I live in Las Vegas. There is little Campus life atmosphere at UNLV. Most students are commuters. Sam Boyd is miles away from campus and has been abandoned. The only time UNLV draws is against BYU because there's a huge Mormon population in Las Vegas. Against Air Force because of Nellis Air Force base. And if they schedule teams like Wisconsin that have fans who travel well
Because yeah there are tons of air force personnel here. I guess same thing as army and navy, though, don't had to have necessarily gone to the service academy to support the team
I was at that Wisconsin game in 07 Total blast. Especially early when UNLV felt like they had a chance. "Lets play basketball" (10 seed UNLV beat 2 seed Wisconsin the previous March) Every game after that was worse and worse.
For the same reason Temple plays at Lincoln Financial Field in Philadelphia. So the city can claim college football. Plus, UNLV was a good soldier all those years out at Sam Boyd (a glorified high school stadium). They deserve some love.
Better question is *WHY WOUDLNT THEY?* I went to UNLV when they played at Sam Boyd stadium. It was on the edge of town 30 minutes from campus (at least) with terrible traffic. Tailgates were fun but Its a dump and in the middle of nowhere. Who cares if they don't open the upper deck, The atmosphere at Sam Boyd was just as sad and empty only at Sam Boyd it was HOT AS FUCK. They play in a world class stadium close to campus. Allegiant is only a 2 miles from campus and has the strip right there total win for UNLV.
@@BluePalmetto Think of all the lower income families that would give their kids a real thrill attending a game in a big, beautiful venue. That would have been me as a kid.
So you’re advocating UNLV to go back to Sam Boyd and leave Allegiant? You just lost all credibility with me or anyone who has attended games at both venues. Allegiant > Sam Boyd Not even close.
Exactly, that take was not a good one at all by Ginger, that would be going backwards. Why would a team move into a trashy old stadium that brings in nothing but heat. Allegiant is beautiful and I've been in both venues as well. It's like night and day as Allegiant is 10x better. It's not even close as you're talking about one fo the best new NFL stadiums in the league. UNLV just needs a new person in charge of the program who can do like UTSA has done and get it to fill up better.
No way in hell dude's a local or ever was tbh. Sam Boyd blows, they needed the bump up to Allegiant, and then to the people groaning about recruiting, UNLV (at least as of now) has the top recruiting class in the MWC for '24. They were not going to get higher caliber recruits playing at Sam Boyd. They're trying HARD to boost attendance. I got like 4 free tickets as a student for the opener
I’m a season ticket holder for UNLV and it actually makes so much sense because it’s better and the atmosphere is so nice you go no idea what you talking about
I live in Vegas, and let me just say that the Rebels moving to Allegiant makes way more sense than staying at Sam Boyd, regardless of how the atmosphere turns out. 1. it’s still incredibly hot in Vegas in September, usually not cooling off into fall temperatures (60-70° is fall here) until later October, and so the enclosed stadium really helps to create a more comfortable environment for the games to be played in. 2. Allegiant Stadium is MUCH closer to the UNLV campus than Sam Boyd is, not to mention in a more central location for the Las Vegas valley to make it easier for people to go to these games. 3. UNLV playing in Allegiant is no different than Temple playing at Lincoln Financial Field, Georgia State playing at Mercedes Benz Stadium in Atlanta, Cincinnati University Bearcats playing in Paycore Stadium, and I think there’s a school that plays at Nissan Stadium in Nashville (Tennessee State maybe?), and once upon a time San Diego State played in Qualcomm Stadium when both the Chargers AND PADRES played there, so the Rebels playing at Allegiant, sharing a venue with an NFL team, is not unusual for college football, and clearly, as you’ve seen with Cincinnati & San Diego, you can still produce strong college football teams and create strong college football atmospheres in these venues. UNLV hasn’t gotten there yet because they only recently moved into Allegiant, and are still trying to build themselves up in the new home. From what I’ve been able to tell since they’ve moved into the new stadium, while the crowds have been scarce, the location (proximity to campus & city location), stadium type, and field they play on, are boosting their recruiting, and overtime the team will get better, which will in turn improve the atmosphere inside the stadium on game days. I will say though that UNLV hasn’t been the best sports University though, as despite the years of Jerry Tarkanian coaching the Running Rebels basketball team to the 1990 National Championship, the school has very rarely had a team win anything of significance in any sport, and I’ve also heard rumors here that the administration doesn’t actually care all that much about their ENTIRE athletic department (which is downright disgraceful if true given that’s a major income source for the University). If they can get their act together with athletics, the school would find themselves on the sports map across the board given what Las Vegas has turned into over the years with sports in general, and would be a big draw both locally and nationally. The Vegas Golden Knights RAPIDLY pulled that off, and are idolized in this city, are a big time national draw, and have demonstrated an elite level of organizational operation. UNLV has the potential to do that here, they just have to actually do it with their entire athletics department.
I agree and UTSA has done a nice job of filling up the Alamodome, so it can be done, but UNLV is better off playing at Allegiant than hot and ugly Sam Boyd. Vegas has proved itself to be a pretty good sports town as they should have all four of the major sports populated in their city. If they can make their program a lot more competitive they can fill up Allegiant pretty easily to at least 60% capacity. UTSA is a brand new program as of the past decade and they play at the Alamodome another professional stadium and they fill it up pretty well. They keep competitive teams and UNLV needs to adopt that bluprint, they need a new athletic director to takeover who really cares about the program.
with Las Vegas already becoming a new sports hotbed (NHL & NFL currently & MLB & NBA coming soon) you’d think that UNLV would capitalize on this & how much it would generate their revenue. If they were smart enough they’d hire school officials to hire the right people & get UNLV a place for student athletes to build up their program.
Why UNLV plays in an NFL stadium? 1. UNLV used to play at Sam Boyd Stadium. It's horrible. About 30 minutes drive from campus. That means players, "fans", students, have to drive which sucks. Allegiant is such a better upgrade.
