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- THE GENII: A secretive and militaristic society, the Genii endured generations of persecution at the hands of the Wraith. This drove their society underground, where they could advance technologically - and develop weapons of war in the hopes of one day striking back against their enemy ...
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Solid work, but there was one small inaccuracy. Acastus Kolya was not sent to take Atlantis, and was only sent to raid it for materials & tech. Kolya's power grab began with him attempting to take the city to increase his own personal standing with the Genii.
When even Miles O'Brien couldn't make a civilization advance fast enough to kill Wraiths, you know you're fucked.
The writers in SGA just didnt make him suffer enough.
Jaysus it's cause keiko wasn't there
@@jgobroho I knew I'd find this comment 😂
The Genii added a really nice element to the Atlantis universe. I always liked that this villain group was not a technologically advanced alien race, but less advanced humans that were still an imposing force in the Pegasus galaxy and a real threat to the Atlantis team.
yea it was really refreshing that they couldnt just pull some new magic devise out of their asses like some others. not that those are bad necessarily, but it gets old after a while.
atlantis vs genii was more a battle of wits than a battle of technology.
Only problem I have is how they're supposed to be this super secret civilization, no one outside of the Genii themselves and I suppose maybe a very select few people was supposed to have known about them yet for some reason they seem to be very well known throughout among the stars. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@erikkarlsson9192 their strength, other than military ones, are their network of spies. So they have to develop their reputation and relations with other worlds.
@@erikkarlsson9192 That's not what they say in the show or what was the case though? As a people they were never a secret.
No one outside the Genii knew of their underground advanced civilization. They were known as a group of simple farmers to their trade partners. This is how Teyla explains them at the start of the episode we meet them.
Wrong.
I can only see O'Brian after watching Star Trek TNG & DS9 😅😄
What happened to that poor guy after being tortured the million times on DS9. Screwed him so bad in other universes the effect was felt
@@gups4963
O’Brien got a teaching job at the academy in ds9 finale. I bet Kako was thrilled.
Then never, ever watch the brilliant 1991
Alan Parker Irish Blues film, 'The Commitments'.
Saw Colm "O'Brian" Meaney in the thumbnail, had to watch it.
Would recognise that forehead anywhere.
I love a good protagonist outwits antagonists story, but sometimes I just wanna see some shock and awe. I would've loved to see the Genii shitting themselves and being humbled by the sight of BC-304s, F-302s, and the plethora of Asgard tech Atlantis has at its disposal. I would've loved an episode where the guys on Atlantis finally snapped and had some BC-304s beam out the Genii's Stargate as a show of force.
Put it conveniently in orbit. "We didn't 'take' it, we just moved it a little. We could've done a lot more … but we're supposed to be on the same side here. We're sure it's gonna take you just a few years to figure out how to move it back, and hopefully that'll be just long enough for you guys to think about maybe treating your neighbors just a little better.
Genii always were one of my favorite human civilization in Stargate in general and my favorite in Atlantis. They were cunning, resourceful and reckless.
So.....American?
@@skepticalmagos_101 every people who are cunning are not automatically American. They are more than them in the world.
The Atlantis expedition and genii could of had a good alliance if it was done right, Atlantis could provide knowledge, technology and medical etc and genii could provide nukes, food and ammo etc and both went on trips together fighting the wraith
@@tylersoto7465 I'm not sure an alliance between Atlantis and the Genii would have gone that way. Weapons and nukes from Earth are way more advanced and more powerful than what the Genii could offer. But, they can provide additional troops and their network of spies all over the Galaxy could have be a real asset.
I love how they were always a pain in the ass, always getting in the way, Humans should have just hyperdrived to their homeworld and beamed the gate off the surface.
i likey them for it was as anoying to them as the humans must have been anoying to the gua'uld
The Genii, that civilization that couldn't develop a nuke even with Chief O'Brien on their ranks.
The Genii's biggest flaw is that they frequently push their paranoia into actively counterproductive levels. They are frequently so convinced the other party is going to stab them in the back that the Genii think going for the backstab first is the most logical choice, which (even if it works) gives them a short-term (and possibly temporary) gain at the cost of getting a reputation as untrustworthy pariahs.
