it seems like they just live and let live but women can't oppress men very effectively. if you never had the opportunity to be a bad person being a good person is less noble
They don't have full authority, they are still under the legal jurisdiction of China. Also 90% of women's "oppression" under patriarchy were just terms of the marriage contract. Women could go it alone or chose to surrender some of their freedom in return for being taken care of. Men in this culture simply don't have this option, that's why they aren't "oppressed."
I like watching this videos, but this girl, I've seen her visiting other places, she's the worst, seems very uncultured, just speaking from privilege... Very loose and one dimensional arguments...
In Sweden there's a term called Särbo. It means two people are a couple, but decide to live on their own. Sometimes they spend a lot of time together, do vacations together and spend the night together. But at the end of the day, this is my house and that is your house. You are merely a guest in mine, a welcomed guest, but still a guest. For many elderly couples this works well, they might've lost their spouse or divorced, but found a new partner. You both have your own families, homes and lives, but you still want someone special to spend your days with. I know a couple like this, and they say they haven't fought even once. It works great for them.
I'm still confused @@Dixxi91 Does it mean two people living on their own, having their own relationships/families (possibly their own children), yet are still a couple? That sounds polyamorous to me... having multiple partners with little attachment. Isn't it polyamory?
@@chotuitailieu8345 No, they aren't with other partners. They are maybe divorced, and the children have grown up and moved out. So the two people are living completely alone now. But for some reason they choose to continue to live alone instead of moving in together. Moving in together with your new partner might save money on rent, but they have the money to pay for two apartments and they like to have that space to be alone. Does that make it any clearer?
I love how the grandma linked their arms together as they walked, how one of the women picked out the food that fell on the interviewer's lap, the way the teenage girls dressed her up, how the guys threw her into the air... it was all very sweet. They all seem like warm-hearted people.
that seems to be nepotist, there are childfree people in every single culture and society that people forgot about it. Great auntie or auntie should take the head of the family role too. Not just matriarch with kids.
"They seem like a glorified housewife, doing all the work." First of all, it is stated that the men stay with their families and help their sisters and aunts raise their children. They don't lay around doing nothing and dating girls, they most likely help their own families and should they choose, most likely go and visit their own children "at night". Also, I have seen several comments stating that the men have built many of the buildings in that area. They don't do nothing, they just aren't the leader of the household. And it is said that they also take care of politics and such, but the grandmother and high ranking women have the final say. This interviewer is very judgemental and not very thorough and she left me with several questions. I wish there was someone else interviewing.
Well, she's young. And that comment come across as her personal perspective rather than some deep professional analysis. So I forgive her. More of these type of encounters will broaden her perspective and help her grow as a human being. At least she's not pretending to be some authoritative experts on the subject matter who sneakily try to pass personal prejudices as objective truths - like much of modern so called news media.
@@truth-uncensored2426 Thanks for the refinery 29 link. Very fascinating. Their social organisation is certainly worth considering by feminists worldwide. But nothing in that article mentions anything about men dominating religion, politics, & economic matters. Are you getting this perspective from other articles? Can you share the links?
This interviewer I don’t know why, she just annoys me a lot. “Glorified Housewives” I feel like it was rude and insensitive, these women are the same as those not in matriarchy’s but they actually get recognition. I feel like the interviewer just took to this from a tourist view. The point was to learn about their culture, not bring Britain into it. I also feel like she painted it as they were forced to stay there and continue their culture. This was just my opinion but the interviewer really did annoy me A LOT.
I saw another german documentary about it and they too said that women are responsible for everything while men are fishing, drinking und playing games. one woman from that culture in the documentary said that they dont like the men bc they are lazy and have no real responsibilities and only enjoy themselves while women have to do everything. I think thats quite unfair and due to men not having a father role in that society. they are just fucking aroung in every house and spend the womens money. so this culture probably missed the point of matriarchy or is just crazy unequal. I mean sure we don‘t know what matriarchy really means but that culture definetly is not the best example. so it‘s not her fault but your little insight.
also younger women in that documentary said they just keep up tradition bc of their family but dont want to live like it. the women she talked to were like that too. so it seems to be a dying model for a reason, them having no chemistry with the village boys. also the walking marriage might lead to forms of incest.
@@Annybunny99 I amin half of reading "Leaving The Motherlake" and from the book it's obvious that things used to be different there... and men used to trade with outside work and herd animals, which was dangerous and the whole caravans got lost time to time... Their culture is probably in a state decay because of the large influence of the outside world, sadly, as most of "uncivilised" cultures... It's sad. And I found the interviewer quite annoying aswell, she has a really naive unprepared view, it seems to me like she did little to no research before visiting, her questions are pretty much what would you expect from an average tourist.
Matěj Bláha but this book is legit, right? just read a really interesting and well written review about this book. gets me really curios. so yeah all of these youtube videos are really for stupid/superficial people. like the explanation of this culture through a situation no more than a formally from far distance(mentally, not really physical haha) meeting. If she couldn‘t even really layed back chill with these people and smoke one or sth hahah. like she has no real pleasure of meeting new people and their habits. but I‘m really used to these people, so at least they gave some basic information so that I can start from there.
bc it‘s a culture that is breaking apart slowly for several reasons, women and men from the own village not having chemistry, women being tired bc of too much responsibilities and of their men with too much free time..
me too dunno, I guess bc of tradition and why should the men emancipate themselves if that means more responsibilities and no more advantages? It‘s not like they are second class humans or feel like it.
I belong to a matrilineal tribe from the North East of India.. our traditions are very similar to the Mosuo except for the many husbands part hehe.. we marry only one man.. property is inherited by women.. man comes to live with the woman's family after marriage and our surnames do not change after marriage and our kids take the surname of the mothers 😊
zyenna nongbak Also the walking marriage is ok in my book because men aren't worth it to have a relationship with because all they want to have is a property wife.
Chris Walks I don't believe ppl should be kept as property but if you volunteer to be a servant then it's ok. Being a servant is nice but you should also be able to protect and serve your daughters.
I feel like the interviewer doesn't understand that "working hard" isn' necessarily a bad thing. those women have the power BECAUSE of their self-sufficient work and take pride in it.
She is part of the snowflake generation where they judge first before ask, take no responsibility (power) but still demand everything. Further they talk down on other lifestyles and cultures just to keep the illusion their own way of life is superior and they are the "happy" ones. I could not stand a few minutes with that woman.
Women in the west work very hard too, it seems we just get the same freedom and respect as the Mosue ladies. They have a Lovely culture from my viewpoint
+Jing Yun He Really? that's cool. I had a lot of questions I wished she had asked, like if the men in the area felt they experience sexism or shaming like women do in Western culture. Seems to me like there's a lot more lenience for the men, seeing as the women can have multiple partners.. that implies that the men can too. Also, I was wondering if the tourism is something that the people of the area approved of, or if they feel it is harmful to their traditions.
It looks like a really nice place to live, both in its climate and as a society with a good balance in modernity and tradition. I hope my impression is correct
“Glorifying housewives.” Seriously? 🤦🏻♀️ My god is the reporter close-minded. She thought that a matriarchy would mean women not doing anything? What on earth...
she is modern western feminist women what do you expect....in her mind matriarchy means women holding all power and 0 responsibility while man has to provide,buy car,buy house,buy burrbery,clean the house,take care of child while she still complains and whines while sitting on her non existing throne!!.....................I BET you offer this village matriarchy to western modern women they would straight out say NO THANKYOU
The world needs to learn from the Mosou culture. The tasks and responsibilities of the women are the same as many women all over the world.... caring for children, running the house, earning the income. The difference with this culture is that they receive recognition for their value to the family.
True, also we need to learn from Viking and Celtic culture as well. Women had rights, they were in charge of the income of the household, if men had touched them in any way without permission they would be punished. I feel like the world would be a better place if we had some of the values of other cultures.
Your right, but it is glaringly obvious they are receiving that recognition because they are in complete control of their lives, there is complete absence of male dominant athorities in their lives, they don't dominate men. I wonder do me act differently when they know they are free to be replaced? To live in a society where men can't start wars would be a mother's dream.
Анастасия И ya but if she's doing journalism, she should phrase questions in a non intrusive way. She's basically feeding them answers with her questions instead of giving them a chance to naturally respond. She seems like a nice enough girl though.
I agree 100% it was a bit upsetting to see a woman sort of denounce their entire culture especially after speaking with the esteemed matriarchs. It seemed to me she simply does not appreciate the value of independence in terms of industry and hard work. Also later in the video she stated that she thought their culture would die I thought that was a very awful way to end the video, just because the young people want to venture out certainly does not spell doom for the entire cultural tradition. Seems she denounced the views of the older people and just took the desires of the young people at face value, not much of a balanced nor even remotely unbiased presentation of this fascinating and inspirational culture.
Isn't it telling that in a patriarchy men dictate responsibility and make women look after the children, but in a matriarchy women simply take everything upon themselves so the man doesn't have to do anything? Says a lot about men and women.
Burberry is an overpriced raincoat brand that tried to scam money from ignorant people anyway. Most people I spoke to would at most purchase their trench coat and thats it. Anything else u are scammed.
Kandake, HAHA that was so funny, I red your comment and found nothing that really supports your point of view. Except yes Im pessimist, as you are. And you are from psychiatric clinic perhaps
@@dencetrov7099, Your *obviously* pessimistic, hateful, angry, bitter, misogynistic, racist, willfully ignorantly and damning *attitude and approach* is disappointingly *not surprising* since you're apparently a *Canadian man.* Are you perhaps from or living in Ontario...? Why not *be FAIR to women, all women,* and simply ASK, LISTEN, LEARN and TRUST enough to open yourself up psychologically, emotionally and *care* (as well as *positively support and encourage,* as we have always done so much more *for YOU)* about what all women's lives are *really like,* instead of *using them, believing and treating them* as if they *are your servants and designated abuse victims.* THANKS, if so.
Who will fucking treat you well if you want fucking equality? No one treats men softly and most of us know life is a pain and unfair since childhood, you are uneducated sexist
I appreciate the showcasing of the Mosuo matriarchy, but the interviewer asks a few leading questions. Totally distracting. Show your appreciation of the culture by allowing interviewees to speak to their own experiences, instead of extensions of the interviewer's perception.
This is a matrilineal society not matriarchal, in Mosuo society men, for the most part, still dominates Religion, Politics and most of the economic matters, women only have a substancial power in the family arrangement. But even then it's not true that this happens in all families, in some families it's the wife's brother (a man) who gives the last word inside the house. This type of videos doesn't show this but there are articles interviewing Mosuo members that give more details about how they truly live.
I like that lineage and inheritance is tracked through the woman. Children always know who their mother is and take her family name. I have always found it weird that we track ours through our fathers who can deny parentage as they are not the ones whose body we come from. As for hard work, well life is hard work, at least these women maintain ownership of the fruits of their labor.
That is true! My mother, who is a genealogist, is shocked by how many children were raised by non-biological fathers with no one knowing (except for the mom) in the old days. Today, with all the DNA tests, it's harder to keep secrets. Logically, it would make a lot more sense to pass on the heritage line to someone you are certain!
Right it just makes no sense because we barely feel connected to the father and we are more likely to be abandoned by our father than mother. Even if rarely a mother abandoned us she still gave birth to us so it makes sense why we track down ancestory that way.
I was kind of disappointed in this documentary. It seems like the host really jumped into this project with an agenda. Her comments and questions and closing thoughts really showed that she was projecting her frustration with her own western culture onto the Mosuo people rather than just reporting on their lives. Finding out whether or not they have a feminist issue (or rather a solution to her cultures feminist issue) seemed to be her goal. Which, even to me, a proponent of equal rights among genders, seemed a little unfair and unprofessional.
Very well said! Also the way that she said "have you heard of a company called Burberry" bothered me. It seemed to me like she was equating a modern British company's style to traditional garb and belittling the culture (" we have that, too!") as opposed to acknowledging that the design could be in a long list of things the British have appropriated from their territories. If promoting the history of colonialism was her goal, it wasn't explicit.
I didn't get that impression at all. If anything, I thought it did a pretty good job about showing the pros and the cons. also, it was a 24 minute documentary on a culture you probably never heard about until now. so perhaps you should take your own criticism and not project.
headoverheels88 As a historian (my field of study) I am trained to look for bias. It can often be hard to spot for the untrained eye. History and journalism are similar in many respects and an attempt to report on information unbiasedly is always the goal. But thank you, I shall take you comment on the culture I most certainly have heard of in stride and in the future I won't assume anything about anyone.
Funny how in a matriarchy the women are still doing all the hard work and the men are happy as can be. Come on, where's the oppression, the shaming and controlling of men's bodies, the constant fear of what might happen to you if you go to the wrong place at the wrong time and the knowledge that you're only valued for your looks so long as you still have them? A matriarchy and patriarchy are supposed to be the same, just with the genders switched around right? /s
Human female evolutionary path is in many ways parallel, but distinct from human males. Neuro-typical females naturally organize households and run communities differently than neuro-typical human males. Nobody's superior. It's a neutral, impersonal dynamic. Urban or rural, women are not better. Only statistically measurably better for your health ;-)
tnt ntn Xenomorph ball just letting y'all two know that you're both acting like ignorant children and I'm not having these comments clog up my notifs
It's funny that you say glorifying housewives when they're running businesses and making all of the decisions and leading the households. Patriarchy isn't men doing no work, so why would matriarchy be women doing no work? lol
Because a patriarchy women are completely controlled by their husbands and are responsible for household chores and children bearing while the man earns the bread but here men still have their freedom and don’t have to work in the home or raise the children and also don’t have to be the bread winner? That said I would rather be like this culture where the women have to do everything, at least they are still their own person
@@WeiYinChan I've noticed that most men in marraiges are controlled by their wives and scared of upsetting them. Women normally handle finances that the man brings home and men have to get their wvie's permission before they can go out with theur boys. I really dont see marraiges where the women is being controlled, quite the oppsosite.
@@wadewill5934 i think she's talking about other cultures, not the West. The women in the west(especially the white women) live on easy mode. I can't say the same to us Sub-saharans and our Arab sisters
@@wadewill5934 Your answer might be right for America and some western European countries, but in many, many other eastern European and Asian countries, women are still controlled by their husbans.
