From Teen Victim to Murdering her Manipulator | The Case of Killer Sarah
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- Опубліковано 5 тра 2024
- Harold Sasko had manipulated vulnerable eighteen-year-old Sarah McLinn who, unbeknownst to him at the time, would eventually snap back in the most violent of ways… and all of a sudden, the predator had become the prey.
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00:00 Intro
01:25 Harold Sasko's disappearance
04:35 Dark Discovery
06:10 Sarah Gonzales Mclinn
12:12 Hal's and Sarah's Relationship...
17:47 Spiralling signs
18:49 On the run
20:25 Recalling Hal's fate
22:47 Psychology / Legal
27:52 Outro
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Telling wouldn't save her. Idiots would just say he's such a great person because he sat in church sometimes. The cops wouldn't help her because she was over 18. She couldn't leave or she would be hunted down and killed.
No one was going to help her. She had no choice but to save herself.
Would be interested to see the potential difference in results if Sarah was a male. Also if Harold was female. My inclination is that is wouldn't be as high as 71%.
@@NoEvidenceForGod Whether we like to admit or not, pretty privillige exists.
Sarah should 100% be in prison for life. She could have just left him but decided to kill him instead. Murdering animals too? She's too messed up in the head and we don't need her perverting society.
I think that this analogy sums it up: Hal essentially kicked a dog until the dog had enough and finally bit him.
yes,yes,yes
That’s the claim of a murderer. Of course you and the guy running this channel bought her story hook line and sinker. You don’t know how much of this story is accurate. Plus she was 18 and could’ve left anytime she wanted without murdering someone.
Edit: to all the idiots replying to my comment, as a child I went through physical and psychological abuse you can’t imagine. And the day I graduated high school (at age 17) I left home forever, and I didn’t murder my parents on the way out. See how easy that was? I used my working legs to walk away from my abusers. Stop making excuses for a murderer just because it’s a woman.
@@JakeKoenig "could’ve left anytime she wanted without murdering someone" did you even watch the video??
@@JakeKoenigIt’s not always that black and white for the victims
@JakeKoenig "could've left at any time" You definitely haven't been in an abusive relationship.
No he didn't have "good traits". This family is ignorant. The good deeds were to build trust. Trust he can later exploit. He was just a sociopath.
Right, and the fact that he was church-going doesn't make him a good man. Too much hypocrisy in this world.
Agree completely with both of you!!!!
Dude seriously, he was just masking his intentions, he was a monster parading as a saint... It's disgusting that the family thinks she still needs to be punished... Shes the victim, not him!
Manipulative sociopaths can appear to be the nicest people when they want to be. They are also very good at making you feel like you are making your own decisions when they are feeding them to you. And like other abusive assholes, they can make the victim feel like they deserved the abuse or have pushed the limits so much that victims don't even realize they are being abused 😢
They definitely made sure she wouldn't get a fair trial
This poor girl didn't stand a chance from day one. That brief moment of hope after her release from the hospital was life's cruelest joke.
Right? And even now, I don’t understand how she wasn’t *at least* locked up in a psychiatric facility! She doesn’t deserve prison, she needs genuine mental help!
@@Obsessed_With_Corgisbc the American judicial system isn’t designed to rehabilitate, unfortunately. That being said, the mental health units/long term psych hospitals are said to be even worse than jail or prison. I didn’t graduate but did more than 3/4 of my coursework to be a forensic psychiatrist, those credits are still valid and I’ll never use them, bc I cannot stomach the reality of the career path I worked so hard toward. It’s not a pretty picture from any angle 😢
@@JennieHD999that’s too bad. There needs to be less jaded people to help others.
That is a sad truth, the person she ended up turning to was not there to help her. Sounds like her mother tried, but by that point she seems like she was done listening to her parents.
@hollienelson6738, so are you saying you would have been fine if she was found "not guilty?" Cry me a river, I hear the violin playing.
I am absolutely horrified that anyone could be on the fence about this. She was abused and molested when she was a young teen, suffered so much trauma that she developed DID, and was surgically modified to fit this sick man's preferences. He didn't lock her up in his home, but he sure as hell made threats about what he would do if she left, and she was absolutely financially shackled to him. So she finally freed herself, saved her life, and what did the legal system do? They caged her again. She deserves mental health treatment, not to be locked away.
She does not deserve this punishment. Or any. That is insane. She was literally surgically modified and drugged to fit this old man's fantasy. She did the world a favor by finishing him off. How sad, she deserves rehab and freedom. The only reason she became dissociative and violent is because of the horror she suffered. Insane.
true
Nah she killed the rabbit
Bollocks 2 wrongs don't make a right
@@daniels2852 ....as a symptom of her abuse.
Just because someone suffered doesn’t mean that if they commit a vile act they shouldn’t be punished. I feel bad for her but let keep it real do you care about the circumstances of robber when you are robbed or just the fact that you were robbed. We can use their trauma as mitigating factors but not out right release. As the previous gentleman said two wrongs don’t make a right. If you sold someone a bad car does that give them the right to beat you within an inch of you life. If you think so then to what degree should that individual be punished ?? See how this turned into a slippery sloped argument because that is exactly how the prosecutor will frame it at the end of the day
He was nice because it helped him get in touch with vulnerable people he could use.
👍🏻 yup
💯💯💯
He made those people indebted too; their job was to make him look better and possibly defend him if anyone says he's a creep.
It's called grooming
That's what I was thinking too.
Nice? No, he was trading acts for access to the vulnerable and character defenders! Manipulative scumbag.
