Precision Power Black Ice 7000.1D Amp Dyno and Unboxing
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- Опубліковано 20 сер 2024
- When people ask what is the most powerful amplifier you can get for around $200, usually 2 names come up.. The CAB 1600.1 and the Skar RP2000.1D... But is there a 3rd choice? Based on the specs the Precision Power ICE7000.1D offers the best of each of those amplifiers at roughly the same price... But are those numbers legit? In this video we will unbox this Precision Power amplifier and strap it up to the test bench for a dyno run and see what this amp can ACTUALLY do.
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Thanks for testing the amplifiers that people talk bad about, but have no real wold experience with. Truth not smack talk, I love it! Keep up the great work.
No bullshit, I've honestly been waiting 2 YEARS for this video!!!!
THANK YOU!
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I don't care if it's scar audiopipe cab ppi lanzar or dual, the power you get for the money your spending is outstanding! Back in the 80's you'd be lucky to find 100 watts for 250 or less. Love the testing. Love the videos you and Derek do. Wish Meade would start doing them again. But this is awesome power for Penny's.
in the 80's you had to pay 399.99 for 75x2 and 499.99 for 100x2.
@@WarhawkLegend69 Fuck the 90's were just as bad
These are the good ol days i guess when u buy a 3k for $ 200
Exactly... In the late 90s I had a Soundstream reference 10.0 amp (the chrome one, look it up lol) it was 1000 watts, and was around $1000. It's crazy to me how cheap everything is since I've got back into the car audio stuff. Soundstream is just embarrassing now 🤦🏼♂️
Awesome video brother!! BTW, I didn’t Test the CAB1600 at 0.5 certified as it was a loaner, but I do know of another one that put out the manic smoke when tested at 0.5 🤭
Ouch, 0.5 static is a tough load to handle regardless of what amp you're testing.
BigDWiz great video that is a sexy amp
Ryan Blankenship BigDWiz I've been waiting to see if the new Orion XTR 2500.1dz would be tested. Don't know if you guys noticed, but the price dropped to $329 on ebay. If it puts out the same 3k watts @12.8v, that's one hell of a deal.
My cab poped at 1ohm 13.4v had it replaced an the factory replacement didn't work so fuck cab
Yeah not bad numbers but that amp load efficiency is where it would get me. You look at other amps say for instance big d just tested the prime 1200 and the efficiency on a amp like fosgate you're getting more power with less of a power munching monster issue. I used to love ppi. I used to run ppi pro flats(giving away my age lol) but they did slide down hill going Chinese guts. Without a montage of batteries my little ol single mechman 240 and interstate battery couldn't do it. I loved the vid, in fact about 6 months to a year ago I almost bought this amp. Loved getting to see it tested
I got the older model same watts for 5 years now and still kicking like a monster
Been running 3 dvc 4ohm 12’s in series (.6666 ohm) on this amp for over a year with zero issues. It crushes!
Thanks for finally making a true clamp video for this amp. I bought the first version of this amp(same guts) three years ago for $189 I think. Bought it as a backup just to have. Then decided to put it in my work truck on 2 sa 12's at .6 nominal with 2 C&D batt's plus under hood battery. Mind you I do watch my voltage at the amp and never push it below 12.2 ish. Needless to say it been taking a beating and never a hiccup even in Hot Houston summers. Best money for reliable power I have spent in a while. Love the videos also👌
I have had this amp for almost a year now and this was the video that made up my mind to buy it. It's been running at .5 ohm ( before rise obviously) for it's whole life , powering 4 soundqubed hds2.108s.
Love this amp I've had mine about a month now and it's at .5 ohm beating the crap out of my trinity audio TAS-M18 dual 1 ohm.
@@johnoates3326I sold this amp a few years back and it's still going strong on the same 8s , just heard them yesterday actually,subs looking rough but still hammering
@erik120719 nice!! Yeah it seems to be a solid amp and built very well..I'm actually trying to save up and get one more myself..