Women working hard....damn, I guess you have to see it to believe it. You guys are good at working hard on your hair, style and makeup....that's about it.
you just contradicted to yourself by saying you have to see it to believe it... you saw it in this video. Then you claimed women are only good at working hard on hair, style, and makeup.
Catherine Liu Yah, but you forgot the sarcasm when I compared hair, style and makeup to actual work. sorry, but every girl who was working with us were just lazy, they can't work hard, couldn't learn how to script when all the guys learned it, couldn't get basic programming....but their hair and makeup was always perfect.
AliceTheHetalian Sorta, I've only watched some clips of the show, and can't really stand watching it for prolonged periods because it gets kinda annoying, but I really like the concept and characters, especially the fan interpretations and art, I think what the fans make much more lives up to what Hetalia could of been.
at 7:45 you don't get it: they do work harder but they work for them, their families, themselves. I think we need both men and women working together but this is a perfect example of how women can form an entire community, a culture, alone. They work a lot but they don't give their hard work to men.
You are right. As a matter of fact，it's common that women work hard while men do nothing except gambling/hanging around in some poor countrysides of China. In cities you can find women and men both work hard for economic pressure but in countryside, male do take exploitive advantage of female in working, farming, breeding...So this Mosuo culture is cool to some extent because women work for themselves and inherit property from their mons to their daughters. However there's bad sides while the laws of marriage are not fitted for them....and with the fast developing tourism some bad influence may appear in the future..
jesus, that glorified house wives comment is infuriating. She wants to be queen and doesn't understand that having power and the final say means pressure and responsibility, that's just how it is man or woman. Her idea of matriarchy is women live a luxurious life and she gets to live as a queen while the men do her bidding? Good luck with that attitude.
The reporter is short-sighted. Working in and around your house brings joy. Would she rather the women scatter all over all day long then return to their homes? Just because their work is being done at the home does not mean the women are somehow "glorified housewives." Hard work that you get to enjoy at the end of each day is one of life's purest joys, as with working alongside your family and children.
So what if they are glorified housewives. My mother is a housewife and she had sacrificed and work very hard her life and deserved just as much credit as any professional women.
EdenSphinxTV you mean if men would learn their place in modern society, as modern women are already self reliant with freedom to work and have family. Men just need to learn to find a place of their own without relying on women to do their house works. Basically men need to learn how to live on their own live without women. It will peace for women once that happens.
+Dragonze Watermellon You mean bachelors and MGTOWs? They do everything themselves, don't they? Since when were men incapable of living without women? In their culture, responsibility and authority are tied, as it should be. Their culture, roles reversed, will be men being responsible for income and meals ( which most of OUR cultures already do ), but men get to sleep with whoever they want, ask their women to leave before morning because they need to get back to work, and moms have no legal or parenting rights over their kids. In our culture, men get the responsibility but women get the authority, which, doesn't work. It's either shared, or one side gets both. Yet, here you are still talking about men needing to learn their place blah blah blah.
Personally I would love to live like this. Not because the women are in charge or even that it can be polyamourous openly but just the idea that I could stay with my family forever without having to worry about leaving. I think they should also do a study on the senior citizens happiness. It would be interesting to compare it to the western seniors happiness.
There is no such thing as matriarchy anyway you people don't understand the difference between matriarchal society and matrilineal society it is not a matriarchal society it is just a matrilineal society where only grooms go to brides home and women are the providers or head of the family but not the protectors. Men are still protectors and head of the society here people always mix them up patrilineal is not patriarchy and matrilineal is not also matriarchy
@@marirose313 just because something is consentual doesnt mean its right. Maybe the boys are forced though. The point is they are still children and letting them be so sexually active at that age is just terrible parenting!
@@kimaya.3563 you didn't explaine a single thing.... why should someone listen to a single word from you? you just think it is nasty so everyone has to think that way. great thought, really, your the best teacher i ever saw.
It's so sad to see beautiful and unique traditions and ways of life being co-opted by tourism. But it also makes sense to see the young womens' struggle. I hope their culture survives.
I mean, if not for tourism, how would the economy work? they wouldn't be able to sell their goods. whats wrong with other people knowing their tradition?
In the patriarchal society, the women aren't happy unlike in the matriarchal both males and females are happy. And if they are not they are allowed to leave unlike in a patriarchal society.
It's so strange that people find not working and having a lazy life as better than working and taking care of and making the final decisions. At the end of the day the women in the society are respected and seen as the decision-makers and head of household. I think that is way more respectful than just hanging around the house doing nothing. lol
HelloMyNamelsBanana Y'all finished or Y'all done? Why would you think men care about your opinion of men? You trying to define man's role or think you can shame them is a joke.
I'm from Meghalaya(Shillong)...here women after they get married the Woman doesn't have to leave her family instead the husband will come and stay to his Wife's house and they would never change their surname to their husband instead the children will take their Mother's surname and the women will Inherited all the family Property but Woman marry to only one man...i love where i came from and it makes us Unique
I felt beautiful as a woman watching these amazing women moving thru centuries of culture, heritage and tradition in their everyday normal. This culture is empowering and inspirational. However, I don't like the growing number of pervy tourist coming there with their exploitive, subjective, motives towards these women and the men of "their" clans/tribal way of life; only viewing the Mosuo customs as a form of debauchery and free women labor force. A place where men are living laissez-faire lifestyles that outsiders now want to get in on as exploitive sexual/cheap labor trade. It should be an international crime for anyone to exploit any global indigenous culture. May Mosuo matriarchal families continue to thrive and live long, healthy, generational existences.
So, you view their women as empowering, but at the same time being exploited by men? Makes zero sense. That's like saying our men are empowered with all responsibilities and work, an inspiration for all boys, and women who want to become housewives are just exploiting male labor. Also, nowhere in this video said anything about pervy tourists. And if you say they are taking advantage of local women, you are saying those women don't have any agency to decide for themselves.
Molly Marmalade There is no such thing as patriarchy. A patriarchy would be men protecting men at the expense of sacrificing women. It doesn’t work. Imagine two tribes of cavemen. One sacrifices men to prosper women, the other doing the opposite. After a few huge hit from natural disasters or resource war from other tribes, which will eventually die off? We all have the genes to protect women at all costs and treat men like shit, which, you call “patriarchy”? It has nothing to do with who is stronger or smarter. Healthy wombs are limited. Sperms are of no value as 1 can do the job of 20. Which is also why women are allowed to be selfish, or even encouraged to be egocentric, while selfish behaviors of men are frowned upon, and self sacrifice of men are seen as good act. 5% of men rise to power because they are great at securing resources against other tribes. Women taking those responsibilities, again, would be risking wombs. That was what survived.
Molly Marmalade No one is jealous, please. Being able to stay home is a luxury. The more underdeveloped and impoverished a region is, the more female labor you see. You think women breaking their backs working at tea plantations under the sun feels empowered that they are strong enough to do hard labor? And sees staying at home as being locked up as slaves? You should stop reading books on trash ideology and talk to them. Go visit non first world countries, you’ll witness a lot of “empowered” “strong” women working typically men’s jobs, and like male peers, working 12hrs a day. So, just screw up U.S.’s economy into depression and women will start “becoming strong” to do male labor.
Molly Marmalade You obviously know nothing about archeology of civilization and human evolution. Problem with women like you is you see only the top 5% of men, envy what they have and the rest of men working the mines, sewers, furnace, are just invisible to you. 98% of deaths from working hazards are of men. Must be patriarchy being sexist because dying at work is a male privilege. There is no such thing as patriarchy. A society that sacrifice the ones who carries wombs can’t populate the entire Earth. Maybe now we can, but in the past we can’t, so our genes carries that tendency to value young women over resources and value resources over lives of men. The funny thing is you want men to turn off this switch, but when they do, it’s not what you think will happen. Those men already exists, it’s MGTOW. They want nothing from women.
@xXsilentvatoxx, DAMN! Why do you nasty responders here so much enjoy outing your negative and hateful selves while attempting to destroy the joy and hope of others who are positive and want the best for themselves and all others, in more peaceful evolution?!? Working as an international travel progamme host is a career of enjoying life and learning from and sharing life experiences with a vast myriad of interesting, friendly people (as most locals are with tourists who display acceptance and respectful overt interest in 'others'), while educating and entertaining others who screen the programme, that editing and a lot of other skilled and creative negotiations, labour and marketing go into.
@@walkersmith2791, Oh, are you stating there hasn't been *anything systemic in place, societally, that overlords and oppresses women and girls, and has done for several millennia?* Societal systems working against women and girls progressing and ascending at the same rate as men and boys, in order to move ahead in mind and life, called: *misogyny, patriarchy, male-biased sexism, racism, shadeism, classism, casteism, ableism, sizeism, etc...?* Please, *take some interest, and ask and listen to what are our lives have really been like,* we have been humane, trusting, caring and supportive and have always listened to you, taken care and do for you, damn, you even expect it via privilege and entitlement (rather than individual earning and appreciation)! Why not also *ask how and when we know we've been held back when we knew* we could learn, do and wanted to have access to progressive opportunities we should have and would have *were we men, boys, or men of European descent, etc.?* Please, get *with the curve* instead of dragging everyone down, trailing behind it, trying to return to a past that was incredibly stifling for all except men of the majority population. It is very simple, just OPEN YOURSELF UP to positive change for us ALL, psychologically, emotionally and humanely, simply *BE FAIR to us, all of us.* Thanks, if so.
But women also do all the work, manage the finances and make most of the money. The men mostly just do whatever the fuck they want and occasionally be a father figure to the children, a role which is shared by their male relatives hahahahhaah. It's a pretty difficult trade mate.
This is normal for many Native Americans also. When you are brought up around and in a matriarchy , it is not a shock, it is the way things are and men think it's cool
@@asmitajalote1153 yes! my ancestors (Potawatomi, descended from Anishnaabe) from what research I've done were about a healthy balance between the genders; the agricultural property was passed down from mother to daughter for example, and the men were just as responsible/in charge as the women, but would do tasks to assist the women if needed or if it made life easier on the tribe as a whole to help when needed.
@Netsosie, It's quite thatthe Mosuo migrated to the US. Many of the native tribes look Oriental and share similar culture e g. In their tents, yurts, clothing, totem Poles and sundances... THERE ought to be more research into the connection between the Siberians,, Mongolian, Tibetans and the ethnic tribes of China.
GOOD housewifery should be glorified! Women work harder than men EVERYWHERE and housewives in most parts of the world are seen as expendable workers. Id rather do the hard labour of a masuo and be appreciated and earn prestige than do the hard labour of womanhood in any other place where my work is just patronized condescended too and im a throwaway when i get too old and un pretty. Thats some bullshit.
+sj4389gee The west is most definitely a patriarchy. Women earn 79% of the dollar that men earn for the same exact jobs. This doesn't mean they aren't working as hard, they are literally doing the exact same work, but aren't paid the same. And you act like the men of the west are forced to work in office settings against their will to support their family which is most definitely not the case.
***** I'm ignorant? Yet you sit here and 'inform' me about how the wage gap is a myth through over generalized sexist statements... The wage gap is calculated based off annual salaries, but you are just contradicting your own claim by proving how it is calculated. Regardless of whether or not women and men earn the same for a particular job, if you are telling me how it is calculated, you are admitting that there is in fact a gap on a national level.
***** At this point I don't even know what to say. I cannot reason with a person who says 'sexist or not it is the truth' and then goes and justifies that statement through opinion about stereotypical traits of the sexist, claiming it is biology. I see no point and continuing on here.
***** No. There is nothing wrong with stating obvious facts, but using those facts to justify an opinion is where the problem lies. And you keep on saying 'biology' like I am supposed to drop my stance just because of 'science' but 1) you are using the science to back up facts, not your opinion. So I do not disagree with the science, just your opinion. 2) Testosterone and brain function based on gender would be considered chemistry... not biology...
***** I've never said they purposefully pay women less. There are no laws that say women and men have to earn the same for the same job, but there are no laws that punish companies if they don't give equal pay. That's why there is such a large gray area. They aren't breaking the law because there is no law. And to further answer, firing women to cut costs is blatant discrimination. If you fire all women working for a certain company, somebody will need to fill those vacancies, and if woman were fired to cut costs, then the company probably won't hire women to replace the fired ones.
of course matriarchy should come with work. this isnt a society of queens. this is rural China. They have all the respect in the world for what they do for their families, but I guess all you were interested in was women using men for comfort and that in itself is sexist. women are capable of doing it themselves, and its wonderful. I would like to see their traditions evolve with the development of the area though.
+ivlust I agree. I realize also that people are not considering the fact that many women in western society are single parents who work their arses off. If there was a system like this then they wouldn't need to bed men to care for the children. The girls in the village do not realize that the grass may not be greener on the other side.
+ivlust I think the west has all the wrong image of what 'having the power' means. This documentary is a great example of what comes with getting the power!
It doesn't need to increase in "development"! They are already happy without air pollution, fluoridated water, vagrancy laws, massively large numbers of murders a day, racial discrimination, deceptive media, etc...! I say, whether if that society remains a matriarchy or not, leave it the way it is! It's so peaceful there! Their society should NOT copy American society!
+Irene Wang These women can buy me for all I care. I am sick of the western life style. It seems this has proven women aren't engaged in a violent activity with a working system. All men need to do is obey women and do minimal work? I wish I knew mandarin, I'd end up here.
+Leela Satya hmm not really. In a traditional Western environment men do the paid work whilst women do cooking/cleaning/child-raising. It seems that in this culture the women do everything.
The makers of this video must be fucking idiots. These goddamn idiot wannabe feminists. Just like those islam loving bitches. Where are the real cynical brave feminists?
[response to the comment said by the show host at 7:57] They're so thin because they eat more fat and proteins, and less carbs, and they live a very physical life with low stress.
@@d0lly4ngel so you think that people think that musuo people are chinese because tibet is located in china? that makes zero sense. Tibetans are a separate ethnic group
I agree with the weaver lady; Mosuo IS the most progressive culture in the world. Just think: no male domination, no lying, cheating, stealing, hitting, intimidating, wars; bombing. Just peace, quiet, and getting on with the daily living. Wow! I love it!!! And another thing, the children aren't being traumatized with fighting, family break-ups, or having to leave their homes, or be dragged from pillar-to-post as the single mom tries to find work, a safe living environment, babysitters, and schools while dad indulges his ego and refuses to pay child support. This is MUCH better. The kids stay with their moms, and the dads can visit. The kids get grandmother, mother, sisters, aunties, and lots to eat in a stable, safe environment. Sounds like a good deal to me.
