freaky : in the sims 3, there is a children's book called "where is Bella?" and also a mystery novel called "Murder in Pleasantview" written by Alexander Goth !!!
Bianca K weird, in ts3 he hadn’t been born yet. It’d be a good idea to put that in the sims 4 and make a continuation. Alexander is an elder, hiding out far away from people after publishing a controversial book about his mother being murdered. Damn I’m mad they got lazy with that one.. one could come up with so many scenarios!
skysplits Actually the theory is that Alexander time traveled^^ as well as Don Lothario is found in Riverview in the Sims 3 his bio reading “Don woke up one morning in a whole new world. He remembers stepping onto a teleporter, several women laughing, then nothing until he found himself here..” So if Don did..then why not Alexander as well? Proves that there must have been a time machine. So they thought it out a little more than you would think. 😉
skysplits Unfortunately, no. :( It has been confirmed by the Sims team that Sims 4 is set in a alternate universe. Makes me sad they got lazy like that. I’m hoping if there is a Sims 5 they continue or finish the storylines
I keep track of memories for my generations family by having sims in the family take pictures in game when something special happens and hang them on the wall. Then when that generation moves on I hang all the pictures in the family restaurant to look back on later. Not the same but still kinda fun
lol its ok i immediately made the connection when sims 3 came out but it was because mortimer was there as her best friend, since mortimer goth is a very special name but bella is very common.
Bella Goth holds a special place in my heart. The first time I loaded up the Sims 1 ever as a kid, I skipped the tutorial and loaded straight into the Goth family. Bella ran into the house and immediately started trying to cook at the stove. Of course, she had no cooking skill so she started a fire and burned to death. As a little kid, this was traumatic (especially after I'd just spent an agonising 4 hours installing this game I had been wanting forever). I cried and turned off the computer without saving. My sims were almost never allowed stoves in their house after that and had to live on salad. 💁🏻♀️ After that experience, I always look after Bella in any way I can.
I always saw the sims 4 as a universe that Bella goth ended up in after getting abducted and she's trying to act normal whilst figuring out how she got there :/
Tbh I loved Bella being in sims 4 with her family I was like when I opened it " Yay mums home!" Idk I grew up with no dad just a mum so I feel sad when people don't have mums even though mine was not the best mum, she past 3 years ago
If The Sims 4 was apart of this timeline it wouldn’t make sense because Cassandra is a young adult and Mortimer isn’t an elder so it would be before she was abducted. Also Nina and Dina’s mother is still alive so yes it would be before.
When my mum and I first played Sims 1, Bella Goth got stuck to our family's floor when visiting and died. We never got to play with her because her urn was just by our door the whole time. The mystery of Bella Goth started early for us.
The first time I played the Bachelors I made the mistake of ignoring Bella's social needs, with the result that she became "desolate" and was seized by the CFS worker. Totally by accident too.
Random fact, there’s an interview with Bella on the sims 2 official website, and it says in it that she is seeing a hypnotist to help her regain her memory, and that she’s starting to remember her family and how much she loves them. It also says that she’s tried before to reunite with her family, but every time she tries, something stops her
In the sims 3 there's a book written by Alexander "Where's Bella?" Aliens are a good answer to Bella's disappearance but I am sure there's much more to it. There are lots of hints of Goths time traveling along the games.
I posted this on another comment, but It could be the effects of Alex somehow being in sims 3 (see: where is Bella? By Alexander goth or murder in pleasant view by Alexander goth) and the effect of that? Like how things changed because Alex wrote those books, or the disappearance never happening Alternate time lines can be a lazy excuse, don't get me wrong, and I wouldn't put it past EA, but sims 4 being nothing like the other games (not same story, diff traits, etc) could be a direct effect of Alex
I have a theory and it's because Bella Goth. Remember the theory that Bella Goth was abducted by aliens? Well, I think the aliens are the creators of the game, because Bella knew they were controlling her, so they kidnapped her, erased all her memories, and put her in a new simulation, like a reboot.
there’s also bella goth in the sims PSP game! she’s in the curio shoppe and talks about being abducted by aliens and needing to run away (though the place she’s selling is very different to any she lives in on the desktop games, so i don’t really know about the timeline of that game in relation to the others? but the house is haunted which is very on brand tbh)
YES! and she's gonna give you her estate in exchange of all your money the time you talk to her about her house. she keeps on saying that her estate was haunted (i think?) (and it really is) (Emily is dead)
I used to spend hours on the sims wiki and reading all the memories and backstories of all the sims. This is why I love sims 2! There’s so much story options!
This makes me dislike sims 4 even more! I love all the storyline and they just were lazy enough not to continue it. I hope sims 5 grabs all these amazing storylines from sims 2 again! 😍
@Jake-Amir Blumenfeldwitz yeah i agree with you, well i do kinda agree with the others for her hair cause ya know shes not a little girl anymore lol but shes kinda not as iconic or recognizable without her pigtails....
I was actually reading about Bella on the official sims wikia page and there's a LOT of other sims games that have her in them. Check the wikia if you're curious.
I have an idea: Why don't you play an alternate version of Bella Goth when Strangerville is released? It is canon that she's been abducted by aliens and ended up in Strangertown then died in Lunar Lakes so what if you played a version of Bella Goth that went through that adventure rather than the Bella in Sims 4? Or you can look into one of my favorite Sims mysteries, Lolita Goth (reference: Chrillsims3)
@@Plumbella I thought it would be fun to see an alternate version of Bella that's been saddened or hardened (depending on which way you want to go. Gloomy trait vs. Hotheaded trait) and see how sad it would be for her to see a version of herself and her family that's actually happy. I'm also looking forward to seeing how you redesign her. Like maybe through all her bad experiences her style leans more towards punk-goth or looks a little more grunge-y. I thought this idea offered a lot of storytelling avenues that you could take advantage of and give your own twist to it.
Such drama keeps some Sims fans playing the games. That is why there's appeal in Strangeville as well. There's a lot of deep lore in those Townies and even the pre-built lots.
