I have very similar WHITIN Men's Cross-Trainer | Barefoot & Minimalist Shoe but mine have the knit style polyester upper, not the smooth, sort of rip-stop upper of yours. The reason I ordered that style was because of reviews that indicated the knit type upper is more durable. 1 reviewer has used them for hiking / backpacking running and trail running and at the 18-month mark, the insert failed but otherwise good. My primary reason for buying them is that I have a full-size functional trainer and wanted the gum sole and minimalist shoe to get better grip and better connection to the floor while lifting weights with the functional trainer. My experience is that while leaning forward to perform presses and flys, I'm instinctively flexing my feet as if trying to grip the floor like a monkey might grip a branch with their feet. The floor gripping thing happens almost instinctively I don't even think about it, it just happens every time. Initially the bottoms of my feet had the same delayed onset muscle soreness (DOMS) that you feel the day after lifting weights, but my feet have adapted and that no longer happens. I assume the DOMS meant my feet were growing stronger and there really can't be anything bad about that.
You're welcome! Glad my review was of some help to you! I'm still wearing these shoes and loving how they feel. I have yet to try any of the name brands though.
The pair on the far left are great if you buy the extra wide version, no need to undo the factory lacing! But not good for basket ball because they will fly off your feet. I use them as daily’s
Appreciate your review. 6 months sound pretty good for a minimal shoe your playing basketball in. I'm sure most aren't using there's that hard outside of normal running
I just received the trail runners today. I normally wear 7.5 or 8 on mens shoes. I ordered a size 7 based on the size chart provided. That was also the smallest size offered. Definitely go by the measurment of your foot, not the shoe. They are just a little long but otherwise, a great fit. My bunions fit in the sole. I don't ride on the edge of the sole like in my Xero shoes ( they used to make them wider). The insole appears to have arch support but will just flatten when you stand on it. To my utter suprise (because no reviewer has mentioned this) there is a thin layer of cushioning foam lining sewn into the bed of the shoe. So you still get some cushion without the insoles. I took about 3 years to transition to barefoot shoes. These are a great transition shoe. They are soft and roomy inside. I'm wearing them out of the box without socks and nothing is rubbing my foot. My Xero shoes have a lot of stitching that rubs my bare foot. I'm very excited to wear these shoes this summer.
Awesome! Great comment - you added a lot of helpful review information that I didn't cover in the video. You are right that the trail runners include a thin layer of cushioning and an arch support insert. I just remove the arch support insert and don't use them in mine. Thanks for the feedback and the added details to help other viewers decide if these shoes might be a fit for them. I still haven't tried the Xero shoes and would like to someday, but these are such a good price and work well for me.
@@brushstroke3733 There is no arch support in the insole. Everyone keeps saying this but the insole is only contoured at the arch to fit in the shoe. It appears to be risen but it is as thin as the rest of the insole.
Great information, I've been considering whitin. I hope you do another video soon and discuss all your changes since then. I've been trying to read all the comments below to get more info, but a comprehensive video would absolutely be appreciated, especially since people are trying to pinch pennies these days. Thank you so much for your time. I'm a toy lover too, so I came for the whitin, and am going to stay for the toys, haha.
Thanks, I appreciate the feedback and encouragement to make another update video. I've been wearing WHITIN shoes for almost three whole years now and very much enjoying their function and fit. My feet may have grown in width slighly from no longer being closed in by cast-like normal shoes, but I don't know for sure because I didn't take images or measurements before switching to open toe box, zero drop shoes. At least I don't have platar fascitis anymore! Thanks for looking around and finding some of the toy videos. I need to make a few more soon. Have an excellent day!
Maybe, but you might be the only person who watches it! I still have and wear the two pairs that lasted through six months (they're now about 18 months old), and bought a different pair of WHITIN shoes with the toe outlines that is lace only (no velcro or string pulling mechanism) when I made this video that are now over a year old. I recently bought a second pair of those shoes to wear exclusively for trail running and retired the first pair from running to now walking. I still really like all of them and think they're a great deal for about $40/pair.
