@@itsentdev At no point was this comment meant to be giving advice, I just stated that the winning strategy for me, personally, was that realization, and I am free to share my experiences. But if you really want an advice, I suggest you work on your sense of rhythm/timing, as it seems you're having issues with it. I recommend ADOFAI
I must tell you something (whispers) if you’re on keyboard you can change confirm to L and hold enter while spamming L to essentially have a big shot minigun
Something that helped me in this fight was grinding to high TP off of the first heart attack. The pattern makes the bullets easy to graze, and it lasts a long time if you don’t destroy the heart. Additionally, if you just shoot out the mouth in the face attack, you can pretty easily dodge the nose and eye while grinding TP from it.
Super Helpful, i had the most trouble with the "bouncing pipis" attack and your tip worked flawlessly, so did all the others. It took me almost 2 years to beat Jevil, but this time it took me three tries!
Here’s a tip that a lot of people miss for the one attack with the spamton head with the phone hands, if you fire one big shot followed by several normal shots at the head, the head will be shot back by a HUGE amount for some reason. Try it out yourself if you don’t believe me, it makes it so that you have way more space
Some personal tips that helped me beat the boss 1. Conserve up to at least 50 tp before using an X slash, this ensures that even if the next attack hits you particularly hard you'll still have enough tp for fried pipis 2. Make sure to equip the bouncing blade. While I think there's one other stronger weapon kris can get in ch2, the bouncing blade's mix of decent damage and added defense definitely makes it a must have for the snowgrave version of this boss 3. During the face attack it's usually ideal to take out the mouth first, then the eyes, but keep the nose. Leaving only the nose allows for fairly easy tp gain, and the attacks stay relatively the same whereas if you kill the eyes last their attacks become slightly harder to dodge Lastly, I think the broken heart attack is actually called something like the wire heart attack
Also one last thing, due to a recent patch you probably shouldn't use the spamshot unless if you're looking for a challenge. Using it now will cause spamton to become enraged making him deal more damage, his attacks overall take longer and more difficult to dodge, and the boss becoming generally tougher
Well done on the teamwork! Doing it solo is so awkward, I have to tap the arrow keys with my pinky haha. I guess you could also just rebind the keys on your keyboard if they are programmable.
For the Moai attack, it's possible to destroy 2 parts and to leave the last one alive : If you destroy all 3, you'll get a "free" time the next time the pattern appears, then the next one will have all 3 parts coming back full HP. Meanwhile, if you leave 1 alive, it will have tougher versions of its pattern to attack you BUT the 2 others will never respawn until the end of the fight !
TIME STAMP FOR THE VIDEO 0:23 ATTACK OF THE HEADS 1:42 MOVING OBSTACLES 2:53 BROKEN HEART 3:52 BOUNCING PIPIS 4:46 SPIDER PHONE 5:50 MOAI ATTACK 6:50 SPAMTON RECEIVING A CALL 7:06 SPAMTON FIREWORK ATTACK 7:28 SPAMTONS FINAL ATTACK I was writing this when my friend is struggling so I sent her this and wrote the time stamp for her lmao
Just letting people know that I didn't expect this fight so I had the weakest armor and weakest weapon and my items were nothing but seedy bagels and I'm not a gamer but I got this game because I loved watching people play Undertale and I beat this fight after a day of trying so if I can you can. You got this!
my advice for the heart chain attack (only the one big one not the one with one big and two small hearts) is don’t attack it, and get close to the diamonds for A LOT of free tp as the attack goes way longer if you don’t destroy the heart. also [for the snowgrave spamton fight] if you defend for the first three moves up until the heart chain, you’ll have full tp no problem.
I finally managed to beat this boss... my god it was tough! But I found that farming for tp as early in the fight as possible helps. Then use the tp to use that powerful slash attack and try to use items instead for healing if you can. Don't bother focusing on using the fight command, its really weak. I think the biggest reason why I won though was luck. And I guess you do naturally get used to the boss's attack patterns.
I don't know if someone has mentioned this but the best weapon for Kris is the Mechasword it gives Kris 18 attack stat in total if you do x slash with Kris it will do 540 damege
2:25 don’t do this: instead destroy 1 lane of heads with normal shots and go thru that for more TP MechaAxe from sweet capn cakes shop is in my opinion the best weapon, And pink ribbon + glow wrist for armour. This has 69 likes now NO ONE ELSE LIKE PLEASE
I beat Spamton Neo on my first try because I watched this, also that teacup thing took like 3 attempts versus the actual fight taking only one attempt.
