Honda FALSE Rumors, PCV valve is not the cause of OIL CONSUMPTION
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I have had a problem with my sister's 2016 crv burning oil. She bought the car new and I've done her oil changes religiously and noticed around the 30-40k mark it started to burn oil. Now after an oil change and driving about 2k miles I needed to add a Q. We took it to 2 different Honda dealers to have consumption tests done and both times they've said that the consumption is within normal range and it's up to the owner to check the oil regularly and add oil when needed. If we went off the maintenance minder the car would be bone dry by the time it hits 0%. Just this week we had to have the valve cover gasket replaced because of an oil leak at the gasket and I'm going to be replacing the pcv valve this weekend. Hopefully that will make a difference but based on this video I'm not hopeful. Thank you for the content and letting me know that I'm not crazy.
Try the pcv valve it may help a bit the. Switch to diffrent oil lot of people tell me they switched to GYX castrol and that worked
Switch to a 5w30 oil it will help .I never used the 5w20 and my crv never burned oil using 5w30 .my friend had the same issue with his 2016 and was using 5w20.i told him switch it to 5w30 and you won't have the issue he did and no issues .it's an older engine more miles put a little thicker oil .problem solved
Cool thanks.. I just pick up one from the auction and when I check the oil was empty .. great .. Honda really ?
@@RBTheMechanic Yah that’s what I did
I switched from.
Super tech 5w20 (warren distributor) to havoline synthetic blend high mileage 5w20 And changed PVC valve.
That reduced the oil consumption by 50% for me. It’s been holding up that way for 2 years now. 2007 Honda Odyssey with 228k miles.
Здравствуйте! Сегодня посмотрел ваше видео. как решили проблему в итоге? И gtx Castrol 5/20?
Honda needs to put a low oil sensor on their cars and it should alert even when 1 quart short. Atleast a warning
Lol defiantly I didn’t even think of that they defiantly need to add that so we don’t need to worry till it goes super low
I have a 09 TSX and the damn thing doesn't even warn you when you leave the key in the ignition and the door is open. Lol my 1994 Prelude had a lil chime when I left the key in the cylinder. Fkn do you know how many times I've locked the doors with the keys inside? Idk wtf is going on with Honda/Acura anymore. I love them. But for fucks sake. No oil warning or failsafe in place. Engine should shut off when it's 2 quarts or more low or go into limp mode to get you to put oil in it. Heck maybe even a oil level display inside. Mine has a oil life % display, but doesn't even warn when low on oil. I mean what is going on. 🤣😂
I have a 2016 2.4L, mine tells me low oil pressure first, then low oil
@@sadie3717 awesome! I have a 2009 Acura TSX 2.4L. Me personally I haven't had any crazy issues. But there was a service bulletin and a recall for engines for mine. It does have a oil light, but I've never seen it turn on, other than when I turn the car on initially. Glad to hear they fixed the issue. Definitely helpful to have those warnings pop up!
it cuts out under acceleration when its low, so it kinda does LOL
It depends whether you have a 4 cyl or a 6 cyl Variable cylinder management engine. I owned a 2004 Acura TSX 4 cylinder engine which was identical to Honda Accord 4 cyl. I changed the PCV valve and oil consumption was reduced substantially. The 6 cylinder burns oil for reasons other than the PCV valve. The main the reason is that when 3 cylinders are shut off, the intake and exhaust valves are closed but the piston still moves up and down. This creates suction which pulls oil up above the piston and fowls up the spark plugs and the excess oil is burned.
Not all the v6 engines have that ecm shut off for since cylinders. And they still burn oil😢
I really love Honda. I’ve had a 98 accord(1st car), 2003 accord, 2004 Saturn Vue (which was made with the Honda engines until 2007), 2008 & 2009 accord, and a 2013 Acura Tl (3.7).. they all burn/burned oil except the 98 accord and the Saturn. I can’t even buy a used Honda with a good engine. This is sad. I’ve bought them all straight out. No payments and I’m stuck looking stupid trying to stick with the brand I really love. They should fix all oil burning issues no matter how old it is as long as it’s not like 180,000 miles. I’m really thinking about switching to Lexus or Infiniti at this point. I should not have bought this many cars over the last 7 years . I should still have just the 1 which is supposed to have been reliable. The only reason I don’t have my 98 accord and my Saturn is because someone hit and run me in the accord and the Saturn subframe was rusted underneath. Honda if you’re listening, you guys are gonna lose a lot of customers.
I have a 2004 Acura TSX my oil lights keep flashing I’ve just recently did a oil change and cleaned out VTEC solenoid and now I’m having this problem never had this problem until I change the oil and cleaned out VTEC solenoids. Also, I change spark plugs. I don’t know what’s to do please anybody give me advice.
Same here with a 2015 Accord EX-L changed the PCV valve even after testing and concluded that it was functioning properly and not defective twice and multiple oil changes there is still a oil consumption of very noticeable proportion. Thank you for your time dedicated to this and your correct Honda needs take ownership of there mistakes
Yeah hell of problem with this one every single customer I got has the issue
I have a Honda 2015 EX. With high mileage/week, there is high burning. A mechanic offered a $100 cleaning flush before an oil change to clean out the cylinders but I think it is excessive just to prevent oil burn.
