I am afraid that in an era with ESG investors, we can get only some #######, with a lot of insults to consumers.-------- Edit: Sam Carter will be replaced with a castrated man and it will be discovered that it was secretly Sam who found the 7th symbol to connect to Ebydos. Tealc will get a couple of episodes dedicated to the gay romance between him and Jack ONeal, also Jakc will be black from now. And Daniel Jackson will have his IQ lowered to 50 and will become really annoying illogical and generally interfere with the performance of tasks.
Above all other things, this. Respect your forebears, respect what they have created, and don't try to reinvent things that don't need reinventing. If at any point anyone at all thinks they can get away with anything but the utmost respect for what came before, and utmost respect for the fans, I'm not interested.
Don't worry, MGM and Amazon are spinning things up and if not at ComiCon, it'll only be a matter of months before they announce the new series. Then give it a year to film and produce. The wait is almost over, finally!
if they mess it up and put that dreaded final nail in Id rather they'd didn't bother. Im getting on too my friend and want my final trip thru the gate to be a happy one. I have that now
The original SG was a lightning in a bottle situation. You need to get all the right actors together with the right writers and directors. It's a hard act to follow.
heres the thing brad wright the og writer had it lined up. many of the cast from sg1 and atlantis said they would come back. amanda tapping (carter) said she wanted to direct a few episodes. the story was that many from sg1 and atlantis would come together to get the people from stargate universe home. that was the plan pitched and accepted by amazon. problem is word behind the scene was amazon scrapted that script and are doing something else. what ever they are doing is going to be hard to beat that for me.
I remember one of my favourite tv shows in the 80's The A-Team. My fav character, Mr T. Watching as an adult a year ago, it did not quite have the same feel as before, simply because my teenage emotions are pretty different to my adult emotions. I mean, MacGyver, it was amazing to turn a ball of string into a "super cable" lol, it was fun been a kid. (care free)
Here is why I like Stargate SG-1 and Atlantis and Universe: - The team composition and character development - Earth's sensible technology progression that was influenced in subtle ways by discoveries the teams made using the gate - The mysterious remnants of the Ancients and their accompanying philosophy - The Asgard - The Jaffa culture and politics - International Earth politics revolving around the stargate - A few light-hearted comedy episodes - A few conspiracy episodes
Today if if was made they would be fighting to see who could be the biggest pervert on a death spiral to the bottom with ZERO hope, progress to a BETTER life and play make believe women are men. Absolutely NO ONE would watch.
Actually heroic and likeable characters in fantasy situations = good show. Unlikable selfish jerks in terrible situations = stressful show. Poorly written overly sanitized characters in situations run past test audiences = boring show. SG1 and Atlantis; likeable characters fantasy situations. Memorable characters and scenes. Loved by many and quite successful. BSG remake and SG Universe; selfish unlikeable jerks in grim dark setting. Few to no heroes. Easily forgotten. Modern Star wars and Star Trek; checks boxes, made by committees for shareholders and marketing executives. No positively memorable characters or originality.
after seeing what corporate greed did to Star Wars, LOTR, Marvel, ghostbusters, Jurassic park, etc......I'd pay them to NOT make a new Stargate show. How many more beloved franchises do we have to watch them exhume and desecrate? Tolkein was right "Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin what good forces have invented or made."
The single most important thing is that some of the old production/writing crew MUST be involved: Brad Wright, Joe Mallozzi, Martin Gero, Robert Cooper. Otherwise I have ZERO trust that whatever some other group of writers/producers comes up with will not be true to the original intent and style. See the vast majority of new Trek for an example of what I am referring to, or Star Wars for more evidence.
From the sounds of things, Brad Wright might be kept at arms length. Also, you need to consider that the IP needs to move on and be appealing to newer generations of people to survive and thrive, which may mean the formula and even the writers need to be different to be successful. Using the same formula as before could mean death for the franchise if it doesn't pull in the younger generations that have never seen older SG series before. While I agree with your sentiment, times change and at the end of the day it is a business and hard facts like a new viewer base may mean it might not be to your taste. Let's hope they walk that fine line well!
@@Mark_Williams. " the IP needs to move on and be appealing to newer generations" That's exactly how we got things like "Star Trek Discovery", "Picard", "The Rise of Skywalker", "The Acolyte" Yes some are financially successful, but none are as successful as the original material.
@@dogsbd Agreed, however like those two franchises, times have changed and SG needs to also adapt. The big two have failed at it so far for the most part and I fear SG may fall into the same trap. The franchise needs to survive without the original series staff because at some point they simply won't be around anymore. Let's hope they find the right formula!
@@Mark_Williams. You can have amazing content that is adapted to a modern generation without becoming utter slop. The Orville is a good example of a modern quality sci-fi show.
Stop the friggin reboots and continue with the story without woking the sht out it. I wanna see earth how it has evolve with Asgard tech 15+ years later. Is that so hard to ask for?
Yep...if it's a reboot, absolutely not interested. I'm not saying the same characters have to be present (obviously the SG-1 actors are getting up there in age - cameos would still be nice), but it absolutely has to take place in the same continuity.
@@BBBrasil I loved SGU. People say it was trying to copy Battlestar galactica, but for me battlestar galactica is way worse (I watched 2 seasons of it, to be sure)
Stargate - Ancients. Focuses on the gatebuilders on Earth as they incent the gate and use it to populate and explore the Milky Way. The Astard & Nox could be part of the meta arch of the story.
Depends on who writes it. Stargate was set in our time, there’s no reason to leap into the future, unless it only happens on other planets. Universe was way too dark for me and Ai never bought into the characters nor did I buy the DVDs. Let’s not go dark again. The world is already dark enough, we need light-hearted, humorous adventures, so casting will need to have the right chemistry for that to work well. David Hewlett would be up for a role, just ask him! Joe Flanagan too.
So heartedly agree. Only way it could be done is it has to be fan based. Any involvement with Hollywood producers and big media corporations will on poison Stargate. It would have to be grassroots funding and have the Stargate community in order to have any hopes of it being good.
I would be curious and hopeful, but considering how poorly other successful franchise properties have been handled in recent times, my expectations are extremely low. I'm generally not a fan of reboots, but whatever I am watching I need to enjoy it
Tucker Carlson has made a very valid point recently the people that run things (government, industry, entertainment you name it) cannot make anything as good as their predecessors did, they know it and they hate it so they instead ruin and destroy what their predecessors made.
Regarding poll 2, I answered with option 2, but would have preferred an option that was something along the lines of "Guest appearances are fine, but I would also be fine with old cast members coming back full time as their original characters."
These series starting with Stargate SG-1 were the best sci-fi series I have ever seen (I am 64 years old and as a small child I watched almost EVERYTHING in the sci-fi genre!) I wish with all my heart the resumption of the production of these magnificent series !
Me too! I am 70, and I just love the advances in cinematic technology. While people are debating the new Dune movie, I am sitting in the theatre thinking wow this is so amazing. We have come a long way from watching series on a black and white, and very small television screen.
And the show still continues to take in young audience. That´s how important it is to keep the style and spirit of SG1. SGA was a little darker sometimes, but still gave the audience what they wanted. They need to do a continuation, a next generation, with the existing cast in cameos, recurring and partially regular roles.
I feel like question #2 should have a 4th option that sounds something like: "I would like to see some former cast return full-time if possible in combination with guest appearances." Personally I don't NEED former cast to return, but I would like to see it. I feel like it would tie a new series to the established universe of Stargate for old fans, and I hope that could be done without making it hard to get into for any newcomers to the Stargate universe.
They are all very old now. The youngest cast members from the original cast may be able to come back as older command characters. Like Ben Browder as base commander, or shanks as a consultant. Bit they would be secondary characters, not action characters that you would see on screen most the time. Some actors have already passed due to age, for example Carmen argenziano (Jacob carter). Older actors like Richard Dean Anderson or Tony Amendola would be really hard to bring back full time.
I think it is a need. Everything else would just be disrespectful to the original actors. It´s the actors the audience want to see, they made the success, the audience connect their faces with the show. And it´s the writers stories the audience want to hear, so they better get the band back together there as well, as much as possible!
If its a continuation of the existing universe (new cast, mew stories, some rare cameos from old characters ) then yes. If its a reboot or alternate universe then its a hard no
You would have to destoy ships somehow. Or implement unlimited ZPMs for traveling to diferent galaxies. Because ships are super fast now it is ridicilouse. you can travel anywhere in our galaxy in few hours. Somebody eaven counted that we can reach SGU ship in few months.
3.) I would think making the Stargate public would be a stupid idea for the show. It would mean they would have to frequently address earth-based issues instead of exploring the universe. I don't need Stargate: CSI
I agree with the point but u have spawned an idea with "Stargate: CSI" but not based on what u said but rather a sort of inter-star system police/ investigation division founded by a treaty of earth with some alien civilisations with a base that's NOT on earth (similar to Atlantis). I know, i know this treaty sounds like Startreks federation but this division would be more investigators of crimes than explorers (yes, i can see how that can intersect which is also fine) .... However, the will villains within the world's in the treaty AND from outside the treaty. Thoughts?
My biggest concern is the new show not respecting the source material. The 2016 Ghostbusters movie is a prime example of this. If you took the main characters out, the Ghostbuster universe is inherently a horror movie. The comedy comes from the interaction of the characters and their world they find themselves in. With the 2016 movie, everything is slapstick comedy. The characters, the villain, the universe is all silly. Take the main characters out and the universe is still silly and slapstick. It doesn't take the concept of ghosts and the dead seriously. The newer Ghostbusters was, more or less, a return to the universe being a horror movie with comedic characters and that works. It's different than the original, but it respects the source material and theme and I'm ok with that. My fear is that the new Stargate show will run into the same problem. The new show could be a reboot on an alternate universe, which totally fits as it would leave open the possibility of original cast members making an appearance.
