AD-1 Amp Dyno Power Acoustik Vertigo VA1-10000D by Jones Subwoofer Solutions JSS
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- Опубліковано 8 тра 2021
- AD-1 Amp Dyno Power Acoustik Vertigo VA1-10000D by Jones Subwoofer Solutions JSS
Manufacturer ratings:
10000w MAX
3500w RMS @1 ohm
2000w RMS @2 ohm
1200w RMS @4 ohm
Dyno bank consists of
1x 135ah CMAX, no active charging or power supplies.
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"There is a good chance that those(some) amplifiers are on the edge of 1% THD at any power level.
This was the reason for “uncertified mode” when we designed the dyno. Some dirtier class D amplifiers can’t be tested in certified mode because they are over 1% THD at any level, especially low levels."
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Not gone lie i love this guy channel he test tha amp tha average person with bills will buy 👍🏼💪🏼
Thank you for watching!
Yeah I'd say so myself
Bc the average person when buying a system is definitely looking for 10k watt amp and probably JL audio W7s subs bc why not ya know.. Might have to sell my vehicle to purchase 10k watts and some average W7s but definitely worth it in my opinion bc I'll have a banging system set up for my next truck bc I don't have a ride at the moment
@@Facekicker hey nice video!! I have a question can i run this amp with 4gauge wires ? And do you know how much amp fuse i need cause this amp doesnt come with fuse on them i will tun this with 2 12 power acoustik BAMF-124
Average person keeps going to Walmart for junk amps. Real bassheads wouldn't even touch these brands ever again
@@TrunkThunderLithiumreal basshead don't discriminate...bass is bass...
I have this Amp in my car pushing 4 15s. Been running it about 2 yrs now. Very happy with it
Here's the thing bro, you may be happy with it. It may be pushing your speakers. But you're using over twice the power then you have to and you're working your equipment so much harder then necessary.....
Not to mention in order to get that much power out of the amplifier your power is far from clean
I appreciate all the tests. Thanks
I have ran the 10k for 2 yrs and I works wonderful I'm currently running 4 american bass xd 15s wired to 1 ohm and its a beast in my truck..right box + power = flex city in my yukon..very good amp for a budget build
I have one at .5 ohms and it slams daily
Here's the thing bro, okay fine glad you're happy with it. But the thing is you're using so much more power to power those speakers with that amplifier then necessary. Over double the amperage that a decent amplifier would. Which means you're getting very dirty crappy power. Surprised you haven't blown speakers yet from distortion.. probably have by now😢
Thanks for all the tests u do
I'm new to the page and I'm not familiar with spec on amps but always willing to learn more about it. So thank you for your page.
Thanks for the support!
I put the 6000 model in my daughters car(she just turned 16) to an American Bass Titan 10 ran at 2ohm and its an awesome setup. Amp stays cool, has adjustable boost down to 30hz, I built the box 2cuft tuned to 32hz and its impressive to say the least. Sure these are low end bottom shelf amps, but for $110(6000w model) they put out good power and with the adjustable boost IMO they are the go to for a budget setup that will exceed expectations.
I really loved the video but i would have loved to see the Dyno specs side by side and that would have been fair please I say again please make another video of these amps side by side and you will get a ton of views thanks in advance .4884 dynamic power acoustik vs 3584 dynamic cab
I have a power acoustik tt2600 I'd like to see on the Dyno! It's old-school and looks well built. It pushed 2 RF power hx2 12s really well. And a fi btl 12.
Thank you a million for that video i really appreciate it 🙏
Love the profile name
Nice video, Thanks for doing what you do !!! 2 help us decide what to buy !!!
I have this amp on 2 audiopipe txx BDC 10s . i glad you did this video bro
This amp didn't do rated power but it did cab- 22 specs which was 900@4ohm 1500@2ohm and 2200@1ohm don't bash when the numbers are similar remember we are comparing amp Dyno specs
@BASSNSANE the difference is negligible and is within the components tolerance however cab opted to short 4 output fets will make the others work harder causing the longevity to be less. I don't know why it didn't count cleanly more then the other but they both struggled. The part you see the missing outputs is dynamic 1ohm when the PA put out like 1000 more Watts
@BASSNSANE btw..... I see what you did there!