Believe me they won’t they did the same thing with the notorious transmission’s failure on the 5th and 6th generation accords especially the 3.0 V6 some failed at 60-85,000 K miles I got lucky my 2000 accord 3.0 V6 special edition tranny failed at 249,643K miles and the engine was still running top notch even though transmission failed Honda also did the same thing with stupid VCM system I don’t know who the hell is running Honda nowadays but they fucking up a lot lately
I'm glad I found your video on an Acura blog. My story starts with a 2010 Acura TL sh awd 6-speed manual transmission. I did my research on these cars and heard there was a recall for oil consumption and this was a one owner car and I called to check on the recall and they said it was out of warranty. Because the car was such a rare car at the time with not a lot of mileage and being a one older car I ended up buying it because it was such a good price and that's when I noticed that it burns a huge amount of oil. I've been looking on UA-cam for a long time trying to figure out ways to do it without having to have major engine service done to it but because I'm going to keep the car since they don't make manual transmissions anymore I just religiously checked the oil now and it still Burns a lot of oil. Now that I've gone into comments and seen your video now I know it's not just me. I happen to love this car because I was searching for it for for such a long time and I also have a 2003 Acura CL 6 Speed and a 2011 Acura TL sh awd
Yup also switch to gtx castrol oil helped after few oil changes it manages to clean up the piston oil rings
Does it have a VCM/Eco mode?
@@212hazyjay my Acura ?
No if that's what you mean
@@212hazyjay yup
Run 5W-30, contrary to popular belief the engine is specified for it. CAFE standards prevent them from putting higher viscosity oils in the manual in the US. In the UK the manuals give 0W30 and 5W30 as optional
Ok thanks
Good to hear. I thought it was just my daughters 2017 CRV that was burning oil. I did the oil change a few months ago and always check it every few weeks. City driving, not jack rabbit, but using oil. Darn...used to love Honda....CRV only has 40k on it, just have to keep a close eye o it...
Yeah try the pcv valve and then keep an eye on it hopefully u have some luck with it
I changed the PCV valve, actually bought from Honda like an idiot..58 dollars...but 5 months later it looks like the CRV is using oil again...some recommend us Castrol or just add oil...such a disappointment....Honda used to make such great engines...@@RBTheMechanic
@@davidwell686 yeah bro this is shame on honda. But do try gtx castrol oil do few oil changes and keep in eye on it it might help clean out position rings from carbon and make it better or fix it
What you described in the video is all I have been going through and Honda dealership will just keep you running in circles. There's a bigger issue with these engines (earth dreams version) then just the PCV wall nonsense. Let me know if anyone has a solution to this problem.
It's the VCM. You need to install a VCM Tuner or VCM Muzzler ii
Why doesn’t Honda recall and they it themselves?
I was looking in to buying an accord with the 2.4 not no more!! Thanks for posting this video.. this is not the first person with this problem by the way
Every honda comes to my shop has this problem
Thanks for the video! Good info
2.4 doesnt hv this problem
Forget man
I just replace my pcv valve o ring on mine it was just leaking. I notice my past 2 oil changes I only took out 4quarts. I usually take out 4.75 quarts out of the 5 quarts that i put in. I have a 2007 accord se v6 with 350,000 miles. Great car i use it to pull my 5x8 trailer with two job boxes.
Yeah those are good 2003 to 2007 are good
Yup. I will get what I can out of mine, but, Honda not recalling VVT problems and etc... has put me off them.
Yup
I just bought a 2008 Honda CR-V on Feb 16, 2022, its a one owner vehicle always serviced at local Honda Dealership (T&T HONDA) I called the dealer to see if there is any upcoming schedule maintenance, service dep. told me a complete service was done on Feb 9, 2022 (brake fluid, engine oil, transmission oil power steering etc.) Just a week before I bought the vehicle. But man engine oil is like black seems like never been changed and it was low, first hole on the dipstick. I am gonna keep an eye on it, cause I read so much about it since my mechanic told me about the oil consumption problem on Honda CR-V engines.
Yeah do the oil change then keep and eye on it change the pcv valve maybe the last owner drove lotttt anyways good job checking it urself … some people messaged me stating GTX castrol oil worked well for them try that oil and then keep eye on it
I think all the Hondas from 2000 and up have design flaws. Not pcv issue. Unless lack of maintenance but thats totally different.
It's the valve seals! Those engines never warm up!
Yup piston rings valve seals and pcv all is issue
Yes you are correct 2008 V6. Went to Honda for oil burn. When it was new “It is Normal” really I am a car guy, its not normal. I think it could be the VCM system for starters. Any update on your learning would be helpful
I thing new u can try changing the valve then keep and eye on the oil also choose diffrent oil some people said GTX castrol worked out
Beside oil consumption, there is an engine rattle at cold start for 1 or 2 seconds ( VCT). There is so much pressure in the system that the valve cover gasket has leaked oil even on top of the cover. The lower tension piston rings are allowing blow by, diluting fuel which then vaporizes or burns oil off.
@@phillipholmes4466 you need to change the valve cover gasket and this guy must not know the PCV valve not being replaced on these engines cause vacuum leaks that will burn/leak oil eat rings and make the car run rich so yeah the pcv valve is a reason for any vehicle for this problem, this guy must be like scotty Kilmer lol love those Toyotas
My son's 2009 v6 Accord was consuming 1qt/200 miles. The dealer had installed new software to no avail.
I pulled the pcv. It had never been replaced in 130,000 miles
I replaced the pcv, 1200 miles/qt!
