My roommate was a Tesla tech and he checked the alignment of my new Tesla y just to see how off it was from the factory. It was a little off and fixed it. I did bring up, concerned with the inner wear of the tire problem and he told me they aren’t designed to adjust that camber. There are some aftermarket control arms so you can adjust the camber so in theory it would more evenly wear. I decided to just see how long and can go I did get over 35,000 but then the inner walls of the tires were exposing their layers. Replaced them with some cheap accelera 285/35/21 and they work great. Thinking of trying 295/35/21 to see if I get more rim protection. Excited to compare the longevity of these new cheap tires vs the old pilot Goodyears.
Most cars have negative camber. This is probably in spec. You're correct. 25k/30k miles and small amount of camber wear is not bad at all. I wouldn't spend money on an alignment.
I have a performance Y. I run after market wheels. I have a set of 19" and a set of 18" (summer and winter). They are a square set up rather than staggered (255 front and back). The square set up allows me to rotate front to back.
One thing all Tesla owners need to be aware of once a year you need to have the wheel lug nuts properly torqued. The lug nuts loosen due the high electric motor torque and can cause uneven tire wear. I have a torque wrench and every year that I have checked the lug nuts have loosened. I drive about 10,000 miles a year. Don't assume your tire provider properly torques the wheels.
I would recommend to get the alignment done during the time of your tire replacement. Preventing an alignment will cause a loss in mileage per trip, excessive wear to not only the tires but to the suspension, and overtime the alignment may get worse.
Model Y performance have staggered tires, so having a square setup is probably ideal. Being able to rotate all wheel front to back/back to front will for sure last longer.
Are you sure? I didn’t go downstairs to look, but I just had my tires rotated and I assumed that meant not just swapped from the left side to the right side lol I’m pretty sure they swapped all four around like they’re supposed to.
Same experience with my 2022 MYP, I just replaced them with the same tire, I was told the tires that come from the factory don’t last as long as the same tire aftermarket
If they are Michelin's they are the same tire. I spoke with a Michelin guy at the Tesla Takeover, they don't make a different model tire that wear out faster, it's just the nature of these cars. He said even a rear alignment won't help. 30-35k is what they expect driving normally.
This is kind of a wive's tale type of lie that became "common-knowledge." Costco Michelin is the same as Discount Tire Michelin is the same as Michelin from anywhere else. I can't stand that places tell people this. The only difference is the model number might be a litle different.
Honestly we both have same year car mine was delivered in March of 2022 and already got 24k miles I will just be getting new rear tires alignment no need for it.
I have the same issue with my MYLR with performance boost. What I do is I switch the tires to the other rim on the rear and the front. Left to right , right to left. That puts the worn edge on the outside making the tire last longer.
I have 2022 Model Y Performance took delivery Nov 2021. Mine came with Pirellis P Zero tires. At 19K miles my back tires are 3/32. The front are around 5/32. I am replacing all 4 with Michelin Pilot Sport All Season as Costco has $150 off.
@@PerformanceY Michelin are great- huge improvement...big difference is Pirelli are summer tires...michelin all season...will last much much longer...ride is much improved as is range
I went with 295/35/21 on rear 275/35/21 in front Tesla has these set up with negative camber for handling. I changed mine at 31k and went with FORCE from Amazon got all four for 600 bucks!! The cars are set slightly toed in on front spec and neg camber more on left front. Tesla will not help you on the alignment. They want $280 for a four wheel alignment and they do nothing but set the tow in the front because they say it’s within their spec and their specs suck as far as I’m concerned, so I’ve been looking for an aftermarket camber kit to set the thing up so you’re gonna get 50,000 miles out of your tires especially if you do the Tesla Michelin’s that are firm lined they’re almost $500 per tire. There is a difference in ambient Tire noise but it’s negligible so at this point I felt if I got to replace him I’ll just get the cheapest thing I can find that’s going to give me the best performance and by the way when you up the size of the tires the ride is considerably better
I have 2022 Model Y performance. Received it on 09/06/22. I had the rear tires inverted (inner side went outside) when I reach 30k. I will try if it could reach 45k before i will replace all tires.
I am rideshare driver and I have 28,000 miles and I have an another 2000 miles before I have to replace them. I only have my car of almost 4 months. I will be going with 295/35/21 and I will be doing the alignment.
I got a model 3 like 6 months old, the 2 back rears already at 5mm. No way these tires will last 20k. I’m worried they won’t even last 10k. Front is at 7mm. I just rotated them today. Idk maybe I’ve been more heavy footed then I thought. 🤷🏼♂️
I just replaced mine at 14,554 miles. Inner edge was worn to the cords. Had the alignment checked and camber was negative 2.8 I just don't get how it could be that bad in 8 months and the camber is not adjustable. How is this possible unless car was built with it so far out to begin with.
