Simple VS Complex Drums (ft. Brooks Wackerman A7X)

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  • @JaredDines_
    @JaredDines_  4 роки тому +356

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    • @jhoubim
      @jhoubim 4 роки тому +2

      Where i found this track?

    • @andrewperu1471
      @andrewperu1471 4 роки тому +2

      Do a vid with timothy molloy from our last night band🔥🔥

    • @batmanwayne5159
      @batmanwayne5159 4 роки тому

      I think they’re both good, My personal opinion, I would do the simplistic part with Brooks Trashy Cymbals to give it more power.

    • @Azaezlle
      @Azaezlle 4 роки тому

      I like the complex one better. I wish the guitars and bass had been cut lower though so we could more clearly hear the drums.

    • @zeemeerjin9619
      @zeemeerjin9619 4 роки тому +1

      Where do you find these tracks?

  • @stevenwilliams9108
    @stevenwilliams9108 5 років тому +6509

    Brooks Wackerman: *Moves wrist one time*
    *12 hits are clearly audible*

    • @inzukad2694
      @inzukad2694 5 років тому +11

      😂😂😂

    • @billiejoeeyelash
      @billiejoeeyelash 5 років тому +157

      Nothing can ever replace the Rev but he will do. RIP

    • @way2sh0rt07grad
      @way2sh0rt07grad 5 років тому +70

      Killjøy Clique he’s got that same style by playing off beat clean rhythms

    • @Glowstick48
      @Glowstick48 5 років тому +103

      Pure talent and a lifetime of practice dudes a true master of the instrument

    • @joelguzman9280
      @joelguzman9280 5 років тому +142

      @@billiejoeeyelash hes not replacing hes simply tag teaming in while the rev rests

  • @CameronFleury
    @CameronFleury 5 років тому +987

    Depends on the musical application. Both can work. And holy shit Brooks Wackerman \M/

    • @ammarD
      @ammarD 5 років тому +1

      This.

    • @royalcat10
      @royalcat10 5 років тому +23

      I've always felt that simple vs complexity comes down to what the song is intended to do. If it's intended to just make you want to move, simplicity is where it's at. I mean, just a basic four on the floor beat works wonders in just making someone tap their foot, or bob their head, or move in any way. I guess that's why pop music tends to be simple, it's just meant to dance to. But music that is meant to be *listened* to is when you want complexity. The music that makes you have to think about what you're hearing. Neither is inherently worse than the other, they just have different applications.
      Obviously, it's possible to combine these with the right mind set / skill, but just as a generalization.

    • @yanbar3433
      @yanbar3433 5 років тому +8

      Next up: Animals as Leaders song with some standard Rock drums and some Rock song with Animals as Leaders style drums.
      Woud be funny to hear and would really give you an example of what the drum beat does to the music.

    • @rudowakening3638
      @rudowakening3638 5 років тому

      Brooks is the man! His brother Chad might be even better

    • @sharcotics
      @sharcotics 5 років тому

      Brooks Wackerman was the drummer for Bad Religion, a band that A7X has admitted to listening to a lot and taking some influence from OFC he kicks some ass

  • @rafaelklitschko4085
    @rafaelklitschko4085 4 роки тому +2101

    Basically, Hail to the King vs. The Stage

    • @zoda761
      @zoda761 3 роки тому +75

      Unrated comment, you deserve thousand likes

    • @idhamnnn
      @idhamnnn 3 роки тому +11

      Arin > brook

    • @wiraaditama86
      @wiraaditama86 3 роки тому +141

      @@idhamnnn no

    • @mattfetzer
      @mattfetzer 3 роки тому +56

      @@idhamnnn soft disagree

    • @idhamnnn
      @idhamnnn 3 роки тому +5

      Eyyy eyyy ..i need power ..not modification

  • @Fraggr92
    @Fraggr92 3 роки тому +284

    It's not so much about which is "better", it's about knowing how to do both and more importantly WHEN to do both. There's a time for simplicity and a time for complexity.

    • @tobiart1617
      @tobiart1617 3 роки тому +5

      Well said

    • @nathanwhiting5475
      @nathanwhiting5475 3 роки тому +4

      Exactly. This also applies to basically every instrument.

    • @vulna9150
      @vulna9150 2 роки тому

      Well said x2

    • @mquin2112
      @mquin2112 2 роки тому

      Someone did a video comparing Ringo Starr's drumming which in itself was "simple" but how he knew exactly how to make it fit the song vs complexity and how it can take away from it. Knowing the difference is what makes a good drummer great.

    • @hadifelani
      @hadifelani 2 роки тому

      exactly, by having the simple one come first before the complex one, it made the song sounds fuller and if we didn't pay attention to the video it does sounds like a proper transition as a single music instead of a comparison

  • @GuitarsRockForever
    @GuitarsRockForever 5 років тому +561

    Both. Some parts needs simple, some sound better with complex.

    • @giannispaterakis2991
      @giannispaterakis2991 5 років тому +3

      Exactly

    • @SynthApprentice
      @SynthApprentice 5 років тому +6

      As a musician, your priority is to do justice to the track. Drumnastics aren't always appropriate.

    • @schprox
      @schprox 5 років тому +8

      So basically it needs balance

    • @treatabledisease3258
      @treatabledisease3258 5 років тому

      How Switzerland of you

    • @vadimmihaidarov7056
      @vadimmihaidarov7056 5 років тому

      I'm from Russia, and it's hard to say to me. My English is not very impressive, but you expressed my opinion. Thank you)

  • @modernheroix
    @modernheroix 5 років тому +1690

    Combo of both. There were simple pieces that fit way better and complex parts that grooved better

    • @valentinpau1434
      @valentinpau1434 5 років тому +7

      Agreed

    • @squilly6
      @squilly6 5 років тому +4

      Definitely

    • @Xyncx
      @Xyncx 5 років тому +45

      Exactly. There are always parts where what the guitarist is doing is more important than what the drummer is doing. Each person knowing when they should come in with something more complex or simple is what makes or breaks a band's sound. If every one is just doing super complex, highly technical stuff all at once, it's hard to pay attention to what's going on, which ultimately detracts from the overall sound of the song.