What people don't understand is it isn't a surefire strategy, it's just the only way you can possibly beat it. Because of the random nature of a lot of the attacks, you WILL lose constantly no matter how hard you try. I'm not saying give up, I'm saying you're gonna be there for a while so get comfy
THANK GOD YOU PUT THIS OUT!!! I managed to beat Spamton after countless attempts the first time after i watched this! stress was literally choking me im so glad you gave pointers on when the fights about to end or i'd have cried
I haven't defeated him yet but I also like to use the tensionbit in the beginning of the fight! It basically lets me use one x-slash for free Update: I beat him today (one day later) on my 5th try and the tensionbit totally saved me, idk if I would've survived another turn haha
fun fact : if you re align your confirm button to L and your movement controls to wasd you can big shot twice rapidly if you charge L and Enter in a pattern, Hold down L and release to realese a big shot, while you release L hold down enter and keep doing it and you can spam spamton with big shots
For anyone on switch, I learned that while you hold A for a big shot and you can press ZL at the same time for regular shots in between. I know this because I’m stuck on switch and it sucks. Good luck for you switch players Edit: yes I was stupid enough to forget there’s other consoles this should work for it the same way
I'm surprised that these attacks actually have names. I've been writing them down while fighting spamton and they're all like: Shooting head Wall head Head snek Pipis bomb Crawling arms (big shot) Big face Head snek Shooting head (worse) Big face
A tip from me: In this fight, Take advantage of defending and bullet grazing; doing these both will get you more TP faster. I’d recommend the pink ribbon included in your armor, this makes it easier to bullet graze by increasing the area. Use the Mecha-saber as your weapon, so you have 18 ATK.
Spamton Neo on the rollercoaster is easy, because of your many options. If you all snap wires, you can deplete 7% each round. Which could mean you could end the round in only 15 rounds. On Snowgrave, you’re alone, and it is harder to heal. You can only deal a little damage, unless you gain a lot of TP and X-Slash. This depletes 8% of his HP.
Fun fact: In the normal spamton fight during the pacifist route when you meet him, the F1 trick works too. It's just that most new players think its a trap.
I actually also have a tip don't use the physical damage thing until you have at least 51% tp just in case if you need major healing use the fried pimpis
One tip for the face attack, don't leave the eyes till last because they just shoot a huge rally of lasers that are hard to dodge leaving anything else last will not have any penalty also attack the nose first nose is so annoying
These bosses are so fun because the more I try the earlier attacks seem so much easier or slower. I'm trying to do a no hit spamton isn't too difficult but the thing I'm seriously struggling with is the mouth attack thing and my strat is to destroy the nose first then going for the eye because the mouth isn't too bad to dodge once you get enough experience. "spider phone" isn't too difficult once you do it a few times and learn the patterns. I'm a Playstation player so I can't enjoy the benefits of unlimited big shots
Thank you so much for the guide! I did the Pacifist run, but nevertheless all your tips helped me to beat him in one run after so much fails by my own brain juice lol.
The mouth bubbles tend to fly under your soul on the first attack, in front of your soul as you tap backwards, and then it tends to attack in a spread if the lips aren't destroyed yet. If you follow the dodging tips I provide and stay on your toes, it should make the pattern easier to deal with until you destroy the lips, but there is no avoiding that annoying rng-like aspect of it. If you let the lips attack 4-ish times in a row, you're probably in for a bit of a hard time, so try to keep the pace of your big shots up to destroy them before then. Dodging the other two attacks is a piece of cake in comparison.
@silverv2964 it's very hard to dodge on the switch, heck we don't even have multi big shot. And it's like the hardest version of the game. They should have given us at least 3 or 2 free heals
Now that I've beaten this spamton no damage I've decided to come back here to share some tips in case somebody wants to do something similar. The first two are the same as in the video but maybe don't use a big shot you only need to shoot 3 of the 6 heads and you can also get the tp from it with is important. Use x slash whenever you can here and you can kill spmaton before he has the chance to do the worst attack spider phone phase 2. The first heart attack its better to not attack the heart at all because the pattern is simple wherever the heart is it will always shoot 3 projectiles straight and 3 up diagonally and 3 down diagonally. This is a good thing because it's incredibly easy to dodge and the attack lasts a long time if you don't destroy the heart so you can farm loads of tp here (on my best attempt i was able to get 50% before the pipis attack) witch is important because you can use more x slashes. For the "moai" attack I personally recommend taking out the nose and then the eyes. You can do this in the sake turn if you are fast enough and it takes 4 big shots to destroy one so sense the attack already starts you out in the middle you c immediately charge up your big shot and count how many times you shot. If you go fast enough you can skip the nose attack altogether because you already destroyed it. For spamtons final attack I found that going up and down might be pointless because going in the middle school makes it so none of them hits you (I found this in one of my attempts but it could be false sense I didn't have the opportunity to test it again) the hit box is smaller then it looks here. The faster heart attacks and especially the triple heart attacks I would recommend focusing more on dodging if you are planning to do a no hit spamton and judt spamming big shots until you hit the heart enough. It looks difficult because there are so any attacks on the screen but it's not difficult at all to dodge once you get a feel for it. Once you learn these attacks defeating spamton becomes simple (on snowgrave spamton it took me 3 attempts to defeat him because of all my practice in no hit basement spamton neo witch is actually harder then snowgrave spamton)
Personally suggest just attacking on destroying the mouth. Saw this when watching Shay fight spamton. Cuz eyes and nose are both linear attacks it gives ton of tp spam.