@@brushstroke3733 i actual just bought all those 3 shoes lol. The one that snapped the buckle on you i just ordered earlier today and the casual ones i got away with using 3 times for work for the last hour or 2 even though were supposed to wear steel toe and a bit at home. The slimmer running ones i have only used to do pushups and stretches at home so far. A review would be awsome if u get the chance. And honestly i felt stronger just on the small time i put in and also try to walk barefoot more often and own a pair of Lems boulder boots that help too
@@brushstroke3733 that's great to hear! sounds like you're all in on Whitin, but have you tried shoes from Splay? very similar price point but i like how they're styled better than the Whitins and i hear they're more durable
I have the ones with the gum bottoms with no velcro lace but I don't use them for physical activity just to walk around in. They are amazingly comfortable. I use them in the gym when I'm doing leg exercises so that I get full definition in my legs.
this was a great review! I got just a basic pair that I'm waiting for to be delivered. I wanted to try Whitin since they are some of the cheapest out there. I think they will be a good start to going to barefoot shoes.
Thanks for the review! I liked your style of presentation - no-nonsense and straight to the point, while still being friendly and accessible. Would you say the shoes on the far right or left would be suitable for running as well?
Thanks for your kind comment. While I think you could run in either pair of shoes on the left or right, I wouldn't recommend them for exercise running. If you need to break into a sprint in them for some reason, you could with no problem, but the pair in the middle is definitely best suited for athletic purposes. They have an even better design without the velcro strap that I bought when those shoes gave out, and I'm still using them today, which is well over six months use now. They are starting to wear through slightly on the mesh tops, but still functional. I really like them and will order another pair. Meanwhile, I am also still wearing both pairs shown on the left and right sides here, which makes them about 14 - 15 months old now.
I used to get Xeros since the internet rabbit hole took me to the owners info. Dude advocated the death of our previous President. I stay away from politics and I steer clear of companies that get involved.
I tried the style on the far right and had to return them. It had very high arch support and felt like I was standing on golf balls. I wouldn't consider it zero drop at all. I recommend lems and xero.
Thanks. Maybe, but it's a bit off topic for my channel now, which is mostly about collecting toys (and occasionally my musical productions.) I continue to buy and wear WHITIN shoes though. I still have both pairs of shoes that had not yet failed at the time of recording, though the pair without laces has cracks in the soles that suck water into them on rainy days. I have since bought two more pairs of running shoes with laces only and one pair of canvas shoes (look like Vans with no label.) All have served and are serving me well.
I think they are all fine for the gym. However, if you're doing squats or lunges and need a lot of stability, I find the style with the indication of toes (fingers?) to have the widest base. Those are also best for running, so if you use treadmill, I recommemd those. Otherwise, if you're only doing leg presses, quad extensions, hamstring curls, etc., or upper body, any of them would be fine.
@@brushstroke3733 awesome thanks, yea no running or or anything like that. Mainly for free weights, benches , cable machines, things like that in my home gym. I recently worked out barefoot (just socks) and LOVED it, but when im doing anything that I need to plant my feet and pull or push against, my feet would slip inside the socks. I knew nothing of these shoes and ordered a pair of their sock shoes that are basically socks with aggressive rubber grip on the bottom. But after I ordered them I saw that they also make all types of bare foot shoes with a few different models that seem so similar with no explanation of what the difference is.
That pair is the best looking, but the hardest to put on. I actually have to untie to laces to get them on, but how lazy am I if that's a problem for me?! Thanks for commenting!
Choose the pair with the indications of toes. My favorite pair now are the pair I got to replace those with the velcro strap that broke. They are almost the same but with no velco strap. www.amazon.com/dp/B07TT3N1S9/ref=twister_B07PBF72RG
@@joebotz1243 The pair on my right look much more like normal canvas shoes. I like them and still have that pair. They just don't slip on like the other pairs can.
Whiting shoes are cost effective compared to traditional over priced shoes like xero shoes vibram etc. I mainly been wearing water shoes, dive booties, resold boots converted to zero drop, moccasins I diyed myself and gone barefooted for 6 years.