If you take a step back and look at the grand scheme of things, it's actually quite plausible. If Dina married Michael, he probably talked about his sister Bella, and how she married his friend Mortimer who is rich. So Dina waited for Michael to die as to not raise suspicion of her cheating, then started making moves on Mortimer with Nina. But they probably didn't arrive in town to meet Mortimer until the eve of Bella's disappearance. My guess is that they had a part in Bella's disappearance because they didn't want her messing with Don and being around when they tried to marry Mortimer. Now, this is where it gets CRAZY. On top of all of this, Don is also connected to Kaylynn Langerak, his maid, because she is a love interest. Kaylynn is connected to the Pleasants, because Daniel (Not Jeff, my bad!) Pleasant woohooed with Kaylynn. The Pleasants also connect with the Brokes because Angela is dating Dustin Broke. And it ALSO connects to the Dreamer family, because Angela's sister Lilith is dating Dirk. The Pleasents connect BACK to the Goths with Mary Sue knowing Cassandra. Back to Dirk Dreamer, his father, Darren, has a crush on Cassandra, and will usually fall in love with her if they have a romantic interaction. These are all the relationships I could think of off of the top of my head.
No sims 4 fits nowhere wince it's own separate timeline. If we say that TS4 is before TS2 than how do we explain Don living with Dina and Nina and their mother. And than in TS2 he is dating both of them
@@Александар-МЈанкоски The family description for the Calientes in Sims 4 flat out states that it used to just be Katrina and her girls until she let her younger boy toy move in to mooch off them, and speculates about whether or not he'll be able to remain faithful to her, or if he'll start getting some side action with her daughters.
I think, when Bella got abducted by Aliens she was held captive for experimentation, and then when the Sims colonized Lunar Lakes (Lunar Lakes is a moon of a planet in the Sims Universe) the Aliens dropped her on that world because her folk was there, and from that point had to continue her life without her family. There's also an NPC on the world named Mathilda Goth, so perhaps she found a new husband and had a new family.
I think the theory that Bella Goth could’ve time travelled or potentially dimension jumped is fascinating to me so I like to believe it. It’s not an impossible theory because in the sims 3 Riverview (the free store world) you can find Don Lothario and his bio says that he time traveled and what not; so I’ve always made the connection that Don very well could’ve disappeared like Bella did later on in the time line.
Plus, sims3 has TWO expansions allowing time-travel. Ambitions has an inventor build one -- (it's a rabbit-hole but you can go to the past) and then there's Sims into the Future that pretty much centers around the idea. Aliens and witches may also play a role here.
I played the sims 2 slot as a kid and I vaguely remember thinking how weird it was that she was missing, but didn't think much of it because I was a child lol. I loved playing in strangetown and was usually playing a sim in that town whenever I played, and I remember seeing bella goth there and thought oh there she is! But I don't think I really cared enough about the mystery itself because again, I was a child playing the sims 2. If only I paid more attention! Lol
Cynthia Valencia I obsessively tried to find ways to get her back, including making a sim to befriend her in stranger town then moving their house into the gallery with them in it, putting it in pleasant view then realized she has no memory and no family tree so reintroducing to her family was pointless. I was sooo sad
@@misspeaches1144 Yeah, I found out that even after I got her back to pleasantview and introduced her to Mortimer, he then had two Bellas in his memories. The other Bella was a totally different sim, as far as the game was concerned.
A fun thing is that the bella goth in strangetown does not match the model of pleasentview bella, i believe its the eye color and skin tone that are different Ive seen theories that strangetown bella is actually like an alien sent down as her but theres no proof of that
Rikkity what if it was the alien’s attempt at cloning a version of Bella but that was the result they got? A clone that looked different from the original Bella Goth
I loved the huge backstories and backgrounds to the townies in the sims 2 , such as the Goths, Ophelia and her aunt , Romeo and Juliet. I miss that, hopefully it will make a return :) Great video! Also please do make a video on the history of Pleasantview etc. :)
When i was little i remember having this theory that since the caliente sisters are half alien and we kind of got a hint that perhaps they had some involvement with bellas disappearance, the aliens that abducted bella were maybe their relatives
Also i could swear to god their used to be an animation of bella goth getting abducted by aliens while don stands next to her and watches in the sims 2,,, like im so confused rn, i deadass always thought everyone saw it. Maybe it was a dream or something i had when i was little. I feel so weird rn, i couldve sworn...
has anyone noticed that in the sims 3 sunset valley in bella bachelor's (goth) house on the balcony outside her room the only thing on it is a telescope. And if you choose to play as the goths in sunset valley, when it loads the only thing mortimer has in his inventory is the Where's Bella? book
I remember being fascinated by Bella in the Sims 2, and I do remember seeing that she was alive but missing and thinking that was weird. I didn't (and still don't really) like desert worlds so I rarely played in Strangetown but when I did, I still remember the moment I saw Bella there and desperately tried to work out how to send her home (which you couldn't do.... god the trauma is still there ksdjfhsd). I moved her into my house and everything to keep an eye on her I was so concerned about her. I found it so interesting though that the Caliente sisters are part alien!!!! They were some of my favourite Sims to play as when I was little and maybe at one time I saw the family tree but didn't understand what it meant so when you said that my mind = blown. Wow
A lot of people may not remember but, in the Sims 2 on PSP, it was all about finding out why there were weird things happening in Strangetown and revealing secrets. When you first get there, you go into a diner and you see Bella Goth crying because she couldn't remember her family or how she got there but she was hiding from the aliens. The only thing she knew was that she liked chocolate. The home where she was living at in that version of Strangetown was being haunted by 3 ghosts. In the game she reveals some secrets. One of them was that she was abducted by aliens and another was that she didn't really love Mortimer and only married him for his money. My theory is that she was abducted and placed in an alternate universe of Strangetown.
Would LOVE more lore vids. I started w the sims 4 so learnin this would be cool af. Didn't realize they all had backstories until the strangerville trailer lol
How is the alien abduction just a "theory" when in Mortimer's memories it literally said she has been abducted by aliens? Plus I once met her in Strangetown back when I played The Sims 2. I talked to her and wanted to make her come back to Mortimer but she just left after our conversation and never appeared again.
i’ve seen a theory that Alexander went back and time and wrote a book called “murder in pleasant view” which Bella had in her inventory in Sims 3, and that some how stoped bella from being abducted and sims 4 is what would have happened if bella was never abducted.
