I was thinking the same thing but if you look at the summary thing (idk) it says "as seen in the comics" Mr Freeze's origin debuted in the 1992 animated series and was then added to the comics
My favorite origins of Batman villains in order are 1 Joker 2 Penguin 3 Two Face 4 Killer Croc 5 Mr Freeze 6 Deadshot 7 Ra's al ghul 8 Catwoman 9 Poison Ivy 10 Harley Quin
A non- origin story makes number one of the list because he is the most popular character... I get that Joker is at the top literally only because he is the #1 Batman villain, but could you have at least chose a real origin story? You could have used the Killing Joke, which while it isn't a confirmed origin story, is a good "maybe it happened, maybe it didn't" story.
kwingsletsplays Did you even watch the video? There are only two New 52 stories in this and they didnt even try to include the inferior New 52 Freeze origin from Batman Annual #1. How is particular video a NU52 vehicle? Since this list is only for comics, BTAS doesn't count as good as the story is .
Arkham Knight What are you trying to say? Batman related comics are the best sellers in New 52 so naturally any Batman villain automatically becomes DC best selling villains. If this list was so New52 oriented then why didn't they also include the Court of Owls. I am curious to see you make a list of top 10 best Batman villain origins without inclusion of villains that have appeared in New 52 so far. Make sure that they have better origin stories than this list and don't just chuck in any two-bit Batman villains. I am honestly curios to see such a list.
My favorite villain origins are the last two of this video. However from different sources. 1.Joker : Killing Joke because it was so powerful and saddening and 2.Two Face: Batman the animated series. This origin of was a down right tear fest. It pretty much showed that Harvey isn't a bad guy
What about Scarecrow ?! scarecrow is so underrated he's my second Fav, Joker being my all-time favorite of course is and always will be number 1. 3 would be Mr.freeze !
From worst of the best to best of the best, mine would be... 10. Joker 9. Catwoman 8. Hush 7. Two-Face 6. Scarecrow 5. Clayface 4. Killer Croc 3. Manbat 2. Killer Moth 1. Mr. Freeze
time to "flame the comments list": Hits: Gaiman's Poison Ivy, Mad Love Harley Quinn, & Long Halloween Two-Face are THE origin stories for those characters. Kudos for those picks. Misses: No Batman TAS Mr Freeze? really though... you're not even kidding? He could/should have replaced Deadshot on this list. Also, Killing Joke definitely should have got the Joker nod...just saying.
The Killing Joke is an inexcusable omission on this list. Not only because it IS the definitive origin story for Batman's #1 villain, but also because of the place in comics history it holds. Any time you see Barbara Gordon in a wheelchair or as "Oracle" - then that is a world in which The Killing Joke occurred. By definition that makes it canon.
Two-Face should have been #1, it's the most in-depth origin we got. Though I'm surprised The Killing Joke isn't used as the "Joker Origin" story, either. Sure, there are "multiple choice" origins for him but I always figured Killing Joke was more or less definitive.
cool stuff, the fact that joker first appeared without any origin whatsoever just makes him more scary, and I loved how Scott synder did the red hood gang in zero year, kepted you geussing who is the joker the joker really is. Personally I would prefer if we never find out.
***** your opinion, maybe you didn't get it but i'm talking about final confrontation in which there was no clear answer given to weather the leader was the joker or not. which is what i thought was well done. it leaves the reader to decide.
***** The orirgin story about some guy who has an accident so his mind snaps and then he becomes a criminal master mind seems really lame to me, so what Snyder did by showing how Joker was before becoming the Joker fixed it, evil was already in him, he just have to had a pale white skin and green hair to be the clown prince of crime.
Two-Face is my favorite, but the Two-Face of the 1990 annual and the DeMatteis "Crime and Punishment" graphic novel. The descent into madness and the rage is shown in full detail, as are the scars from child abuse. It goes beyond just a cosmetic worry.
Bane came to Gotham because he feared bats and had a dream/vision of himself conquering that fear by destroying batman the most dangerous bat of them all
Superman sucks. Can you really call his villains, villains when apparently he's had to hold back his full power in every single fight (outside of doomsday and dark seid)?
#4 Oswald Cobblepot's story sounds a little like Norman Bates. #3 This story was first an episode of Batman: The Animated Series before being retold in comic book form. #1 While the Joker has no definitive origin, The Killing Joke comes closest to possible background stories.
Nice list but I'm surprised not to see Mr. Freeze on the list. I really like Clayman's origin story in BTAS. Actually that is some of favorite episodes from the series.
