Classical Composer reacts to The ROLLING STONES: GIMME SHELTER | The Daily Doug (Episode 856)
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In this #masterpiecefriday edition of #thedailydoug, I'm making a quick return to the Rolling Stones. It was just a few weeks ago that I reacted to their music for the first time, and I wanted to get back to their music today. So, we're listening to the original studio release of Gimme Shelter as well as a live performance of the song from 2012. It's a great track with timely (and timeless) lyrics. I hope you enjoy!
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Have you ever seen the film "Twenty Feet From Stardom"? You'd love it. Both Merry and Lisa appear in the film. It's about the unsung backup singers in the history of rock
That's what I came here to say. AMAZING vocalists who, after a shot in the spotlight, decided to do their job in the shadows. Just like the studio musicians in the Wrecking Crew and Muscle Shoals.
"Moonlight Mile" is a Stones classic, moody and melancholic, with Paul Buckmaster's strings building the song to pack an emotional wallop.
The 'some piano' you referred to is the great Nicky Hopkins. His work is literally everywhere..
Yeah, Nicky was so integral to the Stones sound from 1967 to 1974. He was more or less a defacto member. Their evolution as a band really starts with him.
You have to wonder how much input Nicky actually had on their songs.
The Stones had some wonderful piano parts credited to non-pianists.
@@george474747 Ian Stewart and Jack Nietzsche were the other Stones' pianists. It was necessary for them to be non credited when you have Brian "playing the piano" on TV, for example on "Let's Spend The Night Together".
Yes , this is a masterpiece. The Stones have a few of those :) One of those is You Can’t Always Get What You Want. Studio version complete with the choir… definitely deserves to be on your masterpiece Friday .
💯 the entire Let it Bleed Album is a masterpiece.
@@simontemplar3359 yup . That it is .
The way it was played during the starting scenes of "The Big Chill" was fantastic.
@@T-bone1950for me it’s the way they build and build then it goes off into the stratosphere… same as Midnight Rambler. Absolute magic . I’ve seen them do this live 3 or 4 times and it’s great but IMO that choir is what makes the song brilliant.
@@colleentrygg7376 👍
Chills everytime I hear Merry Clayton sing that solo part.
Her cover of the song, ie with her singing lead rather than Jagger, is staggeringly good. Arguably better than the original - it's said that even KR said he considered it 'definitive'.
Love at the 7:42 when her voice breaks on Murder, you can here Jagger go "Yeah" in the mix. Apparently she was called in at the last moment and told to improvise. So cool.
Does not matter how many times I have heard this song but that part gets me every single time, shivers, goosebumps, almost tears.
Called in last minute nine months pregnant, no less, and told to improvise. Still cool.
When I saw Lisa for the first time, before we had UA-cam, less than 6 feet in front of me I was mesmerised by her presence and her voice. Still my fav singer . EVER!
What an amazing recording.Young American men were being shipped out to die in Vietnam. What an amazing intro to this song. The guitar looks simple because Keith is playing a guitar tat is tuned to an open chord. This song makes me wanna STRUT.
Keith uses an open tuning on many of the Stones songs beginning in this era, primarily open G, but he has used open E, which i believe is what he uses on this tune. That allows him to be able to appear "casual" with his fingerings, while integrating a ton of interesting "complexity" into the figures that he plays.
Open E it is….👌
The intro to this is total gold and the there's no let up in quality.
RE: the mood of it, it's like fiddling whilst Rome burns. Sometimes the situation is so wildly egregious you laugh in shock. It's like the danse of madmen.
Thanks a bunch for taking the time to cover this too. I'd voted for this one. Tremendous song!
The Stones started in 1962. They are still rocking 62 years later
fun fact: Merry Clayton got her name because she was born on Christmas Day.
The giro (quiro) is the ratchet-sounding gourd played by scraping a stick across the ridges carved into the gourd. It's quite popular in Latin music.
This is an iconic song! I still get chills every time I hear it.😮
There’s some great singing from Merry Clayton on the soundtrack to the movie Performance. The arrangements were supervised by Jack Nitzsche and there are contributions from Mick Jagger (who also starred in the film), Ry Cooder, Randy Newman and several others.