West Winds I like how you blame men but don’t talk about the piece of shit moms too who do the same shit. I too like this culture because it actually makes women get off their entitled high horse and work, not like in the West where men are expected to be providers even tho we have equality. Western women couldn’t live like this because they have it easy they don’t have to do this, I guarantee you that if women had to do the work these women do they would bitch and moan until men did the work because that’s how the West is.
WTF? This Matriarch has problems of its own dude lol just because you watched a 12 minute video from vice on it ddoesn't make you an expert. They aren't just "getting along" with no issues whatsoever cmon now wtf
1. You can’t have life without at least simple arguments and, if you can get into simple arguments you can get into wars. 2. My dad is a way better parent then my mom so stop putting labels on dads. 3. Matriarchy would change meh animes 😢
I feel like this isn't so much a matriarchy as simply a place where women get recognition-but we view it as a matriarchy because we're so used to living in a patriarchy
@Ismael Barrera but there are exceptions like these. Exceptions show us that we Can live differently and culture is a social construct. Culture, structures and systems are never "natural" and don't follow an universal or obligatory law. We create them and decide!
@A. Wyatt Mann it's not about progress. It's whether they have existed or not because they show us that it is possible. If we're talking about progress -- most patriarchal countries today are underdeveloped and the progressive countries are the ones who have moved on past patriarchal societies and recognized that it's not beneficial. That means that Patriarchats will eventually die out.
She lost me in the beginning about men thinking with theirs dicks, though the men that didn't think with theirs dick created the world has we know it, Tesla Wright Brothers, Isaac Newton go figure women are a distraction i suppose.
As a dude from Latvia i can almost call my country as matriarchal too because 56% of latvian population are women and it is a VERY VERY common thing that mothers are growing their children alone without the fathers cause of wide spread alcoholism and drug use... Men are really easy to fall down into addicitions and that basically ruins every family here so women are extra strong here. But the strongest of them all is my mum! : D
VIESTURS MARTS If women do all the work because the father is a dead beat then it's still not a Matriarchy. Matriarchy hold women on an important position and they are the head of everything.
VIESTURS MARTS Well almost is not good enough. I think women should be the head of the household since they do more than men. Since you are on a feminist channel as a dude,Do you believe that Matriarchy is the road to peace?
VIESTURS MARTS I hope you completely agree one day because every Matriarchy village or tribe has the lowest crime rate even the larger ones like in India and Saudi Arabia. Most Native American tribes were Matriarchy too and the women build those weird looking tents.
@Black Knight Fool - But here we saw the women gathering the resources. Or perhaps the reporter did not give sufficient time to what the men were doing during the day? Was their a chief here? It seemed that the grandmothers were nominal chiefs although one elder woman did let slip that in fact the elder men made the crucial decisions. Hard to know with such slapdash reporting.
Inheritance from mother to daughter makes infinitely more sense than father to son. It guarantees that the child is her biological child, there’s no guarantee for men.
The lion is not the leader but the protector, so they give him the best food so he stays strong. If he gets weak, he will be replaced quickly and no one will care for him.
I have read a book about this place years ago and i am so surprised it is so different than I have imagined. It is actually so modern and people seems so happy and friendly. That's absolutely somewhere I am going to visit in future.
Sage Thinker Fatima Al-Fihri: founded the oldest university in the world Hedt Lamarr: co-invented technology which enabled wireless communication, actress Rosalind Franklin: discovered the double helical structure of DNA Jeannette Rankin: was elected for congress 4 years before women could vote nationally Bessie Coleman: was one of the first african-american airplane pilots Ching Shih: was one of the most successful and feared pirates in history Female Inventors such as Mary Anderson, Barbra Askins, Patricia Billings, Marion Donovan, Sally Fox, Bette Nesmith Graham, Dr. Temple Grandin,Ruth Handler, Dr. Grace Murray Hopper, Mary Phelps Jacob, Margaret Knight, Stephanie Kwolek, Ann Moore, Lyda Newman, Patsy Sherman, dr. Giuliana Tesoro, Ruth Wakefield, and Rachel Zimmerman (Including Many MANY more) have done more in their lifetimes than your whole family will. Don't tell me women aren't inventors. Educate yourself, there are as many female inventors as there male ones.
I am a Chinese man. I could not fathom why there is even an issue about women are not equal to a man? All men have a mother, isn't it? All mother is a woman, is it not? You love and adore and respect your mother. do you not? I want my mother to be treated equal to any man, don't you? SO WHAT SEEMS TO BE THE PROBLEM?
For all the people commenting: why are the men happy? Why aren't they body shamed? And stuff like that, I don't think you guys know what a matriarchy is...
Check the statistics. Over half of men who (violently?) rape women were raped as a child by an adult female, women have almost complete control over children's lives and they raise monsters who serial rape women. You're wrong. You're ignoring facts, women have gotten out of jail time by claiming 10 year old boys seduced them into sex, and everyone around believes them. Sad.
@@jelenatomic6543 How the hell do any of you know whether or not the men are body shamed? I just scrolled through comments right above yours saying the guys in this village are good looking and postulating its because their lives revolve around getting sex. Further, how do you know the how happy the men are? I could easily make a documentary of an Amish village showing happy and content women and use that to "prove" women are happier under patriarchy. Actually statistics show women HAVE gotten less happy as society has gotten less patriarchal.
+Elena Chen They are matrilineal: "The Mosuo culture does have characteristics of a matriarchal society in which women are the head of the household, the property is passed down through the female line and the women make business decisions but political power tends to be in the hands of males, disqualifying them from matriarchy status."
Oh please can't you read between the lines, Men know how to convince women better than women will ever know. Men don't have to work, take responsibility can get sex, and enjoy life that's what most beta men want.
It's simply really. If they're happy with their lives what else matters. The presenter is clueless though. This is rural life, not city life. They're self sufficient which means a lot of responsibility.
In the beginning, The host got so happy knowing it was a matriarchy . But as the video went on her smile started to fade away knowing how much responsibility is required to be a leader. That cracked me up. 😂😂😂 . Western Women want power but without the responsibility. You all should learn from this community before demanding so much power and so quickly.
@@claireeeeee655 When the majority of the population fits the description, generalizing is what's required. ps. 'generalizing' isn't a "'bad word"', it's a word with a certain meaning which is appropriate here.
@@claireeeeee655 I never said there arent any. I'm saying Women like Kamala Harris, Michelle Obama, Ghislaine Maxwell, Hollywood Actresses/Singers are NOT competant at all. They are infact corrrupt. They are always seen with propaganda and rants for rights in their mouth. They talk nothing about responsibilities. And these womens are the ones THE WEST deify. They deserve to be vilified. And you my friend, You are the one avoiding facts.
Ana Mm she thought the women there were going to be slaved over by men and pampered but quickly realized they had to work hard unlike western women now a days who have it easy.
I don't agree with her summary that this life style is anything close to being a house wife because the women actually are comparable to men in a patriarch. Men work really hard and are the bread winners. That's ALOT of stress on their conscious. Obviously a single mom is the same. The best thing about their culture is that the blood family sticks together and make gains for the family. Everyone has a role in the family. This video has washed away so many pressures about my own life. Thanks !
I loved her face when she realized women have to do all the work, it's like old traditional culture but reversed. Feminists like the pros but frown at the cons
@@11kwright u talk as if every man in patriarchal society is destructive to their family and that men are inherently destructive to families. thats not true. men can and have been caring loving and HARD WORKING in building their families as well. men can use their strength to protect and their power to nurture. not saying that this power model hasnt led to issues wen gone to an extreme, but its wrong to talk about all men as if theyre all violent monsters women need to break free of and do away with. men have purpose too! men and women should work together and respect eachother.
I hope their kids carry on these traditions. They seem so happy there. It's kinda similar to the West in an odd way, except they are free to live. A lot of women are breadwinners, make decisions but aren't allowed to live free. Thanks Broadly!!
+Alyssa Vy It's false comparison. One should not & cannot truthfully compare the plight of women in Saudi Arabia (for example) to those women face in The West. These are different cultures & problems faced by women in various parts of the world & by making this comparison it attempts to dismiss the real problems women face in the west by comparing them to problems women face in KSA,Africa, Iran, etc.. It's false comparison which could be applied to virtually any Western problem when compared to the problems people face around the world. People can & cont. to protest to bring awareness to multitude of problems simultaneously
It's sad that you think that it's "glorifying housewives". Self sustained living IS hard work my dear. It also has a very small carbon footprint. Matriachal rule means that with great power comes great responsibility and hard work.They run a village. Not a household. And at the end of the day, running a village requires an incredible amount of diverse skills to maintain. And incredibly intense challenges to deal with. Big Respect for these women.
There is no such thing as matriarchy anyway you people don't understand the difference between matriarchal society and matrilineal society it is not a matriarchal society it is just a matrilineal society where only grooms go to brides home and women are the providers or head of the family but not the protectors. Men are still protectors and head of the society here people always mix them up patrilineal is not patriarchy and matrilineal is not also matriarchy
It is certainly safer for women to stay in their family homes, and have their family supporting them; abuse happens so often in the world because the woman is isolated from her birth family. Doesn't seem like there is a lot of reason for men to be around. If men won't pitch in and help run the household, why not just send them to the big city? I bet the brothers and sons do a lot of work around the home, and childcare also.
Please dont look at their life from your experience and perspective. Just dont pass comment about right or wrong. Its their life their culture and traditions let it be what is a problem?
Hear me out. I find it amazing that somewhere in the world women are regarded higher then men, but I believe that we should have no patriarchy or matriarchy so that we can all be equal. Though I know it is a dream and never will happen.
We are all equal. The universe doesn't care what you have between your legs. Everything that we do has minimal impact on the world as a whole. We will all die.
Shadow Gabriel In a perfect world yes, but individuals make changes and sadly it does matter what is in between your legs. Well to be honest the universe doesn't give a fuck about you, the earth, our sun, our solar system, our galaxy, or our local group. There are millions if not billions of these across the entire universe, and we aren't even a quark in the grand scheme of things.
Matriarchy is feminine and the rule of the mother - patriarch is masculine and the rule of the father. These energies work extremely well if the humans stop trying to re-write mother nature's rules! It is not one energy over the other - it is a balance just like ying and yang. That is what brings in the conflict, the meddling humans in power throwing a spanner in the works to keep humanity in chaos and under control.
@@hildagilbert2941 how damaged you must be to have such low standard of just a couple things you don't want and not actually thinking about the things you DO WANT from a partner. The partner is not even a good word for that since there are no shared responsibilities. I think men and women should help each other, that is a lot better culture.
It's fascinating how very competent all the women are. They are working no harder than they would in a "traditional" marriage--perhaps less because they don't have to cater to men or bother with them most of the time. They are surrounded by family yet live independently.
Definitely! I'm an expert on men, having raised them in captivity. A group of women is more productive and happier than one captive woman in a male-dominated household. There was a study done that proved that a dollar in a woman's hands is used 90% for the family. In a man's hands, that same dollar is lucky to see 10% going towards the family. Jest sayin'....>^;^
Sandy Lewis 5% goes to the family and the other 5% goes to the fling they knocked up behind the wife's back. But maybe Im being generous,chances are high that only 1% goes to the family since most men are deadbeat. They all want children but chicken out of their responsibilities in the long run and blame the woman somehow for "Tricking" them.
Sandy Lewis And yes I agree that a place where women rule is the best place for girls to grow up in. Imagine all the potential without Patriarchy influences and the peace. Women are ofcourse more productive and happier with female comrades.
Mosuo isn't only or last matriarchy group in China, they are the most famous one because the "walking marriage". I know there are few Miao and people from native of Hai Nan are also been somewhat matriarchy, but the point is the same, women have the power because they work more, so much more than their men, take care of the whole family, power comes from that. My family is from a lost matriarchy family group from Si Chuan, we lost our origin and family record in last 100 years wars, but we are well integrated into modern world, still keeping some of the traditions, in our family, women are usually having the higher achievements in everything, and doing more for the family than their husbands, for my grandma's generation, nearly every female is teacher or professor, my mom's generation, every female is engineer. So women make every big decisions in family, every child in my family, specially the female, take the mother's family name, their marriages and educations are most important things in family, but I do enjoy living in the family as a male, because it's less pressure from family.
@@bendover4668 you have yet to say anything of value, which I would expect given your name, and you proceed to tell people to "go get educated." You should just give up my guy.
@@Cienfuegos. I have you’re just too stupid to understand. And my name is a word play. It’s meant to symbolize how the Chinese will “bend over” the world. Because China is the future!
A lot of people are commenting on how attractive these people are. I think its because women can sleep with whomever they want, have no financial need of men, and no one has to be monogamous. So they are basically just going to have sex with the most attractive guys. Many women will end up having children with the good looking guys, few to none with the unattractive ones. So this culture literally breeds attractiveness.
A lot of people being so judge mental how about seeing the positives, yes? Sure the Mosuo women do a lot but it's a fair price over domestic abuse and others problems that a traditional patriarchal society has. It's not a perfect culture but the women are much more happier.
very interesting video. but for me I don't like this social system. I prefer both genders providing the bread for the family and taking care of the children.
+Thomas Rooney Women have a mother instinct but so should father's having father instinct to learn new skills for their child. it is completely ridiculous to say women or men should do only thing because they have a certain knack for it. Humans learn things they don't innately know all the time. example: language, using utensils, internet, driving....etc.
Maybe, though there have been alot of violent women so that's speculative. We wouldnt be living with all the modern conveniences and scientific achievements we have now though. We would probably be physically weaker and dumber aswell.
I love how when women are in control everyone just seems so happy and content, men and women are comfortable with no one being opresses. While in patriarchal societies everyone seems miserable and women get opressed 24/7 (ask me about it im a girl living in fucking syria) and it really makes me wonder how the world would be like if women were in charge everywhere, its the fucking dream
Crime would be on a low pitch. Less depression for women. And women have every opportunity (that used to be given to men only ) to live their life to its highest potential, you have the option to chase any dream, you have the opportunity to be the woman you want to be without men to have a say or brainwashed women who prefer sons. They have no authority over your life especially men. But in order to make it happen then start yourself, create a matriarchal household. If all women did that then it will be noticed and a new better world will be created for women like you.
