Simple VS Complex Drums (ft. Brooks Wackerman A7X)

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  • Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 7 тис.

  • @JaredDines_
    @JaredDines_  5 років тому +359

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    • @jhoubim
      @jhoubim 5 років тому +2

      Where i found this track?

    • @andrewperu1471
      @andrewperu1471 5 років тому +2

      Do a vid with timothy molloy from our last night band🔥🔥

    • @batmanwayne5159
      @batmanwayne5159 5 років тому

      I think they’re both good, My personal opinion, I would do the simplistic part with Brooks Trashy Cymbals to give it more power.

    • @Azaezlle
      @Azaezlle 4 роки тому

      I like the complex one better. I wish the guitars and bass had been cut lower though so we could more clearly hear the drums.

    • @zeemeerjin9619
      @zeemeerjin9619 4 роки тому +1

      Where do you find these tracks?

  • @stevenwilliams9108
    @stevenwilliams9108 5 років тому +6536

    Brooks Wackerman: *Moves wrist one time*
    *12 hits are clearly audible*

    • @inzukad2694
      @inzukad2694 5 років тому +11

      😂😂😂

    • @billiejoeeyelash
      @billiejoeeyelash 5 років тому +156

      Nothing can ever replace the Rev but he will do. RIP

    • @way2sh0rt07grad
      @way2sh0rt07grad 5 років тому +69

      Killjøy Clique he’s got that same style by playing off beat clean rhythms

    • @Glowstick48
      @Glowstick48 5 років тому +103

      Pure talent and a lifetime of practice dudes a true master of the instrument

    • @joelguzman9280
      @joelguzman9280 5 років тому +141

      @@billiejoeeyelash hes not replacing hes simply tag teaming in while the rev rests

  • @CameronFleury
    @CameronFleury 5 років тому +993

    Depends on the musical application. Both can work. And holy shit Brooks Wackerman \M/

    • @ammarD
      @ammarD 5 років тому +1

      This.

    • @royalcat10
      @royalcat10 5 років тому +23

      I've always felt that simple vs complexity comes down to what the song is intended to do. If it's intended to just make you want to move, simplicity is where it's at. I mean, just a basic four on the floor beat works wonders in just making someone tap their foot, or bob their head, or move in any way. I guess that's why pop music tends to be simple, it's just meant to dance to. But music that is meant to be *listened* to is when you want complexity. The music that makes you have to think about what you're hearing. Neither is inherently worse than the other, they just have different applications.
      Obviously, it's possible to combine these with the right mind set / skill, but just as a generalization.

    • @yanbar3433
      @yanbar3433 5 років тому +8

      Next up: Animals as Leaders song with some standard Rock drums and some Rock song with Animals as Leaders style drums.
      Woud be funny to hear and would really give you an example of what the drum beat does to the music.

    • @rudowakening3638
      @rudowakening3638 5 років тому

      Brooks is the man! His brother Chad might be even better

    • @sharcotics
      @sharcotics 5 років тому

      Brooks Wackerman was the drummer for Bad Religion, a band that A7X has admitted to listening to a lot and taking some influence from OFC he kicks some ass

  • @GuitarsRockForever
    @GuitarsRockForever 5 років тому +570

    Both. Some parts needs simple, some sound better with complex.

    • @giannispaterakis2991
      @giannispaterakis2991 5 років тому +3

      Exactly

    • @SynthApprentice
      @SynthApprentice 5 років тому +6

      As a musician, your priority is to do justice to the track. Drumnastics aren't always appropriate.

    • @schprox
      @schprox 5 років тому +8

      So basically it needs balance

    • @treatabledisease3258
      @treatabledisease3258 5 років тому

      How Switzerland of you

    • @vadimmihaidarov7056
      @vadimmihaidarov7056 5 років тому

      I'm from Russia, and it's hard to say to me. My English is not very impressive, but you expressed my opinion. Thank you)

  • @shquefferyjonesbonesiii7943
    @shquefferyjonesbonesiii7943 4 роки тому +128

    Brooks does a really good job making the drums sound and feel like a real instrument used for more than just keeping time. His playing just adds a layer of taste.

    • @ExternusArmy
      @ExternusArmy Рік тому +5

      It’s very melodic and musical. It’s not just rhythms but playing with the sounds and tones to create what are essentially melodies.

  • @kaoquinn
    @kaoquinn 5 років тому +738

    A mixture of both LOL there were parts in the simple that I liked and parts in the complicated that I liked.

    • @fantomagnik
      @fantomagnik 5 років тому +14

      Yeah this sums it up perfectly tbh

    • @lilyrecords7521
      @lilyrecords7521 5 років тому +15

      Yea I think a mixture of both is the better than one of them only

    • @Vanessa-iw9ei
      @Vanessa-iw9ei 5 років тому +5

      Yess, exactly

    • @nicholai414
      @nicholai414 5 років тому +20

      I think that a mix gives the track the feel of breathing. The Simple lets the guitars shine and the Complex brings an energy and sense of urgency to ths mix. Very well done.

    • @jodyshortland9875
      @jodyshortland9875 5 років тому +2

      Kevin O'Quinn agreed!! With the some of the transitions from complex to tech and vice versa there were moments where it felt natural to go in that direction. What i did like about both was the change in tempo and both had breaks and fills that built it up and brung it down to headbang along to 🤘 great work from both!! 🥁

  • @hotdogslayer4430
    @hotdogslayer4430 5 років тому +8861

    How about next is Simple vs Complex Guitar (ft. Synyster Gates)
    Hahaha

  • @SlapMyBass3825
    @SlapMyBass3825 5 років тому +260

    I love how casual these interactions are. “So I am jamming with the drummer from A7X, no big deal.”

