I never thought about this until now but... did the Goth family just dig up their whole graveyard and rebury the bodies when they moved to Pleasantview?!
@@barborapisingerova271 i mean, depending on when she lived, teen marriages werent that uncommon, she could have been 18 or even 19. i also saw another comment saying she was actually a young adult
Imo the most convincing argument about Lolita Goth comes from AlexPlaysSims, the tumblr user that “solved” Bella’s disappearance - Alexander grew up to be a time traveler, him and his wife (Lolita) traveled back to TS3 (where his name appears as the author of Murder in Pleasantview), the time machine broke and Lolita died trying to repair it (hence death by electrocution), and Alexander buried her in the family graveyard. Explains how she could be a Goth without any known relation to the others, she doesn’t exist in this timeline yet…
It's weird because it's still kind of there. In at least the promotional yearbook photos for High School Years pack, it alludes that Mortimer and Nancy may have been exes and Bella rubs that in with her yearbook quote "I haven't met a blonde who's had more fun than me".
The Goth family also has Minerva Goth whose body is buried in Midnight Hollow. And Alexander Goth allegedly is a time traveler who wrote Murder in Pleasantview and Baron Graff Van Gould.
Hmm connections maybe to Van Gould family too . I mean the goth and landgraab rivalry sounds similar to the Van Gould and wolf as of who founded the town .
Let me tell you, you were talking about Lolita and how she was flirty and mysterious etc. etc. and I remembered about Addams Family Values. We all know the Goths are inspired on them, of course, since the very beginning, and maybe Lolita was a throwback to Debbie, the psychopath who seduced, married and tried to kill Uncle Fester? She *is* buried in the Adams family cemetery, her epitaph reading "Wife & Psycho". So maybe Lolita tried to seduce one of the Goth men for possibly evil reasons (possibly even Gunther) and ended up dying? For me it makes tons of sense.
I really wish sims 4 wasn't an 'alternative universe', it stops the lore dead in its tracks. All these small details about passed family members are really intriguing. Also, when are you doing another cosplay video?
I hope they make an expension pack where we can see more of the original timeline. If the canon has time travel (TS2 Don goes to TS3 timeline) then they can travel between universes. Or they make TS5 fit into the original timeline.
i think the reason why they did an “alternative universe” is cause they’re hella lazy 🤷♀️ instead of giving the people what they want, they half ass it. nothing unusual for sims 4 ofc
@@frozerus Honestly even if they did continue the lore everybody would've just hated it anyways cause every time I've heard a simmer bring up the new households they say they're too generic and lame so why even bother.
@@theninjamaster67 cus they like the Sims 4 are so watered down and boring.😭 They're starting to bring bits and pieces of lore back but it's not working since it's just to try to appeal to the older simmers
@@missbigsteak Yah like I said why bother everyone's just gonna hate what they do anyways cause they always release everything in the buggiest state possible and with as little effort as they can so they may as well just stick to their "kits" and let a better game take it's place once the Sims dies off like Sim City did.
I am convinced Lolita is Alexanders wife from the future. Alexander wanted to solve the mystery of his mothers disappearance so he borrowed a time machine (either from his father or his sister, both are scientist) and went back with his wife to find out what happened. The problem is, the time machine broke and they went too far back. Lolita died from electrocution, as a result, and Alexander was left to write books about his mothers disappearance in order to prevent it.
Nah probably Gunthers or Victors first love and wife. If that would be true Gunther and Cornelia would know of everything going on. I think the theory comes from "Alex plays Sims" and he got debunked by Miss Lore.😄
I remember seeing an article about a guy who married his animated waifu. Literally a 2D anime girl. So, you know, don't give up on your dreams of marrying a fictional character.
Theory: Lolita Goth was a teenager married off to an old member of the Goth family. When she got defiant, they electrocuted her and made it look like an accident
I'd love to see an entire history of Llamas in the Sims they've been around as Easter eggs forever and now with country living where you can own a Llama it feels complete
Even though it's an alternate universe, I like to imagine that the family tree is mostly unchanged. Whenever I have a save where I allow Alexander to age up and have a family of his own, I almost always name his kids Cornelia or Gunther.
