10k Watts for $300? Power Acoustik EG1-10000D Amp Dyno Test

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  • Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
  • I've received many requests to try this Power Acoustik EG1-10000D on the Amp Dyno to find out the "true" numbers. A 10k amp for $300 sounds too good to be true....so is it? Or does it meet it's ratings:
    1600W at 4 ohms
    3300W at 2 ohms
    5000W at 1 ohm
    All "RMS" ratings, plus box says it is a 0.5 ohm stable amp, so we tested it at this load as well. Check it out and hit thumbs up if you appreciate me buying this amp and testing to get the truth out there...
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  • @wal
    @wal  7 років тому +36

    Purchase this amp on Amazon: amzn.to/1TeAPZ0
    Full disclosure: I purchased this amp, it was not provided by the manufacturer. All of the opinions in this video are my own and the content wasn't reviewed by anyone prior to posting. Affiliate links are provided for your convenience. I receive a portion of the sales from these links, which help me bring you more unbiased content for this channel.

    • @DarianWallace
      @DarianWallace 7 років тому +2

      BigDWiz not sure where to ask this but can you please test some more power acoustik amps?
      Recommendations:
      Demon series ii d4.2400
      Demon series ii d1.4000
      And maybe some of the older small amps from their lineup. Much appreciated. Great content thus far

    • @LegacyWarriorDestiny
      @LegacyWarriorDestiny 7 років тому +2

      So I don't understand how manufacturers are able to get away with labeling their products with lies? Any insight?

    • @JoseChavez-co2tn
      @JoseChavez-co2tn 6 років тому

      BigDWiz is it good or bad brother is it 10'000 or less

    • @MRFATDNUGS
      @MRFATDNUGS 5 років тому

      In your opinion is it worth it for the $300? One more ? For you boss what is a good amp for the 300 range I only have 2 12s that are 1000 watt each. Been wanting to just buy the big fosgate amp but its $1500 is there any thing on the market one those gems that really puts out power for a low price thank you for your time GREAT VIDEOS APPRECIATE YOUR TIME

    • @Rx_Lee
      @Rx_Lee 5 років тому +3

      I think they messed up on the labeling cause if you move your results over a space on your chart then you get very close to the ratings listed, probably ment 2 ohm 1660, 1 Ohm 2832, and .5 ohm 4877 which is very close. Seen alot of miss labeling with these kinda companies.

  • @KC8YPK
    @KC8YPK 8 років тому +219

    Any company that places a claim, should be able to back it up, prove it.
    if not then suit for false advertising.

    • @benjaminhopkins3896
      @benjaminhopkins3896 8 років тому +12

      You cant it is not a CEA compliant amplifier so there is nothing you can do about it.

    • @KC8YPK
      @KC8YPK 8 років тому +32

      Benjamin Hopkins yes there is, don't buy it!

    • @treynathaniel4075
      @treynathaniel4075 7 років тому +6

      It only legally has to accomplish it math wise, not in real life applications, sadly.

    • @FineW_TurboM111
      @FineW_TurboM111 7 років тому +3

      Trey Nathaniel doesn't even manage a power draw close to 10kW

    • @DiyAllaroundguy
      @DiyAllaroundguy 7 років тому +2

      all in all, not bad for $300 . I have heard this amp on 2 dc lvl 5 15's d2 @.5 and it sounded decent. the output isn't all that clean but it's still ok to wow the crowd... a little lol. thx for the video

  • @SteveCamaro2010
    @SteveCamaro2010 8 років тому +5

    It still a lot of power for the money. I remember back in the early 90s when wattage cost $1 per watt. Now it's 10 cents a watt.

  • @Supercharged1976
    @Supercharged1976 8 років тому +56

    All joking aside...how can they not be sued for false advertising or straight up scamming people that don't know they build shit products? I feel like you could buy this...test it and take them to court.

    • @SpenserRoger
      @SpenserRoger 8 років тому +17

      Flexin Five Hundred Same reason why the news can knowingly lie to you. Same reason Obama sold Obamacare with the line "you can keep your health insurance/ doctor if you want" when he knew all along that was a lie.

    • @extremebassline7281
      @extremebassline7281 8 років тому +7

      this is how most of the marketing works now.. you see this shit everywhere

    • @djwonderbrad
      @djwonderbrad 7 років тому

      Flexin Five Hundred every company does it

    • @Cdogg2233
      @Cdogg2233 7 років тому +2

      It probably can put the power out with distortion. These test are with

    • @ImKittyCow
      @ImKittyCow 7 років тому +4

      Cdogg2233 did u watch the videoo, only the Certified runs stop at 1% distortion, the uncertified ones stop at literal clipping, which is when it made 2500~ wrms

  • @jamesmayberry2440
    @jamesmayberry2440 8 років тому +4

    also, i have to agree with everyone here...THANK YOU SO MUCH! for doing these amo test...you take alot of the guess work out of building a system. great job D!

  • @deuntadennard9804
    @deuntadennard9804 3 роки тому +4

    I know this is a old video but the edge 7,000k is better than the 10,000k and I'm running 2 dual 4 15" bd3 audiopipes at 1200 RMS a piece and they hit like a beast! I have cracked two sealed enclosures since I've had it! So these are not bad amps at all.

  • @Thanson199415
    @Thanson199415 8 років тому +7

    I can't believe companies still overboast specifications on car amps, just say it does 5000w at .5 ohm then i will buy it because it actually does it, but for them to say it does twice that, makes them look bad, and makes me think the amp is crap :|

    • @123devinzz1
      @123devinzz1 8 років тому +1

      it would still be a great deal if they marketed it as a 4500watt amp so idk why they gota lie.

