Thanks for the heads up about the canges on the 302. Also, I had an experience when I installed 351W heads on a 302 block. Unknown to me, the heads had been milled way down to the point where I had to have the intake manifold end rails milled so the manifold gaskets would seal. The compression was also rather high, I had to run aviation gasoline in it. It went like hell, though! I'll avoid buying milled heads in the future.
After timing it with a stop watch over 1/4 mile, the net horsepower at the rear wheels was approx 415 HP. Due to sloppy work and over-milling the heads by the former owner, it was nothing but aggravation. I had it in a '75 Maverick. Top speed with a 3:50 rear was 140 mph timed over one mile.
My 65 Mustang has a 302 originally out of an 86 Ford van. It went in about 15 years ago. We went with all the front end accessories from the 60s style 289. Looking at the engine, you would think it is a 289. We had to change the front cover and pan as you said. The front of the 302 crank was shaved a bit so the accessories would mount as if it were a 289.
I put a 5.0 from a 90 Mustang into my 68. I used shorty headers and the timing cover from my 289. I also added the fuel pump eccentric and my old distributor which I had to change the gear on as to not destroy the aftermarket cam. Everything was on track until I had an issue I didnt read about anywhere. I am using the accessories from my 289 and the power steering bracket bolt didnt fit the 5.0 head. I didnt want to ruin the original aluminum bracket so I bought a '70 stang ps bracket and drilled out the correct bolt size for the 5.0 head. Almost there.
Water pump on serpentine drive is opposite rotation than V-belt. Make sure timing cover matches the pump rotation. The 289 cover works for V belt but timing pointer is opposite side. Have to mark TDC on damper to time ignition.
Where did you get your oil pan and oil pickup tube from. What is the part number. I'm doing the same setup on my 67, but having trouble with what oil pan to use
What about those using V belt? Don't you need to change the water pump/timing cover to rotate the other way? And as noted below, change the gear (compatible with steel cam) on the vintage distributor if you are trying to make a more original looking build.
Good info brother, im doing a swap on a 67 mustang motor is in just trying to figure out what accessories should i go with early style 289 or late 302 i have all the accessories of a 86 5.0 engine any info with be greatful TIA
I am putting a 94 5.0 in a 65 Comet. You had a video about porting the E7 heads and you put in only one bigger valve, was it the intake and if so how big of a valve was it? Only option I have now are the E7's is there anything else you would suggest? It's going to have a dual plane intake and 4 barrel. Headers are going to be another project. Thanks, Harv
You don't want to confuse somebody into thinking that the Windsor pan will fit on a 302 because the rear main is larger on the Windsor anyways that thing would be cool with a hilborn injection setup on top
Hello, hope all is well your way. I have a later model 302. Engine casting 36 E7TE CA. I'm guessing 1987 truck engine. I want to put it in a 1965 mustang. The problem I having is my pulley are not lining up. I have a 4 bolt damper. What vehicles or where can I find the correct pulleys for v belts setup.
Hi. Is throwing one of these fox body 5.0 L engines into a 60s Mustang as worthwhile of a technology, performance and reliability upgrade as an old SBC to LS swap is?
Hey Brotha I have just a few questions I have a 66 mustang that I plan on doing a 5.0 efi swap from a fox body mustang I just wanted to see what I would need besides the rear end and suspension upgrades this is going to be my first swap/build with help from my brother he has the 5.0 and 5 speed transmission I just have to get the rest any advice you can give me I would really appreciate does all this apply to a 66 or will their be more parts and add in’s to make this work?
What year timing cover do i need to get? I am putting a 5.0 from a 2001 Explorer into my 66 and using a mech. fuel pump and I guess the 74-85 is different. Can I use the one from the 66 289?
I have a '91 5.0 that's been swapped into my '68 Mustang. It's carb'd and I'm using all of the accessories from the old 289. One issue I ran into is that I'm using the heads from the 5.0 and the bolt for the power steering pump (from the 289) is too small for the 5.0 heads. I can't for the life of me find an adapter, and I can't use the 5.0 bolt on the 289 power steering bracket because the openings are too small. I'm reading that the 289 used 3/8 internal threads for the bolt and the 5.0 uses 7/16. Unfortunately I'm at a stand still, have been for a while. Any recommendations?