It scares me to think of how many 'nice guys' we come across or meet but in their homes they're the worst evil humans
I've at this day and age decided ALL are monsters until proven otherwise.
It keeps me and mine safe.
There is no such thing as a harmless person. I’ve met waaaaay to man men of God who were pure evil.
Same can be Said about women....just doesn't go one way🚬..but this guy was evil. That's a fact
Every single one of us is capable of unimaginable evil given the right circumstances.
Many. Too many. I've met too many already, don't even want to think about how many might still be in my life. Only person you can truly trust, is you. Everyone else might have dark secrets behind their "nice masks"..
This is so painfully sad. I have a daughter and I shudder to think about all the pain, confusion & fear these teens go through. More & more I see that all these teens need is love. Real unconditional secure love. And the awareness of wolves in sheep’s clothing. Hal took advantage of Sara’s pain and confusion. Groomed her by his lies to love & take care of her to satisfy his evil heart. This should’ve been taken into account for her sentencing. Her sentencing just validated the lies her abusers told her about herself. 😢😢😢
He actually turned her into his killer. I so agree with you, all she needed & wanted was true, unconditional, sincere & genuine love. All children do😢
This happened out where I live. You gave way more info than what the media and police gave when all of this happened. One headline was something about "older man takes in homeless girl, man found dead."
Tf? They're so wrong for that it makes me mad
wow
Typical media🙄
I remember this. I live in Topeka
J. C.... That's an awful headline.
I'm honestly disgusted with this entire case. What Hal did to an already traumatized woman is unconscionable, and in any other circumstances he'd be the one locked away. The fact that Sarah is the one serving Hal's sentence is a farce. If there ever was a case to be made for pre-meditated self defense, this would be it. She's defending herself against years of abuse and torture, not a singular event, so of course there's going to be some sort of plan involved. I just hope she is getting the help she most definitely needs to cope with DID and the unfairness of the situation. The best analogy I can come up with right now is that it feels like someone is teasing a bear at a zoo, ends up falling into the enclosure, gets mauled, and now it's the bears' fault that the person is dead, when in reality it is the individual's own stupidity that got them killed.
What crime do you think he committed that would cause him to be locked up?
Love your last analogy. It's true in this case - and in the analogy. I despise when an animal is euthanized when it clearly is the idiots who are to blame.
@@beyondbackwater4933sex trafficking, rape, corruption of a minor, sexual assault
@@beyondbackwater4933 Sexual grooming of an adolescent. He spent two years doing it . Predator.
That man was a sexual predator @@beyondbackwater4933
This is one of the saddest stories I've seen in a long time. I feel so bad now. Thank you, as always, for being so respectful, with this horrific story
Life is so short we don’t have much time on this planet so you shouldn’t feel bad about this program because all you’re doing is giving away some of your time to negative feelings
@samdoors5132 what? It's a sad story. Empathy. It's a real thing. We've all lost loved ones. What a weird comment. Please don't bring your lack of feeling to my comments ever again. Thank you.
This pulls at my heart. Ive been in 3 relationships, all if which i have ended up being physically assaulted. I was in my 20s but it still wrecked me. This poor girl was in her teens. I hope she finds peace
❤🙏💪
There is always the DOOR and unless you couldn't open it and leave YOU allowed yourself to be abused.
I’m sorry to hear this Kate. I hope you found peace after that and that you have people around you that you can trust and rely on.
@@penny8579not to mention that accountability needs to be taken for repeatedly choosing the same person over and over and over again. Fool me once, fool me twice...😅😢
@@penny8579 Says someone who's never had to walk in those shoes.
For those outside of the US, Cici's is a chain of all you can eat buffet style pizza places. This man didn't name it that, he was a franchisee.
Hal was famous for helping his employees and strangers. Hal never hurt anyone.
@@ricktandron3669 Apparently, he did.
@ricktandron3669 Did you not just watch the same video as everyone else, or…?
@@michellegallia9361 I think that was sarcasm. 🤷♀️
Ahhh! Texan here, but admit I was curious about that. Thanks for the clarification. Our local shutdown like 2015 or so. Thought it was linked. Haha
This reminds me of a case in France, a few years ago. This old lady killed her husband, shot his back. However, all her life, she and her daughters were abused by him, and she was never able to get out. When she was arrested, a lot of people protested, demanding the president to give her a pardon.
Can you please tell what happened? Did they release her?
@@Ninja-ty4lw tbh, i'm not sure, I think they did release her! but idk if the president gave her a pardon.
Yes it was a big thing in France when it happened as the story was even more creepy that we though in the first place.
She was send to jail in 2014 for a 10 years sentence, but she obtained the presidential grace in 2016 due to the circumstance so she was free, still considered guilty but she was free so she went back ot her home and finish her life peacefully.
She passed away in 2020 due to health reason, she was something around 70 years old.
Could you share an article or the name of this woman?
@@duszekanyzratak Her name was Jacqueline Sauvage
In such a unique case like this, I find it shocking that the jury isn't full of mental health professionals: a person without medical expertise is out of their depth deciding her fate. Wow
Thank you for covering this case. You have released so much more information than what the media disclosed. 😊
Hal convinced her that if she tried to run without paying her back for his gifts that he had connections that would find and punish her. His deception led to his own death, a fitting end, Sarah was manipulated by Hal into killing him, my heart breaks for Sarah. I hope the justice system can see the error in their judgment here.
It only Sarah’s word we have for that ? If Sarah had wanted away it wouldn’t have been hard to embarrass him , actually ruin him by simply going to the Police?
@@firefly88887That's not how it works when someone mentally breaks you, and has you convinced that if you deviate from the rules in even the slightest way, you will suffer great harm. When someone has shown you what they're capable of when you follow the rules, the thought of what will happen if you don't follow them is terrifying.