without knowing how to dodge properly, i feel like this fight might be harder with the big shot glitch than without.i did beat it with the glitch, but i got really lucky
I really didn't think this would work whatsoever with how hard spamton neo is but oh my god I watched this vid and I immediately beat him thank you oh so much
Fun Fact: when I was beating Snowgrave NEO (Which I succeeded in yay go me), I was being lazy and enraging him for like 15 attempts and I figured out that when the spider phone attack comes, if he's enraged, it will ALWAYS be replaced with sliding phones variant.
My strategy is to equip the MechaSaber (get it from the Sweet, Cap, and K_K's shop) fill your [ inventorium ] with CD Bagels and 1 TensionBit. Use TensionBit on the first turn. Do not destroy the heart in the first phase of the attack for free TP, and use X-Slash the moment I have enough TP and health.
I somehow got no hits on the spider phone attack and the bouncing heart attack is pretty easy to dodge and attack (except the tiny bullets) also use the giant shot for the spider phone which pushes it back a bit more
Extra tip: even if a free turn is good, the moai attack is better if you only destroy the mouth, since you can farm TP, which means its a free X slash or fried pipis
Damn I wish I found this video before I could beat spamton. I managed to teach myself and now I rarely ever die on the snowgrave route and the normal routes fights
The run shown here is the snowgrave route and in that route you'll only see Kris and Noone else thus the fight is harder. Now yoy can do some of the steps here but for me the boss is much more easier with Susie and ralsei
I literally dodged the first spider head attack without taking damage on my first try, even though I was distracted and just moving in random directions.
I only learned from this video about the Z + C tip. I know one better. The upsides are it's harder unless you temporarily rebind your keyboard, however he won't get mad. So more clicking, but he doesn't hit as hard. If you press Z + Enter and spam Enter you can bigshot spam. This is really good for the pipi's, heart, phone, and especially moai. Hope this helped, and hope you have/had a good day!
in phase one of spider arms . ignore the up and down balls and stay in the middle. and then when there is a middle ball just quickly go up or down then go back to the middle
Dude thanks, i was having a lot of trouble with spamton neo, then i heard your tips and i passed it at the second try (before hearing them i did like 14 tries and died in all of them) i was having the most of trouble in the phone attacks, i literally could do a no hit in the rest of the fight
@@ProdCharles I passed it on the geno run a few hours ago (when I wrote the comment it was the first time for me playing deltarune chapter 2 and spamton neo and now I passed it on genocide, thanks for the tips anyways! They also helped me in the geno run
I've went back and forth on "this video makes the boss look actually possible why am I struggling so much" and "seriously fuck this how is this boss as hard/harder than Sans?!" but I think I'm settling on the latter, you can't dodge when the screen is MADE OF BULLETS.
I dunno if it's as hard as Sans, but I understand your frustration completely. The phone spider attack was the most annoying one for me for this reason
Tip I Used In My Failed Attempts: In Phase 1 Of Moving Obstacles, When They Want You To Use The Big Shot (Two Rows Of Heads), Fire Small Shots Repeatedly On Either The Top Or Bottom Row, Not Both, So You Can Basically Get Free TP From Grazing - TP Can Be Very Important In This Fight.
During moving obstacles I recommend to not use the big shot against the 2x3 head wall. Use your normal shots to clear out one row and go through it to gain easy tp.
When I was finishing the game, that music that plays at Toriels house bugged then it played while the whole ending That last scene with Kris was like "super duper happy" with that music XD
I have tried and tried the Spamton NEO fight in the basement for many times and still I have never beaten it, and the more you get into the fight the harder the attacks get.
One thing that helped me with this boss is thatyou can sometimes use the bombs to clear out some heads (with a little bit of luck you can even clear out 2 rows of the heads) oh and I usually use minishots after the 3 head towers, I just find it easier than to sit and charge a big shot (I am a nintendo switch player so I think I get a little bit of aim assist but idk) other than that, every tactic in this video works flawlessly
This is a really cool video! Good guide, you covered all the good points. Extra clarification: The f1 trick only works once in both spamton neo fights
Thank you! I had a feeling but didn't want to spread misinformation in case I just haven't had a long enough battle
@@ProdCharles Keep up the great content 👍
How do you use it in cobtriller
@@SeniorSatoru Try R3?