Gould weakness was their arrogance.
Lucian alliance greed.
Genii Paranoia.
The Best episode with the Genii in my opinion is the one with the storm because it feels like die hard with John decimating their troops like a McClaine
It basically was die hard it was awesome, but common ground gave us Todd so
The Genii were at the center of one of my favorite SGA episodes: Common Ground. 🥰🥰🥰 I love to hate them!
Good well written bad guys are like that.
I always liked that with the screens of Genii devices you could practically feel the headache-inducing high pitch hum just outside of proper hearing range of the cathode-ray tube displays and the X-ray radiation emit close at close range by when working.
Got to be honest… I was getting a little burnt out on the Genii and the Lucian Alliance.
I feel the same way, but it had to be this way, the stories we were given about them was meant to show that they were a smart strong and determined group of people.
The only real human rival and potential friends we have in that galaxy.
The premise of the Lucian alliance that by us eliminating the Goa’uld their worlds suffered didn’t sound realistic. Goa’uld don’t take care of any of the human worlds. They cull them for hosts and use them as slaves. They don’t feed them or anything.
@@2bituser569 if you are looking at them from the perspective of a normal society then yes that would make it seem like the premise is flawed but in reality,
the Goa'uld were rulers, while they did not provide any democracy, they provided order, everyone had a purpose, people were slaving for them and nobody was above anyone else, while they may not have brought food from planet to planet to make sure there was enough food for everyone, most people had a share, the weak died or were killed which allowed more food to go around.
when they were gone the order they provided disappeared, the strong among the humans took what they wanted without concern for the weak, gangs must of started to fight amongst themselves for more power.
the point is, it's hard to create a governing body when you have never had one, especially when you all have been slaves all your lives, you don't trust anyone to govern over you, as it was shown in the Lucian alliance, they behaved much like the gods that ruled them, if you were an alliance leader and you were too weak in the eyes of the other leaders it was accepted that factions would form against you and take over your territory.
let's not forget that joining the Lucian alliance is not an option, kids are taken and made into soldiers, you can also imagine this being the case from the very formation of the gangs on those individual planets, if you want to eat, you better join my gang.
so in conclusion the power vaccum left by the Goa'uld created a state of constant war among the freed slave humans.
very realistic if you look at our own history, very human, very predictable.
@@SuperMIKevin
I agree with many points but one. We usually do see leadership on these slave serf worlds. Abydos had Sha’re’s father and presumably others below him when Ra was normally absent for a few generations. I would assume their lifespans were likely shorter like 40-50’s like it was about 100 years in most countries. There would be a generation or two that never had the experience of seeing Ra return. My impression these worlds pretty much ruled themselves for most part. Sure they come and grab some for hosts or naquada miners or to make more Jaffa as needed if populations got low due to wars.
My fan theory is that Travelers and Genii are the same civilization. The Travelers were remnants of the fleets they used to hold their confederation together and the Genii were the planet based people that went underground.
Interesting! I like it, given the very long history of the Genii civilization.
The army and navy falling apart. Makes sense. Like when new caprica fell in BSG
SF-1 should relocate the Geni to the Rand Protectorate’s planet and just sit back and watch these two friendly peaceful cultures co-exist lmao
I have mixed feelings about the Genii. They had great potential, but were underutilized.
I never considered the Genii as threatening, they just were too backward technologically to pose a credible threat to the Atlantis forces. They could only succeed when extreme measures were taken to nerf the good guys. Realistically if they were a sufficient threat the Deadalus could park in orbit and obliterate them unopposed with plasma beams and the transporters.
The SGC has moral and ethics tho (for the most part).
They wouldn’t nuke a world full of civilians so this option would never be seriously considered short of apocalyptic circumstances.
@@KalashVodka175 but they could nuke their gate lol
@@BL33NB Even better the SGA team could just steal their stargate, they aren't space capable so they'd be screwed and cut off from there off world allies.
@@BL33NB Or just steal it with their Asgard beaming tech.