If what you're suggesting was so simple, the amount of kidnap victims that have any sort of freedom would be zero.
Victim blaming out of sheer ignorance is gross. Do better.
@@Kisha_can agreed with you. there's alot of element to this case that are stacked against her. here in ireland. any woman who is charged with death of a man, it is deemed murder, on the understanding that when a woman kills. that due to her being the weaker party. it must be deliberate , planned and premeditate. if a many kills a woman, well its often manslaughter , he didn't mean it and that jardon.. she drove him to it. Sarah was a damaged young woman. Victim blaming in all abuse situation adds to justifying the abuse. wish he behave like a genuine good man, step father and none of this would have happened.
meant to say. when a man kills a woman it's usually deemed manslaughter. it "just happened " or "didn't mean it".
well said.
I’m a teacher at a workshop with a full hour for lunch. Sneaking away to my car to watch Coffeehouse Crime.
Ay yall she in the car!
Why do you have to sneak away if it's your break?
@@perhapsbutmaybeinstead of socializing during lunch maybe
@@perhapsbutmaybe because F people 😂 its me time for that hour!
That feeling though😊
He took advantage of a GIRL who was already traumatised and broken when she felt she had no one else. Its absolutely sickening. She needs mental health help and proper caring people around her to heal from all these manipulative and abusive jerks she's encountered , not a lifetime behind bars. Feel for her ❤
My ears perked up when I heard Cicis pizza and Oklahoma.
I was a volleyball player from 09-15 and every friday we’d travel to a city for the games and it was a tradition to go to Cicis afterwards. This case feels pretty personal. That poor girl doesn’t deserve that long of a sentence. Maybe continued mental health treatment. But not prison.
I feel worse for the rabbits than the “man.” 😓
Really? Because harming small animals is the sign of a sociopath, seems to me like she planned it from the start...
hypocrite
@@WhyAreWeHere2023 nah its just because when a woman is unalives a sugar daddy and then lies about a debt that trapped her even thoughshe could have drugged him and just left, everyone believes her. Basically its just easier to blame the straight white man no matter what
@@ThomasSawyerswho knows if that's true or not but what you're not going to do is justify a predator's predatory behavior
@@WhyAreWeHere2023 why ? Because she cares more about an animal's life than a man who PREYED ON children? Ok weirdo keep that same energy when somebody tries to be inappropriate with your children if you have any and I pray you don't
I remember this happening here in Lawrence! The restaurant was/is vacant still with the outline of the old signs on the facade. Everyone I spoke with at the time seemed angry that no one was helping her. I didn't know her sentence was reduced, I'm glad for that.
everyone was angry no one was helping her? Could someone from that anyone have helper her? I mean what are you angry about. The fact no one else did anything when you yourself did nothing?
@haji818721 with her case in the courts. I personally am not an attorney so...
The sexual abuse and the trauma that results from it becomes too overwhelming and heavy to bear that the mind creates alters to cope. I feel awful for Sarah. This one is so heartbreaking to hear about.
i think 25 years is still too harsh considering the DID diagnosis, the abuse from Hal, the previous abuse and the manipulation. yes it's still premeditated murder, but if i were the judge, i would've gone for 10 or 15 years and court mandated therapy
@spideyxmoriarty, glad YOU'RE NOT THE JUDGE.
He sounds sick in his head.
Did he really think this girl would be so moulded to his needs that she wouldn’t snap one day?.
An abused dog bites back eventually and there’s no difference here.
Just think about what type of mindset and person you have to be to think so twisted and inflict this type of emotional , monetary, S abuse on someone for your own sick pleasure and machinations.
The funny thing is he and the life he led were in many ways the pinnacle of the shared values system we have imposed on us in The West.
He worked hard and followed the letter of the law... save for the contents of his hard drives, that is.
We have developed a pretty disgusting values system as a whole, maybe it is best reflected by the system that thinks this girl, after all that abuse, deserves 50 years to life in prison, for depriving society of Hal... who truly is the exact type of person our society values above all others.
WELL SAID !
She spoke honestly in her confession thinking detectives would understand her.
Yes, it is so sad. I can feel what she was going through. There was no escape for her anywhere,
the fact that DID is formed from repeated childhood trauma up to the ages of 6-9 ,, that poor girl has been suffering since day one . she was a ticking time bomb that hal just kept playing tennis with . i’m glad the world was rid of such a disgusting “man” . i hope she can heal now and learn to cope with everything she’s went through
Let's go! My wife is home from the ICU, and we can enjoy watching today's video together. Unfortunately, though, we were told the other day that her cancer has spread to her heart and lungs. So she's now doing in home hospice care. We appreciate all the love you guys showed us last week, which shows how amazing this community is. ❤
Keep up the great work, Adrian, and God bless you for all you do to make these videos. We still can't wait to try classified coffee soon. ❤
May God be with you and your wife, you both will be in my prayers. God bless you both
@@CoExist64 thank you so much.
Sending prayers 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽and smudges 🪶🪶🪶and love❤❤❤, God Bless you both☮️🤗🕊🙏🏽🪶
I’m so sorry to hear your wife’s condition. Cancer is a horrible thing.
A virtual hug to both of you. You sound like a loving partner. Glad she has someone by her side and you guys are enjoying life and each other’s company at home.