    • @beccaortiz9029
      @beccaortiz9029 5 років тому

      Can't agree more!

    • @dantas6519
      @dantas6519 5 років тому

      True

  • @shquefferyjonesbonesiii7943
    @shquefferyjonesbonesiii7943 3 роки тому +122

    Brooks does a really good job making the drums sound and feel like a real instrument used for more than just keeping time. His playing just adds a layer of taste.

    • @ExternusArmy
      @ExternusArmy Рік тому +5

      It’s very melodic and musical. It’s not just rhythms but playing with the sounds and tones to create what are essentially melodies.

  • @Sobitachi
    @Sobitachi 3 роки тому +125

    2:57 that double bass combined with choking cymbals...🔥🔥

    • @nathanlawrence656
      @nathanlawrence656 3 роки тому +6

      It sounds sweeter because his kicks are so solid

    • @Sobitachi
      @Sobitachi 2 роки тому +9

      @@nathanlawrence656 it's Brooks we r talking about man!

    • @xfrostyresonance8614
      @xfrostyresonance8614 Рік тому +6

      @@Sobitachi The king of punk and now a destroyer of prog. What can't this man do? And yes, he is the KING of punk. Above Barker. Barker's amazing too, but Brooks somehow manages to play perfectly clean like a drum machine while maintaining groove. There's no weirdness.

    • @Sobitachi
      @Sobitachi Рік тому +5

      @@xfrostyresonance8614 Brooks is technically so advanced.. the wrist control and everything is just perfect..

  • @benhemsworth8555
    @benhemsworth8555 5 років тому +340

    They’re essentially different but equal. Making the drums complex shifts the focus to the drums, while keeping it simple puts the emphasis on the guitar work and bass.
    So it just depends on what part is being done.

    • @bipbipletucha
      @bipbipletucha 5 років тому

      Ye

    • @deductivereasoning4257
      @deductivereasoning4257 5 років тому +10

      I liked both. Then again, I like progressive metal. I like the simple beat, then the complex one. Then, I like a different simple beat and a different complex one. It kept progressing. All that was missing was 5 minutes of guitar noodling...

    • @uncommoneditor9916
      @uncommoneditor9916 5 років тому

      Really

    • @TheLightweaver777
      @TheLightweaver777 5 років тому +4

      Also, the simple beats don't change the feel of a riff nearly as much as a complex drum pattern will.

    • @sczarface
      @sczarface 5 років тому

      I completely agree. Both sound great in their own respect.

  • @kaoquinn
    @kaoquinn 5 років тому +739

    A mixture of both LOL there were parts in the simple that I liked and parts in the complicated that I liked.

    • @fantomagnik
      @fantomagnik 5 років тому +14

      Yeah this sums it up perfectly tbh

    • @lilyrecords7521
      @lilyrecords7521 5 років тому +15

      Yea I think a mixture of both is the better than one of them only

    • @Vanessa-iw9ei
      @Vanessa-iw9ei 5 років тому +5

      Yess, exactly

    • @nicholai414
      @nicholai414 5 років тому +20

      I think that a mix gives the track the feel of breathing. The Simple lets the guitars shine and the Complex brings an energy and sense of urgency to ths mix. Very well done.

    • @jodyshortland9875
      @jodyshortland9875 5 років тому +2

      Kevin O'Quinn agreed!! With the some of the transitions from complex to tech and vice versa there were moments where it felt natural to go in that direction. What i did like about both was the change in tempo and both had breaks and fills that built it up and brung it down to headbang along to 🤘 great work from both!! 🥁

  • @hoshikiraa9193
    @hoshikiraa9193 3 роки тому +867

    Let's just pray Brooks never gonna leave A7X...

    • @shootthemessengerband
      @shootthemessengerband 3 роки тому +52

      For real. Brooks has a great playing style for a7x

    • @dkd7670
      @dkd7670 3 роки тому +17

      @@ripvanwinkle1639 Imagine both of them playing together. If they dont, we riot

    • @goncalobaia1574
      @goncalobaia1574 3 роки тому +2

      @@dkd7670 unless they divide parts that wouldn't be a good idea

    • @AshleyAllysia
      @AshleyAllysia 3 роки тому +6

      im sorry. im from the future and i have a bad news to tell you man

    • @hoshikiraa9193
      @hoshikiraa9193 3 роки тому +1

      @@AshleyAllysia dang it

  • @lewy_g_official
    @lewy_g_official 2 роки тому +39

    What Brooks was doing wasn't just complex, but incredibly creative and that's what a lot of people look over.

    • @JacobC479
      @JacobC479 2 місяці тому

      Exactly, people think complex usually just means fast and hard. Sometimes you hear something that isn’t necessarily expert level but the creativeness of it and the way it switches the sound is just incredible.

  • @SlapMyBass3825
    @SlapMyBass3825 5 років тому +256

    I love how casual these interactions are. “So I am jamming with the drummer from A7X, no big deal.”

    • @Yigzdrums
      @Yigzdrums 5 років тому +6

      Rev and brooks come back and do a dual drum battle with dines. Itd be so sickkk

    • @shayanmoosavi9139
      @shayanmoosavi9139 5 років тому +4

      @@Yigzdrums rev is dead :(

    • @jakerochelle1484
      @jakerochelle1484 5 років тому +5

      Deck O'Donnel rev has been dead for like ten years. Wym

    • @luigialexander3781
      @luigialexander3781 5 років тому +3

      @@jakerochelle1484 He is not dead he is just in the woods

    • @joefrayling9263
      @joefrayling9263 5 років тому +3

      @@luigialexander3781 true and when he comes back he gunna be the knife master

  • @sloth_e
    @sloth_e 5 років тому +1113

    This vid is a great example of how mixing it up is best. Basic had so much impact after complex. And complex becomes so interesting after some basic . Balance is key.