    • @Des420
      @Des420 8 років тому +2

      +123devinzz1 Because most buyers are ignorant of anything other than what is printed on the box.

    • @All2Skitzd
      @All2Skitzd 8 років тому

      why not, it sells and that's what matters to then

    • @Hells_Gate
      @Hells_Gate 8 років тому

      because its false advertising

    • @All2Skitzd
      @All2Skitzd 8 років тому

      Adrian Paul
      yeah i gave the rundown on how that works on another comment, 10K ain't the power rating, thats the life expectancy, you'll get 10,000 watts out of it, just not all at the same time.
      False advertising is when you buy a box of cereal and the box says it gives you energy but does not have a disclaimer on it saying that it has not been tested and no FDA testing has been done to support those claims. Guess what? Kellogg done f*cked, Class action lawsuit b*tches, BAM, $3 Check in my pocket, As soon as I find a place that will cash a check for less the $3 wont be nothing left to do but count my money. (true story besides the finding a place to cash it, i deposited the check in the bank and ain't looked back since)

  • @Skarfar90
    @Skarfar90 8 років тому

    Well.. As a rule of thumb with Power Acoustik, Calculate half of the rated power to get the idea of where you are at..
    So if it says 5000 watts, then assume that the amp will do about 2500..
    Anyways.. I would love to see the Pioneer GM-D9601 on the amp dyno.. It's a very popular amp that's both cheap and many claims that it DOES rated power (1200w at 1 ohm) - Would guess that it does so dynamically

    • @wal
      @wal  8 років тому

      False claims to sell amps is still cheating the customer. You know, I know, many others know, but there is a large population of car audio consumers who don't know. This is why I make these videos. The Amp Dyno does not care what brand or price an amp is...it just measures wattage.

    • @Skarfar90
      @Skarfar90 8 років тому

      To citate Steve Meade: "The Honey Badger doesn't care"
      But keep up the work of making these videos. While Steve hasn't made any Amp Test Tuesday videos in a while, I had to look elsewhere, and it seems that you are the best source of amp-dynoing videos right now
      And I like to see the true potential of amplifiers, to see whether or not certain amplifiers can do rated power..
      I would done some myself if I had the SMD AD-1 and a shit ton of batteries. I'd like to see what some of the common brands in the EU can do..

  • @NinoValleyTv
    @NinoValleyTv 8 років тому +4

    DAMN YOUR CAMERA IS IMPECCABLE THIS VIDEO LOOKS 3D

    • @wal
      @wal  8 років тому

      +BartCast funny fact? In the past I used a $900 Panasonic 1080/60p video camera, not many comments about video quality. I started using my iPhone 6s Plus (for convenience) in 1080/60p mode and I've had dozens of comments about how good the video looks. Go figure!

    • @NinoValleyTv
      @NinoValleyTv 8 років тому

      oh wow...i have the same phone....i should try uploading from my phone see how it turns out...i woulda thought it was like a $3000 camera

    • @wal
      @wal  8 років тому +4

      +BartCast here's my secret...record using iPhone. Edit using iMovie on the phone. Copy file to computer using Photosync program. Upload to UA-cam. If you go straight from phone to UA-cam, it compresses the video more. My 2 cents 😜

    • @NinoValleyTv
      @NinoValleyTv 8 років тому

      will do thanks...and great vids keep em comin!!!

    • @TShearPhoto
      @TShearPhoto 8 років тому

      I just want to say the main reason this all looks so good is because it's uploaded at 60fps

  • @hookhousebeatz
    @hookhousebeatz 8 років тому +1

    so pleased you reviewed this

  • @sandymarhefka4673
    @sandymarhefka4673 7 років тому +31

    It pulls over 350 amp's from your vehicle.!! better get ready for replacing your stock altenator

    • @DanielRichards644
      @DanielRichards644 7 років тому +1

      and adding several batteries

    • @dirtrider88
      @dirtrider88 6 років тому +5

      well no shit. you expect a stock alternator to keep up with any amp making that much power?

    • @markmorgan5197
      @markmorgan5197 5 років тому

      @@dirtrider88 my stock alternator can keep up with my sundown 4000w

    • @failcop
      @failcop 5 років тому +2

      Bro that doesnt add up. My 120A alternator cant keep up with 2000w amp so you need to turn the gain up or drop the impedance :) I have 75mm2 run from front to back.

    • @AB-80X
      @AB-80X 5 років тому +1

      @@dirtrider88
      It's not that simple. First off, this amp will not draw 350 amps on average. Maybe 150-175. If you support that with a XS D1400 14 V battery, and run a ´half decent atl. then you're good to go.
      As far as what a stock car will support? It depends on the car. My Ram came with 440 amps worth of alt. from the factory :)

  • @bronzechicken4437
    @bronzechicken4437 6 років тому

    I got one of the 2500w ones from Walmart that's $100, for $20, and I'll be fair and say it's apparent it's not anywhere near 2500w, but the output sound is clean and it runs 2 12s with ease.

  • @dueloneduel
    @dueloneduel 8 років тому +6

    the DG in EDGE looks like DC Audios logo.

    • @iceman020187
      @iceman020187 8 років тому +3

      it does now i see it crazy trying to make u think u may getting a DC amp

    • @ferencbalint3233
      @ferencbalint3233 6 років тому

      dueloneduel ü

  • @scottmiller3025
    @scottmiller3025 8 років тому +11

    Dang 350 amps.