Given Joker doesn't have an origin story (or has too many), it doesn't make sense for him to be on the list. Sorry. no dice. No love for Bruce Timm's Mr. Freeze is quite annoying. Nu52's crazy Mr. Freeze is just a giant disappointment.
That's ironic since Two Face's name has the word "Two" in it but seriously where are the others Supervillains iconic origins of where they become Gotham's most dangerous Supervillains?
I beg you, DC. Please make a new Static Shock comic through retelling Static origin & please get rid of Static's latest ugly costume. He has such huge potential of bringing in more revenue to dc. Even a lot white DC fans were picking Static over Teen Titans and superman comics. Come on DC make it happen. OH!!! and Batman’s my favorite super hero. No one beats the Bat.
Joker has an origin in "The Killing Joke". He was a comedian named Jack who was paid by mob dealers to rob a chemical plant, but Batman accidentally pushed him into a vat of chemicals when he tried to escape. The chemicals fried his brain and turned his skin white and his hair green and all that.
TheSMLIFfilms Yes, but Joker doesn't know his origin story. The killing joke is one of the probably made up origin story of hi. But it's the most popular one and the one I love the most. And I'm not so sure if the name "Jack" is mentionned in killing joke, I know it's mentionned in the old batman movie.
TheSMLIFfilms Ahmm, No REDHOOD Mention,,, Ah Yea- Sounds like U never read "the Killing Joke" to me.. Unless someone made you watch an Early 90's T.Burton BATMN Movie & told you its really A book called "Killing Joke".
Hey were is TWO-FACE & SCARECROW ?? Cause *"Two-Face Year 1" (pt.1) is A definitive Top 10 (Best)* Origin story read.. Im happy Dini's HUSH made the list though. Cause that whole thing at the End of DINI'S (Detective comics) Barbershop books wit HUSH & the Nyguen Art is just 2Awesome! - See: Dective comics #845-850 & 852 + Streets of Gotham #1-4 & (15 or) 16 & 18-23..
Given, Christopher Nolan franchised Batman to the big screen and casted one of the greatest actors to play the Joker but who the hell cares what he did? Shouldn't this be based off the story and complexity of the origin and not just a big director making a implausible reason?
sigh... The Joker is like the absolute antithesis to Batman's character and an iconic villain and everything, but his origin story is so terrible. He definitely doesn't deserve to be on this list, especially since you guys are cheating.
obv the joker gonna be 1, the man w the multiple past that never gonna be reveal like he say pick a card any card. some1 gonna be good somes bad and some1 pure genius.
Actually the jokers story is he is a failing comedian struggling having everyone laugh at his failier so he kills his wife and becomes the leader of a criminal gang that tried to rob a bank but batman showed up and scared him into going into a nuclear plant next to the bank which he falls in acid and comes out with bleached skin and green hair
It is but we don't know who he is what was he and before all of that plus be has a multiple choice origin we dont know witch.one is legit but the only thing we know is that he dressed as a red hood person and feel in the acid
I came here to see Mr. Freeze at N. 1 and find out that he isn't even here. That's a crime.
I was thinking the same thing but if you look at the summary thing (idk) it says "as seen in the comics" Mr Freeze's origin debuted in the 1992 animated series and was then added to the comics
Well didn't Harley also debut in the animated show?
Yeah, but not her origin story.
To be honest I was to here to Mr. Freezes origin. Sadly it never made it for some reason. But they put some of the bland origins of other villains.
Scarecrow? Mr freeze? Where are they? There origins deserve to be on this list extremely!!
Definitely Scarecrow, Scarecrow in that new Arkham Knight has rekindled my interest in the villain and I'd enjoy seeing more of him
Yes, definitely
The Joker…. the one character who shouldn't have a definitive origin… sigh.
agreed
Unless you count the first Red Hood.
He's such a cool character his origin would probably be to simple and dissapointing
I agree *sigh* DC I'm disappointed in you
@@satanswife2546 the joker movie is not cannon.
If Joker is going to have a past, I prefer it to be Multiple Choice.
My favorite origins of Batman villains in order are
1 Joker
2 Penguin
3 Two Face
4 Killer Croc
5 Mr Freeze
6 Deadshot
7 Ra's al ghul
8 Catwoman
9 Poison Ivy
10 Harley Quin
No Mr. Freeze? Are you high?
I am and i'm just as surprised as you
A non- origin story makes number one of the list because he is the most popular character... I get that Joker is at the top literally only because he is the #1 Batman villain, but could you have at least chose a real origin story? You could have used the Killing Joke, which while it isn't a confirmed origin story, is a good "maybe it happened, maybe it didn't" story.