If you were to play Deltarune chapter 2 on Nintendo switch how do you do infinite big shot
for me the winning strategy was to simply realize that it only takes a second to charge a big shot, not 10 decades
LowTierGod vs Spamton NEO
BBC vs big shot
no offense but this is the worst advice I've seen yet. 70% of my deaths came from trying to fire a big shot slightly too soon
@@itsentdev At no point was this comment meant to be giving advice, I just stated that the winning strategy for me, personally, was that realization, and I am free to share my experiences. But if you really want an advice, I suggest you work on your sense of rhythm/timing, as it seems you're having issues with it. I recommend ADOFAI
I must tell you something (whispers) if you’re on keyboard you can change confirm to L and hold enter while spamming L to essentially have a big shot minigun
Something that helped me in this fight was grinding to high TP off of the first heart attack. The pattern makes the bullets easy to graze, and it lasts a long time if you don’t destroy the heart. Additionally, if you just shoot out the mouth in the face attack, you can pretty easily dodge the nose and eye while grinding TP from it.
Love the concept of TP grinding. Very effective in general for the easier phase 1 patterns.
@@ProdCharles yeah same its a clever mechanic for these type of games
I just used a tension thing that gave 32 tp allowing me to quickly get a couple x slashes off making me beat him 2nd try on snow grave
Pipis
THANK YOU
Super Helpful, i had the most trouble with the "bouncing pipis" attack and your tip worked flawlessly, so did all the others. It took me almost 2 years to beat Jevil, but this time it took me three tries!
Well done! So glad I could help you out. I also struggled with Jevil - that fight was much tougher than Spamton imo
@@ProdCharles I can’t beat spamton once, yet have nearly done a jevil no hit…..
@@inebu-inebulis Same lol I did jevil without much trouble yet I'm struggling tons on spamton neo
I have trouble with the wifi attack
Excuse me... TWO YEARS???
I took like 1 week and still thought that was a lot
Here’s a tip that a lot of people miss for the one attack with the spamton head with the phone hands, if you fire one big shot followed by several normal shots at the head, the head will be shot back by a HUGE amount for some reason. Try it out yourself if you don’t believe me, it makes it so that you have way more space
1:28 I really like the fact that Spamton just breaks his neck lol
Some personal tips that helped me beat the boss
1. Conserve up to at least 50 tp before using an X slash, this ensures that even if the next attack hits you particularly hard you'll still have enough tp for fried pipis
2. Make sure to equip the bouncing blade. While I think there's one other stronger weapon kris can get in ch2, the bouncing blade's mix of decent damage and added defense definitely makes it a must have for the snowgrave version of this boss
3. During the face attack it's usually ideal to take out the mouth first, then the eyes, but keep the nose. Leaving only the nose allows for fairly easy tp gain, and the attacks stay relatively the same whereas if you kill the eyes last their attacks become slightly harder to dodge
Lastly, I think the broken heart attack is actually called something like the wire heart attack
Also one last thing, due to a recent patch you probably shouldn't use the spamshot unless if you're looking for a challenge. Using it now will cause spamton to become enraged making him deal more damage, his attacks overall take longer and more difficult to dodge, and the boss becoming generally tougher
Just realized I might be the only one who is doing pacifist spamton
@@notevenusingthisanymorelol what about the mechasaber ?
What about the jevilstail if you beat jevil because that’s what I’m using rn
WELL I CANT DO THAT ON THE CONSOLES @notevenusingthisanymorelol
I have a brother... he spammed the charge shot and I dodged. It worked very well lol
Well done on the teamwork! Doing it solo is so awkward, I have to tap the arrow keys with my pinky haha. I guess you could also just rebind the keys on your keyboard if they are programmable.
Nice Teamwork
oh my Im gonna try doing this tactic with my brother. Hopefully i'll pass this time😭😭
I’ve been having my brother help me too. :)
I gotta ask my little sis to hold the Z for me then 😂😂😂
For the Moai attack, it's possible to destroy 2 parts and to leave the last one alive :
If you destroy all 3, you'll get a "free" time the next time the pattern appears, then the next one will have all 3 parts coming back full HP. Meanwhile, if you leave 1 alive, it will have tougher versions of its pattern to attack you BUT the 2 others will never respawn until the end of the fight !
Good for if you're good at dodging the remaining attack!