    • @Yigzdrums
      @Yigzdrums 5 років тому +6

      Rev and brooks come back and do a dual drum battle with dines. Itd be so sickkk

    • @shayanmoosavi9139
      @shayanmoosavi9139 5 років тому +4

      @@Yigzdrums rev is dead :(

    • @jakerochelle
      @jakerochelle 5 років тому +5

      Deck O'Donnel rev has been dead for like ten years. Wym

    • @luigialexander3781
      @luigialexander3781 5 років тому +3

      @@jakerochelle He is not dead he is just in the woods

    • @joefrayling9263
      @joefrayling9263 5 років тому +3

      @@luigialexander3781 true and when he comes back he gunna be the knife master

  • @hoshikiraa9193
    @hoshikiraa9193 4 роки тому +881

    Let's just pray Brooks never gonna leave A7X...

    • @shootthemessengerband
      @shootthemessengerband 3 роки тому +54

      For real. Brooks has a great playing style for a7x

    • @dkd7670
      @dkd7670 3 роки тому +17

      @@ripvanwinkle1639 Imagine both of them playing together. If they dont, we riot

    • @goncalobaia1574
      @goncalobaia1574 3 роки тому +2

      @@dkd7670 unless they divide parts that wouldn't be a good idea

    • @AshleyAllysia
      @AshleyAllysia 3 роки тому +6

      im sorry. im from the future and i have a bad news to tell you man

    • @hoshikiraa9193
      @hoshikiraa9193 3 роки тому +1

      @@AshleyAllysia dang it

  • @jesusmallen397
    @jesusmallen397 5 років тому +2564

    Next simple vs complex guitars ft Synyster Gates 🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼

  • @ignaciooo___
    @ignaciooo___ 5 років тому +1775

    Next video: "Jared Dines Playing with Avenged Sevenfold"
    Next next video: "More details about Jared Dines and Matt Heafy Breakup"

    • @ilkrsrc081
      @ilkrsrc081 5 років тому +3

      you meant matt shadows? lol

    • @Adnonnymous
      @Adnonnymous 5 років тому +34

      @@ilkrsrc081 no, he did a lot of videos with Matt Heafy from trivium a while back

    • @nWoandDX4life
      @nWoandDX4life 5 років тому +14

      He even played with Trivium during their european tour.

    • @drew9584
      @drew9584 5 років тому

      It must have been matts new signature double strap..... Because nothing is more metal than saying im a bigger pussy than anyone else has been over the lifetime of the electric guitar... Guitarists are such pussies. Bitch pick up an ernie ball, play for an hour and tell me your cute little less paul is "too heavy".

    • @iniquity7
      @iniquity7 5 років тому +21

      @@drew9584 wtf are u even ranting about, u came up with this whole scenario in ur head, Jesus Christ. What are u ranting about no one even brought up any point in ur rant at all lol. U must have been holding that in for so long it finally exploded haha.
      PS I Love heavy guitars because they sound thicker and fuller

  • @alfonsoturco1697
    @alfonsoturco1697 5 років тому +619

    Brooks: OK, when can I start the complex part?
    Jared: what? You already played it.
    Brooks: I was warming up dude

    • @jrmcrlmorales
      @jrmcrlmorales 5 років тому +23

      I really love how he also has that The Rev vibe of making it look so easy.

    • @micke989
      @micke989 5 років тому +3

      So true

    • @rzrjf_2063
      @rzrjf_2063 5 років тому +2

      Oh oh someone's in trouble

    • @plasfariablarkaanisa9640
      @plasfariablarkaanisa9640 5 років тому +13

      @@jrmcrlmorales He makes it look ALMOST EASY. Sorry I will leave now.

    • @afmartins666
      @afmartins666 5 років тому

      The Ravi Shankar effect.

  • @Fraggr92
    @Fraggr92 3 роки тому +288

    It's not so much about which is "better", it's about knowing how to do both and more importantly WHEN to do both. There's a time for simplicity and a time for complexity.

    • @tuievans
      @tuievans 3 роки тому +5

      Well said

    • @nathanwhiting5475
      @nathanwhiting5475 3 роки тому +4

      Exactly. This also applies to basically every instrument.

    • @vulna9150
      @vulna9150 3 роки тому

      Well said x2

    • @mquin2112
      @mquin2112 3 роки тому

      Someone did a video comparing Ringo Starr's drumming which in itself was "simple" but how he knew exactly how to make it fit the song vs complexity and how it can take away from it. Knowing the difference is what makes a good drummer great.

    • @hadifelani
      @hadifelani 2 роки тому

      exactly, by having the simple one come first before the complex one, it made the song sounds fuller and if we didn't pay attention to the video it does sounds like a proper transition as a single music instead of a comparison

  • @jeffreydhill
    @jeffreydhill 5 років тому +307

    My answer to the question of simple or complex is: “Yes.”

  • @joefromaccounting7818
    @joefromaccounting7818 4 роки тому +715

    With a name like Brooks Wackerman, he was DESTINED to be a drummer

    • @randomuser-vs3oe
      @randomuser-vs3oe 4 роки тому +48

      all of his brothers and father are also drummers, making him even more destined.

    • @dasbrando4570
      @dasbrando4570 4 роки тому +40

      How do you play drums? "Whack er, man"

    • @moderusprime
      @moderusprime 4 роки тому +13

      Or a gardener.

    • @drummerboyarnold3174
      @drummerboyarnold3174 4 роки тому +1

      Even a Ninja What are you saying 😂😂😂

    • @jc3drums916
      @jc3drums916 4 роки тому +6

      @@randomuser-vs3oe Two of three brothers are drummers. One is a bassist.