    • @wal
      @wal  8 років тому +5

      +Scott Miller #SmackYoAlt

  • @lancerWells
    @lancerWells 7 років тому

    if somebody just wanted to say they got huge amps this would not be bad for the price. my brother has 2 of there running 2 kicker 15L7s and they do bang. his set up looks good and clean with high end JLaudio midst and highs and a new pioneer head unit that ran him like 1200$ and X'SPower batteries so OT does look and sound good and he don't have bit like 420 in both amps.

  • @gjohnson102gj
    @gjohnson102gj 8 років тому +1

    my guts on my pure audio K3 is beefier than that. I would love to see u do dyno on the new pure audio K3, K5 or K7

  • @erichighfill9841
    @erichighfill9841 8 років тому +7

    if they would just have put 5000wattsmax on it instead of 10000max it wouldn't such a disappointment almost 5k at .5 ohm dynamic for $300 bucks not to bad

    • @wal
      @wal  8 років тому

      +Eric Highfill but remember the Sonido Mask 3k did over 7kW dynamic?

    • @erichighfill9841
      @erichighfill9841 8 років тому

      +Dereck BigDWiz very tru!

  • @dmayse1000
    @dmayse1000 7 років тому +5

    wish u would've shown the amp draw at 4800 watts

    • @wal
      @wal  7 років тому +3

      +dmayse1000 the dynamic tests are difficult to capture current pulls because the bursts are faster than most clamps can measure

    • @lilj7072
      @lilj7072 7 років тому

      BigDWiz could you possibly do a dyno on the hifionics zrx2416.1d? I heard that hifionics is supposedly cea compliant now

    • @waynekc01
      @waynekc01 6 років тому

      I was immediately thinking the exact same thing

  • @Thezuule1
    @Thezuule1 8 років тому +19

    With the amount of amps this thing was drawing you should have been getting significantly more power. What a giant piece of shit.

    • @djwonderbrad
      @djwonderbrad 7 років тому

      Thezuule $300 dollar pos

    • @djwonderbrad
      @djwonderbrad 7 років тому

      Thezuule you will easily pay double the amount for less power from a better company. your build could be a budget build and 2 of these strapped would be just fine

    • @Thezuule1
      @Thezuule1 7 років тому +1

      Brad Icenhour It wouldn't be though because you would need to spend a ton more upgrading the electrical system to produce that power. It appears this amp isn't terribly efficient.

    • @djwonderbrad
      @djwonderbrad 7 років тому

      Thezuule you obviously don't do your own installs

    • @Thezuule1
      @Thezuule1 7 років тому +3

      Brad Icenhour You're obviously a jackass. Do you even understand how an amplifier works? This amp is inefficient to the point that it would likely cost more in extra alts and batteries than you would spend if you just bought amps that weren't garbage.

  • @jeffbarton831
    @jeffbarton831 8 років тому

    been beatin the hell out of a bamf 2000/1d for over a year now and its louder than i need and clean sounding and never gets hot. Def likes a good cap tho

  • @crazy8sdrums
    @crazy8sdrums 6 років тому

    "Simple car stereo integration" it says on the box, as though an unadultered car can handle an amp with a 300a current draw. lol! Gonna need a HO amp and some extra bolstered electrical to run this...and if you are going to add a HO alt and big electrical you probably should look at different amps that do what they say they will...

  • @lfs6544
    @lfs6544 7 років тому +24

    4800 watts for $300? Who cares what the box says.

    • @AB-80X
      @AB-80X 5 років тому +6

      It's clipped. Useless.

    • @likeclockwork6473
      @likeclockwork6473 5 років тому +2

      @@AB-80X exactly. All that power is not being turned in the proper sound wave. It doesn't mean anything.
      This amp only puts out 1900 watts at 1 ohm while only turning 58% of the power it pulled into sound. Its garbage there are more efficient amps for the money that will get just as loud or louder. I'm pretty sure you can get closer to that output with a cheaper Hifonics amp with an easy 8% or higher efficiency improvement. You could get two Pioneer 9601s that will output more than this for the same money and draw less power at the same time

    • @treynathaniel4075
      @treynathaniel4075 5 років тому +1

      @@AB-80X Ran TO clipping. Dynamic are bursts or RMS respectively. So yes you will see those numbers in bursts,how consistently and for how long is the question. Dialing down,as anyone with a clue would know,down just below clipping,I'd bet 4500 watts conservatively. 4500 watts for 300$? Who cares what the box says. Better? Fuckin' nubz..I swear..

  • @deairreoh
    @deairreoh 8 років тому +3

    can you test DB Drive amps , I have a new 1500 D I got for $100

    • @AB-80X
      @AB-80X 5 років тому

      You could test it with a multimeter.

  • @1UpTroy
    @1UpTroy 8 років тому

    before i even watch this, thank you... I been waiting for this test for a month now... thanks thanks thanks thanks

    • @wal
      @wal  8 років тому +1

      +James Fantroy Just watch the video 500 times and share with 2000 of your closest friends to thank me...lol

    • @1UpTroy
      @1UpTroy 8 років тому

      +Dereck BigDWiz lol, what are going to do with the amp now?

    • @wal
      @wal  8 років тому

      Have not decided for sure

  • @BlaqspeedAudio
    @BlaqspeedAudio 8 років тому

    The reason this amp didn't make it's rated power is because the test was not done properly. The amp needs to be mounted on carpet using the mounting tabs with sheet metal screws that screw through the sheet metal of the vehicle for extra grounding points, and also, the rca cables need to be wound into a coil and wrapped around the power wire, so they can ramp up the input signal voltage from induction from the power wire. And also, a battery bank and caps, can NEVER supply the amp with as much juice as a stock alternator that was designed run automotive electronics. I personally saw this amp clamp tested at 12,345 watts at a competition pushing 1 Funky Pup pit bull series 12" sub. Did 199.1 db on the dash!