You really get an idea about our society from how many women mostly from Western cultures are commenting that they would like to live there. Truly, it looks like an idyllic place. Everyone is happy in their lives and they work together instead of one being above the others. The one to provide great wisdom, grandmother, makes choices.
+Hello Lexi aaand in the past they also used to show how happy and glamorous the Soviet Union was. When the glamour comes in....its when it becomes bullshit.
+Fabbeyond Jefe to be fair, that could well be only because they are exposed to a glamorized Chinese/western lifestyle through media, and are young teenagers who would naturally be attracted to that by their curiosity. You know the saying, "the grass is always greener.
Did you miss the part where the host called them "Glorified Housewives"? Being a farmer is painstaking work and when she had to dig for a few potatoes, she quickly went from Heralding these women as bastions of feminism to "Glorified housewives". They have earned their position, unlike the host who believes Feminism=Entitlement
That's just worse. Men just sit around while the women now have to do *EVERYTHING*. Not only the old ingrained behaviours of cooking, cleaning, and taking care of the kids, they now also have to provide the cash!
Right while the men are saying their life is so easy and they do nothing all day, that's not the way it is in a patriarchal society. Women have it double loaded there and men have to do zero, really not the respect you'd expect with it being a matriarchy.
BillundBerries Whether it's a patriarchy or a matriarchy depends on if the people get to do what they want or are forced to do it. Even if the responsibilities were equally shared between men and women in the mosou society you can still ask yourself why women takes care of the household work and men takes care of the slaugther and fishing. That seems like a stereotypical remnant of women's chores and men's chores.
budi RJ prostitues arent happy. you realise scientificially men are wired to enjoy sex right. they are more physical than emotional. women are more emotional than physical. so our emotions are first before the physical side. a womans emotional side is so strong their brain can freze and they actually will not feel anything when having sex. litterally. their whole physical side gets shut down. some women do not get jobs as easily as men. so they have to go for prostitution. I also cant believe you are judging all prostitutes that way... a majority of prostitutes are depressed. you need to look at yourself and think, where are these prostiture getting their money from? a person getting a prostitute is not better than the prostitute her self.
I think running a self sufficient subsistence farm and having sexy dudes come to a secret back door sounds like the best thing ever! I feel bad for those younger girls who are likely being influenced by Chinese media, falling for the romance crap in the movies. They'll end up wage slaves with a factory job or something and feeling bored with their husbands of the future.
They seem so bright and happy, despite the hard work they have to do on the daily. The Stanford 100y long study on happiness is right - the key to a happy life is in the quality of our relationships with friends and family, nothing else.
That’s stretching it a bit. It only looks a bit like the Tibetan part of Arunachal. Most other Northeast Indians are tribals their traditional houses are bamboo huts not such large carved wooden houses. Tribals also much swarthier and shorter than these Qiangic people, .
omg i miss this place so much, its Yunnan province and i used to go down there alone every year just to have fun, its like the most chilling province in China , the nature is beautiful there
@@hochigaming14yearsago90 true. It's funny how everyone is stating their own reasons for why they are skinny: "organic", "no carbs", "purely exercise", etc.
i really like this reporter, shes quite excellent. i found it amsuing how the mosuo charm wore off because the women work really hard even though they are in charge. thats the generic template for being a great leader, man or woman. I interpreted that aspect as inspiring
They are not the only world Matriarchy. Im also from matriarchy family and we are from Northeast , India but our tradition is a bit different from them.
This is really fascinating. There is oddly something quite comforting about their way of life. It is so different to what I am used to and I cannot bring myself to judge based on my own life. They seem so happy but I see the pull of our way of life on the younger generation and sadly I feel the rest of the world encroaching on them. I cannot put my finger on it but I felt really happy for them and didn't want them to lose this way of life. There seems to be a really strong feeling of community and I can imagine loneliness would be rare in this world of theirs.
They were forced to marry in the 1960s during the cultural revolution. Then some of them reversed back to night marriage (only meeting at night, and the woman can choose to have a different partner every different night).
true, and they have the support of their large families and communities. The fact that the young man at the end said he would choose to return home even if he lived in mainstream society because "home is better" says it all. You don't see any of these men being arrogant aggressive f*ckboys. They look rather happy.
@@AstroMartine The only reason you see "arrogant aggressive f*ckboys" is due to it apearantly working. These men would return home, due to easy sex and not needing to do much. Likely men, who look worse have left the tribe long ago, since there is no possibility to prove themself to get a partner.(In the dancing scenes for excample it looks, at least like there are rather few men, which also was the initial reason why they started that way of life, according to a diffrent documentary on them) In other documentaries, the young women seem to acctually be less fond of that lifesyle. Also you arguably see more "arrogant aggressive f*ckboys", since we acctually became more like them.
I liked this documentary up until the point where she talks about how its "lost its charm to her" because it feels like its just a "way of glorifying housewives" -- are you serious? You obviously have no depth of understanding their culture. "I GUESS they have found some sort of gender balance" -- My god you are so white. Sorry. I'm glad you are learning. Keep reflecting on your experiences and decolonize your mind. Us tribal folks have to work hard at it too so its not just a white thing. But i guess this is a documentary for people who don't come from our background so they find it extremely strange to see other ways of life. This is why Mosou and other tribal/indigenous youth have such a hard time adapting to the "new world" if you must categorize it that way. It is just so unaccepting of our ancient traditions and cultures. There's always room for change, but lacking a sense of understanding just leads to subtle forms of degradation and loss of diversity.
I think she might be trying to convince herself that that life is not for her because she asked about what she would be doing if she joins them, right?
I've seen an older documentary on the Mosuo matriarchy and very much enjoyed it. I was interested in watching this as this is newer, but immediately disliked it because of they way Milène is documenting this video. I wondered if it was just me. Good to know it isn't.
What a fascinating culture! I'd be interested in seeing some studies on how the young boys in this community who have no relationship with their biological father compare to those that do. I think its a wonderful that this unusual ancient tradition has survived, but I can't see how it could hold up in a modern urban environment.
women have the ultimate authority here, but don't choose to use it to keep men oppressed. i love it.
it seems like they just live and let live but women can't oppress men very effectively. if you never had the opportunity to be a bad person being a good person is less noble
Isn't denying men inheritance a form of oppression?
They don't have full authority, they are still under the legal jurisdiction of China. Also 90% of women's "oppression" under patriarchy were just terms of the marriage contract. Women could go it alone or chose to surrender some of their freedom in return for being taken care of. Men in this culture simply don't have this option, that's why they aren't "oppressed."
Victor Nyorani I guess it could be but in other cultures women are denied inheritance too, so I guess it is who you ask.
its almost as if when your in a world where your discriminated against when learn morality and know not to do it to others
"Glorified housewives"?
You missed the whole point of the culture
forgive her for her ignorance, she was raised under the yolk of patriarchy
Verne Bey I love your comment 😁
I like watching this videos, but this girl, I've seen her visiting other places, she's the worst, seems very uncultured, just speaking from privilege... Very loose and one dimensional arguments...
She let the people in other cultures think that all western woman are entiteled stupid persons.
What a disservis to the western world...
Katarina Tibai
^found the white knight
In Sweden there's a term called Särbo. It means two people are a couple, but decide to live on their own. Sometimes they spend a lot of time together, do vacations together and spend the night together. But at the end of the day, this is my house and that is your house. You are merely a guest in mine, a welcomed guest, but still a guest. For many elderly couples this works well, they might've lost their spouse or divorced, but found a new partner. You both have your own families, homes and lives, but you still want someone special to spend your days with. I know a couple like this, and they say they haven't fought even once. It works great for them.
Isn't that just polyamory?
@@chotuitailieu8345 Not at all. They are just two people, they are only with each other, but they live on their own.
I'm still confused @@Dixxi91
Does it mean two people living on their own, having their own relationships/families (possibly their own children), yet are still a couple?
That sounds polyamorous to me... having multiple partners with little attachment. Isn't it polyamory?
@@chotuitailieu8345 No, they aren't with other partners. They are maybe divorced, and the children have grown up and moved out. So the two people are living completely alone now. But for some reason they choose to continue to live alone instead of moving in together. Moving in together with your new partner might save money on rent, but they have the money to pay for two apartments and they like to have that space to be alone.
Does that make it any clearer?
I think I wouldn't fight so much with my fiance if we lives like that. It's more natural.
I love how the grandma linked their arms together as they walked, how one of the women picked out the food that fell on the interviewer's lap, the way the teenage girls dressed her up, how the guys threw her into the air... it was all very sweet. They all seem like warm-hearted people.
Yes :)
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that seems to be nepotist, there are childfree people in every single culture and society that people forgot about it. Great auntie or auntie should take the head of the family role too. Not just matriarch with kids.
They pick the partner they wanna make it a movie, the man has to
"this would be really expensive in london"
"Do you know burberry?"
plz fire that woman
rapelpecho so white
She was fucking terrible I agree
She’s the stereotypical white lady
how ridiculous!
@@wonhoscake1214 wasn't she asian?
"They seem like a glorified housewife, doing all the work."
First of all, it is stated that the men stay with their families and help their sisters and aunts raise their children. They don't lay around doing nothing and dating girls, they most likely help their own families and should they choose, most likely go and visit their own children "at night". Also, I have seen several comments stating that the men have built many of the buildings in that area. They don't do nothing, they just aren't the leader of the household. And it is said that they also take care of politics and such, but the grandmother and high ranking women have the final say. This interviewer is very judgemental and not very thorough and she left me with several questions. I wish there was someone else interviewing.
The grandmother did build that one house though...how do you know men made others?..
Well, she's young. And that comment come across as her personal perspective rather than some deep professional analysis. So I forgive her. More of these type of encounters will broaden her perspective and help her grow as a human being. At least she's not pretending to be some authoritative experts on the subject matter who sneakily try to pass personal prejudices as objective truths - like much of modern so called news media.
@@truth-uncensored2426 Thanks for the refinery 29 link. Very fascinating. Their social organisation is certainly worth considering by feminists worldwide. But nothing in that article mentions anything about men dominating religion, politics, & economic matters. Are you getting this perspective from other articles? Can you share the links?
You are making assumptions, Colbie, as to the extent of their responsibilities.
THIS!!!
This interviewer I don’t know why, she just annoys me a lot. “Glorified Housewives” I feel like it was rude and insensitive, these women are the same as those not in matriarchy’s but they actually get recognition. I feel like the interviewer just took to this from a tourist view. The point was to learn about their culture, not bring Britain into it. I also feel like she painted it as they were forced to stay there and continue their culture. This was just my opinion but the interviewer really did annoy me A LOT.
I saw another german documentary about it and they too said that women are responsible for everything while men are fishing, drinking und playing games. one woman from that culture in the documentary said that they dont like the men bc they are lazy and have no real responsibilities and only enjoy themselves while women have to do everything. I think thats quite unfair and due to men not having a father role in that society. they are just fucking aroung in every house and spend the womens money. so this culture probably missed the point of matriarchy or is just crazy unequal. I mean sure we don‘t know what matriarchy really means but that culture definetly is not the best example. so it‘s not her fault but your little insight.
also younger women in that documentary said they just keep up tradition bc of their family but dont want to live like it. the women she talked to were like that too. so it seems to be a dying model for a reason, them having no chemistry with the village boys. also the walking marriage might lead to forms of incest.
true that
@@Annybunny99 I amin half of reading "Leaving The Motherlake" and from the book it's obvious that things used to be different there... and men used to trade with outside work and herd animals, which was dangerous and the whole caravans got lost time to time... Their culture is probably in a state decay because of the large influence of the outside world, sadly, as most of "uncivilised" cultures... It's sad.
And I found the interviewer quite annoying aswell, she has a really naive unprepared view, it seems to me like she did little to no research before visiting, her questions are pretty much what would you expect from an average tourist.
Matěj Bláha but this book is legit, right? just read a really interesting and well written review about this book. gets me really curios. so yeah all of these youtube videos are really for stupid/superficial people. like the explanation of this culture through a situation no more than a formally from far distance(mentally, not really physical haha) meeting. If she couldn‘t even really layed back chill with these people and smoke one or sth hahah. like she has no real pleasure of meeting new people and their habits. but I‘m really used to these people, so at least they gave some basic information so that I can start from there.
This presenter is lowkey insensitive and unprofessional. Seems like she doesn’t fully appreciate this culture
bc it‘s a culture that is breaking apart slowly for several reasons, women and men from the own village not having chemistry, women being tired bc of too much responsibilities and of their men with too much free time..
@@Annybunny99 Why don't the women and men share responsibilities more?
me too dunno, I guess bc of tradition and why should the men emancipate themselves if that means more responsibilities and no more advantages? It‘s not like they are second class humans or feel like it.
She is a young woman giving the perspective from her own cultural upbringing.
@Amrita Kaur ur gay
I belong to a matrilineal tribe from the North East of India..
our traditions are very similar to the Mosuo except for the many husbands part hehe..
we marry only one man..
property is inherited by women..
man comes to live with the woman's family after marriage and our surnames do not change after marriage and our kids take the surname of the mothers 😊
zyenna nongbak Meghalaya?
zyenna nongbak Also the walking marriage is ok in my book because men aren't worth it to have a relationship with because all they want to have is a property wife.
Emma Frost I would marry a woman but I would vow to be her servant and property and every decision would be made by her.
Chris Walks I don't believe ppl should be kept as property but if you volunteer to be a servant then it's ok. Being a servant is nice but you should also be able to protect and serve your daughters.
Emma Frost what age do you believe fathers should start obeying daughters?
I feel like the interviewer doesn't understand that "working hard" isn' necessarily a bad thing. those women have the power BECAUSE of their self-sufficient work and take pride in it.
She is part of the snowflake generation where they judge first before ask, take no responsibility (power) but still demand everything. Further they talk down on other lifestyles and cultures just to keep the illusion their own way of life is superior and they are the "happy" ones. I could not stand a few minutes with that woman.
Women in the west work very hard too, it seems we just get the same freedom and respect as the Mosue ladies. They have a Lovely culture from my viewpoint
This is my culture. I come from that region.
+Jing Yun He This culture is actually how my ancestors in South India lived too :)
+Jing Yun He Really? that's cool. I had a lot of questions I wished she had asked, like if the men in the area felt they experience sexism or shaming like women do in Western culture. Seems to me like there's a lot more lenience for the men, seeing as the women can have multiple partners.. that implies that the men can too.