  • @natemiller3280
    @natemiller3280 4 роки тому +1703

    Ok I’m gonna be the one to say it, there was no “age old question” for simplicity or complexity, he just wanted to do a video with Brooks Wackerman

    • @levibeam100
      @levibeam100 4 роки тому +46

      It is though. Simplicity vs Technicality has always been an argument.

    • @gustavodelacruz646
      @gustavodelacruz646 4 роки тому +41

      @@levibeam100 i think a mixture of both can do wonders for a song, you can amplify a section of a song that needs it and keep it simple for parts that are good enough on their own

    • @chewypilot5639
      @chewypilot5639 4 роки тому +10

      Not entirely true, sometimes over complicating it makes it sounds worse or takes away from the song

    • @hazardgaminghg122
      @hazardgaminghg122 4 роки тому +1

      @@Xxfishman058xX_chad Well he did.

    • @nicknolder7042
      @nicknolder7042 3 роки тому +4

      Sometimes less is more, sometimes more is more, it depend on the context

  • @rafaelklitschko4085
    @rafaelklitschko4085 4 роки тому +2140

    Basically, Hail to the King vs. The Stage

    • @zoda761
      @zoda761 4 роки тому +77

      Unrated comment, you deserve thousand likes

    • @idhamnnn
      @idhamnnn 4 роки тому +11

      Arin > brook

    • @wirawhyra
      @wirawhyra 4 роки тому +146

      @@idhamnnn no

    • @mattfetzer
      @mattfetzer 4 роки тому +57

      @@idhamnnn soft disagree

    • @idhamnnn
      @idhamnnn 4 роки тому +5

      Eyyy eyyy ..i need power ..not modification

  • @d-a-e
    @d-a-e 5 років тому +348

    Drummer’s Goal: To start off playing simple then catch everyone off guard by doing complex shit. Respect is earned as such

    • @jeffbell4434
      @jeffbell4434 5 років тому +2

      Lol that's kind of exactly what I always do when showing off in front of a group of people.

    • @theflyingcrud
      @theflyingcrud 5 років тому +2

      Definitely agree. I think it sounds really good too.

    • @SynthApprentice
      @SynthApprentice 5 років тому +1

      The respect of other drummers, maybe, but maybe not the respect of your band mates.

    • @matthewd6306
      @matthewd6306 5 років тому +1

      Even better write complex Drum parts that don't rely on straight double bass and fills. Incorporate Jazz High hat parts, polyrythms, and african tom beats. Bonus if you can play rudiments on bass drum instead of the typical metal double bass.

    • @theflyingcrud
      @theflyingcrud 5 років тому +1

      @@matthewd6306 Both ways are fine. I like playing both simple and more complex drum parts. Most important to play to the song. Personally, I typically only use double bass for fills or extra flavor

  • @miggytiamzon2076
    @miggytiamzon2076 5 років тому +154

    Brooks: yeah, this is my "simple."

    • @Julien869
      @Julien869 5 років тому +1

      He was like "Wait, I thought you asked ME to do the simple parts."

  • @MarktheAirsoftPrimate
    @MarktheAirsoftPrimate 5 років тому +341

    Holy poops. Brooks timing and rhythm are just other worldly. Both work, in certain parts complex was too much, simple was not enough, either way this is awesome.

    • @krisgardner7160
      @krisgardner7160 5 років тому +7

      Brooks was a good fit for a7x because he and the Rev both have a kinda non conventional approach to their rhythms but Brooks and Jimmy are still booth totally unique

    • @michaelhodges6493
      @michaelhodges6493 5 років тому +2

      A good transition back and forth from simple to complex would of really been insane. I prefer to keep things simple though

    • @MrCole58
      @MrCole58 5 років тому +5

      Somewhere right in the middle, flair is good in moderation and it makes things interesting , but too much can take away from that essential rhythmic foundation. The simple drumming had a very easily identifiable pulse, but it can get boring pretty quick. A combination of the two would be interesting while still retaining utility.

    • @dylanlapenna8513
      @dylanlapenna8513 5 років тому +1

      You should UA-cam search Terry Bozzio. Honestly he makes Neil Peart from Rush look like a chump.

  • @lewy_g_official
    @lewy_g_official 2 роки тому +43

    What Brooks was doing wasn't just complex, but incredibly creative and that's what a lot of people look over.

    • @JacobC479
      @JacobC479 5 місяців тому

      Exactly, people think complex usually just means fast and hard. Sometimes you hear something that isn’t necessarily expert level but the creativeness of it and the way it switches the sound is just incredible.

  • @camilogonzalez5728
    @camilogonzalez5728 5 років тому +191

    I like both styles. Some songs sounds better simple, others works better with complex techniques. But if it's A7X songs I choose complexity.

    • @emanueltorres3560
      @emanueltorres3560 5 років тому +5

      I also like their use of contra melody at slow but also when then it picks up quickly and its still melody and a contra melody and then when drums are just equally as complex it's just an eargasm a lot times I don't even think how are they doing that I just sit back and enjoy.

  • @thetalentedmrrapley
    @thetalentedmrrapley 5 років тому +155

    The best drummers utilise both. But as a drummer I have to love the complex.
    4:33 is perfection

  • @andikardian9014
    @andikardian9014 4 роки тому +162

    Brook's style is much proggy than the simple one, and i love prog metal.

  • @drums_and_beer
    @drums_and_beer 5 років тому +1212

    Combine those two together and you basically have a Dream Theater song

    • @Gyrossteeltesticles24
      @Gyrossteeltesticles24 5 років тому +67

      Rather coincidental since Portnoy played on Nightmare

    • @jamesdong8179
      @jamesdong8179 5 років тому +5

      Or at least the drum track, but yea

    • @Cobalt985
      @Cobalt985 5 років тому +33

      Haha, exactly what I was thinking. Portnoy has always been amazing at combining complex parts with simpler parts to form a more complete whole.

