Throwing my 3600's stock cooler as hard as I could out my back door was the most cathartic thing I've done in years. The CPU went straight to 95c under load with the stock cooler. I reseated it three times and was prepared to RMA. I installed an Arctic Freezer 34 Duo and now the CPU tops out around 73c.
I was going to upgrade my stock cooler with the Arctic Freezer 34 Duo but found the Scythe Mugen Rev. B. Both are incredible performers for the price point!!! I ended up going with Scythe. My CPU under stress/extreme load tests hasn’t crossed 70c. I’ve been SOO happy.
Yeah man I get it. My 3800x was as hot as 43° at idle out of the box. Totally forced me to get an aio liquid cooling system. Even still it’s at 34° idle.
Another thing that people don't pay attention to is PPT, TDC and EDC limits. Sometimes the motherboards will start waaaaay overshooting those limits, which at safe voltages will still lead to heavy degredation. For example if I don't limit EDC in my bios, then it will shoot 150% of EDC limit into the CPU, even at something like 1,2v
Hello, thanks for the videos, i have a question and i would be very glad if you could answer. I did not want to set the voltage by using the manual mode as it makes the CPU run at certain mhz and certain voltage. I wanted to let it go up and down as the chip is built to work in auto mode (i have read a comment on your channel in another video saying it is not recommended to set the voltage in override mode, and you pinned that comment on top). So i decided to try offset mode. I have selected - 0.075 offset. And i got the same results in Cinebench (both single core and multi core benchmark results) when compared to full auto setting, it helped me lower the temp (i needed it as i was getting very very high temps in full auto mode). I have also run Aida stability test and it did not fail. So my question is it fully safe to use - offset voltage? I do not want degradation over time :) (Yes, i will try to get a better cooler asap as well)
Yesterday I discovered that, with my Ryzen 3600 plus its stock cooler, I could achieve the following all-core manual overclocks at the following voltages: 4100 MHz at 1.23125 volts ---> Cinebench R20 score of 3722 with peak temperature of 69.4 C 4150 MHz at 1.26875 volts ---> Cinebench R20 score of 3769 with peak temperature of 74.3 C 4200 MHz at 1.34375 volts ---> Cinebench R20 score of 3806 with peak temperature of 84.9 C Today after watching this video, I removed my all-core overclock and returned to stock. At stock, I get Cinebench scores around 3450 with peak temperature around 80 C. Although I get better perfomance with all-core OC, I am concerned about the long-term effects of constant voltage, even though my temperature looks cooler. I agree that the way to manage the annoying change in fan RPM is to set my CPU fan to a 75% from 0-70 degrees C, then set it at 100% at 75 degrees C.
I’m by no means a professional, but I’ve been researching the crap out of how to push the Ryzen 3600 to its “safe” limits. I heard on reddit that as long as your temps are below 80c most any voltages under 1.5 are safe, so I wouldn’t be concerned running 4.2ghz at 1.34v
Set an offset and leave the multis and vcore alone, I got better performance with an offset of - 0.375v got better performance in R20 with lower temps. I think it also depends heavily on the motherboard as well, a few manufacturers are too aggressive with the default settings. Aorus Master seems to behave pretty well at stock, but I was curious and undervolted a little, I got some extra performance out of it.
Got ur point, but starting from an under construction 3700x with Noctua NH U14S & 1070TI GPU EVGA SC (ventilated) model, I understand all the heat will be spread into the CASE. I'm afraid not an ideal starting point. The case is a big one, like Bquiet 900 rev 2, but I already guess this thing will need to be open... I though : low TDP for both CPU & GPU, no need for watercooling, well not so sure now.
Water cooling is definitely not needed, noctua makes my favorite coolers and an open gpu should be fine as well. You just need to make sure you have too case airflow to get rid of all that heat
My 3400G stock cooler used to be very noisy at stock until i manually overclock to 4Ghz all core at 1.35v, and 1650Mhz igpu auto voltage.. I'm still new to pc building but that seems to work for now. No more noises.