Yeah a SG resurrection that turns into something so anti-fan, anti-canon and anti-quality as Ghostbusters 2016 is exactly what I fear would happen. Even Sony is trying hard to forget that show ever existed, and rightfully so.
The newer ones are very respectful, if a new SG comes out, I hope it will like that. The all-female one was HORRIBLE and very disrespectful to the original canon. It might have been an okay movie on its own merits, but it was a horrible Ghostbusters movie.
A reboot would need to be absolutely stellar, especially because the new series would immediately face the challenge of having to live up to the old (nostalgia) while redoing several story-beats where we already know the outcome. It would have to start seperating from how things evolve right from Anubis first and second season. I would much rather that we would continue in established universe, even based from earth where a new growing threat / challenge might bring Humans and Goa-uld together to face it together, or splinter them seeing this as a new chance to take a shot at Earth. It'd be awesome to see a much big "splinter" group like the Tok'ra where many of them are allies but a bigger section is either undecided or enemy. Simply having glowy eyes might not be enough to decide if you face friend or foe. Bringing Atlantis and Earth together would be awesome, but definatly expensive for sets / actors / etc. And bringing in Universe would be awesome, personally loved the new take SGU did, but again that's a whole new set / group of actors. Maybe not in the first season, but something down the line? Tone should be more on the episodic side, SGU worked as grittier because of the story, stuck on an exploration ship. If based on Earth or likewise outpost there should certainly be a story over the season(s) but like SG1 keeping most things episodic or dual-episodes would almost feel refreshing at this point where all series nowaday are effectively X-part movies telling one single story.
So I always thought they could open a new plot using a cast that works well together (similar to sg1's) by visiting a new planet and accidentally unsealing some sort of tomb of another prime evil like being that ends up recruiting/controlling other factions trying to become to new dominant force in the universe
Reboots are tricky, so I would maybe give the first episode a chance but no guarantees. To capture the existing (and still thriving) Stargate Fanbase a continuation would be my preference and IMHO the safest choice to guarantee a successful launch.
Set a bit after SG Atlantis, the Nox decide to bring a team from the SG program to a new galaxy where the Furlings originated to investigate what happened. That would be my dream SG show.
Any new project should be in the same Universe and maintain all the lore already established. Absolutely do NOT need a re-boot. New actors and new locales and even a new style are all OK, but it needs to be part of the established whole already out there. A re-boot is the quickest way to absolutely ruin it all. Don't do it!
Too many of today’s writers/producers strive to subvert expectations which results in attempting to dismantle what has been established. This inevitably offends fans of existing material. In addition fun & entertainment gets lost due to an insistence on delivering “the message”. If they focus on telling great stories and avoid focusing on preaching (ie. SGU) I will give them a chance.
Yeah it will be terrible. There will be Jaffa that are black women, metaphors for LGBTQ people, and the main team will have a woman and black person for diversity.
@@adamsultana8380 That´s way too late. I tortured myself through almost half of the 1st season, every week you wait for new stargate and every time that crashing disappointment. That´s stealing peoples´time. I won´t watch a full bad season just for the promise that it gets better in the second. The moment´s gone. SGU is not Stargate for me, didn´t feel like it, not even a tiny merciful bit.
It worked like a charm and sgu is easily the best franchise has to offer. Because of people like you who blindly demanded the same stale sg1 and sga we never got to see more. Enjoy the drought you've created.
@@nopens It was not good and most people disliked it and it is you who clings to something that wasn´t good for the franchise. "people like me"? "Clings"? If you need insults, so you prove yourself wrong! I´m sorry that your preferences don´t agree with it, but the show did not belong into the franchise. If they wanted to make that show like it is, they should have done so outside the franchise. "People like me" are the stargate fandom. For what you want, you need another fandom, BSG or whatever. It´s simply not compatible.
I don't want a reboot. It was good as it lasted. SGU strayed from the SG1/SGA formula, it lost the old crowd, it got very few new ones. I want a moving forward Stargate. We have now the Asgard Core, X303's and X302's, we have Atlantis, we have lots of galactic friends that might have survived the Ori. The production have to devise a good villain. Since SGU formula sunk the franchise, the production has to devise something new or go with the old winning formula.
I would like to, but looking at whats being released every year, if it ever happens it's going to be a reboot that craps all over the original idea and would definitely focus on character feelings and metaphors for real world politics instead of delivering good scifi show first. I have my copies of movies, sg1, sga and sgu safely stored on several disks so they will never be retconned, censored or changed in any way, if another show comes up and it's not good i'll just ignore it.
I could see Amanda Tapping as the leader of the sgc in a new show. If that happened then I could see Michael Shanks and Christopher Judge being on the show at least a few times.
If it was more like SG1 or Atlantis, yes. If it was more like SGU, no. That was depressing and cold, and very little like SG1/Atlantis. There was no enthusiasm or wonder. Also, can them make it and not have it get super cringewoke? Because that's a deal breaker big time.
I have an idea that might work: they could do a TNG style show but set in the Stargate realm where it takes places years later (in our current present) where the Stargate program is known by the whole world, Earth has created a organisation that connects all the more organised world's to create a union of different human societies and follow different mythologies like Greek, Asian etc with lots of motifs with some characters from the previous shows making reappearance
Fourth question expansion: I wanted to like SGU, but I really only watched it because it was "Stargate"... there are plenty of drama shows, light-hearted and funny takes more actual talent.
So they better not turn it into something else. If you ask me, too much mentioning of that battlestar thing in the video. That is simply something completely different. We want Stargate!
Continuing with Atlantis ship on earth. Next generation, ie 30 years since Atlantis parked off the coast of California. As long as they don't have a shaking camera like they did on SGU, I could not watch the SGU episodes as I got migraines from the constant shaking.
If it was a continuation set in the same universe and didn't retcon anything from the show/movies, it stayed faithful to what Stargate was and maybe had cameos from original cast members, then I would watch it for sure. If it were a reboot or they changed things too much, made the show look and feel a bit too different than SG1, Atlantis and SGU, then probably not.
It has to have a similar “feel” to it. Stargate Universe lost some of that feel, to its detriment. Even at its darkest (like when SG1 went, literally, to hell) SG1 and Atlantis never took themselves too seriously. They knew they were a fun and somewhat cheesy sci-fi series, so while they told big stories with well written characters, they still gently winked at the audience with lines like “I thought we were going with Red Leader on this one”, “Sir, we can’t call it The Enterprise”, and from the pilot “it took us 15 years and 3 computers to MacGyver a system for the gate on Earth.” It was also, aside from the pilot movie and a couple of early episodes like Hathor, fairly family friendly. They even went back and removed the more family unfriendly moments from the pilot in its rerelease later on. This is something modern Star Trek has struggled with, with shows like Discovery and Picard showing extreme gore (Icheb) and very strong language (the f-bombs on Discovery are a far cry from Kirk’s “double dumb ass on you”). Star Trek seems to have realized this and Strange New Worlds seems to be largely avoiding it. Stargate Universe was notably less family friendly, especially early on, and I fear that this may have hurt its audience retention. I have two real fears with a new show. First, they try to actually pull off something like that “teen SG1” joke from the episode 200. Second, that they go the “Reboot: The Guardian Code” route and create a show with a very few ties to the original show other than a couple of names, where the showrunners actively dislike and take pains to mock fans of the original show. Having said this, changes are not inherently bad. SG1 is a very different beast from the movie and all the better for it. I love Stargate and I’m going to give whatever they put out a try. I just hope it’s a worthy follow up to the legacy that is already there.
I agree with almost everything you wrote. But if they actually are really that stupid to make a hard reboot, they can watch it themselves, I won´t. I want a continuation.
I was one of the harshest critics of SGU back then but i re-watched it recently and ... to my flabbergasted surprise... it was quite enjoyable. Perhaps i (or we as fans) may have been too harsh in retrospect.
@@shadowone01x99 I respect and agree that standpoints might be questioned and reassessed. But I really tried hard and made it through half a season and realized that I suffered. Life is too short, so I decided to use my time for something else. Anything. In those times, I didn´t even have DVD-boxes to console myself. But I could not bear to watch SGU. I had a really bad time, but I really tried. I really wanted Stargate to happen. But it simply wasn´t Stargate.
I agree, Stargate SG-1 and Atlantis were shows every generation of my family enjoyed, and I would want that to be true of any new addition, too. None of us watched Universe. It didn't feel like Stargate at all.
I’d try it, but given the state Star Wars and Star Trek, I’d just assume leave the franchise in the past. They were a product of their time and will always be entertaining, but with what studios inject into these IPs now, anything promising would be compromised due to studio interference.
4.) I think Stargate could pull off lighter and darker depending on the episode. Personally I would skew the needle to the darker side a bit. But we all enjoyed the time loop one where O'Neill was going crazy. I would call that a lighter one. Plus the Goa'uld we're a bit cheesy and Saturday morning cartoon evil. I might make them a bit more of a serious and intelligent threat than the punching bag they turned into in the later seasons.
You mention the Star Trek series but forget the modern reboots. Can we have both Strange New Worlds, and Lower Decks. I'd love a Stargate version of Lower Decks
Absolutely a new Stargate show would be amazing but also very difficult to get right as Stargate sg1 and Atlantis are two of my favourite shows of all time.