Vanderbilt had 350 people at a home game a few years ago, and they have a partial stadium at the moment with 28,000 seats, of which 18,000 are not needed.
If they have dirt cheap tickets (like 5-10 bucks) they may be able to get decent attendance and then gradually raise the price. I think the solution is a better promoter not a different stadium
I think that's the best option honestly as they'll make an extra $100 grand a game with cheaper ticket prices to get the rest of those seats filled and make the games feel bigger.
Sam Boyd was absolute trash as no Vegas team should be playing in that outdoor heat as they should never move back there. Sam Boyd was empty too and it looked even worse because it hot and ugly. Moving into beautiful Allegiant Stadium was the right move as their fans don't have to worry about weather. I like it when college teams play in NFL stadiums, but the only bad thing is that most of these schools aren't big schools, so they don't fill those stadiums unless they got a big opponent coming in like Temple had a few years ago when Penn State had a big night game against them. I wish the Minnesota Gophers never built their stadium, so they could've moved into US Bank Stadium as one of the few college teams that would've played in an NFL stadium that would've had it filled up. I think if UNLV was a better team they could get it 60% filled as they need some bigger opponents to come in. If they can still maybe build their own domed stadium with 40,000 capacity that would be great for the program.
Long before the Raiders became involved, the plan was for a much smaller new domed stadium for UNLV and every possible location they looked at were also the same locations the Raiders looked at after they became involved. Sam Boyd Stadium wasn’t even as good as Fertitta Field that belong to Bishop Gorman High School. It was time for something new. Also the upper tier is blocked off and tickets are not sold for it. Crowds are small but they are not 90% empty. Convenient pictures you used that are all pre game where everyone is out drinking inside the stadium in the club area or other concession areas.
The UNLV situation is much more nuanced. Sam Boyd is on the far east side of Vegas and nowhere near the Campus, so it never made much sense. Although it's not fancy it wasn't a bad venue. Allegiant is down the street from the Campus. The other issue is the quality of the teams. UNLV football is just really bad, they're not ever competitive. It's fine to lose, it's different when you're constantly getting blown out. Last year they started 4-1 with some close games so they were showing hope. But then got blown out 40 something to 7 in the next couple of games and went on to lose like 6 in a row. No one is going to pay to see that. They can't ever seem to recruit a QB that can throw, I honestly don't know why they don't just use an Option Offense like Army / Navy does. At least that way they wouldn't get completely destroyed every week. It wouldn't be so bad and the probably could at least fill the lower bowl if they just fielded a quality team.
Homie. You have some good content, but you don't have to change the tenor of your voice to sound like a stereotypical radio/tv sports guy. You don't sound older than 22, but are trying to talk like a 50 year old host of a rube sports call-in show. Just use your normal talking voice and be you.
There are teams that share the pro stadium. Why spend hundreds of millions to build a NFL palace an then spend more millions for an on campus for the collage team. Pitt and The Steelers share and Temple and the Eagles do to. It makes too much sense for city collages and those close to share. I loved Pitt Stadium when I went there. But it was not in great shape In its place they built The Pete for basketball and other things. Yes we lost the feel an playing on campus. But it was hell walking up "cardiac hill" Now they just stand at the right spots and a shuttle picks them up for a drive less than 5 miles.
I forgot about Pitt and UTSA also fills up the Alamodome which isn't an NFL stadium, but it's a professional facility. Acrisure Stadium in Pittsburgh is great for college football and Miami U does well at Hard Rock Stadium.
As a side note, in addition to UNLV & the Raiders, I see Allegiant Stadium as also being home to an MLS expansion team for two reasons. One is that the roof would allow matches to be played during the afternoon during the summer instead of waiting until the late evening when the temperatures go down to play. The other is that Allegiant is already built for soccer in addition to football & there would be no need to build a soccer specific stadium. Allegiant in its short history has already proven it can be a great soccer stadium as it has hosted a Gold Cup final between the US & Mexico & multiple preseason matches involving European clubs like Man United, Chelsea & Barcelona to name a few. I am sure that an MLS team would easily outdraw UNLV in my view & for those who think an MLS team would not draw well, they could tarp off the seats in the upper deck to make the atmosphere more intimate for soccer.
Vegas may get an MLS team with a 24K stadium if the league expands to 32 which is likely. That may a better venue for them until they start winning consistency. Good luck Coach Odom on turning that program around.
@depressedginger @7:22 you predicted Boise State @ UNLV this season, well turns out its for the conference championship lol. BTW, the San Jose State game was packed in the lower ring and it was loud ! Nothing like last couple seasons in there.
Also from what I can tell UNLV is very vested in Allegiant. Like they swap out the whole field, so one field sits outside painted for Raiders, then after UNLV plays they pull the UNLV field out and push the Raiders field in, its crazy.
Crazy, they move to a way better stadium and they start getting better players and winning kore games. Almost like players like playing in such a nice stadium instead of dying from heat exhaustion at Sam Boyd….
Sam Boyd used to host the Monster jam world finals from 2000 to 2018 or 2019 I think which is why one side of the stadium is open cause the trucks would start from outside the stadium and then speed down the sides down to the other end of the stadium and do a hook and finish with a dirt ramp, and that style was cause las Vegas style j racing cause of it being at Sam boyed. Now the MJ world finals take place where ever they choose due to Sam boyed being vacant of UNLV.
It was 2018 when it ended but in 2019 they host a regular show and an all-star challenge which was a very last time they do Vegas style racing one monster jam was there also fun fact allegiant Stadium can do Vegas style racing, because one side of the edge where you remove the seats there’s a elevated gap. Same way as Glendale State Farm Stadium, however, it’s not wide enough and plus I know the stadium does not want dirt in there track
I don't know if this is still true, but Tennessee State University played it's home games at Nissan Stadium in Nashville. While not a dome, attendance issues were similar.
