Omg, I remember going crazy trying to find where that chanting was coming from as a kid.. Every time it got louder, I assumed I was getting near a room with the men chanting.
+import3dguest All N64 carts had Islamic Moon + Star. That was only removed in GC versions. However, many N64 carts (v1.2) removed the temple chanting.
import3dguest All cartridges have 'chanting' of some kind, but only some early N64 carts have the Islamic chanting, which was replaced by nondescript incomprehensible chanting in later carts and in rereleases.
There are grey cartridges with the red blood, chanting as well as the Gerudo symbols too. The golden pre-order version and the grey cartridges running version 1.0 and 1.1 all have this content.
It was on a CD of voice samples for industrial use. He had no idea what it was, he just thought it sounded cool and wanted to experiment with sampling. He used some samples from the same CD in Super Mario 64.
Man the chanting always got to me as a kid when i played this, it really added to the idea of the Gorons being imprisoned and begging for you to help them
Pedro Burset See i'm not really sure... I got my copy for Christmas way back when the game launched in 1998. I know for a fact that my cartridge was NOT gold. I think those were new versions released a few years later..without the chants... I know cause I have one. I would make sure the manufacturing year is 1995 (Or whatever the M with the circle around it means) and you might have a good shot at getting one with the original chants. Also make sure it's not gold.
Pedro Burset hrmmm im guessing some were maybe gold... but damn that has to be rare to find a gold cartridge with the original track in it. I have one of the gold ones... played through it as well but it doesn't have the chants... at least I don't think it does lol... im gonna have to bust out the old N64 again and check it out.
Yeah I had the gold cartridge edition of OOT. This was the music. Didn’t find out until recently that they changed it. This was even more creepy than the Forest Temple.
I had no idea this was a thing. The Fire Temple music I'm used to was always creepy to me but this is way more creepy than that. Makes me think that the prisoner Gorons are praying to their god to help them or something. Damn it's so spooky.
True and the manner that the Gorons are curled up is like the way Muslims prostrate so odds are they are praying to their God or Gods for Link to save them from being devoured
I think they were trying to find a chant that fitted the culture and in many ways the gorons have a very middle Eastern culture. So they sourced some sound from a Muslim prayer and used it as a chant. The funny thing is The chant isn't actually from a prayer but it's a creed you say when converting to islam and it's also weird why they included star and moon symbols and don't get me wrong I'm not offended or anything I'm just confused as the moon and star symbol have nothing to do with the story, lore or game. My best guess is that the creater really liked the culture and probably thought it suited the old time this game is set in.
Honestly I think that's partially what Nintendo was going for. I believe they were trying to transmit what Goron culture had become since Link had disappeared, and because he had disappeared, how dire the needs of the Goron's were at the time.
Yeah, the Gorons fear Volvagia more than anything so the use of chanting actually makes sense. They're praying to anyone to save them from a terrifying fate
It's prohibited in islam to mix an Islamic verse from the quran with music, although this is only the shahada, اشهد ال لا الله which in English means I bear witness there is no god but Allah. It falls in a weird grey area, But Saudi Arabia basically took action, so this version of the fire temple theme has been removed.
@@IcuTapIcu Saudi Arabia didnt do anything. Nintendo has a strict non religion policy and back in the day it was even stricter. Some symbols that could be confused for christian cross or for symbols from the inquisition were also banned/changed in old zelda games. Nintendo also banned the manji symbol in their games.
***** Well it really wasnt them, they didnt actually cause them to remove it, nintendo removed it on their own, look up a vid on it, they changed it to prevent problems, maybe some people did but they had already taken care of it.
I have this version and as a kid, it helped immerse me more. it helped it feel like a very spiritual place. I liked it; most of the dungeons are called "Temples" so it made sense
that's fair, but you gotta remember this is real people's faith being used as scary atmospheric BGM here. it'd be pretty disrespectful if they had done it on purpose.
@@dummyyogurt5375 i'm not saying this to mean they should've kept it this way. im glad they changed it. i was just recounting my experiences and thought process hearing it as a kid.
Ex girlfriend "lost" my cart that included this after we broke up. Still mad to this day knowing she's probably got it hidden somewhere. Can't imagine the fire temple without it.
Then you should do what every rational ex boyfriend should do…stalk her in the middle of the night with this playing in the background until she caves in and gives it back to you.
So a lot of misinformation about this versions removal is apparent so I wanna make this post to clear some things up. This version was in 1.0 cartridges an 1.1 cartridges of the game. If you want to know what version you have look at the back of your cartridge. I believe just numbers means it's a 1.0 build. Numbers and a single letter mean 1.1 and numbers and two letters means 1.2 if you want to go into specifics 1.0 and 1.1 builds of the game feature various differences from the 1.2 build of the game. This and other imagery is one of them. In 1.2 builds of the game the crescent moon and star on the mirror shield was changed as the blocks wouldn't be changed until the gamecube rerelease, a preorder bonus for Wind Waker. (The 3ds remake also uses the rereleased version). Now the story behind this is simple. The music director wanted chanting for the song and found the sample on a cd (can't remember the exact name atm) and without knowing it was a muslim chant used it, before the games release it was realized it was a religious chant and changed for 1.2 builds, however because sales figures don't lie, 1.0 and 1.1 builds were tossed out as well for more marketing leading to some kids experiencing this music and some with the changed music. The biggest clearance that needs to be put to rest is the theory that it was removed due to backlash, this is not true. It's worth noting that this same sample was used in a racing game two months prior to OOT's release and no one said anything about it then. It was out of fear of backlash and Nintendo's strict no religion policy, this is why the crescent moon and star were removed as well due to them being apart of religious figures. Hope this information helps since a lot of misinformation goes around about this stuff.
@@KingKhan-xw7vq No, they were intentional designs of the blocks and shield. It wasn't until much later in development that they realized it was a religious figure. Same with the chanting, other differences include Ganondorfs blood being Red instead of Green. These changes were made to fit with Nintendos policies. But again, cause sales don't lie they threw out 1.0/1.1 copies of the game although 1.2 is the most common to find. You can still download a rom of the 1.0 version to experience the initial release since 1.0 was the first to be let out on shelves, but not for long.
I'm from Afghanistan, but i envoyed playing Zelda, don't be worry about this song, Japanese dont have notions of discrimination about Muslims people when they have create the game. Peace.
in middle eastern culture it was believed that Chants were used to summon the djinn, so maybe you were scared into thinking you were going to fight a djinn at the end of the temple LOL
@@yalkn2073 you must be atheist then. Seems perfectly normal to me. Only weird thing for me is the game is rated E. Should probably be T with the original versions
As a boy of 10 who was always paranoid, I played my Mom's old version of the game and it has this chanting. I remember arriving at this temple late into the night while playing. Afterwards I sat with my eyes wide open, terrified, checking every little noise, and movement. I or my family had no idea of its religious background (and I hope I didn't offend anyone), but now that I listen to it again, it really is kind of awesome.
I'm a muslim, I find this cool, I never had the original release Zelda ocarina of time, so missed this praising of Allah being played in the background . In fact don't think anyone complained , I think Nintendo like to keep games simple without religion, thus they removed the cross from links shield from the 80s Zelda game etc .
I always liked the music that it plays while you're fighting King Dodongo and Volvagia. Back when I was a kid I always kept my game paused with the music playing for a long time lol.
