Game Theory: The Unsolved Lore of The Sims (Bella Goth Mystery)

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    Can you believe I've never covered the Sims? Once I realized it, I knew I had to remedy that IMMEDIATELY! And what better way than to dive into the weird and wondrous LORE of the Sims universe? There is a surprising amount of lore to sift through, so today we are focusing on one of the biggest ongoing mysteries. The mystery of Bella Goth. Who is she? You are about to find out more than you could ever imagine.
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  • @OverflowingWithIdeas
    @OverflowingWithIdeas Рік тому +31622

    FINALLY, THE SIMS THEORY IVE BEEN WAITING FOR! THANK YOU MATPAT!

  • @yourbestpallshawn4139
    @yourbestpallshawn4139 Рік тому +10959

    “Bella disappeared without even a dag dag” I’m actually dying.

  • @1NT3RN3TBARF
    @1NT3RN3TBARF Рік тому +11056

    For someone that doesn’t play the sims
    This is probably the equivalent to watching a murder mystery

  • @wildflowerwingz4398
    @wildflowerwingz4398 Рік тому +5340

    This just make me realize how much sims 4 is missing. The og sims had so much going on that you’d never get bored.

    • @coastlinexclothes
      @coastlinexclothes Рік тому +78

      bella is in sims 4, i was playing yesterday and the first person i saw was her

    • @blew2077
      @blew2077 Рік тому +206

      @@coastlinexclothes yes but it doesn’t add to the lore

    • @coastlinexclothes
      @coastlinexclothes Рік тому +42

      @@blew2077 yeah ik, i just never knew that she disappeared

    • @Ash2theB
      @Ash2theB Рік тому +78

      because it's a different timeline.

    • @Ash2theB
      @Ash2theB Рік тому +8

      @@blew2077 Umm it actually does Strange Town

  • @MissSweetie
    @MissSweetie Рік тому +1878

    the calientes are truly evil, but mortimer goth really was a fool to fall for the caliente's shenanigans

    • @kurukavatar5089
      @kurukavatar5089 Рік тому +93

      I always knew my brother was in the right for blowing them up with a grill

    • @alondraarrizon5472
      @alondraarrizon5472 Рік тому +39

      Literally. Like how does your wife disappear without a trace and you end up falling like an idiot for two other ladies

    • @laco403
      @laco403 10 місяців тому +29

      They can send Sims into the past. It only stands to reason that they also have the means to manipulate Sims to be romantically interested in them.

    • @KeitieKalopsia
      @KeitieKalopsia 9 місяців тому +14

      I wouldn't be surprised if they used some shady tactics to make him fall for Dina. It doesn't sound like they ever play fair.

    • @laurenfaulk4637
      @laurenfaulk4637 Місяць тому +2

      To be fair it’s been a whole life stage since her disappearance, he’s an elderly, depressed, broken soul.

  • @KemFi
    @KemFi Рік тому +7408

    "Whenever there's a backstory, there is LOOOOOOOOOORE!",said MatPat calmly.

    • @user-to8hw5vg8x
      @user-to8hw5vg8x Рік тому +16

      @icecream !! weeewoooweeewooo

    • @SoggyCoffeeAddict
      @SoggyCoffeeAddict Рік тому +19

      "Did you put your name in the goblet of fire harry?!?!?!?!!??!??!!!!!" Dumbledore said calmly

    • @jan.akisa.
      @jan.akisa. Рік тому +4

      why is every bot on this comment

    • @_Gingi_Berri
      @_Gingi_Berri Рік тому +9

      I love these bots claiming to lead to videos about getting rid of bots

    • @Hat.
      @Hat. Рік тому

      The matpat movies vs the books

  • @helpidroppedmydignity6138
    @helpidroppedmydignity6138 Рік тому +23406

    If Matpat dived really deep in Sims lore he would have an abundance of content, especially from the older titles

    • @Yayiden
      @Yayiden Рік тому +711

      I really thought he was going to talk about strangerville tho. It might not be related to Bella Goth story but its still really intresting and might give us a lot of ideas for all of the paranormal stuff going on in this city

    • @helpidroppedmydignity6138
      @helpidroppedmydignity6138 Рік тому +389

      @@Yayiden Not just Strangerville, there's Olivia Specter, the Landgrabbs, etc.

    • @booleah6357
      @booleah6357 Рік тому +186

      Sims 3 when you could cook and eat babies

    • @zeroknight1311
      @zeroknight1311 Рік тому +164

      We might end up having a complete series of videos that could Rival the number of Minecraft theories. I'm not saying the Fnaf Theories because....that number can't be surpassed by any other series. Especially with how Fnaf theories seem to just appear on this channel.

    • @M0rbidCuriositea
      @M0rbidCuriositea Рік тому +121

      Plumbella has an amazing series on the history of specific sims. I think she has several about Bella.

  • @akarimonet
    @akarimonet Рік тому +768

    I wish sims would make a scenario around finding out why and how she disappeared, I would do partake in that

  • @tomsparrow1823
    @tomsparrow1823 Рік тому +830

    Therapist: SimPat isn't real, he can't hurt you
    SimPat: 👁👁🤔

    • @Nhaptenkenh
      @Nhaptenkenh Рік тому +8

      Sul sul

    • @discoverysmith1111
      @discoverysmith1111 9 місяців тому +7

      wohutu tukiwatu'si dohusitu wa tukiweboruya, wa bawamowe tukiweboruya! tukiwanilasi naboru fewatulikijiniba. (But thats just a theory, a game theory! Thanks for watching.)

  • @sm0rie
    @sm0rie Рік тому +3724

    I'm surprised we haven't discussed this yet on this channel. The amount of mysterious lore is just itching to be unveiled

    • @shmook28
      @shmook28 Рік тому +28

      Agreed! Especially in the item descriptions these games are dripping with seeeecreeeets

    • @ilikedairy8539
      @ilikedairy8539 Рік тому +12

      @@shmook28 yeah I think there is a story talking about a princess and pirate love story in some of the descriptions of the items in the sims 4!