At this point I just want new stargate. I’d love it to be a continuation and have another spin off, like Atlantis 2.0. If it’s a hard reboot as long as it’s still about a secret military base so we don’t get too many earth episodes
Agree totally on getting tired of waiting. We’re all getting older too!! Let’s get going and bring on a good show that the fan base and newcomers will love. Thanks for the video!
I've tried watching SGU so many times and just can't get passed about 4 episodes. It's basically a soap. I'd be interested in a new story of gate discovery but from able World populated by humans. Similar to but not Earth.
Trust me. It’s gets MUCH better. I really disliked the start and by the end I was crying that it was over. The first 6 episodes really dragged on, but episode 8 was when I think the show picked up and got better and better. Season 2 is absolutely solid. Some welcome cameos too
@@jamesSevenAteNine Good to know. I keep wanting to watch it, purely because it's Stargate, but end up with 0 motivation to watch the next episode. Think at this point I've tried about 4 times. I'll give it another go.
Brad's idea with Daniel leading the team is the best by far. Brad should open up the first show, then others can take over later. Daniel would make a good Stargate Indy, with Sam as General, and frequent visits from any previous actor who wants to return.
So many stories: How about one where Jacks son comes looking for him through the Gates? (remember he spent some time on a planet trapped before they rescued him and at the end when he went home the love interest implied she was with child.
It's well known that Amazon-MGM use DEI (now called BRIDGE) based quotas in all their projects. This invariably lessens the quality of everything they make. I simply do not trust them to make something worthwhile. I'd love to be wrong. Yet I don't really want this last great piece of Sci-Fi I love to be "updated for a modern audience".
THANK YOU! I'll have to look into the BRIDGE thing. I've seen the name but I don't know what it stands for. But it'll be the same crap under a different acronym.
At this point I'll settle for anything, as long as it's well-written and stays true to the universe. There're many directions they could go with so much lore to build on.
I'd watch anything regardless, but have a preference of a continuation. Given the time that has pasted, I think reboot is the safest option to ensure success.
Stargate Universe was garbage. It was written and directer to be garbage. Do NOT repeat that. SG-1 and SGA had the right recipe. Sure, they were overusing plot armor, and magical science, and it wasn't perfect, but at the end of the day they were good, hopeful shows that had the right amount of humour, exploration, friendship, military stuff, action, sci-fi and whatnot. I do not trust that 2024 writers and the zeitgeist can make a good show. They could not make a good Star Trek show. They could not make a good LOTR show. They are failing all the marvel shows and movies, Doctor Who, Star Wars were destroyed, and so on. If they can not create a decently written non-woke show I would rather them not destroy this franchise as well....
I’m flexible but here’s my ideal: Continue the story,, but it’s now intergalactic scale. Original cast has guest appearances, the stargate is public knowledge, and stories include the former Ori galaxy, 9-chevron gating to a different Universe-class ship (maybe the star team mind-warps to help solve problems an explorer team encounters), visiting the Pegasus, finding an estranged Asgard faction in another galaxy. The tone needs to be upbeat, sci-fi optimistic, human-optimistic, and keep the angry protester type out of the main cast. I like the serial story format, awful struggles to overcome, but I want Cam Mitchell attitude.
it's a big reason I couldn't get more than two or three episodes into it. I remember my parents forcing themselves to watch it on streaming just to say they did. I have never seen my dad so irritable. I think SGU was too much of a departure from SG1 and SGA. Odds are if they kept in the camaraderie that SG1 and SGA had between their main characters, it would've landed differently. I really disliked them jumping into each other's beds (even when controlling some poor sap on Earth(!)) but I could deal with it if that was my only problem. I didn't like it in TNG either, but I dealt with it because the core cast weren't perpetually at each other's throats at the same time.
I wanna see what happens with the Crew of the Destiny, what is the Role of Atlantis after it Landed on Earth? I want to see some of the peaple we have met in SG1 and SGA. Are there any Missions in the Pegasus Galaxy after Atlantis left? What is with the Wraith? Is there a reasone to go back to pegasus? So many questions ^^ The old Formular was, that the old Cast introduced the new Cast and then the old cast stepped in the Backround until they are gone. I wanna see Rodney, Carter, John, O'neil, Te'alc even Radek or Dr. Carson and Keller. But they dont need to be there 100% of the show. I want, that a nwe Show EXPAND the Universe and build upon the existing one.
After a significant hiatus, setting a new Stargate series in another galaxy offers a fresh start while maintaining a connection to Earth. Featuring Earth in a cameo or support role allows old fans to adjust to a new cast and storyline smoothly. This approach lets Earth transition into a more bureaucratic role, providing continuity without overshadowing the new, adventurous narrative. The new setting offers a clean slate for character development and plot exploration, free from the constraints of previous storylines. Stationing the new series in the Milky Way poses a challenge: any new enemy would need a plausible reason for escaping detection by Atlantis, the galaxy's powerful defensive asset. An enemy suddenly appearing without explanation would seem far-fetched, while an overwhelmingly powerful foe would feel contrived. By relocating the series to another galaxy, the introduction of new adversaries becomes more credible and compelling. This fresh setting allows for diverse and authentic threats to evolve organically within the story, maintaining the suspense and excitement that fans expect. In today's Hollywood, an Earth-based series risks becoming overly political and divisive. Instead of fostering critical reflection, the narrative might alienate viewers by focusing on contentious issues. By setting the series in another galaxy, the show gains creative freedom to explore universal themes without the baggage of current political climates. This setting enables the writers to craft stories that are thought-provoking and engaging without being mired in real-world controversies, ensuring the series remains accessible and enjoyable to a broad audience. Setting the Stargate series in another galaxy offers numerous advantages: it provides a fresh start while honoring Earth's legacy, ensures the plausibility of new threats, and avoids divisive political narratives. This new setting grants the show the creative freedom needed to thrive, promising a captivating and adventurous continuation of the beloved franchise.
Screw that, bring back SG-1. Besides, it's all a moot point, because if they do make a series it'll be the same corporate woke trash like Rings of Power, they can't help themselves but inject their personal hyper-sensibilities into it. It's DEI.
@@Powerhaus88 I agree they will obviously push an agenda, but that doesn't necessarily mean it will be bad. The original versions also had agendas, but they were presented in a way that everyone could enjoy. I still think staying away from Earth gives them the most leeway, allowing them to push their agenda without tanking the show. This approach offers the best chance for the series to stay running, instead of having the pilot episode turn half the audience away right from the start.
@@FriendlyNeighborhoodNitpicker It feels that way because I have ChatGPT refine all of my comments to fix any spelling or grammar mistakes and clarify my points for a general audience. I've had too many debates where people misunderstood what I was saying.
1. DON'T REBOOT THE SHOW!!! 2. You can't paint another Mona lisa. If you try you destroy the original. 3. The actors all too often are the characters. Jack Sparrow cannot be any other than actor other than Johnny Depp. G'Kar is not G'kar without Andreas Katsulas. Londo isn't londo without Peter Jurasik. 4. Hweird is lost in identity politics. Really lost. They are incapable of creating new content on par with Jaws or ET. Why would anyone think they can remake a classic? They can't even create a new classic from an original idea. 5. Look what these vandals have done to Dr Who, Star Trek and Star Wars. You really think they wouldn't desecrate SG1? Or Farscape? Even Babylon 5? And before anyone says JMS would be involved, NO ONE CAN REPLACE ANDREAS KATSULAS AND PETER JURASIK OR MIRA FURLAN OR STEPHEN FURST. NO ONE. Not to mention JMS will guarantee bow down to the woke bs. Ivanova will be turned into an object defined by her preferences instead of her character and lose the dignity of her character. Not everyone was in love with the destruction of Battlestar Galactica. I don't understand. You have the universe of the franchise. Create new stories within it that honor the Canon. You can create whatever hero you want without tearing down what they didn't create. Unless vandalism is the goal hidden behind the promise of improvement.
It would be cool if the SGC was forced to cut back to the point of no external contact with worlds after Jack retires. For example, funding from both domestic and foreign governments becomes more scarce as today's world loses its stability, highlighting the division between nations today in things such as the Israeli-Palastine war and Ukranian and Russian wars. And that Humanity is patrolling the Solar system, keeping anyone who comes looking out. Seeing the SGC rebuild its old Legacy could be a cool idea. Like Humanity has much to go over, especially after their various excursions. Makes sense that those in power would see it as "enough for now." And how the stargate program is slowly made public over the show as the program attempts to unify humanity through this connection of the SGC.
I feel like it was the opposite. They started out with almost all main characters being jerks and unlikeable. It was not fun to watch and didn't work. In season 2 they imporved this a lot by having the characters work together and root for eacht other. This created a much better vibe and if they wouldn't have canceled the show right then, I think it could have been very successful.
Would you watch a REBOOT of Stargate? R> No...After what Amazon did with Lord of the Rings, what it wants to do with WH40K and why it didn't want to do a series with CONAN... It's clear that it will be WOKE revisionism and will have no respect for LORE or the fan base Would you watch a Stargate series WITHOUT the original casts? R> Confirming...I'm not going to watch this "probable" rubbish. But I think that in favor of creativity, old characters should only appear in special cases, to minimize the possibility of screwing up. Would you accept a Stargate show with a PUBLIC gate? R> Seriously...it's past time...or it's going to become X-file syndrome. A FUCKING SHIP the size of a city crashed and landed in San Francisco Bay!!!!! What TONE of show would you watch for new Stargate? What TONE of show would you watch for new Stargate? R> None of the suggested options...no more Star Trek style closed eps...plz more BABYLON 5 style, soap opera with sequence, consequences, day to day and not this joke where each ep looks like a dragon to kill and then a bigger dragon appears yet. Enough of ridiculous and mediocre scripts. Star Gate deserves more!