Yep this one is easy use a stepped stud one end is 3/8 for the pump and the other end is 7/16 copperstate should have them, the other fix is to drill out the ps bracket hole
I believe I've messaged you a couple of times regarding cylinder heads for a 1970 Mark 3 I'm sure I wrote you a book anyway I would like to know how much or if we could discuss what your procedure is I currently live in the Seattle area and I'm not sure if shipping is expensive and just purchasing them locally would be better I prefer to buy them from you though I am a fan and a little extra money what bother me to say I bought these cylinder heads from you I love watching your videos even though I'm inexperienced who is Young repair owner operator and I guess a moderate mechanic anyway Here I Go Again that's the New Jersey in me blah blah blah sorry could you respond to let me know please I just want straightforward rebuilt heads and some advice would be appreciated but I'm sure you're a very busy person especially now winter is coming thank you keep up the good work they should put you on TV instead of some of these other stupid shows
Myvintageiron7512, I have to be honest Im kind of starstruck,; I do want the heads so I just needed to know what information you need if any. Do you want the old heads. I'll message you via Facebook, I'd like to replace the cam and lifters. I'm not getting any kind of performance cam, just original.!! where do I send you money to at least get the heads on the way. Thank you for your patience I understand you're busy I just want to ask a dumb question, is that what they are 390 Fe heads it's a 1970 Cont) exhaust seats will be {the only upgrade per se thank you.
no but I used to own a 72 Datsun pickup with an L20B I loved that truck to this day that is still one of my favorite vehicle's those are really great little engines the 6 Cly version in the 260/280Z was a real screamer if you built it right my buddy had a datsun roadster with the L20 we buuilt it with duel carbs and a header it was wicked fast
try putting a 390 in a 64 ford pu with the old 312 in it with front mount then it was a 63 t bird 390 with the cast iron automatic with out the bell housing found that ford made 3 different bolt patterns on the 390 and a 390 63 t bird is one of a kind the stander 390 it has none of the same bolt pasterns block and trans the other rare one has the same block but not the trans so i had to drill and tap the trans bolts to the bell housing but stock the 390 i had has 400 hp with the tri witch i got with the engine rebuilt for 75 bucks that is y i used it it was cheap because after 2 years the guy could not find a bell housing for it . i was just going to build it from scratch but found the one i did and it was a lot faster to do .
I would like to be a costumer of yours can you please help I have a 383 stroker 1991 Camaro RS matte black that needs some help thank you for your videos
Because you have the option if running a carb the front cover is needed for the dipstick placement you need to block off the fuel pump boss for FI just like I said in the video THX for posting
Great tips!. Remember having to do that to a Lincoln 5.0 I dropped into a 73 Maverick yrs back.
Thanks for the heads up about the canges on the 302. Also, I had an experience when I installed 351W heads on a 302 block. Unknown to me, the heads had been milled way down to the point where I had to have the intake manifold end rails milled so the manifold gaskets would seal. The compression was also rather high, I had to run aviation gasoline in it. It went like hell, though! I'll avoid buying milled heads in the future.
Awesome! Any power estimations?
After timing it with a stop watch over 1/4 mile, the net horsepower at the rear wheels was approx 415 HP. Due to sloppy work and over-milling the heads by the former owner, it was nothing but aggravation. I had it in a '75 Maverick. Top speed with a 3:50 rear was 140 mph timed over one mile.
nice to see you back.
My neighbor and I did this on his 1966 mustang. Rumor has it these efi 5.0's came with forged pistons from the factory! It's a fun swap!
My 65 Mustang has a 302 originally out of an 86 Ford van. It went in about 15 years ago. We went with all the front end accessories from the 60s style 289. Looking at the engine, you would think it is a 289. We had to change the front cover and pan as you said. The front of the 302 crank was shaved a bit so the accessories would mount as if it were a 289.
I put a 5.0 from a 90 Mustang into my 68. I used shorty headers and the timing cover from my 289. I also added the fuel pump eccentric and my old distributor which I had to change the gear on as to not destroy the aftermarket cam. Everything was on track until I had an issue I didnt read about anywhere. I am using the accessories from my 289 and the power steering bracket bolt didnt fit the 5.0 head. I didnt want to ruin the original aluminum bracket so I bought a '70 stang ps bracket and drilled out the correct bolt size for the 5.0 head. Almost there.
thanks for the information! your videos are awesome! so, can i use the mechanical fuel pump with the EFI on this set up?