Factoid: this was originally going to be a Keith lead vocal, and there are bootlegs of this completed backing track with Keith on lead with Merry (ref bootleg "Beggars Breakfast"). Mick wanted the lead vocal, and Keith gave it to him. Keith will do anything for the betterment of the song and knew that Jagger could deliver a better performance than him (he also gave the song Angie to Mick, which was solely written by Keith). Mick was originally going to sing lead on You've Got the Silver and they swapped songs to give Keith his lead vocal on the Let It Bleed album.
There's a version of Midnight Rambler from 1971 at the Marquee club you should check out because of how they play with time. Not something you really get in classical music
Listen to "Midnight Rambler" live in Havana 2016.
My favorite Stones song ever.
Agreed! I’ve got it as the ringtone on my phone.
as Frank Zappa said "music is the only religion that delivers the goods"
Sympathy fo r the devil, cant you hear me knockin, she's a rainbow, angie, let it bleed, jumpin jack flash, honky tonk women, rip this joint, there are SOoooo many great Stones tunes!
As a guitarist - I can tell you Keiths intro (and beyond) is like an archetype piece of music that people are still tryin to get right. the notes are one thing but the tone and feel are something unique. In the verses he's playing 5 chords - as in chords without a 3 just 1 and 5 so I guess theyre neither major nor minor - or both.
The tremolo guitars, piano and fuzzy overdrive of the original recording make for a uncomparable uneasy atmosphere nearly impossible to reproduce
But what they do live with it (for decades!) reaches an at least similar effect
I’ve always loved how, at the end of the song, they totally flip the lyrics. They say “Love is just a Kiss away!” So profound!
With Merry Clayton on vocals. Lisa Fisher in the live video. I've been a fan since 1964.
That's impressive. I am fans of many bands that I was there "in the beginning", but for 10, 15 years. Not 60! 👏🏼 Did you ever have any of their early singles?
@@jackolson8775 Not 45's that I recall, although I misplaced my collection. I've been a fan since '64 but didn't see them live until '72 and many times since..
Its the greatest rock n roll song ever made, it will never age or sound dated
"Jumpin' Jack Flash" would be my choice for your next one. One of the Stones most iconic songs.
One of my most favourite tunes ever!!
Once again: "Beggars Banquet", "Let It Bleed", "Sticky Fingers" and "Exile on Main St" are 4 essential albums in a row (1968-1972), not only for the Stones, but also in Rock history. There's a lot more great stuff, but this phase was the peak. As of your reactions, only my opinion, sometimes a little less talking during the song would help yourself to not miss important moments (in this case, e.g., that the lyrics change from "war is just a shot away" to "love is just a kiss away". I think it would be better to figure out whether it's major or minor (or at least talk about it) after the song has ended. Just my opinion, always enjoying your videos. The Rolling Stones have been around for MORE than 60 years. The song that started after the live version is "Tumbling Dice" from "Exile on Main St" - it may very well be one for you to analyse!
Great reaction to a great song. For an album, I'd vote for "Sticky Fingers", or for a song, "Can't You Hear Me Knocking", a straight rocker with a Latin-jazzy end jam.
There was a deeper musicality and commitment to musicianship during this period, partly due to Mick Taylor. They also had to keep up with the expanding horizons of rock in the early '70s. It wasn't until the post-punk '80s the Stones settled into a formulistic decline.
I like simplicity like this, but I also like complexity in all kinds of music. The Stones make simple music, Yes makes complex music. There's room for both, just as there's room for both Bach and complex counterpoint and the simpler (by comparison) style galante and classic era that came later. I like it all. I used to think more complex music is better, more cerebral, but as I matured I've come to realize simpler doesn't mean easier.
Well said! Despite its simplicity, I do find there's a different type of complexity at play here, namely the recording process. Like many Stones songs in the Jimmy Miller era, there are tons of intricate layering and effects (here Keef uses the tremolo effect brilliantly) to achieve a distinct sound that isn't even replicable live
I always believed Charlie Watts was the backbone of this band. Very underrated drummer, rip Charlie
If you want to hear a truly interesting, compelling, and powerful version of this tune, check out Keith Richards' own version with the Xpensive Winos, from the 1994 tour. THAT is epic!
Im REALLY looking forward to you hitting up Sympathy for the devil :) I think its structurally pretty different to most of their songs.