Still keep an eye on oil
That's still insane consumption, probably valve cover gaskets
HONDA needs to stop calling these earth dreams engines and more like oil nightmare engines
Lol yeah bad for earth
I just changed mine noticed the difference immediately. 500 miles in still no problem
Oh ok good glad to hear that keep an eye on it
Same problem with my 2013 accord switching to Camry done with Honda
Came same shitttt to be real with u
The underlying issue for certain year k24z engines is piston rings getting stuck or carboned up or worst case worn rings or even cylinder walls. My 3rd gen crv has excessive blow by I will do a wet and dry compression test to see if the rings are just not sealing correctly, minimal oil loss with castrol edge full synthetic though. I’ve been using marvel mystery oil in the oil and fuel. If you do a piston soak with mmo and berrymans b12 chemtool it can actually fix the rings if it’s from carboned rings. It can restore even zero compression in some cases
Monitor oil consumption and perform a wet and dry compression test to get a better idea of the issue. Oil that smells like fuel is a sign of ring issues as well as blowby and oil consumption
Same with my car burns a quart around every 1500km , I own a 2008 Honda Accord. I literally buy an extra jug after my oil change to top it up
Same here
me too same year
Me, too.
Same here
Same issues with my honda civic 2016 ex burning oil more thn usual. Have replaced pcv valve let's hope for the good.
Replace the valve to start
Good info . U are correct. I got mine changed and now oil change again n 1200 miles I ck the oil dipstick n oil level is in middle between min and full mark and I added half quart
Keep an eye on it my friend not so bad but it makes difference with pcv
@@RBTheMechanic I replaced the pcv already too
@@adrienchan2097 try gtx castrol oil I had one guy state it worked for him other wise no hope piston rings and valve seals
@@RBTheMechanic I use Mobil 1
@@adrienchan2097 ok switch it to diff oil and see the outcome
This is so irritating as a Honda owner. I thought after all these years the problem would be fixed. I believe this problem goes back to at least 8th gen Accords starting in 2008. I drive an old Honda which has limited life left in it and I'm considering what other options I should consider when the time comes besides Honda. Ridiculous!!
My 09 accord uses oil so fast
Is it safe to use 0w 30 oil and will it help?
Wao that’s very true happen to me buddy but thanks for confirmation
Try Mystery Marvel Oil. A lot of newer models are having issue with oil build up on the oil ring. I bought my 2011 MDX 3 years ago with 138,000 miles. Noticed shortly after it was using oil @ a rate of 1Qt per 1000 miles. Yikes! Discovered this was a common problem for this generation but made some attempts to solve the issue. Changed pcv valve, nothing, used seafoam in the crankcase and gas, nothing. So I gave up for awhile till I was adding a Qt every third fill up or 600 miles. Hitting the web again I ran across Marvel Mystery Oil. Sounds interesting but still sceptical since seafoam didn’t phase it any. But the more I read about it and many old school mechanics swore by it, won’t hurt to try it. I was down a Quart at 5he time so I put a quart in crankcase and 8 Oz in the tank on each fill. And ran it for the last 1000 miles of my oil change. After that one time incident I am now at 3000 miles per Qt. I will definitely be treating my oil again with Marvel Mystery Oil and see if we get to no adding between oil changes. I am totally amazed. This stuff works
Yeah well customer need to bring that how ever gtx oil helped lot thank you for the jnformation
Toyota’ 2.5 liter engines and the 3.5 liter engines have oil burn issues. The 3.5 liter engine has leaking timing chain gaskets that requires removal of the engine for replacement. Blame U.S EPA regulations for lack of longevity of these engines. Car paints are getting watered down too.
Their 3.5L engines have had this issue since the 2003 Model of Pilots and Odyssey of that vintage...
I honestly didn’t notice the 3.5 loosing oil just the 4 cylinders
I am currently dumping 2 qts every 800 to 1000 miles in this motor. Truth. 2005 honda pilot. No leaks.. good compression.. runs great... 2 pcvs .. i don't understand this at all.
@@aaronsmalley1323 it’s most likely internal leak piston rings valve seals so do this valve then keep an eye on it also try diffrent oil
2018 accord 1.5 w/ Hondata tune. 98000 miles. Zero issues.
Good lucky you!!!
Update. 115000 miles. Headgasket had to get replaced. Coolant leaking into cylinder #2
Our 2016 accord recently started having major oil consumption out of no where. The car has had its oil changed every 5k miles(95% highway) with full synthetic. The car has never been out of oil, but it was terribly close to it the first time I noticed the problem. There is no knocking, smoking, or dripps, so I dont know how the oil is just dissappearing from the crank case. It makes me terribly sad that Honda is dropping the ball this hard. They are supposed to be competitive with Toyota in terms of reliability, but this is nothing short of shameful. I cant believe they told you the rate of oil consumption was normal. WHAT A JOKE! Honda should be incredibly ashamed of the problem as well as their "solution." I hope a real solution is found, because this is unbelievable.
Yeah bro sorry… but u just did video like 2 days ago lot of my views started GTX castrol helped improve the oil consumption so try that for next few oil changed and keep an eye on it
@RBTheMechanic I am going to try that!! Because I feel like I am losing my mind and am desperate😂😂
@@hunterhayes2002 yup do the pcv valve also
If your accord is a V6 and you have VCM I would get a VCM muzzler. That could be the cause of your oil burn
@@kurokaien18 ok
Low tension rings to help with fuel economy... couple that with 0w20 and you have an oil burner. Switch to 5w30 and it will slow way down!