Rewatching this after hearing that a sim guru confirmed that Bella was supposed to have been abducted & appear in Strange Town instead. but the game glitched and she didn't show up so they just rolled with it. Love how spot on you were and the details of your investigation! ❤️
I had no idea the town's in sims 3 are different timelines. that would explain why when you move time everything get wiped (friendships, relationships, job/school history etc)
Hi so a LONG time ago when I still played with sims 2 townies i played the goth house and I don't remember if I was at their house or Don's but Bella came back, she was dropped by a spaceship at the front door. Idk if anyone ever got that event happening but it did to me. Basically she didn't died, she was kidnapped by aliens. I can't believe no one has ever mentioned this yet so i just thought I'd put it out there. (edit) i just saw a fan made vid about her returning the way i just explained but it's fake, but i swear it legit happened in my game. it was a long time ago but i remember it happening. Has this ever happened to anyone else?
I'm a pretty new sim player, played 3 a little but mostly got into 4, so if you continued this kind of series doing the histories of the base game sims and worlds I'd be very interested to learn all the game lore. I loved this video. Thanks!
Bella is a secret agent in TS4, which is supposed to be the period of time before she vanished in TS2, maybe she went on a super secret mission to investigate what was going on in Strangetown and something went wrong...maybe she was kidnapped by the mad scientist with the Caliente sisters assistance and had her memories erased
Loved this! Definitely do one for the Landgraabs. I played the sims 3 on ps4 and only really got into the sims with sims 4 so I know nothing about these backstories that some families have.
That is so sad :/ I really love Bella and the Goth family and I think you’re right, but I believe that the history is not finished and we’ll see more maybe in the sims 5 I think
Love Bella. She is and has been my favorite since 2000 as well. If they do something to wrap up her story I would love it!!!!! Thanks for the theories; they definitely are good ones.
There’s a sims 2 for PSP, there you can actually meet bella and learn a few of her secrets in strangetown and basically she tells you that she got married for money and that shes running away because she got abducted by aliens, then she sells you her house which is the Espiritu Estate (not exactly sure about the name) which is haunted by ghosts. I always thought that was a fun little easter egg
Honestly Bella Goth is one of my favourite characters of all time... her design, her personality, the aura of mystery surrounding her? Plus when I played the Sims 2 as a kid and I saw her walking around Strangetown I was SHOOKETH
yeah a while back I decided to play as the goth family in ts3. played around a bit mostly w mom & dad but when I clicked on mortimer's inventory he had only a baseball and a book titled "Where's Bella?" ... the sobbing that day...
I have a theory...I remember in strangervillege, in sims 4, the alien plants made people go insane and they started saying "OUR MOTHER LOOKS LOVELY IN RED" and kept saying how beautiful she was. Bella has bell which means beautiful and the fact that the plants made people say how lovely "mother" looks in red might mean that the aliens might of did some freaky experiment with Bella's dna and produced it in another dimension which is the alternate one of sims 4...
Idk if anyone played the sims 2 on play station portable but it took place in strangetown and Bella Goth was actually in a gas station in there. I remember she used to constantly talk about aliens in a worried way, Idk if it was after her abduction or before but i think she probably got abducted and then the aliens took her to strangetown and erased her memory or something so she didn’t know how to get back to her family. She would constantly run around in the gas station and tell scary things about aliens to whoever she could find. Her story is definitely something else😄
Please please do more informational videos. I enjoy being able to play into a storyline! You're videos are helpful in doing so as sims 4 veers away from that.
How have I been playing the sims since I was like 5 and never noticed that Bella bachelor was Bella goth?? I PLAYED THAT FAMILY EVERY TIME!! skrirkendidkisoo
I know you're not looking into the console games but The Sims 2 for PSP is a heavily story-based (albeit short) RPG that takes places solely in Strangetown, and Bella Goth resides there as a paranoid woman in a gas station. The game explicitly tells you that Bella was abducted by aliens as one of her Friendly interaction secrets.
Yes! These videos are SUPER helpful! I didn't even know there was continuation aside from a few recognisable family names throughout the games! I'm definitely going to be watching them all! Thank you so much!!
I’ve played since sims 2 and I always just thought all these characters were randomly generated to fill out the towns. You and you alone have got me interested in all these stories now I’m going down a rabbit hole of all your videos explaining back stories and I LOVE IT!!
I've only played Sims 4 and Bella Goth is my favorite Sim in the game. You've made me really said by saying that she dies in the Sims 3. Ugh! I'm just gonna ignore those facts and got by what Bella is in the Sims 4. Bella ... we'll always have Willow Creek. My theory that I posted in the Conspiracy video is that Mortimer was a Young Adult and Bella was a teenager when they had Cassandra going by their ages in the Sims 4. That could still be true but doesn't jive with the probable closeness of their ages as kids. So perhaps Bella was abducted by aliens and STOPPED AGEING while with them. She then returned the same age as when she left but everyone else had aged. That also may not jive with the history in the other Sims games.
Alexander Goth wrote the book about Bella Goth and transported it to the Sims 3 to warn Bella. Hence, Bella and Mortimer are living happily ever after in the Sims 4.
VickyV according to the Sims wiki, it's because of all the inconsistencies in the storylines, so they kind of started over with some existing households.
Crazy thought but what if since Bella is confirmed dead in Lunar Lakes, she became aware of how she was abducted/kidnapped in StrangeTown, she tried to get back to her old life in Sims 3 before everything happened/to warn her past self and mistakenly went to Lunar Lakes, got trapped there by the alien connections and lived there until she was old and died
I wish Sims 4 was like 25 years later or something. And the mystery for simmers can be solved if they look deep enough. They could have included some red herrings. Like a dead body they thought was bella being found and the mystery in the sims universe being ”solved” it was an accident. But in actuality it was just an impostor and cassandra never accepted the fact that her mother died in that accident as it would be out of her character or something. So she enters the science career to find the answers. (Cough aliens cough)
I find it so weird that Bella dated Don which is her DAUGHTERS HUSBAND and Dina dated Bella's brother and Cassandra's husband too. Her 'aunt' and mum were tryna get with her man!
i love the sims 4, but i wish they continued the story they started with the previous sims games...or at least started another storyline that had just as much depth and little details. it’s the biggest thing the sims 4 is lacking in my opinion. i absolutely love the connect between the sims 1,2 and 3. that was the biggest disappointment about the sims 4 for me.