Okay, so I've just tested my 3700x @1.25v and got an R20 score of 5000. PBO is enabled. I'm using an NZXT x53 240 AIO set up as exhaust with two 140mm intakes in my case; max CPU temp was 54c. My bios settings look like this (using a Crosshair Hero VIII X570): RAM 3600mhz cl16 (DOCP profile), FCLK 1800. Perfomance enhancer @ Level 3 (OC) Force OC mode: Disabled Sense MI Skew: Enabled CPU load line calibration: Level 4 CPU Power phase control: Extreme CPU current capability: 130% VRM spread spectrum: disabled Active frequency mode: Disabled CPU power thermal control: 120 VDDSOC load-line calibration: Level 4 VDDSOC current capability: 130% My PBO settings are: PPT limit: 300 TDC limit: 230 EDC limit: 230 PBO scalar: 2X Max CPU boost clock override: 200mhz Everything else is Auto,
Most of the guides I've seen into and this is by far the best settings I tried on my System. I got an R20 score of 4655. Using Vcore negative offset - 0.1000, My current cooling setup is a Corsair Hydro Series H60 (2018). Going to upgrade later for 240mm to achieve the same score as yours.
@@strife_97 www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/e8nne7/play_with_pbo_settings_dont_just_set_them_all_to/ read though this reddit post dude, most of those settings are actually irrelevant now from what I've learned Don't even use CB20 as a way of measuring your performance just open Ryzen Master and use Prime95 to stress test your CPU for a few seconds and see what your boosts are in Ryzen master. My PBO settings have changed now to PPT limit: 110 TDC limit: 55 EDC limit: 0 PBO scalar: 5X With a boost override of only 100mhz, not 200mhz (don't bother setting anything above 100mhz, it doesn't work and can actually lower your boosts) I found these settings by monitoring my PPT and TDC on Ryzen Master, stress testing with Prime95 and going into my BIOS to adjust my PPT and TDC. Just repeat until you find a limit that only reaches between 70-80% in Ryzen Master. EDC:0 sets your EDC to the 3700x's default EDC:90a, EDC is bugged apparently so it's best left at default because it maxes out to 100% regardless of settinmgs. These settings LOWER my CB20 score...but when I test with Prime95 my boost speeds are a MASSIVE improvement and my temps are lower, which is what counts. *This was with my voltage set to AUTO, no offsets. I also used the Ryzen High Performance power plan and found a 0.030mhz improvement to my boosts over the Windows High Performance powerplan.
i have a question... My 3800X is getting straight to 95c and drops it clock speed to 3,7ghz allcores when testing with prime... THE FUNNY THING IS: it is stock, non undervolted overclocked or anything, and iam using a alpha cool custom loop (CPU only) with a 360x45mm on the backside of the case (lian li o11 dynamic), pulling fresh air with good fans, had the Noiseblocker NB12 at first and now im on arctic p12 pst... I think that its the fault of my waterpump, it seems to not havve enough flow... if its not the fault of the pump, what could be wrong? the loop is fine, the airflow is good...
I've noticed that the voltage for these cpus is high. If you set a negative voltage offset it can help for try setting the voltage to 1.25. I went crazy with different water coolers, custom loops, and air coolers. The only thing that worked for me was lowing the voltage or turning off performance boost
@@TokenTech i got the temps down a lot by setting the TDP down to 65 Watts, set a override by 200mhz and scalar to lvl 6, no performanceloss in game, actually a little boost because the temps got down by 10C and it boosts much higher now. I ordered a new pump and i will install a second radiator (240x45mm) to my existing 360x45mm, and i will see wich temps i will be getting :D actually im doing the second rad because my future gpu will be water cooled, 360 plus 240 might be a bit overkill for cpu only :D
@@TokenTech try it out, set the tdp down, it actually does not effect the performance that much, multicore is a bit less, but in games its boosting higher... :)
That's a cool idea, I have a 3950x now so I wonder how that would work with a 16 core chip. Also water cooling can be so much fun. I plan to do a real custom loop again once new GPUs aren't so crazy expensive
@@TokenTech yeah, hopefully they will be cheaper soon, these prices are crazy... Games getting so hungry, wich does not make the situation better. I atleast upgraded to a rx 6600xt. Had a GTX 970 before :D
I'm working with a 3900x at stock, Prism cooler, great air flow NZXT H400 case, not interested in ~10% extra performance but actually in lowering temperatures to bellow 70C by maybe imposing a limit to the max power of the cpu or imposing a max cpu temperature of 70C. Is that possible through the bios ? My system works under load for long periods of time, didn't have the money to build a server with Epic cpu 😉
My 3600 with stock cooler runs on average at around 45 to 48 degrees, but I only use it for Photoshop. Highest I have seen is about 70 degrees when running a benchmark test (which I rarely do). No gaming at all. This is a work PC. The Ryzen Master program shows my peak voltage at around 0.925. Would this be considered low and/or dangerous? (newbie question). I have no fan noise issues. I use a Corsair "Quiet" case.