Thank you for sharing your experience. I had been considering trying some of the brand name shoes, but I'm still so satisfied with the Whitins I wear that now hearing your perspective, I might just skip the fancy brands. Also like your idea to repurpose other shoes and boots. Going actual barefoot seems like the best possible option, though not necessarily in urban and suburban areas.
For the most part I go barefooted when I train in muay thai, and walk except for when I go grocery shopping I'll wear my converted shoes, dive booties, moccasins or water shoes. The town I'm I'm gives me foul looks when I go shopping without shoes.
@@elsuperpollo2273 I'm always surprised at how uncomfortable some things make people, like you being barefoot while grocery shopping. Your feet aren't any dirtier than their shoes! And why fear dirt anyway?
@@brushstroke3733 Hi, it's the way the toe of a shoe goes upwards at an angle, to "help" with the motion of walking etc. It winds up making the toes lean upwards and interferes with the ability to place the proper weight on them, instead promoting a more leaned back posture. Some shoes have it at first glance but the sole is flexible enough for the toes to flatten. Most shoes have it embedded into the structure of the rubber outsole, making it firm and unyielding. It's easier to feel the toe spring angle by putting your hand inside the shoe and using your fingertips to discern any upward angle, or placing something flat like a phone in the shoe and seeing how much pressure it takes to make the flat phone rest evenly with the whole footbed including the toes. Thanks for your videos!
@@ouiwalk Thank you for the excellent explanation/description of firm toe spring. Now I know, and yes, i would say that all but the more stylish laced shoes made by WHITIN have firm toe spring. I just tried putting on one of the trail running shoes and left the other foot bare and could feel that my toes in the shoe were not laying flat. Now that you mention it, I'm not sure whether I prefer the firm toe spring for walking/running, or if I'd actually rather have no toe spring. Eventually, I should try a pair of Vevo to compare.
@@brushstroke3733 Thank you for the info. In theory the toe spring promotes a more fluid gait when moving forward. I cut the uppers off a pair of altra running shoes and sewed them onto a flat piece of leather to create a true flat shoe, and the difference in being able to stand flat on my feet is literally a breath of fresh air. Like it literally has changed the dynamic of my posture enough to effect my breathing. I had two torn ACL's in three years that i feel like were a direct result of the improper structure created in my legs from the high toe spring shoes. Being able to walk with my toes engaged properly has changed the whole dynamic of my gait and posture. I thought that 'zero drop' as is written on my altras actually meant a flat shoe, but it really means no heel rise. The toes are like 1/4 inch higher than the heel and it took me several years to realize how much that actually messed up my foot and posture. Thanks again for such a detailed review and follow up.
Is this your first set of ground or sorry barefoot shoes and I usually wear like Adidas or Nikes but I want to try these out I think they're like 40 bucks on Amazon right now I like the one in the far right that looks like more my style I kind of want it to be a little bit snug around at least the ankle so I know it doesn't slip off I mainly use them for the gym I bike to work not far and I walk but not too much probably like average
Yes, these were my first set of barefoot style shoes. I haven't tried any Asics or Nike barefoot shoes but used to wear conventional Asics running shoes for many years. I find the size and fit comparable, so if you have a size you like in Asics, I think that size will work well for you in this brand.
Yes, but also no, because I got another pair when those broke that I like even better for running, etc. They are also WHITIN brand and have the similar toe-indicating shape in the front, but they do not have the velcro strap. They are laces only. I've worn them since the last pair broke and will make a 6 month review video of them in about 6 weeks.
Hey! Thanks for the video. Just to confirm, you used to buy size 12 for regular shoes too right? It’s mot like you need to buy different sizes for barefoot shoes, at least for within brand
You're welcome, and thank you for your comment. Yes, you are correct - I wore size 12 in regular shoes as well. I have tried Weweya brand shoes as well now and they are slightly larger than true size in my experience. My favorite pair of WHITIN shoes now are the pair I got to replace the ones that failed. They have the indications of toes the same as that previous pair, but no velcro strap. They're awesome for running and walking in. The other two pairs reviewed in this video are still going stong at about 15 months old now.
Yes, but they make another very similar design with no strap, only laces. I have two pairs of those now because they're my favorite. The older pair I save for trail running, the newer pair I wear for walking.