Fun Fact: At the start of Sims 4, Bella is 35 years, 2 months, 2 days, 2 hours, 22 minutes and 42 seconds old in the Sims 4 Explanation: (Keep in mind I don't actually HAVE the sims so if I get some terms wrong sorry) On normal lifespan adults live for 29 days. At the start of the game Bella Goth is 24 days away from being an elder. If you turn into an adult at 30 and you turn into an elder at 60, that's 30 years over 29 days. 30/29 = 1.03448276 So, each day (as an adult) is 1.03448276 years (1 year, 1 week, 5 days, 14 hours, 16 minutes and 10 seconds)
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@@Olivia-yi5um hahahaha thank you so much! X I will hopefully do a video in the next few weeks! If Jesse lets me lol x
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Bella Goth IS the sims.
Abella right
WE NEED HER IN TEH SIMS 5 AND STICK TO THE JUICY MYSTERY
Shes on the sin of strange town
Alisia Williams there’s a sims 5
Abella YESSS
freaky : in the sims 3, there is a children's book called "where is Bella?" and also a mystery novel called "Murder in Pleasantview" written by Alexander Goth !!!
Bianca K weird, in ts3 he hadn’t been born yet. It’d be a good idea to put that in the sims 4 and make a continuation. Alexander is an elder, hiding out far away from people after publishing a controversial book about his mother being murdered. Damn I’m mad they got lazy with that one.. one could come up with so many scenarios!
skysplits Actually the theory is that Alexander time traveled^^ as well as Don Lothario is found in Riverview in the Sims 3 his bio reading “Don woke up one morning in a whole new world. He remembers stepping onto a teleporter, several women laughing, then nothing until he found himself here..” So if Don did..then why not Alexander as well? Proves that there must have been a time machine. So they thought it out a little more than you would think. 😉
Cassie I didn’t know that, but it seems pretty cool. But I don’t think they did that in ts4 right?
skysplits Unfortunately, no. :( It has been confirmed by the Sims team that Sims 4 is set in a alternate universe. Makes me sad they got lazy like that. I’m hoping if there is a Sims 5 they continue or finish the storylines
Omg i never thought of that!
I really wish memories were still in the Sims 4. It added to the stories!
Technically you can attach a memory to the screen shots you take of your sims
Bunny Clops Not the same at all mate.
Megan Rose the slice of life mod has a memory system
The ghost In the mirror yeah but it glitches like hell
I keep track of memories for my generations family by having sims in the family take pictures in game when something special happens and hang them on the wall. Then when that generation moves on I hang all the pictures in the family restaurant to look back on later. Not the same but still kinda fun
The Sims 5 should be, the return of Bella Goth! And the story behind what actually happened
And cars
Not You and universityyyy
I never played University before
Not You
What?
Not You
Ohhhhh ok
in sims 2, one of Cassandra’s memories is ‘Bella Goth got abducted by aliens’
alana jorja in sims 2 bella is alive in aliens lot
@@zeynozeynep2656 whats the alien lots?
As someone who literally went from only playing sims 1 to sims 4, I'm astounded by anything that comes from 2 or 3. So much variability.
@@karenfromfinasse8430 the sims 2 especially. all the backstories and stuff... it really made it special
In Sims 2 for PSP Bella Goth was actually abducted by aliens and lost her mind so she’s stuck at a gas station in the middle of nothing.
How have I been a Sims fan for like 13 years and NEVER made the connection, that Bella Bachelor was Bella Goth as a kid???
RIGHT?! I DIDN'T EITHER!! I had no fking idea. My mind was blown, sis.
Yes I didn’t even know sims 3 was the earliest in the timeline 😂😂
What. You never knew?
lol its ok i immediately made the connection when sims 3 came out but it was because mortimer was there as her best friend, since mortimer goth is a very special name but bella is very common.
annikabeiche I’m stunned that you don’t know this 😂
Bella Goth holds a special place in my heart. The first time I loaded up the Sims 1 ever as a kid, I skipped the tutorial and loaded straight into the Goth family. Bella ran into the house and immediately started trying to cook at the stove. Of course, she had no cooking skill so she started a fire and burned to death. As a little kid, this was traumatic (especially after I'd just spent an agonising 4 hours installing this game I had been wanting forever). I cried and turned off the computer without saving. My sims were almost never allowed stoves in their house after that and had to live on salad. 💁🏻♀️ After that experience, I always look after Bella in any way I can.
okayjessjess tragic
@@emmab.6296 clown
Craigmeister999 okay?
@@emmab.6296 No I mean Tragic Clown. A character in The Sims series.
Craigmeister999 oh lol. Okay
I always saw the sims 4 as a universe that Bella goth ended up in after getting abducted and she's trying to act normal whilst figuring out how she got there :/
thunDaClap01 I agree!!
Tbh I loved Bella being in sims 4 with her family I was like when I opened it " Yay mums home!" Idk I grew up with no dad just a mum so I feel sad when people don't have mums even though mine was not the best mum, she past 3 years ago
and maybe she’s a secret agent to help people like her but she parties 24/7 to cope with the trauma
omg thats my headcanon now i wont change it-
If The Sims 4 was apart of this timeline it wouldn’t make sense because Cassandra is a young adult and Mortimer isn’t an elder so it would be before she was abducted. Also Nina and Dina’s mother is still alive so yes it would be before.
When my mum and I first played Sims 1, Bella Goth got stuck to our family's floor when visiting and died. We never got to play with her because her urn was just by our door the whole time.
The mystery of Bella Goth started early for us.
Beth Paige 😂😂amazing
LOL
The first time I played the Bachelors I made the mistake of ignoring Bella's social needs, with the result that she became "desolate" and was seized by the CFS worker. Totally by accident too.