They are saying (La Ilah Ela Allah - لا إلاه إلا الله) Which means "No God but Allah". and then It says (Besmela Al Rahman Al Raheeem Allah Akbar - بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم الله أكبر) Which means "In the name of the most gracious and merciful, Allah is the greatest". In Islam, your destiny is to be in Hell of Fire if you did very bad deeds in your life. You say these phrases to ask for Forgivness from Allah. I believe this soundtrack is very suitable with the Fire Temple. These men screaming the Islamic Enchants asking good for forgivness from Allah which is punishing them by letting them burn in hell. I believe these men joined Ganondorf's attack on Hyrule when they were alive and died and now they are facing their judgment and asking for forgiveness which gives the fire temple a huge twist and meaning.
Thats a cool interpretation. I understand why they changed it, but i honestly like when games take inspiration from real world mythologies and languages to add depth
The first chanting seems more like the sample being chopped and remixed, as for the second part it is Bismillahi Ar-Rahman Ar Raheem and the beginning of Surat Al Ikhlass, (Qulhu Allah)
The game doesn't imply that though. Ganondorf has revived the Dragon and the Gorons resisted him and he trapped them and plans to feed them to the dragon to show the rest of the world what will/can happen to them if they also try resisting. I like this part of the game because not only are you saving the Gorons, one by one, but you're also obtaining a legendary hammer to defeat a legendary ancient dragon and really foil Ganondorfs plan of using said Dragon to rule with an iron fist. As a Christian, I like the chanting. Makes me think the Gorons are Muslim and praying lol. Adds another layer to this dire dark dungeon/situation.
My brother's friend left his pre-ordered Nintendo 64 gold cartridge copy of this game at our house and I distinctly remember this being the theme and not even realizing it was edited when this game came out on the GameCube. Awesome memories playing this game and watching my older brother play it too!!!
So glad everyone is in agreement this song is much more mysterious, haunting, and beautiful with the chanting. I played OOT on the 3DS and that Fire Temple song just wasn't the same.
i own this version and always heard this song, i always thought there was monks in the temple somewhere but now that i heard about it on pop fiction from Gametrailers, its just very eerie but so happy to have the special version :)
My older brother had this game with the original music too. Even in the late 90s, People weren’t afraid to put on music like this for the atmosphere and dark tones.
I'm a Muslim and I understand the problems of including religious chants and symbols in video games. And the verses in this audio are very significant verses in Islam so some people might not have liked it. But nonetheless I think this is really cool. And as a Zelda fan myself I would've probably enjoyed this more than the actual fire temple music. Would've been really cool to hear something you know in your favorite video game. Edit: If it's the Gorons praying then I guess this makes them canonically Muslims, lol 😅
This song was amazing. First time playing the game I thought it was the Gorons crying for help. Then after I beat the temple if thought it was volvagia then later decided it sounds nothing like it.Then I decided its the chants of the those whose souls remain in the temple thanks to the wicked that is Volvagia.
Well the chants are actually Muslim prayer that they accidently sourced. Then men your hearing in the background are supposed to be Muslim men saying the creed to convert to sualma apparently. They took this out in later versions as nintendo has a policy of showing no religion or politics in games
as a muslim i don't agree, mixing religious words with a game is disrespectful, i understand that you find it atmospheric with the atmosphere of this temple but when you are muslim and you hear that, we have the impression that we are laughing at our religion
@@kenza6131 "mixing religious words with a game is disrespectful" Well _I_ disagree. I can see how you'd find it disrespectful, but I don't see how it is. If I remember correctly it's just some dude saying the usual "god is great" prayer so would it really be any different then if they used any other religious prayer? Like some dude saying "Bless us heavenly father, for we recognize your greatness as our lord. In Jesus' holy name I pray, amen." Would it still be disrespectful if they used _that_ prayer? Or is it only disrespectful because they used a prayer from _your_ religion? The only difference I see between the two prayers is the second wouldn't be as cool and atmospheric to the temple unless it was said in a melodic chant.. "When you are Muslim and you hear that, we have the impression that we are laughing at our religion" So.. when you hear religious Muslim chants in a video game soundtrack, you get the impression that you are laughing at your religion? Or did you mean "We have the impression that You are laughing at our religion" because if so then I'm sorry you feel that way. But I assure you we're not. No one is laughing at hearing your religions prayer in a video game or real life, except for, probably, racists.
@@kenza6131 do you think they would have given Christians the same courtesy? It's amazing that the world wars against my faith, but caters to every other religion so that they aren't viewed as intolerant...
I knew it, people pretend Muslims are offended while they are not. There is likely some of ou who got offended but it's a minority. It's weird, there is no problem to spam video games with Christianic references, prays, quotes or songs. As Christian, I just don't care and even, I think it's very interesting. But I'm sure there is some Christians who don't like religious references too. However, it's not big deal, they keep spamming Christianic stuff and keep censoring Muslim stuff. Just why ? Pfff, that world...
The probable reason why it was removed is because of the line that translates to "There is no God but Allah", which not only steps over Nintendo's policy of promoting religions, but is a statement intolerant of anything that isn't Islam. Also there's supposed to be no sound during the prayer.
@@ooshtoosht1695 I don't know if this comment is the actual translation, but the song's Arabic chants do have meaning, & can be translated into English. The original sample that Nintendo used a portion of can VERY clearly be heard saying Allah.
What intrigues me more is the identity of the one singing those chants. Who is he, is he still alive, when was it recorded & does/did he know that his voice has forever been immortalized into a CD pack filled with random sounds & through that (for a while) into the game itself. And the fact that audio is compressed just gives it that kind of eerie but interestingly comforting feeling? Who knows.
The identity of the person chanting we'll probably never know, other than they were a Muslim that probably allowed himself to be recorded for a public sound library that could be used in other mediums. (unless they were somehow unaware they were being recorded) As for when, it must have been around the mid-90s, as that's when the public sound library this was taken from was released. I'd have to look up its name again, in case there are any credits there
The Islamic chant heard in the original Fire Temple theme from The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (previous to the revision), was first used in the music track 'Cairo Cruis'n' for the Egypt race track in the Nintendo 64 version of Cruis'n World. The chant comes from a sound library collection called "Voice Spectral - Volume 1" released by 'Best Service'.
if anyone is wondering what is said, it's in arabic and there are 3 verses : "and grace is to God (Allah)" repeated, then "and his is judgement" as in to judge who goes to hell (link lol), and finally "in the name of god (allah) the most merciful"
Well I'm not one to disrespect someone's religion, but damn this sounds cool. It really fits the temple's aesthetic. Games should make more music like this; but use chanting in another language, of course.
i foudn out that nintendo 64's are very tough consoles as i dropped my old fat screen on it when i was a kid and it didnt do any damage lol just picked up the tv and carried on playing it :D why cant electronics be as tough as the N'64 XD
+ռǟʀʊȶօ - ӄʊռ I think many people say Allah to purposefully distance Islam from Christianity. Allah sounds "foreign and scary". Jews, Christians and Muslims all worship the same god.
Contrary to popular belief, there was no controversy that caused this song to be changed. It was altered due to violating Nintendo’s policy of not including religious symbols of any kind in their games. Most likely unbeknownst to Koji Kondo when composing this, but the chanting in the song contains Islamic prayer. Early Zelda games depicted Link using a shield with a Christian cross on it, which they also stopped using.