TSU still plays at Nissan Stadium, but three things have changed: TSU no longer pays to play their games at Nissan Stadium, the Titians pay TSU when they play games at their small on campus stadium (which I am not even sure if it has lights for night games), and they are going to help them either upgrade or build a new on campus stadium. The lowest attendance of the last season for TSU at Nissan Stadium was 2,727 people against non NCAA Lincoln (CA). At best TSU draws around 23,000 at home coming depending on the team they are playing against.
the Raiders should buy up Sam Boyd and fix it up so they have a place to have summer practices; like Dallas has a facility in Frisco that they practice at
The old Sam Boyd Stadium isn't owned by UNLV either - It's owned by Clark County - First built in 1970 with just two sides, then they added the south end zone seats making it a U shape. Last addition was widening the old concourse & adding the two metal seats at the NW & NE corners
UNLV football is not in a power conference, and they get mediocre recruits. Having them play at Allegiant was supposedly an attraction for new recruits, but even the most talented local high school players would rather play at UCLA, USC, etc. Sam Boyd Stadium is way off campus, and the tickets for UNLV games can still be well over 100 dollars for watching a team that should only cost 20 dollars or less to watch. Plus I think Allegiant still price gouges their parking prices.
Remodel Silver Bowl. Good facility structure base, views as mentioned, easy to get to and parking galore. Renovate, do landscaping in that vast parking lot (don't get drunk and try to find your car like I did - take a compass), and you're good. I loved games out there.
UNLV has always been a commuter school since it became a university in the 60s. I grew up in Vegas in the late 70s and 80s and they had one dorm at the time. The University of Nevada is in Reno and is 150 years old next year. UNLV, which was previously Nevada Southern, has always had issues with community engagement, and the NFL and proposed sports pro teams will likely exacerbate that trend. I loved the old football field at Sam Boyd where the yard line graphics were done like the roulette wheel in red and black. Can't do that at Raiders stadium I suspect.
Of course nobody is going to be in the stands when you cherry pick your images at 30-60 minutes before game time. The players are still warming up on the field without pads! Bush league journalism.
I think if more people knew about this it would help draw people in just to experience the stadium. I can't see a ticket being very expensive and I'd rather see a game than pay for a tour. It is, after all, a modern marvel of engineering and a shrine to one of the all time legends of football. Just win baby!
What's the context here? Have you ever been to a game at allegiant? They're not empty like you're describing and the reason they play there is obvious...they are trying to become better at recruitment and Sam Boyd was comparable to a JUCO stadium. I guess I'm wondering where you're from, cause it'd be odd to just make a video on why SDSU plays at snapdragon (or previously Qualcomm with the Chargers) but simultaneously lack all nuance and insight you'd gain from actually going to a game or being a local. But that's basically what you did here with UNLV lol
Agreed. Attendance is about 25k, hardly 90% empty. In addition, they couldn't play agai at sam Boyd if they wanted because if the exclusive arrangement they signed with the raiders.
I’d say 70% is empty though since UNLV football averaged 20k fans last season and the max capacity is 65k. They only sell tickets for the lower bowl which seats 30k I think so it actually doesn’t look all that bad especially when you’re at a game in person. Since Las Vegas is a transient city, some people don’t live here too long which affects trying to attract the casual fan. Even then the casual fan only cares if you’re good which UNLV football hasn’t been historically. Generally, Vegas sports fans only care if you win. Since UNLV is the only university in town there is a lot of alums in town but they have only known UNLV football as a losing program which makes it hard for them to buy in to the program either. Last season they started out (4-1) and people were interested and started to show up. I think there are many UNLV fans in the city but they are hesitant that its the same old UNLV football and don’t want to show up and get their hopes up. I think if they were to truly become good at football for once you’ll see Allegiant stadium fill up for UNLV games.
Where does the team practice? where are the coaches offices, what is the locker rom (Raiders locker room shared!), `where is the medical and rehab facilities, where is the work out room...... all things that they miss playing in an NFL stadium
Why do NFL teams charge so much to use a stadium? I know colleges are raking in the dough but at least charge UNLV at cost. It's only a few games a year with nobody attending.
@@PredatorKingdom UTEP sold out its 2022 home opener and had another 5k people watching on the mountains overlooking the stadium. And UTEP sucks. When was the last time UTSA sold out a home game?
Actually you're super wrong about UTSA, although it's not a sellout per say every game it fills up pretty nicely to 60-75% capacity and it's still a newer program with a lot of early success. It looks way better than UNLV on gamedays, go back and watch their games, it fills up nicely. I think in due time they may think about getting a new facility, but they don't need it honestly.
I assume the Alamo dome seats about 55k 60% and only hit 75% (when UTEP played there). 60% of 55k is only 32k or so. That is not good! That is almost half empty. UTEP can sell out their stadium, and UTEP is a gatekeeper. 50,000 people haven't packed the alamodome for UTSA since their opening game a decade ago, but nobody UTEP did it in 2022.
@@ReisterJP Over 30k for a new football program is not bad at all, this isn't some blue bloods school that's been around for 100 years or more. UTEP is close to San Antonio, so of course they'd bring in more people. A lot of times attendance is associated with who the opponents are coming in. UTEP looks pretty full on TV most of the time and they had packed houses for their important late season games and conference championship games as well. Just because they're not hitting 50k or more regularly doesn't mean they won't get there eventually. It's still a newer football program in a non-power of 5 conference. If they had Texas, Oklahoma, or LSU coming in, it'd be a lot different.
UTSA are not new that is an excuse. they are over 10 years old and still don't have a single top 25 win and no bowls wins. liberty has only been around since 2018 and have both top 25 wins and a 3-1 bowl record.
I respect every player on every team, and I understand the alumni of any school wants that school to win. But. In the new world of college football super-conferences, someone is going to have to raise the question about whether all current teams can and should continue to field a team. Justification will be needed. And I don't know if UNLV will be able to make their case.