I'd personally like to see an entire history of Sims 3 families with crazy lore but not enough for an entire video but put together would. So maybe like the Remingtons from Riverview, Cooks from Bridgeport, The vampires, etc etc
12:26 Actually the intended play order for the scripted events is that you play Don's Household first, then the Goth's, so when you play as Don, Both Cassandra's & Don's Long Term Relationship with each other raises during the night at Don's causing Don to accept the marriage when you play the Goth's if following the scripted events, you also performed a romantic interaction
That is not entirely true, as if you play just the scripted events, yes you are correct about the order but you have to have Cassandra choose the arch meaning she would be the one wanting the wedding and her love for Don is never in question. It is Don's loyalties that are an issue. If you don't do any interaction between Cassandra and Don before clicking the arch then Don will always leave Cassandra at the altar as shown in the cutscene with his shaking hands. If you do even one romantic interaction before that, then, 90)% of the time, they do actually get married.
@@MHruskamusic Yes, that's why I mentioned if you were to be following the scripted events, as the game does guide you towards performing a romantic gesture before getting married, but your right that Don mostly won't accept if they straight up get married immediately after playing
@@AbiRose539 ah yes, I usually had her get married to Darren since he actually loved her and her only so I always forget that they actually prompt the interactions first to secure the wedding.
Since the Agnes & Cornelia connection has come to light, I've liked to believe that, had Agnes been the Crumplebottom relative featured heavily in TS2 (since the Mrs. Crumplebottom there is a distant relative to Agnes), she would've had a HUGE vendetta against Don Lothario. The Crumplebottoms are already known to have it in for flirty sims & yes, her TS3 bio states that even tho she's still close with her sister, she's not that close to her brother-in-law or nephew...but just the same. I think the familial connection of her being Cassandra's great-aunt would give her the perfect excuse to bean Don that much harder with her handbag for leaving Cass at the altar XD
Always love love love the Goth's but people tend to forget that Gunther and Cornelia Goth are in the Sims 1 Unleashed, and they have 2 siamese cats that are very sweet. I don't remember if it added any lore to the game but I loved the old couple so much, probably one of the premades I played with the most in the sims 1.
"What a lovely suburban neighborh-GOTH!" made me WEEP also I cannot wait for that Sims 2 PSP LP, that was my favourite game in the entire franchise for so long!!!
Just to remind something that no one talks about: Actually Don is older than Cassandra because Don was already an adult before Bella disappeared while Cassandra was still a teenager and she was the last that aged up after Mortimer and Alexander ages up. I know that in game she looks older than Don but that could be because she also wore dark makeup and dark clothes so makes totally sense that she will look older.
And Alexander is actually older than the Pleasant twins, as he was born when Cassandra and Mary-Sue were teenagers. But in-game he’s a child while the Pleasant twins are teenagers. Age continuity is a mess in Sims 2 xD
No matter how many times I play, I can never get Don to leave Cassandra at the alter. Even when I make them fight before the wedding they still tie the knot. I love these History Of vids!
@@king_nate_9261 I've done that, and he still left her. I've had to restart my game several times and wanted something new, looked it up, and then did everything I could to get him to leave her at the alter. They even fell out of love and yet he still married her. Lol, I think I have a glitched game.
@@sandalaris Really? huh, that's weird. In my games that's the only way for them to get married, otherwise he always leave her. Maybe it's a random thing
My favorite save on the sims 3 was the one where my sim grew up to marry Mortimer and I didn't know any of the lore then but I'd like to think my sim threw a big wrench in the goth family timeline 😂
I love how the first 3 sims games had this massive lore with all the iconic families and then in the sims 4 it's just like "Oh yeah, you got cheese hair caliente and sure, why not add the goths they where popular with the sims community"
Little sister is currently trick or treating so I’m minding my dog in my room making sure he doesn’t bark at the kids who ring the door bell 😅 Happy hallowe’en everyone!!
@@emerson3669 it’s so funny tho because he doesn’t mind the fireworks at all, he’s literally sleeping through them, but as soon as the door bell rings he goes absolutely mental
12:30 Not always. If you play Don first for a few days, his long-term relationship with Cassandra will increase and he won't leave her at the altar when you play the Goths.