I still have the original and play this when I can. My first wife, who is a Native American, said it spooked her out because it sounded to her like it was a dark powwow chant. Nevertheless, it’s one of the best games of all time, right next to Twilight Princess.
I didnt know this was changed. I bought the game used in 1999 when i was 15 and never knew there was an issue with it. It fit so perfectly with the temple. Sucks that Nintendo changed it.
@Loai Alghamdi He does not understand the Muslim faith. The better question is, why should you consider it as music to enjoy. Its just a prayer. Prayer can be used in anything. Its up to you whether to enjoy it as music or perceive it as a prayer.
Nintendo Music does not have this version and the version that they have is only 40 seconds long.... Guys pray that Nintendo doesn't take this down! :(
I played this game when it came out and I remember this giving me chills when I was a kid and hated going to the fire temple, but then I played it later on GameCube and I thought I remembered the dungeon wrong, but I'm glad that it actually did exist
This is why the Fire Temple is my all time favorite. It sets the mood incredibly well, especially due to the circumstances. You alone are in the fiery depths of the Fire Temple surrounded by nothing but molten death, trying to save the remaining Goron's who face extinction threatened to be fed to the ancient dragon while that said dragon is capable of escaping into Hyrule to burn it into a wasteland leaving naught left, all while trying to hurry to your "sworn brother" who faces Volvagia alone to buy you time to save his people. The chants are a nice touch as you can think of the Goron's either praying to their God's in their final hour, or that they are trying to calm the inferno demon in its fit of rage before literally all hell breaks loose onto Hyrule. Or maybe the chants are just remnants of the gods that once use to reside withing the sacred temple, now their words just echoing throughout the once holy grounds. Whatever Nintendo's intentions may be for it, you can't deny it suits the Fire Temple's atmosphere perfectly. I wish I still had my gold cartridge... Had to download an emulator to play through it just how it was originally intended to be.
OoT will ALWAYS be the darkest game to me because of how original it was even with its MUSIC! I remember that this music along with the Shadow Temples music would give me this ominous, haunting sensation. It would SELL you the story and made me believe the history each temple had gone through idk how to explain it but I'd actually wonder thru the temples and look at the paintings, designs and anything that would help me know exactly what went on or happened in those places. Newer games don't have these concepts. The genuine creepy factor.
When I was younger the only version of the game we had was the wii virtual console and 3ds version, so I never actually heard the chanting. I played the game again on a rom recently, but accidentally downloaded version 1.2 instead of 1.0 like I wanted and didn’t realize until way too late. I had heard about the chanting and I guess I never looked it up because a couple days ago during my first rando, I heard the chanting and it caught me off guard for a second, but it was super cool to finally hear it.
Thank you for uploading this :D I love both versions of the song, I had the fixed version, without the chants, however, I remember the original gerudo logo in the game, and not the fixed one... Also, I think the fixed song of the fire temple fits better, because it feels heavier and powerful, more relatable to gorons imo; with the chants it sounds like too realistic-humanized compared to other temple songs.
This is so crazy, I never knew there were other versions until today. I had one of the gold cartridges, and I got it as soon as it came out so I guess I had the first version. Stumbled across another video on UA-cam about how the chanting was removed in the Fire Temple and didn't even know what they were talking about. Now that I've heard both it just sounds stupid without it. It's like the chant is still there but they've smoothed over the words.
Mashaallah im glad you enjoy listening to it. Ill translate for you, and explain the context. Bismillah al rahman al raheem, this starts every page in the quran. It means, in the name of god, the most merciful, the most compasionat We say this before doing good deeds and before eating.
as a kid me and brother always tought this was the imprisoned gorons praying to their gods. I loved this piece as a kid it felt intriguing and misterious. Also the bolero fire was the best warp song imo. Nostalgia overflowing!
@@bigdawg12zSome have said that it's the call to prayer, but it isn't because it doesn't even start off the same way. Some have said, and I'm of this opinion as well, that the chanting says three different things. The first time it comes in, it sounds like Sal Allahu alaihi wa alik, which, to my understanding means, "May the honor and blessings of God be upon him," referring to the prophet Muhammad, ending with la ilaha ill Allah, meaning there is no god but God. After this, it repeats again for the second round, but the third time, as it fades out and another voice comes in, the new voice clearly says "Bismillah ir Rahman ir Rahim" which means "In the name of God, the Most Compassionate, the Most Merciful" followed by "Allahu Akbar" meaning God is the Greatest, and this is repeated twice before ending it off with one more la ilaha ill Allah as the chants finish. I've seen some say that part of the Qur'an is said in this chant. It technically isn't something that Muslims even chant, they're phrases in Islam that were thrown together, but don't have any correlation to one another. That's just what I heard though, since it's so distorted, it's hard to say for sure.
I remember playing this when I was little and my brother and I always found this temple music creepy. But it was also my favorite music of all the temples in the game.
This always sounded strange because of how the chanting sound effects were played over each other, with a deep sound in the background. But still a classic song.
I just thought this was neat to share and most people already know but, this exact sample for the chanting was also used in a few other games. I noticed this at first with Monster Hunter, where in the second generation games the jungle battle theme had this exact chanting partway into the song and I ended up going down the rabbit hole of video game audio sampling and open source audio recordings.
Back in 2015 I used to listen to this to work at spitfire in Ashburn. How the years have passed. I will remember deployment in Syria/ Kuwait 2017/2018. God bless, I have struggles now and then. Thanks.
The chanting is what made this temple stick in my memory. Also explains why it felt off when replaying recently. Music was missing a key element I was expecting.
I was lucky to get one of those golden cartridges with all those features that were removed after. After 25 years I thought it would be impossible, because that version wasn't officially released here in Mexico.
For those curious, the Islamic chanting is from an audio library called "Voice Spectral: Volume 1". Koji Kondo sampled "Volks #2", didn't know it was of Muslim scripture, and unintentionally took it out of context for the track. He was later notified about it, and rushed together an edited version that replaces the chanting with a MIDI choir. This version would be used in subsequent revisions of Ocarina of Time, as well as the two remakes. Yeah. Oof.
"Oof" my ass. Muslims are the only religious group who would take offense to this sort of thing. If Kondo had instead used some obscure sample of Pentecostal chanting, I doubt anyone would have had an issue. I respect people's right to their religious beliefs, but let's not pretend Muslims aren't one of the most censorious and easily offended religions out there. A lot of them unironically believe that violence and even death are an appropriate response to besmirching Muhammad, after all.
as a kid this chant always threw me off the game, mostly because my brain automatically dedicated processing power into deciphering what on earth was being said.
From what I can hear the chant says Sal Allahu alaihi wa alik at the very beginning which means, May the honor and blessings of Allah (God) be upon him, referring to the prophet Muhammad, followed by la ilaha ill Allah (There is no god other than Allah) then says Bismillah ir Rahman ir Rahim (In the Name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful) and Allahu akbar (God is the Greatest) in that order and finishes it with another la ilaha ill Allah. Hope this helps inshallah (God willing) Peace. :)
***** having seen videos of the meaning and the explanations here made me like the song even more. but i get the point. ***** being from another culture and having a set of beliefs not very far from yours(catholic-based but mixed in with my own other beliefs) makes me realize god is everywhere and in each of us, even in our actions and creations. and i believe that a being so omniscient to be everyone of us at the same time does not care about that. enjoy or not, that is up to humans. but again. i get the point.
