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Edge Retention Test! AUS8 vs D2 - Ontario Rat 1 Steel Options Compared

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  • Опубліковано 17 сер 2024

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  • @kenrickchow
    @kenrickchow 7 років тому +157

    Thank you. Really appreciate that. You spent a whole lot of efforts to proof and take into some real tests. Rather than tons of other reviews keep talking about hard facts and showing off like 20 of their other knives collections in half of their video. Thanks for making this test.

  • @clownworldresidentii5184
    @clownworldresidentii5184 4 роки тому +36

    From what I've seen (Supersteel Steve) D2 is mostly fine, but it's very difficult to heat treat properly, so there's a huge variation in D2 quality out there

    • @vigeboss1039
      @vigeboss1039 2 роки тому +11

      I can confirm. I have many knives in D2 steel. An example of this was I have a bestech penguin flipper and Civivi Elementum flipper both in D2. Penguin has cut through litteral metal and hard wood and it still has the factory edge and slices tomatoes like butter while I opened a few (maybe 10) boxes with the Elementum and its already dull. IMO the heat treatment on the latter was done badly. Heat treatment can either make an average steel to be excelent or it can make an excelent steel totally crap.

    • @mikafoxx2717
      @mikafoxx2717 5 місяців тому

      I would consider burnt edge from grinding in that bad one. There's so much carbide in D2 if it's legit the only way to do horribly is if it's way too soft or something.@@vigeboss1039

  • @samuelpope7798
    @samuelpope7798 Рік тому +12

    I have both versions. They are both great knife steels. They are very different. I can sharpen the D2 to razor sharp by finishing on a 4000 grit water stone and leather strop with green chromium oxide but it takes about three times as long as AUS 8 and greater care. It takes seconds to sharpen either knife on paper wheels and I have seen the D2 sharpen just about as fast as AUS 8 using good diamond plates and diamond paste strop. I can sharpen AUS 8 with the fine side of an axe puck and my belt as a strop. I can put a serviceable edge on D2 that way but it won't be a great shaver. It will get coarse leg hairs but not fine arm hairs. If I had to use one of these knives for processing big game animals in the field I would prefer the AUS 8. (My actual hunting knife is a Buck 110 I inherited from my uncle Randy. ) What counts there is the ability to quickly maintain the sharpest edge while processing 4 or more animals (at least 2 tags for me and 2 for my son). With a little strop in between each and probably one full resharpening out in the middle of nowhere. In town and at work I like the D2 because it will cut abrasive materials longer and I can take advantage of more sophisticated sharpening techniques at home. They are both great but they have very different personalities.

  • @the.reel.mccoy.
    @the.reel.mccoy. 5 років тому +38

    AUS 8 is similiar to a 440 stainless steel. D2 is a high carbon steel and will rust quicker. In certain environments, the Aus8 is a far better choice. In the simple basis of edge retention, the D2 is a "better" steel. But, the AUS8 sharpens so incredibly quickly and easily, it makes it's worth up in leaps. Plus, the AUS 8 saves quite a bit of money, if you look hard enough. Got both an AUS 8 and a D2 OKC Rat 1. I prefer to daily carry the AUS 8 for I abuse it and almost never rub it down with oil. It simply takes it and doesn't rust. The D2 will rust pretty quick, but admittedly, does hold an edge longer.

    • @Thomass-yc7wm
      @Thomass-yc7wm 2 роки тому

      I just got a d2 knife for $100 fixed blade w sheath and belt attachment, any problems and u can send it back for a brand new one cause u get lifetime warranty so rust isn't really an issue for me

    • @ChateauBeaufort
      @ChateauBeaufort Рік тому +2

      But not really… AUS is built for Toughness, rather than Hardness & hardness matters… a lot!… We are here comparing not steels, but knives. AUS 8 is all too often hardened about 57HRC… D2 tends to be hardened @ 60HRC… & that makes a world of difference in abrasion resistance…

    • @italosebastian123
      @italosebastian123 11 місяців тому +3

      Que clase de D2 tendrás, yo tengo como dos cuchillas de esas como 6 meses y aún ni se oxidan.
      Fácil te han estafado amigo, cuidado.

  • @ChinqMiau1
    @ChinqMiau1 4 роки тому +27

    Thank you for doing this and uploading it for everyone else to enjoy and learn from.

  • @dannyhanny1191
    @dannyhanny1191 5 років тому +9

    Good video, and it sold me on AUS8 (budget knife - needs to be sharp when I need it, doesn't need to stay sharp for long) considering how fast I rust into everything - including nitride-treated stainless steel. Seems good enough for what I'd use it for.