Random fact, there’s an interview with Bella on the sims 2 official website, and it says in it that she is seeing a hypnotist to help her regain her memory, and that she’s starting to remember her family and how much she loves them. It also says that she’s tried before to reunite with her family, but every time she tries, something stops her
DUN DUUN DUUUUUUUUNNNNNN!!!!!
In the sims 3 there's a book written by Alexander "Where's Bella?"
Aliens are a good answer to Bella's disappearance but I am sure there's much more to it. There are lots of hints of Goths time traveling along the games.
There's another book called Murder in pleasantview written by Alexander goth in sims 3
OMG I'VE BEEN PLAYING THE SIMS 3 FOR YEARSSS AND NEVER CONNECTED THAT WHAT
@Sugas rap got me pregnant He is a time traveler
Sims 4 is an alternate timeline because ea got lazy. They ruined such an intriguing story.
They didn’t get lazy I think they put a lot of effort- but I didn’t play the sims before sims 4 so idk
I posted this on another comment, but
It could be the effects of Alex somehow being in sims 3 (see: where is Bella? By Alexander goth or murder in pleasant view by Alexander goth) and the effect of that? Like how things changed because Alex wrote those books, or the disappearance never happening
Alternate time lines can be a lazy excuse, don't get me wrong, and I wouldn't put it past EA, but sims 4 being nothing like the other games (not same story, diff traits, etc) could be a direct effect of Alex
I have a theory and it's because Bella Goth.
Remember the theory that Bella Goth was abducted by aliens? Well, I think the aliens are the creators of the game, because Bella knew they were controlling her, so they kidnapped her, erased all her memories, and put her in a new simulation, like a reboot.
@@wtfisthis96 this is also a great theory
there’s also bella goth in the sims PSP game! she’s in the curio shoppe and talks about being abducted by aliens and needing to run away (though the place she’s selling is very different to any she lives in on the desktop games, so i don’t really know about the timeline of that game in relation to the others? but the house is haunted which is very on brand tbh)
YAS! I came to comment the same thing
Facts
That game is a GEM. So so so good.
YES! and she's gonna give you her estate in exchange of all your money the time you talk to her about her house. she keeps on saying that her estate was haunted (i think?) (and it really is) (Emily is dead)
I'm guessing it's during the Sims 2 on PC since she looks the exact same way as she did when she was last seen
I used to spend hours on the sims wiki and reading all the memories and backstories of all the sims. This is why I love sims 2! There’s so much story options!
This makes me dislike sims 4 even more! I love all the storyline and they just were lazy enough not to continue it. I hope sims 5 grabs all these amazing storylines from sims 2 again! 😍
Sims 4 is just before sims 2 storyline
@@jadeiswhom But it's in an alternate timeline so it doesnt really matter
same
cassandras hair i sims 2 gets me every time hahahah
First thing I always change on her - the hair.
well me on the other hand i dont get bothered by it cause its kinda? iconic? and i like cass the way she is LOL
@Jake-Amir Blumenfeldwitz yeah i agree with you, well i do kinda agree with the others for her hair cause ya know shes not a little girl anymore lol but shes kinda not as iconic or recognizable without her pigtails....
I think the biggest thing I learned from this video is that Cassandra is innocent in all of this and needs to be talked about more.
Evan Walsh YES
Also Alexander, definitely Alexander, it says that Bella was abducted when he was a baby.
caliente means 'hot' in spanish btw
or horny... i am an spanish speaker and always when i hear the Caliente sisters i think that they're saying the horny sisters BSSDBFIDJSN
Hahha lol I didn’t learn that in Spanish class 😂😂😂
They aren't even hot in Sims 4 but they were in Sims 2
DJX Flick they were so messy in the Sims 2 lmao
lol perrito caliente that’s what i think of when i hear dina caliente
I was actually reading about Bella on the official sims wikia page and there's a LOT of other sims games that have her in them. Check the wikia if you're curious.
“God bless Cassandra. The real victim in this.” 😂😂
I have an idea: Why don't you play an alternate version of Bella Goth when Strangerville is released? It is canon that she's been abducted by aliens and ended up in Strangertown then died in Lunar Lakes so what if you played a version of Bella Goth that went through that adventure rather than the Bella in Sims 4? Or you can look into one of my favorite Sims mysteries, Lolita Goth (reference: Chrillsims3)
Savannah Goodwin oh my good god i’ve been struggling to think of an idea for my strangerville series and this is it. thank you so much
@@Plumbella I thought it would be fun to see an alternate version of Bella that's been saddened or hardened (depending on which way you want to go. Gloomy trait vs. Hotheaded trait) and see how sad it would be for her to see a version of herself and her family that's actually happy. I'm also looking forward to seeing how you redesign her. Like maybe through all her bad experiences her style leans more towards punk-goth or looks a little more grunge-y. I thought this idea offered a lot of storytelling avenues that you could take advantage of and give your own twist to it.
Oh my God I adore him!!!
Yes do a Landgraab video please !!
Bella Goth is veryyy iconic for the sims❤️
why are the goths and calientes/lotharios so involved with each other???
thanks for the likes and replies
Such drama keeps some Sims fans playing the games. That is why there's appeal in Strangeville as well. There's a lot of deep lore in those Townies and even the pre-built lots.
If you take a step back and look at the grand scheme of things, it's actually quite plausible. If Dina married Michael, he probably talked about his sister Bella, and how she married his friend Mortimer who is rich. So Dina waited for Michael to die as to not raise suspicion of her cheating, then started making moves on Mortimer with Nina. But they probably didn't arrive in town to meet Mortimer until the eve of Bella's disappearance. My guess is that they had a part in Bella's disappearance because they didn't want her messing with Don and being around when they tried to marry Mortimer. Now, this is where it gets CRAZY. On top of all of this, Don is also connected to Kaylynn Langerak, his maid, because she is a love interest. Kaylynn is connected to the Pleasants, because Daniel (Not Jeff, my bad!) Pleasant woohooed with Kaylynn. The Pleasants also connect with the Brokes because Angela is dating Dustin Broke. And it ALSO connects to the Dreamer family, because Angela's sister Lilith is dating Dirk. The Pleasents connect BACK to the Goths with Mary Sue knowing Cassandra. Back to Dirk Dreamer, his father, Darren, has a crush on Cassandra, and will usually fall in love with her if they have a romantic interaction. These are all the relationships I could think of off of the top of my head.