Hearing this I always envision the Fire Temple in the its oppressed condition. Taint and corruption rampant, poisoning the Temple's true purpose, it's sanctity weakened and fading. And then come the chanting voices, the ancient spirits of the Temple reaching out for aid, calling for a savior to release them from their bondage and restore peace and order to their ancient home.
I never really got creeped out by the chanting as when i was a kid i just related it to the chanting in the forest temple, which didn't creep me out but intrigued me. It was a new and funny sound. Not to mention i was having too much fun to pay attention. point aside i really do wished they kept it in the game, it really makes it sound more authentic as it is called Fire TEMPLE
Omg, I remember going crazy trying to find where that chanting was coming from as a kid.. Every time it got louder, I assumed I was getting near a room with the men chanting.
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That's kinda cute lol
Thats amazing observation
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My game version has this and the islamic symbols on some of the cubes. I didn't even realize I had a semi-rare version of the game until recently.
+import3dguest All N64 carts had Islamic Moon + Star. That was only removed in GC versions. However, many N64 carts (v1.2) removed the temple chanting.
***** Oh ok. Mine does have the temple chanting though.
import3dguest All cartridges have 'chanting' of some kind, but only some early N64 carts have the Islamic chanting, which was replaced by nondescript incomprehensible chanting in later carts and in rereleases.
+import3dguest Same, but i got to know it right now
My original n64 cartridge had this as well chanting and the crescent moon symbol
I like the chant. It gave the temple an even darker and ominous atmosphere.
pissedoffgamer it’s from Islamic prayer so it got removed
I think it’s creepy.
For some reason it felt a bit lighter in terms of tone.
@@Amedo-e1u yeah, the prayer is islamic, but does it really do anyone any harm?
I mean it’s most definitely not going to convert anyone to islam 🤣
And makes the music feel different from the Shadows temple
this is also the version where ganondorf vomits blood opposed to the green vomit in the grey version.
There are grey cartridges with the red blood, chanting as well as the Gerudo symbols too. The golden pre-order version and the grey cartridges running version 1.0 and 1.1 all have this content.
+AnEvilVegetable I have the European version grey it doesn't have the chanting bit it has the symbols and blood
***** so I presume it's 1.1
Mine is a gold copy and I have the worst time getting into the holes in the graveyard
So.. if the 3ds version has green vomit
*Then why there no chanting in fire temple*
I'm sure some people agree with me on this but I actually really like this version of the fire temple
MrWrigh I do too
me too
Agreed this version is so much better and creepy.
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I played this for a young Arabic kid I knew and he understood the "lyrics". Amazing Koji ever went this direction with sound design.
How amazing using prayer in a song truly amazing I Know it was an accident
It was on a CD of voice samples for industrial use. He had no idea what it was, he just thought it sounded cool and wanted to experiment with sampling. He used some samples from the same CD in Super Mario 64.
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LOL yea, u think a Japanese guy gave a shit what they were chanting about? it just sounds ominous and so he chose it
Man the chanting always got to me as a kid when i played this, it really added to the idea of the Gorons being imprisoned and begging for you to help them
Ocarina of Time and Majora Mask are true masterpieces
YEP YEP they are
They are philosophical masterpieces.
OOT seems to be more focused around abrahamic theology
MM has more to do with Greek Philosophy, specially Plato
OOT is my all time favourite and i have only played half if that of majoras mask, it just takes way too long to find something to do 🙄
They have some moments but no even close to being a masterpiece.Especally majora mask
@@gdassspar6narFrom your comment I honestly get the vibe that you've never played the games before. I may be wrong though
My original game had this version...actually freaked me out a bit as a kid back in the day.
It's still kinda creepy at night.
Pedro Burset See i'm not really sure... I got my copy for Christmas way back when the game launched in 1998. I know for a fact that my cartridge was NOT gold. I think those were new versions released a few years later..without the chants... I know cause I have one. I would make sure the manufacturing year is 1995 (Or whatever the M with the circle around it means) and you might have a good shot at getting one with the original chants. Also make sure it's not gold.
Pedro Burset hrmmm im guessing some were maybe gold... but damn that has to be rare to find a gold cartridge with the original track in it. I have one of the gold ones... played through it as well but it doesn't have the chants... at least I don't think it does lol... im gonna have to bust out the old N64 again and check it out.
I do too
Yeah I had the gold cartridge edition of OOT. This was the music. Didn’t find out until recently that they changed it. This was even more creepy than the Forest Temple.
I had no idea this was a thing. The Fire Temple music I'm used to was always creepy to me but this is way more creepy than that. Makes me think that the prisoner Gorons are praying to their god to help them or something. Damn it's so spooky.
Yeah, its people who want to be set free from suffering in this hell like place. Its so creepy
I always thought it was the Gorons chanting, makes it even creepier.
True and the manner that the Gorons are curled up is like the way Muslims prostrate so odds are they are praying to their God or Gods for Link to save them from being devoured
I found this theme creepy because I always thought it was ganondorfs servants chanting and about to sacrifice the gorons to Volvagia.
I think they were trying to find a chant that fitted the culture and in many ways the gorons have a very middle Eastern culture. So they sourced some sound from a Muslim prayer and used it as a chant. The funny thing is The chant isn't actually from a prayer but it's a creed you say when converting to islam and it's also weird why they included star and moon symbols and don't get me wrong I'm not offended or anything I'm just confused as the moon and star symbol have nothing to do with the story, lore or game. My best guess is that the creater really liked the culture and probably thought it suited the old time this game is set in.
its funny how i use to think the chanting was the crying of the Gorons trapped in the Fire Temple
Honestly I think that's partially what Nintendo was going for. I believe they were trying to transmit what Goron culture had become since Link had disappeared, and because he had disappeared, how dire the needs of the Goron's were at the time.
Yeah, the Gorons fear Volvagia more than anything so the use of chanting actually makes sense. They're praying to anyone to save them from a terrifying fate
Alexia that's very true that why there so scared to even speak to you when you talk to them because they think you're VOLVAGIA!!!!!
@@Lilyonsan that's what I thought too! It kinda sounds like part of the chant is "Volvagia."
Same.
I understand why they changed it, but I can't help but admire the mystical atmosphere this chant creates.
they changed it for all the wrong reasons.
It's prohibited in islam to mix an Islamic verse from the quran with music, although this is only the shahada, اشهد ال لا الله which in English means I bear witness there is no god but Allah. It
falls in a weird grey area, But Saudi Arabia basically took action, so this version of the fire temple theme has been removed.
@@IcuTapIcu Thanks for the information!
@@IcuTapIcu Mmm, maybe in a hardcore, reactionary version of Islam. Which, adherents of such can go fuck themselves.
@@IcuTapIcu Saudi Arabia didnt do anything. Nintendo has a strict non religion policy and back in the day it was even stricter.
Some symbols that could be confused for christian cross or for symbols from the inquisition were also banned/changed in old zelda games.
Nintendo also banned the manji symbol in their games.
I actually find the chanting and music beautiful and intriguing..
+gpl992 It's soothing in a way. Chanting is always like that for me though, I always find Vocal stuff very soothing, not singing but stuff like this.