    • @Deeviiouss
      @Deeviiouss Рік тому

      Fr

  • @Katie-ws8ph
    @Katie-ws8ph Рік тому +122

    “She enjoyed many passtimes, from golf to minigolf”

  • @CammieCakesz
    @CammieCakesz Рік тому +127

    I literally almost choked on my food when he said “ Bella disappeared without even a dag dag” in such a serious voice 😂😂 I cannot. Great detective work! Your explanation makes wayyyy more sense and you definitely cracked the case WIDE open

  • @djparty4941
    @djparty4941 Рік тому +1760

    Killing the maids in the sims 3 when they’d flirt with your husband was so tense. I’m so glad he found this mystery. The caliente sisters and don lotharo are suspicious

    • @him6603
      @him6603 Рік тому +12

      who said you had to kill them? 😐

    • @michaeld.jconnolly1281
      @michaeld.jconnolly1281 Рік тому +6

      Alien Abduction was revealed when in?Sims 3 you explored the Alien home world there is Belle Goths Tombstone.

    • @EEEEEEEE
      @EEEEEEEE Рік тому

      E‎ ‎

    • @willford55543
      @willford55543 Рік тому +1

      @@michaeld.jconnolly1281 I mean in one of the neighborhoods in Sims 2 you can find Bella's alien body double there as well.

  • @CambieEverdeen
    @CambieEverdeen Рік тому +7482

    That also makes sense why Bella’s whole family is together in the Sims 4, the alternate timeline. The timeline where her warnings from the past had worked

    • @BunnyDoesArtThings
      @BunnyDoesArtThings Рік тому +351

      Technically it isnt either, players just say that. Because reality the sims just never continued the lore because by sims 4 they were money hungry, ddint care about it

    • @unknown60963
      @unknown60963 Рік тому +133

      Cambie, Bella escaped, she is in the Sims 4 because her warnings worked, it isn't a alternate timeline, it's just bella being smart.

    • @tgamer1510
      @tgamer1510 Рік тому +30

      @@BunnyDoesArtThings This just isn't true. grow up

    • @astronomy7823
      @astronomy7823 Рік тому +117

      @@unknown60963 No it's because Sims 4 has little to no significant lore because EA got indeed too money hungry. If she really escaped you would've had any sort of hint about it, such as Nina/Dina being locked up or some lore regarding the past. Go read Caliente's biography in Sims 4, if you still think it isn't an "alternate timeline" aka just EA being lazy then you must be high.

    • @redrosey6768
      @redrosey6768 Рік тому +6

      That what I think to glad someone make this comment

  • @flonet5906
    @flonet5906 Рік тому +212

    What I find very interesting is that when you play as the goth family, Cassanda has a negative memory of losing her mother. However, Mortimer has a positive memory of losing her. The sisters are aliens and Mortimer had a romantic relationship with the one of the Caliente sisters. So I think that Mortimer worked together with the Caliente sisters.

    • @deadeyeguys
      @deadeyeguys Рік тому +50

      im pretty sure mortimer is a knowledge sim. they always have positive memories when they or a family member get abducted by aliens. while it's suspicious, i usually chalk it up to the way the game was programmed.

    • @flonet5906
      @flonet5906 Рік тому +21

      @@deadeyeguys After going back and playing the sims 2 again, I think you might be right, although i still find it suspicious that Motimer has a romantic relationship with one of the Caliente sisters.

    • @deadeyeguys
      @deadeyeguys Рік тому +11

      @@flonet5906 yeah i do agree w that, it's weird but it doesn't inherently mean he had anything to do with it, he's probably just a weirdo lmao. but in general tbh, as someone who knows a... bit too much about sims lore i don't agree with matpat's theory at all in general as well.

    • @KNUCKLES-vl5bv
      @KNUCKLES-vl5bv 11 місяців тому +3

      @@deadeyeguys what's your theory?

    • @Lemony123
      @Lemony123 8 місяців тому +1

      @@flonet5906 I wonder if Mortimer actually know about Cassandra ancestor, and that is why he actually had it.

  • @jennhernandz3912
    @jennhernandz3912 Рік тому +113

    Well, there’s another key piece of information that you overlooked that’s very easily very early stated in this whole thing Bella was the last scene scaling that means climbing his balcony. Nobody finds that weird but me.

    • @alexking1075
      @alexking1075 Рік тому +7

      She may have been climbing his balcony for personal reasons (affair) but she was abducted from said area before anything could happen

    • @vexywexypoo
      @vexywexypoo Рік тому +27

      Knowing the sims, she might be been trying to kill him in his sleep or something.

    • @PhantomCheddar
      @PhantomCheddar Рік тому +36

      this could mean that the abduction took place at his house. whoever saw it saw her floating up, and misremembered it as her climbing

    • @Mustafa_AhmedPGH
      @Mustafa_AhmedPGH Рік тому

      @@PhantomCheddar Could be.

    • @b3etcbooksbindersbeliefs533
      @b3etcbooksbindersbeliefs533 Рік тому

      He gave her a house tour 🤣

  • @maiqisdonetalking1832
    @maiqisdonetalking1832 Рік тому +4144

    "Bella disappeared without even a dag dag" made my day.

  • @chriscomer1798
    @chriscomer1798 Рік тому +935

    The "she disappeared without even a dagdag" REALLY got me lol

    • @NurseKortney
      @NurseKortney Рік тому +10

      Lmao me too! I started laughing hard

    • @meggnogg
      @meggnogg Рік тому +11

      Same here, not even a casual lil nose laugh but a full on belly laugh lol

    • @MarieMaia445
      @MarieMaia445 Рік тому +8

      Caught me off guard too.😂😂😂 I've never surprised laugh before.