@BASSNSANE ok.......... I'm just saying to your response that cab didn't modify it, it didn't make more but longevity is compromised by their being less components.
I see what you did there is well I assume pun intended to "BANGING deal" because subs "bang"...... Or maybe it wasn't intended but all CAPS I assumed so
@@commonsenseisdeadin2024 he was saying that they did modify it some. not that they didn’t .
@Jimmy the budget builder but the cab was not better. The difference is in components spec or the ever do slightest difference of the preamp potentiometers. However this amp completely stomped the cab dynamically.
Cab didn't touch the amplifier, cab just opted to not pay for a few components to save money to make more money where power acoustik actually spent more and sell for less (given I'm sure they get a better deal as I'm sure they have a larger discount percentage). Not like cab is known for reliability, the 1600 was a horrible amp and a throw away (literally as any warranty "repair" they ripped your board out and threw a new one in, which is exactly what they do with the 22 and they did same with the 2000.)
Either way, they both are terrible amplifiers and will fail in short order. But for the price, can't complain nor be surprised, have fun!
Another great video, thank you sir..
Didn't make it's rated power except 1ohm dynamic, very nice power there. So the question is, at this price /cost per watt and power is it worth it. At $180-$200 price range? That 1ohm dynamic test though, dang nice.. It's's definitely a contender for a budget amp. Thanks for sharing these tests and those two amps look identical from my view. Clones don't always perform the same.
Hey man thanks for the inside look at the 10.000 power acoustik amp.
Just got one of them.
Sounds like it's time to return that piece of crap
Awesome video bro. Thanks for the content
Interesting about the THD 🤔 good point! And yeah the two amps are almost identical as far as the PCB layout. I did notice a couple component differences though 🤔
Power acoustic ftw!
Was thinking about buying this amp used on the marketplace. Thank goodness for your channel Big d. Keep me from wasting my money
I am not Big D, but thank you for the support!
Haven’t watched the video yet, being Power Acoustik, my heart tells me it will do 1/5 to 1/3 the rated power. After hearing that people compare it to a CAB product I’m intrigued.
I personally have this power acoustik va1-10000d pushing 4 American Bass Elite 15s @ .5 ohm load and it slams hard no complaints from me at all
Mines has been god to me
😮. When did this amp come out?
@@jacksonduval4995been around for years
Just got this video recommended by UA-cam. Tony explained exactly what I was saying in the comment of the other video where I could see the dyno stop counting up due to much clipping for the given mode while current was still climbing up. Power delivery is simply too dirty to often with some cheap half bridge class D amplifiers and that, for the lack of the better word, confuses the dyno. This doesn't mean that Tonies dyno is bad. It is the best there is. Simply, they didn't take into account that some cheap amps will behave like this. BTW, the amount of output transistors is not the same. This amplifier has 20 while the Cab amplifier has 16. They both have the same amount of components in the power supply section. Though I can't see how many of those are double diodes and how many are the mosfets. Now, in the theory, more transistors in the output stage should be able to provide higher current capability. This might translate to more power. That might be the reason for the music power result as well. Though plain claims like more power transformers mean more power or more transistors means more power or more caps on power rail means more power is often proven wrong by using bad design or bad components. Maybe bad design is a bit harsh to say, but let's call it outdated design. For example, Down4sound JP23 versions 1 and 1.5 use 4 power transformers and are bigger than the version 2 amplifier. Version 2 has only two transformers and still makes more power. Heck, even JP33 is smaller and makes way more power. With the power supply section, the PWM driver board is very important. The same is true with the driver for the class D operation. Often, amplifiers that are designed good, will manage to deliver power even with only 4 caps on the rails. But then they use low ESR high capacity caps. So more components do not translate simply to more power necessary. Never the less potential is there. BTW even same amount of components does not mean same while in same format like TO220 transistors can have way different maximum current rating and power dissipation rating. Even when they are same simple thing as PCB layout and copper layer thickness as well as width of the traces leading to and from transistors and diodes can be different and can limit current delivery. The same size and relatively same looking transformers can be performing way different as well. So at the end only thing that matters is how does it perform and are the components good for long term operation under the higher temperature and stress. Perform meaning power delivery and how it sounds while at the end it is important how does it sounds. Otherwise for burps one could tune up car for 60 Hz and use huge step up transformer into the mains and achive insaine dB numbers without amps or batteries or alternators or ultra/super caps.