Sending love and support to you and your wife. Take care x
This was featured on Deadly Women which skipped all of the details that you provided. The audacity and entitlement this man had is insane. He was a typical narcissist thought he could force her into a relationship with him. He was too old to be doing anything of the sort! He was a predator only hiring young teens and barely legal women for his sick fantasies. Those young women don’t want men that age! The fact that he knew of her previous abuse and became like the men that previously violated her is sad and upsetting! He weaponized her trauma against her to control her!
He was a predator period. These types of men aren’t nice for nothing. His sins found him out. The innocent project needs to look at this case! He contributed to his own demise.
"barely legal"? what???? lol.
She wasnt a woman she was an abused girl/child.
The Innocence Project doesn't take cases where the person is obviously the killer. What an odd thing to say. She certainly wasn't innocent.
@@cookie5535 do you know what barely means? She was 17 when he started grooming her and based on the video the age of consent in the state is 18. So yeah she was "barely" legal when he started his abuse.
@@bakedpotato6534 You're either legal or not. There's no middle ground when it comes to the law.
Hi, Adrian. I just discovered your channel and have been watching some of your old videos. What I love about you is the respective way in which you talk about the victims. Bless you!
This is crazy, she should not be getting any jail time at all but therapy and a safe environment. Harold his “positive nature” does not excuse what he has done. She didn’t need to kill him but considering the situation and her mental state she didn’t see any other way out.
Unfortunately, she could have just drugged him and zip tied him then called the cops and destroyed his world. But she committed premeditated murder, it’s unfortunate given her past trauma but she admitted that she had dark thoughts for years and killed multiple pets.. so I agree with the jury on this one.
@@80sBaybee , glad to find a sane person as yourself. Some people just don't get it, they see their traumas as same as this girl, but have they gone and committed the same acts? No.
Of course she should be getting jail time. She killed a man. That's the law. BUT, she should also be assigned a bi'weekly counselor, within a *much lighter* sentence. 25 years is still too long.
Poor Sarah, she has only known abuse from men all her young life, and felt trapped after being groomed and turned into basically a human trafficking victim by a vile and disgusting predator. The system failed her. And I find it disgusting that his family said, although what he did was wrong, he also did good things, as if that could ever make up for all the horrible things he did, not only to Sarah but other victims too. God only knows how many victims he abused. He only did those “kind” things as a cover up for what he was really like, and not out of the goodness of his heart like his family claim. He wanted to gain people’s trust and then make them indebted to him, so he could force them to be his sex slave. Sarah should receive professional help and not be locked up for the rest of her life, she’s suffered enough already. 💔
Exactly, they're trying to praise him for helping his young attractive female employees with their finances, after having literally done the same thing to her with the intention of indebting her to him and coercing her into being his sex slave. I have no doubt he was expecting some sort of quid pro quo from them as well.
Errr the rabbit being skinned is not something id do if id experienced what she had. Be careful. Their is something dark in her. He was a predator she was a predator too
@@lena-Ramone I know, that one gave me the chills too poor rabbit. 😢 But we have to remember that even though a lot of people who have been terribly abused like poor Sarah was will never do the horrible things she did, she was a very damaged and broken soul from years of sexual abuse in her young life. First when she was a child, which breaks my heart, and then as a teenager when she was raped at a party, and then to be groomed by the vile murder victim and sexually abused again by him over a period of 10 months. And she probably never received any professional help to help her “heal” from her past traumas. That will mess with your mental health and stability, plus she did suffer from mental illness as well most likely from never had gotten any help when she was a child. Which must’ve left Sarah with a lot of rage and anger inside of her, and that is sadly not uncommon with sexually abused victims.
Excellent analysis. I normally am skeptical of these mental illness claims, but in this case, this girl was clearly, clearly damaged from what she had been through. She definitely should have gotten some time, but she needs help more than she needs incarceration. The longer I live the more I realize how many times there are shades of gray in these crime issues.
I've always recognized the gray area, but as I've gotten older, it's gotten bigger.
They’re BOTH disgusting! Remember how she was killing innocent animals prior to the murder, and that she didn’t HAVE to murder him to get away, she could’ve just LEFT! Obv she was able to leave, cuz she did so right after the murder! I’m struggling to find sympathy for her, other than being treated poorly by the guy; which again, she could’ve easily ran away from.
@@kayleigh3648 She could leave, but he said he had people who could find her. She was indebted to him financially and he knew everything, possibly including blackmail, about her.
What she needed was help indeed. She needed a safe place to live in and a lot of therapy. She also needed a future to look forward to and work towards, such as college which she was planning already.
@kayleigh3648 the human psyche is a lot more complex than what you're making it out to be. With all the debt he put on her, and the physical changes he made her go through, she would've never been free from him. There's a high chance that even the legal system would've sided with him.
I love how your personality is shown more and more each time it's so refreshing
a good man ???? what ????? no one deserves to be murdered.. with that being said NO child deserves to be groomed / manipulated by an old man and then sent to prison because she escaped from him, unfortunate for him ,she killed him. and to say she consented.. is just sad...
He was a predator…preying on young impressionable girls, grooming them and abusing them. It’s very sad that she was found guilty and still had to serve 25 years. She probably saved a lot of other girls from becoming abused by this POS.
So you’re blaming the victim who was killed? And saying the ho who does drugs and let old men have sex with them was innocent ? Gotcha
so fucking sick... so if kidnapped victims have a plan to kill their captor and free themselves, they will also be charged with premeditated murder? and his family claiming that they still honor his good traits, what good traits!?!? a monster who can be giving is still a monster and will never not be a monster. i only wish he would've been awake to see who killed him, so he would know in his final moments that she was always stronger than him... (that miiiight be a little much but oh my GOD everything about this case pissed me off)
actually, yeah. There’s a girl serving a murder sentence right now for shooting her kidnapper who held her hostage.