  • @broadwaybrat1986
    @broadwaybrat1986 Рік тому +95

    The fact that my sim tried to kiss Bella and she rejected her and all of a sudden Dina appeared out of nowhere and kissed my sim. They are married now and living a beautiful lesbian relationship. This is mind blowing right now…

  • @zanyzz2343
    @zanyzz2343 Рік тому +26

    0:53 Let’s just appreciate that he said hello in Simlish.

  • @deku976
    @deku976 Рік тому +2692

    "Those who knew her best would describe her as: Jowlenin, kooj, and even ravasheen" absolutely killed me

  • @xx_robotkrew_xx1446
    @xx_robotkrew_xx1446 Рік тому +1152

    I certainly wasn’t ever expecting in the 7+ years I’ve been watching the theory channels for Mat to make a theory about the SIMS, but here we are

    • @blitzie66
      @blitzie66 Рік тому +6

      i was so excited to see this- been playing these games since i was a child and love the lore of them

    • @blyat8832
      @blyat8832 Рік тому +7

      Then you must've actually not been watching for 7+ years like you just lied about lmao. They've done theories for way wackier and more obscure games, of course they'd do one for this one. I am guessing they just didn't know there was a big theory inside this game until recently

    • @xx_robotkrew_xx1446
      @xx_robotkrew_xx1446 Рік тому +7

      @@blyat8832 no what I’m saying is that I wasn’t expecting there to be any kind of lore in the SIMS. Granted, I don’t play the sims. That’s what I meant. Sorry if that wasn’t exactly clear

    • @Human_traain
      @Human_traain Рік тому +1

      Its fake

    • @ms.fukawa-hanamura3754
      @ms.fukawa-hanamura3754 Рік тому

      @beyond your imagination Nice nuts

  • @raistlinsmith4181
    @raistlinsmith4181 Рік тому +35

    Does that mean I broke the cycle when I stole Bella from her husband changed her name and hair and killed a rich guy to live in his house and forced her to never speak to her family again? Wow I’m a hero and I didn’t even know it

  • @celesteeeeee
    @celesteeeeee Рік тому +55

    Is it just me or does that Goth family remind you of the Adams family 😂

    • @doc-savage
      @doc-savage Рік тому +11

      Isn't that the exact reference that they're based on? 🤣🤣

  • @xavierparis2789
    @xavierparis2789 Рік тому +1105

    I desperately want to see more Sims theories in the future. The entire “canon” has this mysterious air to it, and since it’s supposed to be a sandbox you only ever get just enough to make you wonder, so it’s always super intriguing. Creeped me out as a kid. If I recall, the Sims 2 has an entire plot when played on PSP, I wonder if that ties into anything.

    • @lulaellie
      @lulaellie Рік тому +39

      Yeah, you can spot Bella who tells you she's running away from aliens even :)

    • @SkycometFallen
      @SkycometFallen Рік тому +31

      Look into Olive Specter. She’s a serial killer who buried her victims in the backyard. She even has a chair to gloat from. (The sims 2)

    • @justaperson4656
      @justaperson4656 Рік тому +11

      The sims 2 also has lore on sims 2 ds, such as the mayor of strangetown (Honest) being murdered by a mafia man (Frankie). Iirc didn't the sims 2 psp also happen in strangetown? I remember nervous subject being dead in that game

    • @TheElephantChumpkin
      @TheElephantChumpkin Рік тому +3

      Ps2 sims2 had storyline as well.

    • @duskdawn1974
      @duskdawn1974 Рік тому

      Sims 2 psp had ghosts, monsters, zombies aliens, a cow cult, a robot wife, a mad scientist, bella, and a couple of other weirdos. It's so interesting maaan.

  • @vi0letrei
    @vi0letrei Рік тому +842

    I used to spend hours just reading all the descriptions of everything in the sims, the writers are top tier

  • @adviththegreat5610
    @adviththegreat5610 6 місяців тому +11

    I think there is something missing in the theory. Bella was last seen scaling the deck of Don's condo, but why? Was she lured there? That could be a possibility as he was dating both the sisters, they could have made him lure her to a to his condo and then sent her to past. Not only that, this would also explain why they sent Don to past, to erase any evidence. Anyways, as sims 4 was my first sims game, I used to think sims games don't really have much going in them but now after watching this I was surprised. Great video mat.

  • @DessertDoggie
    @DessertDoggie Рік тому +23

    There's only so hyped you can get about city planning" my thoughts immediately went to Annabeth Chase.

  • @projekttaku1
    @projekttaku1 Рік тому +2316

    Matpat! Another mystery in the Goth family is from the Sim 3. There’s a grave in the backyard named “Lolita Goth” who died of electrocution. The texture beside her grave is more brown dirt compared to Gunther’s parents who had dark green grass, implying that she was buried recently. In addition, if you look at any of the Goth family trees, there no Lolita in sight

    • @mexicafluentgamer473
      @mexicafluentgamer473 Рік тому +85

      Could be a family pet

    • @AutisticKittyStar
      @AutisticKittyStar Рік тому +87

      She died before electricity was a thing, her ghost can be found ...

    • @coolguy5133
      @coolguy5133 Рік тому +1

      @Based Beast 😈 Bruh, put up or shut up!

    • @SCPguy
      @SCPguy Рік тому +22

      @Based Beast 😈 no you’re not

    • @SCPguy
      @SCPguy Рік тому +20

      @Based Beast 😈 no you’re not

  • @justsam4321
    @justsam4321 Рік тому +976

    FINALLY. We did it simmers. We reeled in Matpat into the lore of the sims
    And this is only a taste of what the main Sims games have to offer

    • @mystykmarigold
      @mystykmarigold Рік тому +4

      1, 2, 3, 4 ,5, 6 ,7 bots noticed, 3 of which are the same bot with the same message

  • @dominicstevenson8816
    @dominicstevenson8816 Рік тому +25

    Sims online and sims medieval sound like my kind of game, and I just leaned about them now.