@@antonpetrov1483 oh that's my bad, i think i must have been mistaken, the family trees cross over so much and I remember her talking about them hahaha
lolita goth with "bookworm,charismatic,childish,great kisser, and romantic" traits sounds like the Lolita book character reference... dont know how shed fit into the goth family though unless she had a really messed up story..which would explain why the devs never explained
i think timaeus is much like lolita in that we know they're a close relative somewhere but exactly where is unknown. I usually chalk him down as either cassandra or alexanders kid because its the easiest fit lol
I'm happy for you starting your own brand. You're getting more and more audience so this is the perfect moment for it. And ofc your artistic part now will live its best life, best wishes and luv u xoxo
I LOVE these history lessons 💖 Could you look into some CLASSIC characters in the future that are harder to find info on? I'm talking about ol' Gabby, Violet, Dr. F, Poppy, Buddy, essentially all of the cute figures we get in debug! (I remember these characters from sim games on the Wii & ds but faintly
There is a theory that Lolita Goth is Gunther’s first wife (before Cornelia) which would explain her not fitting the Goth family traits yet having the last name.
i think Lolita has some kind of beauty and the beast type of storyline with an original Goth member and she married into the family picking up some of her unknown husbands traits
Your hair colors remind me of Rogue from the X-Men, which is so cool! I remember when that style was popular in the 90s. Speaking of the Landgraabs, my Sims 3 series (PS3) features the brother of Malcolm Landgraab, his kids and grandkids. In my story, Malcolm stole his brother's inheritance, so the family has to create their own wealth.
It’s speculated that Lolita is the daughter of Samuel and Olivia Goth, but that the rest of the family was disgusted that Samuel would have a disgusted with another woman of a lower class (speculated this may have been part of the reason of marriage), and why she doesn’t actually show up in any of the family trees. However I’m unsure how she ended up in Sunset Valley.
There is a kind of theory i heard about Lolita (not sure how true it is) but some have said she was Gunther's first wife who died of electrocution, which is why there are no electronics in their house, as well as why her ghost will try flirt with Gunther. Also, the relationship between Cornelia and Gunther isn't that great at the start of the game suggesting that there is something that causes tension between them despite the "perfect" outward appearance - it could be the presence of Lolita's grave. Then there's the literary reference of Lolita who was in love with her older professor - it is somewhat disturbing but also plausible. And would make sense why she isn't in the family tree after Gunther marries Cornelia.
It's so cute how you got excited when the Victorian times came up because it's your special interest!! I'm watching this video because the Sims Lore (specifically Bella Goth) is MY special interest!!!
Honestly listening to your voice is really soothing, so whenever I need to distract myself I watch your videos, and it makes me feel better. Thank you for sharing this lore!
Nice! I never knew about the Goths pre-Gunther. . .and yes, the younger version of him does have some nifty steampunk style. XD I don't know if you've done the Landgraab family as an Entire History, but it feels like going through their family tree would be a good "companion" episode, since they and the Goths have this "thing" going on.
bestie you just got another sub from me cause i just got the sims 4 a few weeks ago and i can't put it down and you filling me in on this sims lore is absolutely EVERYTHING so please more more more of this
For some reason Lolita Goth and her relationship with the Goth family is giving me Princess Diana and the Windsors type vibe. Lolita probably didn’t fit in with the status quo of the morbid and dreary Goth aesthetic, and so she had to go 🫣
My headcanon is that Dina wants Mortimer not only for his money, but also because he invented the Elixir of Life, and she thinks she can get it by marrying him, and generally just live a wonderful, elongated life. But what she doesn't know is that Bella, a witch, is needed to make the Elixir (in my HC it's made with techniques of both alchemy/magic and chemistry/science, and that's why only a scientist and witch closely working together could have produced it). The problem is, without Bella's help Mortimer can't make more of the Elixir, which is also why he has started aging again. It's my headcanon that the Goths are actually older than they look. There's even this thing where Mary-Sue is older than Cassandra despite the two allegedly having been classmates.
My question is actually.. if they have a time line why don’t we readd the whole family tree in the sims 4 as when you click on the family tree that you can see the family time line and how they died .. same with other sims with a time line story.. or am i the only one? ❤
oh man this video is PERFECT for halloween, but I also recently started a run in Sims 4 where I gave the goth family a makeover and cool (giant) apartment in the city, so its really nice to get some of the history!! It's really fun to incorporate lore into builds, after all!
on top of everything wrong with dina cheating on TWO of her lovers with don... he's also basically her sister's highschool sweetheart, nina and don had their first kiss in their teens and they still have crushes on each other
Some people have a theory that Lady Ravendancer Goth is the mother of Samuel and Victor. According to this theory, she's married to one Bartholomew Goth. There has never been mention of a Bartholomew Goth so it's most likely a fanmade character.