I have to say, the reboot of Star Trek was what got me interested in the franchise, I was still a little kid watching "Into darkness" I loved the vibes and the feeling. Today I have seen all Star Trek shows also Stargate and Babylon 5 and a few other scyfy shows like Andromeda. I understand the complains of some trek fans about "new trek" but I have to say that this new "chapter" has helped to get a lot of new fans, that also watched the older shows. I prefer scyfy to be deep, philosophical, trippy, it is best if complex new ideas or technology is shown, creative writing and good characters are important. Scyfy is about our future, it can both inspire and warn. I think what Stargate did very good was the focus on evolution, not just technology but also the human spirit. If humans become similar to the gods, will we be good guys or bad guys or something completly new. Trek has almost "normal" people. They are not so much of a utopia as star trek. The show feals very real and grounded. The politics are realistic and the cast very likable. It feels like a small movie to watch every episode. I have only love and respect for the people working hard and producing shows to inspire people. Scyfy is in the end just that. This is why I do not mind a reboot. I would of course have lots ideas for how to do it. I would also love a sequel. To see how this world evolved.
G'day Darren & Adam, Polling a prospective audience is a smart move; also quite revealing. Of course, I would love to see 'SG-1' (TOS) back on the road but the ravages of time simply make that impossible. So, I purchased as much of 'SG-1' as I could and that will never be lost. Sincerely, I wouldn't be all that interested if, at least, some of the original creators were not involved. It's vital that some of the original concept 'DNA' be retained. Had RDA's character, Jack, been in the real USAF he would have been retired a long time ago. Similarly, with 'General' S. Carter's character. Bringing them back would lessen the outstanding work they did for all those years. But new story possibilities are still there. Perhaps Daniel Jackson had a son who followed his Dad into 'the family business'? That's why a new story arc in a new timeline must be supervised by some of the original writer/producers. A whole new writing staff MIGHT hit the right mix of drama and humour, however, that's unlikely and it would be a tragic mistake to have that 'recipe' lost forever. I found some of the later iterations way too dark and, sometimes, tediously depressing. I sure do want the show to come back but they must retain the idea not to take themselves too seriously. That was part of the show's magic. Almost, but never 'breaking the fourth wall'. I recall an excellent original episode storyline of there being a 'teenaged' duplicate of Jack. That young actor was brilliant and caught 'Old Jack's' mannerisms perfectly. That was down to the writers and directors. Only they can recreate the true 'feel' of the show we all loved and so, I'd watch any version of any SG story set up they wrote. Cheers, Bill H. P.S. For me, Atlantis, didn't work as it was, basically, static, the stories had to come to it even thought it a had a Gate. Perhaps in a revisited Atlantis, it is discovered that the whole installation was created as a time machine; then you have a 'Dr Who' element in an already popular show that, like 'Dr Who' could 'run forever'. B.H.
… except they could erase it completely. Like Mouse did with Star Wars when they yeeted the EU out the window. Now they just keep on plucking things out of there willy-nilly and screwing them up. I don't have that *much* issue with 2009 JarJar Abrams Trek, since I can just roll my eyes and go for the 'alternate universe' notion. Something inside me died when I heard amazon has MGM now. Since amazon seems to have zero compunction about walking all over JRR Tolkien, I hold no illusions that it would be miraculously different with Stargate.
10000% yes!!! bring me more Stargate! It has to be canon though, not a full reboot, although does not require all the old characters, but cameos, references etc would be amazing in it...
(1) As long as they maintain the continuity (2) Do NOT contradict continuity with harsh retcons (3) Have some plots that tie in or is a call back to plots in SG1, SGA and SGU (4) Have some of the characters from those shows cameo or guest star in some eps. (5) I will NOT accept any reboot which wipes established SG history and AGAINST "retelling" what has already been cemented. This is how racebending and genderbending crap happens and massive RADICALLY drastic nonsensical which changes NOBODY wants especially when there is a BETTER option of CONTINUING AND EXPANDING the lore which can be done with new characters set years later after the various past series within the same continuity. (6) Whatever the new cast of NEW IN-CONTINUITY characters are.... It should maintain diverse casting. Some (more than one) of these new cast of characters can have connections to various past characters in some way or other but this should NOT be all of them. (7) PERSONALLY, I think SGU can be revived and continued inclusive of all the above points i mentioned.
I'd rather see a continuation rather than a full reboot... by maintaining the "canon" of the original series, they'd have a rich and well-developed universe packed full of potential stories just waiting to be tapped into. And the original cast can either join full-time if they're open to it, make guest appearances when appropriate, or at the very least be acknowledged at various points in the show (ie, a ship named the O'Neil, references to the original missions, etc)... I'd recommend avoiding recasting unless it's absolutely necessary (tho casting a younger actor as a new take on O'Neil could work since he had a teenage clone that could be following his original's footsteps). Sure, some reboots work, like BSG -- but more times than not they just get tiresome real quick, especially if they keep redoing the same stories with new faces. I mean, how many times did we see Spiderman's origin story get retold....
SGU made sense in terms of tone. I think if you were sent billions of lightyears away from home and on an ancient ship that doesn't fully work/every day being a fight for survival, strain on mental health and so on, it wouldn't be the same tone realistically plus, it wasn't the right people at the time or the planned exhibition for Destiny. I think it was refreshing. I love SG1 and Atlantis but they did repeat a lot of things SG1 did in SGA. SGU was uncharted territory. The SGA team were able to take more supplies with them and had safe steady gate travel.
I know, right? I watched it mainly because I love Robert Carlyle as an actor. But that show didn't seem to know what it wanted to be. They didn't even know what to do with his character. Is he good? Bad? Good again? Bad again? Make up your minds! And then they left it hanging! I was so frustrated.
As long as it treats the old Stargate with respect
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I am afraid that in an era with ESG investors, we can get only some #######, with a lot of insults to consumers.-------- Edit: Sam Carter will be replaced with a castrated man and it will be discovered that it was secretly Sam who found the 7th symbol to connect to Ebydos. Tealc will get a couple of episodes dedicated to the gay romance between him and Jack ONeal, also Jakc will be black from now. And Daniel Jackson will have his IQ lowered to 50 and will become really annoying illogical and generally interfere with the performance of tasks.
Above all other things, this. Respect your forebears, respect what they have created, and don't try to reinvent things that don't need reinventing. If at any point anyone at all thinks they can get away with anything but the utmost respect for what came before, and utmost respect for the fans, I'm not interested.
@PhoenixLord777 Exactly this.
this is the right answer
Please hurry up on a Stargate series. I am 71 and do not want to wait any longer for more.
Brother, let's live until 111, and watch 40 years of new SG shows.
Don't worry, MGM and Amazon are spinning things up and if not at ComiCon, it'll only be a matter of months before they announce the new series. Then give it a year to film and produce. The wait is almost over, finally!
@@txdmsk My brother in Oma Desala have you considered Ascension?
if they mess it up and put that dreaded final nail in Id rather they'd didn't bother. Im getting on too my friend and want my final trip thru the gate to be a happy one. I have that now
@@Mark_Williams. We keep hearing that.
The original SG was a lightning in a bottle situation. You need to get all the right actors together with the right writers and directors.
It's a hard act to follow.
Maybe rely on the original people who did the casting, if alive, that would be a good start.
heres the thing brad wright the og writer had it lined up. many of the cast from sg1 and atlantis said they would come back. amanda tapping (carter) said she wanted to direct a few episodes. the story was that many from sg1 and atlantis would come together to get the people from stargate universe home. that was the plan pitched and accepted by amazon. problem is word behind the scene was amazon scrapted that script and are doing something else. what ever they are doing is going to be hard to beat that for me.
I remember one of my favourite tv shows in the 80's The A-Team. My fav character, Mr T.
Watching as an adult a year ago, it did not quite have the same feel as before, simply because my teenage emotions are pretty different to my adult emotions.
I mean, MacGyver, it was amazing to turn a ball of string into a "super cable" lol, it was fun been a kid. (care free)
Atlantis was just as good, so lighting struck twice in those bottles. Same crew though just a few extra actors.
@@ZergRadio It was a bad reboot.
Here is why I like Stargate SG-1 and Atlantis and Universe:
- The team composition and character development
- Earth's sensible technology progression that was influenced in subtle ways by discoveries the teams made using the gate
- The mysterious remnants of the Ancients and their accompanying philosophy
- The Asgard
- The Jaffa culture and politics
- International Earth politics revolving around the stargate
- A few light-hearted comedy episodes
- A few conspiracy episodes
Today if if was made they would be fighting to see who could be the biggest pervert on a death spiral to the bottom with ZERO hope, progress to a BETTER life and play make believe women are men. Absolutely NO ONE would watch.
- At least some kind of physics in world. Not so far removed from reality (like star trek).
On top of that you really got the sense that it was an adventure. You were going on expeditions and discovering things along with the crew.
Actually heroic and likeable characters in fantasy situations = good show.
Unlikable selfish jerks in terrible situations = stressful show.
Poorly written overly sanitized characters in situations run past test audiences = boring show.
SG1 and Atlantis; likeable characters fantasy situations. Memorable characters and scenes. Loved by many and quite successful.