I see your point but I don’t think the experience is as bad as you’re making it out. And if they’re ever good which they have been and could be it would be cool. There’s hope to be competitive other than the Michigan game where it will prob be ugly in Michigan next wk:
I liked Sam Boyd much better. It wasn't a bad stadium. You were able to tailgate and the tickets were cheap. Now it's a mess to try and get there and there's nowhere to tailgate. It sucks
Oh it was a bad stadium, you can't lie and say it's anywhere close to the beauty of Allegiant Stadium, plus it's not ruined by the heat like Sam Boyd. It was never a better atomsphere either. Allegiant is more accessible and closer to campus. Sam Boyd was too far out and hard to get to without a car.
If I were UNLV I would've stayed at Sam Boyd and used that money they are spending to rent Allegiant to make revisions to Boyd. In 2023 college football you gotta have your own stadium. Miami playing at Hard Rock doesn't have the same feel (on t.v.) as playing at the Orange Bowl. Even though it's not close to campus, neither in the Rose Bowl for UCLA but the atmosphere there (on t.v) screams college football. For Allegiant Stadium it makes sense because they are basically filling dates and making money off of UNLV.
As a person myself has been to Sam Boyd Stadium before for mainly the monster jam world finals I’m just a little bit or kind of humongous upset that the stadium is now a Bandan but I just wish that the MLS could buy the stadium and re-vindicate it but however they just want to buy a new stadium in Las Vegas possibly close to downtown, which is kind of stupid in my eyes. I just hope there will be a team that will buy Sam boyd stadium. Hopefully they can remodel lies it or something.
It's never stupid to build a stadium near downtown or inside of downtown, that's usually always the best option. Sam Boyd is not a good option at all even if you rebuild it into something. They need to just let that thing die and demolish that piece of crap stadium.
Why would anyone consider adding UNLV to their conference knowing this fun fact that they are probably the biggest school to never have been in the AP top 25 rankings for football. Ever! Doesn't seem possible a school as known as UNLV would be with the other teams like Akron, App St. Arkansas St. Eastern Michigan, Idaho, etc...lol
I live in Las Vegas. There is little Campus life atmosphere at UNLV. Most students are commuters. Sam Boyd is miles away from campus and has been abandoned. The only time UNLV draws is against BYU because there's a huge Mormon population in Las Vegas. Against Air Force because of Nellis Air Force base. And if they schedule teams like Wisconsin that have fans who travel well
Mmm didn't even think of that. I live right across from nellis AFB didn't even consider they might go as well
Because yeah there are tons of air force personnel here. I guess same thing as army and navy, though, don't had to have necessarily gone to the service academy to support the team
Facts 💯
I was at that Wisconsin game in 07 Total blast. Especially early when UNLV felt like they had a chance. "Lets play basketball" (10 seed UNLV beat 2 seed Wisconsin the previous March) Every game after that was worse and worse.
Don't Forget Hawaii. Pretty beg draw when they schedule them. Lots of Hawaiians in Vegas.
For the same reason Temple plays at Lincoln Financial Field in Philadelphia.
So the city can claim college football. Plus, UNLV was a good soldier all those years out at Sam Boyd (a glorified high school stadium). They deserve some love.
Yep first thing that came to mind esp being a Temple alum.
Silver Bowl deserves loves. $200 million and can mimic San Diego States' new stadium.
Better question is *WHY WOUDLNT THEY?* I went to UNLV when they played at Sam Boyd stadium. It was on the edge of town 30 minutes from campus (at least) with terrible traffic. Tailgates were fun but Its a dump and in the middle of nowhere. Who cares if they don't open the upper deck, The atmosphere at Sam Boyd was just as sad and empty only at Sam Boyd it was HOT AS FUCK. They play in a world class stadium close to campus. Allegiant is only a 2 miles from campus and has the strip right there total win for UNLV.
UNLV should charge $1.00 per ticket to fill Allegiant Stadium. Even tourists might attend games just for the fun of it.
They should do that as they need to figure out a creative way like that to fill it up.
@@PredatorKingdom I'd attend if I were in town, even though UNLV is not my team. It's always fun to see a game in person.
That would be awesome in my opinion
@@BluePalmetto Think of all the lower income families that would give their kids a real thrill attending a game in a big, beautiful venue. That would have been me as a kid.
I'd go just to see Allegiant Stadium
The main reason UNLV is playing at Allegiant Stadium is because of how close the UNLV campus is to it.
>Why does UNLV Football play at an NFL Stadium? Because they CAN.
So you’re advocating UNLV to go back to Sam Boyd and leave Allegiant?
You just lost all credibility with me or anyone who has attended games at both venues.
Allegiant > Sam Boyd
Not even close.
Plus, Sam Boyd was deemed unusable due to lack repair of the infrastructure
Exactly, that take was not a good one at all by Ginger, that would be going backwards. Why would a team move into a trashy old stadium that brings in nothing but heat. Allegiant is beautiful and I've been in both venues as well. It's like night and day as Allegiant is 10x better. It's not even close as you're talking about one fo the best new NFL stadiums in the league. UNLV just needs a new person in charge of the program who can do like UTSA has done and get it to fill up better.
No way in hell dude's a local or ever was tbh. Sam Boyd blows, they needed the bump up to Allegiant, and then to the people groaning about recruiting, UNLV (at least as of now) has the top recruiting class in the MWC for '24. They were not going to get higher caliber recruits playing at Sam Boyd. They're trying HARD to boost attendance. I got like 4 free tickets as a student for the opener
I no I'm late but huh
I’m a season ticket holder for UNLV and it actually makes so much sense because it’s better and the atmosphere is so nice you go no idea what you talking about
Allegiant not far from the UNLV campus 😊😊😊
Correct, way closer than Sam Boyd
Most of the lower deck is filled at 9:08, that is a decent amount for UNLV. Plus being indoors is a huge bonus
I live in Vegas, and let me just say that the Rebels moving to Allegiant makes way more sense than staying at Sam Boyd, regardless of how the atmosphere turns out.