have arctic freezer 33 plus.(by the way i don't like it, that zero rpm mode is useless, and its almost impossible to correct the fan curve, since fans ignore pwm settings, had to go with DC mode) In stock settings: aida 64 86-89deg. Metro exodus - 78-82deg Undervolt to 1.225V(bios boosts voltage to 1.232V) offset mode 4.2ghz: in aida and 72 in metro. Got better multicore performance and same single core as stock. And less temp spikes, that makes fans to ramp up less.
g613 keyboard detected, leaving a like. Just for the record, yes, the cooling solution helps a lot also depending on the motherboard, getting all 4 ram modules populated will use the RAM as dual bank dual channel. A little offset 0.0375v made the multicore score to go up and temps on spikes went down. About noise just slam a noctua NH-D12 or D15 with dual chromax or dual stock fans in there an you won't even hear it.
How do you OC at 1.25v - 1.30v? I got to 4.3ghz 3700x (AIO) at 1.350v but got the best performance at 1.3526v. Top temp on C20 was 80c. AMD says under 85c is ok.
For a static Voltage under heavy load anything above 1.3 volts will cause damage to the chip. Even if temps are in check the chip is killing itself. Some chips are of slightly better quality and can overclock better at lower voltage some are not and you need to lower your clock speed for the safe voltage
I'm running my 3700x at 1.25 volts, all core at4.3ghz with the stock cooler, never goes over 60C. I scraped off the thermal paste, lapped the cooler, put some arctic silver on it. Your mileage may vary.
I don't know if that is possible. However if you set a static clock speed the cpu will not boost. You can also change the power plan in windows which will change the boost behavior.
Just installed my cooler master hyper 212 yesterday and am getting a constant 75C max while playing cod warzone are temps in the 70’s okay while gaming ?
How were your temps prior to the upgrade on warzone? Warzone is the only game where I get high 70's occasional low 80s. Was debating upgrading the wraith prism.
For Zen 2 CPUs setting a static voltage over 1.3 can cause damage to the chip leading to instability. AMD has not given any voltage numbers for zen2 and with in the community many people have conducted their own tests and found above 1.3v will cause damage. When stock/auto the voltage fluctuates depending on many variables giving you the most performance without causing damage. The channel actually hard core overclocking recently posted a great detailed and long video on all of this
Hey, nice video but you said that if i let my Ryzen 3700X run on stock with a good cooler (i got a H100i Platinum) you get the most performance out of it but unfortunately my cpu ist running at 3.8GHz with max. 67°C in CB20 in STOCK (I dont know why its not boosting becuase i didnt change anything in the bios. Its only boosting in idle xD). In my case it spikes to 65°C in idle in stock. So i saw a video where someone said to undervolt it to get better temperatures. So i undervoltet my CPU to 1.1750V @4.00GHz and now i have idle temperature about 40°C. So i did a test with Cinebench R20 and i get like 100 - 150 points more with 1.1750V @4.00GHz than stock. So am I lucky to get better performance @4.00GHz than stock? But how the hell did you get a score of 5000 points on stock because i have a H100i Platinum AIO? I tested it again with Cinebench R20: @4.00GHz with 1.1750V: 4705 points (max. 69°C) @Stock @3.8GHz : 4564 points (max. 67°C) That means by undervolting it i get 141 points more than on Stock. Edit: Got my CPU running @4.10GHz at 1.25V and got a score of 4865 points with a maximum of 73°C. So thats even 301 points more than Stock. Am i just lucky with these results? Because you said it would be the fastest on stock witch a good cooler. I hope that i will get a answer from you.
Thanks for commenting, this sure is interesting. I'm sure silicon quality can make a difference here but there are also other variables such as the motherboard and bios that could also make a difference. That is strange though, mine will boost to 4.3 all core by itself in cinebench r20
@@TokenTech Okay, i have a MSI X570 Gaming Edge WIFI. Which mainboard do you have? Or should i mabye try to overclock to 4.2GHz and ~1,3Volt to get the most out of it?