BSG remake and SG Universe; selfish unlikeable jerks in grim dark setting. Few to no heroes. Easily forgotten.
Modern Star wars and Star Trek; checks boxes, made by committees for shareholders and marketing executives. No positively memorable characters or originality.
I hated Universe. Watched maybe 2 episodes before I gave up.
I could see Samantha Carter being the 'General Hammond' type for a new generation.
No, no, no. She's better at fixing things.
No. That would be the absolute wrong thing to do.
Maybe Ben Browder could take that role. Michael Shanks maybe, he did play a similar type role in Altered Carbon.
@@ericpowell4350 Why? I agree with OP
She's too smart for that.
Amazon is not going to give us the show we wanted. I would rather just watch the old show.
Atlantis was in 2004? Damn...I AM GETTING OLD! :(
The Stargate Movie released in 1994. I have it on VCR tape.
@chalion8399 ok but thats not that relevant
@@chalion8399 I've got a copy of Beowulf published in 1909. Does that mean I'm older?
Guess I should have expanded on my purchase. Guess I'm not as smart as the response commentors.
Ikr?! I just recently rewatched it. Forgot how much I loved it.
after seeing what corporate greed did to Star Wars, LOTR, Marvel, ghostbusters, Jurassic park, etc......I'd pay them to NOT make a new Stargate show. How many more beloved franchises do we have to watch them exhume and desecrate? Tolkein was right "Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin what good forces have invented or made."
The single most important thing is that some of the old production/writing crew MUST be involved: Brad Wright, Joe Mallozzi, Martin Gero, Robert Cooper.
Otherwise I have ZERO trust that whatever some other group of writers/producers comes up with will not be true to the original intent and style. See the vast majority of new Trek for an example of what I am referring to, or Star Wars for more evidence.
Agreed... This is a MUST!!!!
From the sounds of things, Brad Wright might be kept at arms length. Also, you need to consider that the IP needs to move on and be appealing to newer generations of people to survive and thrive, which may mean the formula and even the writers need to be different to be successful. Using the same formula as before could mean death for the franchise if it doesn't pull in the younger generations that have never seen older SG series before.
While I agree with your sentiment, times change and at the end of the day it is a business and hard facts like a new viewer base may mean it might not be to your taste.
Let's hope they walk that fine line well!
@@Mark_Williams. " the IP needs to move on and be appealing to newer generations"
That's exactly how we got things like "Star Trek Discovery", "Picard", "The Rise of Skywalker", "The Acolyte"
Yes some are financially successful, but none are as successful as the original material.
@@dogsbd Agreed, however like those two franchises, times have changed and SG needs to also adapt. The big two have failed at it so far for the most part and I fear SG may fall into the same trap.
The franchise needs to survive without the original series staff because at some point they simply won't be around anymore.
Let's hope they find the right formula!
@@Mark_Williams. You can have amazing content that is adapted to a modern generation without becoming utter slop. The Orville is a good example of a modern quality sci-fi show.
Stop the friggin reboots and continue with the story without woking the sht out it. I wanna see earth how it has evolve with Asgard tech 15+ years later. Is that so hard to ask for?
Aslong as its a continuation of the existing canon, then I would watch it.
Yep...if it's a reboot, absolutely not interested. I'm not saying the same characters have to be present (obviously the SG-1 actors are getting up there in age - cameos would still be nice), but it absolutely has to take place in the same continuity.
Did you like SGU? Would you watch a "season3"? They were canon, they even got some characters of SG1/SGA.
@@BBBrasil I really enjoyed SGU, especially on my last rewatch, I would love an explenation, or a third season, but thats no longer possible
@@StormsparkPegasus Exactly what im thinking.
@@BBBrasil I loved SGU. People say it was trying to copy Battlestar galactica, but for me battlestar galactica is way worse (I watched 2 seasons of it, to be sure)
Stargate - Ancients. Focuses on the gatebuilders on Earth as they incent the gate and use it to populate and explore the Milky Way. The Astard & Nox could be part of the meta arch of the story.
Also, possibly explore tensions with the Ori.
I don't trust them to do it right
The talentless hacks will ruin like they have with Star Trek.
Me either. Universe did not feel like its fun, techy, alien adventure friends show
Kinda how the new trek don’t feel like trek
Depends on who writes it. Stargate was set in our time, there’s no reason to leap into the future, unless it only happens on other planets. Universe was way too dark for me and Ai never bought into the characters nor did I buy the DVDs. Let’s not go dark again. The world is already dark enough, we need light-hearted, humorous adventures, so casting will need to have the right chemistry for that to work well. David Hewlett would be up for a role, just ask him! Joe Flanagan too.
Unfortunately I must agree to this statement as well :-/
So heartedly agree. Only way it could be done is it has to be fan based. Any involvement with Hollywood producers and big media corporations will on poison Stargate. It would have to be grassroots funding and have the Stargate community in order to have any hopes of it being good.
I loved exploration, discoveries, new civilizations and races, and the humor of SG1 and SGA. I liked the "light" tone of the shows.
I would be curious and hopeful, but considering how poorly other successful franchise properties have been handled in recent times, my expectations are extremely low. I'm generally not a fan of reboots, but whatever I am watching I need to enjoy it
Tucker Carlson has made a very valid point recently the people that run things (government, industry, entertainment you name it) cannot make anything as good as their predecessors did, they know it and they hate it so they instead ruin and destroy what their predecessors made.
Regarding poll 2, I answered with option 2, but would have preferred an option that was something along the lines of "Guest appearances are fine, but I would also be fine with old cast members coming back full time as their original characters."
Absolutely. Since it´s a show about the military, that makes absolute sense anyway. The military characters can come back promoted, the others anyway.
These series starting with Stargate SG-1 were the best sci-fi series I have ever seen (I am 64 years old and as a small child I watched almost EVERYTHING in the sci-fi genre!) I wish with all my heart the resumption of the production of these magnificent series !
Me too! I am 70, and I just love the advances in cinematic technology. While people are debating the new Dune movie, I am sitting in the theatre thinking wow this is so amazing. We have come a long way from watching series on a black and white, and very small television screen.
And the show still continues to take in young audience. That´s how important it is to keep the style and spirit of SG1. SGA was a little darker sometimes, but still gave the audience what they wanted. They need to do a continuation, a next generation, with the existing cast in cameos, recurring and partially regular roles.
I feel like question #2 should have a 4th option that sounds something like: "I would like to see some former cast return full-time if possible in combination with guest appearances."
Personally I don't NEED former cast to return, but I would like to see it. I feel like it would tie a new series to the established universe of Stargate for old fans, and I hope that could be done without making it hard to get into for any newcomers to the Stargate universe.
They are all very old now. The youngest cast members from the original cast may be able to come back as older command characters. Like Ben Browder as base commander, or shanks as a consultant. Bit they would be secondary characters, not action characters that you would see on screen most the time. Some actors have already passed due to age, for example Carmen argenziano (Jacob carter). Older actors like Richard Dean Anderson or Tony Amendola would be really hard to bring back full time.
I think it is a need. Everything else would just be disrespectful to the original actors. It´s the actors the audience want to see, they made the success, the audience connect their faces with the show. And it´s the writers stories the audience want to hear, so they better get the band back together there as well, as much as possible!
If its a continuation of the existing universe (new cast, mew stories, some rare cameos from old characters ) then yes.
If its a reboot or alternate universe then its a hard no
They will ruin it like they did with Star Trek.
You would have to destoy ships somehow. Or implement unlimited ZPMs for traveling to diferent galaxies. Because ships are super fast now it is ridicilouse. you can travel anywhere in our galaxy in few hours. Somebody eaven counted that we can reach SGU ship in few months.
@@callumbush1 Star Trek, Star Wars and Stargate. Bad things come in threes.
Hallowed is original canon 🙏
@@callumbush1 And Rings of Power, and Halo, and Wheel of Time, and The Witcher, and Star Wars
@@Powerhaus88 I'd say The Witcher is the best show out of those and only because Cavill was in it but now he's left that show will definitely bomb.
3.) I would think making the Stargate public would be a stupid idea for the show. It would mean they would have to frequently address earth-based issues instead of exploring the universe. I don't need Stargate: CSI
I agree with the point but u have spawned an idea with "Stargate: CSI" but not based on what u said but rather a sort of inter-star system police/ investigation division founded by a treaty of earth with some alien civilisations with a base that's NOT on earth (similar to Atlantis). I know, i know this treaty sounds like Startreks federation but this division would be more investigators of crimes than explorers (yes, i can see how that can intersect which is also fine) .... However, the will villains within the world's in the treaty AND from outside the treaty.
Thoughts?
My biggest concern is the new show not respecting the source material. The 2016 Ghostbusters movie is a prime example of this.
If you took the main characters out, the Ghostbuster universe is inherently a horror movie. The comedy comes from the interaction of the characters and their world they find themselves in. With the 2016 movie, everything is slapstick comedy. The characters, the villain, the universe is all silly. Take the main characters out and the universe is still silly and slapstick. It doesn't take the concept of ghosts and the dead seriously.
The newer Ghostbusters was, more or less, a return to the universe being a horror movie with comedic characters and that works. It's different than the original, but it respects the source material and theme and I'm ok with that. My fear is that the new Stargate show will run into the same problem.
The new show could be a reboot on an alternate universe, which totally fits as it would leave open the possibility of original cast members making an appearance.
The 2016 Ghostbusters film was fantastic.