  • @Sumatra123
    @Sumatra123 2 роки тому +17

    D2 doesn’t hold an edge that much more than Aus8, but it’s a lot harder to bring the edge back. I’d rather have a edc blade that I can resharpen with the bottom of a coffee cup if I have too.

    • @johnjames5842
      @johnjames5842 Рік тому +3

      Exactly, I've seen d2 basically shatter

    • @johnjames5842
      @johnjames5842 Рік тому +1

      @Ace King spring steel is way better than tool steel, flexibility equals durability, working blades , not this fragile , surgical shit.

    • @jgunther3398
      @jgunther3398 Рік тому +1

      that ability will be useful in the coming office apocalypse 📻☢🔘

    • @johnjames5842
      @johnjames5842 Рік тому

      @@jgunther3398 bottom of a toilet tank lid works great too

    • @eliteknowledge7298
      @eliteknowledge7298 Рік тому +6

      Doesn't hold an edge that much longer?
      It was just demonstrated it held an edge TWICE as long!
      What do you mean with: "not that much longer"?
      It did twice as well, which is a lot better!

  • @floraly88
    @floraly88 Рік тому +3

    Was just searching for a D2 cut test and happened to notice how much weight you lost since back then. Great job.

    • @CedricAda
      @CedricAda  Рік тому +1

      yeah i used to have a big ol’ round head hahah. it was that time where we had tiny kids and no time to look after ourselves haha

    • @floraly88
      @floraly88 Рік тому +1

      @@CedricAda Good for you, lookin' much more trim now. I'm working on it myself. Keep the great content going.

  • @NicolasShaffer
    @NicolasShaffer 7 років тому +48

    D2 has around 3% vanadium(different sources may have more or less)The gets toothy instead of just dulling.This is one of the reasons D2 is one of my favorite steels.

    • @MountainFisher
      @MountainFisher 4 роки тому +13

      @daAnder71 D2, depending on manufacturer runs about 0.85% to 0.95%. If it had 3% vanadium with its 12% chromium and 1.5% carbon it would go about 400 cuts. I've been making D2 knives since 1992. Go to the link's bottom of the page for detailed analysis of 3 D2 steel makers.
      www.alphaknifesupply.com/shop/d2-carbon-steel

    • @ryancutrona673
      @ryancutrona673 3 роки тому +5

      I am not a fan of steels that get toothy quickly *cough* s30v *cough* but I would take that over a knife that just folds the edge in half the time :) I just got my hands on CPM 20cv and I am in love! What I will say about D2 (not owning it though) is that its just so damn good for the price!

  • @csarebel8657
    @csarebel8657 3 роки тому +3

    This channel is my go to for all my knife related inquiries. He’s done all of the leg work already.... anytime I have a question regarding performance, this bloke has already answered it for me.

  • @reeruns9972
    @reeruns9972 4 роки тому +34

    My god would you look at that scratch free cutting board. Hang in there little buddy, the next few years are gonna be wild!

    • @bryanb4308
      @bryanb4308 3 роки тому +1

      It was so pristine I thought he was doing it on his kitchen table at first haha

  • @bobsmoot2392
    @bobsmoot2392 2 роки тому +6

    It would be very interesting, to see the same blade materials compared, including resharpening times. Actual overall times, of cutting/resharpening needed for 500 cuts.

  • @lettingthebearout7528
    @lettingthebearout7528 Рік тому +14

    Aus 8 is less expensive, easier to sharpen and is stainless. Most people would would never notice the difference honestly. Rat 1 is a great knife overall though. I own both and love them.

  • @M240Bravo
    @M240Bravo 6 років тому +5

    I wish there could be more steel test videos like this. Great video and concept. Subscribed.

    • @CedricAda
      @CedricAda  6 років тому +2

      Check out my steel testing playlist, you may be pleasantly surprised

  • @bushcraftingmuslim
    @bushcraftingmuslim 3 роки тому +4

    Rewatching this in March 2021 and the comment about D2 at the end "getting toothy" instead of dull has me thinking this is a good candidate for #dualgrit #thegabemethod sharpening. Can't wait to try it out.

  • @Liberty4Ever
    @Liberty4Ever 7 років тому +3

    Thank you for taking the time to do this test and upload the video. I like practical science like this.

  • @Mrplacedcookie
    @Mrplacedcookie 6 років тому +13

    D2 done right is a good working steel.