It pissed me off too!
"A wolf in sheep's clothing." A wolf was all he was by our estimation. He was a pig through and through who cultivated a "good side" so no one would catch on to his true nature as a predator.
well she wasn't stronger, technically, she had to drug him. and she did commit pre meditated murder, even if its understandable why.. she also killed rabbits so seems psycho
This happens to sex trafficking survivors quite often, they get pinned with murder and prostitution charges after defending themselves against a pimp
When I was 14 and abused (essentially imprisoned in a house in a foreign country with no documents), I hurt the neighbour's cat (nothing too bad or painful). The incident still bothers me to this day ( I am 41). I tried to make up for it over the years, right down to not killing insects wherever I can avoid to, helping animals and so on. But I still feel disgusted with myself. I really hope that Sarah has the same change that I did.
His 'positive' nature 🙄🤮
I'm so tired of predators being congratualed on their sheep's clothing. Even if it 'helped' people, he only did it to get control over them and reputation points from the community.
I LOVE YOU FOR GETTING IT RIGHT 100% CORRE T ITS WHAT CHS DO
100% if she had asked for help she would have been turned away. My friend lived with an abuser and the cops never helped when she would call 911. This is within the last year, not decades ago like you’d assume. Called battered women’s shelter and they are full and they don’t have a wait list, you just have to call every day to see if there’s room.
My friend is still living with him but has been working on a covert plan to escape. She is young, orphaned and is a mother to a severely handicapped child. Baby daddy has her financially trapped. When he pushed her against a wall in anger and ripped her phone out of her hand causing her injury, the cops shrugged. When he he threw a chair at her and the baby and missed the cops said it didn’t count as abuse because she moved out of the way.
Anyway, this story doesn’t surprise me.
Agree m2
Why does she need the government for help?? She had a family she could have easily gone to. She CHOSE to live with him.
@@colbypatterson8273 How dare you mention personal accountability!
@@colbypatterson8273 You have no idea what they are like before, god live in the real world. People like you make it worse for vitiams to get out.
@colbypatterson8273 your that stupid huh dam
You have a great way of explaining things and telling a story. Netflix would have made 5 1-hour episodes out of this and still not covered it in as much detail as you did in 30 mins. A real talent.
😅😅😅, you are right. Adrian is both empathetic and thorough. I love the way he presents his well researched cases.
@@carolelangat-fortune4557 it’s such a talent. I know crime is his thing but I wouldn’t mind seeing him branch out across other subjects as he explains things so well and is so good at telling a story in a short amount of time
😂😂😂😂 so true!
I'm on her side here. I could go into the nuances and I can accept the part of it for which she's responsible, but he groomed and mentally manipulated her after discovering that she was already a victim. She likely truly felt trapped and without options, and felt the need to finally defend herself. Playing with fire will get you burned, playing with ppl by intentionally pushing them to their limits can result in far worse.
That is such absolutely b.s. so she was abused when she was a kid, held hostage in some azz clowns home, being extorted for her money, drugged raped, molested, being told she was this p.o.s property, decided to use self defense and gets life for it? It doesn't matter if she premeditated it, it was 100 percent self defense. She should of been sentenced to 10 years of some sort of conservatorship, a half way house, with daily therapy. I'm so sick of jury's and stupid judges who do nothing but let real criminals roam free and lock up victims like nicolea Miu and this woman on the video who clearly had their life endangered by sadistic sociopathic people, then when they defend themselves they end up being the bad person in the situation.
She gets life for essentially fighting back. Casey Anthony kills an innocent...Free as a bird. It's sickening!
@@jborden18the system protects predators. Theres cops who’ve SA’d and harassed and at worst get demoted/fired, at best they get an award like James combs. Theres a Kansas cop who r*** 14 yr old and was out the next day. Theres endless cases…they turned it on me when I went to them for a stalking predator at age 12. In Columbus, an 11 year old went to cops for help for same reason and they threatened her dad with charging his daughter for her own cp she was groomed and blackmailed into making. No blame on the full grown male predator. I can go on and on..I can count the times they’ve helped/saved, and I can’t count the times they’ve failed or made things worse. Fortunately with social media this is all coming to light. Defunding isn’t the answer as we’ve seen in NY they stop doing their job entirely so what’s the solution 🤷♀️ especially when they’re just a part of the real problem, which is the system itself.
Sociopaths are not human.
And people who murder for no reason get lighter sentences it's s joke
@@jborden18and OJ Simpson… that fucker got away
Adrian you are almost at 2 million. One of the best crime Channel! Thanks for thinking about the victims as well! I am not sure about the victim in this video.
Thank you! Almost there! ☕
@mt. I so agree. Adrian is our #1 channel ❤
Adrian of the low T, obvs never kissed a girl, oblivious to tge parasitic nature of the modern spoiled drugged up ovarian. Kang Kuck
EWU is professional? That's reaching a bit, imo. 😂
@@me0101001000 I cannot listen to Rotten Mango nor Grazy TV (although their content is different and interesting), which is funny as I am an Asian female myself lol.
This episode was terribly good. What a talent narrating it too!
Niccceee a new video 😭😭 I’ve been watching all his videos everyday haha I was running out of videos to watch 🤭
Whether its a grown man or a petitie 18 year old, NEVER underestimate crazy. Harold got what was coming to him, its a shame it cost Sarah life in prison.
In Dutch we have a version of “a drowning man grasps at straws that directly translates to “a cornered cat makes strange jumps”. It really felt like she was at the end of her rope. She probably saw no other way out.
But the fact that she skinned the bunny does show premeditation.