Same bass knob my NVX amp came with. The POT didn’t work well. Only worked up to 1/4 and the rest of the way didn’t do anything. I use PAC in line rca bass knobs from now on.
Good Job!
Have this same amp pushing four 12s @ 2 ohm load, subs are 500 rms a piece and its doing just fine 💪🏾 cant bash it when its good for the money 🗣 180 plus warranty thru my dealer 😎
Facts - this amp is pushing 6 12s in my car - about to buy another one of these amps and run 3 subs on each one - so I know it will be pounding even harder once I split the 6 subs up - definitely worth the money - one of the best amps I have ever seen for under 200 dollars - u can't beat it
He's not bashing it. I don't understand you people. You don't even understand what these tests mean I guess.
What is test have just told you is this is not a good amp for the money. If it did it's RMS it's killer for the money. It wouldn't even reach half of what it's advertised to do. That means you're pushing hella distortion. Using twice the power that you have to. Which means no it is not a good product and nowhere near good for the money.. That's exactly what these tests are about. Whether your money is buying a quality product and the whether or not these companies are lying to us about the RMS .. That's why he shows the guts. It's not for any other reason other than for us to make intelligent decisions on our purchases
Good test but my question is how are you getting 76% efficiency at two ohms when it's not even reaching its goal of 2000 watts RMS?
@@bricebowlin8834 lol the amp is great for the money! Still pushing it today in 115 AZ summer heat!!! The key is to not overwork the amp meaning tune the equipment properly for your music. I know the amp can do 2k or over easy but i have only got about 800-1000k of it being smart and safe. Its my daily setup i dont need to shake buildings. Do you even have experience with the amp or you just commenting tryna be mr smart guy?
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Same as the ts power 9000 as well. I got that and it puts outad power!!
I running this amp on four kicker L7 12s & it SLAMS!!!!
Man this amp is a beast even though he tried to bash it but I am pushing 4 15s and it slams can't beat it for the price
Dude he didn't try to bash it. He's here for your and my decision making. So we're not wasting your money on crappy equipment.
You have to understand what these tests mean. By that amp not even reaching half of its RMS That means you are using over twice the amperage than you have to to push those subs. Sure it may push your speakers just fine. That's not what these tests are about. But you're putting hella distortion through them. Did you not see that it was using over 350 amps to get half the power is supposed to get? Dude imagine how much power that is, think about it in an intelligent way!!!
@@alexturner4312 maybe. I actually hooked up three to it and it sounds very good & clear but I have a alpine EQ & epicenter
@@alexturner4312 I'm just saying it can be done that amp will not go into protect mode and won't burn up.
Could you please dyno the va1-6000d power Acoustik. I bought two to strap them and im curious to see what it dynos at.
Ok I just went back and looked at your CAB22 review and this did IDENTICAL on certified, and uncertified. This did better dynamically so yes they are identical in all meaningful ways they just have different heat sinks and that IT
Different heat sinks, different circuit board, different components on circuit board
But identical in every way
Sound stream type numbers I guessed 900, 1300, 1700. Wow at 1 ohm! Well worth the money but will it last in a harsh automotive environment if it’s wonky on the dyno
I would just like to see you test another one of those models to see if another Va10000 does any more watts.
But..what it actually did is about exactly what I expected from the PA for $200.
I'd still buy the CAB 22. I ran the CAB 2K on 8 Massive Audio GTX 6.5" subs and it was better than the Massive Audio D8000.1.