  • @GetMeThere1
    @GetMeThere1 5 років тому +7

    I know this is an old one -- maybe you have a different procedure now (and I have seen your 1 hour long compendium video on edge retention). But....I think it would have been a good data point to note how well each of the knives in these experiments were able to recover sharpness by a it of stropping. First, of course, how easily a knife can recover from getting dull is nearly as important as how quickly it dulls. But secondly, I'd still love to learn more about what really HAPPENS when a knife dulls; perhaps some of these knives would recover by stropping, and some others WOULDN'T.

    • @desertrainfrog1691
      @desertrainfrog1691 5 років тому

      Stropping strokes on a high grit whetstone would bring back the tougher ones that don't respond well to compounded strops.

  • @user-ob1hj1vz1d
    @user-ob1hj1vz1d 11 місяців тому

    Awesome, FANTASTIC reviews.
    YOUR TEST METHOD is an Extremely high-value reference point, and YOUR TESTS are my first stop when I'm curious about a particular steel.
    MANY THANKS for your tenacity. You deserve success and respect for your content.

  • @aaronbenns9051
    @aaronbenns9051 4 роки тому +4

    i like high end steels but i still take a knife to the ceramic stone well before 56 cuts

  • @Datsyzerberg
    @Datsyzerberg 6 років тому +6

    Brainstorming here, maybe if you staple some small section of tube or pipe to pass the rope through that's a slightly larger diameter than the rope you can save your hand on those m390 tests. FFT.
    Needed this exact review. Size of the rat2 is perfect but D2 has so much more edge retention.
    That carbon fiber is sweet too.

  • @JMEPatterson
    @JMEPatterson 9 місяців тому +1

    I came for the review...and stayed for the music

  • @derekcroft2055
    @derekcroft2055 3 місяці тому

    I Love These Knife Blade Tests People Do,,,,,,,I Got The SRK In 3V Steel & It's The Best I Ever Had !!!!
    I Wish You Tubers Would Do MORE Tests On 3V Steel Blades !!

  • @rsull1995
    @rsull1995 5 років тому +4

    What a great video! A worthwhile test with the head-to-head comparison of Aus-8 vs. D-2. Nice vid, man!

  • @PaulK390S90V
    @PaulK390S90V 7 років тому +2

    Glad i watched this video. i had just ordered the aus8 rat 1 for $30 with free prime shipping on amazon. Then i checked out the d2 ones and saw they were $41 plus free shipping but not through prime. i was wondering if i made the right choice but now im glad i did! U got a sub from me

    • @PaulK390S90V
      @PaulK390S90V 7 років тому +4

      Won Honglo I definitely think its worth 11$ more. i think its worth 20$ more. i got the d2 in and i love it. I just didnt realize how much better d2 was than aus8.

  • @davidtate166
    @davidtate166 6 років тому +1

    Yes enjoy these blade test results. Aus8 is in the 440b class of steel .its a good fair cutting steel .i like it. Old steel to .thanks good work.

  • @ricktemmen6272
    @ricktemmen6272 6 років тому +1

    I live on the west coast of Florida and no one has mentioned the ability of D2 to rust ... I guess it was a convenient omission ... Great effort with the video ...

    • @dannyhanny1191
      @dannyhanny1191 5 років тому

      This was my thinking as well - super humid state, body sweat - I rusted deeply into to modern-treated gun slides from an OWB holster, so knife rust will be a Florida issue I'm sure - especially if stored in the vehicles when not on my person.

    • @mountaindont34ify
      @mountaindont34ify 4 роки тому

      No doubt.. I wouldnt want d2 in Florida. But its not like its totally prone to rust. It is semi stainless. It's alot more so than a2 steel lol

  • @phillipnunya6793
    @phillipnunya6793 4 роки тому +3

    To everyone saying D2 is better, D2 seems a lot better at staying sharp. Keep in mind that it isn't better for every knife and every person. I would bet that it rusts easier, is more brittle, and is harder to sharpen.

  • @TheGamerGuy1981
    @TheGamerGuy1981 4 роки тому +10

    And this is why D2 should be the budget steel of choice. (less you live in humid environments). That said.. Budget steel. These knives I see in D2 for $100+ are insane IMO.

  • @jonnybravo4389
    @jonnybravo4389 4 роки тому +1

    Looks like I'll be ordering a new rat, never knew i could get it in different blade steels

  • @mistersmith3986
    @mistersmith3986 7 місяців тому

    I've had AUS 8 before. I'll NEVER pay for that garbage again. I've had D2 on many knives and NEVER a problem.
    Thanx for the video my Bladed Brother 👍 ⚔️ ✝️ 🇺🇲

  • @fourtrax10
    @fourtrax10 5 років тому +3

    Just bought two AUS 8 rat 1’s at Walmart for $13.99 each. Oregon

  • @MountainFisher
    @MountainFisher 7 років тому +6

    I might add I am a very experienced HT, maker of D2 knives

    • @CLLeigh
      @CLLeigh 7 років тому +1

      Agree, S30V and S35SVN are much better steels.
      What is also true is that you will pay a premium for the upgrade. Matter of cost vs. return which is different for different uses and personal wants.