I'm using the Asus crosshair vi hero x370 with WiFi. Could be that Asus just blasts the cpu with power lol in my testing their LLC is always maxed out no matter what level it is set too so could be that or maybe they have different values set for precision boost
Alright so I just got my 3800x today and it's not achieving the performance I thought it would So let's get started Here's my run [R20 Run](ua-cam.com/video/dTPPxO4TlPM/v-deo.html) I idle at 40c and my cooler is running at 30 to 40% Why are my voltages so high? Is that normal? PBO is enabled. Is my current run damaging to the cpu? How can I squeeze the most performance while keeping it safe. How can I optimize my 3800X? #Edit : Alright so I've found a video on UA-cam [Nexus video ](ua-cam.com/video/JscRwIH3OAY/v-deo.html) [video i followed](ua-cam.com/video/5JTuxMnrqds/v-deo.html) So basically what happened is that I killed my 3600 and now replaced it with the 3800x and I'm paranoid of it reaching over 1.3v So I limit the cpu to run at 1.3v and a max clock speed of 4300mhz and achieve 70c in R20 with a nice 3rd party cooler I have also OCed my memory to 3400mhz @cl14 Problem is that in games I would like it to achieve 4.5 or higher boosts on a couple of cores and it won't now as I've limited it to 4.3 using ryzen master, will using the game mode option in Ryzen Master allow it to reach higher clock ? Anyways thanks everyone
Static voltage + overclock was the best thing I ever did for my 3600. I managed to achieve stable 4.4ghz @ 1.275v. I could've gone higher, but the performance boost wasn't worth the crazy high voltage increases. Plus my temperatures are better than ever. 70C max running Cinebench R20, 50-55C in games, and 35C idle. My fan curves are set so low, the only way I can tell my PC is even running is thanks to the lights inside in the case. And those temps are on a Hyper 212 BE. It's not even that good of an aftermarket cooler
Leaving things at stock settings with the stock cooler my temps were: idle: 40-50C with random spikes just from using the mouse or browser. Gaming: 70-75C. Stress test: 85C+ probably throttling. Stock settings + Hyper 212 BE: idle: stable 40C, Gaming: 55-60C, Stress Test: 75C. 4.4ghz OC @ 1.275v static + Hyper 212 BE + CPU fan curve set to 35% static, case fans set to 40%: Idle 35C, Gaming 50-55C, Cinebench R20: 70C max, Aida64: 81C, Prime 95: scary high. Don't do Prime95.
Make sure that you set the limits for PPT(88W), TDC(95A) and EDC(90A) manually in your BIOS. I have 4,4ghz all core @ 1,24v stable but I had to manually limit PPT and EDC in my bios. It would fire up to 140A into the CPU and close to 100W without limiting and that will degrade the cpu rather quickly over time
Never got it out of the box, the stock cooler used to work great with the 2000 series (Ryzen 2600 with the factory wraith stealth) I never tried the spire on the 3700x, I slammed a noctua right away
No. I'm at 4ghz 1.2v right now. I've gone as far as 3.9ghz at 1.15v but won't go lower. Need to make sure your temps are good really. You don't want to have low voltage and still have real high heat.
Throwing my 3600's stock cooler as hard as I could out my back door was the most cathartic thing I've done in years. The CPU went straight to 95c under load with the stock cooler. I reseated it three times and was prepared to RMA. I installed an Arctic Freezer 34 Duo and now the CPU tops out around 73c.
Yup! Idk why all the big reviewers stand by it, it really isn't enough
Same here. Switched to the Arctic Freezer II 240 mm and she's nice and chilly. I know it's Overkill don't come for me.
I was going to upgrade my stock cooler with the Arctic Freezer 34 Duo but found the Scythe Mugen Rev. B. Both are incredible performers for the price point!!! I ended up going with Scythe. My CPU under stress/extreme load tests hasn’t crossed 70c. I’ve been SOO happy.
I cleaned off the thermal pad, lapped the cooler and used artic silver on my 3700x, running 60C tops at full bore 4.3ghz all cores at 1.25 volts.
Yeah man I get it. My 3800x was as hot as 43° at idle out of the box. Totally forced me to get an aio liquid cooling system. Even still it’s at 34° idle.
Another thing that people don't pay attention to is PPT, TDC and EDC limits. Sometimes the motherboards will start waaaaay overshooting those limits, which at safe voltages will still lead to heavy degredation. For example if I don't limit EDC in my bios, then it will shoot 150% of EDC limit into the CPU, even at something like 1,2v
Hello, thanks for the videos, i have a question and i would be very glad if you could answer. I did not want to set the voltage by using the manual mode as it makes the CPU run at certain mhz and certain voltage. I wanted to let it go up and down as the chip is built to work in auto mode (i have read a comment on your channel in another video saying it is not recommended to set the voltage in override mode, and you pinned that comment on top). So i decided to try offset mode.
I have selected - 0.075 offset. And i got the same results in Cinebench (both single core and multi core benchmark results) when compared to full auto setting, it helped me lower the temp (i needed it as i was getting very very high temps in full auto mode). I have also run Aida stability test and it did not fail.