Another great content creator to tell us a great story. I think he groom her in every way she was obviously young vulnerable and took advantage of her. Hope she can get out of jail and have another chance to strat her Life..
She was let down/victimized in so many ways by so many people. Just having her dad in her life could have stopped all of this. People get divorced. It happens. But you divorce, your spouse, not your children. He abandoning his family was the first blow in this entire tragedy. I think she’s been punished enough.
I agree with your comments, but sadly, this happens to a lot more young girls and young women than anyone could fathom. there is a greater evil underbelly of society that most have no clue exists unless it raises it's ugly head in a case like this. Many more of these types of events never get reported or end up on the tail end of a murder.
@@semperfi6801 We live in a society that will always prioritize those who own property over workers. Sadly this kind of thing happens so often in workplaces, especially when women are undocumented. Justice for this woman was never a priority for the so-called "criminal justice" system.
I actually did Sarah's intake at TCF. I won't go into detail, but when I say she had serious Manson Lamps, I mean absolutely zero life in her eyes. What he did to her absolutely robbed her of her soul. She will be traumatized for the rest of her life. I'm glad they appealed and got her Hard 50 sentence lowered.
Why? If what you stated to be true, she will get out and kill again.
@@California_Poker It doesn't mean with counseling and help that she can't overcome this. She wasn't born this way. All the abusers created her downfall to try to survive this POS monster. I hope she has gotten help and is healed!!
Your post, if true is inappropriate and a violation of HIPAA. You know better.
@@denesem2161 Grow up ..
@@denesem2161pretty sure it's not a HIPAA violation. It was a correctional facility intake, not a medical facility or even medical care in a correctional facility setting. HIPAA doesn't apply here.
If she was 15-17, Why wouldn't the Mother not get back into her care ? 17 year olds don't get to choose where they live if their parents do not agree.
I was thinking that, too. It doesn't seem she was abused at home.
I was wondering that too, usually parents have to give permission for their underage kids to move out. If she didn't give permission then something could of legally been done. Unless the laws are different there with the age being lower
When a teenager is rebelling all that it would accomplish is to push her further away.
Im sure her mother found that out when she was sneaking out and running away.
It's a hard balance between keeping them safer by control (which usually.backfires) or keeping them safer by keeping communication a thing and hoping they'll reach out when in need of help.
I was one of those teenagers. There wasn't a thing my mother could have done to stop me. She tried, even had me thrown in juvie for running away. It was all useless. Just made me hate her.
I feel like in these types of cases there's always the other side of the coin and we will never know his version. Sadly.
@@mini_skinny0296 Her mom not fighting to keep her away from grown men means she wasn't abused at home? Are you capable of thinking a complete coherent thought?
Love all your videos, from South Africa with love 🇿🇦❤
Crazy because I just saw this case from Investigation Discovery’s “Fear Thy Roommate” show and the angle was different. It never showed Hal as an abuser, rather, he took Sarah in and basically put him to debt because of all her lavish spendings. It also showed a scene where Sarah cooked the rabbit for him and made him eat it 😩🫣
Probably going by court records and evidence. I got the feeling she milked Hal for everything she wanted. She had a roof over her head. She claims Hal wanted nose job, butt and breast implants. I think she wanted what she wanted. While on the run less than 2 weeks she get the tattoo she wanted. Maybe she thought she'd kill him and keep the house. Hal had his buddies over, she wasn't a slave. She was using drugs and drunk as a tween-ager. *Poor Bunny*
Yeah that's most likely the real story , that's why she is doing 50 years
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@@aussi3212yeah, that's real likely 😂 that poor fragile vulnerable helpless malleable docile timid MSN 😂
@@aussi3212No, coffeehouse did the most true story. He absolutely took advantage of her and she made mistakes but didn't we all make mistakes as teens? Add in trauma, pressure, abuse, and holy crud threats too. Wanna put yourself in that and see what you'd do?
I was involved with an abuser, but I was 35, but I was able to move 2500 miles to get away with him, got extensive therapy, and had job skills. After almost a year I was able to move back and restart my life. And luckily he’d moved onto another woman (lucky for me not her) so he left me alone. At 18, used by an older man since age 14, his business your only job reference, getting away couldn’t be easy. Good for her for deleting the creep.
I'm glad you were able to get away
@@lockhak33 thank you.
feel bad for Sarah, failed as a child, failed as a teenager & then was failed by the justice system, shes a girl that needed help not punishment, the guy obviously picked her out & knew exactly what he wanted to use her for, he got what people like him deserve in the end.
So you’re blaming the victim who was killed? And saying the ho who does drugs and let old men have sex with them was innocent ? Gotcha
Blame her parents they did nothing for her
Thank you, Adrian. 😊
Can't say I feel bad for the murder victim. She needs therapy not jail time
There’s therapists in prison
@@chippewaguy4193 Yah, killing innocent rabbits...likes killing
She intentionally killed someone regardless of the circumstances that's still against the law
she sounds dangerous to society, even if others made her that way
Crime is crime.
When she bought and killed the rabbit, she went from a victim to a psychopath.
Pretty childlike take.
@@danielragsdale9849how so?
@@WolfDreamer101 It insists, probably unintentionally, that certain personalities can’t be victims which is silly. Then we’re honing in on the rabbit killing and giving none of it any context or grace, no idea why you’d do that just comes off kind of ignorant. Not to mention it reads like a snappy tagline you’re not meant to think about or look into too long or it starts to sound odd. Not a fan of taglines. You don’t stop becoming one thing and turn into another when it comes to stuff like this. Multiple things can be true. It’s childlike to me.