    • @chriskrausesmovie
      @chriskrausesmovie 5 років тому +14

      Jared theater

    • @WillMaskellTaylor
      @WillMaskellTaylor 5 років тому

      More like Oceans ate alaska or something

  • @trollmaster333
    @trollmaster333 5 років тому +571

    Ask Syn to take part in 2019's biggest shred collab

    • @JustCarMuh
      @JustCarMuh 5 років тому +64

      Syn alone would demolish everyone else

    • @benmacdonald5445
      @benmacdonald5445 5 років тому +12

      Slxxpy Kxrma Except Angel Vivaldi. You don’t beat Angel Vivaldi.

    • @zenzookyouka
      @zenzookyouka 5 років тому +10

      @Ashish Gupta Synyster Gates - A7x's main guitarist

    • @ZackTheNever
      @ZackTheNever 5 років тому +1

      I 1000% agree with this

    • @zaidaljundi3462
      @zaidaljundi3462 5 років тому +10

      Have him get zacky as well and they can play together at the same time

  • @matthewkoeppel8742
    @matthewkoeppel8742 4 роки тому +89

    Versatility and the proper use of both “simple” and “complex styles I think is what’s most important. Some of Jared’s style at the right moments absolutely drove the rhythm and made it sound so much tighter and connected, while Brooks complexity during fills or transitions played into the melody and rhythms of the guitar and made the song sound so much more technically advanced

  • @djr9999
    @djr9999 5 років тому +415

    Jared: arms
    Brooks: Wrists

    • @BoY860
      @BoY860 4 роки тому +20

      It's for visual apeal. If you play a simple beat and don't move it's not as effective visually. Most drummers do it.

    • @andythedrummer9642
      @andythedrummer9642 4 роки тому +26

      When you play slow beats, usually people use arms. When you get to some faster stuff, u should be using wrists.

    • @andythedrummer9642
      @andythedrummer9642 4 роки тому

      @Hanafi Ariffin no problem!

    • @augustus9992
      @augustus9992 4 роки тому +5

      @Hanafi Ariffin And if u play ever faster, you would be using fingers, but that takes a lot of practice.

    • @tonyvercetti8056
      @tonyvercetti8056 4 роки тому +1

      Brooks is so soft, I like it

  • @echoesreflected8243
    @echoesreflected8243 5 років тому +391

    Shred wars with Synyster Gates next please!!!

  • @singningwongho
    @singningwongho 5 років тому +329

    Jared, You're solid. Brooks, is amazing. Brooks' drumming on The Stage album is mind-blowing.

    • @xforever923
      @xforever923 4 роки тому +4

      I know! God damn is one of the best songs ever

    • @hazardgaminghg122
      @hazardgaminghg122 4 роки тому +1

      @@xforever923 the drums on that song are crazy.

    • @monzxsa
      @monzxsa 4 роки тому

      HazardGamingHG its not, but ok

    • @singningwongho
      @singningwongho 4 роки тому

      @@monzxsa So you're a percussionist now?

    • @monzxsa
      @monzxsa 4 роки тому

      singningwongho what was i before?

  • @CapnRiggs2k5
    @CapnRiggs2k5 4 роки тому +89

    When you can blend a mixture of simple and complexity into the song, you make a song go from good to great. And that simple to complex transition at around @2:35 was just perfect

    • @marjacu3809
      @marjacu3809 4 роки тому +8

      I think it's the best example to show how both are needed to add complexity to a song without overloading it with detail

    • @garyschu1004
      @garyschu1004 4 роки тому

      @@marjacu3809 agreed

    • @drwoods
      @drwoods Рік тому

      agree

  • @aidanl5611
    @aidanl5611 5 років тому +172

    next update video
    "Hi guys,
    just a quick update. my good friend brooks from A7X has asked me to tour with them."

    • @undeadfbgew
      @undeadfbgew 5 років тому +3

      aidan l - omg imagine 🥰

  • @Joker-qy2fv
    @Joker-qy2fv 5 років тому +346

    1/5 Not enough cowbell.

  • @lucaseduardo9097
    @lucaseduardo9097 5 років тому +288

    what a drummer avenged has now days, Brooks destroys it man.

    • @TheFreekill17
      @TheFreekill17 5 років тому +36

      The Rev will always be the best Aveneged drummer though

    • @DerrickRG
      @DerrickRG 5 років тому +37

      @@TheFreekill17 Not really bud. The best drummer to ever sit behind a kit for Avenged was Portnoy.

    • @TheFreekill17
      @TheFreekill17 5 років тому +47

      @@DerrickRG portnoy is a fuckin God but The Rev always glued the tracks together *perfectly*

    • @TheFreekill17
      @TheFreekill17 5 років тому +7

      @@DerrickRG all my opinion though, bud.

    • @rippindrummer666
      @rippindrummer666 5 років тому +20

      Brooks is better than the rev and portnoy. Portnoy is one of the most overrated drummers of all time, if you think he’s the best you haven’t heard many prog drummers. Go lookup mike portnoy vs billy Rymer drum battle, Billy rymer straight up embarrasses Portnoy.

  • @Lucky_2847
    @Lucky_2847 4 роки тому +34

    Brooks Wakerman though. Jesus Christ. Dude is next level man.

  • @Lastdragonrider88
    @Lastdragonrider88 5 років тому +212

    2:47-3:00 was perfect. Complex, incredibly musical and complementing the rest of what was going on so well.

    • @creatinovic
      @creatinovic 5 років тому +4

      my favorite part, too :)

    • @compulsive_curiosity
      @compulsive_curiosity 5 років тому +3

      made better by the drop back to a simple beat. anyone who argues purely for one or the other misses the point of variety!