So my question is it fully safe to use - offset voltage? I do not want degradation over time :)
(Yes, i will try to get a better cooler asap as well)
Thanks for the common sense advice - saved me going down a pretty pointless OC rabbit hole! Cheers
Yesterday I discovered that, with my Ryzen 3600 plus its stock cooler, I could achieve the following all-core manual overclocks at the following voltages:
4100 MHz at 1.23125 volts ---> Cinebench R20 score of 3722 with peak temperature of 69.4 C
4150 MHz at 1.26875 volts ---> Cinebench R20 score of 3769 with peak temperature of 74.3 C
4200 MHz at 1.34375 volts ---> Cinebench R20 score of 3806 with peak temperature of 84.9 C
Today after watching this video, I removed my all-core overclock and returned to stock. At stock, I get Cinebench scores around 3450 with peak temperature around 80 C. Although I get better perfomance with all-core OC, I am concerned about the long-term effects of constant voltage, even though my temperature looks cooler.
I agree that the way to manage the annoying change in fan RPM is to set my CPU fan to a 75% from 0-70 degrees C, then set it at 100% at 75 degrees C.
4300MHz at 1.3125 volts on my 3600. Temps are: Idle 32c, gaming load 50c and cinebench load 62c. Cooler is a Dark Rock Pro 4.
Cinebench score is 3972.
What motherboard do you uave
I’m by no means a professional, but I’ve been researching the crap out of how to push the Ryzen 3600 to its “safe” limits. I heard on reddit that as long as your temps are below 80c most any voltages under 1.5 are safe, so I wouldn’t be concerned running 4.2ghz at 1.34v
Set an offset and leave the multis and vcore alone, I got better performance with an offset of - 0.375v got better performance in R20 with lower temps. I think it also depends heavily on the motherboard as well, a few manufacturers are too aggressive with the default settings. Aorus Master seems to behave pretty well at stock, but I was curious and undervolted a little, I got some extra performance out of it.
Stick with the 4150mhz at 1.268 volts.
Got ur point, but starting from an under construction 3700x with Noctua NH U14S & 1070TI GPU EVGA SC (ventilated) model, I understand all the heat will be spread into the CASE. I'm afraid not an ideal starting point. The case is a big one, like Bquiet 900 rev 2, but I already guess this thing will need to be open... I though : low TDP for both CPU & GPU, no need for watercooling, well not so sure now.
Water cooling is definitely not needed, noctua makes my favorite coolers and an open gpu should be fine as well. You just need to make sure you have too case airflow to get rid of all that heat
@@TokenTechHope u're right, Cinebench r. 20 will tell. Thx for ur approach.
I undervolted to 1.1 volt at 4.2 ghz 😦👌
Is it good, how the temp in max and idle?
@@putraadji9885 max i saw is 64° c back in August , but now temps r really low , 25°c idle ,max 45°c bcz oc winter
@@shamaafrin4031 that is a great number, good for you
My 3400G stock cooler used to be very noisy at stock until i manually overclock to 4Ghz all core at 1.35v, and 1650Mhz igpu auto voltage.. I'm still new to pc building but that seems to work for now. No more noises.
Okay, so I've just tested my 3700x @1.25v and got an R20 score of 5000. PBO is enabled.
I'm using an NZXT x53 240 AIO set up as exhaust with two 140mm intakes in my case; max CPU temp was 54c.
My bios settings look like this (using a Crosshair Hero VIII X570):
RAM 3600mhz cl16 (DOCP profile), FCLK 1800.
Perfomance enhancer @ Level 3 (OC)
Force OC mode: Disabled
Sense MI Skew: Enabled
CPU load line calibration: Level 4
CPU Power phase control: Extreme
CPU current capability: 130%
VRM spread spectrum: disabled
Active frequency mode: Disabled
CPU power thermal control: 120
VDDSOC load-line calibration: Level 4
VDDSOC current capability: 130%
My PBO settings are:
PPT limit: 300
TDC limit: 230
EDC limit: 230
PBO scalar: 2X
Max CPU boost clock override: 200mhz
Everything else is Auto,
Most of the guides I've seen into and this is by far the best settings I tried on my System. I got an R20 score of 4655.
Using Vcore negative offset - 0.1000, My current cooling setup is a Corsair Hydro Series H60 (2018).
Going to upgrade later for 240mm to achieve the same score as yours.
@@strife_97 www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/e8nne7/play_with_pbo_settings_dont_just_set_them_all_to/ read though this reddit post dude, most of those settings are actually irrelevant now from what I've learned
Don't even use CB20 as a way of measuring your performance just open Ryzen Master and use Prime95 to stress test your CPU for a few seconds and see what your boosts are in Ryzen master.