@@ProdCharles THE EYE ONE SHOULD REMAIN ITS EZ LIKE THE 3RD METTATON HEART ATTACK
@@Xx-Domenico_Entratainment-xX nope. the nose should stay imo since it’s just a free tp grind lol
TIME STAMP FOR THE VIDEO
0:23 ATTACK OF THE HEADS
1:42 MOVING OBSTACLES
2:53 BROKEN HEART
3:52 BOUNCING PIPIS
4:46 SPIDER PHONE
5:50 MOAI ATTACK
6:50 SPAMTON RECEIVING A CALL
7:06 SPAMTON FIREWORK ATTACK
7:28 SPAMTONS FINAL ATTACK
I was writing this when my friend is struggling so I sent her this and wrote the time stamp for her lmao
Just letting people know that I didn't expect this fight so I had the weakest armor and weakest weapon and my items were nothing but seedy bagels and I'm not a gamer but I got this game because I loved watching people play Undertale and I beat this fight after a day of trying so if I can you can. You got this!
I did the same thing with the armor too
my advice for the heart chain attack (only the one big one not the one with one big and two small hearts) is don’t attack it, and get close to the diamonds for A LOT of free tp as the attack goes way longer if you don’t destroy the heart. also [for the snowgrave spamton fight] if you defend for the first three moves up until the heart chain, you’ll have full tp no problem.
No you definetely should attack it, it will make spamtons turn last shorter and give you 2 or 3% more mercy
@@grab8119 yes but if you don't you can get alot of tp as it's very easy to dodge, and if it lasts longer you get more tp out of it
I finally managed to beat this boss... my god it was tough! But I found that farming for tp as early in the fight as possible helps. Then use the tp to use that powerful slash attack and try to use items instead for healing if you can. Don't bother focusing on using the fight command, its really weak. I think the biggest reason why I won though was luck. And I guess you do naturally get used to the boss's attack patterns.
Well done on beating it! TP grinding is really strong in those early patterns.
It doesn't let me use items...
Took me hours to finally complete this
Glad you got to finish it! Have you tried to battle again? The fight feels a bit less intense when you have the motions down.
I just got lucky and did it my first try
So far taking me days.
took me like two or three days, def way harder then the normal version of this boss
What armor did you use? I am using the amber card.
I don't know if someone has mentioned this but the best weapon for Kris is the Mechasword it gives Kris 18 attack stat in total if you do x slash with Kris it will do 540 damege
Is royalpin the best amor?
@@Lil_Deathbringer I think the Jevilstail is better
You can also give kris the jevilstail and ironshackle for even more damage
I try it and kris now have 20 attack!
@@Lil_Deathbringer it's crazy
2:25 don’t do this: instead destroy 1 lane of heads with normal shots and go thru that for more TP
MechaAxe from sweet capn cakes shop is in my opinion the best weapon,
And pink ribbon + glow wrist for armour.
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TP are very important for this fight, they heal you and they make your attack
yes i agree
Isn’t mechaaxe a a susie weapon?
@@kenziebalhatchet3918 no, it works on kris
@@kenziebalhatchet3918 yes it is susie's weapon
I beat Spamton Neo on my first try because I watched this, also that teacup thing took like 3 attempts versus the actual fight taking only one attempt.
What people don't understand is it isn't a surefire strategy, it's just the only way you can possibly beat it. Because of the random nature of a lot of the attacks, you WILL lose constantly no matter how hard you try. I'm not saying give up, I'm saying you're gonna be there for a while so get comfy
THANK GOD YOU PUT THIS OUT!!! I managed to beat Spamton after countless attempts the first time after i watched this! stress was literally choking me im so glad you gave pointers on when the fights about to end or i'd have cried
Really happy for you! Glad I could help.
I haven't defeated him yet but I also like to use the tensionbit in the beginning of the fight! It basically lets me use one x-slash for free
Update: I beat him today (one day later) on my 5th try and the tensionbit totally saved me, idk if I would've survived another turn haha
Congrats on beating it and thanks for sharing your tip!
How do you avoid the attacks coming from the head/moai? There's too much shit on the screen.
@@rampantmutt9119 Like the face attack? Honestly it was one of the hardest for me. I just tried my best dodging and took out the mouth or nose first
@@rampantmutt9119 destroy the mouth leave eyes and nose
@@rampantmutt9119 Genuinely just get good lmao
fun fact : if you re align your confirm button to L and your movement controls to wasd you can big shot twice rapidly if you charge L and Enter in a pattern, Hold down L and release to realese a big shot, while you release L hold down enter and keep doing it and you can spam spamton with big shots
Ehem and how tf am I supposed to do that on a console?
*THANKS SO MUCH FOR THE HELP* because of this… I can FINALLY THROW MY HANDS IN THE AIR AND PARTY
Is He Really Not Gonna Mention That If You Stand Still Only 2 of the wave beams ever go in your path 5:10
For anyone on switch, I learned that while you hold A for a big shot and you can press ZL at the same time for regular shots in between. I know this because I’m stuck on switch and it sucks. Good luck for you switch players
Edit: yes I was stupid enough to forget there’s other consoles this should work for it the same way
This is actually pretty helpful. Thanks!