Yeah a SG resurrection that turns into something so anti-fan, anti-canon and anti-quality as Ghostbusters 2016 is exactly what I fear would happen. Even Sony is trying hard to forget that show ever existed, and rightfully so.
The newer ones are very respectful, if a new SG comes out, I hope it will like that.
The all-female one was HORRIBLE and very disrespectful to the original canon. It might have been an okay movie on its own merits, but it was a horrible Ghostbusters movie.
Well Stargate Infinity was a huge departure from the Stargate formula.
@@disruptive_innovator You mean like Stargate Infinity?
A reboot would need to be absolutely stellar, especially because the new series would immediately face the challenge of having to live up to the old (nostalgia) while redoing several story-beats where we already know the outcome. It would have to start seperating from how things evolve right from Anubis first and second season.
I would much rather that we would continue in established universe, even based from earth where a new growing threat / challenge might bring Humans and Goa-uld together to face it together, or splinter them seeing this as a new chance to take a shot at Earth. It'd be awesome to see a much big "splinter" group like the Tok'ra where many of them are allies but a bigger section is either undecided or enemy. Simply having glowy eyes might not be enough to decide if you face friend or foe.
Bringing Atlantis and Earth together would be awesome, but definatly expensive for sets / actors / etc. And bringing in Universe would be awesome, personally loved the new take SGU did, but again that's a whole new set / group of actors. Maybe not in the first season, but something down the line?
Tone should be more on the episodic side, SGU worked as grittier because of the story, stuck on an exploration ship. If based on Earth or likewise outpost there should certainly be a story over the season(s) but like SG1 keeping most things episodic or dual-episodes would almost feel refreshing at this point where all series nowaday are effectively X-part movies telling one single story.
So I always thought they could open a new plot using a cast that works well together (similar to sg1's) by visiting a new planet and accidentally unsealing some sort of tomb of another prime evil like being that ends up recruiting/controlling other factions trying to become to new dominant force in the universe
Have it carry on from the old SG1 except have the old cast be the superiors of the new SG1 crew.
Reboots are tricky, so I would maybe give the first episode a chance but no guarantees. To capture the existing (and still thriving) Stargate Fanbase a continuation would be my preference and IMHO the safest choice to guarantee a successful launch.
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Set a bit after SG Atlantis, the Nox decide to bring a team from the SG program to a new galaxy where the Furlings originated to investigate what happened. That would be my dream SG show.
I wouldn’t even mind a full series reboot as long as it maintained the tone of SG1. I don’t like dour, joyless scifi. That was my main gripe with SGU.
Any new project should be in the same Universe and maintain all the lore already established. Absolutely do NOT need a re-boot. New actors and new locales and even a new style are all OK, but it needs to be part of the established whole already out there. A re-boot is the quickest way to absolutely ruin it all. Don't do it!
Too many of today’s writers/producers strive to subvert expectations which results in attempting to dismantle what has been established. This inevitably offends fans of existing material. In addition fun & entertainment gets lost due to an insistence on delivering “the message”. If they focus on telling great stories and avoid focusing on preaching (ie. SGU) I will give them a chance.
I would love to watch new SG, as long they leave woke crap out of it like other shows like super girl and etc.
It depends.
Will it follows the way of SG-1?
Or will it go along the current trend, like the other mainstream shows, for example; ST:Discovery?
Discovery blows. I still go watch Star Trek continues on YT
I think the latter is far more likely.
If Hollywood did make another Stargate, it would probably be woke as hell like everything else and would flop because of that.
Exactly!
Yeah it will be terrible. There will be Jaffa that are black women, metaphors for LGBTQ people, and the main team will have a woman and black person for diversity.
They tried the Battlestar Galactica route with Universe (Darker, Edgy), didn't work.
The thing is it was beginning to work during Season 2, and would've been good if it kept going
Did work.
@@adamsultana8380 That´s way too late. I tortured myself through almost half of the 1st season, every week you wait for new stargate and every time that crashing disappointment. That´s stealing peoples´time. I won´t watch a full bad season just for the promise that it gets better in the second. The moment´s gone. SGU is not Stargate for me, didn´t feel like it, not even a tiny merciful bit.
It worked like a charm and sgu is easily the best franchise has to offer. Because of people like you who blindly demanded the same stale sg1 and sga we never got to see more. Enjoy the drought you've created.
@@nopens It was not good and most people disliked it and it is you who clings to something that wasn´t good for the franchise. "people like me"? "Clings"? If you need insults, so you prove yourself wrong! I´m sorry that your preferences don´t agree with it, but the show did not belong into the franchise. If they wanted to make that show like it is, they should have done so outside the franchise. "People like me" are the stargate fandom. For what you want, you need another fandom, BSG or whatever. It´s simply not compatible.
2018 "Stargate Origins" WAS the "Soft Re-Boot" and it sucks!
Continues the SG1 would building? Yes.
They should continue Stargate: Universe.
Last season ended with them going into *cryosleep.*
If the cast is a few years *older,* it would make sense.
I don't want a reboot. It was good as it lasted. SGU strayed from the SG1/SGA formula, it lost the old crowd, it got very few new ones.
I want a moving forward Stargate. We have now the Asgard Core, X303's and X302's, we have Atlantis, we have lots of galactic friends that might have survived the Ori.
The production have to devise a good villain. Since SGU formula sunk the franchise, the production has to devise something new or go with the old winning formula.
I wish they could continue Stargate Universe. I HATE that they canceled it.
I would like to, but looking at whats being released every year, if it ever happens it's going to be a reboot that craps all over the original idea and would definitely focus on character feelings and metaphors for real world politics instead of delivering good scifi show first. I have my copies of movies, sg1, sga and sgu safely stored on several disks so they will never be retconned, censored or changed in any way, if another show comes up and it's not good i'll just ignore it.
If the show is Woke, and full of DEI, I won’t watch it. DEI has ruined everything it has touched.
DEI=Destroy Entertainment Immediately
I could see Amanda Tapping as the leader of the sgc in a new show. If that happened then I could see Michael Shanks and Christopher Judge being on the show at least a few times.
If it was more like SG1 or Atlantis, yes.
If it was more like SGU, no. That was depressing and cold, and very little like SG1/Atlantis. There was no enthusiasm or wonder.
Also, can them make it and not have it get super cringewoke? Because that's a deal breaker big time.
I have an idea that might work: they could do a TNG style show but set in the Stargate realm where it takes places years later (in our current present) where the Stargate program is known by the whole world, Earth has created a organisation that connects all the more organised world's to create a union of different human societies and follow different mythologies like Greek, Asian etc with lots of motifs with some characters from the previous shows making reappearance
Fourth question expansion: I wanted to like SGU, but I really only watched it because it was "Stargate"... there are plenty of drama shows, light-hearted and funny takes more actual talent.
SGU was awful.
I love stargate ❤
So they better not turn it into something else. If you ask me, too much mentioning of that battlestar thing in the video. That is simply something completely different. We want Stargate!
Continuing with Atlantis ship on earth. Next generation, ie 30 years since Atlantis parked off the coast of California. As long as they don't have a shaking camera like they did on SGU, I could not watch the SGU episodes as I got migraines from the constant shaking.
If it was a continuation set in the same universe and didn't retcon anything from the show/movies, it stayed faithful to what Stargate was and maybe had cameos from original cast members, then I would watch it for sure. If it were a reboot or they changed things too much, made the show look and feel a bit too different than SG1, Atlantis and SGU, then probably not.
Depends on who makes it. If it has the same quality as modern Star Wars, Star Trek, or Doctor Who...Hard Pass.
It has to have a similar “feel” to it. Stargate Universe lost some of that feel, to its detriment. Even at its darkest (like when SG1 went, literally, to hell) SG1 and Atlantis never took themselves too seriously. They knew they were a fun and somewhat cheesy sci-fi series, so while they told big stories with well written characters, they still gently winked at the audience with lines like “I thought we were going with Red Leader on this one”, “Sir, we can’t call it The Enterprise”, and from the pilot “it took us 15 years and 3 computers to MacGyver a system for the gate on Earth.”
It was also, aside from the pilot movie and a couple of early episodes like Hathor, fairly family friendly. They even went back and removed the more family unfriendly moments from the pilot in its rerelease later on. This is something modern Star Trek has struggled with, with shows like Discovery and Picard showing extreme gore (Icheb) and very strong language (the f-bombs on Discovery are a far cry from Kirk’s “double dumb ass on you”). Star Trek seems to have realized this and Strange New Worlds seems to be largely avoiding it. Stargate Universe was notably less family friendly, especially early on, and I fear that this may have hurt its audience retention.
I have two real fears with a new show. First, they try to actually pull off something like that “teen SG1” joke from the episode 200. Second, that they go the “Reboot: The Guardian Code” route and create a show with a very few ties to the original show other than a couple of names, where the showrunners actively dislike and take pains to mock fans of the original show.
Having said this, changes are not inherently bad. SG1 is a very different beast from the movie and all the better for it.
I love Stargate and I’m going to give whatever they put out a try. I just hope it’s a worthy follow up to the legacy that is already there.
I agree with almost everything you wrote. But if they actually are really that stupid to make a hard reboot, they can watch it themselves, I won´t. I want a continuation.
I was one of the harshest critics of SGU back then but i re-watched it recently and ... to my flabbergasted surprise... it was quite enjoyable. Perhaps i (or we as fans) may have been too harsh in retrospect.
@@shadowone01x99 I respect and agree that standpoints might be questioned and reassessed. But I really tried hard and made it through half a season and realized that I suffered. Life is too short, so I decided to use my time for something else. Anything. In those times, I didn´t even have DVD-boxes to console myself. But I could not bear to watch SGU. I had a really bad time, but I really tried. I really wanted Stargate to happen. But it simply wasn´t Stargate.