My PBO settings have changed now to
PPT limit: 110
TDC limit: 55
EDC limit: 0
PBO scalar: 5X
With a boost override of only 100mhz, not 200mhz (don't bother setting anything above 100mhz, it doesn't work and can actually lower your boosts)
I found these settings by monitoring my PPT and TDC on Ryzen Master, stress testing with Prime95 and going into my BIOS to adjust my PPT and TDC. Just repeat until you find a limit that only reaches between 70-80% in Ryzen Master.
EDC:0 sets your EDC to the 3700x's default EDC:90a, EDC is bugged apparently so it's best left at default because it maxes out to 100% regardless of settinmgs.
These settings LOWER my CB20 score...but when I test with Prime95 my boost speeds are a MASSIVE improvement and my temps are lower, which is what counts.
*This was with my voltage set to AUTO, no offsets. I also used the Ryzen High Performance power plan and found a 0.030mhz improvement to my boosts over the Windows High Performance powerplan.
I got 7418 in r20 ryzen 9 3900x, with stock cooler. Temp 73C
Great video! gave me a lot of reassurance
i have a question... My 3800X is getting straight to 95c and drops it clock speed to 3,7ghz allcores when testing with prime... THE FUNNY THING IS: it is stock, non undervolted overclocked or anything, and iam using a alpha cool custom loop (CPU only) with a 360x45mm on the backside of the case (lian li o11 dynamic), pulling fresh air with good fans, had the Noiseblocker NB12 at first and now im on arctic p12 pst... I think that its the fault of my waterpump, it seems to not havve enough flow... if its not the fault of the pump, what could be wrong? the loop is fine, the airflow is good...
I've noticed that the voltage for these cpus is high. If you set a negative voltage offset it can help for try setting the voltage to 1.25. I went crazy with different water coolers, custom loops, and air coolers. The only thing that worked for me was lowing the voltage or turning off performance boost
@@TokenTech i got the temps down a lot by setting the TDP down to 65 Watts, set a override by 200mhz and scalar to lvl 6, no performanceloss in game, actually a little boost because the temps got down by 10C and it boosts much higher now.
I ordered a new pump and i will install a second radiator (240x45mm) to my existing 360x45mm, and i will see wich temps i will be getting :D actually im doing the second rad because my future gpu will be water cooled, 360 plus 240 might be a bit overkill for cpu only :D
@@TokenTech try it out, set the tdp down, it actually does not effect the performance that much, multicore is a bit less, but in games its boosting higher... :)
That's a cool idea, I have a 3950x now so I wonder how that would work with a 16 core chip. Also water cooling can be so much fun. I plan to do a real custom loop again once new GPUs aren't so crazy expensive
@@TokenTech yeah, hopefully they will be cheaper soon, these prices are crazy... Games getting so hungry, wich does not make the situation better. I atleast upgraded to a rx 6600xt. Had a GTX 970 before :D
The 3900x with stock cooler.. what's the best clock and volts have ppl found to lower the temp? This thing runs hot!
I have a r9 3900x with stock cooler 💪💪💪.
Max temps 77C
Normal 50-65C
4.200Ghz all cores.
I'm working with a 3900x at stock, Prism cooler, great air flow NZXT H400 case, not interested in ~10% extra performance but actually in lowering temperatures to bellow 70C by maybe imposing a limit to the max power of the cpu or imposing a max cpu temperature of 70C. Is that possible through the bios ? My system works under load for long periods of time, didn't have the money to build a server with Epic cpu 😉
You could try setting a negative volatage offset in the bios. Try -0.1 or -0.05
Thanks, gonna try that !
My 3600 with stock cooler runs on average at around 45 to 48 degrees, but I only use it for Photoshop. Highest I have seen is about 70 degrees when running a benchmark test (which I rarely do). No gaming at all. This is a work PC. The Ryzen Master program shows my peak voltage at around 0.925. Would this be considered low and/or dangerous? (newbie question). I have no fan noise issues. I use a Corsair "Quiet" case.
That all sounds fine to me
have arctic freezer 33 plus.(by the way i don't like it, that zero rpm mode is useless, and its almost impossible to correct the fan curve, since fans ignore pwm settings, had to go with DC mode)
In stock settings: aida 64 86-89deg. Metro exodus - 78-82deg
Undervolt to 1.225V(bios boosts voltage to 1.232V) offset mode 4.2ghz: in aida and 72 in metro.
Got better multicore performance and same single core as stock.
And less temp spikes, that makes fans to ramp up less.
g613 keyboard detected, leaving a like.