I love massive audio subs, I had 2 hippo 8's but I absolutely hate their amps. They are corny, overpriced and overrated! The unholy trinity
I would like to see another one tested see if that weird count up went away and see if it performed even better.
I got one incoming
@@Facekicker just wondering if u ever got the second amp and if it dynoed better?
@@franklocurto7487 I did and it behaved exactly the same with the distortion light lit up most the time
@@Facekicker thanks for the update
Thanks for the video...I will buy the amp... Power acoustic 10000.
Man I have this amp pushing 4 American Bass Elite 15s and it's impressive
@@alexturner4312 Just think how much better it would sound if you put some real power on them? You're tickling those subs 😂.
Bought the amp!!! Happy!! It's fucking beast power all the way to below 10hz!!! More real power than the dyno says....
@@sarahconner9433except it’s not more power than the dyno says……
@@susanmoreland4407 the "smd amp Dyno sucks donkey dick"" always has always will!!!!... It underrates every amplifier by at least 30%... It's designed like dog doodoo....I do real tests with a clamp ampere gauge and a digital R.m.s. voltmeter.... That's accurate!!!! This amp is not 10k.... It's a good clean 2500- 3000wrms.... And 5000 Watts when you push it into distortion.. The most excellent value for the price......but if you don't believe me the high wizard of sound... Don't care about money...ok......Just
Buy an ORION HCCA 22K and call it a day!!!...
for the price 1400 watts is great .I just wonder how long they will last before they melt
Strap the amps 2gether. If it works their the same??🤔🤔
man, looks like modding this to increase heat dissipation would be super easy
At least the bass knob on the cab22 has a clip indicator if the vertigo had that I’d be sold but I already have a cabb22
Could you test the Power acoustik caliber 8000
For the money still a win.disregard the inflated ratings.
So is this any better than the 2500 watt razor???? I am just super confused over these amps. I have a razor with 2 gothic 12s. Pretty good but i want 3 American bass 12s. Oh and sweet dyno setup!!
Ya this shits on the razor lol but the razor is still a nice amp if you have little space these amps are huge in comparison to the microscopic razor 😊
@@onesikm3I got the ts power 9000. Same amp as this. Best amp Ive had!!
HEY sir, I have a question, I have a Memphis m class 2500.1. The only way I can run it is at about.7 or .8 because of my subs and it be worth trying, right now I have 2 kicker k1200.1 strapped. At about 1.7 or so. I just wanted to try something different. Any information or input would be greatly appreciated.
More often you cook amplifiers... Running under 1.0 ohm.. You can series your subs up over 1 ohm.... It will almost be the same power ...
the Power Acoustik Vertigo VA1-10000D has a fatly gain control some time it just cutout and not work right so it jumps around alot
Id say that the diffrence between the two would be the quality and power output of the transistors. The CAB looks to have less but bigger ones. Any chance you would be testing amy more Power Acoustik? There's the Caliber series too. Doubt that they'd be much better but PA has got to have SOMETHING to call a decent hi power amp avaible.
there was 1 difference between the 2..... the PA 1 ohm dynamic shit on the cab... yes PA did better
The PA Edge 10k does 2500 cert, 2800 uncert, and 4750 dynamic at .5 ohm. It's superior to this 1 imo but only if you need too really swat some subs at parallel that are d2.
Exactly that was my point of view
Better quality brand
I have one powering 2 American bass 3000w XR 15 d2 shxt bangs people buy them while there for sale i highly recommend
Yes the two amps look the same but don't perform the same the power acoustic wattage is not bad you could make some noise with it the problem I have is the 10,000 watt logo they don't want to compete with everyone else they just want to make a fast buck
They are 169 watts apart and that's it and cab 22 is 65 bucks more for 169 watts I'll pass
And they are laughing their ass all the way to the bank.