  • @andikardian9014
    @andikardian9014 3 роки тому +163

    Brook's style is much proggy than the simple one, and i love prog metal.

  • @matthewkoeppel8742
    @matthewkoeppel8742 4 роки тому +89

    Versatility and the proper use of both “simple” and “complex styles I think is what’s most important. Some of Jared’s style at the right moments absolutely drove the rhythm and made it sound so much tighter and connected, while Brooks complexity during fills or transitions played into the melody and rhythms of the guitar and made the song sound so much more technically advanced

  • @hotdogslayer4430
    @hotdogslayer4430 5 років тому +8852

    How about next is Simple vs Complex Guitar (ft. Synyster Gates)
    Hahaha

  • @CardboardSliver
    @CardboardSliver 5 років тому +424

    The complex sounds awesome, but the simple one flowed perfectly with the music

    • @thiendipham835
      @thiendipham835 5 років тому

      Cardboard Silver it’s fit with the track as well :D

    • @niccololuciani6701
      @niccololuciani6701 5 років тому +1

      That' s why is trivial

    • @nicvv4853
      @nicvv4853 5 років тому

      This

    • @electricant55
      @electricant55 5 років тому

      Simple flows with the music but the music flows with the complex

    • @TheDwarburton
      @TheDwarburton 5 років тому +6

      The whole point of the complex is to not only flow with the music but to add it's own properties. Complex is great if it's done correctly, otherwise it'll just sound like it doesn't fit, or it'll take attention away from other elements of the song

  • @ItsSvetsi
    @ItsSvetsi 3 роки тому +55

    "How close do you want the snare mic, Jared"
    "Yes."

  • @Lucky_2847
    @Lucky_2847 3 роки тому +34

    Brooks Wakerman though. Jesus Christ. Dude is next level man.

  • @thebasketballhistorian3291
    @thebasketballhistorian3291 5 років тому +1626

    I liked the simple one for keeping the main flow of the song.
    The complex one was better for transitions, the bridge, and the ending.

    • @michaelhodges6493
      @michaelhodges6493 5 років тому +35

      I agree 100%. As a drummer myself I follow a rule of k.i.s.s. keep it simple stupid.

    • @brianlovebear
      @brianlovebear 5 років тому +3

      Agreed

    • @menedon9599
      @menedon9599 5 років тому +4

      Yeah agree too.

    • @janobpl
      @janobpl 5 років тому +4

      Exactly what I was going to write!

    • @ssfguitar
      @ssfguitar 5 років тому +9

      Musician's in general have to remember to make everything not so busy. Space is always a must.

  • @d-a-e
    @d-a-e 5 років тому +347

    Drummer’s Goal: To start off playing simple then catch everyone off guard by doing complex shit. Respect is earned as such

    • @jeffbell4434
      @jeffbell4434 5 років тому +2

      Lol that's kind of exactly what I always do when showing off in front of a group of people.

    • @theflyingcrud
      @theflyingcrud 5 років тому +2

      Definitely agree. I think it sounds really good too.

    • @SynthApprentice
      @SynthApprentice 5 років тому +1

      The respect of other drummers, maybe, but maybe not the respect of your band mates.

    • @matthewd6306
      @matthewd6306 5 років тому +1

      Even better write complex Drum parts that don't rely on straight double bass and fills. Incorporate Jazz High hat parts, polyrythms, and african tom beats. Bonus if you can play rudiments on bass drum instead of the typical metal double bass.

    • @theflyingcrud
      @theflyingcrud 5 років тому +1

      @@matthewd6306 Both ways are fine. I like playing both simple and more complex drum parts. Most important to play to the song. Personally, I typically only use double bass for fills or extra flavor

  • @renegadespaceman
    @renegadespaceman 4 роки тому +50

    Brooks has such a signature style of time-fuckery. This reminded me of the end of "Submission Complete" where Bad Religion basically just uleash him on the end of the track making it awesome squared.

  • @ZRisyad
    @ZRisyad 4 роки тому +258

    With Jared's drumming sounded like Killswitch Engage song, Brook's sounded like Tool song

  • @ignaciooo___
    @ignaciooo___ 5 років тому +1774

    Next video: "Jared Dines Playing with Avenged Sevenfold"
    Next next video: "More details about Jared Dines and Matt Heafy Breakup"

    • @ilkrsrc081
      @ilkrsrc081 5 років тому +3

      you meant matt shadows? lol

    • @Adnonnymous
      @Adnonnymous 5 років тому +34

      @@ilkrsrc081 no, he did a lot of videos with Matt Heafy from trivium a while back

    • @nWoandDX4life
      @nWoandDX4life 5 років тому +14

      He even played with Trivium during their european tour.

    • @drew9584
      @drew9584 5 років тому

      It must have been matts new signature double strap..... Because nothing is more metal than saying im a bigger pussy than anyone else has been over the lifetime of the electric guitar... Guitarists are such pussies. Bitch pick up an ernie ball, play for an hour and tell me your cute little less paul is "too heavy".

    • @iniquity7
      @iniquity7 5 років тому +21

      @@drew9584 wtf are u even ranting about, u came up with this whole scenario in ur head, Jesus Christ. What are u ranting about no one even brought up any point in ur rant at all lol. U must have been holding that in for so long it finally exploded haha.
      PS I Love heavy guitars because they sound thicker and fuller

  • @jeffreydhill
    @jeffreydhill 5 років тому +306

    My answer to the question of simple or complex is: “Yes.”

  • @LilyRose-rp5dm
    @LilyRose-rp5dm 4 роки тому +2077

    As much as I like Brooks Wackerman. Let's all have a moment of silence for Jimmy "The Rev" Sullivan. Rest in peace my guy.