@@DLordSadow Yes. They underused that tech so hard lol
The Genii: the biggest pain in the ass in the Pegasus Galaxy somehow
Lol I wonder if they ever did get their hands on some C4.
They did more or less.
In the episode where Sheppard gets sent forwards through time, the holograph of rodney explains what happened to the rest of the people.
In one story he explains a small strike team stormed a Genji base and uncovered some C4.
They got some great starfleet engineers.
Atlantis should just beam out genii Stargate. That would essentially defeat them for centuries
Well done. Thank you.
The Genii remind me of the post Soviet Union by the design of their uniforms. The destruction of their confederacy was equivalent to the breakup of the Soviet Union into Russia and smaller states.
The people that made the concept of a "harvest festival" seem like a threat!
Great video
Hmm, I just realized they kind of repurposed Sora into Ginn from Universe. (The look, and the general starting point of the character. She was developing along different lines of course.)
Stargate ❤️
Good ole Chief O’Brien. Best part no Kako.
I love videos like this.
Thanks for watching, Sam! We have new Omnipedia videos every Wednesday.
Never realized Stargate used so many Star Trek actors till I watched Deep Space 9
Colm Meany is from star Trek tng and deep space 9
@@TABREGO1965 well yes, that much is quite obvious. But there are quite a few other recurring and non-recurring actors as well. One of the jaffa from the rebellion played a Klingon, the alien clone emissary from the terraforming race played a random scientist in DS9 etc etc etc
YOU FORGOT ABOUT JOLENE BLALOCK WHO PLAYED T'POL ON ENTERPRISE
@@TABREGO1965 I believe that was included under etc
The actor who played Odo was in an episode of sg1, as was Marina Sirtis. The actor who played Tucker in Enterprise was in Atlantis. The actor who played the EMH on Voyager and First Contact was in both SG1 and Atlantis as Richard Woolsey. You also had a lot of actors from The X-Files and even one or two from star wars (James Earl Jones did the voice of an Unas). The actor who played the T-1000 in terminator 2 and a character in The X-Files appeared in the first episode of Atlantis.
The Lucian Alliance on SGU reminded me of them
Lucian Alliance is just a mafia in space with ships. They are criminals. The Genii are a civilisation with a long history. And, even with the immorals actions they have committed in the past (after all, every nation had skeletons in their closet) they are more than the group of thieves that are the Lucian.
They were known throughout the galaxy for their beans? 🤨 How good are the beans? What could be so great that they would be know _throughout the galaxy._ 🤔 You'd think that if the Genii were that well-known, they'd have had some support from some people to help them fight the Wraith or move to another world or something.
Well they used the Stargate for trade, and for generations a chief Genii export was tava beans. I can't vouch for how good they actually are ... but if you slid a cup of hot tava coffee in front of me I would try it. 😉
They did have help mostly in the form of a large network of spies.
A rural pre-industrial society managed to grow enough food to support a secret underground society AND have enough surplus to trade. These Tava beans must have been spectacular crops, perhaps like rice in China they could double harvest, perhaps even triple harvest.
Mhm tava beans lol
Laden turned out to be a decent leader for the Genii - he was forward thinking and less stubborn and was willing to accept the crew of Atlantis were just willing to help, just for the sake of improving relations between them and the Genii.
Ah my least favourite people in Pegasus. I even prefer the wraith over them XD
They are a very good villain group.
Nice to see Colm Meany. 🙂
I hated the Genii -- no lamps, no puffs of smoke, no 3 wishes, no Major Anthony Nelson...do I really need to go on?
@1:55 oh my gawd, never recognised him..
It's tragic how the Genii could have easily been staunch allies of the Tauri, but having lived a secretive subterranean life for so long meant they were too aggressive and mistrustful towards outsiders.
Give them 100 years and they could have beat the wraith by themselves tbh
Not really, their radiation exposure was bad.
They didn't have enough shielding on their reactors.
They had no way to attack the wraith that were in space.
Building a ship is not easy, even more so one with FTL ability, If any wraith found out what is happening they will do to the Genji what they did to Satida or the Hoffan.
All it takes is 1 genji being caught by the wraith during a strike for their entire secret to be exposed.