I lived on Maui for three years, 1976 -1979. On my last day I was at Kaanapali Airport Bar and I was invited to perform. Guess which song I did and yes, I howled Mary Clayton's part.
Happy to see you reacting to this one and doing more Stones, Doug. Mad respect for the Stones but I have to say that the original studio recording is as powerful as it is due to, in no small part, to Merry Clayton's vocals. So powerful. If you haven't already, you should listen to them in isolation to get a sense of just how incredible her performance is. ua-cam.com/video/ChONufP0FEs/v-deo.htmlsi=4l3n_fR6ZDHVZMVw
The live version on the Bridges to Babylon tour with Lisa is just mind blowing.
TOM TOM TOM CRASH!!!!
Love it.
The Stones had some great albums, the ones I always liked best are: Begger's Banquet, Let it Bleed, Sticky Fingers, Exile on Main Street. And then a few after that: Goats Head Soup, It's Only Rock and Roll, Black and Blue, Some Girls. Those are all top notch albums. I think probably my favorite is Exile on Main Street, because they seem to be reaching out beyond the boundaries on that one.
This has always been my favourite Stone's tune. My favourite cover of it was at the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame performance with U2, Mick J and Fergie. a very special performance. Check it out if you don't know it.
If you haven't see "20 Feet from Stardom", you really ought to. It includes the story of this recording.
Nice review!
I recommend listening to the album “Exile on Main Street” in its entirety. Twenty years ago I listened to the whole thing and I was in tears by the end; it was beautiful. Although i knew some of the songs, I was sad not to have heard the entire album years before.
Hey Doug, great reaction. "Gimme Shelter" is the Stones at their peak. It might be better if you stuck to their hits rather than an entire album. And you may want to start chronologically to experience their musical progression.
You could look at their early success when they started writing their own songs like "Satisfaction" or "Get Off of My Cloud." Then dip into their psychedelic period with songs like "Ruby Tuesday" and "2000 Light Years From Home." But it's their peak years, from 1968 to 1972 that they scaled Olympian heights with songs like "Street Fighting Man" and "Sympathy for the Devil" that captured the zeitgeist of the times .
My favorite live version of Gimme Shelter is their 1973 bootleg London version which you can find on UA-cam. No female singer on that one, but the Stones are in their absolute prime at this time, and their second guitarist of the time, Mick Taylor, is just amazing on this version.
Doug ! Full album ? Let it Bleed !!!! Otherwise, they started as a "singles" band so going back to the beginning , like you should, won't require full discs. Id start with : Little Red Rooster , All Over Now , Im Free and All Down The Line would make a pretty good introduction. Then , dude....60+ years of GREAT rock n roll !!
There is zero debate. None. The Stones, not Zeppelin, not ACDC, and certainly NOT the Beatles, all 7.5 years, pffft...not Elvis, not Buddy Holly, The Rolling Stones are the greatest RnR band of all time.
They just released one of their best songs in Sweet Sounds of Heaven less than a year ago, they've released 31 studio albums, not including live albums & compilations. Mick Jagger & Kieth Richards , The Glimmer Twins are the Archetypes for what rock stars look like, act like and perform like. ...and even their logo is iconic.
Its the Stones, baby. Its NEVER been anyone else but The Rolling Fn Stones !
Thank you for doing this one…. possibly my favorite Stones piece…
🔥🤘
There’s a charity album from the 80s(?) called Gimme Shelter (for the charity Shelter, a homeless charity organisation) where several bands all covered this song in their own way. My personal favourite is the version by The Sisters of Mercy which was originally released as one of the b-side tracks on one of their early ep’s
They were relatively unknown in main stream music until the song "Monster" which was from the Awake album released in 2003. That got them some major airplay on secular radio channels and the rest is history. Other great songs are Saviour, Comatose, Hero, Rise and Reach just to name a few.
Now that I'm old per say I was so blessed to grow up with this music of the mid sixties and the seventies.
for song....do Fingerprint File. It was sped up to fit on the vinyl so you can compare both. Original (bootleg) is on youtube.
The best rock and roll song ever...according to me. Drumming by my distant cousin Charlie.