Anyone at the level of using a 10k knows this is missing a 0 at the end of the price. And what do you mean "don't perform the same", they absolutely did, in fact the pa did almost 1500 Watts more dynamic at 1ohm because it has 4 more output resistors because cab opted to save $2.xx(in parts,idk what the build house charges) and still charge more..... Bargain? It's in their name and still giving it to their customer's
@@commonsenseisdeadin2024 I don't know why people are ignoring the fact the PA is pumping out tons of distortion in its attempts to match the CAB22.
I would happily pay more for clean power, reconing subs or replacing them will cost more than you save with the PA10k.
8:34 WOW that was unexpected
Unexpected to only put out 169 watts less then cab 22?
Hey man I have an old school power acoustik A3000db and I would love to know the dynamic power of it at 1 ohm and .8
I want to know what that amp does as well
Thanks! I appreciate what you do. I'm still trying to find me a 10k. Both my orders got cancelled and my friends 8K amp goes in/out of protect just after a month. I had two PA amps in the past and both did not last long. I know there cheap but ask yourself... is it worth it?
These amps showing higher than 1% distortion during normal operation is a deal breaker for me. The CAB22 did not show this issue.
This is my 2nd pa amp the 1st thing set don't make anymore and im kicking my self daily for selling .power acoustik GT1-4500D gothick ..that amp played no games
I have this amp on 2 audio pipe triple stack 15s and 4 batteries and lord for the numbers to lie this amp puts out if you feed it
@@DeeBrackin lol yeah but a taramps is better according to people that dyno test them
@@alanclark9000 yes...lord
Oh one more thing they both had the same issue when you were dynoing too where they didn’t count up cleanly
...hey Facekicker, do you still have this particular power acoustik vertigo 10k amp, the one that you tested in this video?
I might
@@Facekicker what would you want for it, if you still have it?
specs say 3500 watts rms x1 at 1 ohm load. ignore the 10,000 watt part (that is not rms rating)
Next up test the Black Diamond (ds18) 2250.1
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Would these be good amp for the 2 12’s gothic
It's amazing with 2 gothics in a ported 34hz box.. pretty insane!
Ever test another one of those Vertigo 10000s?
Same results
When I first heard power acoustic...I said to myself "say no more" already knew the outcome
Wanted to see if you had a skar rp 4500 for sale for my two dd 9918s
Was there a .5 ohms test?
Very nice for the price. This amp is less than $200 witch means less than $1 per 10 certified rms watts!! Now its time for the .8 test or better yet the half ohms test. I know it will hit 2500 rms at half ohms. Very simaler to the more expensive CAB amp.
.8 ohm tests it had a solid red clip light the entire run, not really a valid test so it was omitted.
@@Facekicker I see in that case I think I like that CAB amp better. Tell you what amp I'm thinking of getting next is that JP 23. I'm sure it will do half ohms and it put out more continuous rms watts. Do you think that is a good amp for my 2 Soundqubed 18s dule 2 ohms subs?? If not witch amp would you recommend?? For $499 or less. $500 is my limit.
@@RyanBassForLife I'm a Taramps fan myself, but of the amps you mentioned... Yeah, the JP23 is solid.
@@Facekicker thanks just finally got a Rockville dB comp 5 last month that never worked so I had to take it back not sure why it never would work but I'm mad about it.
Can you do the power acoustic caliber 8000?
I'll check availability and cost 👍
kool lets do it now 10000 really
As I said before same as cab more or less. I’d buy this over cab for sure. Only big dummies throw away money.
Man I been running power acoustic for years they are reliable for the money you pay for it . I still have a a3000db and it works perfectly .
I got a question. Do you set the gain on the amp like you would if its in a vehicle in between changing the ohm load on the dyno so that way the output voltage is right? Cause I don't see any of you doing that just changing ohm load.
So let's say if it is 2000 rms at 2ohms you multiply that by the 2 ohms which would be 4000 then find the square root which is around 63.2 volt output to create the 2000 rms etc. Ect. To me it don't make since to change the ohm load and not adjust gain in between to match what it says its rated at
The amp will be set to max clean power no matter what load it sees - how much power varies as a result of impedance, but that won't change or impact where the gain setting should be.