    • @jnkny
      @jnkny 5 років тому

      William Machado just wanted to write exactly that 👍😄

    • @Lastdragonrider88
      @Lastdragonrider88 5 років тому

      @@compulsive_curiosity Of course, but this part stood out as a perfect example of what complexity coupled with great musicality can achieve, even taken out of context and just heard on its own, this part still shines as an incredible and mature musical statement. Obviously this section is creating tension that will be resolved with the drop, Brooks understands that and enhanced the tension to its absolutely highest point before the 'drop', the drop wouldn't feel so good if the tension part wasn't so expertly done (and vice versa as you state), so both parts are working together.

  • @theheritic209
    @theheritic209 5 років тому +250

    Obviously the last name Wackerman bestows drum powers on whoever has it.
    Cause Chad Wackerman is crazy too.

    • @danepresley7851
      @danepresley7851 5 років тому +2

      Pretty sure one of them was Holdsworths drummer

    • @theheritic209
      @theheritic209 5 років тому +4

      Dane Presley oh u know ur fusion.
      and that was Chad.

    • @truthhelps2012
      @truthhelps2012 5 років тому +4

      Zappa too. The the list is actually very long for Brooks, Chad and John.

    • @danepresley7851
      @danepresley7851 5 років тому +3

      They are quite accomplished and extremely talented

    • @theheritic209
      @theheritic209 5 років тому +2

      Michael Comminos u just schooled me cause i didn’t know there was a John Wackerman

  • @midenking9651
    @midenking9651 5 років тому +67

    A blend of both! Knowing when to spunk your load and when not too is what creates amazing drum tracks.

    • @MrToco32
      @MrToco32 5 років тому

      Truth

    • @Cole-uz4xi
      @Cole-uz4xi 5 років тому

      That's what makes Wackerman such a great drummer, in my opinion

  • @renegadespaceman
    @renegadespaceman 4 роки тому +49

    Brooks has such a signature style of time-fuckery. This reminded me of the end of "Submission Complete" where Bad Religion basically just uleash him on the end of the track making it awesome squared.

  • @mexidancer
    @mexidancer 5 років тому +40

    This was really just like watching Brooks be Brooks and Jared giving us time to process what Brooks was playing

  • @ZRisyad
    @ZRisyad 4 роки тому +258

    With Jared's drumming sounded like Killswitch Engage song, Brook's sounded like Tool song

  • @holyordersoftheemperorsinq246
    @holyordersoftheemperorsinq246 5 років тому +15

    Simple for chorus, intro and breakdowns.
    Complex for lyrics, climax, tempo/key change and outro.

  • @novoice9286
    @novoice9286 5 років тому +252

    when youre a new drummer: "theyre both complex, i see no difference"

  • @GladHe8r
    @GladHe8r Рік тому +7

    I loved how the two styles blended so well throughout the song. There's a time for simple and complex in a song imo.

  • @TheNerdyGinger
    @TheNerdyGinger 5 років тому +196

    Brooks is really good at making things complex but tasteful. Wasn’t a fan of his first two segments, but the rest were all great. I especially loved his performance around 2:00

    • @RileyAiC
      @RileyAiC 3 роки тому

      the trampoline wrestling master himself again? good day

    • @TheNerdyGinger
      @TheNerdyGinger 3 роки тому

      @@RileyAiC 😁

    • @ExternusArmy
      @ExternusArmy 2 роки тому +3

      @@RileyAiC I think the simple just becomes boring over time. I mean how many times are you gonna hear the same on beat rhythm? Brooks is crushing totally new rhythms like every bar, it’s absolutely insane

  • @BasicMacik
    @BasicMacik 5 років тому +405

    Simple sounded best for easycore/metalcore. Complex was real proggy/groovy

    • @es0teric76
      @es0teric76 5 років тому +5

      Completely agree. Exactly what I was thinking

    • @silentechotwd4868
      @silentechotwd4868 5 років тому +8

      Agreed. I liked elements of the complex, but could only take a song or two before needing a breather. The simple is a good constant head banger that I would feel fine listening to for hours on end.

    • @nostrum7278
      @nostrum7278 5 років тому +6

      Tbh I gave points to each beat, and it came 4-5 in prefernce and this kinda says that its good to have some fills and complex beats besides a simple catchy beat.

    • @KuroShiiiiro
      @KuroShiiiiro 5 років тому +1

      Nick Macik Brooks is a great groovy drummer and A7x's music sounds great because of it, man ..

    • @millerhxc
      @millerhxc 5 років тому +1

      Exactly... although this now begs the question: Which genre is better????

  • @laneneece8815
    @laneneece8815 5 років тому +251

    Jared: did you guys enjoy the complex fills or the simple fills more
    Me: yes
    And were is the djent 2019 with Stevie
    And shred wars with gates

    • @skylargibson8599
      @skylargibson8599 5 років тому +4

      Lane Neece as much as I love Jared Gates would massacre him

    • @laneneece8815
      @laneneece8815 5 років тому +1

      Skylar Gibson true but it would be fun

  • @D-Man_Jam
    @D-Man_Jam 4 роки тому +468

    That's simple? I thought when you said "simple" you were talkin' AC/DC 'simple'.

    • @michaelcoknballs4757
      @michaelcoknballs4757 4 роки тому +40

      lars simpol

    • @UhOh_ItzJDX
      @UhOh_ItzJDX 4 роки тому +8

      well then it’d just be boring, that double bass does wonders

    • @bassandbaits287
      @bassandbaits287 4 роки тому +8

      Simple is different than basic because no disrespect to AC/DC but they use a simple rock beat

    • @zackstump5425
      @zackstump5425 3 роки тому

      Lmao

    • @corruptedstudiosentertainm3455
      @corruptedstudiosentertainm3455 3 роки тому +2

      @@SenorSeiryuu I think you're seriously underestimating how much harder that process was in those days. Things you can throw together in a DAW in thirty minutes could sometimes take three or four days. It just wasn't viable when you could mic things up and play and get the whole song recorded in a day or two rather than one section of a drum loop in three or four.