Got this amplifier in today..I was hesitant on my purchase and put it in my truck and it blows the soundstream txp6000.1 i had in my truck previously out the water!!! Very clean sounding amplifier!! Plenty of power for my 18" sub!! Great buy!!
Well your video ( compared to other vids u have made on the Dyno) made me make up my mind on a new amp. I just bought the ice7000.1d and the ice1000.4 ( like matching amps) . I'm am impressed with the build quality of the amp, the guts look like a powerfully setup, and the look of these amps are beautiful! Thanks soooo much for the unbiased Dyno results! My next build is going to be phenominal ! These amps along with Infinity reference mids and highs, and American bass es 12s is definantly going to be a winner!
I would like to see this when you're done with it. You've got a great budget conscious setup going that should get ridiculous still. I'm curious to hear how well your front stage will keep up
@@alwaysinverted1224 I use the infinity primus series all the time on many of my customers installs, 60-90 watts rms and they easily keep up with 2k watts to 2 American bass xd 12s, 4 pioneer champ 10s on 1200 watts, and every other setup I've matched them with. The infinity mids are the only components that I can leave the eq completely flat and they sound phenomenal. If u look at my videos there is one of an escape I was installing in, think that was 65 watts to each door speaker ( infinity primus coaxials) and I walked away about 60' and they were loud and clear.
@@alwaysinverted1224 sorry was just looking and I didn't upload that video, I will tomorrow cause it's on my work computer, those infinity speakers are very impressive, they are almost as loud as my ol blazers active 3 way doors ( 300 watts each door) and have alot more Sq. There r a few videos of the blazer on my page tho
Im glad to see this video i been dealing with precision power since the late 90s.I brought that 7000 watt precision power black ice powering 2 sundown x15s v2 BEAST!!!I hope the price dont go up on these amps.
Ari Reid
How does your set up sound?
Awesome work Ryan love how you put the specs and efficiency at the end great work don’t know how you don’t have over 10k subscribers! They will come! Thanks again your testing all the amps I have been curious about! Thanks again!
Look amp dynos don’t take them too seriously guys. I’ve learned one thing from my experiences. There are some amps that show strong on the dyno but out in the field under real conditions they don’t do squat!!! And then there are some amplifiers that do poorly on amp dynos but they absolutely crush the lows and want to tear your car to pieces 😁 take it with a grain of salt don’t always believe everything you see try it for yourself that’s just what it comes down to……right here this is a budget gem for sure!!! Look at those guts !?!? You kidding me those caps are sized properly and count the fets ????? This is a 4k amp all day under music just feed it the proper electrical and you won’t regret the purchase
Ok
The guts are very clean. It's built to run on the daily.
Pushing a HCCA 152 @ 1ohm on this amp.. I play this full blast in Phoenix in 120 degree heat and it bumps like a champ!!
Dude thank you so much. I asked you a couple weeks ago and Bam. Good lookin out. I have 2 at .25 on a daily 2 Tantric Sounds 15 hhd . An blew out my truck back side slider window.. 3800+ dynamic. Good shit I found mine for 159 got two for $342 delivered. Again thank you so much. I know what I'm pushing now.
BiG TooNz can they take it .25 ?
Gonzalo Aguilera yes it can daily in a 17cube fourth order blo thru. Two 7k not strapped ran to dual Tantric sounds HHD 15's box tuned to 46hz. 60lbs each goes low or does low well. Slaps bangs bumps hard AF.. LoL...
Thanks
Precision power still has it going on bro. Good vid
I think all of these amps are gonna be gems.surely everybody wants max wattage for dollar but most people won't discern the difference between 2000w and 2400w.amps are crazy cheap compared to the early 90s that u remember lol I can get 2 of these black ice for what I paid for a punch 200 dsm back in 95 lol
I wish PPI was the underrated amps they used to be.
For the price they are underrated
They are nowhere near what they used to be back in the mid to late 90s...same with Zapco ..
They aren’t the same company they were back then either.
Holy shit Batman!!! Precision Power is back!!