  • @FactFinderGeneral
    @FactFinderGeneral 7 років тому +1

    Here right now in the US the aus 8 is 1/2 to 1/3rd the D2s if you go with carbon fiber on the black D2. The normal D2 is about a $10 difference though.

  • @mjs924
    @mjs924 2 роки тому

    I was just watching hing to see you cut your fingers off, good skill mate

  • @VinEllis
    @VinEllis 6 років тому +5

    Benchmade's CPM D2 is insane. My Benchmade 51 is still sharp after 7 months EDC.

    • @VinEllis
      @VinEllis 6 років тому

      Every day carry. I don't abuse it, mostly cardboard and tape.

    • @openplz3000
      @openplz3000 6 років тому +1

      Yes it is. I have D2 on a HK otf that is fantastic, while Benchmade owned them

    • @mountaindont34ify
      @mountaindont34ify 4 роки тому

      From what I've read, really good properly pre heated treated and post quenched d2 is better than cpm d2

  • @renna8793
    @renna8793 5 років тому +14

    Can we get a VG10 vs D2? Just got myself an Esee Avispa D2 and a Bestech Pebble. Esee Avispa might see some heavier use, but both are kind of just EDC for me.

    • @whatfreedom7
      @whatfreedom7 4 роки тому

      I’m curious about that too. My spyderco has a vg-10 blade and holds its shape was for a while but it’s a bitch for me to sharpen. My CRKT has to sharpened about every couple weeks to be reliable and is easy but I’m not sure what metal it is. I’m curious where the D2 stands in comparison.

  • @BradGryphonn
    @BradGryphonn 5 років тому +2

    Bwahaha! Just having a look at this because I have the AUS8 version....but man, you've come a looong way mate! This is actually pretty funny Pete :o).

  • @zhukie
    @zhukie 7 років тому

    Nice video, mate! Great to see a local enthusiast, for a change.

  • @apiyutsiyapan9582
    @apiyutsiyapan9582 Рік тому

    Very good comparison. Thank you for your time and effort. Cool music too.

  • @vieuxacadian9455
    @vieuxacadian9455 3 роки тому

    Realistic and straight forward . Well done

  • @perspicacity89
    @perspicacity89 4 роки тому

    Just found your channel the other week.
    God I fucking love you and your channel.
    Amazing quality and content.
    You are a godsend.

    • @CedricAda
      @CedricAda  4 роки тому +1

      thanks man! I try! my tests have got a lot better since these early ones, IMO

    • @perspicacity89
      @perspicacity89 4 роки тому

      @@CedricAda Your 2 hour video about edge retention of all the steels was the best knife video I've ever seen.
      Your knife sharpener reviews are god-tier.
      Also you have amazing editing and music.
      And I love your dogs. Absolutely precious.

  • @nellAyaR2034
    @nellAyaR2034 6 років тому +4

    I think the table is more what's dulling the knife rather than the rope

    • @CedricAda
      @CedricAda  6 років тому

      check out my faq video for many questions addressed

  • @donnadonlea5182
    @donnadonlea5182 5 років тому +2

    Nice test.Made my hands hurt to watch.
    Thanks for sharing

  • @lonetrader1
    @lonetrader1 5 років тому +4

    I like my aus8 aus10 a bit more but I hate sharpening d2. Takes to long.....

  • @adammcguinness9950
    @adammcguinness9950 5 місяців тому +1

    I want another Rat, I don’t really want an Aus 8 version. The D2 seems to be the go.

  • @voxfan7403
    @voxfan7403 2 роки тому +1

    Now, how much effort to bring each blade edge back?

  • @GaeasBlessing
    @GaeasBlessing 5 років тому

    I watched all of the slicing. I couldn't look away, in fact.
    It was...mesmerizing.

    • @esoteric5277
      @esoteric5277 4 роки тому

      Must be the music ... cobras seem to have the same kind of reaction to it😜

  • @28tpi
    @28tpi 7 місяців тому

    Their both good steels but very different. D2 is a tool steel and is hard as hell when heat treated. Its very sensitive to heat, like trying to drill a hole through it. If you let it get too hot ie. without coolant, it will "work harden on you and will be harder than the drill bit. Aus 8 has more chromium and less carbon. Both good but each has its strengths and weaknesses. A carbon steel will be more flexable but rust easier. All are good for their intended use is the best way to put it. Ask yourself, "what am i going to be using this knife for", then pick you're steel. Good video.