  • @anony_meows
    @anony_meows 5 років тому +66

    it's not a matter of simplicity vs complexity. this is a matter of which grooove suits better with the song

    • @sykosis1192
      @sykosis1192 5 років тому +1

      Yeah but even then that depends on personal taste as well, someone may find a complex groove fits it, someone else may find a simple groove fits it

    • @sykosis1192
      @sykosis1192 5 років тому +1

      Which is the point of the video, it's seeing which ones people prefer/think suit the song the most

  • @spudmagnum7394
    @spudmagnum7394 5 років тому +199

    Depends on what the song calls for! Something like this benefits from simple stuff but a more progressive band obviously benefits from the complex, creative drum parts

    • @MrErikwade
      @MrErikwade 5 років тому

      Spud Magnum..... agreed. Like this tune with the simple stuff better...

  • @bazzyg
    @bazzyg 5 років тому +119

    As an ex-drummer myself, I like both. It all really depends on the riff and and how much you want to highlight or compliment it.

    • @racanum379
      @racanum379 5 років тому +2

      why ex?, and yeah i agree, the complex is obviously a lot nicer but the entire songs worth would be overkill ,definitely simple is superior when youre giving room to breathe

    • @estebanmejia3473
      @estebanmejia3473 5 років тому

      Why ex?

    • @bazzyg
      @bazzyg 5 років тому

      @@estebanmejia3473 Gave up drumming a few years ago and haven't practised since. Bit rusty to say the least. Chris Adler, I am not.

  • @CharlesSeraphDrums
    @CharlesSeraphDrums 5 років тому +171

    The “complex” sounds like a collection of breakdowns and transitions that could very well sit in between the simple rhythm. The genre you chose to write the song in demands a certain type of drumming that needs to be solid and not overwhelming. Perhaps in a death or prog song, things would work out differently. So, both and none, really.

    • @scottsmith8162
      @scottsmith8162 5 років тому

      Carlos Alberto Carbajal Constantine LoL

    • @mikebarnes7441
      @mikebarnes7441 5 років тому +2

      @@scottsmith8162 perfectly worded man

  • @IsimplyWill
    @IsimplyWill 5 років тому +92

    Depends on the listener:
    As a drummer, i hear the simple beat and I'm like "oh yeah, that's cool" and start adding complexity in my mind as I listen and play along.
    The complex actually makes me stop and listen to the song because I'm like "wait, what the f*** did he just do?"

    • @bethyroddy8978
      @bethyroddy8978 5 років тому +5

      willy fleming I’ve never related to a comment so much 😂

    • @HaxoReSc
      @HaxoReSc 5 років тому +1

      Same! :D

  • @sideslick1024
    @sideslick1024 5 років тому +394

    It almost sound to me like Brooks' parts are acting like the drum fills to your (relatively) basic riding.
    They compliment each other very well.
    I'd love to hear full songs with each style, rather than the back-and-forth that this video provides.

  • @apb0327
    @apb0327 Рік тому +21

    Brooks is an amazing drummer and a good guy. Glad he joined A7X. I liked the complex more, but both were good for their own reasons.

  • @abhisekpanda5165
    @abhisekpanda5165 5 років тому +168

    Dream became true.... A7X and jared dines are in one video

    • @sethvaughn1931
      @sethvaughn1931 5 років тому +1

      Mr. Panda so I wasn’t the only one who screamed?

  • @Somawesomestuff
    @Somawesomestuff 4 роки тому +9

    Brooks has slowly become my favorite drummer. I love his playing style

  • @auricle6553
    @auricle6553 5 років тому +108

    Complex drums are great to throw into bridges and outros. Simple drums for the other parts of the song so we can focus on the other instruments as well.

    • @reynaldomorales5087
      @reynaldomorales5087 4 роки тому +1

      My thoughts exactly! Sometimes complexity can be distracting. As long as it's done tastefully I'm all for it. With that being said I thought both drummers in this video were excellent in their own respect.

    • @ossisuomalainen
      @ossisuomalainen 4 роки тому

      @@reynaldomorales5087 and then there's danny carey

    • @MozTheBoz
      @MozTheBoz 4 роки тому

      Mastodon says hi

  • @theddrums2083
    @theddrums2083 5 років тому +4

    I'm a fan of both for sure. But Brooks had so many unbelievably interesting grooves. Especially the intro and outro grooves, the doubles he plays on his ride is so badass.
    Killer video idea Jared

  • @ZackTheNever
    @ZackTheNever 5 років тому +386

    Lead guitar: Jared Dines
    Lead singer/Rhythm guitar: Matt Heafy
    Drums: Brooks Wackerman
    Bass guitar: ???
    Davie504???

  • @MuscleCarsLoveMe
    @MuscleCarsLoveMe 4 роки тому +35

    It really sounded like a drum off between A7X and Breaking Benjamin 😂

  • @petterihorn
    @petterihorn 5 років тому +317

    Sick drumming by Brooks, but the song was all screaming for simple drumming.

  • @the.Aruarian
    @the.Aruarian 5 років тому +178

    Having a complex rhythm section requires that the rest of the band is competent enough, though. 😂

    • @SilkandScrooge
      @SilkandScrooge 5 років тому +8

      Dave Blink 182 proves you wrong. Travis Barkers drum parts are crazy compared to those other two chumps.