    • @wal
      @wal  8 років тому

      Wow, that was a good one!

  • @micahevans8394
    @micahevans8394 4 роки тому

    Amp looks fantastic I guess decent for what it is I remember because of you I bought the audiopipe apmi 2k now that is a gem of an amp I want another one but they raised the price so much from 170 it's almost 3hundred now guess they seen they could make more money one it

  • @likeclockwork6473
    @likeclockwork6473 4 роки тому

    Actually those 2 ohm results are pretty good. You lose a lot of efficiency with it going to 1 ohm. With an increase in power draw of 88% you only get 46% more output. That's a huge efficiency loss going from 2 ohm to 1 ohm.

  • @robertedmondson175
    @robertedmondson175 4 роки тому +1

    Just kills me when theses amp companies say ya it will do 10k and it doesn't do half lol

  • @chrisesqueda4009
    @chrisesqueda4009 8 років тому +1

    i have one on my avalanche pushing 3 12s and it beats outa control so its good enouh for the price thats for sure

  • @JeremyBlomquist
    @JeremyBlomquist 8 років тому

    Part of the ILS series. If Lightning Strikes series.

  • @Praisethemosthigh27
    @Praisethemosthigh27 7 років тому

    Please do a test on a power acoustik A3000DB! My cousin had 1 on two 15 inch flame Q compression Audiobahn subs and hit a 153.4 back n the day! I would love to know what this thing really is puttin out!

  • @kolten808
    @kolten808 5 років тому

    I know PA stopped making the GT1 gothic series amps but would you be able to test one, ive been running the GT1-4500D for the past few years, subs I went through but not blown we’re 2 txxbd3 12” subs, 2 Hifonics brutus 15” subs and then to 2 Power acoustik Gothic Gw12-4 12” subs all did well with some tuning and of course stock electrics and 136 amp alt. The txxbd3’s were enough to push my wind shield seals out when I finally wired it to 1ohm in my extended cab ford ranger. Merry Christmas 🎄

  • @erik120719
    @erik120719 6 років тому +1

    None of the power acoustik amps or subs I have seen are CEA certified so wattages are rated on Saturn or something. Ive owned a few PA products over the year and only thing I can say are actually worth the price are the mofo subs. Currently have a single mofox 12 on a jbl gto 700.1 in a 2ft3 slot port tuned to 36hz and it moves ALOT of air and is suprisingly quick and tight also. Big d u ever test a gto 700.1? Havemt clamped mine but at 2 ohms its rated at 700 rms, Id be willing to bet closer to 1000 watts tho

  • @jameslucey2428
    @jameslucey2428 3 роки тому

    Hi mate, is the DIY cap bank your power supply? Be great to see a walk through video 👍

  • @HifiVega
    @HifiVega 8 років тому

    Video was great! The Mosphony is meh at best!! I bet it would be loud on some funky pups though... 😉

    • @wal
      @wal  8 років тому +1

      +hifivega Or those Titan 15" subs for $14 at Parts Express! I think I'll get 8 of them and run 4 pairs isobaric. Sound like a plan??? lol

    • @HifiVega
      @HifiVega 8 років тому

      +Dereck BigDWiz yeah I dunno if the Ranger could handle that...

  • @robretaliation7577
    @robretaliation7577 7 років тому

    Im sorry ,but this amp looks awesome for the money. I can not believe how pretty the guts are. I would have easily have paid 2 grand for this amp 20 years ago. Im in shock right now.

    • @wal
      @wal  7 років тому +4

      +Rob Retaliation yes, price per watt is incredible. Just wish the Mfg's would stop making these outrageous false claims on wattage

    • @robretaliation7577
      @robretaliation7577 7 років тому

      Dereck BigDWiz I dont get it either,man. I thought we would have outgrown that crap by now. Remember the Rockwood Detonator amps ,or mobile authority amps that claimed 1000-1500 watts back in the day ? They really were 17 watts per channel ? lol The notable difference is this amp looks beautiful inside. Those budget amps back in the day were total shit ! I remember 17" of heatsink and 6" of board on some. This thing is all guts. Thanks for your videos. Awesome that you do this.

  • @kikejr5551
    @kikejr5551 5 років тому +1

    Did this amp heat up @ .5 ohms

  • @blkngwinn
    @blkngwinn 8 років тому

    It would be nice to see a test from you on the JL Audio HD600 and the Alpine PDX-F6

    • @wal
      @wal  8 років тому

      +CAMDENN MUSTANG sounds like a good Dyno drag! I'm not sure my local dealer carries these, if they do, I can get both to try out. Lemme check...

  • @nickkrug8157
    @nickkrug8157 4 роки тому

    Very much enjoy mine...smoken deal for 3000 watts

    • @wal
      @wal  4 роки тому

      That’s all that matters brother

  • @FUCKDSS
    @FUCKDSS 7 років тому

    hey ive got a bunch of older amps i live closer to gastonia where you did the oss meet if you want to i would be glad to let you dyno them id do it just to see wat they did and to help your channel for more old school dyno and amp gut builds

  • @heavy12inchsub79
    @heavy12inchsub79 2 роки тому

    Just checked on your link below now amp goes for 196 something not to bad if you plan to wired half ohm for almost 5k rms.