  • @mofomartianp
    @mofomartianp 7 років тому +44

    Nice practical review... D2 is definitely a step up from AUS8.
    Any chance you could name or link the music you used?

    • @MadM0nkey
      @MadM0nkey 7 років тому +8

      mofomartian sounds like indian music...there's definitely Tabla, Sitar and Santoor instruments...as well as the Flute

    • @Tenskwatawa4U
      @Tenskwatawa4U 7 років тому +4

      Japanese.

    • @johnroberts6695
      @johnroberts6695 6 років тому +6

      What I like about AUS8 is that it takes a wicked edge and it only takes a few swipes to get it back. Trying to sharpen S30V is enough of a chore that I dread having to do it. Also, I can't tell by just fingering the blade whether it's sharp. I can always tell when my AUS8 is sharp because it's wickedly sharp. My favorite is 154CM. Expensive though.

    • @BonzerWolf
      @BonzerWolf 6 років тому

      mofomartian didgeridoo hit parade 😁

    • @garethbaus5471
      @garethbaus5471 6 років тому +1

      at 1.25 times speed it sounds slightly better

  • @errlb.dunkin2450
    @errlb.dunkin2450 6 років тому +15

    There is a reason that there are so many different types of steel used to make blades. It isn't just because of the cost of the steel. D2 is my overall favorite steel depending on the maker. Not all knife makers that use D2 actually heat treat it properly. Also D2 may retain its edge longer, but in turn is harder to properly sharpen. Most people that carry a pocket knife have no clue about how to properly sharpen any blade steel, let alone D2. Although aus8 doesn't s stay sharp as long, it literally takes 30 seconds to quickly put a shaving sharp edge back on

    • @TheAAOinfin
      @TheAAOinfin 6 років тому +1

      Which cheap but effective sharpeners do you recommend? Looking on Amazon. I just bought a CRKT Squid (8Cr13MoV) and a Masalong karambit (AUS-8). Thanks.

    • @errlb.dunkin2450
      @errlb.dunkin2450 6 років тому +3

      TheAAOinfin I use whetstones to sharpen. There are many different types of sharpening systems out there and I tried most of them. I found that with a little bit of practice the best overall sharpening method, for me, is the whetstone method. EdgePro stones are great and not expensive. You should check out this guy's page. He has numerous videos on knife sharpening and he isnt trying to sell you anything. ua-cam.com/video/jKMFPpNxIbM/v-deo.html I hope this helps.

    • @TheAAOinfin
      @TheAAOinfin 6 років тому

      Errl, that is just the advice I was looking for. Thanks a lot!

    • @poopshootpoop7531
      @poopshootpoop7531 5 років тому

      @@TheAAOinfin also dmt diafold sharpeners are nice for travel. I Keep the coarse/fine and extra fine/extra extra fine diafolds in my backpack for when people ask me to sharpen things on the go. They see about $30 each and come with two grits. My spyderco sharpmaker is also ever useful for touching up pocket knives and serrated knives, i use it in my sharpening business for bread knives all the time.

    • @TheAAOinfin
      @TheAAOinfin 5 років тому

      @@poopshootpoop7531 Thanks for the suggestion Poops!

  • @dalfredburns9109
    @dalfredburns9109 7 років тому +8

    i noticed that you varied your cutting technique. with the aus8 version, you used a conventional cutting motion. yet later, with the d2 version, you began to push cut with your finger on top of the spine. obviously, this adds greater leverage. hence, a greater mechanical advantage. .. just something that i noticed...

    • @CedricAda
      @CedricAda  7 років тому +14

      dalfred burns shouldnt effect how long the edge lasts (testing vs paper, not vs rope - the rope is just a means of wearing the edge off). As my hand fatigues I need to readjust from time to time.

  • @timmylitt45
    @timmylitt45 4 роки тому +3

    I'll go with the AUS 8 because honestly how often are you going to use it everyday. It's cheaper and won't rust as easy as D2. The only thing is you'd need to sharpen your knife more on Aus8 then you would have to on D2.

    • @YerZippersDown
      @YerZippersDown 3 роки тому

      Wow very observant.