Just for the record, yes, the cooling solution helps a lot also depending on the motherboard, getting all 4 ram modules populated will use the RAM as dual bank dual channel.
A little offset 0.0375v made the multicore score to go up and temps on spikes went down.
About noise just slam a noctua NH-D12 or D15 with dual chromax or dual stock fans in there an you won't even hear it.
How do you OC at 1.25v - 1.30v? I got to 4.3ghz 3700x (AIO) at 1.350v but got the best performance at 1.3526v. Top temp on C20 was 80c. AMD says under 85c is ok.
For a static Voltage under heavy load anything above 1.3 volts will cause damage to the chip. Even if temps are in check the chip is killing itself. Some chips are of slightly better quality and can overclock better at lower voltage some are not and you need to lower your clock speed for the safe voltage
Ive got my 3700x Running stable at 1.1v its boosting itself to Max 4.25
@@TokenTech It`s 1.35 not 1.30.
Max temp is 95c AMD says...
Max Temps 95°C www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/amd-ryzen-7-3700x
I'm running my 3700x at 1.25 volts, all core at4.3ghz with the stock cooler, never goes over 60C. I scraped off the thermal paste, lapped the cooler, put some arctic silver on it. Your mileage may vary.
so is it possible to completely turn off turbo boost?
I don't know if that is possible. However if you set a static clock speed the cpu will not boost. You can also change the power plan in windows which will change the boost behavior.
Yes turn it off in bios. Mine mobo is labeled Performance boost. i turned it to none.
Just installed my cooler master hyper 212 yesterday and am getting a constant 75C max while playing cod warzone are temps in the 70’s okay while gaming ?
Perfectly okay
How were your temps prior to the upgrade on warzone? Warzone is the only game where I get high 70's occasional low 80s. Was debating upgrading the wraith prism.
What's AMD's answer to why the temps are high
Temps are not high, some ppl just don`t know how to build a PC. My stock 3600 is 32c idle and 50 under full load with a air cooler.
Enchantress bullshit
@@ssjdavid I'm running my 3700x at 4.3ghz all core at 1.25 volts with the stock cooler, never went above 60C.
@@michaelkeudel8770 how? I'm crashing a 1.29 v
Could you help me out
AMD suggests voltages 1.35 to 1.37 for ryzen master, and my Mobo puts it's at 1.4. so what do you mean don't go over 1.3?
For Zen 2 CPUs setting a static voltage over 1.3 can cause damage to the chip leading to instability. AMD has not given any voltage numbers for zen2 and with in the community many people have conducted their own tests and found above 1.3v will cause damage. When stock/auto the voltage fluctuates depending on many variables giving you the most performance without causing damage. The channel actually hard core overclocking recently posted a great detailed and long video on all of this
Thats your mobo setting from its manufacturer. You can set the temp in the bios. I run 3700x AIO at 4.3ghz at 1.3526v
@@TokenTech Nah, even 1.4v is safe according to AMD and the motherboard partners.
Hey! I have a 3700x so Zen 3, should have specified that
Zen 3 isn't out yet, I do that all the time too though, I'll say Zen 3 when I mean Zen 2
Hey, nice video but you said that if i let my Ryzen 3700X run on stock with a good cooler (i got a H100i Platinum) you get the most performance out of it but unfortunately my cpu ist running at 3.8GHz with max. 67°C in CB20 in STOCK (I dont know why its not boosting becuase i didnt change anything in the bios. Its only boosting in idle xD). In my case it spikes to 65°C in idle in stock. So i saw a video where someone said to undervolt it to get better temperatures. So i undervoltet my CPU to 1.1750V @4.00GHz and now i have idle temperature about 40°C. So i did a test with Cinebench R20 and i get like 100 - 150 points more with 1.1750V @4.00GHz than stock. So am I lucky to get better performance @4.00GHz than stock?
But how the hell did you get a score of 5000 points on stock because i have a H100i Platinum AIO?
I tested it again with Cinebench R20:
@4.00GHz with 1.1750V: 4705 points (max. 69°C)
@Stock @3.8GHz : 4564 points (max. 67°C)
That means by undervolting it i get 141 points more than on Stock.
Edit:
Got my CPU running @4.10GHz at 1.25V and got a score of 4865 points with a maximum of 73°C.
So thats even 301 points more than Stock.
Am i just lucky with these results? Because you said it would be the fastest on stock witch a good cooler.
I hope that i will get a answer from you.