  • @princeneko9103
    @princeneko9103 11 місяців тому +9

    I'm surprised it took Game Theory this long to talk about probably one of the biggest misteries in video game history but alas, I am very happy it's finally here

  • @Snowangel231
    @Snowangel231 Рік тому +2374

    You're gonna love Strangetown's backstories. I personally like Curious, Beaker and Specter household backstories. Specter family is creepy but also very sad one.

    • @raxxie
      @raxxie Рік тому +75

      Sims 2 had the BEST lore to play with. I miss Strangetowne every day!

    • @huynguyen-yb4pf
      @huynguyen-yb4pf Рік тому +1

      ok

    • @galicry
      @galicry Рік тому +5

      honestly when i first saw this vid when it came out, i thought this was goimg to be about the ghost in the mansion u just... adopt? in sims 2

    • @rena3433
      @rena3433 Рік тому +1

      ​@@raxxie oo

    • @rena3433
      @rena3433 Рік тому +1

      ​@@raxxie oopoooqo

  • @AussieCassPlays
    @AussieCassPlays Рік тому +2512

    The Caliente family name literally has the word alien in it. The Sims team were never subtle. But the Sims 4 isn’t part of the same lore universe as the rest of the franchise - Bella was never abducted in that game.

    • @mineamuumaa6849
      @mineamuumaa6849 Рік тому +207

      Maybe Bella was able to change the future of her the Sims 3 kid-self by writing those books. And that's why she's still there in the Sims 4?

    • @jjbarajas5341
      @jjbarajas5341 Рік тому +264

      I mean.. Caliente just means "Hot" in Spanish. If the devs were alluding to aliens on purpose, that was a clever bilingual joke.

    • @Philmccracken790
      @Philmccracken790 Рік тому +104

      @@jjbarajas5341 theres a lot of jokes like that in the game, it was definitely on purpose

    • @AussieCassPlays
      @AussieCassPlays Рік тому +17

      @@jjbarajas5341 I’m positive that was the case. 🙂

    • @Anti-HyperLink
      @Anti-HyperLink Рік тому +29

      I've never even thought of that. How is that not subtle?

  • @Dfayethegay9
    @Dfayethegay9 Рік тому +39

    Sometimes
    I wonder what goes on in his head, I never thought the sims could be theorized

  • @jonathanwarrdddedcxddeecec4787
    @jonathanwarrdddedcxddeecec4787 Рік тому +13

    This theory was great. And I might be biased as a huge Vinesauce fan buuut, if sims theory’s are now on the table you should look into Johnny Zest.

  • @kayaikinci9855
    @kayaikinci9855 Рік тому +1870

    I've waited for 16 years for this explanation from the creators , you are really a life saver

    • @Hadalamehandle
      @Hadalamehandle Рік тому +23

      “Where there is backstory there is MUSIC MANNNNNN”

    • @maxwellstefan8868
      @maxwellstefan8868 Рік тому +26

      Plumbella on youtube covered this same theory also and she makes a lot of other videos about Sims lore if you're interested

    • @alissabeck5608
      @alissabeck5608 Рік тому +4

      There's also a channel called The Sims Lore that dives into the lore of all of the different sim families

    • @kayaikinci9855
      @kayaikinci9855 Рік тому

      @@alissabeck5608 yes, I love that channel just recently discovered that and watched all her videos

  • @dazzlethestar151
    @dazzlethestar151 Рік тому +1482

    I remember hearing about the disappearance of Bella Goth and always wondered what happened to her. Glad to see MatPat trying to solve this mystery!

  • @ClementWilliamstheoneandonly
    @ClementWilliamstheoneandonly Рік тому +6

    I loved the Sims as a kid, but I always kinda wished there was an option beyond sandbox play for more explicit story-driven events, etc! This is exactly the kinda background lore that I wish could have been pushed more to the forefront in a story mode of sorts!

  • @mckamy4711
    @mckamy4711 Рік тому +14

    now that we know the sims 5 is coming, it'll be interesting to see how they continue the goth family story

  • @alpha-noob7820
    @alpha-noob7820 Рік тому +1350

    Bella was just taken to be a part of one of Graystillplays’s “experiments”, honestly a fate worse than death. But that’s just a game theory.

    • @TheGudeGamer
      @TheGudeGamer Рік тому +13

      LMAO

    • @scarxnnivs
      @scarxnnivs Рік тому +79

      Made even worse if you remember Gray hasn't played the Sims in like 3 years lmao.

    • @terezamatys4489
      @terezamatys4489 Рік тому +40

      Too bad there haven't been new videos about it lately. I miss the torture.

    • @CyberBlastoise
      @CyberBlastoise Рік тому +36

      Alright so we're playing the only game where you can abduct someone to ruin their marriage, it's The Sims

    • @_.z33._
      @_.z33._ Рік тому +16

      im convinced this is actually what happened

  • @haileywheeler1397
    @haileywheeler1397 Рік тому +800

    The amount of lore we have within the sims games is crazily abundant. If matpat did a deep dive he would have soooo many videos on his hands. I am all for matpat getting into sims lore.

  • @Heather_no_numbers
    @Heather_no_numbers Рік тому +12

    Whoa, that is pretty amazing. And kind of creepy. Man, I wish i could play the Sims again. It was so fun just building houses and neighborhoods. I think i built more than the Sims themselves.

  • @lulumo9229
    @lulumo9229 11 місяців тому +6

    We need more sims theories. There's so many mysteries in the sims. Like Olive in sims 2 with the graveyard in her yard, her romance with the grim reaper and her son who was taken away and adopted by evil scientists.

  • @anastasiaalex6177
    @anastasiaalex6177 Рік тому +386

    “Bella disappeared without a dag dag” im dead 😂 he isn’t wrong

    • @BerryPower15
      @BerryPower15 Рік тому

      obligatory rick roll link: ua-cam.com/video/dQw4w9WgXcQ/v-deo.html

    • @diversezebra6754
      @diversezebra6754 Рік тому +2

      Not as dead as Bella.....