@@exist_much5625 All true but the father of Lilith and Angela is Daniel.
@@1rarestar MY KNOWLEDGE FAILED MEEEE
@@exist_much5625 everyone makes mistakes lol
Why is Bella Goth the prettiest Sim ever? She is goals.
Sims 3: bella as a kid
Sims 1: bella has one kid
Sims 4: two kids before the disappearance
Sims 2: shes disappeared
Sims 5: to be continued
No sims 4 fits nowhere wince it's own separate timeline. If we say that TS4 is before TS2 than how do we explain Don living with Dina and Nina and their mother. And than in TS2 he is dating both of them
@@Александар-МЈанкоски The family description for the Calientes in Sims 4 flat out states that it used to just be Katrina and her girls until she let her younger boy toy move in to mooch off them, and speculates about whether or not he'll be able to remain faithful to her, or if he'll start getting some side action with her daughters.
Maybe Alexander goth time travel to save his mom
I'm hoping StrangerVille will give us more mysterious families and not just "find the cure for the disease."
There is the Roswell family
"find the cure for the disease."
is exactly what we got fam
This comment have not aged well
_Oh._
we got dissatisfied yet afain
I think, when Bella got abducted by Aliens she was held captive for experimentation, and then when the Sims colonized Lunar Lakes (Lunar Lakes is a moon of a planet in the Sims Universe) the Aliens dropped her on that world because her folk was there, and from that point had to continue her life without her family. There's also an NPC on the world named Mathilda Goth, so perhaps she found a new husband and had a new family.
If she remarried she wouldn't be a Goth anymore.
Remember in marriage you can choose whos surname you wish to inherit
I think the theory that Bella Goth could’ve time travelled or potentially dimension jumped is fascinating to me so I like to believe it. It’s not an impossible theory because in the sims 3 Riverview (the free store world) you can find Don Lothario and his bio says that he time traveled and what not; so I’ve always made the connection that Don very well could’ve disappeared like Bella did later on in the time line.
Plus, sims3 has TWO expansions allowing time-travel. Ambitions has an inventor build one -- (it's a rabbit-hole but you can go to the past) and then there's Sims into the Future that pretty much centers around the idea. Aliens and witches may also play a role here.
I played the sims 2 slot as a kid and I vaguely remember thinking how weird it was that she was missing, but didn't think much of it because I was a child lol. I loved playing in strangetown and was usually playing a sim in that town whenever I played, and I remember seeing bella goth there and thought oh there she is! But I don't think I really cared enough about the mystery itself because again, I was a child playing the sims 2. If only I paid more attention! Lol
Cynthia Valencia I obsessively tried to find ways to get her back, including making a sim to befriend her in stranger town then moving their house into the gallery with them in it, putting it in pleasant view then realized she has no memory and no family tree so reintroducing to her family was pointless. I was sooo sad
@@misspeaches1144 I wish I had tried! I was too busy with don lothario apparently lol
@@misspeaches1144 Yeah, I found out that even after I got her back to pleasantview and introduced her to Mortimer, he then had two Bellas in his memories. The other Bella was a totally different sim, as far as the game was concerned.
@@eshbena yeah that bella is a clone
A fun thing is that the bella goth in strangetown does not match the model of pleasentview bella, i believe its the eye color and skin tone that are different
Ive seen theories that strangetown bella is actually like an alien sent down as her but theres no proof of that
Rikkity what if it was the alien’s attempt at cloning a version of Bella but that was the result they got? A clone that looked different from the original Bella Goth
I loved the huge backstories and backgrounds to the townies in the sims 2 , such as the Goths, Ophelia and her aunt , Romeo and Juliet. I miss that, hopefully it will make a return :)
Great video! Also please do make a video on the history of Pleasantview etc. :)
When i was little i remember having this theory that since the caliente sisters are half alien and we kind of got a hint that perhaps they had some involvement with bellas disappearance, the aliens that abducted bella were maybe their relatives
Also i could swear to god their used to be an animation of bella goth getting abducted by aliens while don stands next to her and watches in the sims 2,,, like im so confused rn, i deadass always thought everyone saw it. Maybe it was a dream or something i had when i was little. I feel so weird rn, i couldve sworn...
@@kendalroyco it exists
Rex Bair how do you see the animation
C(alien)te
Played The Sims 2 so much that while playing the game, the Aliens brought back Bella Goth. She was abducted by the Aliens. LMAO
Cha Samot tell me more
Please tell me more
How is that even possible thoo can u tell us
pls tell more
Omg really? 😮😮😮
has anyone noticed that in the sims 3 sunset valley in bella bachelor's (goth) house on the balcony outside her room the only thing on it is a telescope. And if you choose to play as the goths in sunset valley, when it loads the only thing mortimer has in his inventory is the Where's Bella? book
I remember being fascinated by Bella in the Sims 2, and I do remember seeing that she was alive but missing and thinking that was weird. I didn't (and still don't really) like desert worlds so I rarely played in Strangetown but when I did, I still remember the moment I saw Bella there and desperately tried to work out how to send her home (which you couldn't do.... god the trauma is still there ksdjfhsd). I moved her into my house and everything to keep an eye on her I was so concerned about her.
I found it so interesting though that the Caliente sisters are part alien!!!! They were some of my favourite Sims to play as when I was little and maybe at one time I saw the family tree but didn't understand what it meant so when you said that my mind = blown. Wow
i didn't know there was a sims story line. I just played to kill my sims in the pool
lol A friend of mine killed so many townies that his house's fence was just tombstones lining his lot.