    • @jrowland6717
      @jrowland6717 4 роки тому +69

      You can't beat the drumlines from Beast and the Harlot.. You just can't.. 😪

    • @LilyRose-rp5dm
      @LilyRose-rp5dm 4 роки тому +50

      @@jrowland6717 City of evil itself is just too good to beat.

    • @mariouz313
      @mariouz313 4 роки тому +51

      @@LilyRose-rp5dm the stage is just as good guys

    • @theritzerclub873
      @theritzerclub873 4 роки тому +4

      R.I.P. 😢😢

    • @Soybean13
      @Soybean13 4 роки тому +58

      What?? Respect to my man jimmy but drum line in the beast & the harlot is a generic double bass drumline...the stage is a7x most techincal album they ever released.
      Skill wise brooks is way better than jimmy, but i always choose jimmy over brooks not because the skill but the emotional attachment

  • @travboat
    @travboat 3 роки тому +25

    I love Brooks' drumming on Bad Religion's "The Empire Strikes First" album, the intensity is straight up relentless on that one.

  • @MarktheAirsoftPrimate
    @MarktheAirsoftPrimate 5 років тому +341

    Holy poops. Brooks timing and rhythm are just other worldly. Both work, in certain parts complex was too much, simple was not enough, either way this is awesome.

    • @krisgardner7160
      @krisgardner7160 5 років тому +7

      Brooks was a good fit for a7x because he and the Rev both have a kinda non conventional approach to their rhythms but Brooks and Jimmy are still booth totally unique

    • @michaelhodges6493
      @michaelhodges6493 5 років тому +2

      A good transition back and forth from simple to complex would of really been insane. I prefer to keep things simple though

    • @MrCole58
      @MrCole58 5 років тому +5

      Somewhere right in the middle, flair is good in moderation and it makes things interesting , but too much can take away from that essential rhythmic foundation. The simple drumming had a very easily identifiable pulse, but it can get boring pretty quick. A combination of the two would be interesting while still retaining utility.

    • @dylanlapenna8513
      @dylanlapenna8513 5 років тому +1

      You should UA-cam search Terry Bozzio. Honestly he makes Neil Peart from Rush look like a chump.

  • @alfonsoturco1697
    @alfonsoturco1697 5 років тому +616

    Brooks: OK, when can I start the complex part?
    Jared: what? You already played it.
    Brooks: I was warming up dude

    • @jrmcrlmorales
      @jrmcrlmorales 5 років тому +23

      I really love how he also has that The Rev vibe of making it look so easy.

    • @micke989
      @micke989 5 років тому +3

      So true

    • @rzrjf_2063
      @rzrjf_2063 5 років тому +2

      Oh oh someone's in trouble

    • @plasfariablarkaanisa9640
      @plasfariablarkaanisa9640 5 років тому +12

      @@jrmcrlmorales He makes it look ALMOST EASY. Sorry I will leave now.

    • @afmartins666
      @afmartins666 5 років тому

      The Ravi Shankar effect.

  • @CapnRiggs2k5
    @CapnRiggs2k5 4 роки тому +89

    When you can blend a mixture of simple and complexity into the song, you make a song go from good to great. And that simple to complex transition at around @2:35 was just perfect

    • @marjacu3809
      @marjacu3809 4 роки тому +8

      I think it's the best example to show how both are needed to add complexity to a song without overloading it with detail

    • @garyschu1004
      @garyschu1004 4 роки тому

      @@marjacu3809 agreed

    • @drwoods
      @drwoods 10 місяців тому

      agree

  • @apb0327
    @apb0327 Рік тому +21

    Brooks is an amazing drummer and a good guy. Glad he joined A7X. I liked the complex more, but both were good for their own reasons.

  • @jackd.95
    @jackd.95 5 років тому +436

    I know a7x was trying to find that perfect sound that they got from Jimmy for a long time and they've found it with brooks

    • @enragedmoosemedia
      @enragedmoosemedia 5 років тому +55

      Couldn't agree more. Brooks fits so perfectly. Still miss the rev though. Miss his vocals and creativity.

    • @stonertheespeon2975
      @stonertheespeon2975 5 років тому +36

      Jimmy also sang vocals and played a various amount of instruments. He also wrote some of their best songs. I may miss him dearly because he was taken from us so early but I'm happy they found Brooks, The dude's a beast!

    • @josephotto4816
      @josephotto4816 5 років тому +7

      Saw them shortly after Brooks joined, and I was floored. He’s doing a stellar job and his sound meshes so well

    • @blakeunderwood1075
      @blakeunderwood1075 5 років тому +7

      No love for Mike Portnoy?

    • @MrEwan13
      @MrEwan13 5 років тому +7

      @@blakeunderwood1075 tbh portnoy would fits really well with a7x, brooks were okay,but portnoy on nightmare album for me was much better than brooks on their latest album. just my opinion though

  • @jesusmallen397
    @jesusmallen397 5 років тому +2564

    Next simple vs complex guitars ft Synyster Gates 🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼

  • @abagz3919
    @abagz3919 4 роки тому +245

    I have his drumstick. I caught it when he threw it into the audience

    • @libsoric6693
      @libsoric6693 4 роки тому +36

      Did you eat it ? I hear it's a pretty good icecream brand

    • @bigchungus3399
      @bigchungus3399 4 роки тому +10

      Pat Libsoraled I feel stupid for laughing at this

    • @rubemevangelista3868
      @rubemevangelista3868 3 роки тому +7

      that's true, I was the air cut by the flying drumstick

    • @baekksong3970
      @baekksong3970 3 роки тому +6

      that's true, i was the drumstick

    • @helderlourenco2011
      @helderlourenco2011 3 роки тому +8

      @@baekksong3970 yes I confirm, I was the truth

  • @GladHe8r
    @GladHe8r Рік тому +7

    I loved how the two styles blended so well throughout the song. There's a time for simple and complex in a song imo.

  • @AanKhunaifi
    @AanKhunaifi 5 років тому +732

    next up Simple vs Complex Clarinet ft. Squidward

  • @miggytiamzon2076
    @miggytiamzon2076 5 років тому +154

    Brooks: yeah, this is my "simple."