Yup but it dose but switch to diffrent oil kinds works but it eliminates the function of low tension rings now u got oil slowing down preformance
@@RBTheMechanic I would personally prefer the added protection vs the 1-2% fuel efficiency gain.
Well made video. It happens to know how that flow channel it works from the crankcase vacuum hose true PCV valve and intake manifold exit?
Yup
I have a 2013 Honda ex-L with 158,360 miles on it. The problem is the VCM that cuts on and off, that’s the cause of the oil consumption and weird shifting and sounds. It also causes problems to the motor mounts. Mines was going through fast oil changes and weird shifting for a while but no leaks and oil is always at correct level. I did some research and found out the problem is THE VCM UNIT.
So I brought a S-VCM unit to cut it off, now my car runs smooth on all 6 cylinders constantly like it should. Gas mileage hasn’t changed much,
The VCM IS DAMAGING THE ENGINE BY CUTTING 6 CYLINDERS TO 4 ON AND OFF CONSTANTLY..
Yeah I had the issue on Honda Pilot v6 it was misfiring and English had no power also black smoke out muffler I didn’t think of chaning to another ecm
I got a VCMuzzler something like that.
My Honda Accord coupe 2012 has a bad oil consumption problem. I have no leaks but I still have to top of my car with oil about every 3 weeks. To fix this I just always carry extra oil with me and check my oil level.
Yeah did u try the pcv valve? Also some people said they switched to GTX castrol it kind of helped
I agree my 2013 honda accord sport burns so much oil. Bullshit I'm going to TOYOTA NO MORE HONDA!!!!
I got Toyota I had 2004 accord still got it and it’s good not sure about new Honda’s they just pretty honda should step up to the plate and fix this issue do recall
I have the same car as yours and man that car burns so much oil I hate it
I have a 2000 accord with 310k 5w30 no oil consumption problem and use full synthetic every 3k miles and my 2008 honda crv 130k full synthetic 5w30 not 5w20.no problems ,and my 2020 pilot exl 29k miles no problems yet and I do all my own oil changes fluid changes and all my own work no issues yet I'll keep an eye on it.all cars I change at 3k not 5 or 7500.all my hondas have reached over 300k .91 accord had 480k,99 accord had 380k sold it ,2000 accord has 310k.but my mom's 2012 acura tl sh 3.7 has oil consumption problem 2 qrts every 2k miles
Yeah nothing like good old Hondas new acuras and Hondas accord are issues big time
My 2013 Honda accord I’m getting ready to update the Casity of the oil I’m a start putting 5W-30 in it might even go up to 0W 40 because I really don’t want to spend the money right now to replace it times are tough grace and peace
Yeah try GTX castrol oil I Hurd good about oil fixing this issue
I have a 98 honda accord ex with the 4 cylinder engine and I always have to add oil and check after about 2 weeks of driving.
Oh ok those were pretty good engine tho
I have a 2006 Honda Accord 2.4L with the what I been notified that before the 3-4 thousand miles for the next oil change it only has like half of the almost 4 quarter's that I put on it, and just today I got the red oil light on my car dash, so I had to pull over and wait to set it down and guess what,, not oil at all ,nada ,creo! For a moment I thought that was the oil pressure switch but nope, so I had to add another extra 3 quarter of oil just half way to do the next oil change (1500) miles
That’s lotttt try switching to etc castrol oil it cleaning engine better and replace the pcv valve then keep eye on the oil
Yea i have the same issue 2014 honda accord aport
Change this valve it most likely might not resolve the issue but worth the try
Aloha RB..
I JUST GOT A 5 QT JUG OF CASTROL 10W30 AND A WIX OIL FILTER AND WILL DO AN OIL CHANGE TOMORROW. ALSO A NEW PVC VALVE. HOPE THIS STOPS OR AT LEAST SLOWS DOWN THE OIL BURNING IN MY 2016 HONDA CRV...
Cool u couldn’t find thinner oil than that
i got 10w30 "CASTROL EDGE" motor oil to put in the engine tomorrow...
thanks rb@@RBTheMechanic
Hey. does it help to fix oil burning in your car?Thank you@@doyleholloway1818
Yup, got a ‘15 and it’s burning oil like crazy.
Yeah they all are doing same thing try the steps pcv and switch to gtx oil then keep and eye on it should see diffrence after 2-3 oil changes
Im burning oil crazy. Have to keep a 5quart royal purple in the trunk and check oil levels before long distances. Very annoying and costly! 2017 sport 79k
Yeah true bro every single earth dream engine got this issue anyways did u change the pcv valve? Replace that first if u haven’t and then keep an eye on it also try to use GTX castrol oil lot of people sent me comments stating it made a big difference using sport oil
On J37A engines replaced pcv,add oil catch can,do B12 soak piston procedure,add quality oil and start using Yamaha Yamalube Ring Free,if your rings were stuck that should help at least 50%
Yup gtx castrol oil dose help with rings
@@RBTheMechanic currently using Amsoil 5w20 signature series,so far burning is reduced,before i used oem acura oil and was gone after 1200miles,im not completely sure if the B12 helped with yamalube or just oil itself.
VCM muzzler is the greatest thing ever! All 6 cylinders run at all times!