    • @charlieward7606
      @charlieward7606 2 роки тому

      depends on the person, i used mine at least 3 times today probably more but im a mechanic so its more than office worker probably and it will usually be getting oil and such on it that will help with the rust, for me d2 is a no brainer although im getting a 154cm leatherman expanse next as i think it will be usefull

  • @Tokyo-go2du
    @Tokyo-go2du 3 роки тому +1

    My first knife purchase as a collector/nerd happened to be D2 so I'm pleased af

  • @user-dm1gw2hd1q
    @user-dm1gw2hd1q 4 роки тому +3

    AUS-8も結構優秀な鋼材と思っていたけれども、D2はそれの倍の刃持ちとは恐れ入る!錆びやすく無ければ今でも現役で通用する優秀な素材だね。ELMAXとも比較してみてほしい。あれはきっと手ごわいぞ!

  • @LaLaObeRoT
    @LaLaObeRoT Місяць тому +1

    Very unscientific personal opinion: AUS8 is much easier to sharpen into razor sharp with only simple sharpening tool. My EDC is a AUS8 Cold Steel Finnwolf. Sharpens like a dream.

  • @josephkool8411
    @josephkool8411 5 років тому +4

    There's a reason D2 steel is still used in quality knives. These new steels might be slightly better, but not by as much most think

    • @nitrorc4life1
      @nitrorc4life1 5 років тому +3

      I unlike alot of steel snobs, love D2 and is my go to general EDC steel. I do not mean in any way to offend you but your comment is not accurate. I have knives with steel that surpass D2 in every way by a far margine (edge holding, toughness, rust resistance). Only downside is price and to a lesser degree ease of sharpening. Though once you are use to sharpening a good D2 the high end stuff with a few exceptions is not much more difficult to sharpen. Butvthis is just my opinion and experience.

    •  4 роки тому

      No theres a reason why cts xhp and s35vn are used in quality knives.

    • @josephkool8411
      @josephkool8411 4 роки тому

      @ Because people are willing to pay a premium for the latest super steel?

  • @mdubb4855
    @mdubb4855 3 роки тому +3

    I'd take the AUS8 for daily carry and the D2 (with rust resistant treatment at least on the actual edge) for a go bag.

    • @JordanMac79
      @JordanMac79 Рік тому +3

      I’d do the opposite. D2 sucks to sharpen. Not tryin to do that in the field if I don’t have to. IMO

  • @clems6989
    @clems6989 Рік тому

    The trick is not letting it get dull to start with. Keeping the edge sharp is a lot easier than reproducing the sharp edge after its gone...

    • @daveyboy6985
      @daveyboy6985 Рік тому

      So true. After using my knife with 14c28n on something I'll give it a strop on the palm of my hand if it's still reasonably sharp.
      If it dulls slightly I give them a couple of strokes on my small lansky ceramic stone, Presto back to sharp again..
      Don't need any high end steel.

  • @grumpyoldwizard
    @grumpyoldwizard 6 років тому +1

    What is the resharpening like for a average/poor sharpener? I wondered if the AUS8 would get its edge back easier where the D2 would make those extra cuts and then be very difficult to resharpen for the average guy (me).

  • @dude28405
    @dude28405 5 років тому +2

    You can buy an AUS 8 for about $30 and the D2 for $40 here where I live

    • @the.reel.mccoy.
      @the.reel.mccoy. 5 років тому +1

      I got both an AUS 8 and a D2 OKC for 7$ each xD got lucky. They were listed at $11 but rang up as 7$

    • @animalatom
      @animalatom 4 роки тому

      @@the.reel.mccoy. where did you find them that cheap?

    • @the.reel.mccoy.
      @the.reel.mccoy. 4 роки тому

      @@animalatom Walmart by me had them on sale for 13 bucks and they rang up at 7 lol

    • @darrellfinley2825
      @darrellfinley2825 4 роки тому

      It's a no brainer for 10.00 more

  • @jordanlapointe4690
    @jordanlapointe4690 2 роки тому

    Great vid, thanks!
    What was the background music? Loved the vibe. EDIT: hah, just realized I'm like the 5th person to ask that and the answer is "imovie stock music", lol.

  • @steveblankenship7643
    @steveblankenship7643 3 роки тому +2

    Whenever he said he was going to tape off the tip end and cut with the other end I was just thinking, that’s a bold move.

  • @dylanwang8613
    @dylanwang8613 5 років тому +1

    I like the Chinese style music. But it sounds a little sad. Thanks for the hard work.

  • @49giants3
    @49giants3 7 років тому +1

    Thanks for the video. The rat ones are nice knives. Keep up the good work sir

  • @c62west
    @c62west 3 роки тому

    THANKS!!! I have a RAT 1 IN AUS 8. I've been thinking about getting the D2 version. I just assumed it was better. Now I know for sure.