@@Facekicker i understand that of the impedance which is why I ask....say it says 2000 rms at 2 ohms you have to multiply that times the 2ohm load then find square root of that which is 63.2 using a digital multimeter to set gain so if I went to 1ohm and at a 1ohm load is 3000 rms the 63.2 would be to high cause multiplying 3000 by a 1ohm is 3000 and the square root of that volt output is 54.77 so if I left it at 63.2 it would clip my subs/amp right? I just really don't understand how the dynos work does it simulate like being in a vehicle or different?
@@willpollard1110 the voltage output of your amp will change relative to the resistance on the outputs, but if you leave input voltage the same and don't change your gain, the amp won't be driven into clipping.
If you gain the amp to max clean with a 2 ohm speaker, but then put a 4 ohm speaker on it, the amp will put out lower ACV because of a higher resistance load.
It won't clip, as long as it was set clean to begin with.
If you then put a 1 ohm speaker on the amp, the ACV will increase as a result of a lower resistance load, but again it won't be clipping.
@@willpollard1110 the only difference on the dyno vs a vehicle, is that when connected to a subwoofer or speaker and powered, impedance will rise above the wired impedance. On the dyno there is no rise, it is a static load.
@@Facekicker ok so how would I find max clean power of the amp would I use the rms times the 4 ohm load which has the highest voltage output as a guideline to get close to max clean power, I only have a digital multimeter and don't have access or funds to get anything to detect clipping/distortion
Do u recommend this amp for two 12s
Honestly I don't. I'd seek out a Smart3k, CT2000, or Ruthless 2300 if it were me.
Imagine them saying that this Amp is a 4k Rms amp it would sell well and it would be the truth imagine that.
Do a soundstream 14.3k or if u know about this amp please do tell.
Don't matter I won't use any other amp for p.a. But the razer amps they are small tanks!!!@1ohm tho
dynamic burst @ 1ohm the vertigo did 4884 watts compared to 2900 for the cab22 ...where do you come up with that the cab 22 is superior ?
By watching the distortion light
Its lit up 3x as much on the Vertigo - meaning the Vertigo is over 1% distortion at times it isn't clipping, where the CAB only showed distortion at the clip point.
Distortion is overrated.. Most people can't hear bass distortion until around 5 to 10%
@Matthew McLean yes.. The pure heat of 5000 Watts,. Distortion at 5 -10 % don't kill coils....square waves kill coils.... Distortion and clipping are way different things... those were the old days, when people were square waving woofers for hours at car shows with 300 watt amps ...I don't have much respect for people who live at the clip point anyway??? They should just buy more woofers and another amp like this and master slave stack the amps for 8000 RMS
@Matthew McLean btw this amp is completely FN badass!! For those idiots who don't believe me can buy a JL or "blah blah blah"... For 4 times the price AND no improvement in performance or cleanliness.... Since I design amps for a living.... For the idiots who just wanna set thier money on fire, Buy a Rockford FOSGATE T4000.....I respect that amp also and this vertigo 10000...
@Matthew McLean Matthew thank you sincerely for trying to help me!! ... That makes you very cool!!! All "Watts" are not the same..."damping factor" plays a significant role...
I design and make high power amplifiers for the military... 4x the price I was talking to nubes who suck JL or Rockford dick....I have taken apart tramps on many occasions..... It's ok... But the tramp has no bass below 34 hz sad to say the vicious cutoff begins there....the 3k /3khd are massive power at 100 hz but I don't like the massive slooping bass cutoff.... i just installed a tramp 8k in friends car and had to redo the entire electrical... Tramp says it needs 800 ampere.. But the 4 batterys said prolly allot more!! All the undervolts and clip lights kept flashing.... Eventually 4RV Batts calmed it down... This power acoustic 10000 amp is flat to 4 hz.... Maybe deeper.. My laboratory is UNITED STATES MILITARY STANDARD flat to 3 hz...I listen to electronica rave pure digital down to 5 hz in the car... For me life begins sub 30 hz...I actually tried the tramp 3k last year in my personal car and it was very dissapointing although at 100hz i measured was putting out 4200WRMS CLEAN!!!.... Pure beefy class D is better topology than the tramp or stetsom or Banda panda bear...btw use reducers on your tramp because they get batt.. input wire super hot!!!! Just for fun you try a RF T2500BD....see what " real" power supplys and inefficient beast beefy design does....Orion HCCA 3000!!! Terrifying!!