I changed my oil ,need to do oil changed every 2500 miles on my Honda Odyssey.
It got pcv valve up in the front try replacing it see if it makes any difference
Hello palsss! I'm in Panama, i purchased from us and os suffering from this, we have to put a legal Demmand
Problem might be stem seals or maybe valve seat since they replaced the piston rings and you changed the pcv valve. Some factory defect
Yup. This is basic honda want u to try might as well try it
I traded the 2013 for the 2021 Accord. I hope Honda is up on their game.
2021 is cool so far but let’s see once they reach 80k miles
@@RBTheMechanic I had the same issue but may have found a fix to the 10th generation earth dreams engine problem. There are 3 things you will have to do in addition to the pcv valve change. These solutions are cheap. After my oil change, and performing the 3 steps, I have driven 1500 miles with no oil consumption. Took me a few months but after 1500 miles I have not added more oil and am at 90k miles. Before I add 3/4 of a quart every 1000 miles. I cannot guarantee if it will work for everyone but the steps I took literally gave a new life for the engine. For DIY's, it will cost at most $50 and would repeat the cycle every 30k miles. I am still monitoring but it has not given me issues at all.
@@peachS2000 what are the 3 steps
@@RBTheMechanic This is what I did and it really worked. The 9th generation accord is fitted with Earth Dreams. Sounds fancy but not a great design in my opinion. The direct injection engine design is prone to carbon build up. You will notice RPM fluctuating at times when idle. After a fresh oil change, I replaced the PCV valve. I also cleaned the intake valves. 0w-20 engine oil is known to be a light synthetic oil and is used for improved mileage. On the downside, it is also known to consume quite a bit once the car hits 60k miles or more. It only gets worse. The 3rd item I do to prevent this is add a quart (make sure to not overfill with 0w-20) of pure synthetic oil stabilizer from Lucas Oil. Do all 3 things I explained above and you should notice a lot less oil consumption between oil changes or none at all. Cleaning intake valves will also give you 4-5 mpg increase on average. I have tried changing the PCV valve ONLY the first time I noticed excessive oil consumption. It slowed down the oil consumption but not by much. So far the above steps work and will continue to monitor. If buying the 10th generation accord, avoid the 1.5T engine at all cost. The 2.0 engine that is also on the Type R is a much more reliable engine and it is well made. It is essentially the same engine with a slightly different tuning to be able to use regular versus premium gas. Good luck and let me know how it goes.
@@peachS2000 so did you stop using the 0w30? If so what oil do you use now.
Same problem with my 2013 Honda Accord
Oh ok
I have a 2016 accord with the same problem, I even did what you did, change the PCV valve and nothing changed.
Yup mostlikely piston rings and seals u also might want to try the gtx castrol oil I had few people message me stating it worked for them
Good morning, Boss I just purchased a 2014 Honda Accord 4 cylinder about 2 years ago with around 39k miles and have close to 60k and now that monster 💀 is drinking all the oil 🛢️... I just changed the oil and the pcv but don't run across your channel until now... I'm using mobile1 0/20w and I'm going through your comments and I see you keep on mentioning Castro GTX... But which one there's two with GTX brand and two in the Castro brand... Any idea 💡 which one to use??
I have access to a DIY auto shop. If the PCV Valve or the piston rings are not the issue, what would lead to the engine losing oil at 150K miles. What is the worst case and likely scenario? Pistons, intake and exhaust valves within the engine block? I have a 2014 Accord Sport and it does lose oil some but after 4000 miles after an oil change. I change my oil every 5K miles.
Piston rings and valves seals are the worst case
Disable the VCM
There are tricks to do that
Search for VCM killer/tuner
The whoo? 😆
my 2014 accord burns oil since new. And dealer didn't do anything about it. They said it's normal. I changed my PCV valve but no luck. Now at 82k miles I worry about the catalytic converter for long run. Deciding whether I should keep it or trade in for other car and will not buy another honda.
I would fight the dealer why take the loss but yeah it’s bug repair costly so u better off getting rid of it
Get a Toyota, even a boring used corolla if you have too. At least they are mechanically more sound. Honda stopped being reliable after 2000.
@@JohnS-il1dr I think up to 2007 it was well built
I have 2013 V6 accord 176k miles no oil loss or burning I change my oil every 7,000 miles
Yeah v6 seems to have been good
What you need to say to the dealer is there is a slight vibration on idle and they will replace piston rings
I doubt it they will replace the piston rings they never wanna honer the warranty for this issue
Replaced PCV valve on 2014 CR-V. Still burns too much oil. Not sure if I should replace piston rings or not.
Try diffrent brand oil lot of people had luck with gtx castrol oil
My 2011 K24 VTEC Acura motor burns oil too....changed the PCV which reduced the burn but didn't stop it. No idea where the rest of the oil is going!
It’s internal I would attempt to do next few oil changes using gtx castrol oil lot of people stated that helped out it cleaned piston oil rings and make it much better
@@RBTheMechanic thanks I'll give that a try. The other issue when the oil level drops is the VTC actuator death rattle....that's how I know a quart of oil has magically disappeared before I even check the dipstick!
It's the VCM. Disable it with a VMC Tuner or VCM Muzzler ii
The 4wd models for the CRv Pilots and Ridgeline don't have the VCM function not until 2009 at least. My 2007 Pilot is having an issue burning oil. I bought it on March 3 and by March 11 I was having to add 4 quarts, at least the oil sensor light works if not I'd have a fairly expensive yard ornament right now.