    • @Julien869
      @Julien869 5 років тому +1

      He was like "Wait, I thought you asked ME to do the simple parts."

  • @MuscleCarsLoveMe
    @MuscleCarsLoveMe 3 роки тому +35

    It really sounded like a drum off between A7X and Breaking Benjamin 😂

  • @Somawesomestuff
    @Somawesomestuff 4 роки тому +9

    Brooks has slowly become my favorite drummer. I love his playing style

  • @camilogonzalez5728
    @camilogonzalez5728 5 років тому +191

    I like both styles. Some songs sounds better simple, others works better with complex techniques. But if it's A7X songs I choose complexity.

    • @emanueltorres3560
      @emanueltorres3560 5 років тому +5

      I also like their use of contra melody at slow but also when then it picks up quickly and its still melody and a contra melody and then when drums are just equally as complex it's just an eargasm a lot times I don't even think how are they doing that I just sit back and enjoy.

  • @joefromaccounting7818
    @joefromaccounting7818 4 роки тому +716

    With a name like Brooks Wackerman, he was DESTINED to be a drummer

    • @randomuser-vs3oe
      @randomuser-vs3oe 4 роки тому +49

      all of his brothers and father are also drummers, making him even more destined.

    • @dasbrando4570
      @dasbrando4570 4 роки тому +41

      How do you play drums? "Whack er, man"

    • @moderusprime
      @moderusprime 4 роки тому +14

      Or a gardener.

    • @drummerboyarnold3174
      @drummerboyarnold3174 4 роки тому +1

      Even a Ninja What are you saying 😂😂😂

    • @jc3drums916
      @jc3drums916 4 роки тому +6

      @@randomuser-vs3oe Two of three brothers are drummers. One is a bassist.

  • @SDCB754
    @SDCB754 4 роки тому +14

    I love how loosely Brooks holds the drumsticks, similar to the way Sean Kinney, of Alice in Chains, holds them.

  • @JustButtahOfficial
    @JustButtahOfficial 4 роки тому +16

    If this is how Brooks plays normally, imagine if on the next A7X album he got a drum solo.

  • @natemiller3280
    @natemiller3280 4 роки тому +1702

    Ok I’m gonna be the one to say it, there was no “age old question” for simplicity or complexity, he just wanted to do a video with Brooks Wackerman

    • @levibeam100
      @levibeam100 4 роки тому +46

      It is though. Simplicity vs Technicality has always been an argument.

    • @gustavodelacruz646
      @gustavodelacruz646 4 роки тому +41

      @@levibeam100 i think a mixture of both can do wonders for a song, you can amplify a section of a song that needs it and keep it simple for parts that are good enough on their own

    • @chewypilot5639
      @chewypilot5639 4 роки тому +10

      Not entirely true, sometimes over complicating it makes it sounds worse or takes away from the song

    • @hazardgaminghg122
      @hazardgaminghg122 3 роки тому +1

      @@Xxfishman058xX_chad Well he did.

    • @nicknolder7042
      @nicknolder7042 3 роки тому +4

      Sometimes less is more, sometimes more is more, it depend on the context

  • @Trolejbusek
    @Trolejbusek 5 років тому +1213

    Combine those two together and you basically have a Dream Theater song

    • @Gyrossteeltesticles24
      @Gyrossteeltesticles24 5 років тому +67

      Rather coincidental since Portnoy played on Nightmare

    • @jamesdong8179
      @jamesdong8179 4 роки тому +5

      Or at least the drum track, but yea

    • @Cobalt985
      @Cobalt985 4 роки тому +33

      Haha, exactly what I was thinking. Portnoy has always been amazing at combining complex parts with simpler parts to form a more complete whole.

    • @chriskrausesmovie
      @chriskrausesmovie 4 роки тому +14

      Jared theater

    • @WillMaskellTaylor
      @WillMaskellTaylor 4 роки тому

      More like Oceans ate alaska or something

  • @patmccrotch5373
    @patmccrotch5373 2 роки тому +5

    I fell in love with Brooks when he played for Bad Religion, love seeing that he's getting love from more than just the punk community! Dude is an absolute monster on drums. Jared's pretty damn good himself though, great all around musician for sure!

  • @D-Man_Jam
    @D-Man_Jam 4 роки тому +468

    That's simple? I thought when you said "simple" you were talkin' AC/DC 'simple'.

    • @michaelcoknballs4757
      @michaelcoknballs4757 4 роки тому +40

      lars simpol

    • @UhOh_ItzJDX
      @UhOh_ItzJDX 3 роки тому +8

      well then it’d just be boring, that double bass does wonders

    • @bassandbaits287
      @bassandbaits287 3 роки тому +8

      Simple is different than basic because no disrespect to AC/DC but they use a simple rock beat

    • @zackstump5425
      @zackstump5425 3 роки тому

      Lmao

    • @corruptedstudiosentertainm3455
      @corruptedstudiosentertainm3455 3 роки тому +2

      @@Seiryuu03 I think you're seriously underestimating how much harder that process was in those days. Things you can throw together in a DAW in thirty minutes could sometimes take three or four days. It just wasn't viable when you could mic things up and play and get the whole song recorded in a day or two rather than one section of a drum loop in three or four.

  • @midenking9651
    @midenking9651 5 років тому +67

    A blend of both! Knowing when to spunk your load and when not too is what creates amazing drum tracks.

    • @MrToco32
      @MrToco32 5 років тому

      Truth

    • @Cole-uz4xi
      @Cole-uz4xi 5 років тому

      That's what makes Wackerman such a great drummer, in my opinion

  • @aidanl5611
    @aidanl5611 5 років тому +172

    next update video
    "Hi guys,
    just a quick update. my good friend brooks from A7X has asked me to tour with them."