Thanks man, you have no idea how helpful you & big d have been to some of us... In march I started selling off all my old school stuff so I could make listening to music in my daily MUCH more enjoyable. After buying a PPI head unit I was toying with the idea of running PPI amps instead of the skar amps I already bought. i might. i'm sure that'll power my subs (LA Storm X1.12.VC2) nicely. keep up the good work!
Amp is over $450 now. Oh thank you UA-cam 😂
Back around 2000 or so I had a PPI a600 on 4 Infinity Kappa 12's. Had a great sound but after about a year of BEATING the amp kept getting so hot that it actually unsoldered the bar that connected the hot wire inside the amp. Sounded wonderful though
nice video great info PPI made great amps in the 90S this kinda of power back then would have cost a fortune , but The Rp 2000.1 for the price $229 shipped is har to beat in my book . Looking forward to see the new Soundqubed amp do . keep up the great work.
Thanks for explaining certified & uncertified I was wondering about that.
The issue between the scar in the cab amps reminds me of the Orien/ Phoenix Gold who was better and had more power issue back in the day
Awesome. Been waiting to see one of these. Gotta be honest though, pulling 450 amps to get 3k watts is a tough sell. Gonna take a big alt and battery bank to keep it happy at .5 ohm
Ryan Blankenship The amp definitely puts out great power for the money, but there is no real value proposition for me when I need a $700 alternator and $600 in batteries to run it properly. I currently run the Skar RP-2k on 2 American Bass XR's and it's good considering how inexpensive it all was.
catch22frubert 2 160 amp Dr44 or AD44 stock Chevy alts and 4 intemadters and a Yellow top opt up front. In a 17 cube blo-thru 4cube sealed and 13 ported. 5 runs of CCA 0gage and dual inputs on both amps. My first big build for myself. Been building systems since I was 16. I know I need ofc but 4 kids I get CCA for now. Lol.
BiG TooNz That's a rockin setup man. I have the same 160 amp stock Chevy alt for now with all 2/0 ofc wire. Looking to push 3-4k rms on 3 American Bass XR 12's @.67 ohm soon. Having trouble finding an amp that can handle it for less than $800 lol
Wikkitt Klown Yeah, there's no way around upgrading the electrical if you want to make big power. I'm waiting on some stuff to be delivered this week 😈
Doe this draw 450 or was that supposed to be 350? Been kinda between this and the power acoustik edge 10000 watt. Was thinking they were prolly about the same but I see it doing more power with less. Currently run audiopipe ap30001d. It got power but sounds like crap on the sq side. Any opinions on the 2? Ive not experienced either to be honnest
PPI + Alma Gates, 'nuff said. Old School represent!
I remember seeing those ppi flat piston drivers... Super impressive. Was the first person I knew of to get above 170db.
Christopher Gott wow! Haven’t heard those names since 1998 😂
Don't come near my wife
Not even close to the same brand as when Alma ran em. Epsilon has ruined the brand and Soundstream.
Wasn't Alma Gates team jbl with Gary Biggs
I love how they went with a replication of the old Sedona series heat sink design
The Sedona amps was monsters, i had a 1300.1 on a DD715 redline. It was hard on the car
had this amp on 2 skar vfx wired to .5ohm and this amp beats great sound and for the price i haven't seen any amp beat it yet also got them metering at 146db at the kick
Awesome video. I'm actually suprised the numbers it put up. Keep up the amazing content.
I just found your channel a month ago. I’ve always done budget builds & am thankful for your videos. My last amp was a hifonics x14 about 3 years ago. I just bought a skar 2000. That’s the most money I’ve ever spent on a amp. I’ve been enjoying car audio since 1996. 👍🏼
I have a ppi 7000 running .5 ohms and I’m very happy with the sound although I don’t go past 17 on the volume cause it really shakes the shit out of my car.
Jason Cross
I have this amp like u do
But I haven't installed it yet
I heard my friends setup he has 2 JL AUDIO w7 12" with Rockford Fosgate t2500 watt amp
That expensive amp his sound was fucking clean
I wanna get the t2500
But I already have the blk ice 7,000
Amp
What do u think should I upgrade to the Fosgate amp of should I just keep this blk ice amp?