Well I’m glad I have a 2011 Honda accord euro CU2 luxury,it has 260,000 kilometres on the odometer and doesn’t burn oil at all. Must be the later models that have this issue.
Nice ur lucky
Does the 2021 ridgeline consume oil or has this been fixed? I had problems w my f150 burning oil due to pcv
I haven’t come across the ridge line
My daughter inlaw has a 2013 2.4 accord and I noticed this when she bought the car used with only 52,000K miles on it how much Soot was on the tail pipe and warned her I had herd a lot of negative things about earth dream engines which is supposed to be an update to the venerable K-24 engine and how even the Chinese government banned them for sale in. China so they must be pretty damn bad I figured also mechanic Scotty Kilmer here on UA-cam tells potential Honda buyers to avoid Honda’s with them another thing about the earth dream engines that I noticed is that they also vibrate excessively during idle I could hear and feel my daughter in-law’s Honda 2.4 engine vibrating while I was in the bedroom while it was in the garage idling for work 😂
Yeah all that true they don’t build Hondas like they use to
2016 honda accord Sport with only 78k miles after fresh oil change only about 2k miles later oil light came on checked it out and dip stick had no oil at all!! Topped it off checked a week later and it was below the minimum fill dot! 🤦🏻♂️ time to get rid of this car
Yes I also changed the PCV and no luck
Most likely bad piston oil rings and valve seals
Honda is not the same that use to be, in the 90s I personally took a honda accord with 320k and passed the smoge check without any problem at all, I had a 2008 accord with only 58k and it started burning oil at the rate of more than a quart every 3k miles, so I had to sale it, shame on Honda.
In resume, honda is just the shade of what it just to be. Wake up people investigate and take it to a good mechanic before buying any honda accord from 2004-up.
Yup I got 2004 accord I’m fixing it up little by little no need the new drama
my 2017 honda fit with the 1.5 runs like a clock. no issues what's so ever.
Cool ur lucky one!
My 2015 crv is burning alot of oil,but I did make it to about 150 thousand miles without a problem….
Oh ok cool!!! Yeah try GTX castrol oil after few uses of it the piston oil rings clean out and takes care of the carbon build up on the rings and helped out
I have Honda Accord 2013 it is burning oil too. I came to Honda dealer today when my car had no oil. They gave me list of things they will do without any guarantee that it will fix the problem. So disappointed with Honda. I own 5 Honda but now I will rethink when I buy my next car. Most likely would purchase Toyota instead.
Yeah bro this should be on recall but if u wanna attempt thing try this pcv valve then key and eye on the oil also some people commented stating they used GTX castrol oil which helped their car GTX is made for like high preformance cars so that would help Reve out any build up on oil rings makes sense to me so u can do ur next oil change use GTX castrol oil
I think Mazda makes the best engines now, I’ve owned my Mazda 3 since 2005 with zero issues. I’m starting to regret buying my wife a 2016 Honda last year. It doesn’t even have 50k miles on it.
nice informative video! i have a 2017 Accord Sport SE with only a little over 63,000 miles on it. upon randomly checking my oil the other day i was shocked to see that it was a little over 2 qts low with only 3,000 miles on the oil. before this i never noticed any excessive oil consumption. i use full synthetic and 0W20 as the factory recommends. would you suggest changing the PCV valve as a precaution and sticking to 0W20 weight oil, or going up to higher viscosity oil or what? also, even at a little over 2 qts low my oil light never came on.
Well u can change the viscosity of oil I would do the valve and then keep an eye on the oil level to see if it made improvement
Same here with my wife's 9th R18Z4 Civic (European market, we are french)
Engine burns oil, actually catalytic converter failing... Sometimes we can see oil drops from the exhaust lol. Bad couple pistons / pistons rings on the firsts batchs i read on forums...
Damn u actually seem oil that’s super bad
Did u try pcv valve and switching to gtx castrol oil lot of people had good luck with that oil
@@RBTheMechanic Yes the pcv valve and hose replaced by mysrelf at 146 000 km, the car got 167 000 km (approx 103700 miles) ow.
Always putted 5W30 (not Castrol GTX...) in, i got some old maintenance invoices, even the first owner was on 5W30.
I wanted to try a W40 oil but not recommanded by Honda.
I think it needs to replace pistons and pistons rings... Afraid of the total price for this operation here in France. Maybe 4+ salary... Less expansive to swap the engine. 🤣
I'm having this problem as well
Oh I see start with the pcv valve then keep and eye on the oil also some people had result using GTX castrol oil
@@RBTheMechanic ok thanks, my guy.
NO MORE HONDA. Going back to Toyota or Lexus, new hondas with their tubos are gonna be even worse,
Amen I have a 2013 Tacoma and it’s never skipped a beat. Best vehicle I ever purchased.
I never owned the Toyota but I think my next car will be a Toyota even if it's a Corolla it will be a Toyota
My 2017 Honda Pilot is burning too much gas! Which part do you think i should check?
The maf sensor and upstream oxygen sensors control gas check those clean them or replace them also could be clogged up filter
Your right foot is the culprit.
The reason they burn oil is like other manufacturers (like my eyes 2013 Lexus) they tried a new type of oil ring on the pistons. This oil ring is a low pressure oil ring. Oil bypasses this, especially when it's 0w-20 grade oil. Then it burns oil like crazy ..