  • @BARBELLS-AND-BUDS
    @BARBELLS-AND-BUDS 8 років тому +130

    Guts dont look too bad, they should just rate i as 2500 watts RMS at 1 ohm and it should sell

    • @wal
      @wal  8 років тому +26

      +bassmansoundking99 precisely. But 10kW sounds much better, right?

    • @BARBELLS-AND-BUDS
      @BARBELLS-AND-BUDS 8 років тому +7

      Yeah sounds good and maybe lots will never know.

    • @CombatingRowe
      @CombatingRowe 7 років тому +10

      bassmansoundking99 your right. it looks like a slightly more beefed up board from a hifonics brz2400. For 300 it's not bad for a daily with a couple 1k RMS drivers. I would rather pay half the price instead of 700 for a sundown 2500 or 3k ect

    • @BARBELLS-AND-BUDS
      @BARBELLS-AND-BUDS 7 років тому +5

      I just think lesser quality amps need to be better cared for, as in better voltage to protect it. Often they have a weak power supply, or just enough fets to support output, but not enough built-in headroom.

    • @FUCKDSS
      @FUCKDSS 7 років тому +4

      i know ive checked out the planet audio anarchy 1200 .2 and 3000.1 and they look to have most of the same componets but i have found a 1200.1 d from way back that might do it ( i hope ) i did a multi meter test and it came out if i did my math right to 423 wats at 4 ohm with 6 gauge wire a 150 amp stock alt reg battery and a pioneer lower end head unit with a line driver but most of my older amps seem to be on the better side of me believing there rated power newer ones i look at and say divide by half that at least if not worse

  • @michaelzernie7092
    @michaelzernie7092 4 роки тому +15

    This is why I love watching your videos man. True numbers. Bought my Audiopipe amps because of your dyno tests. You rock bud!!

  • @hshj04
    @hshj04 8 років тому +91

    2-3k watts for 300 isn't bad. my thing is why not just call it a 2500D and make yourself look better as a company. granted this thing probably won't last but hey..

    • @debychen2414
      @debychen2414 7 років тому +5

      are you new to this car audio stuff?

    • @juggernautxtr
      @juggernautxtr 7 років тому +3

      it's rating is based on 2 amps bridged together.

    • @moncier77
      @moncier77 7 років тому +2

      The CAB produces more RMS cheaper!!!

    • @juggernautxtr
      @juggernautxtr 7 років тому +1

      if a 1600 watt CAB at 200 dollars produces more RMS than A 300 dollar amp producing near 5000 watts playing music how is it cheaper?

    • @moncier77
      @moncier77 7 років тому

      juggernautxtr check out his testing on CAB.. isn’t 1600 Watts! It’s more

  • @Hless421
    @Hless421 8 років тому +6

    It fits the bill. I always hold these types of amps at half the rated RMS and this one was damn near perfect.

    • @wal
      @wal  8 років тому +1

      +Hless421 it's just so cool to have a tool that lets us know for sure! Otherwise we are just guessing....

    • @Hless421
      @Hless421 8 років тому +2

      Dereck BigDWiz It's even cooler when people make videos of the testing and results ;P

  • @pounding15s
    @pounding15s 8 років тому +5

    It still put out more power than I expected but Im thinking I still wouldnt pay 300 for it.

  • @mikemccabe952
    @mikemccabe952 8 років тому +14

    would love to see some dyno's of any of the new amps from orion xtr line-up like the orion xtr 1500d

    • @michaelvickers89
      @michaelvickers89 8 років тому

      I was thinking the exact same thing !

    • @JusstyteN
      @JusstyteN 8 років тому +1

      it would be interesting

    • @syncrogt1
      @syncrogt1 8 років тому +2

      Dwiz, can you do some new Orion amps?

    • @Kevinyaheard
      @Kevinyaheard 7 років тому +3

      I've owned the Orion XTR 2200 and liked it so much I bought the supposedly updated XTR 2500. They didn't update anything but the name. Exact same amp, over preformed at 2200 so they changed the label to 2500. They claim rated at 12.6v but I couldn't get rated at that voltage. I DID get rated at 14.8 however. Phenomenal performance at half ohm as well, get a little warm however...

    • @christopherparis6841
      @christopherparis6841 3 роки тому

      For a few bucks more the hcca litteraly doubles rms over the xtr. Js

  • @TheImightyDixel
    @TheImightyDixel 8 років тому +8

    This guy is is so cool, everyone need a friend like BigDWiz! I bet he is a real stand up guy.

  • @romans116notw
    @romans116notw 8 років тому +7

    How you gonna bite off mosconi's design though??! Terrible.

  • @lastblade75
    @lastblade75 8 років тому +5

    thank you appreciate you doing the test, saved me the trouble of buying another b.s. amp like the ssl 5000d

    • @christopherparis6841
      @christopherparis6841 3 роки тому +1

      Lol didnt he dyno that too??? If i recall its not terrible like 1500 rms cert i think n what did it cost? 130 bucks??

    • @lastblade75
      @lastblade75 3 роки тому

      True 1800 watts rms and it does 0.5ohms stable. Very good for the price

  • @Stedy19
    @Stedy19 8 років тому +3

    Timely video man. My friend and I was talking about that same amp earlier today, and now we have some numbers it really helps a lot. Keep those dyno test coming much appreciated!!

  • @jakeblake231
    @jakeblake231 2 роки тому +1

    We need the FTC mandate of 1974 to apply to this bull. These "amps" would be a figment of a lot of people's imaginations .

  • @joseluisruiz3789
    @joseluisruiz3789 8 років тому +10

    wow, thanks for the video. this amp looks a lot like a Mosconi Amp.