"She was having an affair with Don Lothario," is a sentence you can say about over half of the female Sims.
Damnit Don 😂
Fr, once the doctor who was helping me give birth was pregnant with his baby
@@Zay.Loves.LMFAOEJDAO?
Right? Like, I had an affair with Don Lothario at this point, we all did bruv. 😂
I never thought about this until now but... did the Goth family just dig up their whole graveyard and rebury the bodies when they moved to Pleasantview?!
Is that really weirder than leaving their graveyard behind for whoever owns the house next, though?
I'm not sure.
Actually not that weird to move passed loved one’s graves. I had a distant relative get his brother moved when they moved across the country
@@madcasual1111 I feel like the confusion here is because people are much less likely to bury their family on their own land nowadays.
They're dedicated to the aesthetic babes~
If they did, they forgot Prudence
Lolita Goth could have been someone’s first wife, if she doesn’t have a bloodline link to the family she must have married into it.
I agree, but wasn’t she too young for that?
@@barborapisingerova271 i mean, depending on when she lived, teen marriages werent that uncommon, she could have been 18 or even 19. i also saw another comment saying she was actually a young adult
@@barborapisingerova271 the sims wiki says she’s a young adult
The creator of the sims characters in Sunset Valley said she created Lolita Goth to be a mystery. I asked specifically about her
Imo the most convincing argument about Lolita Goth comes from AlexPlaysSims, the tumblr user that “solved” Bella’s disappearance -
Alexander grew up to be a time traveler, him and his wife (Lolita) traveled back to TS3 (where his name appears as the author of Murder in Pleasantview), the time machine broke and Lolita died trying to repair it (hence death by electrocution), and Alexander buried her in the family graveyard. Explains how she could be a Goth without any known relation to the others, she doesn’t exist in this timeline yet…
the goths are literally perfect for a halloween episode
Blessing us with an entire history of on Halloween is the best gift anyone could ever ask for. And about the goth family no less.
“This video is sponsored by ME cuz im starting my own buisness” THE most boss status statement ive ever heard. Get it jess
Honestly why didn’t the sims 4 dive into the early goth/landgrab rivalry; that’s a movie we would watch
Because EA
It's weird because it's still kind of there. In at least the promotional yearbook photos for High School Years pack, it alludes that Mortimer and Nancy may have been exes and Bella rubs that in with her yearbook quote "I haven't met a blonde who's had more fun than me".
@@Ranixo286 wait what??? where does it imply that mortimer and nancy may have been exes, i’m actually really shocked by this!!
because the sims 4 is not as good as it could be sadly.
This is so funny seeing this comment because now two years later they are making a movie lol
The Goth family also has Minerva Goth whose body is buried in Midnight Hollow. And Alexander Goth allegedly is a time traveler who wrote Murder in Pleasantview and Baron Graff Van Gould.
Hmm connections maybe to Van Gould family too . I mean the goth and landgraab rivalry sounds similar to the Van Gould and wolf as of who founded the town .
Let me tell you, you were talking about Lolita and how she was flirty and mysterious etc. etc. and I remembered about Addams Family Values.
We all know the Goths are inspired on them, of course, since the very beginning, and maybe Lolita was a throwback to Debbie, the psychopath who seduced, married and tried to kill Uncle Fester? She *is* buried in the Adams family cemetery, her epitaph reading "Wife & Psycho". So maybe Lolita tried to seduce one of the Goth men for possibly evil reasons (possibly even Gunther) and ended up dying? For me it makes tons of sense.
That makes SO much sense, she even died of electrocution just like Debbie!!
But wasn’t she just a teenager?
@@barborapisingerova271 she's a young adult. But you may be mistaking her for the deceased teenager Goth girl on Moonlight Falls
genius in the chat !!! i think you figured it out :)
an even ickier theory, but perhaps she's based of the book Lolita by Vladimir Nabokov.
I really wish sims 4 wasn't an 'alternative universe', it stops the lore dead in its tracks. All these small details about passed family members are really intriguing.
Also, when are you doing another cosplay video?