Does the black ice 7,000 amp bumps as good as the t2500 Fosgate what do u think?
Can it handle that. 5 ohm load longevity wise
Turn the power knobs down
@@CarlitosEnrqz92 keep the ppi
@@tammyforbes2101 why wouldn't it sound as good as a RF? Putting down similar power, and "sound" has alot more to do with proper sub enclosure and efficiency of the subs
I have a black ice 7000.1D ithat i had on 8 American bass dx 15s in my semi truck. One day i went full tilt, then pop went the weasel!
Ryan Blankenship 240a heavy duty alt, 4 alliance group 31 starting batts ( came with the truck), and 2 kinetiks hc3800. Stinger 1/0 ofc cables from truck batts to my kinetiks. I'm going to be fair and say my amp may have been clipping. I set it by ear
Ryan Blankenship either way, your video didn't disappoint. Keep up the awesome work!
ROBERT G
Get what we pay for bruh
It Is What It Is I would still consider it a budget gem. Just gotta keep in mind "budget".
ROBERT G Best bet with budget gear is keep it at 2 ohms and live with the power it makes. You need more power... get a bigger amp and a bigger alternator.
I’ve been running this amp at .5 ohm on 2 XV2’s for 4-5 years now thumping daily and it’s still strong as ever. I did want to get a 2nd one and they are hard to find now and their $400-$500 ,I paid like $240 for mine
BIG D WIZ SENT ME!!!!
Remember when Precision Power was a boutique brand?
Yep in the 90's as a 16 year old I would have given my left nut to be able to afford PPI.
I call those the good old days. Man I'm glad the prices have come down but the car audio scene just isnt the same now though. Kids dont know the struggle! 1200 watt sub amps costing, what, at least 600 bucks for the more budget brands? But damn I still miss those days
I remember, I had the 500 IQX.. thing lasted up until it was stolen in 2007, not a bad run from 1997 til 2007... well worth the 1200 I spent.
They used to be the best sounding amps you could buy. I owned two of the art series back in the day. Great control when used as a sub amp.
Still have a PPI jacket that I got from a rep.
@@alwaysinverted1224 In Canada a good 300 wpc amp @ 4 ohms would cost around $1200 back then which was always double the price of the US market.
It's awesome to see someone else doing these vids on a regular basis. Subscribed! And I used to have a ppi 2600 and 4400 back when they were high end. But I think I'll stick with my sundown ns1 v1 after seeing the numbers. Cheap power for some. Great vid!
Always enjoy your vids. Thank you for taking the time to make them.
If you're looking for suggestions, there's a seller on eBay right now selling the CT Sounds T-300.2 for $100 shipped. Claims 940 watts RMS @ 4 ohms bridged.
LOL. Ok. A simple thank you would suffice.
No harm. No foul.
Wish someone did this dyno 2 months ago. Fried a Taramp 6k and replaced it with 4X Skar RP2000.1 on 4 15’s. Awesome amps but after watching this, makes me wish I went with 4 of these amps. My 15’s are custom built 400oz motors with 3” 8 layer coils on TI 15” frames. These amps would of maxed them out whereas my Skar amps don’t even get them warm.
I had my RP2000 at half ohm and it did fine. Got warm but then I put a fan to it and it was fine.
I ran skar rp for a while in a dual one sub it run great at 0.75 it did not really hurt it, ran four of them at one time one four zvx 12s, I would burn them while I burped it but I was pushing them last their limits at comps
12:10 3857 watts for $240-$260, be good to it and drop it when you need it to put out.
if your complaining about that, something seriously wrong with you.
You will NEVER see that impedance. Wire at .5 and expect the 1-2 ohm numbers.
Mitchell Roberts I run both of mine at .25 daily. What am I seeing then? Please enlighten me. Not strapped.
.5 you're gonna see 1 ohm maybe 1.3 ohms but amazing numbers for under $300
BiG TooNz What are you running for an alternator?
Mitchell Roberts, that is true for all setups.
Not sure how i missed this video, but great find and cool to see a warranted. 5ohm model on the market.