    • @Abasedbymygrief
      @Abasedbymygrief 5 років тому +1

      Dirty Loops has some decently simple pop stuff but their bassist is EXTREMELY complex

    • @Javier11506
      @Javier11506 5 років тому

      @@SilkandScrooge although the other two destroy Travis Barker technique wise. Travis has speed but unlike Brooks he doesn't have the independace or groove which 9/10 are more important in drumming.

    • @kennyjimenez8713
      @kennyjimenez8713 5 років тому

      True, I mean just look at Tool

    • @casualcoup798
      @casualcoup798 5 років тому +1

      javier gardea I think he meant Mark and Tom as the “other two chumps”

  • @nathanlawrence656
    @nathanlawrence656 5 років тому +36

    The guitars needed the simple drums, but DDDAAAAMMMMNN... Wackerman is a epic piece of beast, wow.
    Great drumming from both of yall

    • @FinnBassFo
      @FinnBassFo 5 років тому

      Totally agree, the song called for simpler drums... but the guy is insane!

  • @SDCB754
    @SDCB754 4 роки тому +14

    I love how loosely Brooks holds the drumsticks, similar to the way Sean Kinney, of Alice in Chains, holds them.

  • @str1897
    @str1897 5 років тому +57

    Simplicity or complexity ?
    Groove !

    • @TheMullerClan
      @TheMullerClan 5 років тому +8

      I love complex drums but at certain points in this track I feel like Brooks chopped off the groove too much, makes whole parts of it feel like a big drumfill while the guitars just go on doing their thing :)

  • @Kat-yv5ye
    @Kat-yv5ye 5 років тому +165

    First of all, how the fuCk did you get Brooks to play in your bideo
    Second, i honestly go for the simple version

    • @MrMcHoonter
      @MrMcHoonter 5 років тому +1

      Mason Sanderson actually A7X has switched to prog so complex still definitely fits them

  • @shayanmoosavi9139
    @shayanmoosavi9139 5 років тому +215

    Wait.... Do you mean *the* brooks wackerman? The best drummer of avenged sevenfold after rev?
    That's awesome :)

    • @cute_cadaver6616
      @cute_cadaver6616 5 років тому +21

      Portnoy played for them for a while too. Brooks doesn't even come close to being their best drummer.

    • @herpderpinson6117
      @herpderpinson6117 5 років тому +26

      All_Hope_Is_Gone Yea but for the most part Porntoy was just playing parts the the Rev already wrote lol

    • @todorstoynov2362
      @todorstoynov2362 5 років тому +3

      @@herpderpinson6117 I think OP made that claim by comparing Brooks to Portnoy as a whole, nit just to what he did in A7X, i.e. stuff like his work in Dream Theatre.

    • @FabrizioPedrotti
      @FabrizioPedrotti 5 років тому +7

      And the best drummer Bad Religion ever had

    • @allannava361
      @allannava361 5 років тому +4

      Jimmy and Brooks are each unique in their own way. While I certainly love Jimmy’s style more no one can discredit Brooks since their the best in their own ways.

  • @manishmanbert8592
    @manishmanbert8592 2 роки тому +1

    i come to this video every once in a while just to admire brook's wrist movement. it's like he has left his hand dead and is only working with his arms. he's so loose on his wrist, it's amazing.

  • @m6rkf6rk6s
    @m6rkf6rk6s 5 років тому +75

    I'm a really big fan of twisted drums so I prefer the complex but the simple is awesome too

  • @imaclown12345
    @imaclown12345 5 років тому +20

    I just love how Brooks hit the drums with such accuracy and finesse, he looks so comfortable and effortless

  • @MusaTariq25
    @MusaTariq25 5 років тому +100

    Brooks murdered this, as expected

    • @FleetinDream
      @FleetinDream 5 років тому +7

      I will definitely always wish Jimmy was still alive, but Brooks is an amazing drummer to likely permanently fill the role. His technical skills are nearly Portnoy level

    • @garrettnorthrup
      @garrettnorthrup 5 років тому +8

      FleetingDream yeah he does play a lot like Jimmy. He nailed the prog style drumming on The Stage, and I can’t wait to see how his drumming fits into the next album

  • @ricogold
    @ricogold 4 роки тому

    Both in succession the way it is in the video is the best. Letting the riffs breathe with simplicity and then adding intricacy for the remaining bars of the same riff is dope.

  • @Kaustich
    @Kaustich 5 років тому +40

    As A7X being my favourite metal band, this video was 100/10, Both were amazing, keep up the great vids bro

  • @riodabo266
    @riodabo266 5 років тому +205

    To headbang, i prefer simple,. But to listen normally, i prefer di complex

    • @berkefiliz3410
      @berkefiliz3410 5 років тому +2

      Idk, I prefer both in a single song if that creates the correct mood

  • @raitoxote
    @raitoxote 5 років тому +37

    The work Brooks has done with A7X is incredible, one of the best (if not the best) metal-fusion drummers today

    • @502skater502
      @502skater502 5 років тому +1

      He's punk drummer he came from Bad religion.

    • @Calilou52
      @Calilou52 5 років тому

      Lulz

    • @brandonbuitenhuis5457
      @brandonbuitenhuis5457 5 років тому

      @@502skater502 so ? he isn't a good metal drummer ?

    • @bleh8789
      @bleh8789 5 років тому

      @@brandonbuitenhuis5457 meh

    • @502skater502
      @502skater502 5 років тому +3

      I'm just saying his roots are in punk rock. Bad Religion is one of my favorite bands. I saw Brooks with them in Cincinnati. Anything he does now is just a progression of his punk background. It's hard to see it as progress because Bad Religion is a far better band than A7X. If he's happy though that's awesome. He's a great drummer. Any band he decides to drum for is gonna be a better band with him in it.