  • @julia-so5jo
    @julia-so5jo Рік тому +773

    As someone who had a phase where I was obsessed with Sims lore, my personal favorite explanation is the one Plumbella covers in her “Bella Goth Mystery Solved” video (not the exact title but if you search that you’ll find it). It ties everything together without having to make any leaps that are too far and explains other mysteries like the identities of Mathilde Goth and Lolita Goth (the first being a sim in the Sims 3 with seemingly no connection to the family but looking exactly like Bella, and the latter being a sim in the Goth’s graveyard not found on the family tree) and even why The Sims 4 is in an alternate universe.

    • @L16htW4rr10r
      @L16htW4rr10r Рік тому +7

      I assume this is the old video then. Does it has the same conclusion with Mattpat? If you mind spoiling me a bit

    • @trickskitauknow7744
      @trickskitauknow7744 Рік тому +48

      I'd like to say that I also like quite Plumbella's video but also without context, from your comment alone, you saying that there are no leaps then following it up with "The Sims 4 is in an alternate universe" is really funny to me.

    • @julia-so5jo
      @julia-so5jo Рік тому +3

      @@trickskitauknow7744 yeah lol

    • @kaitlynlorentzen4375
      @kaitlynlorentzen4375 Рік тому +15

      @@trickskitauknow7744 but the Sims 4 is an alternate universe. There is no correlation with the original lore anywhere in the fourth game. For example, Bella never disappeared, Don Lothario is a serial romantic but has no relationship with Cassandra which makes sense since she's a teen and he's a young adult. The Caliente sisters aren't even aliens and although there is still quite a lot of drama surrounding all these characters, there is no backstory suggesting that the abduction ever happened. So it's not a leap, I'm pretty sure it's canon or in reality extreme laziness on EAs part so that they didn't have to continue that storyline.

    • @Philmccracken790
      @Philmccracken790 Рік тому +4

      @@trickskitauknow7744 it's canon that the sims 4 is in an alternate universe but the theory tries to explain why that happened, it ties everything together and even makes the sims 4 make sense with the theory

  • @williamedwards4151
    @williamedwards4151 3 місяці тому +2

    I like the idea that Bella got the last laugh and her efforts in the past changed the timeline and resulted in Sims 4 where Bella and her family are fine and the Caliente sisters are still stuck with Don and no longer a threat.

  • @Lil_Why
    @Lil_Why Рік тому +1

    Im so new to the backstories…. It’s blowing my mind! So much information to delve into without getting lost! This is making me fall I love all over again with sims ☺️❤️

  • @nyashiahughes3829
    @nyashiahughes3829 Рік тому +1864

    This actually makes alot of sense considering the sims 4 was labeled as an alternate timeline all together.

    • @WorldWeave
      @WorldWeave Рік тому +52

      Sims 4 is an alternate timeline?

    • @benjaminphelps561
      @benjaminphelps561 Рік тому +56

      You know, i was just gonna ask where sims 4 would fit but that makes a lot of sense

    • @holy8782
      @holy8782 Рік тому +97

      @@WorldWeave Yep, the Sims 4 is in a completely different timeline. Hence why Bella isn't missing in it.

    • @kayquinn9439
      @kayquinn9439 Рік тому +33

      Oh ok so the new timeline bella made

    • @brandongreenland9632
      @brandongreenland9632 Рік тому +43

      Beat me to it- I was originally going to comment this?
      Come to think of it, Bella's death really wasn't in vain, seeing how in the Sims 4, an "Alternate universe" to the older timeline, has its Bella alive and well, even if the Goth family overall are at different ages. If everything is correct, then that means the sisters WERE in fact thwarted by the preparations that Bella made in the past to affect the future, changing the timeline as a whole.

  • @Mysteriofreeflying
    @Mysteriofreeflying Рік тому +1818

    “If a pair of attractive twins shows interest in you be aware it could be aliens”
    Thanks Matpat! I’d keep that in mind.

  • @Vall..TheEmo
    @Vall..TheEmo Рік тому +3

    this hurt my brain- I had to rewatch it 3 times to understand lol, seriously though, how can you explain a 16 year mystery in under 20 minutes, keep it going!

  • @galix_c
    @galix_c Рік тому +3

    There’s SO MUCH sims lore to explore! I’d love more GT episodes please

  • @makaylaserniotti1474
    @makaylaserniotti1474 Рік тому +718

    Wait until we tell him about how the occult sims in the sims 4 interact, werewolves especially have an absurd amount of lore

    • @Oddhowl_GlitchXYT
      @Oddhowl_GlitchXYT Рік тому +20

      I love how they added werewolves, it’s a lot of my sorta style, especially when they’re anthropomorphic

    • @thunderbolt64_
      @thunderbolt64_ Рік тому +1

      theres werewolves?

    • @xeoney
      @xeoney Рік тому +5

      I wonder if he'll be able to come up with a theory, considering most of it is already told through artifacts or in the descriptions of furniture/paintings

    • @MajorBaker-vz9go
      @MajorBaker-vz9go Рік тому +1

      Or our dear leader

  • @Galaxydragonpie
    @Galaxydragonpie Рік тому +688

    It would be interesting to see matpat cover the vampire and werewolf lore. Or even digging into spellcasters. Or about some of the hidden Sims like the hermit that lives in the hidden valley and why they're there.

    • @MajorBaker-vz9go
      @MajorBaker-vz9go Рік тому +32

      How about Jim Pickens

    • @eurovianmutt
      @eurovianmutt Рік тому +8

      Hidden Valley Ranch Dressing lore

    • @Darke_Exelbirth
      @Darke_Exelbirth Рік тому +5

      @@MajorBaker-vz9go The lore of Pickens is a convoluted web, a mystery wrapped in a conundrum, basted in intrigue.