I hope they make an expension pack where we can see more of the original timeline. If the canon has time travel (TS2 Don goes to TS3 timeline) then they can travel between universes.
Or they make TS5 fit into the original timeline.
i think the reason why they did an “alternative universe” is cause they’re hella lazy 🤷♀️ instead of giving the people what they want, they half ass it. nothing unusual for sims 4 ofc
@@frozerus Honestly even if they did continue the lore everybody would've just hated it anyways cause every time I've heard a simmer bring up the new households they say they're too generic and lame so why even bother.
@@theninjamaster67 cus they like the Sims 4 are so watered down and boring.😭 They're starting to bring bits and pieces of lore back but it's not working since it's just to try to appeal to the older simmers
@@missbigsteak Yah like I said why bother everyone's just gonna hate what they do anyways cause they always release everything in the buggiest state possible and with as little effort as they can so they may as well just stick to their "kits" and let a better game take it's place once the Sims dies off like Sim City did.
I am convinced Lolita is Alexanders wife from the future. Alexander wanted to solve the mystery of his mothers disappearance so he borrowed a time machine (either from his father or his sister, both are scientist) and went back with his wife to find out what happened. The problem is, the time machine broke and they went too far back. Lolita died from electrocution, as a result, and Alexander was left to write books about his mothers disappearance in order to prevent it.
the way that makes so much sense
Nah probably Gunthers or Victors first love and wife. If that would be true Gunther and Cornelia would know of everything going on. I think the theory comes from "Alex plays Sims" and he got debunked by Miss Lore.😄
I remember seeing an article about a guy who married his animated waifu. Literally a 2D anime girl. So, you know, don't give up on your dreams of marrying a fictional character.
dont say that too loud or the sims players will Battle Royale over Bella Goth lmao
Was his name Krieger?
@@aag2139 Beau Merrick or Caleb Vatore anyone?
@@thesnep4757 mm yes ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Theory: Lolita Goth was a teenager married off to an old member of the Goth family. When she got defiant, they electrocuted her and made it look like an accident
Holy shit, I missed the "theory" part of that comment and thought it was canon for a second. It sounds good but I'm glad it's just canon!
Yes! I immediately thought she was probably a first wife
I though something like that too, the name Lolita raised some red flags
@@lydiaah6282 i sense a conspiracy
The Sims Lore channel and Chrillsims3 have pretty disturbing theories about Lolita Goth
Off topic, but that eye makeup is so cute. Plumbella's been serving LOOKS lately
I'd love to see an entire history of Llamas in the Sims they've been around as Easter eggs forever and now with country living where you can own a Llama it feels complete
Even though it's an alternate universe, I like to imagine that the family tree is mostly unchanged. Whenever I have a save where I allow Alexander to age up and have a family of his own, I almost always name his kids Cornelia or Gunther.
I'd personally like to see an entire history of Sims 3 families with crazy lore but not enough for an entire video but put together would. So maybe like the Remingtons from Riverview, Cooks from Bridgeport, The vampires, etc etc
i second this, would absolutely love a video on the Cooks
omg yes the vampires have great lore in sims 3!
12:26 Actually the intended play order for the scripted events is that you play Don's Household first, then the Goth's, so when you play as Don, Both Cassandra's & Don's Long Term Relationship with each other raises during the night at Don's causing Don to accept the marriage when you play the Goth's if following the scripted events, you also performed a romantic interaction
That is not entirely true, as if you play just the scripted events, yes you are correct about the order but you have to have Cassandra choose the arch meaning she would be the one wanting the wedding and her love for Don is never in question. It is Don's loyalties that are an issue. If you don't do any interaction between Cassandra and Don before clicking the arch then Don will always leave Cassandra at the altar as shown in the cutscene with his shaking hands. If you do even one romantic interaction before that, then, 90)% of the time, they do actually get married.
@@MHruskamusic Yes, that's why I mentioned if you were to be following the scripted events, as the game does guide you towards performing a romantic gesture before getting married, but your right that Don mostly won't accept if they straight up get married immediately after playing
@@AbiRose539 ah yes, I usually had her get married to Darren since he actually loved her and her only so I always forget that they actually prompt the interactions first to secure the wedding.