Lol
A lot of people may not remember but, in the Sims 2 on PSP, it was all about finding out why there were weird things happening in Strangetown and revealing secrets. When you first get there, you go into a diner and you see Bella Goth crying because she couldn't remember her family or how she got there but she was hiding from the aliens. The only thing she knew was that she liked chocolate. The home where she was living at in that version of Strangetown was being haunted by 3 ghosts. In the game she reveals some secrets. One of them was that she was abducted by aliens and another was that she didn't really love Mortimer and only married him for his money. My theory is that she was abducted and placed in an alternate universe of Strangetown.
Now i feel bad for always homewrecking the Goth family
I'd love more of these timeline/origin videos, awesome video!
WAIT! wasn’t michael bachelor the urn that was in Dina and Nina’s house in the sims2?!? i swear it was!!! omg that could be a crazy theory if so
Didn’t Don get pushed into a time machine by the sisters and end up in the sims 3? What if the same thing happened to Bella?
Cole Cooper where did you get that from?
kelso alonso i think the world name is Riverview? Check Don Lothario’s family bio for it
@@bobbygrey7269 Yeah, his last memory before waking up was the sisters laughing and pushing him into a time travel machine. LOL
I honestly convince myself that the goth family is the Adams family. 🤦🏽♀️😩
They’re based off the Addams family
I feel bad for convincing mortimer to leave bella so my sim could marry him for his money
Well. Y'all already know what happened with Berleezy. Also why is he hitting her and stuff?
Would LOVE more lore vids. I started w the sims 4 so learnin this would be cool af. Didn't realize they all had backstories until the strangerville trailer lol
Teddy Manning me too! I’m a newish sims player so would really like some more back stories.
How did I never know that the Calientes have alien ancestry?
Ivy May RIGHT
Ivy May C(alien)te
@@waIIflower oh my goodness, you genius!
How is the alien abduction just a "theory" when in Mortimer's memories it literally said she has been abducted by aliens? Plus I once met her in Strangetown back when I played The Sims 2. I talked to her and wanted to make her come back to Mortimer but she just left after our conversation and never appeared again.
Kaya K. I’ve met her too in sims 2! I got her to move in and everything 🤗 But that was my first time in 15+ years to meet her
I found her at the pool on mine while playing the Smiths
I can’t get enough of Bella Goth’s story lol
Love how much you clearly love Sims 2 🧡 will always have a special place in my heart too!
I went and listened to the whole song of your intro song and it's so good!!! 💖🌟
i’ve seen a theory that Alexander went back and time and wrote a book called “murder in pleasant view” which Bella had in her inventory in Sims 3, and that some how stoped bella from being abducted and sims 4 is what would have happened if bella was never abducted.
Omg I love this theory!!!
i love your editing omg
Me too. Always cracks me up. Specially love her interjections in the middle of editing hahah
some say the alternate timeline in sims 4 is because alexander went back in time, published the murder mystery and changed the timeline
In the Sims 2 PSP Bella Goth sells her house and is scared of aliens.
Rewatching this after hearing that a sim guru confirmed that Bella was supposed to have been abducted & appear in Strange Town instead. but the game glitched and she didn't show up so they just rolled with it. Love how spot on you were and the details of your investigation! ❤️
I had no idea the town's in sims 3 are different timelines. that would explain why when you move time everything get wiped (friendships, relationships, job/school history etc)
The Bella Goth in Strangetown has a different facial structure. There is still a Bella Goth in Pleasantview.
Hi so a LONG time ago when I still played with sims 2 townies i played the goth house and I don't remember if I was at their house or Don's but Bella came back, she was dropped by a spaceship at the front door. Idk if anyone ever got that event happening but it did to me. Basically she didn't died, she was kidnapped by aliens. I can't believe no one has ever mentioned this yet so i just thought I'd put it out there.
(edit) i just saw a fan made vid about her returning the way i just explained but it's fake, but i swear it legit happened in my game. it was a long time ago but i remember it happening. Has this ever happened to anyone else?
No but i wish it would happen :O really cool. Did she have the memories?
It happened to me I swear
I remember that too but I feel like it must’ve been a UA-cam video I watched Cus there’s no way it’s real 🥴
I'm a pretty new sim player, played 3 a little but mostly got into 4, so if you continued this kind of series doing the histories of the base game sims and worlds I'd be very interested to learn all the game lore. I loved this video. Thanks!
Bella is a secret agent in TS4, which is supposed to be the period of time before she vanished in TS2, maybe she went on a super secret mission to investigate what was going on in Strangetown and something went wrong...maybe she was kidnapped by the mad scientist with the Caliente sisters assistance and had her memories erased
I love this! Please make more character profiles of the other sims that we've seen in the games ♥️
Loved this! Definitely do one for the Landgraabs. I played the sims 3 on ps4 and only really got into the sims with sims 4 so I know nothing about these backstories that some families have.
That is so sad :/ I really love Bella and the Goth family and I think you’re right, but I believe that the history is not finished and we’ll see more maybe in the sims 5 I think
These are my fav types of videos from youu! Please do that one about the Landgraabs ♥
I always thought it was aliens but I don’t think it’ll be aliens in Strangerville since we already have them. Military mind control, maybe?
Don't say that u might get shot by the government 😂😂 jk
Something to do with “mother”
I thought something like stranger things
Love Bella. She is and has been my favorite since 2000 as well. If they do something to wrap up her story I would love it!!!!! Thanks for the theories; they definitely are good ones.
There’s a sims 2 for PSP, there you can actually meet bella and learn a few of her secrets in strangetown and basically she tells you that she got married for money and that shes running away because she got abducted by aliens, then she sells you her house which is the Espiritu Estate (not exactly sure about the name) which is haunted by ghosts. I always thought that was a fun little easter egg
Honestly Bella Goth is one of my favourite characters of all time... her design, her personality, the aura of mystery surrounding her? Plus when I played the Sims 2 as a kid and I saw her walking around Strangetown I was SHOOKETH
yeah a while back I decided to play as the goth family in ts3. played around a bit mostly w mom & dad but when I clicked on mortimer's inventory he had only a baseball and a book titled "Where's Bella?" ... the sobbing that day...