I agree, Stargate SG-1 and Atlantis were shows every generation of my family enjoyed, and I would want that to be true of any new addition, too. None of us watched Universe. It didn't feel like Stargate at all.
You forgot to mentioned shitty remake-reboot-quasy-sequel of Quantum Leap (2022-2024) with worse than CW level of writing
I’d try it, but given the state Star Wars and Star Trek, I’d just assume leave the franchise in the past. They were a product of their time and will always be entertaining, but with what studios inject into these IPs now, anything promising would be compromised due to studio interference.
All signs point to "Give us something and we'll deal with it later".. "as a caring community" 😉
4.) I think Stargate could pull off lighter and darker depending on the episode. Personally I would skew the needle to the darker side a bit. But we all enjoyed the time loop one where O'Neill was going crazy. I would call that a lighter one. Plus the Goa'uld we're a bit cheesy and Saturday morning cartoon evil. I might make them a bit more of a serious and intelligent threat than the punching bag they turned into in the later seasons.
It needs to be a continuation of the shows and done right with no modern day politics forced into the show like other franchise
I have watched both SG-1 and Stargate Atlantis..I would definitely watch it.
You mention the Star Trek series but forget the modern reboots.
Can we have both Strange New Worlds, and Lower Decks.
I'd love a Stargate version of Lower Decks
Absolutely a new Stargate show would be amazing but also very difficult to get right as Stargate sg1 and Atlantis are two of my favourite shows of all time.
I'm not picky, I'll watch anything StarGate, but I would prefer Brad Wright, Joseph Mallozi,.. continue everything
i want it PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes. As long as it is a good show.
At this point I just want new stargate. I’d love it to be a continuation and have another spin off, like Atlantis 2.0. If it’s a hard reboot as long as it’s still about a secret military base so we don’t get too many earth episodes
I could see a judge timeline consider the longevity of the jaffa
No to reboot/alternate timeline. New cast but expanding from the original shows with cameos would be fine.
Or having the old cast as SG1 commands
Agree totally on getting tired of waiting. We’re all getting older too!! Let’s get going and bring on a good show that the fan base and newcomers will love. Thanks for the video!
Absolutely, IF it followed the same recipe as Atlantis and SG1
I've tried watching SGU so many times and just can't get passed about 4 episodes. It's basically a soap.
I'd be interested in a new story of gate discovery but from able World populated by humans. Similar to but not Earth.
Trust me. It’s gets MUCH better. I really disliked the start and by the end I was crying that it was over.
The first 6 episodes really dragged on, but episode 8 was when I think the show picked up and got better and better. Season 2 is absolutely solid.
Some welcome cameos too
@@jamesSevenAteNine Good to know. I keep wanting to watch it, purely because it's Stargate, but end up with 0 motivation to watch the next episode. Think at this point I've tried about 4 times. I'll give it another go.
So i have liked all the shows, even universe, but they need to remmeber to bring back the “fun”
Yes. Finally. And May it Be Faithful and True 2 the Story😎
I am a Stargate fan who loved all SG-1, Atlantis, and Universe.
If it's like Universe, nope.
Only if it respects Stargate SG1, my favorite Stargate.
Brad's idea with Daniel leading the team is the best by far. Brad should open up the first show, then others can take over later. Daniel would make a good Stargate Indy, with Sam as General, and frequent visits from any previous actor who wants to return.
I think they should continue on from when Atlantis made it to earth🤗
If it's not shakycam like Universe then yes.
Stargate Galactic empire start off of stargate universe.
Just forget SGU please , only sg1 and atlantis were great
I just want to see a show like SG-1. I want to explore the wider galaxy, see the amazing technology, and see the majestic universe at Stargate
If it were like SG-1 & Atlantis, absolutely! But it didn't happen with Universe (IMO), so....
So many stories: How about one where Jacks son comes looking for him through the Gates? (remember he spent some time on a planet trapped before they rescued him and at the end when he went home the love interest implied she was with child.
It's well known that Amazon-MGM use DEI (now called BRIDGE) based quotas in all their projects. This invariably lessens the quality of everything they make. I simply do not trust them to make something worthwhile. I'd love to be wrong. Yet I don't really want this last great piece of Sci-Fi I love to be "updated for a modern audience".
THANK YOU! I'll have to look into the BRIDGE thing. I've seen the name but I don't know what it stands for. But it'll be the same crap under a different acronym.
At this point I'll settle for anything, as long as it's well-written and stays true to the universe. There're many directions they could go with so much lore to build on.
Maybe , I'm still waiting for a third season of SGU or maybe a tie up film in the same style of Serenity
I'd watch anything regardless, but have a preference of a continuation. Given the time that has pasted, I think reboot is the safest option to ensure success.
Stargate Universe was garbage.
It was written and directer to be garbage.
Do NOT repeat that.
SG-1 and SGA had the right recipe. Sure, they were overusing plot armor, and magical science, and it wasn't perfect, but at the end of the day they were good, hopeful shows that had the right amount of humour, exploration, friendship, military stuff, action, sci-fi and whatnot.
I do not trust that 2024 writers and the zeitgeist can make a good show.
They could not make a good Star Trek show. They could not make a good LOTR show. They are failing all the marvel shows and movies, Doctor Who, Star Wars were destroyed, and so on.
If they can not create a decently written non-woke show I would rather them not destroy this franchise as well....
I’m flexible but here’s my ideal: Continue the story,, but it’s now intergalactic scale. Original cast has guest appearances, the stargate is public knowledge, and stories include the former Ori galaxy, 9-chevron gating to a different Universe-class ship (maybe the star team mind-warps to help solve problems an explorer team encounters), visiting the Pegasus, finding an estranged Asgard faction in another galaxy. The tone needs to be upbeat, sci-fi optimistic, human-optimistic, and keep the angry protester type out of the main cast. I like the serial story format, awful struggles to overcome, but I want Cam Mitchell attitude.
Remember how in SGU everybody was enemies? The conflict was always drama sex and arguing between the cast and rarely sci fi exploration. It sucked.
it's a big reason I couldn't get more than two or three episodes into it. I remember my parents forcing themselves to watch it on streaming just to say they did. I have never seen my dad so irritable.
I think SGU was too much of a departure from SG1 and SGA. Odds are if they kept in the camaraderie that SG1 and SGA had between their main characters, it would've landed differently. I really disliked them jumping into each other's beds (even when controlling some poor sap on Earth(!)) but I could deal with it if that was my only problem. I didn't like it in TNG either, but I dealt with it because the core cast weren't perpetually at each other's throats at the same time.
I wanna see what happens with the Crew of the Destiny, what is the Role of Atlantis after it Landed on Earth? I want to see some of the peaple we have met in SG1 and SGA. Are there any Missions in the Pegasus Galaxy after Atlantis left? What is with the Wraith?
Is there a reasone to go back to pegasus? So many questions ^^
The old Formular was, that the old Cast introduced the new Cast and then the old cast stepped in the Backround until they are gone.
I wanna see Rodney, Carter, John, O'neil, Te'alc even Radek or Dr. Carson and Keller. But they dont need to be there 100% of the show.
I want, that a nwe Show EXPAND the Universe and build upon the existing one.
Yes!
After a significant hiatus, setting a new Stargate series in another galaxy offers a fresh start while maintaining a connection to Earth. Featuring Earth in a cameo or support role allows old fans to adjust to a new cast and storyline smoothly. This approach lets Earth transition into a more bureaucratic role, providing continuity without overshadowing the new, adventurous narrative. The new setting offers a clean slate for character development and plot exploration, free from the constraints of previous storylines.
Stationing the new series in the Milky Way poses a challenge: any new enemy would need a plausible reason for escaping detection by Atlantis, the galaxy's powerful defensive asset. An enemy suddenly appearing without explanation would seem far-fetched, while an overwhelmingly powerful foe would feel contrived. By relocating the series to another galaxy, the introduction of new adversaries becomes more credible and compelling. This fresh setting allows for diverse and authentic threats to evolve organically within the story, maintaining the suspense and excitement that fans expect.
In today's Hollywood, an Earth-based series risks becoming overly political and divisive. Instead of fostering critical reflection, the narrative might alienate viewers by focusing on contentious issues. By setting the series in another galaxy, the show gains creative freedom to explore universal themes without the baggage of current political climates. This setting enables the writers to craft stories that are thought-provoking and engaging without being mired in real-world controversies, ensuring the series remains accessible and enjoyable to a broad audience.
Setting the Stargate series in another galaxy offers numerous advantages: it provides a fresh start while honoring Earth's legacy, ensures the plausibility of new threats, and avoids divisive political narratives. This new setting grants the show the creative freedom needed to thrive, promising a captivating and adventurous continuation of the beloved franchise.
Screw that, bring back SG-1. Besides, it's all a moot point, because if they do make a series it'll be the same corporate woke trash like Rings of Power, they can't help themselves but inject their personal hyper-sensibilities into it. It's DEI.
Why do I feel like this comment was written by ChatGPT?
@@Powerhaus88 I agree they will obviously push an agenda, but that doesn't necessarily mean it will be bad. The original versions also had agendas, but they were presented in a way that everyone could enjoy. I still think staying away from Earth gives them the most leeway, allowing them to push their agenda without tanking the show. This approach offers the best chance for the series to stay running, instead of having the pilot episode turn half the audience away right from the start.