+gpl992 i think its creepy
***** ^INTELLIGENCE
***** Well it really wasnt them, they didnt actually cause them to remove it, nintendo removed it on their own, look up a vid on it, they changed it to prevent problems, maybe some people did but they had already taken care of it.
+Langilol Fucking idiotic UA-cam commenters that continue to spread misinformation should be revoked freedom of speech.
I have this version and as a kid, it helped immerse me more. it helped it feel like a very spiritual place. I liked it; most of the dungeons are called "Temples" so it made sense
Exactly!!
Temples are very Spiritual places it makes sense to hear Chanting.
that's fair, but you gotta remember this is real people's faith being used as scary atmospheric BGM here. it'd be pretty disrespectful if they had done it on purpose.
@@dummyyogurt5375 i'm not saying this to mean they should've kept it this way. im glad they changed it. i was just recounting my experiences and thought process hearing it as a kid.
@@linkstorm6 That's perfectly fair, I was just hijacking your comment to add onto it.
I played the game with this original music way back when. I loved it so much! The chanting was so powerful and haunting
Pienso exactamente lo mismo 👍
I love the subtext of the chanting that it’s all the Gorons praying you set them free.
Or praying they aren't eating. It is seriously such a great thing to think about and makes the game way more immersive.
@@intergalacticolive That too man it’s terrifying when you really think of this level
Ex girlfriend "lost" my cart that included this after we broke up. Still mad to this day knowing she's probably got it hidden somewhere. Can't imagine the fire temple without it.
Maybe that's why she is an ex-girlfriend. Fire temple with the original theme is the best.
I actually still have my original grey N64 cartridge with the original fire temple theme. They are extraordinarily rare these days.
Then you should do what every rational ex boyfriend should do…stalk her in the middle of the night with this playing in the background until she caves in and gives it back to you.
So a lot of misinformation about this versions removal is apparent so I wanna make this post to clear some things up.
This version was in 1.0 cartridges an 1.1 cartridges of the game. If you want to know what version you have look at the back of your cartridge. I believe just numbers means it's a 1.0 build. Numbers and a single letter mean 1.1 and numbers and two letters means 1.2 if you want to go into specifics 1.0 and 1.1 builds of the game feature various differences from the 1.2 build of the game. This and other imagery is one of them. In 1.2 builds of the game the crescent moon and star on the mirror shield was changed as the blocks wouldn't be changed until the gamecube rerelease, a preorder bonus for Wind Waker. (The 3ds remake also uses the rereleased version).
Now the story behind this is simple. The music director wanted chanting for the song and found the sample on a cd (can't remember the exact name atm) and without knowing it was a muslim chant used it, before the games release it was realized it was a religious chant and changed for 1.2 builds, however because sales figures don't lie, 1.0 and 1.1 builds were tossed out as well for more marketing leading to some kids experiencing this music and some with the changed music.
The biggest clearance that needs to be put to rest is the theory that it was removed due to backlash, this is not true. It's worth noting that this same sample was used in a racing game two months prior to OOT's release and no one said anything about it then. It was out of fear of backlash and Nintendo's strict no religion policy, this is why the crescent moon and star were removed as well due to them being apart of religious figures.
Hope this information helps since a lot of misinformation goes around about this stuff.
Edit: Meant Islamic chanting not Muslim.
@@unironiccloudshrug340 was the crescent and moon accidentall?
@@KingKhan-xw7vq No, they were intentional designs of the blocks and shield. It wasn't until much later in development that they realized it was a religious figure. Same with the chanting, other differences include Ganondorfs blood being Red instead of Green. These changes were made to fit with Nintendos policies. But again, cause sales don't lie they threw out 1.0/1.1 copies of the game although 1.2 is the most common to find. You can still download a rom of the 1.0 version to experience the initial release since 1.0 was the first to be let out on shelves, but not for long.
It's from Voice Spectral Vol. 1, Track 76
@@macaco_amigo Thank you for the clarification
Besides the chant, what makes it creepier is how the music fades as the chant comes in.
Exactly. You get it. 👍👍👍
I'm from Afghanistan, but i envoyed playing Zelda, don't be worry about this song, Japanese dont have notions of discrimination about Muslims people when they have create the game.
Peace.
I juste like Yu-gi-oh ;)
hbk711x Bandit Keith is canadian
No, he's Australian
Peace be with you!
Thanks Stephen S. :3
hearing this in a hell-like stage like the fire temple sets the tone for a scary experience
in middle eastern culture it was believed that Chants were used to summon the djinn, so maybe you were scared into thinking you were going to fight a djinn at the end of the temple LOL
@@Dumpstermuffin1 Not these chants. This is prayer, and its weird that its in here
@@yalkn2073 what's weird about it? If I was a goron in that situation you'd bet your ass I'm praying to God
@@alanm6o9 Hearing irl chants in this context is odd. Especially considering these chants are about God being great and stuff.
@@yalkn2073 you must be atheist then. Seems perfectly normal to me. Only weird thing for me is the game is rated E. Should probably be T with the original versions
As a boy of 10 who was always paranoid, I played my Mom's old version of the game and it has this chanting. I remember arriving at this temple late into the night while playing. Afterwards I sat with my eyes wide open, terrified, checking every little noise, and movement. I or my family had no idea of its religious background (and I hope I didn't offend anyone), but now that I listen to it again, it really is kind of awesome.
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Koji Kondo didn’t have any idea either.
If it did, it's impossible that it influenced its removal as the last build on N64 was made before its first release in Japan.
While playing the game I imagined the Gorons saying these chants as they begged the gods for mercy. It was a very sad visual. :(
I'm a muslim, I find this cool, I never had the original release Zelda ocarina of time, so missed this praising of Allah being played in the background .
In fact don't think anyone complained , I think Nintendo like to keep games simple without religion, thus they removed the cross from links shield from the 80s Zelda game etc .
I remember my older brother leaving the game paused and hearing this nonstop throughout the day
I used to play this music to sleep when it first came out 😂
I always liked the music that it plays while you're fighting King Dodongo and Volvagia. Back when I was a kid I always kept my game paused with the music playing for a long time lol.
They are saying (La Ilah Ela Allah - لا إلاه إلا الله) Which means "No God but Allah". and then It says (Besmela Al Rahman Al Raheeem Allah Akbar - بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم الله أكبر) Which means "In the name of the most gracious and merciful, Allah is the greatest". In Islam, your destiny is to be in Hell of Fire if you did very bad deeds in your life. You say these phrases to ask for Forgivness from Allah. I believe this soundtrack is very suitable with the Fire Temple. These men screaming the Islamic Enchants asking good for forgivness from Allah which is punishing them by letting them burn in hell. I believe these men joined Ganondorf's attack on Hyrule when they were alive and died and now they are facing their judgment and asking for forgiveness which gives the fire temple a huge twist and meaning.
Thats a cool interpretation. I understand why they changed it, but i honestly like when games take inspiration from real world mythologies and languages to add depth
The first chanting seems more like the sample being chopped and remixed, as for the second part it is Bismillahi Ar-Rahman Ar Raheem and the beginning of Surat Al Ikhlass, (Qulhu Allah)
The fire temple is my favorite, and the fuckin’ best temple in OOT.❤
That’s so cool
The game doesn't imply that though. Ganondorf has revived the Dragon and the Gorons resisted him and he trapped them and plans to feed them to the dragon to show the rest of the world what will/can happen to them if they also try resisting.