@@MHruskamusic I just started up the sims 2 again and got Cassandra married to Darren as they both deserve. Don deserves nothing!
as a kid i usually just had Don get caught cheating by Cassie and then I got her married to Darren
the only good thing the sims 4 gives us about the goths is the illusion they're a perfect couple so I can pretend they're the Addams
Since the Agnes & Cornelia connection has come to light, I've liked to believe that, had Agnes been the Crumplebottom relative featured heavily in TS2 (since the Mrs. Crumplebottom there is a distant relative to Agnes), she would've had a HUGE vendetta against Don Lothario.
The Crumplebottoms are already known to have it in for flirty sims & yes, her TS3 bio states that even tho she's still close with her sister, she's not that close to her brother-in-law or nephew...but just the same. I think the familial connection of her being Cassandra's great-aunt would give her the perfect excuse to bean Don that much harder with her handbag for leaving Cass at the altar XD
Always love love love the Goth's but people tend to forget that Gunther and Cornelia Goth are in the Sims 1 Unleashed, and they have 2 siamese cats that are very sweet. I don't remember if it added any lore to the game but I loved the old couple so much, probably one of the premades I played with the most in the sims 1.
Was incredibly depressed today and had a breakdown. I'm finally cooling down and now am so happy to see another entire history of 🥺 love you plum ❤️
i hope you feel better soon! have a good halloween
@@CeceSamara Thank you so much
I was going through the same thing, I kid you not. I'm doing a bit better now, I hope you are too ❤
not having a good day either. i wish you all the best!! hopefully tomorrow will be brighter for both of us :) 🌄
Take care. And be kind and understanding to yourself.
❤️
"What a lovely suburban neighborh-GOTH!" made me WEEP also I cannot wait for that Sims 2 PSP LP, that was my favourite game in the entire franchise for so long!!!
Just to remind something that no one talks about: Actually Don is older than Cassandra because Don was already an adult before Bella disappeared while Cassandra was still a teenager and she was the last that aged up after Mortimer and Alexander ages up. I know that in game she looks older than Don but that could be because she also wore dark makeup and dark clothes so makes totally sense that she will look older.
And Alexander is actually older than the Pleasant twins, as he was born when Cassandra and Mary-Sue were teenagers. But in-game he’s a child while the Pleasant twins are teenagers. Age continuity is a mess in Sims 2 xD
@@CarlDillynson Ikr
she doesn’t look old at all with those pigtails, i thought everyone knew that Don was older and that was part of why Mortimer disapproved.
"A grumpy loner with commitment issues." Yeah, I definitely relate.
This is literally the PERFECT thing for today!! The Goths! Appropriate!
Moment of silence for how good jesse’s hair looks like this?!?! I feel like shes found her hair, you looks incredible girl
No matter how many times I play, I can never get Don to leave Cassandra at the alter. Even when I make them fight before the wedding they still tie the knot.
I love these History Of vids!
From my understanding, he only leaves her if u ignore the scripted events and just marry them right away when you enter the household
@@king_nate_9261 I've done that, and he still left her. I've had to restart my game several times and wanted something new, looked it up, and then did everything I could to get him to leave her at the alter. They even fell out of love and yet he still married her. Lol, I think I have a glitched game.
@@sandalaris Really? huh, that's weird. In my games that's the only way for them to get married, otherwise he always leave her. Maybe it's a random thing
The fact that Mrs. Crumplebottom is Morty‘s aunt probably should not be so much of a surprise and yet here I am
The perfection in this is chef's kiss. I love your pink hair but this narcissa fantasy is everythinggg
My favorite save on the sims 3 was the one where my sim grew up to marry Mortimer and I didn't know any of the lore then but I'd like to think my sim threw a big wrench in the goth family timeline 😂
I love how the first 3 sims games had this massive lore with all the iconic families and then in the sims 4 it's just like "Oh yeah, you got cheese hair caliente and sure, why not add the goths they where popular with the sims community"
is it possible Lolita was a murderer and died from electric chair? her outfit looks like its supposed to resemble a jail outfit?!
Little sister is currently trick or treating so I’m minding my dog in my room making sure he doesn’t bark at the kids who ring the door bell 😅 Happy hallowe’en everyone!!
good luck. LOL depending on ur dog, he may go nuts.
@@emerson3669 it’s so funny tho because he doesn’t mind the fireworks at all, he’s literally sleeping through them, but as soon as the door bell rings he goes absolutely mental
I had to carry my dog to the door to stop him barking at trick or treaters, he revelled in all the attention 😂 Love the profile pic.