Also, I was wondering if the tourism is something that the people of the area approved of, or if they feel it is harmful to their traditions.
Jing Yun He, I'm Han Chinese man and I like your culture. We both are Chinese and let together sometime.
You need a boat
It looks like a really nice place to live, both in its climate and as a society with a good balance in modernity and tradition. I hope my impression is correct
“Glorifying housewives.” Seriously? 🤦🏻♀️ My god is the reporter close-minded. She thought that a matriarchy would mean women not doing anything? What on earth...
she is modern western feminist women what do you expect....in her mind matriarchy means women holding all power and 0 responsibility while man has to provide,buy car,buy house,buy burrbery,clean the house,take care of child while she still complains and whines while sitting on her non existing throne!!.....................I BET you offer this village matriarchy to western modern women they would straight out say NO THANKYOU
@@sahilkinha1208 Exactly right! This is exactly what she expected.
If they're not whores with Only Fans and half dozen abortions, then it's not true matriarchy doncha know?
@@dwillbecancelledsoon4086 Not cool, mate. I'm for egality, but equating abortion with being a whore is just low.
@@Sakisasvictorianmask Yeah not all whores murder their offspring. Aborters are much worse
The world needs to learn from the Mosou culture. The tasks and responsibilities of the women are the same as many women all over the world.... caring for children, running the house, earning the income. The difference with this culture is that they receive recognition for their value to the family.
True, also we need to learn from Viking and Celtic culture as well. Women had rights, they were in charge of the income of the household, if men had touched them in any way without permission they would be punished. I feel like the world would be a better place if we had some of the values of other cultures.
Your right, but it is glaringly obvious they are receiving that recognition because they are in complete control of their lives, there is complete absence of male dominant athorities in their lives, they don't dominate men. I wonder do me act differently when they know they are free to be replaced? To live in a society where men can't start wars would be a mother's dream.
yes and they dont seem to complain about it. they enjoy it..
And they get to fuck whoever they want. lol
The cheating horny women will love it there. They have to tend to the fields though xD
Yeah, 'cause no one in any other culture appreciates women and their contributions like childcare, running the house, and making money? What?
You can just tell that this woman is just judging everything through her British lens
Well, it is normal. She cannot have another view on the situation, because she has her own culture
Анастасия И ya but if she's doing journalism, she should phrase questions in a non intrusive way. She's basically feeding them answers with her questions instead of giving them a chance to naturally respond. She seems like a nice enough girl though.
She's learning...of course she is judging, that's what comes first before you learn about something...
4:28, that's not really happening. They don't settle, theres no man who just comes around and provides and takes care off them, once they turn 40.
I agree 100% it was a bit upsetting to see a woman sort of denounce their entire culture especially after speaking with the esteemed matriarchs. It seemed to me she simply does not appreciate the value of independence in terms of industry and hard work. Also later in the video she stated that she thought their culture would die I thought that was a very awful way to end the video, just because the young people want to venture out certainly does not spell doom for the entire cultural tradition. Seems she denounced the views of the older people and just took the desires of the young people at face value, not much of a balanced nor even remotely unbiased presentation of this fascinating and inspirational culture.
Isn't it telling that in a patriarchy men dictate responsibility and make women look after the children, but in a matriarchy women simply take everything upon themselves so the man doesn't have to do anything? Says a lot about men and women.
Best comment in the entire thread up 'till now, including all replies.
loveandlucky3 shut up and look up all female tribes in Kenya
If you want something done right, ask a woman to do it.
budi RJ This has to be one of the stupider comments I've ever seen. I am, too, a home sexual. I love to stay indoors.
Love how you come onto this video to generalize and praise a matriarchy just to boost your feminist ego.
I totally cringed when the interviewer asked them, "do u know the british brand burberry?" girl,, 🙉
They could have tried to find a grounded woman to do this instead of this airhead
Why yes, of course these rural Chinese villagers who have little to no contact with the outside world will know the british brand Burberry.
Literally came to the comments to see if anyone else felt thst shit was cringe
What berry?
Burberry is an overpriced raincoat brand that tried to scam money from ignorant people anyway. Most people I spoke to would at most purchase their trench coat and thats it. Anything else u are scammed.
No old isolated or in the street.
No children isolated or on the street.
No divorce, a family and parents always present.
Kandake, HAHA that was so funny, I red your comment and found nothing that really supports your point of view. Except yes Im pessimist, as you are. And you are from psychiatric clinic perhaps
@@dencetrov7099,
Your *obviously* pessimistic, hateful, angry, bitter, misogynistic, racist, willfully ignorantly and damning *attitude and approach* is disappointingly *not surprising* since you're apparently a *Canadian man.* Are you perhaps from or living in Ontario...?
Why not *be FAIR to women, all women,* and simply ASK, LISTEN, LEARN and TRUST enough to open yourself up psychologically, emotionally and *care* (as well as *positively support and encourage,* as we have always done so much more *for YOU)* about what all women's lives are *really like,* instead of *using them, believing and treating them* as if they *are your servants and designated abuse victims.*
THANKS, if so.
Who will fucking treat you well if you want fucking equality? No one treats men softly and most of us know life is a pain and unfair since childhood, you are uneducated sexist
Stop delete your comments!
What I say is not terminology, it is truth
I appreciate the showcasing of the Mosuo matriarchy, but the interviewer asks a few leading questions. Totally distracting. Show your appreciation of the culture by allowing interviewees to speak to their own experiences, instead of extensions of the interviewer's perception.
Snousha Gaude You win the Commentary-Of-The-Day award 🏅🎗️🏆 We need more open questions in the world. That's the way to get rid of those nasty dogmas.
This is a matrilineal society not matriarchal, in Mosuo society men, for the most part, still dominates Religion, Politics and most of the economic matters, women only have a substancial power in the family arrangement. But even then it's not true that this happens in all families, in some families it's the wife's brother (a man) who gives the last word inside the house. This type of videos doesn't show this but there are articles interviewing Mosuo members that give more details about how they truly live.
THE LAST GUY IN THE BLUE (who said he would always choose home) BOYYY I WOULD TICKLE HIS PALM SO MANY TIMES!!!
omg same!!!!!
I'd have ripped off his palm along with his clothes!
+shittykittyification lmao!
ditto
I'd be playing piano on his palm lmao
13:35
"You don't have to farm, because you probably don't know how"
Damn, grandma, you didn't have to come for urbanites like that 😂
I like that lineage and inheritance is tracked through the woman. Children always know who their mother is and take her family name. I have always found it weird that we track ours through our fathers who can deny parentage as they are not the ones whose body we come from. As for hard work, well life is hard work, at least these women maintain ownership of the fruits of their labor.
That is true! My mother, who is a genealogist, is shocked by how many children were raised by non-biological fathers with no one knowing (except for the mom) in the old days. Today, with all the DNA tests, it's harder to keep secrets.
Logically, it would make a lot more sense to pass on the heritage line to someone you are certain!
Sûre it’s called paternity fraud
This is just another reason why Patriarchy actually makes no sense.
Right it just makes no sense because we barely feel connected to the father and we are more likely to be abandoned by our father than mother. Even if rarely a mother abandoned us she still gave birth to us so it makes sense why we track down ancestory that way.
Wow I never thought about this
I was kind of disappointed in this documentary. It seems like the host really jumped into this project with an agenda. Her comments and questions and closing thoughts really showed that she was projecting her frustration with her own western culture onto the Mosuo people rather than just reporting on their lives. Finding out whether or not they have a feminist issue (or rather a solution to her cultures feminist issue) seemed to be her goal. Which, even to me, a proponent of equal rights among genders, seemed a little unfair and unprofessional.
Very well said! Also the way that she said "have you heard of a company called Burberry" bothered me. It seemed to me like she was equating a modern British company's style to traditional garb and belittling the culture (" we have that, too!") as opposed to acknowledging that the design could be in a long list of things the British have appropriated from their territories. If promoting the history of colonialism was her goal, it wasn't explicit.
+Asha Mae I didn't take it that way at all... in fact I thought she meant the opposite...
Vice journalists are not really known for their professionalism unfortunately
I didn't get that impression at all. If anything, I thought it did a pretty good job about showing the pros and the cons. also, it was a 24 minute documentary on a culture you probably never heard about until now. so perhaps you should take your own criticism and not project.
headoverheels88 As a historian (my field of study) I am trained to look for bias. It can often be hard to spot for the untrained eye. History and journalism are similar in many respects and an attempt to report on information unbiasedly is always the goal. But thank you, I shall take you comment on the culture I most certainly have heard of in stride and in the future I won't assume anything about anyone.
Funny how in a matriarchy the women are still doing all the hard work and the men are happy as can be. Come on, where's the oppression, the shaming and controlling of men's bodies, the constant fear of what might happen to you if you go to the wrong place at the wrong time and the knowledge that you're only valued for your looks so long as you still have them? A matriarchy and patriarchy are supposed to be the same, just with the genders switched around right? /s
I dont think you know what a matriarchy is...
Angrybirds 17 Notice the /s at the end. I was being sarcastic.
Human female evolutionary path is in many ways parallel, but distinct from human males. Neuro-typical females naturally organize households and run communities differently than neuro-typical human males. Nobody's superior. It's a neutral, impersonal dynamic. Urban or rural, women are not better. Only statistically measurably better for your health ;-)
tnt ntn Xenomorph ball just letting y'all two know that you're both acting like ignorant children and I'm not having these comments clog up my notifs
Sims Just pointing out his grammar and stupidity.
It's funny that you say glorifying housewives when they're running businesses and making all of the decisions and leading the households. Patriarchy isn't men doing no work, so why would matriarchy be women doing no work? lol
Because a patriarchy women are completely controlled by their husbands and are responsible for household chores and children bearing while the man earns the bread but here men still have their freedom and don’t have to work in the home or raise the children and also don’t have to be the bread winner? That said I would rather be like this culture where the women have to do everything, at least they are still their own person
@@WeiYinChan but there not?
@@WeiYinChan I've noticed that most men in marraiges are controlled by their wives and scared of upsetting them. Women normally handle finances that the man brings home and men have to get their wvie's permission before they can go out with theur boys. I really dont see marraiges where the women is being controlled, quite the oppsosite.
@@wadewill5934 i think she's talking about other cultures, not the West. The women in the west(especially the white women) live on easy mode. I can't say the same to us Sub-saharans and our Arab sisters
@@wadewill5934 Your answer might be right for America and some western European countries, but in many, many other eastern European and Asian countries, women are still controlled by their husbans.
everyone is skinny because they work their asses off for everything they have, it's no mystery
Women working hard....damn, I guess you have to see it to believe it. You guys are good at working hard on your hair, style and makeup....that's about it.
you just contradicted to yourself by saying you have to see it to believe it... you saw it in this video. Then you claimed women are only good at working hard on hair, style, and makeup.
Well they r not skinny tho. Maybe u r too...
Catherine Liu Yah, but you forgot the sarcasm when I compared hair, style and makeup to actual work. sorry, but every girl who was working with us were just lazy, they can't work hard, couldn't learn how to script when all the guys learned it, couldn't get basic programming....but their hair and makeup was always perfect.
Nah, that's not it. They just don't gorge on carbs like most people in Western societies, whilst sitting on their butts all day long.
They're really good looking people...
Exactly what I was thinking
They all looked like average looking Asian people, I didn't really see any great lookers, the host was the most attractive.
+Adam Farrell A fellow hetalian ^_^
AliceTheHetalian
Sorta, I've only watched some clips of the show, and can't really stand watching it for prolonged periods because it gets kinda annoying, but I really like the concept and characters, especially the fan interpretations and art, I think what the fans make much more lives up to what Hetalia could of been.
Interesting
at 7:45 you don't get it: they do work harder but they work for them, their families, themselves. I think we need both men and women working together but this is a perfect example of how women can form an entire community, a culture, alone. They work a lot but they don't give their hard work to men.
You are right. As a matter of fact，it's common that women work hard while men do nothing except gambling/hanging around in some poor countrysides of China. In cities you can find women and men both work hard for economic pressure but in countryside, male do take exploitive advantage of female in working, farming, breeding...So this Mosuo culture is cool to some extent because women work for themselves and inherit property from their mons to their daughters. However there's bad sides while the laws of marriage are not fitted for them....and with the fast developing tourism some bad influence may appear in the future..
Good comment it's just it's 17:45
Yeah if women and men work hard together and stop discriminating each other, society will be more productive and thrives.
jesus, that glorified house wives comment is infuriating. She wants to be queen and doesn't understand that having power and the final say means pressure and responsibility, that's just how it is man or woman. Her idea of matriarchy is women live a luxurious life and she gets to live as a queen while the men do her bidding? Good luck with that attitude.
The reporter is short-sighted. Working in and around your house brings joy. Would she rather the women scatter all over all day long then return to their homes? Just because their work is being done at the home does not mean the women are somehow "glorified housewives." Hard work that you get to enjoy at the end of each day is one of life's purest joys, as with working alongside your family and children.
So what if they are glorified housewives. My mother is a housewife and she had sacrificed and work very hard her life and deserved just as much credit as any professional women.
the women are tired but they take pride in their role in the family and their joy in that is what matters
EdenSphinxTV you mean if men would learn their place in modern society, as modern women are already self reliant with freedom to work and have family. Men just need to learn to find a place of their own without relying on women to do their house works. Basically men need to learn how to live on their own live without women. It will peace for women once that happens.
KayraR1221 just as men in western countries.
Dragonze Watermellon
So its our fault? We did everything for you and your still mad at us? No wonder why all of my exes are the same.
+Dragonze Watermellon
You mean bachelors and MGTOWs? They do everything themselves, don't they? Since when were men incapable of living without women? In their culture, responsibility and authority are tied, as it should be. Their culture, roles reversed, will be men being responsible for income and meals ( which most of OUR cultures already do ), but men get to sleep with whoever they want, ask their women to leave before morning because they need to get back to work, and moms have no legal or parenting rights over their kids. In our culture, men get the responsibility but women get the authority, which, doesn't work. It's either shared, or one side gets both. Yet, here you are still talking about men needing to learn their place blah blah blah.
Ghost_Troupe you are shit
The mosuo women are so sweet and caring , its obvious when you see the one girl pick the food off the interviews lap that she accidentally spilled .