    • @MajorBaker-vz9go
      @MajorBaker-vz9go Рік тому +2

      @@Darke_Exelbirth which makes it perfect for theories.

    • @dylanhodgson7605
      @dylanhodgson7605 Рік тому

      @@Darke_Exelbirth Matpat will end up in the painting basement

  • @alexiasepia2740
    @alexiasepia2740 Рік тому +1

    Matpat you have to dig deeper in sims lore! You'll find so much cool stuff, specially in the spin-offs!!

  • @Kat_dragon
    @Kat_dragon 7 місяців тому +1

    “Golf, to miniature golf.” Guess she’s not as open as we thought

  • @HalluCat
    @HalluCat Рік тому +1100

    Bella also appears in psp version of The Sims. She walks in the small store, disoriented and not remembering anything. But she gives away her house to you. The house with a ghost maid. There is also plot line story about aliens in that game.

    • @ToyotaTacomaOfficial
      @ToyotaTacomaOfficial Рік тому +17

      Lol this is deep

    • @roronoazoroa3052
      @roronoazoroa3052 Рік тому +55

      Finally I found this comment, the house is called Espiritu Estate in Paradise Place and Emily Emory is not a ghost maid, there are 2 ghost in music room and the masters bedroom

    • @HalluCat
      @HalluCat Рік тому +27

      @@roronoazoroa3052 Emily Emory is the third ghost in Espiritu Estate, which is located in Strangetown in PSP version of The Sims 2. She died in 1923.

    • @roronoazoroa3052
      @roronoazoroa3052 Рік тому +8

      @@HalluCat really? So thats why she says that "there are 3 ghosts in this house" and i thought it is Bella Goth and not emily

    • @galicry
      @galicry Рік тому +15

      I RLY THOUGHT THIS VID WAS GONNA TOUCH ON THIS PLOTLINE WHEN I FIRST SAW IT SJDKDSND

  • @beble895
    @beble895 Рік тому +395

    if anyone's interested in a super extensive deep-dive on other sims mysteries, you should check out Plumbella's "entire history of" series!

    • @julia-so5jo
      @julia-so5jo Рік тому +11

      yes! the bella explanation that plumbella made a video on is by FAR my favorite explanation and the one that makes the most sense to me

    • @beble895
      @beble895 Рік тому +5

      @@julia-so5jo I trust Plumbella’s sims lore more than anyone else’s tbh :’)

    • @julia-so5jo
      @julia-so5jo Рік тому

      @@beble895 me too lol

    • @sltrskid
      @sltrskid Рік тому +2

      buh buh buh but she's buh buh british

    • @brandonevans3994
      @brandonevans3994 Рік тому +3

      @@sltrskid yup sorry can’t really trust their theories if their British lol

  • @missCaution8
    @missCaution8 Рік тому +1

    This is an amazing video. You definitely got my sub!

  • @babymagan1993
    @babymagan1993 7 місяців тому

    YOU ARE MY FAVOURITE PERSON THAT MAKES VIDEOS I AM SO GLAD YOU MADE THIS

  • @bare_bear_hands
    @bare_bear_hands Рік тому +999

    In TS4, Nina Caliente is almost always met on the first day you start a game.
    She's actively keeping tabs on everyone in town 🤔

    • @MissSimone02
      @MissSimone02 Рік тому +50

      It depends on where you live. Because when I start a new game in San Myshuno it's just Penny who shows up.

    • @akarimonet
      @akarimonet Рік тому +39

      @@MissSimone02 plot twist penny and Nina working together

    • @MissSimone02
      @MissSimone02 Рік тому +23

      @@akarimonet 😂😂😂 imagine Penny posting it to her like 200k followers is hilarious.

    • @totallynotshort9170
      @totallynotshort9170 10 місяців тому

      ​@@akarimonetoogg

    • @hstochla
      @hstochla 4 місяці тому +1

      The Sims 4 isn’t part of the timeline that the rest of the series is in

  • @MikaelaKMajorHistory
    @MikaelaKMajorHistory Рік тому +652

    Finally MatPat! There’s so much lore in the Sims franchise. Can’t believe you haven’t covered this! (Then again, many many others already have.)

  • @piotrwarrior557
    @piotrwarrior557 Рік тому +7

    He needs to talk about Olive Specter in The Sims 2 and all the tombstones behind her house. (Fun fact: from her name you can make the sentence "i lOve Specter")

  • @StygianNightmare
    @StygianNightmare Рік тому

    Fantastic work as always my guys!! Love this so so so much!

  • @jewelhenson3034
    @jewelhenson3034 Рік тому +874

    Y'know I played a Sims game on the PSP, it was from the 2 generation and the intro shows Bella running away and giving you the keys to her home. It's odd but she's terrified of the town she lives in and no longer wishes to be there. There's ghosts living in the house you receive, and lots of strange things happening. It's interesting to play to say the least.

    • @FriskyFive
      @FriskyFive Рік тому +59

      I played this, I thought it was a fever dream to be honest, I was just about to ask for a theory on that😂

    • @makeupbybabybear5352
      @makeupbybabybear5352 Рік тому +22

      I loved the sims 2 on psp

    • @CaityRaindrop
      @CaityRaindrop Рік тому +45

      The psp version also reveals secrets and 2 of hers are basically that she never loved mortimer and married him for money

    • @athrowawayperson9990
      @athrowawayperson9990 Рік тому +25

      Unfortunately we have confirmation that the spin-off games are non-canon, iirc.

    • @menolade
      @menolade Рік тому +6

      I played that one too. It was really interesting especially the plotline with the robot wife and a cow cult

  • @SuperTigger2012
    @SuperTigger2012 Рік тому +657

    “Bella disappeared without even a dagdag”….welcome to the lore of sims. I’m sooooo here for it!!! 🤩🤩

    • @thaliacrafts407
      @thaliacrafts407 Рік тому +20

      "Dag dag" means "bye bye" in Dutch and I was genuinely confused for a moment

    • @SuperTigger2012
      @SuperTigger2012 Рік тому +16

      @@thaliacrafts407 oh wow, I never knew this! I figured simlish had a bunch of languages and gibberish thrown in together lol.