    • @undeadfbgew
      @undeadfbgew 5 років тому +3

      aidan l - omg imagine 🥰

  • @brandonerickson1851
    @brandonerickson1851 3 роки тому +9

    I’m convinced that there is absolutely nothing that Brooks can’t play.

  • @iceixkiller1748
    @iceixkiller1748 4 роки тому +30

    When Brooks started all I could here was the opening or the bridge to a a7x song🤷🤷🤷

  • @thetalentedmrrapley
    @thetalentedmrrapley 5 років тому +155

    The best drummers utilise both. But as a drummer I have to love the complex.
    4:33 is perfection

  • @p_nsive1428
    @p_nsive1428 5 років тому +570

    Ask Syn to take part in 2019's biggest shred collab

    • @JustCarMuh
      @JustCarMuh 5 років тому +64

      Syn alone would demolish everyone else

    • @benmacdonald5445
      @benmacdonald5445 5 років тому +12

      Slxxpy Kxrma Except Angel Vivaldi. You don’t beat Angel Vivaldi.

    • @zeth9526
      @zeth9526 5 років тому +10

      @Ashish Gupta Synyster Gates - A7x's main guitarist

    • @ZackTheNever
      @ZackTheNever 5 років тому +1

      I 1000% agree with this

    • @zaidaljundi3462
      @zaidaljundi3462 5 років тому +10

      Have him get zacky as well and they can play together at the same time

  • @manishmanbert8592
    @manishmanbert8592 2 роки тому +1

    i come to this video every once in a while just to admire brook's wrist movement. it's like he has left his hand dead and is only working with his arms. he's so loose on his wrist, it's amazing.

  • @MrJoshDrums0490
    @MrJoshDrums0490 3 роки тому

    Now to the video, both approaches were awesome in their own way!
    Both approaches make the song unique. The simple makes it sound like a radio friendly tune, the complex is down right prog mastery.
    Drums are so important to a song and both approaches are just killer. Awesome video Jared! Amazing drumming Brooks!!

  • @holyordersoftheemperorsinq246
    @holyordersoftheemperorsinq246 5 років тому +15

    Simple for chorus, intro and breakdowns.
    Complex for lyrics, climax, tempo/key change and outro.

  • @Lastdragonrider88
    @Lastdragonrider88 5 років тому +212

    2:47-3:00 was perfect. Complex, incredibly musical and complementing the rest of what was going on so well.

    • @creatinovic
      @creatinovic 5 років тому +4

      my favorite part, too :)

    • @compulsive_curiosity
      @compulsive_curiosity 5 років тому +3

      made better by the drop back to a simple beat. anyone who argues purely for one or the other misses the point of variety!

    • @jnkny
      @jnkny 5 років тому

      William Machado just wanted to write exactly that 👍😄

    • @Lastdragonrider88
      @Lastdragonrider88 5 років тому

      @@compulsive_curiosity Of course, but this part stood out as a perfect example of what complexity coupled with great musicality can achieve, even taken out of context and just heard on its own, this part still shines as an incredible and mature musical statement. Obviously this section is creating tension that will be resolved with the drop, Brooks understands that and enhanced the tension to its absolutely highest point before the 'drop', the drop wouldn't feel so good if the tension part wasn't so expertly done (and vice versa as you state), so both parts are working together.

  • @Keitel300
    @Keitel300 Рік тому +3

    Always keep coming back,just to see how a monster of drummer is Brooks,insane!

  • @ashgr.5860
    @ashgr.5860 3 роки тому

    oh and the riffs are beautiful. sounds so soothing.

  • @wishnewsky
    @wishnewsky 5 років тому +60

    This mash-up of simple and complex is actually the best IMO

  • @djr9999
    @djr9999 5 років тому +416

    Jared: arms
    Brooks: Wrists

    • @BoY860
      @BoY860 4 роки тому +20

      It's for visual apeal. If you play a simple beat and don't move it's not as effective visually. Most drummers do it.

    • @andythedrummer9642
      @andythedrummer9642 4 роки тому +26

      When you play slow beats, usually people use arms. When you get to some faster stuff, u should be using wrists.

    • @andythedrummer9642
      @andythedrummer9642 4 роки тому

      @Hanafi Ariffin no problem!

    • @augustus9992
      @augustus9992 4 роки тому +5

      @Hanafi Ariffin And if u play ever faster, you would be using fingers, but that takes a lot of practice.

    • @tonyvercetti8056
      @tonyvercetti8056 4 роки тому +1

      Brooks is so soft, I like it

  • @TrulydaMoosey
    @TrulydaMoosey 3 роки тому

    Your love of coming along for the ride is well-'demon'strated. The natural swing you use for rolling on cymbals alone really shows your talent while staying humble.
    As a fellow musician of multiple traits, keep doing you, and thanks!

  • @jonrichards1989
    @jonrichards1989 4 роки тому

    Both have their place together in a well put together song. Great job

  • @TheNerdyGinger
    @TheNerdyGinger 4 роки тому +198

    Brooks is really good at making things complex but tasteful. Wasn’t a fan of his first two segments, but the rest were all great. I especially loved his performance around 2:00

    • @RileyAiC
      @RileyAiC 3 роки тому

      the trampoline wrestling master himself again? good day

    • @TheNerdyGinger
      @TheNerdyGinger 3 роки тому

      @@RileyAiC 😁

    • @ExternusArmy
      @ExternusArmy 2 роки тому +3

      @@RileyAiC I think the simple just becomes boring over time. I mean how many times are you gonna hear the same on beat rhythm? Brooks is crushing totally new rhythms like every bar, it’s absolutely insane

  • @mexidancer
    @mexidancer 5 років тому +40

    This was really just like watching Brooks be Brooks and Jared giving us time to process what Brooks was playing

  • @ricogold
    @ricogold 3 роки тому

    Both in succession the way it is in the video is the best. Letting the riffs breathe with simplicity and then adding intricacy for the remaining bars of the same riff is dope.