@@NopeNope78 It's probably me who is wrong as I don't know the terms that well. To clarify, these only have indications of toes on the sole - there is no actual separation between the toes.
I really have no idea. I don't use a distance tracker and I don't have a regular run schedule. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful about how many miles they might be good for.
Yes, but she will need some time to adjust to walking in them before going on super long power walks in them! I recommend the styles that have the indications of toes - those styles are best for long walks, runs, basketball, etc.
I can't say with much confidence as I do not climb. I recommend trying the style with the indications of toes at the front, but with laces only. They are not shown in this review as I got them to replace the pair with the broken velcro strap in this video.
The only other brand I've tried are Wiara, but they did not fit quite as well. They were slightly oversized and I could feel the rubber through the fabric or on the inside of the fabric at the front of the toes. It wasn't awful, but it did create a slightly uncomfortable feeling.
No, I do not think it is. They might be somewhat water resistant if you used a product like Scotch Guard on them, but if you walk through water, I would expect to get wet feet.
It fluctuates. Sometimes up to three times a week, though often it's only once a week or every two weeks. My usual routes are probably about 3.5 - 6.5 miles is my guess, though I don't use a pedometer to track steps or distance. These shoes seem to last longer for me than did my previous $80+ running shoes from Asics (spelling?), but again, I never tracked the actual milage on any of them. Hope this helps.
I find their sizing very accurate. I used to wear Asics primarily, and they fit me about the same. I tried a pair of Wiara brand and those were slightly oversized, leaving about 3/8 inch between my toes and the front of the shoe. I did not like the fit of the nearly as much.
Right! I think they're great for the price. They've held up for me as well as any brand name shoe I've worn, and those are all twice the price or more.
I think they are 5mm, though I have not cut them in half and performed the cross sectional measurement. I think the info is also on the description of the items wherever you buy them from.
Not much honestly. Just a bit of shooting around, practicing layups, etc. I felt comfortable moving in them and jumping in them, but I didn't play an intense game in them or play for hours.
I also got some Weweya brand recently. Those are big for their size. So if you are worried about WHITIN being too small at size, give Weweya a try instead.
@@phanomsinhissaramounarart6991 In that case, I recommend the styles that indicate toes in the design look. Those seem to have the widest toe box of all of them and are the most comfortable all around.
I have very similar WHITIN Men's Cross-Trainer | Barefoot & Minimalist Shoe but mine have the knit style polyester upper, not the smooth, sort of rip-stop upper of yours.
The reason I ordered that style was because of reviews that indicated the knit type upper is more durable.
1 reviewer has used them for hiking / backpacking running and trail running and at the 18-month mark, the insert failed but otherwise good.
My primary reason for buying them is that I have a full-size functional trainer and wanted the gum sole and minimalist shoe to get better grip and better connection to the floor while lifting weights with the functional trainer.
My experience is that while leaning forward to perform presses and flys, I'm instinctively flexing my feet as if trying to grip the floor like a monkey might grip a branch with their feet.
The floor gripping thing happens almost instinctively I don't even think about it, it just happens every time.
Initially the bottoms of my feet had the same delayed onset muscle soreness (DOMS) that you feel the day after lifting weights, but my feet have adapted and that no longer happens.
I assume the DOMS meant my feet were growing stronger and there really can't be anything bad about that.
This was the type of review that I was looking for!!!! Thanks for the info.
You're welcome! Glad my review was of some help to you! I'm still wearing these shoes and loving how they feel. I have yet to try any of the name brands though.
Thanks for the video!! I’ve been considering these shoes and there’s not much info out there
The pair on the far left are great if you buy the extra wide version, no need to undo the factory lacing! But not good for basket ball because they will fly off your feet. I use them as daily’s
This is really helpful! Thank you!!!