I have two precision power amps and tbh no complaints here
God I really miss the Art Series A1200's 120A at 12.0V was a fricken monster (had 4 of them in my Stealth)
The Powerus 1600.1 is rated at .5, 1, 2, and 4 ohms
I seen a powerus 15k on two Crossfire Xt3
I think it's a beautiful budget gem...... what more could you want from a $249 amp.... 👏
I would love to see you test a sound stream t1-6000d amp.
Very powerful amp for the price definitely
Dude was selling one on Facebook for $100 not even opened.
I would have bought that
You didn't have the.voltage to test this amp. It was dropping into the 12s during testing.
That's insane for an amp you can pick up on Amazon for under $300!
hope they come out with a better looking heat sink for next year.
Thank you I have been on the fence on buying this amp even have it saved on ebay just waited on a dyno
Nice , Me myself have the precision power black ice 2200.5 and it works great
we miss your vids
I like how you remind us, Epsilon Electronics! But the build still looks great!
Have you seen the new vertical PPI power class amps? Wow 🤩
Do a black ice 2600.1 please wanna know what mine run at
Can you dyno pression power trax 1.1200 mobo amp please. Very interested in it as well as many others!
Get the taramps or stetsom they are so small and strong as Damm.. hd3000.1
Cab made 4081 watts on music running 0.5. Awesome numbers for $160
That audiopipe 2000 is a beast too
Looked like a JP23 but had a red circuit board.
Holly shit pulling 282 amps for 2k watts .
Well from my personal experience since I own 4 of the cab 1600.1’s I have to disagree with this video. I’ve only had one problem with them and that’s they are seriously power hungry. Once I learned that, I’ve been running 4 of them , two strapped per skar zvx 18 at .25 ohms all day long for a year now with absolutely no problems. Like I said I love my skar but I truly Believe in my cabs. Thanks for the information on the Black Ice . I love a powerful good deal . 👍👍
Amp dyno Lanzar vibe 6000.2. For only 150 bucks its huge and in sure at 1 ohm it'll do at least 1200 rms but still for 150 seems to good to be true cause its a huge amp with what seems to be a decent heat sink.
wow can't believe those #'s.. I wouldn't trust it at 1/2 ohm but 2 and 1 ohm #'s are great for the $..
Ran at a quarter ohm (reactive obviously) in my vehicle. Not sure what I was rising to, but it never skipped a beat.
Thanks 4 making these vids. Just wish u'd get straight to the point quicker.
iPhone ..... Just wish u'd learn to "FF" to where he gets straight to the point quicker. Lol 😂
Hey man your new bench setup is looking good 👍
I have always liked the name! never owned their product. known ppl that did back in the day.
Check out their flat subs they pound!!!
Run two 12” 1k rms on this amp and you got mind numbing bass
You could also buy a wolfram 0-5000.1 for $300 buy the 1 year warranty for $45 and run it at .5 ohms and get probably 6500 watts or more out of it.
You will pop it at .5 ohms
Can you please run a dyno test on the Precision Power ICE50001D Black Ice Series 5000W Max Class D Monoblock Amplifier? Absolutely no one has performed it on the entire Web. You'd be the first.
Gonna try an get this amp cuz it can handle 3 2ohm subs but mostly cuz it’s so freakin cool lookin😎
Nice video! I’m looking forward to future videos.
Now you gotta test a Soundstream TA1.3000D Tarantula just to be fair ! , In my videos I had one on a sundown x12... Never got a chance running at 1 ohm or .5
hey ryan nice vid i am actually running this amp right now on 4 alphasonik 12 in subs right now only at a 2 ohm load until i get my 240 amp alt. all ready have big 3 and another battery and all wire is 1/0 ofc. the subs are in a compression box and it sounds pretty good like this cant wait for the alti. and to drop to 0.5 ohm
got a quick question do you think it wld be better to run 1 at 0.5 ohm or 2 at 1.0 ohms i dont want to pop the amps after a month or so
Man 20 years ago Precision Power was too of the line stuff,and definitely not cheap. Kind of like Soundstream like I used to run which is just embarrassing to admit now. It used to not be junk either with the reference series amps and subs
Why do people feel the need to run those 2 to 1 zero gauge for power and ground? I would think if the amplifier manufacturer required that much cable to feed the amp, they would have more than one power and ground inputs. I’ve seen Orion, DC, Sundown, Deafbounce, Crossfire and I’m sure there is more, have multiple power and ground inputs. Adding more cable doesn’t make you amp put out more power. You won’t believe how much amperage a zero cable can carry.