Where's BTAS Mr. Freeze
This is mostly a NU52 vehicle Top 10... also DC does not know what to do with Victor Freeze. T_T
kwingsletsplays Did you even watch the video? There are only two New 52 stories in this and they didnt even try to include the inferior New 52 Freeze origin from Batman Annual #1. How is particular video a NU52 vehicle?
Since this list is only for comics, BTAS doesn't count as good as the story is .
hexapod2000 The characters that they chose were in the new 52 best selling comics like detective comics and death of the family and other new 52
Arkham Knight What are you trying to say? Batman related comics are the best sellers in New 52 so naturally any Batman villain automatically becomes DC best selling villains. If this list was so New52 oriented then why didn't they also include the Court of Owls.
I am curious to see you make a list of top 10 best Batman villain origins without inclusion of villains that have appeared in New 52 so far. Make sure that they have better origin stories than this list and don't just chuck in any two-bit Batman villains. I am honestly curios to see such a list.
1. Mr.Freeze(BTAS)
2. Joker
3. Mad Hatter (Arkhamverse)
4. Killer Croc (Arkhamverse)
5. Penguin (BTAS)
6. Two-Face
7. Azreal
8. Bane
9. Deathstroke
10. Hush (Arkhamverse,Hush Arc)
Mr Freeze should of been here... without a shadow of doubt
I miss Catwoman's orgine. She had a pretty tough childhood (I don't mean the one where she gets her powers from cats. *shiver*)
I personally thought Scott Snyder's take on "The Riddler" made him cool, at least for me.
What about Scarecrow? He was abused as a child, and locked in a cellar for weeks, after his dad died.
Surprised The Killing Joke wasn't on here
I was just about to say that. I still believe that's the truest and most detailed origin of the Joker. It makes the most sense.
SkeletonJournal but is that the Joker's Origin? Even the Joker himself says that he likes a Multiple choice as an origin story.
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LVStud71 True but that cannon story made it offical that the joker was once just a ordinary man until he fell into acid.
Torrence Sampson I agree. It's the most well known and accepted origin story of the Joker.
Agree on Joker being the number one, but the origins of the Joker is in The Killer Joke so you should read it
it's not really considered as the "real" origin story, jokes doens't know his origin He just make them up but killing joke is the most popular one
I'm starting to get really into the Riddler, he very interesting.
My favorite villain origins are the last two of this video. However from different sources. 1.Joker : Killing Joke because it was so powerful and saddening and 2.Two Face: Batman the animated series. This origin of was a down right tear fest. It pretty much showed that Harvey isn't a bad guy
Freeze or two face should be number one
What about Scarecrow ?! scarecrow is so underrated he's my second Fav, Joker being my all-time favorite of course is and always will be number 1.
3 would be Mr.freeze !
yes!
From worst of the best to best of the best, mine would be...
10. Joker
9. Catwoman
8. Hush
7. Two-Face
6. Scarecrow
5. Clayface
4. Killer Croc
3. Manbat
2. Killer Moth
1. Mr. Freeze
Are you serious bro T
The way Jerry Robinson drew the Joker was genuinely terrifying. For its time, that really was a stroke of genius.
time to "flame the comments list":
Hits: Gaiman's Poison Ivy, Mad Love Harley Quinn, & Long Halloween Two-Face are THE origin stories for those characters. Kudos for those picks.
Misses: No Batman TAS Mr Freeze? really though... you're not even kidding? He could/should have replaced Deadshot on this list. Also, Killing Joke definitely should have got the Joker nod...just saying.
1° = The Killing Joke obviously
Mr. Freeze hands down!
Catwoman
The Killing Joke is an inexcusable omission on this list. Not only because it IS the definitive origin story for Batman's #1 villain, but also because of the place in comics history it holds. Any time you see Barbara Gordon in a wheelchair or as "Oracle" - then that is a world in which The Killing Joke occurred. By definition that makes it canon.
Two-Face should have been #1, it's the most in-depth origin we got. Though I'm surprised The Killing Joke isn't used as the "Joker Origin" story, either. Sure, there are "multiple choice" origins for him but I always figured Killing Joke was more or less definitive.
cool stuff, the fact that joker first appeared without any origin whatsoever just makes him more scary, and I loved how Scott synder did the red hood gang in zero year, kepted you geussing who is the joker the joker really is. Personally I would prefer if we never find out.