  • @TheKimjoh560
    @TheKimjoh560 7 років тому

    On that note I have to make a recommendation here based on a recent purchase: Y-start Jin02. Its a similiar knife, its made from D2, has ball bearings and g10 scales and a axis-style lock. Fit and finnish is perfect. And its like $15. Its quite possibly the best value folder on the market right now beyond any Ganzo, Sanrenmu or similiar chinese brand. Dont think about it, buy it and thank me later. (On a side note, it actually fits in the elastic loop on the side of a letherman sheath thanks to being more rounded than the RAT). I never heard of the company before but I expect to see alot from them in the future.

  • @joeyoung3319
    @joeyoung3319 2 роки тому

    I have both and appreciate both, but appreciate the D2 more! LOL
    BY THE WAY, DO AVOID ANY FORM OF LIGHT SOURCES BEHIND YOU IN A CAMERA SHOT...?
    It totally messes with your cameras exposure and as you can see, makes you appear as a dark figure rather than any kind of lighting on your face at all. This is why studio lights point toward the subject of the camera, and not pointed at the camera.

  • @ViperSharp
    @ViperSharp 7 років тому +2

    Very nice to see. Great video. Going to look at that D2 option right now.

  • @Oozy9Millimeetah
    @Oozy9Millimeetah 6 років тому +1

    I've been lately on memory lane and using and testing my old recon1 in Aus8a and im surprised how well it holds it's edge, i had waaay back an KA-BAR dosier in aus8 it didn't nearly hold it's edge as well as cold steel.

  • @johnroberts6695
    @johnroberts6695 6 місяців тому

    I think there's too much emphasis on edge retention. When I get a knife, I take care of my blades and when I take out my D2 blade only to see rust has formed along the edge or on one side, to hell with it. I've never had rust form on any of my AUS8A blades. The one thing one should _never_ do is store a D2 blade in a leather holster-like sheath. I use BreakFree® on all my steel knives and it usually works great. But D2 managed to defeat it.

  • @francischristian9105
    @francischristian9105 2 роки тому

    Retention of edge of the knife depending on material hardness.
    That's it mates.

  • @wis1024
    @wis1024 3 роки тому +3

    Hit the aus 8 with honing steel and keep going, repeat until its actually dull lol

    • @EDCandLace
      @EDCandLace 3 роки тому

      Hit the D2 with a strop and keep cutting until it's truly dull... That's silly method. Both will come right back to life with a quick strop everyone knows that.

    • @wis1024
      @wis1024 3 роки тому +1

      No if the edge is misaligned/deformed on the d2 a strop will do zip and d2 tends to chip rather than bend back to straight so a honing steel will also do nothing. Your going to need to establish a new edge by removing a good amount of steel with a stone/plate. The edge on most aus 8 depending on the heat treat will literally bend and come right back many times being a softer steel lol you cant just strop a misaligned edge, and yes even the edge on hard steels can and will deform so.......

    • @daveyboy6985
      @daveyboy6985 3 роки тому

      @@wis1024 I agree

  • @chopsddy3
    @chopsddy3 3 роки тому +5

    D2 definitely cuts longer than aus 8. It’s a lot more difficult to grind too. D2 takes about four times the effort when forging and grinding is tougher, but the effort and expense is worth it.

    • @fattyhoon
      @fattyhoon Рік тому +1

      Honestly, with no disrespect, I find the opposite to be true. I agree that D2 is a tougher steel, but the ease of sharpening with the Aus-8 is worth it to me. I think Aus-8 is awesome. I have knives with s20-v, D2, cpm-154, s35-v, Aus-8, Aus-10v, Bd1n, s90v. I find sharpening the Aus8 an easy and quick experience. For me, the usable edge on Aus8 is workable for just as long, and much faster to sharpen. To each there own. Much love.

  • @DavidV4444
    @DavidV4444 7 років тому

    Excellent review, very helpful and informative! Thank you!

  • @Mrplacedcookie
    @Mrplacedcookie 6 років тому +1

    Thank's for doing this! much appreciated.

  • @D45VR
    @D45VR 6 років тому +4

    darn nice music too!

  • @nemem02
    @nemem02 6 років тому +1

    How a serrated knife with less quality steel compare in cutting rope vs a plain edge premium steel? you don’t have such a test, would be interesting. If cutting rope is your primary comparison test.