Should test the 1300.1 version it’s 99 bucks would like to see if it’s a budget gem or not
Test a mmatz amp it says it goes to a .25 ohm
I just ordered the black ice 5000.1 I doubt it will put out 2500 rms @ 1 ohm like it says with only 160 amp fuse rating I'm guessing maybe 1700 or 1800 at most but for 170.00 on Amazon hoping has the fans like this 1 can't find in the manual though
Why would we not want to turn the bass boost setting up all the way? Ive only used cheap amps so that is a must for them.
It will make the signal clip and possibly damage your other gear. You can set up a amp properly without bass boost.
I read that the speaker inputs are 8 gauge
Can you dyno precision power black ice 5000
I run 4 C A b 1600.1 s at 0.5 they warranty them for me and they know what they are running at
I think you're probably going on he said she said I'm pretty sure as matter of fact you can call,email,or look on there page where they are getting asked if the warranty the cab 1600.1 at 0.5 and there answer is yes . so this video is false information
When I was an installer,ppi was our amp of choice.real shisnit.
Ppi was our top of the line amps at my shop in 90s into early 2000s. Wasnt our best seller cause you were pahing about a dollar a watt maybe more. Sold a shit load of sentrek480s. And sony xm series by far though when D.E.I started making car audio equipment we sold a shit load of there studio line 12s Nd Memphis's st series and hp series we had a Lvs 18 on diaplay.
That voltage drop though.... Lol. Certified runs aren't a joke!!!
Williston audio labs that 7000d looks the exact same size as the PPI black ice 2200.5 i got for my highs wich are all Skar audio 2 sets of 6.5 pro and 2 8" pro midrange i was going to go with the Skar EVL series single 18 or 2 15s but I was checking out resilient sounds gold series and can get 2 15s that have almost 16mm more peak to peak linear excursion larger motor for same price exactly and can get a package deal of 2 gold series 15s with 2 vfl 1900s for under 600 or upgrade the amps to 2 Val 2800.1s strapped for about 775 or 2 vfl 1000d's for.about 50 bucks more. The 2800s are rated at a lil over 1,300 watts rms at 1 ohm each but I have no experience with vfl nor have I seen a dump test for any of those amps the vfl1900.1 , vfl 2800.1 nor the vfl 1000.1 d . if I go with the gold series 15s and 2 vfl 2800.1s I can save over 100 bucks. Over buying the resilient sound gold series 15s and buying the skar 2000 that I know does well over rated rms suggestions?
All day long I'll stay with that Spar Audio-RP2000.1D and I don't trust those inflating numbers to sell that's my opinion and we must do something with those company's that are selling these kind of amps!
Ryan Blankenship haha..yeah can't wait my friend!! Keep it coming..👍😎 and my loyalty its their prices are to good!
This is true but what can be done
Tammy Forbes critical mass ftw
Would live to see a SoundQubed 2200 or 4500.1 dyno'd. Cause I have both of them
Do a Rockville RXM-S6 Marine/Boat 2600 Watt 6 Channel Amplifier!!
Stumbled across your channel somehow and love it! Keep it up!
Also, what's the name of the song when doing the testing?
interested too
that efficiency though...damn
the real question how long will it run and how long will it last!! for the weeks of music before shut off or fried...
Hifonics does rated dynamically and a little less certified.
Who runs at point five ohms you better off staying at 1 or 2 ohms in to get the sound Cube S1 2250 that bad boy is really putting it out there
I wish they still sold the PPI black ice 1800, came out right before they started doing the over rated half ohm black ice models and actually did rated. Think they stopped making them in 2015ish