Appreciate your review. 6 months sound pretty good for a minimal shoe your playing basketball in. I'm sure most aren't using there's that hard outside of normal running
I just received the trail runners today. I normally wear 7.5 or 8 on mens shoes. I ordered a size 7 based on the size chart provided. That was also the smallest size offered. Definitely go by the measurment of your foot, not the shoe. They are just a little long but otherwise, a great fit. My bunions fit in the sole. I don't ride on the edge of the sole like in my Xero shoes ( they used to make them wider). The insole appears to have arch support but will just flatten when you stand on it. To my utter suprise (because no reviewer has mentioned this) there is a thin layer of cushioning foam lining sewn into the bed of the shoe. So you still get some cushion without the insoles. I took about 3 years to transition to barefoot shoes. These are a great transition shoe. They are soft and roomy inside. I'm wearing them out of the box without socks and nothing is rubbing my foot. My Xero shoes have a lot of stitching that rubs my bare foot. I'm very excited to wear these shoes this summer.
Awesome! Great comment - you added a lot of helpful review information that I didn't cover in the video. You are right that the trail runners include a thin layer of cushioning and an arch support insert. I just remove the arch support insert and don't use them in mine. Thanks for the feedback and the added details to help other viewers decide if these shoes might be a fit for them. I still haven't tried the Xero shoes and would like to someday, but these are such a good price and work well for me.
@@brushstroke3733 There is no arch support in the insole. Everyone keeps saying this but the insole is only contoured at the arch to fit in the shoe. It appears to be risen but it is as thin as the rest of the insole.
@@Snaketamer-w4y Yes, thank you for the correction, i'm getting senile!
Thank you for the review and update!
Thank you for your comment!
Great information, I've been considering whitin.
I hope you do another video soon and discuss all your changes since then.
I've been trying to read all the comments below to get more info, but a comprehensive video would absolutely be appreciated, especially since people are trying to pinch pennies these days.
Thank you so much for your time.
I'm a toy lover too, so I came for the whitin, and am going to stay for the toys, haha.
Thanks, I appreciate the feedback and encouragement to make another update video.
I've been wearing WHITIN shoes for almost three whole years now and very much enjoying their function and fit. My feet may have grown in width slighly from no longer being closed in by cast-like normal shoes, but I don't know for sure because I didn't take images or measurements before switching to open toe box, zero drop shoes. At least I don't have platar fascitis anymore!
Thanks for looking around and finding some of the toy videos. I need to make a few more soon.
Have an excellent day!
Exactly what I was looking for. Size 12 too.
Great review! Whitin needs more stylish hi tops.
hey it's been a year, gonna do an update video?
Maybe, but you might be the only person who watches it! I still have and wear the two pairs that lasted through six months (they're now about 18 months old), and bought a different pair of WHITIN shoes with the toe outlines that is lace only (no velcro or string pulling mechanism) when I made this video that are now over a year old. I recently bought a second pair of those shoes to wear exclusively for trail running and retired the first pair from running to now walking. I still really like all of them and think they're a great deal for about $40/pair.
@@brushstroke3733 i actual just bought all those 3 shoes lol. The one that snapped the buckle on you i just ordered earlier today and the casual ones i got away with using 3 times for work for the last hour or 2 even though were supposed to wear steel toe and a bit at home. The slimmer running ones i have only used to do pushups and stretches at home so far. A review would be awsome if u get the chance. And honestly i felt stronger just on the small time i put in and also try to walk barefoot more often and own a pair of Lems boulder boots that help too
@@brushstroke3733 that's great to hear! sounds like you're all in on Whitin, but have you tried shoes from Splay? very similar price point but i like how they're styled better than the Whitins and i hear they're more durable
@@natezab5598 No, I haven't heard of Splay before. Thanks for letting me know about them - I'll give them a try next time I buy shoes!
great review, much appreciated! really appreciate you tried to tear the other shoe too haha
I have the ones with the gum bottoms with no velcro lace but I don't use them for physical activity just to walk around in. They are amazingly comfortable. I use them in the gym when I'm doing leg exercises so that I get full definition in my legs.
this was a great review! I got just a basic pair that I'm waiting for to be delivered. I wanted to try Whitin since they are some of the cheapest out there. I think they will be a good start to going to barefoot shoes.
Thanks! I think you will enjoy them. They're all I've been wearing for almost three years now, and I love them.
Thanks for the review 👍🏼
Thanks for the review! I liked your style of presentation - no-nonsense and straight to the point, while still being friendly and accessible. Would you say the shoes on the far right or left would be suitable for running as well?