I'd love to see the entire history of Simlish! I think you could make a great video on that :)
Literally the perfect family to do on Halloween 🎃
How fuckin appropriate to get an entire history of the Goth family for Halloween. Plumbella knows what her fans want
I've literally just finished going through this series (i did it in one go so ow my eyes). but yeeeey another video!
I can never get enough of the goths and no better way to hear about them than an entire history of... god bless you jessie
12:30 Not always. If you play Don first for a few days, his long-term relationship with Cassandra will increase and he won't leave her at the altar when you play the Goths.
this is widely known
I'm still waiting for The entire history of Curious(Smith) family or Beakers.
she has videos on them both
@@emmahu4543 she has videos about Smith and Nervous. Not about Curious and Beakers.
@@antonpetrov1483 oh that's my bad, i think i must have been mistaken, the family trees cross over so much and I remember her talking about them hahaha
All the lunar isle items are so cute. I can’t wait for international shipping to become available!
Lolita Goth kinda reminds me of Debby from Addams Family Values. At least in reference to her death.
Personality wise, Debby would definitely be Dina
lolita goth with "bookworm,charismatic,childish,great kisser, and romantic" traits sounds like the Lolita book character reference... dont know how shed fit into the goth family though unless she had a really messed up story..which would explain why the devs never explained
I'm curious how Rebecca and Timaeus Goth from the sims 3 pets are related to the main family.
yeah same i was thinking about that
i think timaeus is much like lolita in that we know they're a close relative somewhere but exactly where is unknown. I usually chalk him down as either cassandra or alexanders kid because its the easiest fit lol
I'm happy for you starting your own brand. You're getting more and more audience so this is the perfect moment for it. And ofc your artistic part now will live its best life, best wishes and luv u xoxo
I LOVE these history lessons 💖 Could you look into some CLASSIC characters in the future that are harder to find info on? I'm talking about ol' Gabby, Violet, Dr. F, Poppy, Buddy, essentially all of the cute figures we get in debug! (I remember these characters from sim games on the Wii & ds but faintly
I’ve been WAITIN for this one turn it UP
Glad to be back with everyone! Love the new merch and hair! I’m a viewer from Georgia(USA).
The moment you get international shipping on your merch I will purchaseeeee. So excited for you!
At the chemists the other day they called out for a 'Bella Goth' and I whipped my head up so fast
There is a theory that Lolita Goth is Gunther’s first wife (before Cornelia) which would explain her not fitting the Goth family traits yet having the last name.
i think Lolita has some kind of beauty and the beast type of storyline with an original Goth member and she married into the family picking up some of her unknown husbands traits
it’s not a day without plumbella when she talks about the goths
Your family modeling is the best thing that ever happened
Thanks for uploading something fun today, feel shit about Halloween this year so I needed it
Dina is iconic. Get that bread, get that head, then leave. Peace out.
ive been binge watching your sims videos all day this is a blessingg
,,what's it gonna take for me to get married to a fictional character?" I ask myself the same question at least once a week
Entire history of plumbella rocking cool hair colors and styles
Your hair colors remind me of Rogue from the X-Men, which is so cool! I remember when that style was popular in the 90s. Speaking of the Landgraabs, my Sims 3 series (PS3) features the brother of Malcolm Landgraab, his kids and grandkids. In my story, Malcolm stole his brother's inheritance, so the family has to create their own wealth.
"what does it take for me to get married with a fictional character?" Ikr??? 😭
first of all, you look stunning, and second i don't think there's a more perfect video for halloween than the goth's history lol
It’s speculated that Lolita is the daughter of Samuel and Olivia Goth, but that the rest of the family was disgusted that Samuel would have a disgusted with another woman of a lower class (speculated this may have been part of the reason of marriage), and why she doesn’t actually show up in any of the family trees. However I’m unsure how she ended up in Sunset Valley.
YES! You go girl love to see you make your own merch. Can't wait for you to go international!