Personally I would love to live like this. Not because the women are in charge or even that it can be polyamourous openly but just the idea that I could stay with my family forever without having to worry about leaving. I think they should also do a study on the senior citizens happiness. It would be interesting to compare it to the western seniors happiness.
I like my women cooking not driving and with a sheet on their head.
There is no such thing as matriarchy anyway you people don't understand the difference between matriarchal society and matrilineal society it is not a matriarchal society it is just a matrilineal society where only grooms go to brides home and women are the providers or head of the family but not the protectors. Men are still protectors and head of the society here people always mix them up patrilineal is not patriarchy and matrilineal is not also matriarchy
"Mothers will pretend not to hear even if they do"...😂😂😂
GROSS🤢 13 YEAR OLDS! thats the part i hate about this society
@@coolbeans2345 They're not forced to do it
@@marirose313 just because something is consentual doesnt mean its right. Maybe the boys are forced though. The point is they are still children and letting them be so sexually active at that age is just terrible parenting!
@@borintobunto6589 no that's still nasty, 13 year olds should NOT be having sex, that's so disgusting in a thousand different ways
@@kimaya.3563 you didn't explaine a single thing.... why should someone listen to a single word from you? you just think it is nasty so everyone has to think that way. great thought, really, your the best teacher i ever saw.
It's so sad to see beautiful and unique traditions and ways of life being co-opted by tourism. But it also makes sense to see the young womens' struggle. I hope their culture survives.
I mean, if not for tourism, how would the economy work? they wouldn't be able to sell their goods. whats wrong with other people knowing their tradition?
+ivlust you're right but from this video it seems like tourism is taking over that place and taking part in destroying this culture. It's sad
In the patriarchal society, the women aren't happy unlike in the matriarchal both males and females are happy. And if they are not they are allowed to leave unlike in a patriarchal society.
Typical liberal who stay and watch this in well ac'ed room and want other people to live poor and primitive lives so can maintain a 'multiculure'
Liebe Bryna Hope for the best..
It's so strange that people find not working and having a lazy life as better than working and taking care of and making the final decisions. At the end of the day the women in the society are respected and seen as the decision-makers and head of household. I think that is way more respectful than just hanging around the house doing nothing. lol
+HelloMyNamelsBanana The only reason men work is to get women... If we don't have to why would we?
Marcus R whats really sad.. lol Living your whole life for women
HelloMyNamelsBanana Y'all finished or Y'all done? Why would you think men care about your opinion of men? You trying to define man's role or think you can shame them is a joke.
Marcus R The fuck are you talking about? Did I say I was a woman?
HelloMyNamelsBanana ok banana...
I'm from Meghalaya(Shillong)...here women after they get married the Woman doesn't have to leave her family instead the husband will come and stay to his Wife's house and they would never change their surname to their husband instead the children will take their Mother's surname and the women will Inherited all the family Property but Woman marry to only one man...i love where i came from and it makes us Unique
Much respect
I like that family concept. If only my big family is not spreasing and stay together it will be fun, to play with cousin.
I felt beautiful as a woman watching these amazing women moving thru centuries of culture, heritage and tradition in their everyday normal. This culture is empowering and inspirational. However, I don't like the growing number of pervy tourist coming there with their exploitive, subjective, motives towards these women and the men of "their" clans/tribal way of life; only viewing the Mosuo customs as a form of debauchery and free women labor force. A place where men are living laissez-faire lifestyles that outsiders now want to get in on as exploitive sexual/cheap labor trade. It should be an international crime for anyone to exploit any global indigenous culture. May Mosuo matriarchal families continue to thrive and live long, healthy, generational existences.
I think you would have been better suited as the reporter.
So, you view their women as empowering, but at the same time being exploited by men? Makes zero sense. That's like saying our men are empowered with all responsibilities and work, an inspiration for all boys, and women who want to become housewives are just exploiting male labor. Also, nowhere in this video said anything about pervy tourists. And if you say they are taking advantage of local women, you are saying those women don't have any agency to decide for themselves.
Molly Marmalade
There is no such thing as patriarchy. A patriarchy would be men protecting men at the expense of sacrificing women. It doesn’t work. Imagine two tribes of cavemen. One sacrifices men to prosper women, the other doing the opposite. After a few huge hit from natural disasters or resource war from other tribes, which will eventually die off? We all have the genes to protect women at all costs and treat men like shit, which, you call “patriarchy”? It has nothing to do with who is stronger or smarter. Healthy wombs are limited. Sperms are of no value as 1 can do the job of 20. Which is also why women are allowed to be selfish, or even encouraged to be egocentric, while selfish behaviors of men are frowned upon, and self sacrifice of men are seen as good act. 5% of men rise to power because they are great at securing resources against other tribes. Women taking those responsibilities, again, would be risking wombs. That was what survived.
Molly Marmalade
No one is jealous, please. Being able to stay home is a luxury. The more underdeveloped and impoverished a region is, the more female labor you see. You think women breaking their backs working at tea plantations under the sun feels empowered that they are strong enough to do hard labor? And sees staying at home as being locked up as slaves? You should stop reading books on trash ideology and talk to them. Go visit non first world countries, you’ll witness a lot of “empowered” “strong” women working typically men’s jobs, and like male peers, working 12hrs a day. So, just screw up U.S.’s economy into depression and women will start “becoming strong” to do male labor.
Molly Marmalade
You obviously know nothing about archeology of civilization and human evolution. Problem with women like you is you see only the top 5% of men, envy what they have and the rest of men working the mines, sewers, furnace, are just invisible to you. 98% of deaths from working hazards are of men. Must be patriarchy being sexist because dying at work is a male privilege. There is no such thing as patriarchy. A society that sacrifice the ones who carries wombs can’t populate the entire Earth. Maybe now we can, but in the past we can’t, so our genes carries that tendency to value young women over resources and value resources over lives of men. The funny thing is you want men to turn off this switch, but when they do, it’s not what you think will happen. Those men already exists, it’s MGTOW. They want nothing from women.
this is literally my dream job. Travel around the world, meet new people, hear their stories
J. L. Aka do nothing productive lol
@xXsilentvatoxx,
DAMN! Why do you nasty responders here so much enjoy outing your negative and hateful selves while attempting to destroy the joy and hope of others who are positive and want the best for themselves and all others, in more peaceful evolution?!?
Working as an international travel progamme host is a career of enjoying life and learning from and sharing life experiences with a vast myriad of interesting, friendly people (as most locals are with tourists who display acceptance and respectful overt interest in 'others'), while educating and entertaining others who screen the programme, that editing and a lot of other skilled and creative negotiations, labour and marketing go into.
@@walkersmith2791,
Oh, are you stating there hasn't been *anything systemic in place, societally, that overlords and oppresses women and girls, and has done for several millennia?* Societal systems working against women and girls progressing and ascending at the same rate as men and boys, in order to move ahead in mind and life, called: *misogyny, patriarchy, male-biased sexism, racism, shadeism, classism, casteism, ableism, sizeism, etc...?* Please, *take some interest, and ask and listen to what are our lives have really been like,* we have been humane, trusting, caring and supportive and have always listened to you, taken care and do for you, damn, you even expect it via privilege and entitlement (rather than individual earning and appreciation)! Why not also *ask how and when we know we've been held back when we knew* we could learn, do and wanted to have access to progressive opportunities we should have and would have *were we men, boys, or men of European descent, etc.?* Please, get *with the curve* instead of dragging everyone down, trailing behind it, trying to return to a past that was incredibly stifling for all except men of the majority population. It is very simple, just OPEN YOURSELF UP to positive change for us ALL, psychologically, emotionally and humanely, simply *BE FAIR to us, all of us.* Thanks, if so.
Ikr
Do it!
They had me at " women can have as many bfs as they like" ✊🏾🤗
not at same time dear... I think a man cannot have two women at same time.
nature giver
K
Agnes M : like you don't already.
But women also do all the work, manage the finances and make most of the money. The men mostly just do whatever the fuck they want and occasionally be a father figure to the children, a role which is shared by their male relatives hahahahhaah.
It's a pretty difficult trade mate.
Agnes M fuck the bitches opinions these thirsty man whores have tiny opinions like themselves. They mad cause they aren't the only ones anymore
Why didn't they hire an anthropologist to conduct the documentary? That would seem more appropriate.
they could've at least chosen someone who could view this culture with far less prejudices and expectations tbh
i agree
This is normal for many Native Americans also. When you are brought up around and in a matriarchy , it is not a shock, it is the way things are and men think it's cool
@TheLaughingMan0603 he said many not all.
@Knight Sac get out of your ignorant box and do some research.
@Knight Sac actually, most native american
farming bands were matriarchal
@@asmitajalote1153 yes! my ancestors (Potawatomi, descended from Anishnaabe) from what research I've done were about a healthy balance between the genders; the agricultural property was passed down from mother to daughter for example, and the men were just as responsible/in charge as the women, but would do tasks to assist the women if needed or if it made life easier on the tribe as a whole to help when needed.
@Netsosie, It's quite thatthe Mosuo migrated to the US. Many of the native tribes look Oriental and share similar culture e g. In their tents, yurts, clothing, totem Poles and sundances... THERE ought to be more research into the connection between the Siberians,, Mongolian, Tibetans and the ethnic tribes of China.
GOOD housewifery should be glorified! Women work harder than men EVERYWHERE and housewives in most parts of the world are seen as expendable workers. Id rather do the hard labour of a masuo and be appreciated and earn prestige than do the hard labour of womanhood in any other place where my work is just patronized condescended too and im a throwaway when i get too old and un pretty. Thats some bullshit.
+sj4389gee The west is most definitely a patriarchy. Women earn 79% of the dollar that men earn for the same exact jobs. This doesn't mean they aren't working as hard, they are literally doing the exact same work, but aren't paid the same. And you act like the men of the west are forced to work in office settings against their will to support their family which is most definitely not the case.
***** I'm ignorant? Yet you sit here and 'inform' me about how the wage gap is a myth through over generalized sexist statements... The wage gap is calculated based off annual salaries, but you are just contradicting your own claim by proving how it is calculated. Regardless of whether or not women and men earn the same for a particular job, if you are telling me how it is calculated, you are admitting that there is in fact a gap on a national level.
***** At this point I don't even know what to say. I cannot reason with a person who says 'sexist or not it is the truth' and then goes and justifies that statement through opinion about stereotypical traits of the sexist, claiming it is biology. I see no point and continuing on here.
***** No. There is nothing wrong with stating obvious facts, but using those facts to justify an opinion is where the problem lies. And you keep on saying 'biology' like I am supposed to drop my stance just because of 'science' but 1) you are using the science to back up facts, not your opinion. So I do not disagree with the science, just your opinion. 2) Testosterone and brain function based on gender would be considered chemistry... not biology...
***** I've never said they purposefully pay women less. There are no laws that say women and men have to earn the same for the same job, but there are no laws that punish companies if they don't give equal pay. That's why there is such a large gray area. They aren't breaking the law because there is no law. And to further answer, firing women to cut costs is blatant discrimination. If you fire all women working for a certain company, somebody will need to fill those vacancies, and if woman were fired to cut costs, then the company probably won't hire women to replace the fired ones.
of course matriarchy should come with work. this isnt a society of queens. this is rural China. They have all the respect in the world for what they do for their families, but I guess all you were interested in was women using men for comfort and that in itself is sexist. women are capable of doing it themselves, and its wonderful. I would like to see their traditions evolve with the development of the area though.
+ivlust I agree. I realize also that people are not considering the fact that many women in western society are single parents who work their arses off. If there was a system like this then they wouldn't need to bed men to care for the children. The girls in the village do not realize that the grass may not be greener on the other side.
+ivlust I think the west has all the wrong image of what 'having the power' means. This documentary is a great example of what comes with getting the power!
It doesn't need to increase in "development"! They are already happy without air pollution, fluoridated water, vagrancy laws, massively large numbers of murders a day, racial discrimination, deceptive media, etc...! I say, whether if that society remains a matriarchy or not, leave it the way it is! It's so peaceful there! Their society should NOT copy American society!
officialmer
Nigga how many women do you see making houses? Almost 5% of women to 95% of men are working on low payed shit jobs that need strength
PENNYWISE In many "Indigenous cultures" women build the housing
"Whose tendency to go wherever their dick points can be unreliable"
Whoah what a rough entry there...
so basically, women took on twice the workload
+Irene Wang yes, but in a patriarchy is same, men work more.
Leela Satya Obviously, the data is straight forward but the new era discards data that doesn't cement their point.
+Irene Wang These women can buy me for all I care. I am sick of the western life style. It seems this has proven women aren't engaged in a violent activity with a working system. All men need to do is obey women and do minimal work? I wish I knew mandarin, I'd end up here.
+Leela Satya hmm not really. In a traditional Western environment men do the paid work whilst women do cooking/cleaning/child-raising. It seems that in this culture the women do everything.
The makers of this video must be fucking idiots. These goddamn idiot wannabe feminists. Just like those islam loving bitches. Where are the real cynical brave feminists?
[response to the comment said by the show host at 7:57] They're so thin because they eat more fat and proteins, and less carbs, and they live a very physical life with low stress.
They're thin because they use a lot of energy doing physical activities. Nothing else.
very true its the chinese gene
Of course false. Not all Chinese are thin. Norther Chinese are not
@@d0lly4ngel It even says they are mosuo people not tibetans
@@d0lly4ngel so you think that people think that musuo people are chinese because tibet is located in china? that makes zero sense. Tibetans are a separate ethnic group
I agree with the weaver lady; Mosuo IS the most progressive culture in the world. Just think: no male domination, no lying, cheating, stealing, hitting, intimidating, wars; bombing. Just peace, quiet, and getting on with the daily living. Wow! I love it!!! And another thing, the children aren't being traumatized with fighting, family break-ups, or having to leave their homes, or be dragged from pillar-to-post as the single mom tries to find work, a safe living environment, babysitters, and schools while dad indulges his ego and refuses to pay child support. This is MUCH better. The kids stay with their moms, and the dads can visit. The kids get grandmother, mother, sisters, aunties, and lots to eat in a stable, safe environment. Sounds like a good deal to me.
West Winds I like how you blame men but don’t talk about the piece of shit moms too who do the same shit. I too like this culture because it actually makes women get off their entitled high horse and work, not like in the West where men are expected to be providers even tho we have equality. Western women couldn’t live like this because they have it easy they don’t have to do this, I guarantee you that if women had to do the work these women do they would bitch and moan until men did the work because that’s how the West is.