    • @valenciageode25
      @valenciageode25 Рік тому +4

      The simish caught me by surprise.

    • @ThatNoobKing
      @ThatNoobKing Рік тому +7

      @@SuperTigger2012 oh no
      So simlish is just minion speak

    • @SuperTigger2012
      @SuperTigger2012 Рік тому

      @@ThatNoobKing prettyyyyyyyy SIMilar lolol

  • @margaridaguerreiro802
    @margaridaguerreiro802 Рік тому

    OMG! I just love this theory. Explains everything we'be been so eager to find out.

  • @rominaloves
    @rominaloves 9 місяців тому

    pleaaaaaase do more sims theories !!! there is SO MUCH LORE in the games !!!

  • @nuzhatmaliat9258
    @nuzhatmaliat9258 Рік тому +411

    maybe bella's books in ts3 is what led to her surviving in ts4, so ts4 isnt an alternate universe but an alternate timeline. she avoided the caliente traps via reading those books and getting the hint in childhood (ts3) , so instead of settling in pleasantview where the sisters would come, the couple settled in willow creek, and she convinced mort to take writer career instead of scientist (therefore he wont invent elixir of life and the sisters wont target him). That explains why her ts3 bedroom is so unusually emo/gothic, she knew too many dark stuff for her age (her future tragedy). Not to mention, she's in secret intelligence career in ts4, which now makes more sense bc she prolly needed connections and special info to pull this whole stunt between timeliness to save herself/avoid repercussions for already changing her fate/bust the calientes for their abduction attempts bc normal law enforcement wont believe her

    • @ellyhunter7252
      @ellyhunter7252 Рік тому +5

      Yes!

    • @cpt.mystic_stirling
      @cpt.mystic_stirling Рік тому +6

      The plot thickens

    • @alicemichaelis9468
      @alicemichaelis9468 Рік тому +8

      O.M.G!!
      I haven’t played Sims including Sims 4 in 1.5 years but this video and your comment makes me at least wanna continue with Goth Family lol.

    • @idkbalvan6303
      @idkbalvan6303 Рік тому +4

      but if the ts4 is an alternate timeline, how do you explain the existence of Katrina Caliente, their 'mom'? It might just be that the devs were lazy or the fact that the original creator stepped out of the franchise after EA bought it, but before ts4 Nighat Caliente had always been their mom.

    • @secretlybees
      @secretlybees Рік тому

      This would be cool, but the world Lunar Lakes where Bella was sent was in the future, not the past. Matpat missed that. So, the books probably weren't by her, but could actually be by Alexander Goth if his father married Dina and Alexander somehow ended up with their alien tech.

  • @707Honeypot
    @707Honeypot Рік тому +216

    Im so happy MatPat covered the Sims. It is one of my favorite games and I’d love for him to cover more mysteries from it, like Tragic Clowns, how magic is treated in the sims games, and other fun storylines

  • @starlight4065
    @starlight4065 Рік тому +3

    This is no news to us Simmers. But unfortunately the Sims 4 is in a “alternate universe” than the other games which is disappointing. So the Goths have no story, they’re just nothing.
    Now where’s my Agnes Crumplebottom theory. I’m sure you’ll love that one MatPat. Or the Specter family where the old lady is a literal MURDERER

  • @RockinRoyaltyx3
    @RockinRoyaltyx3 Рік тому +1

    This theory has been out for a bit in the sims community. But I like how concisive and easy to follow this was compared to others who have come to the same conclusion. If you aren't a simmer it might be terribly confusing otherwise. Great video!

  • @DittoAPokemon
    @DittoAPokemon Рік тому +224

    So what’s also important about lunar lakes is it’s actually in the future, ahead of sims 2. And Bella has a descendent in that world.

  • @kingofpilgrims368
    @kingofpilgrims368 Рік тому +211

    I won’t lie, I would take Bella from her house by woo-ing her and convincing her to leave Mortimer on multiple occasions. that pencil thin mustache just always made me see him as a villain 😅

  • @firenomad
    @firenomad Рік тому +5

    This is the best thing I have ever watched! Freaking hilarious and why Goths will always be my favorites lmao

  • @dandelions3
    @dandelions3 Рік тому +7

    As someone who plays the sims 4, I have been blessed even though I am 3 months late

  • @eddyiguess4286
    @eddyiguess4286 Рік тому +243

    Can you please do more Sims theories? Something about the life and history of these simulated games is really incredible with how much depth the creators put into the lore

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      @imbetterlol1670 Рік тому

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      @josephedee4808 Рік тому

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    • @linalokir2178
      @linalokir2178 Рік тому

      @@josephedee4808 truee

  • @reposkull2550
    @reposkull2550 Рік тому +452

    Now we just need matpat to breakdown the lore of the puppet combo games

  • @museumofskulls2972
    @museumofskulls2972 Рік тому

    I'd love to see more Sims theories from you guys!

  • @daynascalone7937
    @daynascalone7937 Рік тому

    The Sim City OG from '89 was and still is one of my favorite. Mmmmm, city planning. Love it!

  • @TimeBucks
    @TimeBucks Рік тому +816

    I'm so happy MatPat covered the Sims

  • @pachunky
    @pachunky Рік тому +398

    OH MY GOD I NEVER THOUGHT YOU’D GUYS EVER COVER THE SIMS

    • @bramvanharen689
      @bramvanharen689 Рік тому +1

      @Thank me later 🅥 SHUT UP

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      @siliyan Рік тому +2

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      @jamangel Рік тому

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    • @jamangel
      @jamangel Рік тому +1

      @Queen haha..wait

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  • @johnathanegbert9277
    @johnathanegbert9277 Рік тому +2

    You should do some videos on SPORE!
    It may have a whole series' worth of lore!