Same here, man
***** your opinion, maybe you didn't get it but i'm talking about final confrontation in which there was no clear answer given to weather the leader was the joker or not. which is what i thought was well done. it leaves the reader to decide.
***** The orirgin story about some guy who has an accident so his mind snaps and then he becomes a criminal master mind seems really lame to me, so what Snyder did by showing how Joker was before becoming the Joker fixed it, evil was already in him, he just have to had a pale white skin and green hair to be the clown prince of crime.
Two-Face is my favorite, but the Two-Face of the 1990 annual and the DeMatteis "Crime and Punishment" graphic novel. The descent into madness and the rage is shown in full detail, as are the scars from child abuse. It goes beyond just a cosmetic worry.
Bane came to Gotham because he feared bats and had a dream/vision of himself conquering that fear by destroying batman the most dangerous bat of them all
now that we have a batman list a superman list shouldn't be far behind, I'm calling lex and brainiac are top 2
3rd- bizarro
4th- metallo
Darkseid & Doomsday on top 5 easily
RetroBotMk2
Is Darkseid considered a Superman villain? The New 52 got me thinking he was a JLA villain, but am not sure about before.
Superman sucks. Can you really call his villains, villains when apparently he's had to hold back his full power in every single fight (outside of doomsday and dark seid)?
Long Halloween is definitely the best
#4 Oswald Cobblepot's story sounds a little like Norman Bates.
#3 This story was first an episode of Batman: The Animated Series before being retold in comic book form.
#1 While the Joker has no definitive origin, The Killing Joke comes closest to possible background stories.
A girl! Congratulations for the excellent locution and script!!!
Come on, DC. If you brought Harley Quinn from the TV to the comics, we want the same with Baby Doll. We want Baby Doll
Nice list but I'm surprised not to see Mr. Freeze on the list. I really like Clayman's origin story in BTAS. Actually that is some of favorite episodes from the series.
Nice. Excellent deduction on Joker's origin story.
You missed out The Mad Hater and the Scarecrow! And how about the greatest origin story of them all The Killing Joke?
you wanna know how i got these scars?
The Killing Joke has some good origin story that dives into the Joker.
Thanks for the information 😁
I loved Heart of Hush. Such an excellent origins story.
Ra's Al Ghul, Killer croc, Mr. Freeze, Solomon Grundy, Anarky?
Given Joker doesn't have an origin story (or has too many), it doesn't make sense for him to be on the list. Sorry. no dice.
No love for Bruce Timm's Mr. Freeze is quite annoying. Nu52's crazy Mr. Freeze is just a giant disappointment.
Jokers actual origin story (not killing joke but the OG one) is HORRIBLE. He just falls into a thing of acid
My top 3
3 Harley
2 Two face
1 Mr freeze
Two-Face would have been my number one, especially since Joker does not have a definitive origin.
That's ironic since Two Face's name has the word "Two" in it but seriously where are the others Supervillains iconic origins of where they become Gotham's most dangerous Supervillains?
I beg you, DC. Please make a new Static Shock comic through retelling Static origin & please get rid of Static's latest ugly costume. He has such huge potential of bringing in more revenue to dc. Even a lot white DC fans were picking Static over Teen Titans and superman comics. Come on DC make it happen. OH!!! and Batman’s my favorite super hero. No one beats the Bat.
"We all know Batman's Grumpy Cat origin story" 😅 LOL
Ditch Poison Ivy and add Ra's Al Ghul. Birth of Demon is one of the best villian origin story.
Top 10 Superman Villain Origins
Top 10 Flash Villain Origins
Top 10 Wonder Woman Villain Origins
Top 10 Aquaman Villain Origins
Do they not realize that most of those villains can't be in the "Gotham" show without throwing accuracy to the source material out the window?
Exactly
I actually prefer harvey's origin over the joker one :p Even if the joker doesnt actually have an origin
Joker has an origin in "The Killing Joke". He was a comedian named Jack who was paid by mob dealers to rob a chemical plant, but Batman accidentally pushed him into a vat of chemicals when he tried to escape. The chemicals fried his brain and turned his skin white and his hair green and all that.
TheSMLIFfilms Yes, but Joker doesn't know his origin story. The killing joke is one of the probably made up origin story of hi. But it's the most popular one and the one I love the most. And I'm not so sure if the name "Jack" is mentionned in killing joke, I know it's mentionned in the old batman movie.
TheSMLIFfilms Ahmm, No REDHOOD Mention,,, Ah Yea- Sounds like U never read "the Killing Joke" to me.. Unless someone made you watch an Early 90's T.Burton BATMN Movie & told you its really A book called "Killing Joke".