Can you test a corzus amp I just bought a corzus 10,000 watt my audio guy told me to run 4 positives and grounds for when it’s really hitting I can definitely tell a huge difference from my zstreet 6k
The previous amps we've had from Corzus all experienced catastrophic failure when tested under 2 ohms.
We're told they're revising some models, we should be testing those soon.
@@Facekicker oh damn I’m gonna be hooking mine up to my new sundown x18 v3 when I get it and it’s a dual 1 ohm I hope it makes it mines a revolution 10k with dual positives and grounds
@@therandomrobert1842 Don't wire under 1 ohm.
Also that amp is capable of 1000a+ of current draw, make sure you have appropriate battery reserve and wiring.
have you tesred this amp? Akozon 70dB Black Car Audio Power Amplifier from amazon
It’s really weird it was only a watt or two from cert and uncert but more than doubled only at one ohm dynamic!?!?
I feel you may have a defective amp maybe🤷♂️ I wonder if they are using the same fets? Could be a big difference.
Its the way he test watch other vids same weird results
@@TheSjb1000 explain how it should be done differently?
I can't control how the amp behaves.
Working on getting it replaced, but I get the feeling it's not gonna be any different with a different amp of same model.
@@Facekicker probably not. If it is the same I would be willing to bet they went with a much cheaper fet. Everything else looks the same.
@@Facekicker I guess the PCB traces could be much thinner. Just kinda crazy/cool to see pretty similar amps with such a big variation.
Hi bro nakamichi 1000.1 test yaparmısın
Not bad for a $199.00 amp
Do you have any amps that you would like to sell? I'm looking for at least 2500 true watts. Thanks man
I do have a ton of amps for sale, drop me a contact form submission on my website at www.jonessubwoofersolutions.com
They still sell these I'm getting one can they be strapped
They still sell them, and they're strappable, but my personal thoughts are to find something with a cleaner output signal - this amp had signal noise present throughout testing.
Should I get this or the edge 10000
I'm not a fan of this one
Haven't seen the Edge model
Not bad... they should call it vertigo 4k...if u getting more than 1000 rms ...for 100 dollar not bad...idk how much it cost but is power acoustik so I knw is not too pricey
I was voting for 2250 @ 1ohm. It did better but I still wont buy an amp that's rated less than half what they print on the heatsink.
Different MOSFETs they do all the heavy lifting pa uses old weaker fets and cab uses newer better fets it's that simple
Seems to be true, but there were some quirky behaviors the VA1 had that the CAB did not, and I don't think it was just a difference in fets.
Would this amp be good to power 2 12 mofo subs
Hell yeah
Honestly it done what the 8k version was supposed to do on certified lol
2k for 145 dollars seems like a good deal to me where else can you get 2,000 w for 145 dollars not too many places
Includes free distortion too
Isn’t that glitchy counting up an indicator of dirty power ?
Yes, see the note I highlighted from Tony Damore, it's in description and in video.
@@Facekicker so in reality the amp would most likely roast your subs trying to get the power out of it seen on the dyno with that being said I bet the CAB 22s components are better and built with higher tolerances
That is my thoughts exactly.
You should try half ohm
Protect mode
I think itll do 1825 or 2230
1633 certified at 1ohm, without looking!
No its over 2k for $200 That my friend is a unicorn. This amp is a budget gem💎 4000rms if you hook 2 together that is 10 rms continuous watts a dollar!!
Ryan bass for life, this is the most powerful epilson amp I've ever seen tested!, Sure wasn't expecting this!!!