As an undergrad in Canada when this song came out, it surprised me that a British band was so outspoken during the Vietnam War. After all, the UK was not involved, and it was Canada that was the refuge for Americans avoiding the draft. Then, a friend from Wales explained that British antipathy towards American involvement in SE Asia was based on the hypocrisy that the US was campaigning against British colonialism while boosting its own imperialist aims in Vietnam.
Another early Stones hit is (I can't get no) Satisfaction - that will be a good one to review!!
An interesting thing about Charlie Watts is that he had no problems working with Jimmy Miller's ideas to the point that Jimmy is the drummer on a number of tracks.
The Stones used to experiment by playing songs in varying grooves to fibd out sounds best. If Charlie was ever at a loss for ideas sometimes Jimmy would get on the kit to show Charlie how to play it. As often as not Charlie would let Jimmy record the drum part he came up with.
Excellent!
Sad story. Merry was called late at night to come down to the studio. 😢 Her husband asked her to say no because she was pregnant .
Shortly after the session she had a miscarriage.
Early Stones are the best Stones
This album is absolutely their best!
This is a 1998 version of Bridges to Babylon tour
Yep, that live performance doesn't look 2012 at all.
I really thought you were going to mention that this recording session was very likely the cause of Merry's miscarriage, the very next day. Also, I've paused the video so I haven't seen it yet, but I hope you notice how much her voice cracks on her last MURDER! She was working so hard. She even offered to redo it again, but they left it imperfectly perfect
That cracking in her voice is so absolutely poignant in this tune. Now that I've learned her story, it will give me chills every time I hear it.
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Interesting though how Merry herself do not cast any blame on the Stones or that night. She even recorded her own version of 'Gimme Shelter' for her debut album in 1970, and has always been gracious to the Stones through the years. But yeah, juicy rumours will never die, alas.
I would recommend Midnight Rambler, particularly the live version from Get Yer Ya Yas Out. That song also has a very interesting story behind it. but I love it most because of the great blues jamming on it and the theatrics that go with it.
I'M AFRAID YOU DIDN'T PAY ANY ATTENTION TO MERRY CLAYTON'S SCREAMING "MURDER" !!!
He also missed the switch to "love is just a kiss away", but his attention was elsewhere, on the instrumental components.
This is so great! Some Girls and Let It Bleed would be lovely subjects!
WooHooooo!!!🎉🎸🔥🙋♀️🙌
Tumbling Dice is another Stones track with awesome backing vocals.
From this album, you should hear You Can't Always Get What You Want. You'll be glad you did.
Her singing is fantastic!
I'd love to hear your take on "Satisfaction" because the part of the song that functions musically like a verse has words that don't change. The part where the words change functions musically more like a chorus
This is undoubtably one of the all-time greats in Rock. That said, I'll be honest, I'm not a Stones fan, per se. But they have several great songs, and this... this one is transcendent. It's powerful, and it's socially aware and relevant. The other one that is undeniable from the Stones? Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo (Heartbreaker). Please do that one too! Great choice, Daily Doug fans!
Agree. "Paint it black" a close second in my opinion.
M favorite Stones song ever. So perfect for its time. Just before their infamous Altmont Concert here in the San Francisco Bay Area in December. Also the story of Merry Clayton’s miscarriage soon after the late night session recording the vocals.
One of the top five Stonée´s best songs.
Alright Doug!!! Alltime great Stones song. Mary is phenomenal!!!
There is great footage maybe from a movie about the stones making sympathy for the devil. You can see them creating the song that when they start the process is way different than the final product. Might be a good video to do.
My local cinema plays that clip before every show. They used to be Olympic studios where it was recorded and filmed, and are proud of the heritage. Their sound system was also designed by the recording engineers who worked there.
@@paulqueripel3493 awesome!!
React to Sticky Fingers! It's my favourite Stones Album
Seconded. I'll go as far as saying it's their best.
Keith's guitar is tuned in G .. 5 strings which i now see others mentioned
I think Doug would enjoy the song She's a Rainbow, which is very Beatle like from the mid 60s. For albums, I recommend Sticky Fingers and Exile on Main Street. Again the Stones at their absolute prime.