TheSMLIFfilms Um No The Joker Jumped In The Vat Od chemicals Not Pushed
Number1 should be Two Face
Numer2 should be Mr.Freeze
Number3 should be Penguin
Number4 should be Scarecrow
Number5 should be Hush
and the rest.
I agree
Why no Jason Tod as the Red Hood? He was abandoned by Batmsn and beaten to...sorta death by Joker, then Joker blew him up for good measure!
That's what happens in the game not the comics
eric he was never blown up in the game, and in the comic he still became the new red hood for the same reasons.
eric he became red hood originally in the comics.. and the animated film..
Batman didn't abandon him batman got knocked out then they kidnapped Jason and red hood isn't a batman villain he is a anti hero
+eric Do you not read Comics
For me Mr Freeze origin story is #1.
Good selection but I like suicide squade\forever evil take on Deadshots origin better. Feels more organic
mr.freeze has the best story. at least you had the integrity to admit you were cheating
Grumpy cat origin. His parents were funking shot in front of him
"If I had a past, I prefer it to be multiple choice!"
My list it doesn’t matter which order poison ivy cat woman joker clay face and mr freeze and penguin and riddler and killer moth
What about Killer croc origin in batman and robin 23.4
Poison Ivy
Hey were is TWO-FACE & SCARECROW ?? Cause *"Two-Face Year 1" (pt.1) is A definitive Top 10 (Best)* Origin story read..
Im happy Dini's HUSH made the list though. Cause that whole thing at the End of DINI'S (Detective comics) Barbershop books wit HUSH & the Nyguen Art is just 2Awesome!
- See: Dective comics #845-850 & 852 + Streets of Gotham #1-4 & (15 or) 16 & 18-23..
No Catwoman?
Oh well
she's a complicated one, can go either anti hero or villian sometimes
I don't know. I don't think I've read any Catwoman origin story that was really that great. Not compared to these ones, anyway.
Mr freeze :(
and the scarecrow ???
the jokers origin is told a little bit in the killing joke
and at the end he says; he's not sure/i dont remember. joker is supposed to be mysterious thats why he's so good
Given, Christopher Nolan franchised Batman to the big screen and casted one of the greatest actors to play the Joker but who the hell cares what he did? Shouldn't this be based off the story and complexity of the origin and not just a big director making a implausible reason?
where the s*** is mr. freeze and scarecrow
No Mr Freeze? Crazy.
sigh... The Joker is like the absolute antithesis to Batman's character and an iconic villain and everything, but his origin story is so terrible. He definitely doesn't deserve to be on this list, especially since you guys are cheating.
obv the joker gonna be 1, the man w the multiple past that never gonna be reveal like he say pick a card any card. some1 gonna be good somes bad and some1 pure genius.
I just wanna know if Tiffany Smith will be in the DC Cinematic Universe.
i thought no.1 would be mr freeze but he wasnt even here
I like Victor Freeze's origin
can you do something about catwoman she is my favorite!
No Scarecrow? Ah ok I guess...
the joker has an origin in batman endgame the new origin makes him immortal
Mister Freeze should be number 1
It should've been "the killing joke" my opinion
Actually the jokers story is he is a failing comedian struggling having everyone laugh at his failier so he kills his wife and becomes the leader of a criminal gang that tried to rob a bank but batman showed up and scared him into going into a nuclear plant next to the bank which he falls in acid and comes out with bleached skin and green hair
AMY HALL That's just the Killing Joke origin. The Joker has had many origins and no one knows which is his real one.
Where is Red Hood (Jason Tod)?
Now how about top ten Superman rogues origins?
Joker chemical plant worker red hood fell in toxic chemical and becomes joker
Deathstroke earn to be on the list
You always have to put joker in a batman villain top 10?
he's a great villain, yeah many people are tired of him being number one but hey; no other villain is as good apart from darth vader
Two Faces should be number 1.
awesome I love batman
I tought the jokers origin was when he was the red hood and fell into a chemical bath?
It is but we don't know who he is what was he and before all of that plus be has a multiple choice origin we dont know witch.one is legit but the only thing we know is that he dressed as a red hood person and feel in the acid
it will be 2face and riddler
the riddler should be higher
Babe should been at #4
Of course... Joker at number 1.
No Court of Owls?
Jokers unbeatable
jokers orgin the red hood what about that and wheres freeze come on guys
What about mr freeze????
*Cough*The Killing Joke*Cough*
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Batman's grumpy cat origin story...?
Arkam knight. Same. Were is he?