I live in Lawrence and have not heard about this. Good video!
I've heard this story multiple times, but I still Love hearing it here
Never heard of this case! Thank you for featuring it!
What a fascinating story, my heart breaks for Sarah. I honestly feel like she thought she didn't have a choice. If this guy abused his pets no one would feel sorry if he got bit. That's not to compare Sarah to an animal, but he certainly treated her like one. Based on her history of abuse I don't think she had any idea what resources to access and these horrible people are meticulous with their manipulation. They dont want you to feel like you can just leave. At the same time, you aren't allowed to kill people. Justice was served when she was sentenced, even if I disagree with it. I'm glad she was able to get it reduced but how sad for her to go from one prison to another.
LOVE YOUR SHOW!
These cases are especially eerie when it’s close to home. I’ve been to that Cici’s pizza before. Crazy
Cases like this are frustrating beyond belief. If Hal were tried for what he’d done to her, he’d get a slap on the wrist at most, but Sarah loses a large portion of her life for trying to escape him in the only way that seemed accessible. Since Hal had money and status on his side, I have no doubt he’d get far fewer years if he had taken her life too. It’s a disgusting double standard and we need to make more efforts towards not further disenfranchising those who are victims.
That's the justice system for you; they think women and children are irrelevant.
A total predator. Not surprised she acted out against him. He groomed her, used and abused her. Did she have a psychotic break, so she choose a vulnerable rabbit to take her rage out on - give Harold a message? I don't know, but as a sexually and physically abused young girl and through teen years - I never did that. I only plotted how to get educated (degrees) and get the hell out - start my own life without them part of it. I succeeded.Went on to marry and have 3 wonderful children.
You are very impressive!
Me too! ❤️🩹
Hi Adrian 🌟 How is Nero ? Haven’t seen him for a while.
I’m a cat lover but only got one little lady-cat. Named Zilla. She is the smallest little cat in the neighborhood but the very best rat catcher (don’t eat them but proudly show her work to me) 😁
She is twelve years old now.
What a sad story 😢 thanks Adrian 🙋♀️🌷
He created a monster…. It’s time grown men left little girls alone.
Right on!
Every girl by the age of like 12 knows what men want. I've talked to some of these so called little girls and they brag about the money they get from older men. Then when they get caught play the victim card. Self responsibility is a thing you know.
@@perhapsbutmaybeno they don’t. You are a creep
Blame the teenager not the grown ass, men??
@@JackFirlow
@@JackFirlowsure but it is up to the adult to not abuse a child
What the actual hell. It is astonishing how often the American justice system fails these vulnerable people who are being pushed and forced to make tragic choices in life. I am gobsmacked. I am chocked. Will she get any help in prison, to battle her illness? I do not think so and it makes me so very sad. Had this been taken place in the country that I’m from, she wouldn’t have had to do any traditional jail time. What a terrible destiny 😢
it’s because alot of men would do the same so the identity with Hal IMO
So you’re blaming the victim who was killed? And saying the ho who does drugs and let old men have sex with them was innocent ? Gotcha
What??? She lived with him by her own choice. She liked the comfort, money, drugs.
She is a classic gold-digger. And she deserves to be locked away forever.
@TheBrownMan75 she was In debt to him it wasn't by choice
What a terrible country the US is.
Woahhh, its been a while since I watched one of these videos but I see that subscriber growth. Congratulations! Still love these stories and your oration of them.
Woah I've eaten at cici's pizza many times in high school but a couple of times as an adult with my own children.
Hiring young attractive women is a sales gimmick, not really a red flag on it's own. Hooters exists for a reason.
Considering the abuse and manipulations the woman suffered, she's not a criminal, she's mentally ill and needs help (plus support).
Her parents did a great disservice homeschooling the kid and not working on socializing Sarah. That affected her after the divorce.
How the sexual abuse was considered consensual is crazy.
I think time served is enough for Sarah. She's going to need decades to recover.
Sarah should not be in jail at all, she should be in recieving therapy in a closed hospital! For Hal: Sorry, but I'm not sorry for him! Karma is a bitch! He was only doing good things for him to be praised, I guess! Exploiting an already traumatised girl like he did! Soo sad 💔
I’ve heard of this story before, but I’m interested in listening to Coffeehouse Crime’s take on the events.
Thank you
Damn two mill subs been with you snce 50k good job adrian
As soon as you mentioned that she tortured and killed animals for funsies, I lost all sympathy for her. She's cruel and evil. She didn't deserve to be abused by Hal, but innocent creatures didn't deserve to be abused by her. She's exactly where she belongs.
Agree!
Just a regular gold-digger woman
Thanks for sharing true and solid info mate! Guessing you would know "where you sit with this one," if she was your friend, cousin, or sister. Sarah did her time. She possibly could have saved other women from being preyed upon! Sarah deserves and needs freedom!
When a push comes to a shove, someone's mental health that was already fragile to begin with is bound to shatter. The fact that HE took advantages of her by fueling her drug/alcohol addiction (It being a coping mechanism) is truly disgusting. I don't care if he did "good" back to the community, that doesn't undo what Sarah McLinn went through or the two teenage girls. She was already spiraling and he just threw fuel into the fire. I do think he should have faced justice and went to prison for the rest of his life and have what is coming to him tenfold by other inmates. She never should have done what she did and unfortunately for both families, something inside of her snapped. What she really needs is help for her mental health. I find it rather disturbing that his family acknowledge the wrong doing, but basically told the victim "Suck to suck" because they want to say "Good" things about him. He doesn't deserve it, just like she never deserved to be treated as such.