    • @wal
      @wal  8 років тому +8

      +jose luis ruiz My buddy @HiFiVega calls it "Mosphony"

    • @joseluisruiz3789
      @joseluisruiz3789 8 років тому

      Dereck BigDWiz hahaha.

    • @ShadowHawX932
      @ShadowHawX932 8 років тому +4

      +jose luis ruiz Moscloni is better

    • @joseluisruiz3789
      @joseluisruiz3789 8 років тому +1

      +Kazuhiro hahaha moscloni! :)

    • @juniormorales559
      @juniormorales559 8 років тому

      +Danny Wean it actually is the soundstream 3000 soundstream and PA come from the same company

  • @TheLorollerz69
    @TheLorollerz69 4 роки тому +2

    Hey Big D, power acoustik vertigo va1 10000D have you seen this one?

    • @jesuslobo139
      @jesuslobo139 4 роки тому

      Test the vertigo 10,000 watt please

  • @MLProductions.1
    @MLProductions.1 5 років тому +1

    I doubt this thing can even go 1ohm past a few seconds. 2ohm probably overheats after 30-40mins. I just learned to stay far away from these cheapass amps

  • @audrey3870
    @audrey3870 7 років тому +4

    if this amp just said it put out what it does than they probably would be a thriving company now (power acoustic)

    • @a1duzit
      @a1duzit 6 років тому +1

      10000 watts for $300 yeeeaaahhhh not happening

    • @Str8GasGenetics
      @Str8GasGenetics 6 років тому

      I think he means if they posted that it can pull 2500rms@1ohm instead of lying

  • @joeanderson444
    @joeanderson444 4 роки тому +2

    They meant 5000 RMS with two of them strapped at 22 volts! They forgot to mention that!

  • @kennethharless9696
    @kennethharless9696 7 років тому +3

    Another amp like this is the soundstream TA1.3000D really wish you could bench that one..

    • @Floreypottery
      @Floreypottery 7 років тому

      Kenneth Harless they do make better amps then power acoustic atleast clean suns wise they used to atleast but they do own power acoustic. 5 years ago I was a installer and installed alot of both company's stuff soundstream amps didn't have many issues but one with a power acoustic 3000d we had to go threw like 4 or more new one to find one that wasn't in protect for some reason I said screw it and the in a soundstream 2500

    • @christopherparis6841
      @christopherparis6841 3 роки тому

      They do the 4 k n 6 k

  • @kennethjames7078
    @kennethjames7078 4 роки тому +1

    Power acoustic, had 1 b4 it was garbage, never purchase anymore of there amps

  • @doublebubleguy12
    @doublebubleguy12 7 років тому +3

    Maybe it will do 10k if you hook it up to 36 volts:p

    • @MsiVip
      @MsiVip 7 років тому

      SpydreX Official lol.... yas... and drow a lot of current !!

    • @anishpatel5715
      @anishpatel5715 7 років тому

      If it were rated to handle 36 Volts, either way, higher voltage less current draw.

    • @AB-80X
      @AB-80X 5 років тому

      @@anishpatel5715
      That depends. If the internals can support the power, the amps will stay the same as voltage goes up.
      However, I suspect that the amp will not like that much voltage...

  • @TheBeastFPV
    @TheBeastFPV 8 років тому +1

    have you did one on the orain Cobalt 6400

  • @jasoncurtis4404
    @jasoncurtis4404 5 років тому +1

    With no fan and not much air space, how long will it run at half ohm before overheating?

  • @bigbob3409
    @bigbob3409 5 років тому +4

    This is one of your videos I keep watching over again. Amp is rather impressive

  • @southernoverdrive09
    @southernoverdrive09 8 років тому +2

    Thanks for testing this amp, now my suspicion that my Power Acoustik BAMF 1200 is way under powered is correct.

    • @zrafferty
      @zrafferty 5 років тому

      I pushed 2 gw3-10 on 2 ohm load off an orion 2500d which is rated for 1700 rms. Gain set via smd dd1 and never blew one. Did blow one hooking 4 up to the amp at 1 ohm but could been a fluke. Everyone here knows Orion is way under rated

  • @1-Six-dee
    @1-Six-dee 7 років тому +11

    Absolutely insane the amount of amperage it pulled to what it pushed out seems like if u were having a 300 amp draw u should be getting at least a good 4500 watts

    • @selfinflicted77
      @selfinflicted77 7 років тому +6

      Daniel Harrell no with a good amp a 400 amp draw really can only support around 3.5k-3.8k . all amps have an efficiency rating. most decent amps are 80% or above. that means you have a 20% loss when converting amps to wattage. for you example to be true you would need an amplifier with a 150% efficiency. that is impossible as energy is always lost as heat and other ways. the most efficient amps on the market are around 90%.
      my saz2500v2 was ratted for a 300 amp main fues just to push 2.5k at 1 ohm. at .5 ohm it jumped to around 2.85k so its efficiency at half ohm increased to closer to 90 something percent.
      anyway I just wrote this to help you better understand how fusing relates to maximum wattage. also I seen it had 2 likes so there is more than just you that are mis informed about how amperage draw directly related to efficiency rating and maximum wattage. you will never find a 12v amp with a 300 amp fuse pushing 4k.... unless the fuse isn't working right or is some kind if a cheater fuse.
      mike smiley did a test of some special fuses he found and was able to pull almost 400 amps through a 100 amp rated fuse. this is why most car stereo comps stopped using fuses for classification and went directly to clamping the amps. some fuses just refuse to pop at rated draw and some people were using slow blow fuses to exceed the rated amperage in their respected class.
      hope this helps and clears up your misunderstanding.