@@chrisverba7844 Wow that is surprising, such low mileage for replacement. After the rotation, now months later I’m 5mm all the way around. But will look into checking the alignment soon.
My 2024 MYP came with the Hancock tires. Are they better than Michelin. I only have 500 miles on them so far. Did you get a response from Discount Tire/America's Tire regarding the warranty
I've never had Hankook tires, so I wouldn't know, but I'll be shopping tires soon as the Michelin's are crazy expensive and we don't really use the Performance aspect of our Performance. Thanks for watching.
i got a possibly puncture in my rear driver side wheel and will probably replace both rear tires. would you recommend Pirelli (stocked) or should i get Michelin AS?
We were the first batch of Y's in Los Angeles to get AS Michelin's, which we stuck with for our rear tire replacements. Our fronts are still perfectly fine at 40k miles. Thanks for watching
The Tesla has sport car level performance. So...."The aggressive performance tires on a powerful sports car may need to be replaced after less than 15,000 miles." This is no surprise. I had to replace at 12k but I have a lead foot. I replaced them with the same model "used" tires. I only buy tires with at least 85% tread. You'll save 60-75%. You may have to buy 1s or pairs and complete a set.
You can’t have a alinement with a old tire. Every time I replaced all four new tires I always get the alignment done even though I don’t think I needed to. Rather to be safe than sorry. Spending around $100 more for alignment to be sure is much better than ending up with one of the tire wearing out faster than the other tire and end up having to replace both tires. I can stand it if I have one tire is older than the other one left and right. That’s just me.
I'm going with 42psi since the app and door jamb sticker say that for both, however we don't have winter in Los Angeles, even though we did have 3 snow days this year ;)
If I were you, I would change the tires, then do the alignment with the new ones. On my performance, I have 275 in the front and 295 on the back. Gives me more tire rubber, hence better road driving The original tires are over stretched on the 21 inch rims
@Tesla Tips & Trips yes. The one's that you have. My friend just received his performance and he moved the back to the front, sold the 255 and bought the 295's for the back and he said that he loves the ride quality. He went over a deep pothole here in Santa Clarita last week and suffered no tire damage because of the tire thickness. They're not stretched anymore
@@TeslaTipsTrips If I had to do it over again I would favor the tires on a long range model 3 for a better ride, less expensive and more tire choices or options and less chance of curbing the tires and damaging the the tires and rims.
Tesla's alignment tolerances are too large. They have the "that's good enough" attitude. Your first alignment should been done at 5k to 6.5K. You need to do a weighted/ballasted alignment. Then every year when you do your annual maintenance you check for alignment wear.
My roommate was a Tesla tech and he checked the alignment of my new Tesla y just to see how off it was from the factory. It was a little off and fixed it. I did bring up, concerned with the inner wear of the tire problem and he told me they aren’t designed to adjust that camber. There are some aftermarket control arms so you can adjust the camber so in theory it would more evenly wear. I decided to just see how long and can go I did get over 35,000 but then the inner walls of the tires were exposing their layers. Replaced them with some cheap accelera 285/35/21 and they work great. Thinking of trying 295/35/21 to see if I get more rim protection. Excited to compare the longevity of these new cheap tires vs the old pilot Goodyears.
Thank you for sharing this experience. I had heard the same about our camber issue. I appreciate you watching and commenting!
@@feldmannimports how are those tires holding up?
@@JonathanCWardthey only lasted 20,000 miles. Now trying some 700aa rated blackhawks.
Most cars have negative camber. This is probably in spec. You're correct. 25k/30k miles and small amount of camber wear is not bad at all. I wouldn't spend money on an alignment.
I agree
I have a performance Y. I run after market wheels. I have a set of 19" and a set of 18" (summer and winter). They are a square set up rather than staggered (255 front and back). The square set up allows me to rotate front to back.
I am looking into squaring the set since my wife isn’t racing this thing. More practical 😀 thanks for watching
Beside comfort ,did you noticed speed and mpg difference? Thanks
Finally got another set of wheels for winter like that
One thing all Tesla owners need to be aware of once a year you need to have the wheel lug nuts properly torqued. The lug nuts loosen due the high electric motor torque and can cause uneven tire wear. I have a torque wrench and every year that I have checked the lug nuts have loosened. I drive about 10,000 miles a year. Don't assume your tire provider properly torques the wheels.
I would recommend to get the alignment done during the time of your tire replacement. Preventing an alignment will cause a loss in mileage per trip, excessive wear to not only the tires but to the suspension, and overtime the alignment may get worse.
All good points!