Where the hell did that dynamic power come from? I feel like you should’ve re-done that five times in a row. Considerably more than double dynamic compared to uncertified. I’ve never seen that. Strictly based on looking at the guts of the amp it looks like it should be able to do 4500-5000 W.
Never seen it either. Not sure if I was clear enough in the video, but this amp was trouble the whole time.
Distortion light is on the majority of the time, certified runs wouldn't record the first few attempts because of it. Runs under 1 ohm kept the distortion light on solid.
I delayed the video by a week trying to sort it out, only to realize the amp is the perfect example of "dirty power."
I was surprised by that dynamic result, and honestly I don't put much weight on dynamic results.
I'm trying to get it replaced, if a new amp performs without any quirks I'll upload a new video. I get the feeling nothing will change however.
@@Facekicker you edited well. Video came out good. From the internals on the amp I can see it has dynamic headroom, but not that much. Lol. I would have expected at 1 ohm 3500-3600 certified. 4500 dynamic.
It did better than the cab
dbcomp4?
We did the 5, the Comp4 seems to be unobtanium.
I really don't understand this review, when you looked at the 4 ohm and 2 ohm performance, you kept saying something is wrong and "it's definitely no cab22" but it ran the exact same wattage... I don't get it. You also had weird issues with the cab22 where you kept having to restart the test, so this just seems to be some weird bias going on here, as the amps perform the same and appear to be the same on the inside...
This had the distortion light lit up 99% of the time, inferring that even during normal use outside of maximum output you'd still be over 1% distortion.
The cab had some odd characteristics also, but it did not have the constant distortion present.
I would imagine quality control and components themselves come into play.
Notice how the power acoustik has more mosfets yet doesn’t perform like the cab 22 that’s odd 🤔
It's got the distortion light glowing 10x more than the CAB also
Very strange… but hey man I just ordered a replica amp of both this amp and the cab 22 from alibaba. It was 80 dolllars for the amp which is mind blowingly cheap but the damn shipping is where it sucks ass but over all it was 160 for the amp so I will post a video of it and tell me what you think!
If anyone has a d1-6000d demon series 2 lmk a part inside it popped when my friend hooked it up for me took it to get it fixed guy said its a doorstop im looking for one to match my other demon 1200 4 ch next to it. edit : its red with the skull glowing eyes
So it is 10k watts?
Far from it
@@Facekicker which one would you think is better poweracoustc 6k monoblock. Or this 10k
Substandard parts
My guess it'll do 1800 watts or less
This amp was like $150 when it came out
Yes and it's worth every penny
Nice, thanks bro! I'd say maybe if that amp was allowed 3% distortion like some Brazilian amps I could see it doing some way better numbers... Awesome review tho...
Issue with that is the Brazil amps are completely different. We are talking full vs half bridged. Honestly I wouldn't run one of those arc welders if you gave it to me, I don't like electrical fires. A half bridged amp fails and there is smoke and worst case Ontario some fire....a full bridged fails it will pop, throw sparks, shoot fire like a torch and burn your car down.....no Bueno Papi 😏
@@robsorgdrager8477 Not sure what you read. I wouldn't use a full bridge if I was paid too. Learn to read "Papi"
@@robsorgdrager8477 no they start on fire cause people are retarded and don't fuse their shit. Full bridge vs half bridge has nothing to do with it, nor does Brazilian. The problem is the cheaper price tags makes it so people who shouldn't run that kind of power (or lack thereof) don't know how to run them. They don't know that it takes that much electrical to supply them (hence my lack thereof comment) . they throw sparks because the components are much more powerful so when they go bang, they bang with more force.
The reason "Brazilian" amps are 3% like that is because they are full range, not because they are full bridge.
Many alpine, jbl, JL and kicker amps are full bridge
@@commonsenseisdeadin2024 The next person under my comment to say Brazilian has to get a Brazilian wax. I never said anything referring to them besides the fact that if this amp was tested at 3% distortion then it may produce better numbers on the dyno.
Dam power acoustik needs to get those fat red wires off of the mosfets they gonna get hot burn thru that outter shielding of the wire thats just a bad layout with that wire.