A woman in the US married a bridge so I'm sure a fictional character isn't too far out there
Gunther and Cordelia were also in the sims 1 with their 2 cats
There is a kind of theory i heard about Lolita (not sure how true it is) but some have said she was Gunther's first wife who died of electrocution, which is why there are no electronics in their house, as well as why her ghost will try flirt with Gunther. Also, the relationship between Cornelia and Gunther isn't that great at the start of the game suggesting that there is something that causes tension between them despite the "perfect" outward appearance - it could be the presence of Lolita's grave. Then there's the literary reference of Lolita who was in love with her older professor - it is somewhat disturbing but also plausible. And would make sense why she isn't in the family tree after Gunther marries Cornelia.
So proud of your business!! And Im so glad we now have a Goth EHO
My personal conspiracy is that Lolita is the love child of Samuel and Gretle Goth
WE HAVE BEEN BLESSED WITH MY FAVORITE SERIES ON THE BEST DAY OF THE YEAR
the Goths are my favorite family! i’m playing a legacy with them now
It's so cute how you got excited when the Victorian times came up because it's your special interest!! I'm watching this video because the Sims Lore (specifically Bella Goth) is MY special interest!!!
Honestly listening to your voice is really soothing, so whenever I need to distract myself I watch your videos, and it makes me feel better. Thank you for sharing this lore!
i love the items on your shop, cant wait for international shipping :))
I love re watching these videos every couple months when i need a sims fix and i forget the contents of the videos
I knew Halloween was my favourite holiday for a reason and that is THIS VIDEO 💅🏻😤
Plumbella absolutely blessing me with Goth content today.
history of kettle erasure in the sims
A play through of Sims 2 PSP sounds amazing!
Imagine mourning the death of your husband by hooking up with his missing sister’s husband…
perfect timing - needed this today, thanks 🕸💀☠👀🎃
Nice! I never knew about the Goths pre-Gunther. . .and yes, the younger version of him does have some nifty steampunk style. XD I don't know if you've done the Landgraab family as an Entire History, but it feels like going through their family tree would be a good "companion" episode, since they and the Goths have this "thing" going on.
bestie you just got another sub from me cause i just got the sims 4 a few weeks ago and i can't put it down and you filling me in on this sims lore is absolutely EVERYTHING so please more more more of this
YESSS!! im obsessed. thank u sm for such a lovely spooky day present!!
For some reason Lolita Goth and her relationship with the Goth family is giving me Princess Diana and the Windsors type vibe. Lolita probably didn’t fit in with the status quo of the morbid and dreary Goth aesthetic, and so she had to go 🫣
My headcanon is that Dina wants Mortimer not only for his money, but also because he invented the Elixir of Life, and she thinks she can get it by marrying him, and generally just live a wonderful, elongated life. But what she doesn't know is that Bella, a witch, is needed to make the Elixir (in my HC it's made with techniques of both alchemy/magic and chemistry/science, and that's why only a scientist and witch closely working together could have produced it).
The problem is, without Bella's help Mortimer can't make more of the Elixir, which is also why he has started aging again.
It's my headcanon that the Goths are actually older than they look. There's even this thing where Mary-Sue is older than Cassandra despite the two allegedly having been classmates.
My question is actually.. if they have a time line why don’t we readd the whole family tree in the sims 4 as when you click on the family tree that you can see the family time line and how they died .. same with other sims with a time line story.. or am i the only one? ❤
oh man this video is PERFECT for halloween, but I also recently started a run in Sims 4 where I gave the goth family a makeover and cool (giant) apartment in the city, so its really nice to get some of the history!! It's really fun to incorporate lore into builds, after all!
Just loving the Makin' Magic vibes in this one. Hope your Halloween was spooktacular! Thank you for covering my favorite family!
on top of everything wrong with dina cheating on TWO of her lovers with don... he's also basically her sister's highschool sweetheart, nina and don had their first kiss in their teens and they still have crushes on each other
oof i am loving this outfit/makeup combo ??? and the new hair too??? 11/10 wonderful amazing fantastic
Oh you are treating us today!!
As soon as you can do international shipping, I am procuring one of those comfy and cute sweatshirts.
i couldn’t stop looking at your makeup babes, absolutely ON POINT, loved it 💖
You should do an entire history of llamas! They're so prominent in the sims franchise.
Some people have a theory that Lady Ravendancer Goth is the mother of Samuel and Victor. According to this theory, she's married to one Bartholomew Goth. There has never been mention of a Bartholomew Goth so it's most likely a fanmade character.
A PSP LP OMFG IKYFL 🔥🔥🔥 I love it here
Yes Halloween content!! And I'm early!