I agree, it is much more peaceful and progressive.
WTF? This Matriarch has problems of its own dude lol just because you watched a 12 minute video from vice on it ddoesn't make you an expert. They aren't just "getting along" with no issues whatsoever cmon now wtf
1. You can’t have life without at least simple arguments and, if you can get into simple arguments you can get into wars. 2. My dad is a way better parent then my mom so stop putting labels on dads.
3. Matriarchy would change meh animes 😢
11kwright 95%?!?!?!? All my friends dads are better too! Your obviously pulling that number out of your head.
I feel like this isn't so much a matriarchy as simply a place where women get recognition-but we view it as a matriarchy because we're so used to living in a patriarchy
@Ismael Barrera but there are exceptions like these. Exceptions show us that we Can live differently and culture is a social construct. Culture, structures and systems are never "natural" and don't follow an universal or obligatory law. We create them and decide!
@A. Wyatt Mann it's not about progress. It's whether they have existed or not because they show us that it is possible. If we're talking about progress -- most patriarchal countries today are underdeveloped and the progressive countries are the ones who have moved on past patriarchal societies and recognized that it's not beneficial. That means that Patriarchats will eventually die out.
@A. Wyatt Mann Haha! Good laugh though.
Best regards,
Your scientist, who works with data every day :-)
How "row"-mantic. Someone give this woman a Pulitzer.
I completely did not realize why she said it like that until now 👏
Hahahahahahaha!!!
I was about to comment about that 😂😃
She lost me in the beginning about men thinking with theirs dicks, though the men that didn't think with theirs dick created the world has we know it, Tesla Wright Brothers, Isaac Newton go figure women are a distraction i suppose.
Niyi Boots They still think with their dick. Who do they blame when they can't control their perverted behavior? A woman's outfit.
As a dude from Latvia i can almost call my country as matriarchal too because 56% of latvian population are women and it is a VERY VERY common thing that mothers are growing their children alone without the fathers cause of wide spread alcoholism and drug use... Men are really easy to fall down into addicitions and that basically ruins every family here so women are extra strong here.
But the strongest of them all is my mum! : D
VIESTURS MARTS If women do all the work because the father is a dead beat then it's still not a Matriarchy. Matriarchy hold women on an important position and they are the head of everything.
Yes, i realise that. : D
That's why i said "almost".
VIESTURS MARTS Well almost is not good enough. I think women should be the head of the household since they do more than men. Since you are on a feminist channel as a dude,Do you believe that Matriarchy is the road to peace?
In some aspects... definitely yes.
VIESTURS MARTS I hope you completely agree one day because every Matriarchy village or tribe has the lowest crime rate even the larger ones like in India and Saudi Arabia. Most Native American tribes were Matriarchy too and the women build those weird looking tents.
the reporter/narrator wasn't very good.
Fuyuko Yukiyama lolz, gotta love the Japanese criticism
She was garbage
He was sneering and I think scared.
@Black Knight Fool - But here we saw the women gathering the resources. Or perhaps the reporter did not give sufficient time to what the men were doing during the day? Was their a chief here? It seemed that the grandmothers were nominal chiefs although one elder woman did let slip that in fact the elder men made the crucial decisions. Hard to know with such slapdash reporting.
Inheritance from mother to daughter makes infinitely more sense than father to son. It guarantees that the child is her biological child, there’s no guarantee for men.
thats why virginity was highly praised
This reminds me of a group of lions to be honest, where lionesses take care of everything - and I really like it.
no wavvez yes
Wow. You are correct. The lioness provides the food, raise cubs and her sisters babysit them.
He is the one protecting their children/ If he dies his cubs die as well.
The lion is not the leader but the protector, so they give him the best food so he stays strong. If he gets weak, he will be replaced quickly and no one will care for him.
Lion protects his children from other lions until death while female lions are happy to sleep with their own child murderers.
The traditional clothes are beautiful.
yess
I have read a book about this place years ago and i am so surprised it is so different than I have imagined. It is actually so modern and people seems so happy and friendly. That's absolutely somewhere I am going to visit in future.
it bothers me how much she views this beautiful culture through only a western perspective
Go live there then
@@tell6969 lol why are you so offended
if i get super rich oneday, i promise i will buy an island and start a nation only for girls.
+xinglin jiang thank you ur an angel
+Platinum Mind Don't blame her
she still doesnt know where babies come from
+Somalisavage0 all sex between two people is normal sex + there is technology they can allow two women with seperate eggs to create offspring
+xinglin jiang That sounds hella boring if you ask me.
Sage Thinker Fatima Al-Fihri: founded the oldest university in the world
Hedt Lamarr: co-invented technology which enabled wireless communication, actress
Rosalind Franklin: discovered the double helical structure of DNA
Jeannette Rankin: was elected for congress 4 years before women could vote nationally
Bessie Coleman: was one of the first african-american airplane pilots
Ching Shih: was one of the most successful and feared pirates in history
Female Inventors such as Mary Anderson, Barbra Askins, Patricia Billings, Marion Donovan, Sally Fox, Bette Nesmith Graham, Dr. Temple Grandin,Ruth Handler, Dr. Grace Murray Hopper, Mary Phelps Jacob, Margaret Knight, Stephanie Kwolek, Ann Moore, Lyda Newman, Patsy Sherman, dr. Giuliana Tesoro, Ruth Wakefield, and Rachel Zimmerman (Including Many MANY more) have done more in their lifetimes than your whole family will. Don't tell me women aren't inventors. Educate yourself, there are as many female inventors as there male ones.
I am a Chinese man. I could not fathom why there is even an issue about women are not equal to a man? All men have a mother, isn't it? All mother is a woman, is it not? You love and adore and respect your mother. do you not? I want my mother to be treated equal to any man, don't you? SO WHAT SEEMS TO BE THE PROBLEM?
For all the people commenting: why are the men happy? Why aren't they body shamed? And stuff like that, I don't think you guys know what a matriarchy is...
Angrybirds 19 whel it explains why women arent mean and abusive as men thats why the men live happy there
YOYOYO mynaem
Complete nonsense.
Check the statistics. Over half of men who (violently?) rape women were raped as a child by an adult female, women have almost complete control over children's lives and they raise monsters who serial rape women. You're wrong. You're ignoring facts, women have gotten out of jail time by claiming 10 year old boys seduced them into sex, and everyone around believes them. Sad.
@@jelenatomic6543 How the hell do any of you know whether or not the men are body shamed? I just scrolled through comments right above yours saying the guys in this village are good looking and postulating its because their lives revolve around getting sex. Further, how do you know the how happy the men are? I could easily make a documentary of an Amish village showing happy and content women and use that to "prove" women are happier under patriarchy. Actually statistics show women HAVE gotten less happy as society has gotten less patriarchal.
@@Celisar1 Even everyday feminism admits women commit most child abuse, factophobe:
everydayfeminism.com/2014/10/feminism-against-child-abuse/
If she says one more thing about her home country I’m gonna scream
She’s not from London. She hasn’t an English accent and she’s very crude in the way she speaks
@@daisyroots8926 Being British doesn't mean she can't be crude.
Broadly spends a week with China’s Mosuo tribe, one of the world’s last matriarchies, to see what life is like in “The Land Where Women Rule.”
This is so interesting. Thanks for showing us Broadly!
+Broadly really great piece! enjoyed every minute of it.
+Broadly is this a matriarchial or a matrilineal system?
+Elena Chen They are matrilineal: "The Mosuo culture does have characteristics of a matriarchal society in which women are the head of the household, the property is passed down through the female line and the women make business decisions but political power tends to be in the hands of males, disqualifying them from matriarchy status."
+cigall I was gonna say that too. I read that materiality and matriarchy are often confused. Been reading any Steven Harrell lately? :)
17:05 "I'm in charge here. I have the final say". Yaaaass! Set the whole record straight. I love this!
Oh please can't you read between the lines, Men know how to convince women better than women will ever know. Men don't have to work, take responsibility can get sex, and enjoy life that's what most beta men want.
Your comment is a proof that feminists don't want equality, but female domination.
There are no girls on the internet bro i'm not even feminist that's called ACTING LIKE A GIRL😂😂😂 you clearly have never had a girlfriend💀💀💀
@@venus9312 I'm a girl, dumb bitch. I'm not even talking to you, shut yo bitch ass up, nigga.
Honestly same lmfao i was like PERIODT GIRL
It's simply really. If they're happy with their lives what else matters.
The presenter is clueless though. This is rural life, not city life. They're self sufficient which means a lot of responsibility.
In the beginning, The host got so happy knowing it was a matriarchy . But as the video went on her smile started to fade away knowing how much responsibility is required to be a leader. That cracked me up. 😂😂😂 . Western Women want power but without the responsibility. You all should learn from this community before demanding so much power and so quickly.
There’s western women who are competent, you’re generalizing like half of the population
@@claireeeeee655 When the majority of the population fits the description, generalizing is what's required. ps. 'generalizing' isn't a "'bad word"', it's a word with a certain meaning which is appropriate here.
@@RogueIntel you’re avoiding me saying that there is competent women
@@claireeeeee655 I never said there arent any. I'm saying Women like Kamala Harris, Michelle Obama, Ghislaine Maxwell, Hollywood Actresses/Singers are NOT competant at all. They are infact corrrupt. They are always seen with propaganda and rants for rights in their mouth. They talk nothing about responsibilities. And these womens are the ones THE WEST deify. They deserve to be vilified. And you my friend, You are the one avoiding facts.
@@RogueIntel Michelle Obama is competent, and please give me your “facts” with credible sources then I’ll believe you.
That British lady seems bit disappointed by their culture.
I hate such people who can't appreciate other cultures.
Anand Nair I don't think she is..just realistic facts
she cant handle the farm work
She was too silly and goofy for this assignment.
Ana Mm she thought the women there were going to be slaved over by men and pampered but quickly realized they had to work hard unlike western women now a days who have it easy.
This interviewer always appears bias in her vids.
I don't agree with her summary that this life style is anything close to being a house wife because the women actually are comparable to men in a patriarch. Men work really hard and are the bread winners. That's ALOT of stress on their conscious. Obviously a single mom is the same. The best thing about their culture is that the blood family sticks together and make gains for the family. Everyone has a role in the family. This video has washed away so many pressures about my own life. Thanks !
I loved her face when she realized women have to do all the work, it's like old traditional culture but reversed. Feminists like the pros but frown at the cons
@@11kwright
You sound very bitter. Quite sad, really. Someone hurt you?
@@11kwright u talk as if every man in patriarchal society is destructive to their family and that men are inherently destructive to families. thats not true. men can and have been caring loving and HARD WORKING in building their families as well. men can use their strength to protect and their power to nurture. not saying that this power model hasnt led to issues wen gone to an extreme, but its wrong to talk about all men as if theyre all violent monsters women need to break free of and do away with. men have purpose too! men and women should work together and respect eachother.
I hope their kids carry on these traditions. They seem so happy there. It's kinda similar to the West in an odd way, except they are free to live. A lot of women are breadwinners, make decisions but aren't allowed to live free. Thanks Broadly!!
Meanwhile women in the west are the most privileged group in the west.
+Alyssa Vy It's false comparison. One should not & cannot truthfully compare the plight of women in Saudi Arabia (for example) to those women face in The West. These are different cultures & problems faced by women in various parts of the world & by making this comparison it attempts to dismiss the real problems women face in the west by comparing them to problems women face in KSA,Africa, Iran, etc.. It's false comparison which could be applied to virtually any Western problem when compared to the problems people face around the world. People can & cont. to protest to bring awareness to multitude of problems simultaneously
Eva Kaye a
It's sad that you think that it's "glorifying housewives". Self sustained living IS hard work my dear. It also has a very small carbon footprint. Matriachal rule means that with great power comes great responsibility and hard work.They run a village. Not a household. And at the end of the day, running a village requires an incredible amount of diverse skills to maintain. And incredibly intense challenges to deal with. Big Respect for these women.
There is no such thing as matriarchy anyway you people don't understand the difference between matriarchal society and matrilineal society it is not a matriarchal society it is just a matrilineal society where only grooms go to brides home and women are the providers or head of the family but not the protectors. Men are still protectors and head of the society here people always mix them up patrilineal is not patriarchy and matrilineal is not also matriarchy
It is certainly safer for women to stay in their family homes, and have their family supporting them; abuse happens so often in the world because the woman is isolated from her birth family.
Doesn't seem like there is a lot of reason for men to be around.
If men won't pitch in and help run the household, why not just send them to the big city?
I bet the brothers and sons do a lot of work around the home, and childcare also.
Look at them, do they look like hard muscular farmers?
Also before the nuclear familly, families generally were much closer, which seems superior.
Because they are men's children too lol.
And I don't know why men don't revolte here against the system.
They have no rights no nothing.
@@rex2258 When you go thru pregnancy and childbirth and breast feeding, you too can have more reproductive rights.
Squirting a wad doesn't mean much.
@@rex2258 they, the men sure smile alot under that much 'oppression'
@@rex2258 they, the men sure smile alot under that much 'oppression'
Please dont look at their life from your experience and perspective. Just dont pass comment about right or wrong. Its their life their culture and traditions let it be what is a problem?
Hear me out. I find it amazing that somewhere in the world women are regarded higher then men, but I believe that we should have no patriarchy or matriarchy so that we can all be equal. Though I know it is a dream and never will happen.
We are all equal. The universe doesn't care what you have between your legs. Everything that we do has minimal impact on the world as a whole. We will all die.
Shadow Gabriel In a perfect world yes, but individuals make changes and sadly it does matter what is in between your legs. Well to be honest the universe doesn't give a fuck about you, the earth, our sun, our solar system, our galaxy, or our local group. There are millions if not billions of these across the entire universe, and we aren't even a quark in the grand scheme of things.
I agree. I think people should just focus on being happy not having to be better or prove they can do it all to the other gender.
it will happen
Matriarchy is feminine and the rule of the mother - patriarch is masculine and the rule of the father. These energies work extremely well if the humans stop trying to re-write mother nature's rules! It is not one energy over the other - it is a balance just like ying and yang. That is what brings in the conflict, the meddling humans in power throwing a spanner in the works to keep humanity in chaos and under control.
What's the point of having all these husbands and lovers if you're the one still doing all the hard work and supporting your children alone???