Thanks for your kind comment. While I think you could run in either pair of shoes on the left or right, I wouldn't recommend them for exercise running. If you need to break into a sprint in them for some reason, you could with no problem, but the pair in the middle is definitely best suited for athletic purposes. They have an even better design without the velcro strap that I bought when those shoes gave out, and I'm still using them today, which is well over six months use now. They are starting to wear through slightly on the mesh tops, but still functional. I really like them and will order another pair. Meanwhile, I am also still wearing both pairs shown on the left and right sides here, which makes them about 14 - 15 months old now.
Xero shoes are my go to. Currently wearing a pair of their HFS
I used to get Xeros since the internet rabbit hole took me to the owners info. Dude advocated the death of our previous President. I stay away from politics and I steer clear of companies that get involved.
I tried the style on the far right and had to return them. It had very high arch support and felt like I was standing on golf balls. I wouldn't consider it zero drop at all.
I recommend lems and xero.
Thanks for your comment.
This was awhile ago but I believe the insole is for those who want a arch support but many people want zero drop with flat sole and remove the insole.
Great info. Thank you
You're welcome, and thanks for reminding me it's almost time for a year review!
@@brushstroke3733 that will be great. I just bought my first 2 products from them. I look forward to that as well.
I am just gotten in to barefoot running with these shoes. So far so good, I have taken to it easily.
Which version do you use for running? I have the canvas ones for walking and I absolutely love them.
Good Review. Look forward to another?
Thanks. Maybe, but it's a bit off topic for my channel now, which is mostly about collecting toys (and occasionally my musical productions.) I continue to buy and wear WHITIN shoes though. I still have both pairs of shoes that had not yet failed at the time of recording, though the pair without laces has cracks in the soles that suck water into them on rainy days. I have since bought two more pairs of running shoes with laces only and one pair of canvas shoes (look like Vans with no label.) All have served and are serving me well.
@@brushstroke3733 Thanks!
which one of these do you think would be better for the gym? there's not much explanation of the differences in their shoes on their site
I think they are all fine for the gym. However, if you're doing squats or lunges and need a lot of stability, I find the style with the indication of toes (fingers?) to have the widest base. Those are also best for running, so if you use treadmill, I recommemd those. Otherwise, if you're only doing leg presses, quad extensions, hamstring curls, etc., or upper body, any of them would be fine.
@@brushstroke3733 awesome thanks, yea no running or or anything like that. Mainly for free weights, benches , cable machines, things like that in my home gym. I recently worked out barefoot (just socks) and LOVED it, but when im doing anything that I need to plant my feet and pull or push against, my feet would slip inside the socks. I knew nothing of these shoes and ordered a pair of their sock shoes that are basically socks with aggressive rubber grip on the bottom. But after I ordered them I saw that they also make all types of bare foot shoes with a few different models that seem so similar with no explanation of what the difference is.
How have these shoes held up for you for bike riding?
Thanks for this review! I'm gonna get myself the pair on the far left
That pair is the best looking, but the hardest to put on. I actually have to untie to laces to get them on, but how lazy am I if that's a problem for me?! Thanks for commenting!
Could you specify the exactly models lf the shoes? Thank you very much for your video.
Hi, I need a pair of wide, foot shaped but stiffer soled shoe for cycling. Just wondering which are best for that?
Choose the pair with the indications of toes. My favorite pair now are the pair I got to replace those with the velcro strap that broke. They are almost the same but with no velco strap. www.amazon.com/dp/B07TT3N1S9/ref=twister_B07PBF72RG
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That is my advice too. But people around me are hard to convnce. Sorry for them.
I have the ones in the middle how do they compare to the ones on your right? Thinking about getting those for work
@@joebotz1243 The pair on my right look much more like normal canvas shoes. I like them and still have that pair. They just don't slip on like the other pairs can.
Whiting shoes are cost effective compared to traditional over priced shoes like xero shoes vibram etc. I mainly been wearing water shoes, dive booties, resold boots converted to zero drop, moccasins I diyed myself and gone barefooted for 6 years.