Is switch easy??
IT HAS BEEN A YEAR AND IM SO GLAD I FOUND THIS THANK YOU ME
@@hajidle Nope it's the hardest version
Been struggling on him for a while now, then found your video and beat him in one go! Thanks so much! :D
This guide was super helpful. Thank you so much!!
I'm surprised that these attacks actually have names. I've been writing them down while fighting spamton and they're all like:
Shooting head
Wall head
Head snek
Pipis bomb
Crawling arms (big shot)
Big face
Head snek
Shooting head (worse)
Big face
Honestly, I just made up the names to make keeping track of attacks in the comments easier. I don't know if there are official names.
prod on the content grind you love to see it
haha thank you!
A tip from me:
In this fight, Take advantage of defending and bullet grazing; doing these both will get you more TP faster.
I’d recommend the pink ribbon included in your armor, this makes it easier to bullet graze by increasing the area. Use the Mecha-saber as your weapon, so you have 18 ATK.
Spamton Neo on the rollercoaster is easy, because of your many options. If you all snap wires, you can deplete 7% each round. Which could mean you could end the round in only 15 rounds. On Snowgrave, you’re alone, and it is harder to heal. You can only deal a little damage, unless you gain a lot of TP and X-Slash. This depletes 8% of his HP.
If you're playing on a switch, press ZL to shoot, it's faster than A
The best Sword is actually not the bouncing blade, it's the Sword you can buy to the cd bagel shop in the beggining of the game
Fun fact: In the normal spamton fight during the pacifist route when you meet him, the F1 trick works too. It's just that most new players think its a trap.
the moai attack in particular is give me a lot of trouble
Same
I found this hard as well, just really focus on killing the eyes and mouth as quickly as possible. The nose is the easiest one to dodge
@@Musikur i prefer just the mouth as eyes and nose are both linear attacks you get tons of tp
This is the first time I've heard anyone pronounce "pipis" that way.
How I won: Using the bullet spam glitch and getting lucky as hell.
I actually also have a tip don't use the physical damage thing until you have at least 51% tp just in case if you need major healing use the fried pimpis
5:22 For some reason, I get the second phase of this attack first for some reason, and I hate it, thanks for this guide (it did helped)
I agree it’s the fucking worst part
One tip for the face attack, don't leave the eyes till last because they just shoot a huge rally of lasers that are hard to dodge leaving anything else last will not have any penalty also attack the nose first nose is so annoying
0:39 THE BIG SHOT
I’ve tried it 10 times so far and I always get killed by the damn face attack specifically the nose
Yeah ikr that's one of the parts after the phone that is just annoying
These bosses are so fun because the more I try the earlier attacks seem so much easier or slower. I'm trying to do a no hit spamton isn't too difficult but the thing I'm seriously struggling with is the mouth attack thing and my strat is to destroy the nose first then going for the eye because the mouth isn't too bad to dodge once you get enough experience. "spider phone" isn't too difficult once you do it a few times and learn the patterns. I'm a Playstation player so I can't enjoy the benefits of unlimited big shots
Im a mobile player , i struggle with spider phone just so much
@@ilikeobbies7442 here's a tip: just keep spamming small bullets then big shots while trying to position yourself away from where the signals shoot
@@ilikeobbies7442 here's a tip: just keep spamming small bullets then big shots while trying to position yourself away from where the signals shoot
@@1x0YTokay well we still should have got that multi big shot attack
oh god, i’m about to fight him and i’m in my pacifist route…oh no
Just got to this fight and finally watched the video. Thanks man, the pepis guide really helped! I didn't even know some of them didn't bounce.
So glad I could help you out! It is a little tough at first. You really have to get used to the speed and chaos of the attacks.
good thing I got deltarune ch. 2 early because the infinite big shot exploit wasn't patched with spamton neo getting mad.
It was a piece of cake back then, yeah haha
The phone attack and the face attack genuinely had me dying bc i don’t focus on not dying
Thank you so much for the guide! I did the Pacifist run, but nevertheless all your tips helped me to beat him in one run after so much fails by my own brain juice lol.
the moai attack is so hard, the mouth feels like pure rng
The mouth bubbles tend to fly under your soul on the first attack, in front of your soul as you tap backwards, and then it tends to attack in a spread if the lips aren't destroyed yet. If you follow the dodging tips I provide and stay on your toes, it should make the pattern easier to deal with until you destroy the lips, but there is no avoiding that annoying rng-like aspect of it. If you let the lips attack 4-ish times in a row, you're probably in for a bit of a hard time, so try to keep the pace of your big shots up to destroy them before then. Dodging the other two attacks is a piece of cake in comparison.