Because the men are the ones helping to build houses, road and all the labour intensive work. They only work for their families.
There is no violence, addiction or abuse. I love their culture.
@@hildagilbert2941 how damaged you must be to have such low standard of just a couple things you don't want and not actually thinking about the things you DO WANT from a partner. The partner is not even a good word for that since there are no shared responsibilities. I think men and women should help each other, that is a lot better culture.
@@renenetatm8222 holy shit, shut the fuck up, whyre you so butthurt over this culture
kim woobin was a bit unexpected
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It's fascinating how very competent all the women are. They are working no harder than they would in a "traditional" marriage--perhaps less because they don't have to cater to men or bother with them most of the time. They are surrounded by family yet live independently.
Sandy Lewis This is how nature has intended it until the horrid plague called men ruin this peaceful way of living.
Emma Frost you’re right.
Definitely! I'm an expert on men, having raised them in captivity. A group of women is more productive and happier than one captive woman in a male-dominated household. There was a study done that proved that a dollar in a woman's hands is used 90% for the family. In a man's hands, that same dollar is lucky to see 10% going towards the family. Jest sayin'....>^;^
Sandy Lewis 5% goes to the family and the other 5% goes to the fling they knocked up behind the wife's back. But maybe Im being generous,chances are high that only 1% goes to the family since most men are deadbeat. They all want children but chicken out of their responsibilities in the long run and blame the woman somehow for "Tricking" them.
Sandy Lewis And yes I agree that a place where women rule is the best place for girls to grow up in. Imagine all the potential without Patriarchy influences and the peace. Women are ofcourse more productive and happier with female comrades.
Mosuo isn't only or last matriarchy group in China, they are the most famous one because the "walking marriage". I know there are few Miao and people from native of Hai Nan are also been somewhat matriarchy, but the point is the same, women have the power because they work more, so much more than their men, take care of the whole family, power comes from that.
My family is from a lost matriarchy family group from Si Chuan, we lost our origin and family record in last 100 years wars, but we are well integrated into modern world, still keeping some of the traditions, in our family, women are usually having the higher achievements in everything, and doing more for the family than their husbands, for my grandma's generation, nearly every female is teacher or professor, my mom's generation, every female is engineer.
So women make every big decisions in family, every child in my family, specially the female, take the mother's family name, their marriages and educations are most important things in family, but I do enjoy living in the family as a male, because it's less pressure from family.
彝族？
我家里带点客家背景,具体族谱因为内战和后来的文革已经没法查了.
羡慕
@@Bytional 客家人不是汉族吗？
Westerners thinking men are oppressing women in the western cultural sphere is beyond hilarious. You guys are the global community channel.
Men talking about women's experiences is the funniest thing I've seen today 😂
@@dundundun430 are you stupid? Can’t a human being observe and make deductions? Go get education.
@@bendover4668 you have yet to say anything of value, which I would expect given your name, and you proceed to tell people to "go get educated." You should just give up my guy.
@@Cienfuegos. I have you’re just too stupid to understand. And my name is a word play. It’s meant to symbolize how the Chinese will “bend over” the world. Because China is the future!
the museum guide was so beautiful!
M.R. Yan Really!?
A lot of people are commenting on how attractive these people are. I think its because women can sleep with whomever they want, have no financial need of men, and no one has to be monogamous. So they are basically just going to have sex with the most attractive guys. Many women will end up having children with the good looking guys, few to none with the unattractive ones. So this culture literally breeds attractiveness.
Donna Thedead wow u actually get it basic science needs to be taught more! i totally want to try it out on some handsome guys
Yes, they'll choose the more attractive guys, or the ones who make them laugh, or are more attentive and thoughtful. All very desirable traits.
So naive. Appearance is way less important for attractiveness than most people think.
@@jessiemayfield6749 haha.. the woman who stayed with 1 guy even though she very popular. they could've asked why? beauty in eye of beholder..
@@alicepopescu8004 So is there a problem in the west where you rarely get to find those qualities? lol
A lot of people being so judge mental how about seeing the positives, yes? Sure the Mosuo women do a lot but it's a fair price over domestic abuse and others problems that a traditional patriarchal society has. It's not a perfect culture but the women are much more happier.
They don’t fight with their partners because they don’t live together now there is a concept worth considering.
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This was so refreshing and interesting to watch
very interesting video. but for me I don't like this social system. I prefer both genders providing the bread for the family and taking care of the children.
But woman do a better job of taking care of kids
+Thomas Rooney Men can do a good job too. they just never took the time to learn.
+lemonan Women have a natural ability to work with kids
+Thomas Rooney Women have a mother instinct but so should father's having father instinct to learn new skills for their child. it is completely ridiculous to say women or men should do only thing because they have a certain knack for it. Humans learn things they don't innately know all the time. example: language, using utensils, internet, driving....etc.
+lemonan Yes but because woman are naturally better at it. The most logical answer of who is the primary caretaker for the child is the female
if women ruled e world, we wouldnt b seeing this much conflicts & violence
No, there would be a new war every month.
Maybe, though there have been alot of violent women so that's speculative.
We wouldnt be living with all the modern conveniences and scientific achievements we have now though. We would probably be physically weaker and dumber aswell.
Thomas Rooney unlike men who cause war every single day!
Thomas, how?..
Dragonze Watermellon woman think on emotion amen use logic
I love how when women are in control everyone just seems so happy and content, men and women are comfortable with no one being opresses. While in patriarchal societies everyone seems miserable and women get opressed 24/7 (ask me about it im a girl living in fucking syria) and it really makes me wonder how the world would be like if women were in charge everywhere, its the fucking dream
Crime would be on a low pitch. Less depression for women. And women have every opportunity (that used to be given to men only ) to live their life to its highest potential, you have the option to chase any dream, you have the opportunity to be the woman you want to be without men to have a say or brainwashed women who prefer sons. They have no authority over your life especially men. But in order to make it happen then start yourself, create a matriarchal household. If all women did that then it will be noticed and a new better world will be created for women like you.
In matriarchy, women can't oppress men because they are physically weak.
@@app8790 oppression isnt always physical, it can be mental as well. Funny seeing how males always think of physical things only.
@@app8790 um no? Anyone is can be an asshole if they want to, it just takes better judgement not to do so.
ap p No it’s because women aren’t as corrupt as you. They are naturally against enslavement unlike you men who put Africans in slavery for years.
You really get an idea about our society from how many women mostly from Western cultures are commenting that they would like to live there. Truly, it looks like an idyllic place. Everyone is happy in their lives and they work together instead of one being above the others. The one to provide great wisdom, grandmother, makes choices.
The mouso girls also would like live in modern society ...,, the elder women are at the head follow by uncles etc there is order there..
+Hello Lexi aaand in the past they also used to show how happy and glamorous the Soviet Union was. When the glamour comes in....its when it becomes bullshit.
+Fabbeyond Jefe to be fair, that could well be only because they are exposed to a glamorized Chinese/western lifestyle through media, and are young teenagers who would naturally be attracted to that by their curiosity. You know the saying, "the grass is always greener.
Did you miss the part where the host called them "Glorified Housewives"? Being a farmer is painstaking work and when she had to dig for a few potatoes, she quickly went from Heralding these women as bastions of feminism to "Glorified housewives".
They have earned their position, unlike the host who believes Feminism=Entitlement
the uncle said " what i say hapens " the men are still on top you didnt pay attention.their only diference is they dont consider sex bad
That's just worse. Men just sit around while the women now have to do *EVERYTHING*. Not only the old ingrained behaviours of cooking, cleaning, and taking care of the kids, they now also have to provide the cash!
Right while the men are saying their life is so easy and they do nothing all day, that's not the way it is in a patriarchal society. Women have it double loaded there and men have to do zero, really not the respect you'd expect with it being a matriarchy.
BillundBerries
Whether it's a patriarchy or a matriarchy depends on if the people get to do what they want or are forced to do it. Even if the responsibilities were equally shared between men and women in the mosou society you can still ask yourself why women takes care of the household work and men takes care of the slaugther and fishing. That seems like a stereotypical remnant of women's chores and men's chores.
well wtf do you want?
budi RJ prostitues arent happy. you realise scientificially men are wired to enjoy sex right. they are more physical than emotional. women are more emotional than physical. so our emotions are first before the physical side. a womans emotional side is so strong their brain can freze and they actually will not feel anything when having sex. litterally. their whole physical side gets shut down. some women do not get jobs as easily as men. so they have to go for prostitution. I also cant believe you are judging all prostitutes that way... a majority of prostitutes are depressed. you need to look at yourself and think, where are these prostiture getting their money from? a person getting a prostitute is not better than the prostitute her self.
in this society the women are more power in bodies than men .because in other societues woman powerful than man
I think running a self sufficient subsistence farm and having sexy dudes come to a secret back door sounds like the best thing ever!
I feel bad for those younger girls who are likely being influenced by Chinese media, falling for the romance crap in the movies. They'll end up wage slaves with a factory job or something and feeling bored with their husbands of the future.
Absolutely.
They seem so bright and happy, despite the hard work they have to do on the daily. The Stanford 100y long study on happiness is right - the key to a happy life is in the quality of our relationships with friends and family, nothing else.
Their living style except for the walking marriage, it is so relatable with the northeast Indian culture...
The house, the food, the looks.
Bruh meghalaya practice matriarch
That’s stretching it a bit. It only looks a bit like the Tibetan part of Arunachal. Most other Northeast Indians are tribals their traditional houses are bamboo huts not such large carved wooden houses. Tribals also much swarthier and shorter than these Qiangic people, .
wow how do the old grannies look so young?? whats their secret
High altitude and low oxygen levels equal low oxidation rates, low aging.
+Zucha L asian don't raisin
healthy food and no make up
+Ricky Chen 😂😂😂😂😭😭😭😭😭
It's also probably less stress
omg i miss this place so much, its Yunnan province and i used to go down there alone every year just to have fun, its like the most chilling province in China , the nature is beautiful there
Everyone is super skinny because everything is home grown, organic.
Because they have no McDonalds
@@hochigaming14yearsago90 true. It's funny how everyone is stating their own reasons for why they are skinny: "organic", "no carbs", "purely exercise", etc.
Farming is a lot of exercise.
i really like this reporter, shes quite excellent. i found it amsuing how the mosuo charm wore off because the women work really hard even though they are in charge. thats the generic template for being a great leader, man or woman. I interpreted that aspect as inspiring
+smokeandmirr0rs i found the host to be a dimwitted twat millennial who said dumb things and asked dumb questions. she didn't even speak Chinese.
craig bieber true is it really that hard to find a non white woman who actually knows something about chinese culture?
They are not the only world Matriarchy. Im also from matriarchy family and we are from Northeast , India but our tradition is a bit different from them.
Actually northeast India isn’t too far from there. Probably not related but interesting to think about
"if anyone's heart breaks we just go have drinks together"......LOL!!.....All over the world!!!
This is really fascinating. There is oddly something quite comforting about their way of life. It is so different to what I am used to and I cannot bring myself to judge based on my own life. They seem so happy but I see the pull of our way of life on the younger generation and sadly I feel the rest of the world encroaching on them. I cannot put my finger on it but I felt really happy for them and didn't want them to lose this way of life. There seems to be a really strong feeling of community and I can imagine loneliness would be rare in this world of theirs.
almost 80% want to leave. if that seem like there are happy, me and you have clearly different defination of happiness
They were forced to marry in the 1960s during the cultural revolution. Then some of them reversed back to night marriage (only meeting at night, and the woman can choose to have a different partner every different night).
Heah they work hard but they are happy and they dont have to support drunk or violent men! Il wouldn't mind at all living here! Yes!!!
ⅰи∂ㄩㄅ360 where did she said that it’s okay?
85% of the dominant earners in marriages are men, who the hell do you think supports who in this culture?
bwyyc You act like she had to. He was just acknowledging the person’s logic that he deems invalid.
true, and they have the support of their large families and communities. The fact that the young man at the end said he would choose to return home even if he lived in mainstream society because "home is better" says it all. You don't see any of these men being arrogant aggressive f*ckboys. They look rather happy.
@@AstroMartine The only reason you see "arrogant aggressive f*ckboys" is due to it apearantly working.
These men would return home, due to easy sex and not needing to do much.
Likely men, who look worse have left the tribe long ago, since there is no possibility to prove themself to get a partner.(In the dancing scenes for excample it looks, at least like there are rather few men, which also was the initial reason why they started that way of life, according to a diffrent documentary on them)
In other documentaries, the young women seem to acctually be less fond of that lifesyle.
Also you arguably see more "arrogant aggressive f*ckboys", since we acctually became more like them.
I liked this documentary up until the point where she talks about how its "lost its charm to her" because it feels like its just a "way of glorifying housewives" -- are you serious? You obviously have no depth of understanding their culture.
"I GUESS they have found some sort of gender balance" -- My god you are so white. Sorry. I'm glad you are learning. Keep reflecting on your experiences and decolonize your mind. Us tribal folks have to work hard at it too so its not just a white thing. But i guess this is a documentary for people who don't come from our background so they find it extremely strange to see other ways of life. This is why Mosou and other tribal/indigenous youth have such a hard time adapting to the "new world" if you must categorize it that way. It is just so unaccepting of our ancient traditions and cultures. There's always room for change, but lacking a sense of understanding just leads to subtle forms of degradation and loss of diversity.
I think she might be trying to convince herself that that life is not for her because she asked about what she would be doing if she joins them, right?
thats her atitude in all her documentaries ,is so damn anoying
There are tiny white men with powdered wigs building log cabins in colored people heads, decolonize your mind LOL.
I've seen an older documentary on the Mosuo matriarchy and very much enjoyed it. I was interested in watching this as this is newer, but immediately disliked it because of they way Milène is documenting this video. I wondered if it was just me. Good to know it isn't.
this is natural and the original way. we may love men but mostly women do everything of import. they really should be on the outskirts
so basically they have the same lives as single mum's
Aamina L but with full extended family support.
They are like single mothers but unlike single mothers they dont take care of anything.
Maryan Cihos The gender roles are reversed the women do most of the work, housekeeping and raising kids.
you ass
Aamina L - Not the same
What a fascinating culture! I'd be interested in seeing some studies on how the young boys in this community who have no relationship with their biological father compare to those that do. I think its a wonderful that this unusual ancient tradition has survived, but I can't see how it could hold up in a modern urban environment.