I like this part of the game because not only are you saving the Gorons, one by one, but you're also obtaining a legendary hammer to defeat a legendary ancient dragon and really foil Ganondorfs plan of using said Dragon to rule with an iron fist.
As a Christian, I like the chanting. Makes me think the Gorons are Muslim and praying lol. Adds another layer to this dire dark dungeon/situation.
My brother's friend left his pre-ordered Nintendo 64 gold cartridge copy of this game at our house and I distinctly remember this being the theme and not even realizing it was edited when this game came out on the GameCube. Awesome memories playing this game and watching my older brother play it too!!!
The first time I played the game, I used an emulator on my phone. I'm glad that this was the version that I got to listen. It's so much better!
So glad everyone is in agreement this song is much more mysterious, haunting, and beautiful with the chanting. I played OOT on the 3DS and that Fire Temple song just wasn't the same.
I keep getting goosebumps hearing "Bismillah" and Surah Ikhlas as the chanting in the music, it's beautiful
if youre muslim, you should be offended instead that the quran is being implemented into musi which, im not sure if youre aware of, is haraam.
Absolutely the superior version.
the chant is so legendary i’m sorry. totally one of the best memories of the fire temple. so bone chilling.
I’ve always interpreted it was in the dragon’s room. Now I wonder who this guy is in real life!
i own this version and always heard this song, i always thought there was monks in the temple somewhere
but now that i heard about it on pop fiction from Gametrailers, its just very eerie but so happy to have the special version :)
My older brother had this game with the original music too. Even in the late 90s, People weren’t afraid to put on music like this for the atmosphere and dark tones.
With the chants it adds an extra flavor to the song that really gives it a griddy mood and I love it as a musical person
Fuck, and they said the SHADOW temple's music was brick shittingly scary
YEA XDD
Shadow temple wasn't meant to be scary lol. You kids are pathetic with these " shadow temple isn't scary" comments lol
it was if you grew up on the other version without islamic chanting
you dog
I grew up with OoT and you thought that the shadow temple was scary?
I'm a Muslim and I understand the problems of including religious chants and symbols in video games. And the verses in this audio are very significant verses in Islam so some people might not have liked it.
But nonetheless I think this is really cool. And as a Zelda fan myself I would've probably enjoyed this more than the actual fire temple music.
Would've been really cool to hear something you know in your favorite video game.
Edit: If it's the Gorons praying then I guess this makes them canonically Muslims, lol 😅
This chant made this temple so uncomfortable lol
But it also matches very well, the temple looks kinda muslim
@@Flanvenus but i guess thats what makes games special and unique, setting them apart from other games
What do the songs say?
@@pedroalanlopezcastillo9159 in name of allah the most merciful and beneficient
This song was amazing. First time playing the game I thought it was the Gorons crying for help.
Then after I beat the temple if thought it was volvagia then later decided it sounds nothing like it.Then I decided its the chants of the those whose souls remain in the temple thanks to the wicked that is Volvagia.
david acourt Azure Silver Dragon, good to see you here.
FightingMachine227 Changed name too
Yep, got tired of having no real username
Volvagia is best boss ever in my opinion
Well the chants are actually Muslim prayer that they accidently sourced. Then men your hearing in the background are supposed to be Muslim men saying the creed to convert to sualma apparently. They took this out in later versions as nintendo has a policy of showing no religion or politics in games
I understand the revolt this song has generated, but this sound is incredibly atmospheric to the music and I love it
as a muslim i don't agree, mixing religious words with a game is disrespectful, i understand that you find it atmospheric with the atmosphere of this temple but when you are muslim and you hear that, we have the impression that we are laughing at our religion
@@kenza6131 Grow up. Not everything has to pander to your religion, and FYI, nobody is laughing (at you, or the music) in the Fire Temple
@@kenza6131 "mixing religious words with a game is disrespectful"
Well _I_ disagree. I can see how you'd find it disrespectful, but I don't see how it is.
If I remember correctly it's just some dude saying the usual "god is great" prayer so would it really be any different then if they used any other religious prayer?
Like some dude saying "Bless us heavenly father, for we recognize your greatness as our lord. In Jesus' holy name I pray, amen."
Would it still be disrespectful if they used _that_ prayer? Or is it only disrespectful because they used a prayer from _your_ religion?
The only difference I see between the two prayers is the second wouldn't be as cool and atmospheric to the temple unless it was said in a melodic chant..
"When you are Muslim and you hear that, we have the impression that we are laughing at our religion"
So.. when you hear religious Muslim chants in a video game soundtrack, you get the impression that you are laughing at your religion? Or did you mean "We have the impression that You are laughing at our religion" because if so then I'm sorry you feel that way. But I assure you we're not. No one is laughing at hearing your religions prayer in a video game or real life, except for, probably, racists.
I actually saw a Muslim talking about this the other day, how they were happy they got some level of representation in the game.
@@kenza6131 do you think they would have given Christians the same courtesy?
It's amazing that the world wars against my faith, but caters to every other religion so that they aren't viewed as intolerant...
Me encanta esta versión, de niño tuve el cartucho pero sin saber que era la versión censurada. Gracias por subir esta gran melodía.
Whenever I play this again (because I only have VC now) I will be listening to this video. Thanks!
As a Muslim i wish Nintendo never removed it and the Moon Star symbols.
Even if they didn't remove it then, when 9/11 came around, they would be forced to remove it in later versions.
17jun1989 get the 1.0 room or a 1.0 cart
I knew it, people pretend Muslims are offended while they are not. There is likely some of ou who got offended but it's a minority. It's weird, there is no problem to spam video games with Christianic references, prays, quotes or songs. As Christian, I just don't care and even, I think it's very interesting. But I'm sure there is some Christians who don't like religious references too. However, it's not big deal, they keep spamming Christianic stuff and keep censoring Muslim stuff. Just why ? Pfff, that world...
The probable reason why it was removed is because of the line that translates to "There is no God but Allah", which not only steps over Nintendo's policy of promoting religions, but is a statement intolerant of anything that isn't Islam.
Also there's supposed to be no sound during the prayer.
It wasn't removed because of any of that but because Nintendo doesn't like including religion in most things that's not, you know, 100% fictional.
"بِسْمِ ٱللَّٰهِ ٱلرَّحْمَٰنِ ٱلرَّحِيمِ"
"In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful"
The "Basmala"
is that actually what they are saying?
Very interesting. Thank you
It's likely the call to prayer, but it kinda sounds cutoff.
@@ooshtoosht1695 I don't know if this comment is the actual translation, but the song's Arabic chants do have meaning, & can be translated into English. The original sample that Nintendo used a portion of can VERY clearly be heard saying Allah.
i don't know arabic but very fast I knew that this song says something about Allah
The only TRUE fire temple theme in my heart.
What intrigues me more is the identity of the one singing those chants. Who is he, is he still alive, when was it recorded & does/did he know that his voice has forever been immortalized into a CD pack filled with random sounds & through that (for a while) into the game itself. And the fact that audio is compressed just gives it that kind of eerie but interestingly comforting feeling? Who knows.