Toyota admitted this was their fault and offered a warranty on short engine repairs for the old-style higher pressure rings which fixed the issue.
Honda, however, clearly don't care and are relying on their brand name to get by
Ok yeah most likely the oil rings
Thanks for the video i have a 2012 tsx acura i replaced the PCV valve it helped but i have to add 1Qt about every 1000 miles my car has about 130k mile any sugestions.
Replace the pcv valve!! Also if u want switch to GTX castrol oil fee people stated in comments they had results that oil helped clean piston oil rings and made the oil consumption better after few oil changes it showed results
Is it OK to blend a bottle of new oil with old oil in engine? How effective is it to prevent the oil consumption?
I bought my first Honda (civic 2013), it will be the last because of the horryfying oil consumption. Honda France does not recognize anything of the problem. My next car will bi a Lexus or a Toyota.
Same here in USA they don’t care. I already got Toyota
I have yet to meet anyone who drives a 2009 to 2014 Honda/Acura vehicle with a 3.7L and it doesn’t use oil. Acura knows and they don’t care. Matter of fact, whenever I see someone else in a TL SHAWD, I ask if it burns oil? And they reply without fail, yes.
Yup I have to take pictures and make note on all invoices so I have proof that customers car came for oil change and no oil came out so they don’t come back after 3k miles stating I didn’t put oil and engine is damaged and I inform the customer I had few that did come back stating I didn’t put oil in
I have accord 2017 with 100k miles
Thankfully it doesn't burn any oil
even when the oil walk around 7k miles
But there is a little of oil leaks come from cover gasket
I've never changed pcv
How much to have the cylinders rehoned and replace rings on 4 cylinder engine? 3 grand?
They should do this free but job is expencive $4-5k
I have a 2014 and I have that problem bro . I carry a gallon of oil
Damnn it well do the pcv valve and then key an eye on the oil see if it makes any diffeence
i just bought a 2016 honda crv se with 72,000 miles on it... i looked at the maintenance records that was given to me by the private seller and i see that the pcv valve was just replaced 4 months ago... so now after reading all the oil burning problems with 2.4 honda 4 cylinder engines im worried now that i bought a car that uses oil.. im going to change the oil in it this weekend and was going to go with mobile 1 oil but now i will use castro gtx instead...
only time will tell if i screwed up by buying a honda ...
Switch to gtx castrol oil it may help
can i use 5w30 castro gtx oil instead of 0w20 oil in my 2016 honda crv??
i live in hawaii where it doesn't get below 60 degrees so i think a little bit heavier oil will help with the oil burning problem... @@RBTheMechanic
@@doyleholloway1818 ye so my for few oil changes then u go back to 0 20
the tailpipe is almost dripping of oil ... terrible @@RBTheMechanic
@@doyleholloway1818 wow Damnn
Got a 07 accord and its consuming engine oil in just 500 miles but no white smoke is coming out and no leaking .change the pcv valve already also.whats seems to be the problem.?thanks.
Mostly it’s the valve seals and piston oil rings try using different brand oil one guy said gtx castrol worked for him
My 03 Honda accord has the same issue. Although i did change out the pcv valve. I’m really debating with myself whether or not to trade or sell this car.
Will this effect pressure . Like going up hills and bad smell in truck
It dose lot I’m not sure about ur issue but replace it
Thank you RB
My 2010 accord burns oil like crazy.
Start with changing the pcv valve it’s diffrent from this video
I just bought a 2007 Honda Pilot EX 4wd and it literally burned up 4 quarts of oil in a matter of a week. I'm in TN so used vehicles aren't covered under the Lemon Laws. What could be causing this? I've research and apparently the VCM system can cause it to do this but that's only in the 2wd's. The 4wd's don't have the VCM function I've also read that these motors have defective piston rings. If this is the problem how can I fix it?
We’ll try this replace the pcv valve check for leaks or anything… also I have been told by lot of viewers. GTX castrol oil help clean up engine build up on piston oil rights so make ur next oil change GTX and it may take few oil change to make a difference of course u have to keep an eye on the oil lever all times
@@RBTheMechanic yea the pcv is the next step. I actually added some high mileage seafoam to the oil when I put it in there, hoping this will clean it up a little, I'm planning on doing this for the next few oil changes. I can say this I addedthe 4 quarts last night and the seafoam and I check it today and its already black so there's definitely some gunk in there. I'm wondering if a full out engine flush would help it. Haveyou tried this yet, and did it help any?
Wow that’s excessive! Are you sure there is no leak anywhere? I own the same 07 EXL 4wd Pilot. What brand of oil are you using? also what is the Millage on your pilot? With my pilot I experienced something weird a while ago but only while using mobile 1 oil I was always 1.5 qt short around 600 miles. I then discovered that when I use Castrol edge high mileage or Amsoil XL oils my pilot doesn’t burn oil between changes and I’m doing it every 5k miles it’s weird!
@Alexander Cuello I can try that ive actually been using mobile 1.
@@coltonsimpson4909 I hope it helps! Also check the PCV valve it may be bad.
Should I try thicker oil? And what is the VCM ?
I would replace this valve and switch to gtx castrol it helps clean the position rings and after few oil changes it should get better but u do need to keep an eye on the level of the oil
2013 accord 2.4 same problem.