I have a theory...I remember in strangervillege, in sims 4, the alien plants made people go insane and they started saying "OUR MOTHER LOOKS LOVELY IN RED" and kept saying how beautiful she was. Bella has bell which means beautiful and the fact that the plants made people say how lovely "mother" looks in red might mean that the aliens might of did some freaky experiment with Bella's dna and produced it in another dimension which is the alternate one of sims 4...
Idk if anyone played the sims 2 on play station portable but it took place in strangetown and Bella Goth was actually in a gas station in there. I remember she used to constantly talk about aliens in a worried way, Idk if it was after her abduction or before but i think she probably got abducted and then the aliens took her to strangetown and erased her memory or something so she didn’t know how to get back to her family. She would constantly run around in the gas station and tell scary things about aliens to whoever she could find. Her story is definitely something else😄
Sims 3 book: where is Bella? :)
10 yo Bella Goth: what the fuck
Please please do more informational videos. I enjoy being able to play into a storyline! You're videos are helpful in doing so as sims 4 veers away from that.
How have I been playing the sims since I was like 5 and never noticed that Bella bachelor was Bella goth?? I PLAYED THAT FAMILY EVERY TIME!! skrirkendidkisoo
I know you're not looking into the console games but The Sims 2 for PSP is a heavily story-based (albeit short) RPG that takes places solely in Strangetown, and Bella Goth resides there as a paranoid woman in a gas station. The game explicitly tells you that Bella was abducted by aliens as one of her Friendly interaction secrets.
There's a book in The Sims 3 called "Where's Bella?" I wonder if that is referring to Bella Goth.
Xan Shipstew it is!
In Sims 2 for the PSP you can find Bella wandering in the Desert. All confused and really looking tired.
Someone should make a Pretty Little Liars style show surrounding Bella's disappearance omg
Looking back at old videos and you seem so much more confident now xx fair play :)
Who is Shane Dawson... I only know Plumbella haah
Yes! These videos are SUPER helpful! I didn't even know there was continuation aside from a few recognisable family names throughout the games! I'm definitely going to be watching them all! Thank you so much!!
Did anyone used to play the Sims 2 DS game? It was set in Strangetown and I was wondering if the Strangerville pack is related in any way?
Megan Flower i thought it is more related to stranger things 🤔
love that game and still have it. i don’t have the strangerville pack, but that game was insane. so was sims 2 psp
I’ve played since sims 2 and I always just thought all these characters were randomly generated to fill out the towns. You and you alone have got me interested in all these stories now I’m going down a rabbit hole of all your videos explaining back stories and I LOVE IT!!
I've only played Sims 4 and Bella Goth is my favorite Sim in the game. You've made me really said by saying that she dies in the Sims 3. Ugh! I'm just gonna ignore those facts and got by what Bella is in the Sims 4. Bella ... we'll always have Willow Creek.
My theory that I posted in the Conspiracy video is that Mortimer was a Young Adult and Bella was a teenager when they had Cassandra going by their ages in the Sims 4. That could still be true but doesn't jive with the probable closeness of their ages as kids. So perhaps Bella was abducted by aliens and STOPPED AGEING while with them. She then returned the same age as when she left but everyone else had aged. That also may not jive with the history in the other Sims games.
Alexander Goth wrote the book about Bella Goth and transported it to the Sims 3 to warn Bella. Hence, Bella and Mortimer are living happily ever after in the Sims 4.
I mean creators even added the book “Where is Bella?” in Sims 3. We have to appreciate this cute little hint
Also! Sims 2 on PSP your whole mission thing was to find Bella as she got abducted by aliens!
Please do more videos on character backstories like this!
I love how you did that insert with your hair wrapped in a towel and a bathrobe. Subscribed.
Wait why is TS4 considered alternative universe ? I always thought TS4 was set in a time before Bella disappearance
VickyV according to the Sims wiki, it's because of all the inconsistencies in the storylines, so they kind of started over with some existing households.
That wouldn’t make sense cause Alexander is older in ts4 and in ts2 he is a kid
@@wybie3640 He's a kid in both TS2 and TS4.
@@maanorchidee because of the messed up timeline
Crazy thought but what if since Bella is confirmed dead in Lunar Lakes, she became aware of how she was abducted/kidnapped in StrangeTown, she tried to get back to her old life in Sims 3 before everything happened/to warn her past self and mistakenly went to Lunar Lakes, got trapped there by the alien connections and lived there until she was old and died
Maybe strangerville will have a lot of those Easter eggs in it. Hopefully they do bc that will make older players more interested
LOVED this video! Love the stories from default Sims. Well done! 🙂
I wish Sims 4 was like 25 years later or something. And the mystery for simmers can be solved if they look deep enough. They could have included some red herrings. Like a dead body they thought was bella being found and the mystery in the sims universe being ”solved” it was an accident. But in actuality it was just an impostor and cassandra never accepted the fact that her mother died in that accident as it would be out of her character or something. So she enters the science career to find the answers. (Cough aliens cough)
Subscribing right away because thank god someone is actually making a series about the backstories in the sims
can you do a video on the landgraabs please? i never got to play any of the older sims games and i’m really interested in their backstories xx
I find it so weird that Bella dated Don which is her DAUGHTERS HUSBAND and Dina dated Bella's brother and Cassandra's husband too. Her 'aunt' and mum were tryna get with her man!
i love the sims 4, but i wish they continued the story they started with the previous sims games...or at least started another storyline that had just as much depth and little details. it’s the biggest thing the sims 4 is lacking in my opinion. i absolutely love the connect between the sims 1,2 and 3. that was the biggest disappointment about the sims 4 for me.
Fun Fact: At the start of Sims 4, Bella is 35 years, 2 months, 2 days, 2 hours, 22 minutes and 42 seconds old in the Sims 4
Explanation: (Keep in mind I don't actually HAVE the sims so if I get some terms wrong sorry)
On normal lifespan adults live for 29 days. At the start of the game Bella Goth is 24 days away from being an elder. If you turn into an adult at 30 and you turn into an elder at 60, that's 30 years over 29 days. 30/29 = 1.03448276
So, each day (as an adult) is 1.03448276 years (1 year, 1 week, 5 days, 14 hours, 16 minutes and 10 seconds)