The identity of the person chanting we'll probably never know, other than they were a Muslim that probably allowed himself to be recorded for a public sound library that could be used in other mediums. (unless they were somehow unaware they were being recorded) As for when, it must have been around the mid-90s, as that's when the public sound library this was taken from was released. I'd have to look up its name again, in case there are any credits there
@@VaatiOfDarkness it called Voice Spectral Vol. 1, Track 76
The Islamic chant heard in the original Fire Temple theme from The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (previous to the revision), was first used in the music track 'Cairo Cruis'n' for the Egypt race track in the Nintendo 64 version of Cruis'n World. The chant comes from a sound library collection called "Voice Spectral - Volume 1" released by 'Best Service'.
if anyone is wondering what is said, it's in arabic and there are 3 verses : "and grace is to God (Allah)" repeated, then "and his is judgement" as in to judge who goes to hell (link lol), and finally "in the name of god (allah) the most merciful"
Well I'm not one to disrespect someone's religion, but damn this sounds cool. It really fits the temple's aesthetic. Games should make more music like this; but use chanting in another language, of course.
The biggest reason they got rid of it was cause the lyrics mention religion and nintendo never allowed religion in any game on their consoles
I agree with you way too much tbh, I like that opinion
Then go listen to surah alfatihah lmao
But the chanting used is in Arabic…
@@somerandompersonsaccount7673 lol who cares
This is such a beautiful song. I understand why they had to remove it but it's sad because it's really cool.
Well, they shouldn’t have put music with Qur’an. :/
@ricardo-2022Muhammad married a 6 year old.
this is good old fashioned zelda the way i remember it i could not play it any other way it was wierd playing the fire temple on the 3ds!
oh dear i had my own small fat screen tv so i used to play my games as quietly as i could XD
i foudn out that nintendo 64's are very tough consoles as i dropped my old fat screen on it when i was a kid and it didnt do any damage lol just picked up the tv and carried on playing it :D why cant electronics be as tough as the N'64 XD
This REALLY would've added so much atmosphere to the temple, much like the Forest Temple music
yea i like it too but, religion problem
It's weird to think that this isn't the official version because it always was to me and millions of others.
As a Muslim, This doesn't offend me one bit. I actually like this version of the fire temple.
+Sonicfan 1999 "I bear witness that there is no god but Allah."
+GalaxyMagician That's true, but the original Abrahamic religion just called Him God.
+ռǟʀʊȶօ - ӄʊռ I think many people say Allah to purposefully distance Islam from Christianity. Allah sounds "foreign and scary". Jews, Christians and Muslims all worship the same god.
pisse3000 Duh. I know that, that's why I said "the original Abrahamic religion" being Judaism.
They're all Abrahamic religions.
ռǟʀʊȶօ - ӄʊռ I was affirming what you said. I wasn't bashing you. Don't assume everything is an attack.
Contrary to popular belief, there was no controversy that caused this song to be changed. It was altered due to violating Nintendo’s policy of not including religious symbols of any kind in their games. Most likely unbeknownst to Koji Kondo when composing this, but the chanting in the song contains Islamic prayer. Early Zelda games depicted Link using a shield with a Christian cross on it, which they also stopped using.
I still have the original and play this when I can. My first wife, who is a Native American, said it spooked her out because it sounded to her like it was a dark powwow chant. Nevertheless, it’s one of the best games of all time, right next to Twilight Princess.
Being Native American myself I can see why she would think that.
I didnt know this was changed. I bought the game used in 1999 when i was 15 and never knew there was an issue with it. It fit so perfectly with the temple. Sucks that Nintendo changed it.
as a muslim these chants are very soothing to me, and it adds that little bit of character to the temple. wish they didn't change it
I believe you can play the game with the chantings if you emulate the first versions (1.0 and 1.1)
I had a 1.0, gold, edition. I really appreciated this version of the fire temple.
Have some shame
@@saleh__h why?
@Loai Alghamdi He does not understand the Muslim faith. The better question is, why should you consider it as music to enjoy. Its just a prayer. Prayer can be used in anything. Its up to you whether to enjoy it as music or perceive it as a prayer.
this is the objectively better version
Nintendo Music does not have this version and the version that they have is only 40 seconds long.... Guys pray that Nintendo doesn't take this down! :(
I played this game when it came out and I remember this giving me chills when I was a kid and hated going to the fire temple, but then I played it later on GameCube and I thought I remembered the dungeon wrong, but I'm glad that it actually did exist
I was lucky enough to get a cartridge of this game that still had the Islamic prayer as part of the Fire Temple theme as a child.
This is why the Fire Temple is my all time favorite. It sets the mood incredibly well, especially due to the circumstances.
You alone are in the fiery depths of the Fire Temple surrounded by nothing but molten death, trying to save the remaining Goron's who face extinction threatened to be fed to the ancient dragon while that said dragon is capable of escaping into Hyrule to burn it into a wasteland leaving naught left, all while trying to hurry to your "sworn brother" who faces Volvagia alone to buy you time to save his people. The chants are a nice touch as you can think of the Goron's either praying to their God's in their final hour, or that they are trying to calm the inferno demon in its fit of rage before literally all hell breaks loose onto Hyrule. Or maybe the chants are just remnants of the gods that once use to reside withing the sacred temple, now their words just echoing throughout the once holy grounds. Whatever Nintendo's intentions may be for it, you can't deny it suits the Fire Temple's atmosphere perfectly.
I wish I still had my gold cartridge... Had to download an emulator to play through it just how it was originally intended to be.
You described it perfectly.
It’s a cheesy kids game with a fairly standard “good vs evil” plot. You’re reading a bit too much into it my dude
@Tic Tac the shadow temple has entered the chat 😂😂
@@tictac3147 “uhm ackshully” 🤓🤓
OoT will ALWAYS be the darkest game to me because of how original it was even with its MUSIC! I remember that this music along with the Shadow Temples music would give me this ominous, haunting sensation. It would SELL you the story and made me believe the history each temple had gone through idk how to explain it but I'd actually wonder thru the temples and look at the paintings, designs and anything that would help me know exactly what went on or happened in those places. Newer games don't have these concepts. The genuine creepy factor.
Agreed 100%. I hope one day we'll get another Zelda like OoT and MM.
like this game wasnt unsettling enough.
When I was younger the only version of the game we had was the wii virtual console and 3ds version, so I never actually heard the chanting. I played the game again on a rom recently, but accidentally downloaded version 1.2 instead of 1.0 like I wanted and didn’t realize until way too late. I had heard about the chanting and I guess I never looked it up because a couple days ago during my first rando, I heard the chanting and it caught me off guard for a second, but it was super cool to finally hear it.
Thank you for uploading this :D I love both versions of the song, I had the fixed version, without the chants, however, I remember the original gerudo logo in the game, and not the fixed one... Also, I think the fixed song of the fire temple fits better, because it feels heavier and powerful, more relatable to gorons imo; with the chants it sounds like too realistic-humanized compared to other temple songs.
Yessss my game has this chanting! I remember hearing it A LOT because I got stuck in this level
This is so crazy, I never knew there were other versions until today. I had one of the gold cartridges, and I got it as soon as it came out so I guess I had the first version. Stumbled across another video on UA-cam about how the chanting was removed in the Fire Temple and didn't even know what they were talking about. Now that I've heard both it just sounds stupid without it. It's like the chant is still there but they've smoothed over the words.
Imagine listening to this at the middle of the night
@Corey Kipps It's near midnight here and the music sounds great.
@@Ragitsu hello ragitsu, fancy seeing you here
@@psionikal Do I know you?