1. it’s still incredibly hot in Vegas in September, usually not cooling off into fall temperatures (60-70° is fall here) until later October, and so the enclosed stadium really helps to create a more comfortable environment for the games to be played in.
2. Allegiant Stadium is MUCH closer to the UNLV campus than Sam Boyd is, not to mention in a more central location for the Las Vegas valley to make it easier for people to go to these games.
3. UNLV playing in Allegiant is no different than Temple playing at Lincoln Financial Field, Georgia State playing at Mercedes Benz Stadium in Atlanta, Cincinnati University Bearcats playing in Paycore Stadium, and I think there’s a school that plays at Nissan Stadium in Nashville (Tennessee State maybe?), and once upon a time San Diego State played in Qualcomm Stadium when both the Chargers AND PADRES played there, so the Rebels playing at Allegiant, sharing a venue with an NFL team, is not unusual for college football, and clearly, as you’ve seen with Cincinnati & San Diego, you can still produce strong college football teams and create strong college football atmospheres in these venues. UNLV hasn’t gotten there yet because they only recently moved into Allegiant, and are still trying to build themselves up in the new home. From what I’ve been able to tell since they’ve moved into the new stadium, while the crowds have been scarce, the location (proximity to campus & city location), stadium type, and field they play on, are boosting their recruiting, and overtime the team will get better, which will in turn improve the atmosphere inside the stadium on game days.
I will say though that UNLV hasn’t been the best sports University though, as despite the years of Jerry Tarkanian coaching the Running Rebels basketball team to the 1990 National Championship, the school has very rarely had a team win anything of significance in any sport, and I’ve also heard rumors here that the administration doesn’t actually care all that much about their ENTIRE athletic department (which is downright disgraceful if true given that’s a major income source for the University). If they can get their act together with athletics, the school would find themselves on the sports map across the board given what Las Vegas has turned into over the years with sports in general, and would be a big draw both locally and nationally.
The Vegas Golden Knights RAPIDLY pulled that off, and are idolized in this city, are a big time national draw, and have demonstrated an elite level of organizational operation. UNLV has the potential to do that here, they just have to actually do it with their entire athletics department.
I agree and UTSA has done a nice job of filling up the Alamodome, so it can be done, but UNLV is better off playing at Allegiant than hot and ugly Sam Boyd. Vegas has proved itself to be a pretty good sports town as they should have all four of the major sports populated in their city. If they can make their program a lot more competitive they can fill up Allegiant pretty easily to at least 60% capacity. UTSA is a brand new program as of the past decade and they play at the Alamodome another professional stadium and they fill it up pretty well. They keep competitive teams and UNLV needs to adopt that bluprint, they need a new athletic director to takeover who really cares about the program.
with Las Vegas already becoming a new sports hotbed (NHL & NFL currently & MLB & NBA coming soon) you’d think that UNLV would capitalize on this & how much it would generate their revenue. If they were smart enough they’d hire school officials to hire the right people & get UNLV a place for student athletes to build up their program.
Georgia State doesnt play there
Cincinnati doesn't play at the Bengals stadium
@@Phateagle262 yes they do. Once in 3 years or something 🌚
Why UNLV plays in an NFL stadium?
1. UNLV used to play at Sam Boyd Stadium. It's horrible. About 30 minutes drive from campus. That means players, "fans", students, have to drive which sucks. Allegiant is such a better upgrade.
Answer: So state politicians can justify the $750 million dollars in taxpayer funds to build the stadium. "It was for the student-athletes!"🙄
Vanderbilt actually has a road game at UNLV it’s going to be very strange
So 8 people will be there lol
@@Raiderdre420oh you’ll be bringing your whole family? I’ll let the rebels know!
Vanderbilt had 350 people at a home game a few years ago, and they have a partial stadium at the moment with 28,000 seats, of which 18,000 are not needed.
If they have dirt cheap tickets (like 5-10 bucks) they may be able to get decent attendance and then gradually raise the price. I think the solution is a better promoter not a different stadium
Give Raiders season Ticket holders free tickets to UNLV.
I think that's the best option honestly as they'll make an extra $100 grand a game with cheaper ticket prices to get the rest of those seats filled and make the games feel bigger.
I had unlv season tickets 2 years ago. 6 home games in the lower bowl cost me less than it would to attend one raider game.
The Raiders pay UNLV 5 Million per year to keep Sam Boyd closed.
The Titans made a similar deal with Tennessee State University, but TSU gets paid when they play at their small on campus stadium.
The FCS schools that have domed stadiums are Idaho, Idaho State, NAU, North Dakota, NDSU, South Dakota, and UNI.
Maybe have Randall Cunningham, who is a Rebels alumni to develop on F/B program.
Yes, he and Icky Woods. I was in the seats at the Silver Bowl when those two tore it up! Let Rebel icons help design for sure.
Sam Boyd was absolute trash as no Vegas team should be playing in that outdoor heat as they should never move back there. Sam Boyd was empty too and it looked even worse because it hot and ugly. Moving into beautiful Allegiant Stadium was the right move as their fans don't have to worry about weather. I like it when college teams play in NFL stadiums, but the only bad thing is that most of these schools aren't big schools, so they don't fill those stadiums unless they got a big opponent coming in like Temple had a few years ago when Penn State had a big night game against them. I wish the Minnesota Gophers never built their stadium, so they could've moved into US Bank Stadium as one of the few college teams that would've played in an NFL stadium that would've had it filled up. I think if UNLV was a better team they could get it 60% filled as they need some bigger opponents to come in. If they can still maybe build their own domed stadium with 40,000 capacity that would be great for the program.