  • @paigelee933
    @paigelee933 Рік тому

    MatPat and my favorite game??!! the blessing I didn’t know I needed😭

  • @CherryCheetah
    @CherryCheetah Рік тому +213

    The Sims 2 had some wild lore - especially the Strangetown sims like Olive Specter and her graveyard garden and secret son who may or may not be the Nervous Subject (there are two of them), or the sim who married alien who abducted her father. But then there's Brandi who got pregnant with her husband after he died. So much to explore!

    • @beccawiegers6454
      @beccawiegers6454 Рік тому +14

      Not to mention Nervous subject's genes being a literal clone of the grim reaper.

  • @drei-rg9zc
    @drei-rg9zc Рік тому +270

    Finally! You made a theory about The Sims. This game has a lot of somewhat hidden lore in the background that I hope to see more theories like this in the future!

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  • @TheOG-GG
    @TheOG-GG 5 місяців тому +1

    Finally you are doing SIMS THEORY! On Sims lore!! FINALLY! Do one on simlish songs too or Simlish itself? :D There is so much more Sims lore to dig through!!

  • @heykatlin
    @heykatlin Рік тому +2

    Please keep doing sims lore the
    Amount within the game is insane!

  • @taylorwalker7417
    @taylorwalker7417 Рік тому +226

    The different mechanics The Sims uses to hide lore is so fun and creative! Plus, there's some surprisingly dark/intricate stuff hidden in those games (Princess Cordelia, Greg and the Occult Wars, and Agnes Crumplebottom to name a few😨) I hope this becomes a regular go-to!

    • @natara2046
      @natara2046 Рік тому +1

      This needs more likes

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    • @davidarvingumazon5024
      @davidarvingumazon5024 Рік тому

      Biggest Lore in Sims: Player tortures Everybody~

    • @davidarvingumazon5024
      @davidarvingumazon5024 Рік тому

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  • @nicknasty6369
    @nicknasty6369 Рік тому +503

    Izzzyzzz recently did a video revolving around Sims lore and Bella goth was a big part of it, the most interesting part is that when you find Bella Goth in Strangetown (Sims 2) her character model is different from the actual Bella Goth, implying that it wasn't actually Bella, but some sort of alien copy that got sent back to Strangetown

    • @CaityRaindrop
      @CaityRaindrop Рік тому +96

      Devs confirmed it to be the same Bella, due to technical issues they couldn't just move her over(trying will cause corruption) so they recreated her and that's why she has differences.

    • @tjgdddfcn
      @tjgdddfcn Рік тому +8

      @@CaityRaindrop didnt she like have her family tree be aliens or something (or maybe it was empty)

    • @Xxurdowg1
      @Xxurdowg1 Рік тому +5

      Plumbella covered this 3 yrs ago! Izzyzzyd vid was a great insisght

    • @davidkonevky7372
      @davidkonevky7372 Рік тому +10

      @@tjgdddfcn Her family tree in strange town is completely empty, so no, no alien stuff

    • @RafaelMunizYT
      @RafaelMunizYT Рік тому +8

      @@CaityRaindrop what if the devs are backing up the caliente twins? I don't know man, we gotta suspect even the devs

  • @Mishlof
    @Mishlof Рік тому

    stumbled across your channel, with this theory...mind blow. Well done

  • @nicolereadstarot
    @nicolereadstarot 8 місяців тому +3

    Who in their right mind thought Sims didn't have theories and mysteries? Obviously never played for sure, that's who.

  • @myr996
    @myr996 Рік тому +527

    Bella is for sure the most known Sims Lore mistery, but there is a LOT more. There is even a channel devoted to it.
    I dare MatPat to uncover Lolita Goth or the hidden cloned misteries

    • @utubepunk
      @utubepunk Рік тому

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    • @tumblingstarmoonchild
      @tumblingstarmoonchild Рік тому +11

      Lolita Goth??? 👀👀👀👀

    • @nova-qs6th
      @nova-qs6th Рік тому +9

      Oh what's the channel name?

    • @adammorin2955
      @adammorin2955 Рік тому +2

      What i want to know is how is bella goth in sims 4? Is sims 4 between 3 and 1 or after 2

    • @jooniesjjk1047
      @jooniesjjk1047 Рік тому +13

      @@adammorin2955 i think EA said the sims 4 is a completely different timeline 😬

  • @MyLyfeThruTheLens
    @MyLyfeThruTheLens Рік тому +153

    There’s so much Sims lore, especially in sims 2 and 3. Like insane amounts of lore. Sims fans have been obsessed for years with the lore.

  • @ZinTyPhoon
    @ZinTyPhoon Рік тому +1

    MatPat: Thinks The Sims has no lore
    Anyone who's ever played a single sims game ever: "Did you even TRY looking?"

  • @Catchingonlinedatersonroblox
    @Catchingonlinedatersonroblox 5 місяців тому

    I love how matpat finishes theory's that have been unsolved for years in a few minutes

  • @KamawnTH
    @KamawnTH Рік тому +1244

    "The average humans pupil grows by 55% if they are excited"
    Matpat when he hears backstory in a no lore game: ⚫ ⚫

  • @tarapogancev
    @tarapogancev Рік тому +461

    I'm so happy the Sims fandom is getting some love! There are plenty of mysteries to discover in the franchise~ Awesome theroy!

    • @sweetnsour78
      @sweetnsour78 9 місяців тому

      I’m replying to this so ppl can see it
      Once I made my sim cook HE HATES COOKING then somthing popped up saying he might hate it and feels like he’s being controlled
      They are getting conscious maybe more lore in sims 5 but all I know is my sim can’t cook😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

  • @anarzchyzz
    @anarzchyzz 6 місяців тому

    This is probably one of the best theories I've seen based off the intro lol 🔥🔥

  • @bayleebrack1852
    @bayleebrack1852 4 місяці тому +3

    Gonna miss this Matt hope your happier tho