Fun facts about this tune:
1. It's major/minor 'cos Kieth did it in open E and just one-finger barred the C#, the other chords are B, A and E (which is E major and shouldn't have an F in it). He gets away with that 'cos of the heavy trem obfuscating the F to some extent, 'cos he uses a lot of suspensions especially on the C#, and when he gets down on that C# in the chorus he tends to just play the bottom three strings as a power chord.
2. Nobody can play this song like the original record, not even Kieth. Part of the reason is he used a rare and short lived amp for this cut, a Triumph I believe, which had a built in trem with it's own unique sound which is not really replicable. The other reason of course is that nobody can play rhythm guitar like Kieth period. You just can't, it's voodoo. Even Kieth can't, these classic Stones records where recorded live together in the studio and Kieth's parts represent a moment in time of peak creativity and feel. The Stones used to use the first live take that didn't have a serious mistake in it deliberately to catch that moment in time (often times the second or third take I believe). This one turned out to be a pretty big moment in time. Kieth certainly got Mary Clayton off on one with it as we can all now hear.
3. Together with YCAGWYW this song represents the last time Kieth used Open E tuning. Shortly after recording this during the Let it Bleed sessions Ry Cooder dropped by and showed him Open G using a riff that Kieth immediately adapted (*cough* shamelessly stole) to create the Honky Tonk Women riff. After that he switched to Open G exclusively when he wasn't in Standard and since he can't transpose this song to Open G (on account of the of the crucial low E needed for the chorus part) Kieth transposed the song to standard tuning and that's how he's played it live ever since and why the concert versions sound different to the original record.
I adore this song ❤
Minor, down a step, major, down a step, major, back up the ladder. Suspended 4s thrown in on the major chords.
Whenever I hear Merry cut loose on this song... I just lose it... knowing of the tragedy...
I love the closing theme.
The best RS song on the best RS album. And they have a lot of great albums and songs.
Check out all albums with Mick Taylor on guitar. He put a shot of genius in the Stones and a lot of radio airplay ...
The Jimmy Miller trademark was to add shakers or tambourine at the solo or right after
Please watch the 1972 live version if you want “more soloing.” Any of the live versions from the 1972 and 1973 Tours will be, musically, far more dynamic and appealing. Mick Taylor, their primary lead guitarist then, was a virtuoso and took the track to the stratosphere.
Wish i could have seen Charlie live
This is the stones at their best and lisa makes it perfect
Best days with Mick Taylor playing the AX
Mick Taylor did not play on or have anything to do with “Gimme Shelter,” but the live versions with him on the 1972-73 Tours are phenomenal.
They have new music that rocks also with guests. Like Paul McCartney. Elton John Lady Ga ga Stevie Wonder. And Bill Wyman plays on a tune with Charlie Watts.
"You Can’t Always Get What You Want", "Monkey Man" and "Sympathy for the Devil" are my favorite Stones songs you haven't hit. You should really appreciate the first one I mentioned with your background. The second is one of the best rockers ever and the last shows by the lyrics that rock isn't always best when shallow (first song, too.)
War song masterpiece
Doug: "I want Micks Pants"
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Oh, I would love to see your reaction to Bloodywood, a self-made Indian Folk Metal band with outstanding lyrics (Dana Dan, Aaj).
Great review! A pity though that you didn't choose the Paradiso version from the Totally Stripped. That version is not only a great version but the ultimate version of this song! On that Lisa burn the building down and the band is on fire on that one!
where to go next with the Stones, i reckon you should do one of their really early blues covers like Come on, album wise theyve done so so many, personally i'd leave the first few, they are just albums of covers, start with Aftermath (1966) thats their first which features mostly their own songs, maybe then jump to Exile on main street, then do one of the late 70s, early 80s ones like emotional rescue or Tattoo you.
Little Red Rooster!
I wish you would have listened to a Mick Taylor version as he is the reason why I still play guitar. I would love some insight into how he does what he does as he is far superior to all the other members in terms of musicianship, and I think all of the Stones would agree with that statement.
Check out the documentary Gimme Shelter.
An all time great movie with Melvin Belli, the Jefferson Airplane, and Hells Angels.
A chronicle about the end of the Woodstock generation, passing almost as quickly as the Summer of Love ❤🎉❤😊
You managed to step on the climax of the song with some geeky nonsense.
Do you really think the guy hasn't heard “Gimme Shelter” a bunch of times throughout his life?