Thank you for sharing your experience. I had been considering trying some of the brand name shoes, but I'm still so satisfied with the Whitins I wear that now hearing your perspective, I might just skip the fancy brands. Also like your idea to repurpose other shoes and boots. Going actual barefoot seems like the best possible option, though not necessarily in urban and suburban areas.
For the most part I go barefooted when I train in muay thai, and walk except for when I go grocery shopping I'll wear my converted shoes, dive booties, moccasins or water shoes. The town I'm I'm gives me foul looks when I go shopping without shoes.
@@elsuperpollo2273 I'm always surprised at how uncomfortable some things make people, like you being barefoot while grocery shopping. Your feet aren't any dirtier than their shoes! And why fear dirt anyway?
True but when store owners tell you to leave for being barefooted legally you need to leave.
Is there a firm toe spring in the basketball shoe? I want to be able to place my toes flat like in vivos. Thanks.
I'm not sure. What is a firm toe spring?
@@brushstroke3733 Hi, it's the way the toe of a shoe goes upwards at an angle, to "help" with the motion of walking etc. It winds up making the toes lean upwards and interferes with the ability to place the proper weight on them, instead promoting a more leaned back posture.
Some shoes have it at first glance but the sole is flexible enough for the toes to flatten. Most shoes have it embedded into the structure of the rubber outsole, making it firm and unyielding.
It's easier to feel the toe spring angle by putting your hand inside the shoe and using your fingertips to discern any upward angle, or placing something flat like a phone in the shoe and seeing how much pressure it takes to make the flat phone rest evenly with the whole footbed including the toes.
Thanks for your videos!
@@ouiwalk Thank you for the excellent explanation/description of firm toe spring. Now I know, and yes, i would say that all but the more stylish laced shoes made by WHITIN have firm toe spring. I just tried putting on one of the trail running shoes and left the other foot bare and could feel that my toes in the shoe were not laying flat. Now that you mention it, I'm not sure whether I prefer the firm toe spring for walking/running, or if I'd actually rather have no toe spring. Eventually, I should try a pair of Vevo to compare.
@@brushstroke3733 Thank you for the info. In theory the toe spring promotes a more fluid gait when moving forward. I cut the uppers off a pair of altra running shoes and sewed them onto a flat piece of leather to create a true flat shoe, and the difference in being able to stand flat on my feet is literally a breath of fresh air. Like it literally has changed the dynamic of my posture enough to effect my breathing.
I had two torn ACL's in three years that i feel like were a direct result of the improper structure created in my legs from the high toe spring shoes. Being able to walk with my toes engaged properly has changed the whole dynamic of my gait and posture.
I thought that 'zero drop' as is written on my altras actually meant a flat shoe, but it really means no heel rise. The toes are like 1/4 inch higher than the heel and it took me several years to realize how much that actually messed up my foot and posture.
Thanks again for such a detailed review and follow up.
The only comment I have would be the cost comparison. I think the Whitins are far less expensive.
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Is this your first set of ground or sorry barefoot shoes and I usually wear like Adidas or Nikes but I want to try these out I think they're like 40 bucks on Amazon right now I like the one in the far right that looks like more my style I kind of want it to be a little bit snug around at least the ankle so I know it doesn't slip off I mainly use them for the gym I bike to work not far and I walk but not too much probably like average
Yes, these were my first set of barefoot style shoes. I haven't tried any Asics or Nike barefoot shoes but used to wear conventional Asics running shoes for many years. I find the size and fit comparable, so if you have a size you like in Asics, I think that size will work well for you in this brand.
Did you use the sizing system they have on amazon and how was it? They said you need to add 1.5 cm
Plus thanks for the review
For the ones that broke, would you recommend them for track and field for high school athletes? They cannot use track shoes with spikes.
Yes, but also no, because I got another pair when those broke that I like even better for running, etc. They are also WHITIN brand and have the similar toe-indicating shape in the front, but they do not have the velcro strap. They are laces only. I've worn them since the last pair broke and will make a 6 month review video of them in about 6 weeks.
@@brushstroke3733 can u link to the shoe u like better?
Hey! Thanks for the video.