Model Y performance have staggered tires, so having a square setup is probably ideal. Being able to rotate all wheel front to back/back to front will for sure last longer.
Are you sure? I didn’t go downstairs to look, but I just had my tires rotated and I assumed that meant not just swapped from the left side to the right side lol I’m pretty sure they swapped all four around like they’re supposed to.
Same experience with my 2022 MYP, I just replaced them with the same tire, I was told the tires that come from the factory don’t last as long as the same tire aftermarket
If they are Michelin's they are the same tire. I spoke with a Michelin guy at the Tesla Takeover, they don't make a different model tire that wear out faster, it's just the nature of these cars. He said even a rear alignment won't help. 30-35k is what they expect driving normally.
This is kind of a wive's tale type of lie that became "common-knowledge." Costco Michelin is the same as Discount Tire Michelin is the same as Michelin from anywhere else. I can't stand that places tell people this. The only difference is the model number might be a litle different.
I just ordered 295/275 for mine. The fronts are ok shape. I have 28k miles but want more sidewall and rim protection.
The “Tesla Clause” dad joke at the end was epic… 😂😂😂
Thanks!
Tire warranties are usually halved for staggered arrangements.
Hey, did you do tire rotation? I think that would have evened out the inner wear.
Can't do a tire rotation with the Performance Model. Different size wheels on rear.
@@RT-zg9qi Switch rear tires side to side?
I do want to try this!
Honestly we both have same year car mine was delivered in March of 2022 and already got 24k miles I will just be getting new rear tires alignment no need for it.
That’s what I’m thinking also
Get adjustable camber arms and fix the out of spec camber and tires will last longer.
I have the same issue with my MYLR with performance boost. What I do is I switch the tires to the other rim on the rear and the front. Left to right , right to left. That puts the worn edge on the outside making the tire last longer.
You can just rotate your tire’s normally though. I cannot. Thanks for watching.
@@TeslaTipsTrips you can switch them side to side on the rims. That will even out the wear and double the life of your tires.
I have 2022 Model Y Performance took delivery Nov 2021. Mine came with Pirellis P Zero tires. At 19K miles my back tires are 3/32. The front are around 5/32. I am replacing all 4 with Michelin Pilot Sport All Season as Costco has $150 off.
Good to know. Thanks. I’ll check Costco.
Hi. I olso got my Model Y Performance with Pirelis. How is ride quality on Michelins compered to Pirelis?
@@PerformanceY Michelin are great- huge improvement...big difference is Pirelli are summer tires...michelin all season...will last much much longer...ride is much improved as is range
@@PerformanceY Michelins are the BEST tires period!
I went with 295/35/21 on rear
275/35/21 in front
Tesla has these set up with negative camber for handling.
I changed mine at 31k and went with FORCE from Amazon got all four for 600 bucks!! The cars are set slightly toed in on front spec and neg camber more on left front. Tesla will not help you on the alignment. They want $280 for a four wheel alignment and they do nothing but set the tow in the front because they say it’s within their spec and their specs suck as far as I’m concerned, so I’ve been looking for an aftermarket camber kit to set the thing up so you’re gonna get 50,000 miles out of your tires especially if you do the Tesla Michelin’s that are firm lined they’re almost $500 per tire. There is a difference in ambient Tire noise but it’s negligible so at this point I felt if I got to replace him I’ll just get the cheapest thing I can find that’s going to give me the best performance and by the way when you up the size of the tires the ride is considerably better
Valuable information here, thank you!
I have 2022 Model Y performance. Received it on 09/06/22. I had the rear tires inverted (inner side went outside) when I reach 30k. I will try if it could reach 45k before i will replace all tires.
Can you rotate side to side or are tires directional?
You can, but the inside groove, would still be the inside groove.
I am rideshare driver and I have 28,000 miles and I have an another 2000 miles before I have to replace them. I only have my car of almost 4 months. I will be going with 295/35/21 and I will be doing the alignment.
Let us know how the alignment goes, I'm hearing the rear alignment is useless, but maybe not? Thanks for watching
Sell the car and get a Prius
@@adan7182 werd
I got a model 3 like 6 months old, the 2 back rears already at 5mm. No way these tires will last 20k. I’m worried they won’t even last 10k. Front is at 7mm. I just rotated them today. Idk maybe I’ve been more heavy footed then I thought. 🤷🏼♂️
I just replaced mine at 14,554 miles. Inner edge was worn to the cords. Had the alignment checked and camber was negative 2.8
I just don't get how it could be that bad in 8 months and the camber is not adjustable. How is this possible unless car was built with it so far out to begin with.
I ordered adjustable camber links/arms in hopes I can fix this horrible issue.
@@chrisverba7844 Wow that is surprising, such low mileage for replacement. After the rotation, now months later I’m 5mm all the way around. But will look into checking the alignment soon.