  • @endofhearts9987
    @endofhearts9987 3 роки тому

    Complex definitely gave it life for me . I did not realize how important drums where to the feel. Thank you.

  • @seventrials7989
    @seventrials7989 5 років тому +354

    Brooks it's a cool guy, Jimmy will proud to him
    #foREVer

    • @dankweed5049
      @dankweed5049 5 років тому +3

      Well they have a thing for taking drummers from their favorite bands (dream theatre,confide and bad religion) since he passed

    • @judgeshred9872
      @judgeshred9872 5 років тому

      Aziz Arzad i like what you did with that hashtag homie #REZpect

    • @judgeshred9872
      @judgeshred9872 5 років тому

      Meant to say revspect haha

    • @swat_ape3920
      @swat_ape3920 5 років тому +7

      Jimmy still needs to come back as the knife master... foREVer 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻

    • @sultanalif.m3137
      @sultanalif.m3137 5 років тому +4

      #foREVer

  • @getsosavage9841
    @getsosavage9841 5 років тому +92

    Alternating should be the way. That way it isn't too simple nor too complex

    • @ewan_mclean
      @ewan_mclean 5 років тому +1

      TheRedLester 22 I think so as well. Event though my music is more electronic, some concepts always relate

    • @v0lve3321
      @v0lve3321 5 років тому +1

      Was looking for this!

    • @swat_ape3920
      @swat_ape3920 5 років тому +1

      I agree

    • @TacTicMint
      @TacTicMint 5 років тому +1

      Complex builds tension and simple releases.

  • @MrsWendyx
    @MrsWendyx 3 роки тому +2

    Brooks is a beast. Love that dude.

  • @marcoafro8234
    @marcoafro8234 4 роки тому +13

    3:38 from that part, i feel some Dream Theater vibes

  • @singningwongho
    @singningwongho 4 роки тому +329

    Jared, You're solid. Brooks, is amazing. Brooks' drumming on The Stage album is mind-blowing.

    • @xforever923
      @xforever923 4 роки тому +4

      I know! God damn is one of the best songs ever

    • @hazardgaminghg122
      @hazardgaminghg122 4 роки тому +1

      @@xforever923 the drums on that song are crazy.

    • @monzxsa
      @monzxsa 3 роки тому

      HazardGamingHG its not, but ok

    • @singningwongho
      @singningwongho 3 роки тому

      @@monzxsa So you're a percussionist now?

    • @monzxsa
      @monzxsa 3 роки тому

      singningwongho what was i before?

  • @theheritic209
    @theheritic209 5 років тому +250

    Obviously the last name Wackerman bestows drum powers on whoever has it.
    Cause Chad Wackerman is crazy too.

    • @danepresley7851
      @danepresley7851 5 років тому +2

      Pretty sure one of them was Holdsworths drummer

    • @theheritic209
      @theheritic209 5 років тому +4

      Dane Presley oh u know ur fusion.
      and that was Chad.

    • @truthhelps2012
      @truthhelps2012 5 років тому +4

      Zappa too. The the list is actually very long for Brooks, Chad and John.

    • @danepresley7851
      @danepresley7851 5 років тому +3

      They are quite accomplished and extremely talented

    • @theheritic209
      @theheritic209 5 років тому +2

      Michael Comminos u just schooled me cause i didn’t know there was a John Wackerman

  • @ericjensen6034
    @ericjensen6034 4 роки тому

    I love them both....i cant decide...togther especially sounded amazing

  • @codyclark2780
    @codyclark2780 2 роки тому

    Both of you guys’ techniques are pretty sick. Each of you have your own flavor to add in. I think your style is what can make anybody wanna take up drumming & jam to a genre like this. Wackermans style here looks like it’s made for the more advance drummers’ eyes to feast upon, watching. It’s hard to decide.

  • @novoice9286
    @novoice9286 5 років тому +252

    when youre a new drummer: "theyre both complex, i see no difference"

  • @echoesreflected8243
    @echoesreflected8243 5 років тому +392

    Shred wars with Synyster Gates next please!!!

  • @Paul-dq8os
    @Paul-dq8os 3 роки тому

    Jared, first off I'll say I enjoyed the video, it was great. I also wanted to mention I appreciate how you adopt the "easier" skillset when you have guests on your channel and let them show off. Like we know you can play better than what you're playing here. But you're letting your guest be the one who shows off and be the one who looks more skilled. Kudos to you man, that's incredibly decent of you

  • @Teamcurtisbjj
    @Teamcurtisbjj 4 роки тому +2

    Great video! Brooks is one of my favorite drummers!

  • @arcadedomination8006
    @arcadedomination8006 4 роки тому +247

    2:33 is actually the perfect transition.

    • @ThePedroaugustobc
      @ThePedroaugustobc 4 роки тому +5

      That's bat country transition, you can hear it in the end of bat country - at that ballad part right after "my vision is so unclear"

    • @kalvinruth8571
      @kalvinruth8571 4 роки тому

      #Accurate

  • @bazzyg
    @bazzyg 5 років тому +118

    As an ex-drummer myself, I like both. It all really depends on the riff and and how much you want to highlight or compliment it.

    • @racanum379
      @racanum379 5 років тому +2

      why ex?, and yeah i agree, the complex is obviously a lot nicer but the entire songs worth would be overkill ,definitely simple is superior when youre giving room to breathe

    • @estebanmejia3473
      @estebanmejia3473 5 років тому

      Why ex?

    • @bazzyg
      @bazzyg 5 років тому

      @@estebanmejia3473 Gave up drumming a few years ago and haven't practised since. Bit rusty to say the least. Chris Adler, I am not.

  • @JeeTee_
    @JeeTee_ 3 роки тому +1

    I just got to say this but Jared is so talented. All of his guitar tracks sound so cool! Thanks Jared for making cool vids!

  • @thomasrowland2869
    @thomasrowland2869 4 роки тому +2

    The complex drumming makes them almost sound like different songs to me. Amazing.