  • @Ammosexual69
    @Ammosexual69 5 років тому +7

    D2 is my favorite steel for a hard use knife. It is a seriously tough and rugged steel that can hold its own against even more exotic steels. American steel really is top notch as far as affordability goes.

    • @krazykat64
      @krazykat64 5 років тому +5

      Spencer Kohl The D2 Ontario uses in these knives is not from the U.S. It’s sourced from the same place the knife is made - Taiwan.

  • @bowdengrace930
    @bowdengrace930 Рік тому

    G'day, great vid. Just wondering if you could suggest some places to buy folding knives in Australia. Im not keen to pat 3 times the price that the US pays. Thanks

  • @simonchiu5587
    @simonchiu5587 6 років тому

    You're from SA?! That's so cool. Me too! Fairly new follower to your channel but really enjoy all your videos. Got my first folder I carry daily last year. Can I send it to you for a review? Byrd Raven 2 (CTS BD1) am curious how this steel stands up to your testing!

  • @danielohara3454
    @danielohara3454 6 років тому +1

    Does D2 perform better with a toothy or fine edge? What grit do you prefer stopping at?

  • @johndoee4511
    @johndoee4511 7 років тому +18

    D2 is tool steel. It's durable. AUS8 is soft af.

  • @Airik1111bibles
    @Airik1111bibles 3 роки тому +2

    4 years later $19.00 at Walmart for Aus8 version. That's about perfect for what ya get. D2 is excellent for regular grinds but not good for scandis from my experience. It's so dang chippy ...
    I'm guessing with a micro vex scandi it would do better but crazy zero grind purest ...not so much.
    I can't stand zero grind Scandi blades so it's a non issue for me.
    That's an insanely huge step up for a small price difference.

  • @telegoose9905
    @telegoose9905 5 років тому +2

    Thank you. Helped me decide between the two! 🔪🗡️

  • @BROfessordennis
    @BROfessordennis 2 роки тому +1

    Aus 8 is not bad... 🤷🏼‍♂️ It's a good blade 🔪.. Surely there are better ones.. But it's survival and defend usable.. 😉 🙂

  • @jelaienfinue
    @jelaienfinue 6 років тому +1

    The D2 model seems to be discontinued am I right? It's very unfortunate because as much as I like that model I think I'd rather get a better steel than AUS 8, but that's the only version of that knife available right now...

  • @crf450rbulletdavid9
    @crf450rbulletdavid9 6 років тому

    Awesome test video Pete!

  • @robertbrunston5406
    @robertbrunston5406 7 років тому

    Thank you for making this video! Right now on the enter net you can find the rat 1 in Aus 6 for $19.00 and the rat 1 in D2 for $40.00! Thanks again.

    • @chrissexton6634
      @chrissexton6634 4 роки тому

      Dang where did you find it for 16$ I just bought for 28$ (black coated) or 25$ for satan.

  • @MrSemanticprison
    @MrSemanticprison 6 років тому

    these videos are so relaxing

  • @johnruiz6743
    @johnruiz6743 3 роки тому

    I wonder how much of the dulling is due to the sisal vs the cutting surface (wood board)? 🤔

  • @ccooper8040
    @ccooper8040 6 років тому

    Good test. Seemed very fair.

  • @usernameCJ224
    @usernameCJ224 2 роки тому

    What model is that Victorinox watch?

  • @Gottlos234
    @Gottlos234 2 роки тому

    so d2 can hold an edge longer maybe harder steel does that mean it cant flex as well? wonder which would flex better

  • @missionhillssurvival
    @missionhillssurvival 5 років тому

    Hello have you did any test on the HCR 13 mov if so can you tell me the test results or the name of the video thanks and I love your videos lots of great information

  • @haydensmith8576
    @haydensmith8576 3 роки тому

    Thank you for the test!

  • @dwainsw4076
    @dwainsw4076 3 роки тому

    Was the d2 sharper to begin with? It appeared to be in the video.

  • @FranklinHicks-qs4gs
    @FranklinHicks-qs4gs 4 роки тому

    Do you have a spreadsheet available with all your data for the different steels

  • @ipressedabutton
    @ipressedabutton Рік тому

    Quality review with Great Music too

  • @pinkbrisingr78
    @pinkbrisingr78 7 років тому +1

    Nice video man. I have 4 AUS8 & 2 D2 bladed versions. I prefer the D2. Take care.

    • @49giants3
      @49giants3 7 років тому

      AlphaBladeReviews hey nice to see you here. I lost my aus-8 rat one at work, now I gotta get a d2 one lol

    • @pinkbrisingr78
      @pinkbrisingr78 7 років тому

      Thats right on brother!