@@ProdCharlesthe hardest ones are the nose
Little advice: Use the first phase of broken heart to charge tp instead of shooting, you'll get like 30
Grinding TP is also very good!
how can i do it?
i play on switch
@@Mackdesu just stay close to the center bullets without getting hit
@silverv2964 it's very hard to dodge on the switch, heck we don't even have multi big shot. And it's like the hardest version of the game. They should have given us at least 3 or 2 free heals
my pocket is like,full of butjuice and spagetticode yet i m still DYING
great guide btw
This video helped me strategize and defeat Spamton after a ton of tries, when I thought I might need to give up. Thanks for this video.
This is very helpful but my adhd riddled mind cannot comprehend such coordination
Now that I've beaten this spamton no damage I've decided to come back here to share some tips in case somebody wants to do something similar. The first two are the same as in the video but maybe don't use a big shot you only need to shoot 3 of the 6 heads and you can also get the tp from it with is important. Use x slash whenever you can here and you can kill spmaton before he has the chance to do the worst attack spider phone phase 2. The first heart attack its better to not attack the heart at all because the pattern is simple wherever the heart is it will always shoot 3 projectiles straight and 3 up diagonally and 3 down diagonally. This is a good thing because it's incredibly easy to dodge and the attack lasts a long time if you don't destroy the heart so you can farm loads of tp here (on my best attempt i was able to get 50% before the pipis attack) witch is important because you can use more x slashes. For the "moai" attack I personally recommend taking out the nose and then the eyes. You can do this in the sake turn if you are fast enough and it takes 4 big shots to destroy one so sense the attack already starts you out in the middle you c immediately charge up your big shot and count how many times you shot. If you go fast enough you can skip the nose attack altogether because you already destroyed it. For spamtons final attack I found that going up and down might be pointless because going in the middle school makes it so none of them hits you (I found this in one of my attempts but it could be false sense I didn't have the opportunity to test it again) the hit box is smaller then it looks here. The faster heart attacks and especially the triple heart attacks I would recommend focusing more on dodging if you are planning to do a no hit spamton and judt spamming big shots until you hit the heart enough. It looks difficult because there are so any attacks on the screen but it's not difficult at all to dodge once you get a feel for it. Once you learn these attacks defeating spamton becomes simple (on snowgrave spamton it took me 3 attempts to defeat him because of all my practice in no hit basement spamton neo witch is actually harder then snowgrave spamton)
This video really helped me out and i was finally able to beat spamton! thank you
Is it possible to end the Spamton fight without Noelle’s help?
Personally suggest just attacking on destroying the mouth. Saw this when watching Shay fight spamton. Cuz eyes and nose are both linear attacks it gives ton of tp spam.
I found that if you steal if you still smells armor then it has a better defense which perfectly fit snow grave
Oh god it's feeling like watching a Sans fight tips all over again
0:23 ATTACK OF THE HEADS
1:42 MOVING OBSTACLES
2:53 BROKEN HEART
3:52 BOUNCING PIPIS
4:46 SPIDER PHONE
5:50 MOAI ATTACK
6:50 SPAMTON RECEIVING A CALL
7:06 SPAMTON FIREWORK ATTACK
7:28 SPAMTONS FINAL ATTACK
Spider phone is the sole reason I still can’t beat chapter 2 snowgrave route
without knowing how to dodge properly, i feel like this fight might be harder with the big shot glitch than without.i did beat it with the glitch, but i got really lucky
Especially since it was updated with longer patterns
I swear the spider part is impossible!
beat him about 5 or 6 tries after watching this, very helpful! his hp is much less than you'd think
I really didn't think this would work whatsoever with how hard spamton neo is but oh my god I watched this vid and I immediately beat him thank you oh so much
Fun Fact: when I was beating Snowgrave NEO (Which I succeeded in yay go me), I was being lazy and enraging him for like 15 attempts and I figured out that when the spider phone attack comes, if he's enraged, it will ALWAYS be replaced with sliding phones variant.
Was that a [big shot] just now?
I’m still struggling to beat him. I always die at the spider attack and the face one
And the fact that they are back to back. GOD
i am doing good, the thing that kills me are the heads from weird angle cuz i cannot hit them
My strategy is to equip the MechaSaber (get it from the Sweet, Cap, and K_K's shop) fill your [ inventorium ] with CD Bagels and 1 TensionBit. Use TensionBit on the first turn. Do not destroy the heart in the first phase of the attack for free TP, and use X-Slash the moment I have enough TP and health.