Long before the Raiders became involved, the plan was for a much smaller new domed stadium for UNLV and every possible location they looked at were also the same locations the Raiders looked at after they became involved. Sam Boyd Stadium wasn’t even as good as Fertitta Field that belong to Bishop Gorman High School. It was time for something new.
Also the upper tier is blocked off and tickets are not sold for it. Crowds are small but they are not 90% empty. Convenient pictures you used that are all pre game where everyone is out drinking inside the stadium in the club area or other concession areas.
Yeah, bro comes off as a hater tbh. Your summary was spot on.
Assuming that was part of the deal with the municipality contributing funds to build the stadium
I think this is right.
Oh ok
So what upgrade
It was
New Mexico St doesn't have a dome - There's three domes stadiums in the Big Sky Conference = Idaho, Idaho State & Northern Arizona
The UNLV situation is much more nuanced. Sam Boyd is on the far east side of Vegas and nowhere near the Campus, so it never made much sense. Although it's not fancy it wasn't a bad venue. Allegiant is down the street from the Campus. The other issue is the quality of the teams. UNLV football is just really bad, they're not ever competitive. It's fine to lose, it's different when you're constantly getting blown out. Last year they started 4-1 with some close games so they were showing hope. But then got blown out 40 something to 7 in the next couple of games and went on to lose like 6 in a row. No one is going to pay to see that. They can't ever seem to recruit a QB that can throw, I honestly don't know why they don't just use an Option Offense like Army / Navy does. At least that way they wouldn't get completely destroyed every week. It wouldn't be so bad and the probably could at least fill the lower bowl if they just fielded a quality team.
SamBoyd became outdated.They play in a new NFL stadium to get recruits,UNLV is relatively new and they are adding attractions to get better athletes!
Homie. You have some good content, but you don't have to change the tenor of your voice to sound like a stereotypical radio/tv sports guy. You don't sound older than 22, but are trying to talk like a 50 year old host of a rube sports call-in show. Just use your normal talking voice and be you.
There are teams that share the pro stadium. Why spend hundreds of millions to build a NFL palace an then spend more millions for an on campus for the collage team. Pitt and The Steelers share and Temple and the Eagles do to. It makes too much sense for city collages and those close to share. I loved Pitt Stadium when I went there. But it was not in great shape In its place they built The Pete for basketball and other things. Yes we lost the feel an playing on campus. But it was hell walking up "cardiac hill" Now they just stand at the right spots and a shuttle picks them up for a drive less than 5 miles.
I forgot about Pitt and UTSA also fills up the Alamodome which isn't an NFL stadium, but it's a professional facility. Acrisure Stadium in Pittsburgh is great for college football and Miami U does well at Hard Rock Stadium.
As a side note, in addition to UNLV & the Raiders, I see Allegiant Stadium as also being home to an MLS expansion team for two reasons. One is that the roof would allow matches to be played during the afternoon during the summer instead of waiting until the late evening when the temperatures go down to play. The other is that Allegiant is already built for soccer in addition to football & there would be no need to build a soccer specific stadium. Allegiant in its short history has already proven it can be a great soccer stadium as it has hosted a Gold Cup final between the US & Mexico & multiple preseason matches involving European clubs like Man United, Chelsea & Barcelona to name a few. I am sure that an MLS team would easily outdraw UNLV in my view & for those who think an MLS team would not draw well, they could tarp off the seats in the upper deck to make the atmosphere more intimate for soccer.
sorry your not a las vegas person this is the best place they can go bigger when needed
Vegas may get an MLS team with a 24K stadium if the league expands to 32 which is likely. That may a better venue for them until they start winning consistency. Good luck Coach Odom on turning that program around.
@depressedginger @7:22 you predicted Boise State @ UNLV this season, well turns out its for the conference championship lol. BTW, the San Jose State game was packed in the lower ring and it was loud ! Nothing like last couple seasons in there.
Also from what I can tell UNLV is very vested in Allegiant. Like they swap out the whole field, so one field sits outside painted for Raiders, then after UNLV plays they pull the UNLV field out and push the Raiders field in, its crazy.
If the Raiders would of got this stadium done in Oakland im pretty sure Cal Berkeley would of play on the Raiders field too lol😂
Hahahahahaha
Crazy, they move to a way better stadium and they start getting better players and winning kore games. Almost like players like playing in such a nice stadium instead of dying from heat exhaustion at Sam Boyd….
Sam Boyd used to host the Monster jam world finals from 2000 to 2018 or 2019 I think which is why one side of the stadium is open cause the trucks would start from outside the stadium and then speed down the sides down to the other end of the stadium and do a hook and finish with a dirt ramp, and that style was cause las Vegas style j racing cause of it being at Sam boyed. Now the MJ world finals take place where ever they choose due to Sam boyed being vacant of UNLV.
It was 2018 when it ended but in 2019 they host a regular show and an all-star challenge which was a very last time they do Vegas style racing one monster jam was there also fun fact allegiant Stadium can do Vegas style racing, because one side of the edge where you remove the seats there’s a elevated gap. Same way as Glendale State Farm Stadium, however, it’s not wide enough and plus I know the stadium does not want dirt in there track
New Mexico State does not have a dome stadium. Perhaps you were thinking of North Dakota State?
is it too far from the school
I don't know if this is still true, but Tennessee State University played it's home games at Nissan Stadium in Nashville. While not a dome, attendance issues were similar.
Yeah, I believe they do as well as I gotta see if they still play there. UTSA also plays at the Alamodome and it fills pretty nicely.
TSU still plays at Nissan Stadium, but three things have changed: TSU no longer pays to play their games at Nissan Stadium, the Titians pay TSU when they play games at their small on campus stadium (which I am not even sure if it has lights for night games), and they are going to help them either upgrade or build a new on campus stadium. The lowest attendance of the last season for TSU at Nissan Stadium was 2,727 people against non NCAA Lincoln (CA). At best TSU draws around 23,000 at home coming depending on the team they are playing against.