Hm...
it relaxes me
The production seems so off in the best way. Like once you hear this version you can't hear without it. So eary and absolutely incredible
I'm glad I still have the 1.1v cart :3
I grew up with this version too. Honestly I like it a lot more. Much more mysterious and totally adds to the atmosphere!
Mashaallah im glad you enjoy listening to it.
Ill translate for you, and explain the context.
Bismillah al rahman al raheem, this starts every page in the quran.
It means, in the name of god, the most merciful, the most compasionat
We say this before doing good deeds and before eating.
I loved this version in the original. It had a dark and eerie feel to it.
as a kid me and brother always tought this was the imprisoned gorons praying to their gods. I loved this piece as a kid it felt intriguing and misterious. Also the bolero fire was the best warp song imo. Nostalgia overflowing!
As a muslim, this is not offensive, this makes me so happy! It makes me happy to see my religious culture represented in my game
it has music over it tho
isn't it wrong to play music over prayer in islam
@@bigdawg12z Yes because music is wrong period. Music is frowned upon to listen to in islam.
@@bigdawg12z yea music is haram
@@bigdawg12zSome have said that it's the call to prayer, but it isn't because it doesn't even start off the same way. Some have said, and I'm of this opinion as well, that the chanting says three different things. The first time it comes in, it sounds like Sal Allahu alaihi wa alik, which, to my understanding means, "May the honor and blessings of God be upon him," referring to the prophet Muhammad, ending with la ilaha ill Allah, meaning there is no god but God. After this, it repeats again for the second round, but the third time, as it fades out and another voice comes in, the new voice clearly says "Bismillah ir Rahman ir Rahim" which means "In the name of God, the Most Compassionate, the Most Merciful" followed by "Allahu Akbar" meaning God is the Greatest, and this is repeated twice before ending it off with one more la ilaha ill Allah as the chants finish.
I've seen some say that part of the Qur'an is said in this chant. It technically isn't something that Muslims even chant, they're phrases in Islam that were thrown together, but don't have any correlation to one another. That's just what I heard though, since it's so distorted, it's hard to say for sure.
Didn't know this was not meant to be in the game until I replayed the game in 3DS, took me years to realize
Was today years old when I discovered this version.
Me too, mate
Not me, i enjoyed when i played this game on N64
I remember playing this when I was little and my brother and I always found this temple music creepy. But it was also my favorite music of all the temples in the game.
This always sounded strange because of how the chanting sound effects were played over each other, with a deep sound in the background. But still a classic song.
I just thought this was neat to share and most people already know but, this exact sample for the chanting was also used in a few other games.
I noticed this at first with Monster Hunter, where in the second generation games the jungle battle theme had this exact chanting partway into the song and I ended up going down the rabbit hole of video game audio sampling and open source audio recordings.
Back in 2015 I used to listen to this to work at spitfire in Ashburn. How the years have passed. I will remember deployment in Syria/ Kuwait 2017/2018. God bless, I have struggles now and then. Thanks.
In the original Zelda on NES you need the bible to defeat Ganon. It was later changed into the "magic book".
The chanting is what made this temple stick in my memory. Also explains why it felt off when replaying recently. Music was missing a key element I was expecting.
This will always be the superior Fire Temple theme
This always made me feel so anxious, I don’t know why I love it this way now
This sounds so cool so much better than the newer ones
The chills I'm getting right now.....
I came back here because the Goron Temple in Tears of the kingdom reminds me of it
The fire temple music in tears of the kingdom is an homage to this song.
.......how exactly? TotK version sounds nothing like this song
How?
I was lucky to get one of those golden cartridges with all those features that were removed after. After 25 years I thought it would be impossible, because that version wasn't officially released here in Mexico.
I spent my entire childhood believing the newer song was the actual one, I was pretty surprised to learn this was the original
For those curious, the Islamic chanting is from an audio library called "Voice Spectral: Volume 1". Koji Kondo sampled "Volks #2", didn't know it was of Muslim scripture, and unintentionally took it out of context for the track.
He was later notified about it, and rushed together an edited version that replaces the chanting with a MIDI choir. This version would be used in subsequent revisions of Ocarina of Time, as well as the two remakes.
Yeah. Oof.
"Oof" my ass. Muslims are the only religious group who would take offense to this sort of thing. If Kondo had instead used some obscure sample of Pentecostal chanting, I doubt anyone would have had an issue. I respect people's right to their religious beliefs, but let's not pretend Muslims aren't one of the most censorious and easily offended religions out there. A lot of them unironically believe that violence and even death are an appropriate response to besmirching Muhammad, after all.
I'm kinda glad that this got changed. Not because people got offended, of course, but geezus! That chanting is fucking creepy!
to the contrary. I found it beautiful. Then again I enjoy the strange myself so maybe its a matter of tastes?
Ikr
Sam its not strange, the new one is strange
Creepy is good
ProsecutorZero It being creepy was what was great about it. The scariness it induced just added to the experience.
as a kid this chant always threw me off the game, mostly because my brain automatically dedicated processing power into deciphering what on earth was being said.
From what I can hear the chant says Sal Allahu alaihi wa alik at the very beginning which means, May the honor and blessings of Allah (God) be upon him, referring to the prophet Muhammad, followed by la ilaha ill Allah (There is no god other than Allah) then says Bismillah ir Rahman ir Rahim (In the Name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful) and Allahu akbar (God is the Greatest) in that order and finishes it with another la ilaha ill Allah. Hope this helps inshallah (God willing) Peace. :)
Naruto200Man muslims* I understand it xD! Quite peaceful frankly.
***** Most of that is correct, nice job man!
***** having seen videos of the meaning and the explanations here made me like the song even more. but i get the point.
***** being from another culture and having a set of beliefs not very far from yours(catholic-based but mixed in with my own other beliefs) makes me realize god is everywhere and in each of us, even in our actions and creations.
and i believe that a being so omniscient to be everyone of us at the same time does not care about that. enjoy or not, that is up to humans.
but again. i get the point.
***** When did this become an argument?
I remember this one version! I just listened to the other one to hear the difference and it was completely new to me as this is what I grew up on!
Hearing this I always envision the Fire Temple in the its oppressed condition. Taint and corruption rampant, poisoning the Temple's true purpose, it's sanctity weakened and fading. And then come the chanting voices, the ancient spirits of the Temple reaching out for aid, calling for a savior to release them from their bondage and restore peace and order to their ancient home.
I find this one much more appealing than the one in the later games, but I can understand completely why it was altered.
I never really got creeped out by the chanting as when i was a kid i just related it to the chanting in the forest temple, which didn't creep me out but intrigued me. It was a new and funny sound. Not to mention i was having too much fun to pay attention.
point aside i really do wished they kept it in the game, it really makes it sound more authentic as it is called Fire TEMPLE
some things both creep and intrigue me
Koji Kondo did get this chanting and the Forest Temple voice sample from the same CD full of voice full of voice samples for industrial use.
I'm Muslim and I love this.
i don't know arabic but very fast I knew that this song says something about Allah
@@sergiovazquezcarbajo2415 it's a prayer and I'm Muslim too
Imagine if the chanting gets louder the closer you get to a locked goron, suggesting they were praying to not get eaten by volvagia..
The OOT low res logo with black borders kinda give this a creepy vibe, like it's something forbidden.