Thanks for commenting, this sure is interesting. I'm sure silicon quality can make a difference here but there are also other variables such as the motherboard and bios that could also make a difference. That is strange though, mine will boost to 4.3 all core by itself in cinebench r20
@@TokenTech Okay, i have a MSI X570 Gaming Edge WIFI. Which mainboard do you have? Or should i mabye try to overclock to 4.2GHz and ~1,3Volt to get the most out of it?
I'm using the Asus crosshair vi hero x370 with WiFi. Could be that Asus just blasts the cpu with power lol in my testing their LLC is always maxed out no matter what level it is set too so could be that or maybe they have different values set for precision boost
Maybe if you try messing with PBO you'll get similar multicore performance with better single core boost
@@TokenTech do you mean the PBO in Ryzen Master right? but what is the difference beetwen manual and PBO?
Alright so I just got my 3800x today and it's not achieving the performance I thought it would
So let's get started
Here's my run [R20 Run](ua-cam.com/video/dTPPxO4TlPM/v-deo.html)
I idle at 40c and my cooler is running at 30 to 40%
Why are my voltages so high? Is that normal?
PBO is enabled.
Is my current run damaging to the cpu?
How can I squeeze the most performance while keeping it safe. How can I optimize my 3800X?
#Edit :
Alright so I've found a video on UA-cam
[Nexus video ](ua-cam.com/video/JscRwIH3OAY/v-deo.html)
[video i followed](ua-cam.com/video/5JTuxMnrqds/v-deo.html)
So basically what happened is that I killed my 3600 and now replaced it with the 3800x and I'm paranoid of it reaching over 1.3v
So I limit the cpu to run at 1.3v and a max clock speed of 4300mhz and achieve 70c in R20 with a nice 3rd party cooler
I have also OCed my memory to 3400mhz @cl14
Problem is that in games I would like it to achieve 4.5 or higher boosts on a couple of cores and it won't now as I've limited it to 4.3 using ryzen master, will using the game mode option in Ryzen Master allow it to reach higher clock ?
Anyways thanks everyone
Cool it with an AIO then OC it.
40c idle with a 3800x.... Do you know how to build a PC? My 3600 and 3900x (both stock) are 32c and 31c idle with just a air cooler.
@@enchantress7928 tf. 40c is fine for idle.
Static voltage + overclock was the best thing I ever did for my 3600. I managed to achieve stable 4.4ghz @ 1.275v. I could've gone higher, but the performance boost wasn't worth the crazy high voltage increases. Plus my temperatures are better than ever. 70C max running Cinebench R20, 50-55C in games, and 35C idle. My fan curves are set so low, the only way I can tell my PC is even running is thanks to the lights inside in the case. And those temps are on a Hyper 212 BE. It's not even that good of an aftermarket cooler
Leaving things at stock settings with the stock cooler my temps were: idle: 40-50C with random spikes just from using the mouse or browser. Gaming: 70-75C. Stress test: 85C+ probably throttling.
Stock settings + Hyper 212 BE: idle: stable 40C, Gaming: 55-60C, Stress Test: 75C.
4.4ghz OC @ 1.275v static + Hyper 212 BE + CPU fan curve set to 35% static, case fans set to 40%: Idle 35C, Gaming 50-55C, Cinebench R20: 70C max, Aida64: 81C, Prime 95: scary high. Don't do Prime95.
You have a lot of BSOD`s and crashes.
Make sure that you set the limits for PPT(88W), TDC(95A) and EDC(90A) manually in your BIOS. I have 4,4ghz all core @ 1,24v stable but I had to manually limit PPT and EDC in my bios. It would fire up to 140A into the CPU and close to 100W without limiting and that will degrade the cpu rather quickly over time
they have lower performance than u cause ram not flow
I'm sure you can shave 1C to 2C off just by changing your LED from Red to Blue. My eyes burn just by staring at those lights.
My stock cooler reached over 90c its a terrible cooler
agreed
Never got it out of the box, the stock cooler used to work great with the 2000 series (Ryzen 2600 with the factory wraith stealth) I never tried the spire on the 3700x, I slammed a noctua right away
is 1.20v a bit too low for 3600? I also set the max boost to just 4ghz
No. I'm at 4ghz 1.2v right now. I've gone as far as 3.9ghz at 1.15v but won't go lower. Need to make sure your temps are good really. You don't want to have low voltage and still have real high heat.
I have clocked my r5 3600 to 4.2ghz at 1.0625 volts. Till now haven't faces any instability issues, also the max temp won't exceed 80.
What are your idle temps for 4ghz at 1.2v?
I have same settings using wraith prism running 46-53c idle and under load at 70c
@@albingerona7787 I'm about the same with stock cooler, not a prism though.
@@lespretend thanks! So we're on the same page