@@FriendlyNeighborhoodNitpicker It feels that way because I have ChatGPT refine all of my comments to fix any spelling or grammar mistakes and clarify my points for a general audience. I've had too many debates where people misunderstood what I was saying.
1. DON'T REBOOT THE SHOW!!!
2. You can't paint another Mona lisa. If you try you destroy the original.
3. The actors all too often are the characters. Jack Sparrow cannot be any other than actor other than Johnny Depp. G'Kar is not G'kar without Andreas Katsulas. Londo isn't londo without Peter Jurasik.
4. Hweird is lost in identity politics. Really lost. They are incapable of creating new content on par with Jaws or ET. Why would anyone think they can remake a classic? They can't even create a new classic from an original idea.
5. Look what these vandals have done to Dr Who, Star Trek and Star Wars. You really think they wouldn't desecrate SG1? Or Farscape? Even Babylon 5? And before anyone says JMS would be involved, NO ONE CAN REPLACE ANDREAS KATSULAS AND PETER JURASIK OR MIRA FURLAN OR STEPHEN FURST. NO ONE.
Not to mention JMS will guarantee bow down to the woke bs.
Ivanova will be turned into an object defined by her preferences instead of her character and lose the dignity of her character.
Not everyone was in love with the destruction of Battlestar Galactica.
I don't understand. You have the universe of the franchise. Create new stories within it that honor the Canon. You can create whatever hero you want without tearing down what they didn't create. Unless vandalism is the goal hidden behind the promise of improvement.
They would ruin it.
It would be cool if the SGC was forced to cut back to the point of no external contact with worlds after Jack retires. For example, funding from both domestic and foreign governments becomes more scarce as today's world loses its stability, highlighting the division between nations today in things such as the Israeli-Palastine war and Ukranian and Russian wars. And that Humanity is patrolling the Solar system, keeping anyone who comes looking out. Seeing the SGC rebuild its old Legacy could be a cool idea. Like Humanity has much to go over, especially after their various excursions. Makes sense that those in power would see it as "enough for now." And how the stargate program is slowly made public over the show as the program attempts to unify humanity through this connection of the SGC.
Stargate Universe was an interesting idea. It started off strong but fizzled out fairly quick, IMO.
I feel like it was the opposite. They started out with almost all main characters being jerks and unlikeable. It was not fun to watch and didn't work. In season 2 they imporved this a lot by having the characters work together and root for eacht other. This created a much better vibe and if they wouldn't have canceled the show right then, I think it could have been very successful.
Would you watch a REBOOT of Stargate?
R> No...After what Amazon did with Lord of the Rings, what it wants to do with WH40K and why it didn't want to do a series with CONAN... It's clear that it will be WOKE revisionism and will have no respect for LORE or the fan base
Would you watch a Stargate series WITHOUT the original casts?
R> Confirming...I'm not going to watch this "probable" rubbish. But I think that in favor of creativity, old characters should only appear in special cases, to minimize the possibility of screwing up.
Would you accept a Stargate show with a PUBLIC gate?
R> Seriously...it's past time...or it's going to become X-file syndrome. A FUCKING SHIP the size of a city crashed and landed in San Francisco Bay!!!!!
What TONE of show would you watch for new Stargate?
What TONE of show would you watch for new Stargate?
R> None of the suggested options...no more Star Trek style closed eps...plz more BABYLON 5 style, soap opera with sequence, consequences, day to day and not this joke where each ep looks like a dragon to kill and then a bigger dragon appears yet. Enough of ridiculous and mediocre scripts. Star Gate deserves more!
I have to say, the reboot of Star Trek was what got me interested in the franchise, I was still a little kid watching "Into darkness" I loved the vibes and the feeling. Today I have seen all Star Trek shows also Stargate and Babylon 5 and a few other scyfy shows like Andromeda. I understand the complains of some trek fans about "new trek" but I have to say that this new "chapter" has helped to get a lot of new fans, that also watched the older shows. I prefer scyfy to be deep, philosophical, trippy, it is best if complex new ideas or technology is shown, creative writing and good characters are important. Scyfy is about our future, it can both inspire and warn. I think what Stargate did very good was the focus on evolution, not just technology but also the human spirit. If humans become similar to the gods, will we be good guys or bad guys or something completly new. Trek has almost "normal" people. They are not so much of a utopia as star trek. The show feals very real and grounded. The politics are realistic and the cast very likable. It feels like a small movie to watch every episode. I have only love and respect for the people working hard and producing shows to inspire people. Scyfy is in the end just that. This is why I do not mind a reboot. I would of course have lots ideas for how to do it. I would also love a sequel. To see how this world evolved.
G'day Darren & Adam, Polling a prospective audience is a smart move; also quite revealing.
Of course, I would love to see 'SG-1' (TOS) back on the road but the ravages of time simply make that impossible. So, I purchased as much of 'SG-1' as I could and that will never be lost.
Sincerely, I wouldn't be all that interested if, at least, some of the original creators were not involved. It's vital that some of the original concept 'DNA' be retained. Had RDA's character, Jack, been in the real USAF he would have been retired a long time ago. Similarly, with 'General' S. Carter's character. Bringing them back would lessen the outstanding work they did for all those years.
But new story possibilities are still there. Perhaps Daniel Jackson had a son who followed his Dad into 'the family business'? That's why a new story arc in a new timeline must be supervised by some of the original writer/producers.
A whole new writing staff MIGHT hit the right mix of drama and humour, however, that's unlikely and it would be a tragic mistake to have that 'recipe' lost forever.
I found some of the later iterations way too dark and, sometimes, tediously depressing.
I sure do want the show to come back but they must retain the idea not to take themselves too seriously. That was part of the show's magic. Almost, but never 'breaking the fourth wall'.
I recall an excellent original episode storyline of there being a 'teenaged' duplicate of Jack. That young actor was brilliant and caught 'Old Jack's' mannerisms perfectly. That was down to the writers and directors. Only they can recreate the true 'feel' of the show we all loved and so, I'd watch any version of any SG story set up they wrote.
Cheers, Bill H.
P.S. For me, Atlantis, didn't work as it was, basically, static, the stories had to come to it even thought it a had a Gate. Perhaps in a revisited Atlantis, it is discovered that the whole installation was created as a time machine; then you have a 'Dr Who' element in an already popular show that, like 'Dr Who' could 'run forever'. B.H.
I'm looking forward to the new Stargate series!
And I would like a new show in the style of Stargate SG-1
… except they could erase it completely. Like Mouse did with Star Wars when they yeeted the EU out the window. Now they just keep on plucking things out of there willy-nilly and screwing them up.
I don't have that *much* issue with 2009 JarJar Abrams Trek, since I can just roll my eyes and go for the 'alternate universe' notion.
Something inside me died when I heard amazon has MGM now. Since amazon seems to have zero compunction about walking all over JRR Tolkien, I hold no illusions that it would be miraculously different with Stargate.
10000% yes!!! bring me more Stargate! It has to be canon though, not a full reboot, although does not require all the old characters, but cameos, references etc would be amazing in it...
They left sgu on a cliffhanger it can restart from after making the last few eps actually good
(1) As long as they maintain the continuity
(2) Do NOT contradict continuity with harsh retcons
(3) Have some plots that tie in or is a call back to plots in SG1, SGA and SGU
(4) Have some of the characters from those shows cameo or guest star in some eps.
(5) I will NOT accept any reboot which wipes established SG history and AGAINST "retelling" what has already been cemented. This is how racebending and genderbending crap happens and massive RADICALLY drastic nonsensical which changes NOBODY wants especially when there is a BETTER option of CONTINUING AND EXPANDING the lore which can be done with new characters set years later after the various past series within the same continuity.
(6) Whatever the new cast of NEW IN-CONTINUITY characters are.... It should maintain diverse casting. Some (more than one) of these new cast of characters can have connections to various past characters in some way or other but this should NOT be all of them.
(7) PERSONALLY, I think SGU can be revived and continued inclusive of all the above points i mentioned.
I'd rather see a continuation rather than a full reboot... by maintaining the "canon" of the original series, they'd have a rich and well-developed universe packed full of potential stories just waiting to be tapped into. And the original cast can either join full-time if they're open to it, make guest appearances when appropriate, or at the very least be acknowledged at various points in the show (ie, a ship named the O'Neil, references to the original missions, etc)... I'd recommend avoiding recasting unless it's absolutely necessary (tho casting a younger actor as a new take on O'Neil could work since he had a teenage clone that could be following his original's footsteps). Sure, some reboots work, like BSG -- but more times than not they just get tiresome real quick, especially if they keep redoing the same stories with new faces. I mean, how many times did we see Spiderman's origin story get retold....
Heck yeah! Bring back young O'Neill!
SGU made sense in terms of tone. I think if you were sent billions of lightyears away from home and on an ancient ship that doesn't fully work/every day being a fight for survival, strain on mental health and so on, it wouldn't be the same tone realistically plus, it wasn't the right people at the time or the planned exhibition for Destiny. I think it was refreshing. I love SG1 and Atlantis but they did repeat a lot of things SG1 did in SGA. SGU was uncharted territory. The SGA team were able to take more supplies with them and had safe steady gate travel.
They already tried to do a BAD-BOOTLEG of 2003’s Battlestar Galactica They called it "Stargate Universe"!
I know, right? I watched it mainly because I love Robert Carlyle as an actor. But that show didn't seem to know what it wanted to be. They didn't even know what to do with his character. Is he good? Bad? Good again? Bad again? Make up your minds! And then they left it hanging! I was so frustrated.