He didn't "do good" he created camouflage. It is the same with peados running youth groups, sports teams etc. they create an outward image of being great with the kids but carefully pick the ones they abuse as being the ones least likely or able to report it. They create that outward image deliberately so that people are less likely to report them as they know that the community idolizes them and are likely to turn on anyone that speaks out against them.
Mc Linn? I thought it was Gonzalez
real, i agree
Guarantee you have a huge dangling septum piercing and blue hair
@@icankillbugs do u habe a canser boss
An informational meeting is being held in Topeka May 20th 6-8 pm at Topeka Shawnee County Library. It is concerning Clemency it is open to the public. Same meeting held in Lawrence at their Library May 23th 6-8 pm.
Her turn to violence brings to mind Eileen Wuornos. Her lifetime of abuse, beginning at seven years old, was never considered at her trial. I don't really support the death penalty in most cases but I was appalled when it was given to her. Tragic. Hal was a predator, a groomer and abuser. He pre planned her enslavement for two years. Longer than she spent planning his murder.
Predator and prey. The dynamics of the abuser and victim, the justice system as it tries to hold the parties accountable for their actions. This one is a tough one indeed. Thanks for sharing this story.
2 million subs coming soon to you Adrian, Congratulations‼️
As a mental health expert I think Sarah should be doing time in a psych hospital not prison. The abuse she endured, she should be found NGRI or "not guilty by reason of insanity". Sounds like the court was somewhat conservative & they are known for its almost zero compassion. These courts tend to be too punitive in their approach. However liberal courts have a tendency to be too lenient & criminals get freed. So within the political posturing of the justice system this poor girl got lost. The true psychopath here is Harold, who manipulated and abused this poor girl. It is a shame he did not live to be put in prison.
I hope we can understand the severity of the influence mental health has on a person's well being. Too often, mental health issues are not weighed in circumstances.
Great content! Shout out from Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA 💪🏻
...yo, Santa Fe! Sup?!
mid Missouri
In her first interview with detective, she literally said she just wanted to kill somebody and he was closest person.
But everything here is said from her perspective. We will never know about his perspective, since she googled how to slit throats, bought zip ties, spiked his drink, gutted him, painted freedom with his blood, stole his car, called for work to said she has death in family, run away, and went to get tattoo... Oh did i also mentioned she had a gun and could simply shoot him instad of all that ?
"Axman showed a four-feet piece of sheetrock from Sasko’s home. A stick figure with a face is drawn on it, along with a heart drawing, and the upper and lower abdomen, which was labeled with “Major Organ 1 & 2.” The stick figure’s thigh areas were circled and labeled “Major blood vessel” with arrows pointing to groin area.
There are holes and indents all over the , and Axman says they are consistent with someone throwing a knife at the stick figure, leaving holes where the blade hit."
Moral of a story: don't be trapped in sugardaddy world, no matter from what perspective you are looking into it.
Adrian - If ever "guilty by reason of insanity" applied in a case, this would be it. She should be hospitalized for DID psychotherapy and support. And I'd like to know if her parents tried to help after her childhood trauma. Sarah was failed in so many ways...I'm equal parts sad & pissed.
Let's caffienate while we investigate. Lavet!!! 😂😂😂
The reason victims get harsher punishments than the perpetrators is because more often than not the judges over the case are predators as well. I hope she’s freed early
No way the abuse should have been concealed in court. I certainly wouldn't have called that consensual seeing as how she felt she had no other option.
from the law's POV she didn't go to the police to report their "relationship" being non-consensual. Therefore there's no proof - only her word post-crime. Stuff like "she felt" also doesn't work as a line of defense. Violence can either be in self-defense or not.
Now I don't doubt Harold is just absolutely to blame and I agree that the sentencing is harsh and she needed to be admitted to the mental institution instead - but there's a reason the law should stay neutral. Or we would see a lot of people getting away with murder like that - even without any abuse.
Wow that's absolutely nuts! You covered this one so well ❤
Just got home from work omg perfect timing to watch a coffeehouse video and unwind HI ADRIAN!
Hello, I always feel intrigued by your amazing crime investigation series. 👍 I feel so sorry for the victim who had no choice but to murder the evil man who tortured her. 😢
Didnt have coffee yesterday. Have coffee today. Now I can enjoy this as it wws meant to be 😊
Wow I've never been this early!! Love your vids Adrian, you're always so respectful towards the victims and their families. I love the background info on the locations too, it really helps set the scene for the case. Thanks for making great content!
I was feeling sorry for her until you got to the part about the rabbit…I’m pretty sure she could have run away while he was at work. However Harold was a scumbag.
Yup the fact she went out there to do that to a rabbit I have no compassion for her, I don’t for him but he is where he is now. I think she needs to be locked up for that 50 years
She continued to live with him for comfort, money, drugs. She is a classic gold-digger. And she deserves to be locked away forever.
@@Bunny11344 For a rabbit? The maximum penalty for animal cruelty is 3-5 years in many states.
@@TheBrownMan75 You obviously have no idea what a "classic gold-digger " is. They are the ones who manipulate for financial gain. She was not in comfort by any means. She accepted drugs to dull the pervasive pain of her existence. Damn, dude, she was a sheltered 18 year-old and he was in his 50s! He was keeping a ledger on her and wanted every cent he spent to be repaid! That is straight-up exploitation of a vulnerable young woman.
@@Maybebaby56 don’t forget she also unalived someone. She’s nutso
He kept a tab of what she owed, which I’m sure she wasn’t told when first invited into his lair. That tab of owing him back and couldn’t leave until then sounds an awful lot like how traffickers work. This poor girl. So much trauma.