Won't lie: only clicked on this because Chief Miles O'Brien was in the thumbnail.
GENII are a very interesting race and Kolya is the best villain in the whole stargate.
In Atlantis, or the entirety of Stargate?
@@Trig0r If I thought Atlantis, I would say Stargate Atlantis
@@michalrama Baal, head and shoulders above Kolya, dont get me wrong, good character and actor, but not the best villain..
@@Trig0r Well, the biggest influence was Robert Davi, who portrayed Koly's character perfectly (it's a pity he didn't have more space). Baal is also good (RIP Cliff Simon). However, without his "demonic" voice, he doesn't seem dangerous at all. But, it was still a good villain. And not just him, of course. Stargate has always had a problem with the script of positive characters, not negative ones.
In all Stargate, Anubis was the best villain to me, with Baal a close second (Rip Cliff Simon, you were a great actor and a good guy). In Atlantis, they never identify a clear nemesis. It was almost every time the specie in the whole, and not an individual. The only ones I could really identify are Michael and Kolya.
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Prosecution? You mean being fed on like cattle??
Now..... I feel like a wraith whenever I munch on a burger... Thanks 😂
what about those genii computers? yes they have crts but can display what appears to be rendered polygons. That's very 90's graphic processor, but on a green phosphorous screen. Are there more info about those? they could even interface with wraith computers too
The Genii were a really believable group. Their actions and wants and desires seem very realistic and they were a good enemy
Damn I didn’t know O’Brien was in here
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️👍👍
Be a great separate series
military chief "cowan"
I think you mean the great miles O'Brien, obviously!
That was the geniis own undoing. They lost a good ally with Atlantis by not accepting that even the best planned missions can go tits up.
Accepting that the lost person is a price for valuable intel on your enemy and the development of an ally equally looking to defeat your enemy would have made a much better move.
In the series because they're tech was so many decades behind earths they were more a pest than anything else. The wraith were always forefront as the baddies until their defeat.
Their arrogance and sense of entitlement did not help. Their inflexibility led to the hostile relations.
en el episodio golpe de estado de la temporada 2 cuando el equipo de atlantis es secuestrado por los yenain cuando querían robar un zpm y los matarían amenos que les dieran diez saltadores antiguos por que no llamaron a dedaluz para que fuera al planeta de los yenain y los amenazara de que si no les regresaban al equipo de atlantis destruirian su ciudad con armas asgard
Interresting, frist time I hear the pronounciation - in German they were called the Gane-e
My friends and I call the Genii Meany's meanies.
Wow for me the two leaders are: Miles O'Brien and Henry Foss, I watch way to much sci-fi shows lol.
Aliens don't trust their own shadows.
Why didn't O'Brien make the nuke? He should have been able to do so blindfolded
Dem uniforms are kinda cool.
viggo mortensen's brother lol
But WHY are they called Genii?>
Am I the only one that thinks they brought in Robert Davi because Tommy Lee Jones was not available?
provided they spoke the truth about their history
Goonies bad guy always a bad guy 😂
4:41 German flag upside down
It would have been easy for Genii just to require some old earth physics books or basic 1960-70 old tech but they didnt.. its the writers again and the topic of a fairy story just as disney do. So stargate personel went to a another galaxy without any material who present who the are and human history or did the writers forget?
genii r mean
Erin Chambers...so hot.
I hated the genii with a passion
Genii = Soviets in Space.
So, the real world. You know, sputnik, Yuri gagarin, Mir...
They did have Soviet feel to them
Anybody else get 1940s USSR vibes?
We are making a super weapon it will end the war, oh yeah we have tons of those. It will not be enough, no seriously. Do you guys live down here? We have spent generations down here.. hmmm well, your radiation shielding sucks
Genii: space Germans
The GENII are much like the USA
Opposite of the tollan.... Overly cynical and secretive despite being outdone in technology
i always hated the Genii. and the training scenes of Kolya are laughable.
I just found the faction purely annoying and boring in the series.
But where's Madaam Belly-Shirt??? Gosh what a horrible character the writers should be ashamed.