  • @patmccrotch5373
    @patmccrotch5373 2 роки тому +5

    I fell in love with Brooks when he played for Bad Religion, love seeing that he's getting love from more than just the punk community! Dude is an absolute monster on drums. Jared's pretty damn good himself though, great all around musician for sure!

  • @pwh589
    @pwh589 5 років тому +62

    what brooks did in the solo is exactly how you should play when theres a solo, amazing player...

  • @drewsmithson9242
    @drewsmithson9242 5 років тому +10

    The fact you got Brooks to along side with you over the same beat just blows my mind yo. \M/

  • @davidtobing7744
    @davidtobing7744 5 років тому +94

    I’m a simple guy, I see Brooks, i click. He’s complex tho.

  • @jacobjames4537
    @jacobjames4537 5 років тому +81

    Brooks is so technical, I love his style
    Although I'm more of a simple man

    • @1guitarfreak4
      @1guitarfreak4 5 років тому +6

      Well mama told me... When i was young...

    • @unknown_entity2176
      @unknown_entity2176 5 років тому +3

      Listen closely...to what I say...

    • @chuy8339
      @chuy8339 5 років тому +4

      And if you do this it'll help you some sunny day

    • @dannygutz6999
      @dannygutz6999 5 років тому +1

      Jacob James that breakdown at 4:35 thoughh

  • @Keitel300
    @Keitel300 Рік тому +3

    Always keep coming back,just to see how a monster of drummer is Brooks,insane!

  • @digitaldeathsquid3448
    @digitaldeathsquid3448 5 років тому +33

    What I like about Brooks's approach to complexity is that it's not always just "busy". It's super proggy

  • @kerimmarsaoui1588
    @kerimmarsaoui1588 4 роки тому +30

    Im still amazed by the drums played by Brooks in "The Stage"
    Extremely juicy !

  • @zacherndon9521
    @zacherndon9521 5 років тому +77

    I feel like it's situational. Some parts the simple drumming was killer but others the complex drums were sick.

  • @endofhearts9987
    @endofhearts9987 3 роки тому

    Complex definitely gave it life for me . I did not realize how important drums where to the feel. Thank you.

  • @darryleffendi
    @darryleffendi 5 років тому +64

    Now do a shred war with Synyster Gates!

  • @112131415191213
    @112131415191213 5 років тому +26

    I was on the fence until 2:47 happened.
    Damn.

    • @xxXthekevXxx
      @xxXthekevXxx 5 років тому +1

      For me it was 3:13

    • @aldavidsemail
      @aldavidsemail 5 років тому +3

      @@xxXthekevXxx waitwaitwait... Is he playing a variation of the PURDIE SHUFFLE on a HEAVY METAL SONG!?!? Dang dude. It sounds so cool.

  • @solomon8833
    @solomon8833 5 років тому +37

    1. Complex with a dash of simple! I like variation.
    2. Brooks is a drumming god.

  • @thomasrowland2869
    @thomasrowland2869 4 роки тому +2

    The complex drumming makes them almost sound like different songs to me. Amazing.

  • @M1XEDBAG
    @M1XEDBAG 5 років тому +52

    If I ever get the chance to play drums in a band I know which one I’m going for........
    Simple, Complex, Simple, Complex, Simple, Complex, Simple, Complex, Simple, Complex, Simple, Complex

  • @Paul-dq8os
    @Paul-dq8os 3 роки тому

    Jared, first off I'll say I enjoyed the video, it was great. I also wanted to mention I appreciate how you adopt the "easier" skillset when you have guests on your channel and let them show off. Like we know you can play better than what you're playing here. But you're letting your guest be the one who shows off and be the one who looks more skilled. Kudos to you man, that's incredibly decent of you

  • @muhdaniqnurriffqi361
    @muhdaniqnurriffqi361 5 років тому +67

    Brooks wackerman with his drumming style..amazing💪💪

  • @sirnuketon6554
    @sirnuketon6554 5 років тому +263

    Jared’s a fantastic musician. Only reason I wanna play drums. Be like Jared Dines. Not Jared from Subway.

    • @fairyfromtheforest9502
      @fairyfromtheforest9502 5 років тому

      Ooohoohoof xD Agreed tho.

    • @GarboSweaty
      @GarboSweaty 5 років тому

      Jared from Subway might be a great musician too. We don't know for sure.

    • @arnavdman
      @arnavdman 5 років тому +1

      No.

    • @ugsdit5296
      @ugsdit5296 5 років тому +1

      @@GarboSweaty but he is a horrible kindergarten employee

    • @wilddogv2.082
      @wilddogv2.082 5 років тому

      Sir Nuketon XDDDDDDD

  • @cokiecat1013
    @cokiecat1013 5 років тому +27

    i loved the complex! the simple was nice too, but dude the complex one was just that extra bit of spice that it needed and i love it! COMPLEX RULES

  • @MrsWendyx
    @MrsWendyx 4 роки тому +2

    Brooks is a beast. Love that dude.

  • @Stubbert
    @Stubbert 5 років тому +4

    Brooks Is a BEAST. I love the simple beat but, Brooks has fantastic flavor and style to his drumming that can often times be lacking in a lot of metal.

  • @AltarexLuurkesien
    @AltarexLuurkesien 5 років тому +71

    To be honest, I generally prefer simple drum beats and powerful riffs.
    BUT there are some complex or progressive songs that I love.

  • @A_Tempest
    @A_Tempest Рік тому

    I find one of the things Brooks is really good at is playing complex sections without it sounding busy, so you get the benefits of a simple beat - not overpowering the song/ cluttering, with all the added depth

  • @avrahams1
    @avrahams1 5 років тому +72

    I'm a simple man - I see A7X in the title, I click.
    Love that band, probably my favorite band along with Sabaton!