Water pump on serpentine drive is opposite rotation than V-belt. Make sure timing cover matches the pump rotation. The 289 cover works for V belt but timing pointer is opposite side. Have to mark TDC on damper to time ignition.
yes that's correct it is always best to fins true TDC with the heads off or a piston stop with the heads on
Where did you get your oil pan and oil pickup tube from. What is the part number. I'm doing the same setup on my 67, but having trouble with what oil pan to use
Nice vid, you were my 1st phase instructor like 9 years ago. Keep up the good content 👍.
What about those using V belt? Don't you need to change the water pump/timing cover to rotate the other way? And as noted below, change the gear (compatible with steel cam) on the vintage distributor if you are trying to make a more original looking build.
Good info brother, im doing a swap on a 67 mustang motor is in just trying to figure out what accessories should i go with early style 289 or late 302 i have all the accessories of a 86 5.0 engine any info with be greatful TIA
Windsors are my favourite builds! I'd be dropping that 351 into that '67!
I am putting a 94 5.0 in a 65 Comet. You had a video about porting the E7 heads and you put in only one bigger valve, was it the intake and if so how big of a valve was it? Only option I have now are the E7's is there anything else you would suggest? It's going to have a dual plane intake and 4 barrel. Headers are going to be another project.
Thanks, Harv
You don't want to confuse somebody into thinking that the Windsor pan will fit on a 302 because the rear main is larger on the Windsor anyways that thing would be cool with a hilborn injection setup on top
That is a great point and very correct the 351 Pan will not fit on a 302 I was just pointing out the rear sump pan as opposed to the front sump
Myvintageiron7512 it's because they look identical they're like twins unless you know them you can't tell them apart
Great vid and wisdom. 👍🏼
Hello, hope all is well your way. I have a later model 302. Engine casting 36 E7TE CA. I'm guessing 1987 truck engine. I want to put it in a 1965 mustang. The problem I having is my pulley are not lining up. I have a 4 bolt damper. What vehicles or where can I find the correct pulleys for v belts setup.
Hi. Is throwing one of these fox body 5.0 L engines into a 60s Mustang as worthwhile of a technology, performance and reliability upgrade as an old SBC to LS swap is?
Great to see you back!!
Hey Brotha I have just a few questions I have a 66 mustang that I plan on doing a 5.0 efi swap from a fox body mustang I just wanted to see what I would need besides the rear end and suspension upgrades this is going to be my first swap/build with help from my brother he has the 5.0 and 5 speed transmission I just have to get the rest any advice you can give me I would really appreciate does all this apply to a 66 or will their be more parts and add in’s to make this work?
Good to see you back. Has the temperature dropped yet?
Keep up the great videos👍
Oh yea weather is nice now
What year timing cover do i need to get? I am putting a 5.0 from a 2001 Explorer into my 66 and using a mech. fuel pump and I guess the 74-85 is different. Can I use the one from the 66 289?
Starting to do this swap soon. Could I fit the 5.0 out of a fox in with the water pump on? Or should I wait on that??
Im confused ! What happened to the LS Build that is coming soon..... from 5 months ago ?
Thank for the vid, We like all your ford stull
What about the computer, wiring etc
Can you tell me where you got the timing cover?
I have a '91 5.0 that's been swapped into my '68 Mustang. It's carb'd and I'm using all of the accessories from the old 289. One issue I ran into is that I'm using the heads from the 5.0 and the bolt for the power steering pump (from the 289) is too small for the 5.0 heads. I can't for the life of me find an adapter, and I can't use the 5.0 bolt on the 289 power steering bracket because the openings are too small. I'm reading that the 289 used 3/8 internal threads for the bolt and the 5.0 uses 7/16. Unfortunately I'm at a stand still, have been for a while. Any recommendations?