Just to confirm, you used to buy size 12 for regular shoes too right? It’s mot like you need to buy different sizes for barefoot shoes, at least for within brand
You're welcome, and thank you for your comment. Yes, you are correct - I wore size 12 in regular shoes as well. I have tried Weweya brand shoes as well now and they are slightly larger than true size in my experience. My favorite pair of WHITIN shoes now are the pair I got to replace the ones that failed. They have the indications of toes the same as that previous pair, but no velcro strap. They're awesome for running and walking in. The other two pairs reviewed in this video are still going stong at about 15 months old now.
Can you please tell me the exact name of the right shoe in the video? cant find them
Look for whitin on Amazon they’ll be there
The ones that gave up, are they 5 fingers? They look like it.
Yes, but they make another very similar design with no strap, only laces. I have two pairs of those now because they're my favorite. The older pair I save for trail running, the newer pair I wear for walking.
@@brushstroke3733 I just asked another channel and they said they weren’t 5 fingers and you tell me they are lol it’s confusing
@@NopeNope78 It's probably me who is wrong as I don't know the terms that well. To clarify, these only have indications of toes on the sole - there is no actual separation between the toes.
How many miles do you estimate having in the running shoe?
I really have no idea. I don't use a distance tracker and I don't have a regular run schedule. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful about how many miles they might be good for.
My mom is 70. I feel she needs Minimalist shoes to enjoy super long power walks. Do you recommend these shoes for Older Women?
Yes, but she will need some time to adjust to walking in them before going on super long power walks in them! I recommend the styles that have the indications of toes - those styles are best for long walks, runs, basketball, etc.
Which ones would you recommend for climbing?
I can't say with much confidence as I do not climb. I recommend trying the style with the indications of toes at the front, but with laces only. They are not shown in this review as I got them to replace the pair with the broken velcro strap in this video.
What are the shoes you use for basketball called? I want to get them
Thank you for this content. What other barefoot shoes have you hooped in?
The only other brand I've tried are Wiara, but they did not fit quite as well. They were slightly oversized and I could feel the rubber through the fabric or on the inside of the fabric at the front of the toes. It wasn't awful, but it did create a slightly uncomfortable feeling.
the canvas is waterproof?
No, I do not think it is. They might be somewhat water resistant if you used a product like Scotch Guard on them, but if you walk through water, I would expect to get wet feet.
How much and how far do you run in these?
It fluctuates. Sometimes up to three times a week, though often it's only once a week or every two weeks. My usual routes are probably about 3.5 - 6.5 miles is my guess, though I don't use a pedometer to track steps or distance. These shoes seem to last longer for me than did my previous $80+ running shoes from Asics (spelling?), but again, I never tracked the actual milage on any of them. Hope this helps.
How is sizing with these models?
I find their sizing very accurate. I used to wear Asics primarily, and they fit me about the same.
I tried a pair of Wiara brand and those were slightly oversized, leaving about 3/8 inch between my toes and the front of the shoe. I did not like the fit of the nearly as much.
Nice video but no info on the brand of the shoes described
The brand name is in the title. WHITIN. It's an Amazon brand, generic, what more do you expect me to say?
Not to bad for the price right?
Right! I think they're great for the price. They've held up for me as well as any brand name shoe I've worn, and those are all twice the price or more.
How thick are the soles?
I think they are 5mm, though I have not cut them in half and performed the cross sectional measurement. I think the info is also on the description of the items wherever you buy them from.
This bloke knows his months
Please describe your basketball experience in barefoot shoes
Not much honestly. Just a bit of shooting around, practicing layups, etc. I felt comfortable moving in them and jumping in them, but I didn't play an intense game in them or play for hours.
Are they true to size or should I get them one size up?
I have found them to be true to size.
I also got some Weweya brand recently. Those are big for their size. So if you are worried about WHITIN being too small at size, give Weweya a try instead.
@@brushstroke3733 I want wide toe box. I want to use the for squat and deadlift.
@@phanomsinhissaramounarart6991 In that case, I recommend the styles that indicate toes in the design look. Those seem to have the widest toe box of all of them and are the most comfortable all around.
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