Lol if they actually built that original stadium concept, the Raiders would have moved earlier
the Raiders should buy up Sam Boyd and fix it up so they have a place to have summer practices; like Dallas has a facility in Frisco that they practice at
They already have state of art facilities in the south end of the city.
They don't need to as they already have world class facilities. There's no reason to save Sam Boyd at all, let it die.
Pretty cool incentive to play for the team
the atmosphere is so much better in allegiant than sam boyd
The old Sam Boyd Stadium isn't owned by UNLV either - It's owned by Clark County - First built in 1970 with just two sides, then they added the south end zone seats making it a U shape. Last addition was widening the old concourse & adding the two metal seats at the NW & NE corners
UNLV football is not in a power conference, and they get mediocre recruits. Having them play at Allegiant was supposedly an attraction for new recruits, but even the most talented local high school players would rather play at UCLA, USC, etc. Sam Boyd Stadium is way off campus, and the tickets for UNLV games can still be well over 100 dollars for watching a team that should only cost 20 dollars or less to watch. Plus I think Allegiant still price gouges their parking prices.
i went to Sam Boyd stadium in 08. I didnt think it was that bad
Sam Boyd had a big renovation in 2000
Remodel Silver Bowl. Good facility structure base, views as mentioned, easy to get to and parking galore. Renovate, do landscaping in that vast parking lot (don't get drunk and try to find your car like I did - take a compass), and you're good. I loved games out there.
Its 110 degress outside. Why not play on a state of the art NFL stadium closer to the campus and city.
There have been 2 college football sellouts at Allegiant, BYU vs Arizona, and BYU vs ND.
Are they playing there this year?
Space Jesus vs Catholic Jesus would have been a good game.
@@ReisterJP you mean touchdown Jesus
touchdown Jesus would that be TCU vs Baylor
Because UNLV is going to join the BIG 12!!
UNLV has always been a commuter school since it became a university in the 60s. I grew up in Vegas in the late 70s and 80s and they had one dorm at the time. The University of Nevada is in Reno and is 150 years old next year. UNLV, which was previously Nevada Southern, has always had issues with community engagement, and the NFL and proposed sports pro teams will likely exacerbate that trend. I loved the old football field at Sam Boyd where the yard line graphics were done like the roulette wheel in red and black. Can't do that at Raiders stadium I suspect.
Saints used to play in Tulane stadium (84k seats) They tore that down and now Tulane plays in the Ceasers Superdome
Tulane plays on campus (Yulman Stadium).
Ginger, Every college game in an exhibition game.
Of course nobody is going to be in the stands when you cherry pick your images at 30-60 minutes before game time. The players are still warming up on the field without pads! Bush league journalism.
Interesting, I’m playing college football 25 and was wondering why is unlv in allegiant stadium.
I think if more people knew about this it would help draw people in just to experience the stadium. I can't see a ticket being very expensive and I'd rather see a game than pay for a tour. It is, after all, a modern marvel of engineering and a shrine to one of the all time legends of football. Just win baby!
I'm going to see UNLV at The Big House (TTUN - That Team Up North,) in September. Looking forward to it.
I used to cover WAC/MWC games for stats inc and I was floored Vegas had an outdoor stadium they’d play day games in prior to mid november
What's the context here? Have you ever been to a game at allegiant? They're not empty like you're describing and the reason they play there is obvious...they are trying to become better at recruitment and Sam Boyd was comparable to a JUCO stadium. I guess I'm wondering where you're from, cause it'd be odd to just make a video on why SDSU plays at snapdragon (or previously Qualcomm with the Chargers) but simultaneously lack all nuance and insight you'd gain from actually going to a game or being a local. But that's basically what you did here with UNLV lol
Agreed. Attendance is about 25k, hardly 90% empty. In addition, they couldn't play agai at sam Boyd if they wanted because if the exclusive arrangement they signed with the raiders.
I just moved here I guess Ill have to buy season tickets
Let's Go Rebs!!!
What’s the point of this video?
Pitt and the Steelers share the same stadium.
I’d say 70% is empty though since UNLV football averaged 20k fans last season and the max capacity is 65k. They only sell tickets for the lower bowl which seats 30k I think so it actually doesn’t look all that bad especially when you’re at a game in person.
Since Las Vegas is a transient city, some people don’t live here too long which affects trying to attract the casual fan. Even then the casual fan only cares if you’re good which UNLV football hasn’t been historically.
Generally, Vegas sports fans only care if you win. Since UNLV is the only university in town there is a lot of alums in town but they have only known UNLV football as a losing program which makes it hard for them to buy in to the program either.
Last season they started out (4-1) and people were interested and started to show up. I think there are many UNLV fans in the city but they are hesitant that its the same old UNLV football and don’t want to show up and get their hopes up. I think if they were to truly become good at football for once you’ll see Allegiant stadium fill up for UNLV games.
Are they relocating if they don't get a new stadium?
I live in Henderson and I’m fine with it.
If I were byu and unlv I would schedule a long-term deal. Win-win.
You clearly don't understand the financial psychology of Las Vegas, do you? We're the entertainment capital of the World 🌎 for a reason bud. 😉
I have no problem with that the rebels won't be good enough the fill up the stadium and can happen
Why does Miami play in the NFL Stadium?
Where does the team practice? where are the coaches offices, what is the locker rom (Raiders locker room shared!), `where is the medical and rehab facilities, where is the work out room...... all things that they miss playing in an NFL stadium
They have on campus facilities that is state of art and has two fields to workout throughout the year.
Just wait till the A’s go to Vegas. It will have similar attendance issues.
Why do NFL teams charge so much to use a stadium? I know colleges are raking in the dough but at least charge UNLV at cost. It's only a few games a year with nobody attending.