    • @dirtrider88
      @dirtrider88 6 років тому +2

      its a class AB, there about the least efficient type of amp there is.

    • @waynekc01
      @waynekc01 6 років тому +2

      @@dirtrider88 where are you even getting that fake news from?
      ..it says right in the name that it's a class D

    • @dirtrider88
      @dirtrider88 6 років тому +2

      I have no idea where I got that from. maybe I googled the amp and was reading the specs for something else?

    • @waynekc01
      @waynekc01 6 років тому +1

      @@dirtrider88 lol..well at least youre honest.

  • @modbox9560
    @modbox9560 6 років тому +1

    BigDWiz what did this do certified 2 ohm its same as 6000 sound stream DL 3000@ .5 ohm??

  • @Zacharypetty
    @Zacharypetty 8 років тому +5

    Still tho... 2000 W RMS at 1 ohm 4800 burst at 0.5 for $289.99?
    That's not really a terrible deal

    • @extremebassline7281
      @extremebassline7281 8 років тому +6

      current is way to high for the output.. so no this is a very bad deal

    • @jeroenschuuring6060
      @jeroenschuuring6060 8 років тому

      you could probably get an amp that draws less current and delivers this amount of power. However that amp will have a very different pricetag. being this amp costs so little money it sure delivers where it should. nearly 5kW @.5 ohms in peaks is nothing to be ashamed of!

    • @extremebassline7281
      @extremebassline7281 8 років тому +1

      Jeroen Schuuring unless you have a weak electrical system in your car

    • @jeroenschuuring6060
      @jeroenschuuring6060 7 років тому +1

      in which case you should take care of that weak electrical system before installing an amp of this magnitude! any standard car's battery and Alternator are gonna fail at this kind of power. regardles of which brand you install an amp capable of this output!

    • @a1duzit
      @a1duzit 6 років тому

      Shit that's how I'm looking at it

  • @ABOTTSTORMGOD
    @ABOTTSTORMGOD 8 років тому +1

    Come on people for 300$ and you're whining about its actual power?3000 watts for 300$ ? Hell buy two at that price! You can buy 4 for the price of the other name brand amps smh

    • @hispls
      @hispls 8 років тому

      "Actual power" is 2000W @ 1 ohm with 14.4V. Real world you likely wouldn't see 1500, it will very probably fail prematurely, and it is grossly inefficient compared to well designed modern class D amps. Drawing 240A to make 2000W is just dreadful.
      Even in the price per watt department there's far better to be had.

    • @AB-80X
      @AB-80X 5 років тому

      Sad part is that you could do much better for the price. Power is one thing, unfortunately, the SQ is also poor.

  • @markymark247
    @markymark247 7 років тому

    why don't you test a Pyle PT8000ch. I bought it on amazon for $365 a few months ago. Powers two planet audio 15s that are 2k each and two Rockville 1k towers (12" sub, 5" horn, three 1.5" tweeters) it's cheap stuff but it shakes the hell out of my house, and works damn well as a Dj set up. Yes 110-220 volt home audio, but it's around the same range

  • @merwynvincent
    @merwynvincent 6 років тому

    Y wud u make an 10kw Amp and include a subsonic filter!!!!! Definitely stupid.....

  • @DJKEYS-br1xh
    @DJKEYS-br1xh 8 років тому

    YEP DEZ420 YOU ARE SO CORRRRECT...BRO..AnD THEAS COMPANY'S NO THIS..but i must say...this. i have 4 pa amps only 2 of them .... are the sam..razer 2300 and i ben beatn them for three yrs so what do i say ????and all the amps still work

  • @BeaverModz
    @BeaverModz 4 роки тому

    What 1 ohm stable amp would you recommend under $400 as of right now? Please answer

  • @kswis
    @kswis 4 роки тому

    Thanks for showing that amp. It's gorgeous but the definition of disappointment. Like being with a girl that looks great till you get her clothes off. I have the rockford T-1000 and @ 150 amps its pushin over 1200 watts. As you already know the t1500 pushes over 3k dynamic and does it with WAAY less than almost 400 amps geez, again, disappointment.

  • @vinnybruno8402
    @vinnybruno8402 4 роки тому

    350 amps at 100% efficiency would give 5k rms. It would make sense if they marketed this amp as a class A/B. At 50% efficiency 2.5k rms makes sense. Granted, this thing would probably overheat anyway with a constant 0.5 ohm load.

  • @darylst
    @darylst 4 роки тому

    Rms power is great but how about subwoofer damping (control). Sometimes theirs a reason why some amps cost more. “It’s because it is not just clean, it is clean and detailed” I like loud, deep, low end bass, mid bass, mid range, high mid, low high, and top highs just full, precise, and complete with the ability to hit 150+ dB under 35hz!!!

  • @meademorgan6614
    @meademorgan6614 5 років тому

    Mega watts, for minimal money. Always, means cheap amp. People aren't realizing how many amps it took, to make those numbers. Over 300 amps, most stock alternaters are what between 90 and 120 amps. So a stock alternater and battery, aren't going to be driving this power hungry amp anywhere close to the numbers on the bench. Your headlight will probably turn off every time the bass hits. Not just dim, but go all the way out. 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @GeekyJay79
    @GeekyJay79 5 років тому

    Anyone put the 8000 watt (4K) BAMF on a dyno. It’s called the “Bad Ass Mother F*****” by power acoustik. The name is potentially a bigger claim. It might be, who knows.