1:10 The other easiest way is to just spam the shoot button, whenever I try to do a [Big Shot] I die from its eggs
I somehow got no hits on the spider phone attack and the bouncing heart attack is pretty easy to dodge and attack (except the tiny bullets) also use the giant shot for the spider phone which pushes it back a bit more
Extra tip: even if a free turn is good, the moai attack is better if you only destroy the mouth, since you can farm TP, which means its a free X slash or fried pipis
"your first attempts will look like this"
my 1 hour struggle with mettaton ex** :
This is a really fun fight once you start to get the hang of it
This guide helped me beat snowgrave after like a year of trying on and off. Thank you!
Congratulations!
Damn I wish I found this video before I could beat spamton. I managed to teach myself and now I rarely ever die on the snowgrave route and the normal routes fights
Weird, I have Susie and Ralsei with me during this fight. No idea what I did differently.
The run shown here is the snowgrave route and in that route you'll only see Kris and Noone else thus the fight is harder. Now yoy can do some of the steps here but for me the boss is much more easier with Susie and ralsei
I literally dodged the first spider head attack without taking damage on my first try, even though I was distracted and just moving in random directions.
I’m so used to undertale I didn’t know you could charge the shot
I only learned from this video about the Z + C tip.
I know one better. The upsides are it's harder unless you temporarily rebind your keyboard, however he won't get mad. So more clicking, but he doesn't hit as hard.
If you press Z + Enter and spam Enter you can bigshot spam. This is really good for the pipi's, heart, phone, and especially moai.
Hope this helped, and hope you have/had a good day!
You will have to be careful as attacks Do more damage then before
in phase one of spider arms . ignore the up and down balls and stay in the middle. and then when there is a middle ball just quickly go up or down then go back to the middle
Dude thanks, i was having a lot of trouble with spamton neo, then i heard your tips and i passed it at the second try (before hearing them i did like 14 tries and died in all of them) i was having the most of trouble in the phone attacks, i literally could do a no hit in the rest of the fight
Congrats on winning. Glad I helped you out!
@@ProdCharles I passed it on the geno run a few hours ago (when I wrote the comment it was the first time for me playing deltarune chapter 2 and spamton neo and now I passed it on genocide, thanks for the tips anyways! They also helped me in the geno run
I have other tips, if you find yourself bad at aiming, just focus on dodging part, except for attack that you should destroy
I've went back and forth on "this video makes the boss look actually possible why am I struggling so much" and "seriously fuck this how is this boss as hard/harder than Sans?!" but I think I'm settling on the latter, you can't dodge when the screen is MADE OF BULLETS.
I dunno if it's as hard as Sans, but I understand your frustration completely. The phone spider attack was the most annoying one for me for this reason
On the bombs and heads one, when theres the 6 heads in 2 lines destroy only one. U'll get TP by going in that destroyed line
I doubt you are going to see this but I just beat this fight and could not have done it without this video, THANK YOU!
Congratulations!
@@ProdCharles thank you!
Tip I Used In My Failed Attempts: In Phase 1 Of Moving Obstacles, When They Want You To Use The Big Shot (Two Rows Of Heads), Fire Small Shots Repeatedly On Either The Top Or Bottom Row, Not Both, So You Can Basically Get Free TP From Grazing - TP Can Be Very Important In This Fight.
5:50 "the 🗿 attack"
During moving obstacles I recommend to not use the big shot against the 2x3 head wall. Use your normal shots to clear out one row and go through it to gain easy tp.
Hey I did genocide but no snowgrave, why is spamtons shop door locked?
Thank you so much, it’s taken me so long, this helped me a lot to beat him
so far ive died around 128 times on spamton neo, in total. today ive died abt 20 times. this has literally helped me so much ty
In the final attack part 2 you can actually stay in the middle back and nothing hits you
dont use big shots on the coster part because if u spam on the upper spamton head then the bottom one will give u tp for x slash or fried pipis
This makes the attack a little harder, but for flying heads I, I graze in a curved motion so I can do x-slash the very turn after
When I was finishing the game, that music that plays at Toriels house bugged then it played while the whole ending
That last scene with Kris was like "super duper happy" with that music XD
I have tried and tried the Spamton NEO fight in the basement for many times and still I have never beaten it, and the more you get into the fight the harder the attacks get.
2:45 I found it easier to not fire Big shot instead fire many small shots at the heart
Heres another thing for the face attack the mouth than eyes leave the nose because it's free tp and always is the same i think
also! if you want to play easier on deltarune just use the Z button to entrace and X to go back! and C is for inventory
He always overwhelms me in his attacks XD
One thing that helped me with this boss is thatyou can sometimes use the bombs to clear out some heads (with a little bit of luck you can even clear out 2 rows of the heads) oh and I usually use minishots after the 3 head towers, I just find it easier than to sit and charge a big shot (I am a nintendo switch player so I think I get a little bit of aim assist but idk) other than that, every tactic in this video works flawlessly