Then there’s the university of Pittsburgh who shares a stadium with the Steelers and draws pretty well.
UTSA plays in the Alamodome
New Mexico state also doesn't play in a dome. Maybe he mixed them up.
Yeah, they play in the Alamodome and it fills up pretty nicely.
@@PredatorKingdom UTEP sold out its 2022 home opener and had another 5k people watching on the mountains overlooking the stadium. And UTEP sucks. When was the last time UTSA sold out a home game?
They should have footed the money to build an on campus stadium.
There's not room for that, they'd have to destroy the neighborhoods surrounding the school lmao
Reminds me of Temple games at the Eaglest Stadium (LFF). Temple draws very few people and the optics look terrible.
They will never get a new stadium until they change their name, no investor in the world will invest into their teams until then.
Doesnt pitt play at acrisure stadium
UTSA play indoors
Because it's there ! Want to fill it up ?...Get good.
Rebels! Rebels!
Hey dude New Mexico State 🏈 team don't have a Dome 🏈 Stadium
UTSA plays in an empty off campus stadium too. they have not sold out a games in 10 years and they win games vs weak opponents at least.
Yea, I don't think a stadium is in the works either. No public appetite for it.
Actually you're super wrong about UTSA, although it's not a sellout per say every game it fills up pretty nicely to 60-75% capacity and it's still a newer program with a lot of early success. It looks way better than UNLV on gamedays, go back and watch their games, it fills up nicely. I think in due time they may think about getting a new facility, but they don't need it honestly.
I assume the Alamo dome seats about 55k 60% and only hit 75% (when UTEP played there). 60% of 55k is only 32k or so. That is not good! That is almost half empty. UTEP can sell out their stadium, and UTEP is a gatekeeper. 50,000 people haven't packed the alamodome for UTSA since their opening game a decade ago, but nobody UTEP did it in 2022.
@@ReisterJP Over 30k for a new football program is not bad at all, this isn't some blue bloods school that's been around for 100 years or more. UTEP is close to San Antonio, so of course they'd bring in more people. A lot of times attendance is associated with who the opponents are coming in. UTEP looks pretty full on TV most of the time and they had packed houses for their important late season games and conference championship games as well. Just because they're not hitting 50k or more regularly doesn't mean they won't get there eventually. It's still a newer football program in a non-power of 5 conference. If they had Texas, Oklahoma, or LSU coming in, it'd be a lot different.
UTSA are not new that is an excuse. they are over 10 years old and still don't have a single top 25 win and no bowls wins. liberty has only been around since 2018 and have both top 25 wins and a 3-1 bowl record.
Canes fans remember when you think it's bad proof someone has it worse than You....GO NOLES
I respect every player on every team, and I understand the alumni of any school wants that school to win. But. In the new world of college football super-conferences, someone is going to have to raise the question about whether all current teams can and should continue to field a team. Justification will be needed. And I don't know if UNLV will be able to make their case.
This is the most depressing UA-cam channel... Does anyone know who depressed gingers team is??
Guardians and Browns I think
Ohio State
Yet again another simple fix…start winning games.
I see your point but I don’t think the experience is as bad as you’re making it out. And if they’re ever good which they have been and could be it would be cool. There’s hope to be competitive other than the Michigan game where it will prob be ugly in Michigan next wk:
The game against Hawaii last year had the entire lower bowl full and the atmosphere was awesome
Also unlv gave the land to raiders
I liked Sam Boyd much better. It wasn't a bad stadium. You were able to tailgate and the tickets were cheap. Now it's a mess to try and get there and there's nowhere to tailgate. It sucks
Oh it was a bad stadium, you can't lie and say it's anywhere close to the beauty of Allegiant Stadium, plus it's not ruined by the heat like Sam Boyd. It was never a better atomsphere either. Allegiant is more accessible and closer to campus. Sam Boyd was too far out and hard to get to without a car.
Sam Boyd is a horrible place. Plated soccer there it was horrible
New Mexico st....really
If I were UNLV I would've stayed at Sam Boyd and used that money they are spending to rent Allegiant to make revisions to Boyd. In 2023 college football you gotta have your own stadium. Miami playing at Hard Rock doesn't have the same feel (on t.v.) as playing at the Orange Bowl. Even though it's not close to campus, neither in the Rose Bowl for UCLA but the atmosphere there (on t.v) screams college football. For Allegiant Stadium it makes sense because they are basically filling dates and making money off of UNLV.
As a person myself has been to Sam Boyd Stadium before for mainly the monster jam world finals I’m just a little bit or kind of humongous upset that the stadium is now a Bandan but I just wish that the MLS could buy the stadium and re-vindicate it but however they just want to buy a new stadium in Las Vegas possibly close to downtown, which is kind of stupid in my eyes. I just hope there will be a team that will buy Sam boyd stadium. Hopefully they can remodel lies it or something.
It's never stupid to build a stadium near downtown or inside of downtown, that's usually always the best option. Sam Boyd is not a good option at all even if you rebuild it into something. They need to just let that thing die and demolish that piece of crap stadium.
Why would anyone consider adding UNLV to their conference knowing this fun fact that they are probably the biggest school to never have been in the AP top 25 rankings for football. Ever! Doesn't seem possible a school as known as UNLV would be with the other teams like Akron, App St. Arkansas St. Eastern Michigan, Idaho, etc...lol
If nobody attends their games, why even field a team?
They didn't want to be oregon state 2.0, U.N.L.V. cannot afford a new stadium. They can barely afford to pay for a D1 football program.
I thought the Raiders should have played at Sam Boyd Stadium until Allegiant was built instead being a lame duck team in Oakland
a stadium with no shade wouldn't be a good idea to play in
UNLV should have renovated Sam Boyd, with all chair-back seats and maybe a soccer-style awning. And yes, those corner add-ons are terrible.
Saw the Grateful Dead at that stadium 🏟 a bunch of times and had an awesome time🎉❤