@@chrisverba7844same problem here
Will range increase with 18" or 19" wheels on the performance model Y ?
Perhaps, slightly.
My 2024 MYP came with the Hancock tires. Are they better than Michelin. I only have 500 miles on them so far. Did you get a response from Discount Tire/America's Tire regarding the warranty
I've never had Hankook tires, so I wouldn't know, but I'll be shopping tires soon as the Michelin's are crazy expensive and we don't really use the Performance aspect of our Performance. Thanks for watching.
i got a possibly puncture in my rear driver side wheel and will probably replace both rear tires. would you recommend Pirelli (stocked) or should i get Michelin AS?
We were the first batch of Y's in Los Angeles to get AS Michelin's, which we stuck with for our rear tire replacements. Our fronts are still perfectly fine at 40k miles. Thanks for watching
The Tesla has sport car level performance. So...."The aggressive performance tires on a powerful sports car may need to be replaced after less than 15,000 miles." This is no surprise. I had to replace at 12k but I have a lead foot. I replaced them with the same model "used" tires. I only buy tires with at least 85% tread. You'll save 60-75%. You may have to buy 1s or pairs and complete a set.
Did you have an update on what they said about the tire warranty at 30k.
Yes, as expected tire warranties are a myth. Got new rears in another video. Fronts are still looking great. Thanks for watching!
Would you put cheaper tires on your car? Why or why not? I have pirellis on mine and I think they are too expensive.
I have Michelins all season on mine. I like them. I’ll probably stick with them but I need to shop around a bit. Thanks for watching.
You can’t have a alinement with a old tire. Every time I replaced all four new tires I always get the alignment done even though I don’t think I needed to. Rather to be safe than sorry. Spending around $100 more for alignment to be sure is much better than ending up with one of the tire wearing out faster than the other tire and end up having to replace both tires. I can stand it if I have one tire is older than the other one left and right. That’s just me.
Can? Or can't ??
Warranty is cut in half on staggered setup
Did you ever rotate side to side?
No, seems useless. Inside groove is still the inside groove.
Does anyone know what is the ideal PSI on my model Y performance during the summer and winter please let me know.
I'm going with 42psi since the app and door jamb sticker say that for both, however we don't have winter in Los Angeles, even though we did have 3 snow days this year ;)
42 cold and check and adjust often
If I were you, I would change the tires, then do the alignment with the new ones. On my performance, I have 275 in the front and 295 on the back. Gives me more tire rubber, hence better road driving
The original tires are over stretched on the 21 inch rims
Exactly the setup I have and is so much better.
Good to consider, are the 295's Michelins?
@Tesla Tips & Trips yes. The one's that you have. My friend just received his performance and he moved the back to the front, sold the 255 and bought the 295's for the back and he said that he loves the ride quality. He went over a deep pothole here in Santa Clarita last week and suffered no tire damage because of the tire thickness. They're not stretched anymore
So you have 275’s on the stock front wheels? Hmmmm maybe I’ll do that and square them up at 275 when the fronts go. Thoughts?
@@TeslaTipsTrips 275's in the front and 295's in the back will definitely square up the look
I’m lucky to get 10-12k miles … how did you get to 30k ?
All Season Michelin’s perhaps?
I have the Perilli on a 2022 Model 3 Performance.
Yeah they should offer a choice at purchase.
@@TeslaTipsTrips If I had to do it over again I would favor the tires on a long range model 3 for a better ride, less expensive and more tire choices or options and less chance of curbing the tires and damaging the the tires and rims.
Carrying such a heavy beast of a car, not surprised EV car owners have to change tires twice as often.
Right, because Tahoes, Suburbans, giant lifted pick up trucks etc. are super light vehicles.
@@TeslaTipsTrips So your position is that the weight of a vehicle does not impact tire wear?
No, my position is, other cars are heavy also, not a Tesla or EV exclusive issue.
BMW x5 is heavier
Tesla's alignment tolerances are too large. They have the "that's good enough" attitude. Your first alignment should been done at 5k to 6.5K. You need to do a weighted/ballasted alignment. Then every year when you do your annual maintenance you check for alignment wear.
That's BMW wear pattern on the rears. This is why I won't have a staggered setup again on any car.
I hate the staggered tires with the larger tires in the rear.
Since most are not racing these cars. I agree. It’s a hassle. Although it offsets the cost of replacement at 2 per time.
Sell the car.
Nah
I don't recommend Tesla I am having a bad experience
Ok Mike.
worst car on the market. I am looking for someone to take over the lease @@TeslaTipsTrips
Same. There is no savings in having a Tesla.
What’s happening?
You will be disappointed because there is nothing better