Yep this one is easy use a stepped stud one end is 3/8 for the pump and the other end is 7/16 copperstate should have them,
the other fix is to drill out the ps bracket hole
Cool season is in. Bring on the projects. Please. ☺
I believe I've messaged you a couple of times regarding cylinder heads for a 1970 Mark 3 I'm sure I wrote you a book anyway I would like to know how much or if we could discuss what your procedure is I currently live in the Seattle area and I'm not sure if shipping is expensive and just purchasing them locally would be better I prefer to buy them from you though I am a fan and a little extra money what bother me to say I bought these cylinder heads from you I love watching your videos even though I'm inexperienced who is Young repair owner operator and I guess a moderate mechanic anyway Here I Go Again that's the New Jersey in me blah blah blah sorry could you respond to let me know please I just want straightforward rebuilt heads and some advice would be appreciated but I'm sure you're a very busy person especially now winter is coming thank you keep up the good work they should put you on TV instead of some of these other stupid shows
$600.00 for rebuilt 390 FE Heads that includes shipping to seattle
Myvintageiron7512, I have to be honest Im kind of starstruck,; I do want the heads so I just needed to know what information you need if any. Do you want the old heads. I'll message you via Facebook, I'd like to replace the cam and lifters. I'm not getting any kind of performance cam, just original.!!
where do I send you money to at least get the heads on the way. Thank you for your patience I understand you're busy I just want to ask a dumb question, is that what they are 390 Fe heads it's a 1970 Cont) exhaust seats will be {the only upgrade per se thank you.
So can I put my 06 mustang engine in a 67 mustang?
Have you done a datsun/nissan l28 project?
no but I used to own a 72 Datsun pickup with an L20B I loved that truck to this day that is still one of my favorite vehicle's those are really great little engines the 6 Cly version in the 260/280Z was a real screamer if you built it right my buddy had a datsun roadster with the L20 we buuilt it with duel carbs and a header it was wicked fast
When are you going to finish the 390 stroker??
try putting a 390 in a 64 ford pu with the old 312 in it with front mount then it was a 63 t bird 390 with the cast iron automatic with out the bell housing found that ford made 3 different bolt patterns on the 390 and a 390 63 t bird is one of a kind the stander 390 it has none of the same bolt pasterns block and trans the other rare one has the same block but not the trans so i had to drill and tap the trans bolts to the bell housing but stock the 390 i had has 400 hp with the tri witch i got with the engine rebuilt for 75 bucks that is y i used it it was cheap because after 2 years the guy could not find a bell housing for it . i was just going to build it from scratch but found the one i did and it was a lot faster to do .
Would custom engine mounts be required to drop this in a 67? Or are the stock old 302 engine mounts going to work?
The mounts are the same
Also what headers would I have to use in order to clear the steering box,shock tower and trans? 67 vert auto
Keep going forward
Nice as allways
What about using an electronic fp
Hmmm i like that hood in the background!
Off topic. Are you going to the Zip-Tie drags in January?
Most likely yes
I had a 67 mustang i wanted to do the same thing with but never did
What's up with the FE build?
I've got a 99 explorer with a 5.0 what version is that one? heard it was a hybrid with different heads?
Probably GT40 heads but the lower block is identical
Yeah GT40 heads are supposed to be good stock heads. it's sought after for swaps.
Gabe Tabor the only reason I got that thing was because of the 5.0 very rare now days love driving it
The 5.0 is from a 1989 Mustang and is going into a 65 Mustang. Owner
been a while since we seen ya just wanted to let you know I saw a 351w in a bronco with a 4 barrel and thought it would be a good build.
Stock 302 blocks, would it be worth having 4 bolt main caps put on it?
Not if your running 450hp and under. I’m building a 302 to run 400hp and the 2 bolt main works just great
@@Evan_5.7 it will be used in a dirt car, 7000 rpms at some points and steady on the gas.
Shannon Buckley Ok so higher than 400?
What's the deal on the 66 ? ,and location.
It's here in phoenix it's for sale if you are interested
I would like to be a costumer of yours can you please help I have a 383 stroker 1991 Camaro RS matte black that needs some help thank you for your videos
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We have these engines in some older australian fords ))
Indeed we do... my brother just picked up an XR8 ute...
Iv seen a couple of old ambos, with a 351 W EFI as well
Multiple examples given to steer clear of Ford motor swaps.
I'm doing the same swap
Why are all these guys working out of their house if it’s a legitimate establishment
What guys are you talking about
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If this motor is running fuel injection, what's the point of having a mechanical fuel pump provision?
Because you have the option if running a carb the front cover is needed for the dipstick placement you need to block off the fuel pump boss for FI just like I said in the video
THX for posting
Myvintageiron7512 ok thanks