  • @GHOSTGHOST-jw1mi
    @GHOSTGHOST-jw1mi Рік тому

    Has anyone on here seeing a amp dyno on a AudioPipe APDL1-16001D is rated at 650@4 ohms 1000@2 ohms 1600@1 ohm can't find really nothing about that model

  • @lexluther919
    @lexluther919 7 років тому

    is it really worth to reach 10...i mean pumping 1000 true watts going set off car alarms and shake wall painting what more you waNT....YEA THEY DID LIE THOUGH

  • @UsePINpadtoCompleteTransaction
    @UsePINpadtoCompleteTransaction 8 років тому +2

    I had a '250 watt' Power Acoustik amp in the late 90's on a single Blaupunkt 12" and now understand why it never really did the job... I feel closure!

  • @whatarushlod
    @whatarushlod 4 роки тому

    Why do these budget amp companies claim their amplifiers can do 2 or 3 times more power than their actual ratings... that’s why I’ve always bought the more popular, proven name brand amplifiers... how about putting the NVX 2700 on the amp dyno..?

  • @calimexautoinsurance
    @calimexautoinsurance 8 років тому

    so can this amp power up good or max power on my Two 12 inch Kicker L7 - 1500watts max 4 ohm - 750rms ? or should I try something else? what do u recommend? Hifonics? Planet Audio?

  • @djhaloeight
    @djhaloeight 8 років тому

    guts look alot like my shitty ass Hifonics brx3016.1d paperweight that's been replaced like 5 times for blown mosfets. in other words, typical chinese junk

  • @howiefeltersnatch2973
    @howiefeltersnatch2973 4 роки тому

    So 4800 @ .5ohm for $300? Severely overrated advertising but still seems like a deal. Really wished he'd test these amps st 8ohm aswell. I need an amp that puts out around 1000 watt rms @ 8ohm....

  • @wilkinru
    @wilkinru 8 років тому

    Power Acoustik still making amps that are over-rated. Takes me back to high school. Now if I could just get the RF 600a4 back that was stolen from me in college...

  • @JasonStaggs99
    @JasonStaggs99 7 років тому +1

    2800 at 1Ω and 4800 at .5Ω that's pretty good for $300+- dollars if only it was about $75 or so cheaper

  • @robmccoy5207
    @robmccoy5207 2 роки тому

    Was trying to see if you had any dyno info for a Power Acoustik OV2-1200 1200W. I think this answers my curiosity about what to expect from it though.

  • @accordingtohonda4308
    @accordingtohonda4308 7 років тому

    Why oh why must they lie. We should start a site where people can sign up with their new amp (company/model/wattage/price paid/etc) and everyone should file lawsuits. Grass roots/d.i.y. Consumer Protection against this false ratings and advertising.

  • @lmadden6236
    @lmadden6236 8 років тому

    These fools could tell the truth and their amp would still be worth what you pay for it. The guts look nice and it's under 300 online. How long it will last? Who knows? They could build a good reputation by being honest. They must've gotten some tips from Soundstream when they took ownership.

  • @MFXdump
    @MFXdump 5 років тому

    Anyone ever heard of an amp going bad overnight while it sits in the vehicle with the stereo off? Happened to my Planet Shit Audio 4000.1D. The only noise I can get it to make now is a rumble, when I toggle the gain around.

  • @modbox9560
    @modbox9560 6 років тому

    BigDWiz what do you think two soundstream 6000DL do strapped at 4 ohm 2 ohm per amp???? My DL has same board but rated 3000rms @ .5 ohm

  • @Fdztinkerbox.
    @Fdztinkerbox. 8 років тому

    You ever test out any quantum amps like the 4000? Im in bc canada and would love to know..our amps out here that are 2000 watts or more are a ridiculous price..so im going this rout...gotta build on a budget when u aint making 100 k a year :)

  • @AlienGrade
    @AlienGrade 4 роки тому

    So Watts per Dollar is a thing now? what happened to quality. this guy showed Amps burning up I guess you guys do not have family in your vehicle or don't mind taking the bus after a few songs.

  • @mikewaters6339
    @mikewaters6339 8 років тому

    not too surprised. didn't the APCL do 2000 plus watts for a price tag of 149.00? what a junk amp like most of their stuff. thanks for video man.

  • @4dirt2racer0
    @4dirt2racer0 2 роки тому

    lol i like how it says "can b hooked up with factory head unit" how often do they think somebody that sticks with the factory head unit, is goin to want a TEN THOUsand watt amp... lol :p

  • @deondiggs61
    @deondiggs61 6 років тому

    I'm buying 2 Dual Wal Mart amps and I think I'll be just as satisfied. They are lil over achievers. You should Dyno them.

  • @JohnDoe-cv8iw
    @JohnDoe-cv8iw 2 роки тому

    Thanks for the video, i see these are now only $130 on ebay and after watching this i think i will buy one! i only have a single skar zvx 12 do i think this will be perfect for me!

  • @tristenfletcher577
    @tristenfletcher577 7 років тому

    dwiz have a question bout my amps I have 2 5500 power acoustik amps strapped on 2 15s subwoofers and when I turn the gain up the amps protect light come on so is that protect light coming on because it's not getting the right power or could it be something else

  • @joeyholthusen6495
    @joeyholthusen6495 6 років тому

    Maybe not the claimed wattage, but willing to bet not bad price for what it is. I've always enjoyed the top manufacturer brands..... but is also the enclosure and how you set up a system... not just power.

  • @user-ip7uj1zl6e
    @user-ip7uj1zl6e 7 років тому

    almost no amps actually put out rated power if it does 4k rms for 300 bucks its not a bad deal at all. plus im sure if u can get em better voltage theyd pump a little more it's basically a stock alternator test. my 6ks hit way harder at 15.5v then the 14v