Yup
man my oil burns fast I smell like it can be burning I will look into changing the cover gasket, the GYX Castrol oil. but my question is do i still with the 0w/20 that the oil cap says or do 5w30 like some of the comments says? I have a 2016 accord sport with 124000 + on it did the PCV and millage seems to be worst. they way it sounded this morning made me feel like I had to check the oil when i just topped it off 2 weeks ago smh.
Stick with the same number also change out ur pcv valve it might help a bit
@@RBTheMechanic word I did the PVC just cuz and I get worst mileage it seems but I don’t find the GTX 0w20 do they have that or it’s the Castro edge ?
@@epicdemic215 use diffrent number then
I think a big cause for them burning oil is due to how thin the oil is. I only have 57k on mine and I get my oil changed regularly but something was telling me to pull my dipstick. I was about 1/2 a quart low. When I went to add the oil I was amazed how thin it was it poured like water. I personally think as long as you stay on top of the oil you’ll get 200k miles and then some out of it
That’s also the piston oil rings go bad
@@RBTheMechanic which is also true and overtime as the rings wear out more I may have to switch to a thicker oil
I unfortunately bought 2 new 2014 Honda Accord 2.4L Nightmare engines. Both are burning oil so much that I would rather drive my 2004 Camry 2.4L on long drives, engine is still good as new. NO MORE HONDAs for me, EVER. I would rather buy an old Toyota.
Yeah these got issue honda need to stand behind their cars and fix this
You are right. I am not buying another Honda. The quality is not there any more and the cars are getting uglier. It has become a money pit.
Yup it’s crazy!! They should recall and fix or refund people
Please let try getting petitions with signature and start something this is unfair to us customers.
Yup hopefully we get people to see this video and then every one can agree
Just filed my complaint with NHTSA and going to contact a lawyer to see what a remedy for this is
@@bigsez73 oh yeah please update us with any information
@@RBTheMechanic I contacted the Margarian Law firm which just settled the case with Honda for Acura models in the same year range as these Honda vehicles. This settlement was also for excessive oil consumption. When they get back to me I'll update further
@@bigsez73 nicee I would like to know please do give me update
No more Honda for me, burning oil like crazy!! Need recall Now!!
Yup they should realize this issue and do somthing about it
This applies to a 2013 accord 2.4 sport?
Yup same
I changed the valve on my 2015CRV and it made no difference. The dealer is not interested 😢
Yeah switch to GTX castrol oil and keep an eye on it for few oil change’s hopefully it fixes or makes the issue better
I have a 2012 pilot, it takes 4.5 quarts. After 5k mikes I drain the oil and only 2.5 quarts comes out. So 2 quarts. Was lost.
I did a tune up and changed the PCV valve too. Still consuming oil. But there’s no leak at all. So there’s clearly a problem. I’m shocked that the low oil pressure light never came on,
Yeah it wount come it didn’t get to that point yet but if u was traveling very high speed high rpm it prolly would had anyways there’s not much u can do it’s mostly valve seals and rings how ever thet gtx castrol oil I had few people message me that worked or made a big difference
My Mom just signed her life away on a 2016 crv 99,000 miles. Got it home checked the oil it was low. Changed it 500 miles later it's on the bottom dot on the dipstick. Oil reaks of gas. Not impressed. Might as well have bought a Chevy.
Change the pcv valve and meet an eye on the oil after that also lot of commenter said they had luck with gtx castrol oil it made big diffrence and improved the issue so starting using gtx castrol oil
I have a 2013 honda fit with more than 100,000 mileage this car is burning too much oil, after i change my oil and run for 1700 kilometers 70% of the oil had gone, please i need your advice, i am using 10/40w synthetic oil from the start..please tell me what type of oil do i need to use..thank you
Replace this pcv valve and then keep an eye on the oil to see if it makes a diffrence also switch to gtx castrol oil it might help clean out the piston oil rings and make it better after few oil changes
I have a 2010 Honda Pilot that was burning oil and I was using the Honda oil and filter now I have to replace the engine
Darn ittt that’s gonna be expencive
I have a 2014 crv It was doing some weird noises, I check the oil and it was empty, took it to dealer last night.
Got it back today and the guy told me he had change the oil, I have to run it for 500-1000 miles and bring it back to see what its doing, if oil is low he will have to change the piston ring 😢 Im in New Jersey btw
Oh ok let me know what they same they gave us hassle didn’t want to honer the warranty
I have a 2013 Honda CRV, it uses about a half a quart every thousand miles how much does yours use
@@jojojeep1 that’s more than enough shouldn’t burn that much
so, if i get the piston rings changed will that be a fix? or, will they go bad again?
Eventully they will go bad again unless they upgraded the piston rings and u need valve seals
@@RBTheMechanic ok. so, if i get upgraded piston rings and change the valve seals and everything is done the right way then i shouldn't need to do it all over again? my car has about 97k miles on it now.
@@amber_504 it’s not guaranteed it’s not gonna happne again after all we don’t k ow how the piston rings will be they can tell u they upgraded or had upgraded piston rings what ever their thinking is but time will tell
Basically, maybe, probably. No warranties.
@@Teporame even if u got warrnty honda will say u don’t they are schemy
Hi., My honda accord 2015 shakes when I turn it on, it shakes when I put the reverse it shakes when I turn on the air oh the heater shakes when it is stopped on the red light. change and nothing if you could help me I will appreciate it very much.
Sounds like bad engine mount check to see how the engine mounts are