  • @anony_meows
    @anony_meows 5 років тому +66

    it's not a matter of simplicity vs complexity. this is a matter of which grooove suits better with the song

    • @sykosis1192
      @sykosis1192 4 роки тому +1

      Yeah but even then that depends on personal taste as well, someone may find a complex groove fits it, someone else may find a simple groove fits it

    • @sykosis1192
      @sykosis1192 4 роки тому +1

      Which is the point of the video, it's seeing which ones people prefer/think suit the song the most

  • @sideslick1024
    @sideslick1024 5 років тому +395

    It almost sound to me like Brooks' parts are acting like the drum fills to your (relatively) basic riding.
    They compliment each other very well.
    I'd love to hear full songs with each style, rather than the back-and-forth that this video provides.

  • @joshuakarlsen740
    @joshuakarlsen740 3 роки тому +2

    Sick riff and bass line!

  • @justinbowen1183
    @justinbowen1183 3 роки тому

    That open closed high hat that brooks was doing sounded fantastic and added some great feel to it. It followed the rhythm track perfectly.

  • @DoctorTauri
    @DoctorTauri 5 років тому +225

    Brooks is such a monster. If you have a chance listen to The Stage drum tracks alone. Crazy stuff

    • @crocodilecrox3758
      @crocodilecrox3758 5 років тому +5

      Just listen to paradigm. The drums ARE the riff.

    • @CookTheCrook15
      @CookTheCrook15 5 років тому +1

      crocodile crox paradigm is my favorite

    • @RuiPalmeira
      @RuiPalmeira 5 років тому +3

      @@crocodilecrox3758 personal favorite is Exist, really. but every track on the album is just plain SOLID and really well written.

    • @atlys258
      @atlys258 5 років тому +3

      Pretty much the only reason I got back into them is that the drums are interesting/creative again.

    • @nostalgiajunkie
      @nostalgiajunkie 5 років тому +1

      atlys although they were going for a stylistic change in sound for their tribute album or whatever, I totally agree. Drums are such a huge element of the songwriting of that band and it was missing the entire time after portnoy finished up nightmare

  • @spudmagnum7394
    @spudmagnum7394 5 років тому +199

    Depends on what the song calls for! Something like this benefits from simple stuff but a more progressive band obviously benefits from the complex, creative drum parts

    • @MrErikwade
      @MrErikwade 5 років тому

      Spud Magnum..... agreed. Like this tune with the simple stuff better...

  • @tylerclark1801
    @tylerclark1801 4 роки тому

    Very intrigued by some of Brooks’s ride work and his use of groove very enjoyable video

  • @MrSnotrock3t
    @MrSnotrock3t 3 роки тому

    I LOVE the dynamic of going between simple and complex patterns more than anything. What I'd REALLY love to hear is this same thing but on the same kit same mics (when the pandemic subsides obviously)

  • @laneneece8815
    @laneneece8815 5 років тому +251

    Jared: did you guys enjoy the complex fills or the simple fills more
    Me: yes
    And were is the djent 2019 with Stevie
    And shred wars with gates

    • @skylargibson8599
      @skylargibson8599 5 років тому +4

      Lane Neece as much as I love Jared Gates would massacre him

    • @laneneece8815
      @laneneece8815 5 років тому +1

      Skylar Gibson true but it would be fun

  • @abhisekpanda5165
    @abhisekpanda5165 5 років тому +168

    Dream became true.... A7X and jared dines are in one video

    • @sethvaughn1931
      @sethvaughn1931 5 років тому +1

      Mr. Panda so I wasn’t the only one who screamed?

  • @AlldeLucas
    @AlldeLucas 3 роки тому

    My favorita is the mix of both. No doubt about that! I love a simples beat of a tast of complex stuff once in a while.

  • @vladimirstroganoff4404
    @vladimirstroganoff4404 4 роки тому

    I love both versions to be honest + both versions sounds good together like this.

  • @sohamadhikari2550
    @sohamadhikari2550 5 років тому +345

    Brooks starts playing the complex part.
    *LARS HAS LEFT THE CHAT*

    • @nukepacifista9188
      @nukepacifista9188 5 років тому +2

      HAHA! Lars was buried alive by the beast and the harlot to the afterlife like a rock, like a planet, like a fucking atom boooomb

    • @putuaditiyapratama7010
      @putuaditiyapratama7010 5 років тому +1

      😁😂

    • @aadarshthomasraj5018
      @aadarshthomasraj5018 5 років тому +2

      Lmao have you even seen Lars Ulrich cover dream theater's metropolis?

    • @Phildo117
      @Phildo117 5 років тому

      Always the one idiot with the Lars comment. Shut up

    • @sohamadhikari2550
      @sohamadhikari2550 5 років тому

      @@DestroyTheMindless Thanks for checking my profile xD. Please do subscribe :'3

  • @lucaseduardo9097
    @lucaseduardo9097 5 років тому +288

    what a drummer avenged has now days, Brooks destroys it man.

    • @TheFreekill17
      @TheFreekill17 5 років тому +36

      The Rev will always be the best Aveneged drummer though

    • @DerrickRG
      @DerrickRG 5 років тому +37

      @@TheFreekill17 Not really bud. The best drummer to ever sit behind a kit for Avenged was Portnoy.

    • @TheFreekill17
      @TheFreekill17 5 років тому +47

      @@DerrickRG portnoy is a fuckin God but The Rev always glued the tracks together *perfectly*

    • @TheFreekill17
      @TheFreekill17 5 років тому +7

      @@DerrickRG all my opinion though, bud.

    • @rippindrummer666
      @rippindrummer666 5 років тому +20

      Brooks is better than the rev and portnoy. Portnoy is one of the most overrated drummers of all time, if you think he’s the best you haven’t heard many prog drummers. Go lookup mike portnoy vs billy Rymer drum battle, Billy rymer straight up embarrasses Portnoy.

  • @astel_xviii
    @astel_xviii 4 роки тому

    You're both amazing.