Nobody takes the time and effort nor does anyone go into great depth and detail as you do while making these superb videos. Thanks for sharing. Your great professor!
@@LeoPeink and making them last longer and degrade slower. Number one things keeping me away from these electric cars is not wanting to have to charge on road trips forever, prolonging the already extremely boring road trip. Also the battery ages and will probably need replacing. If they didn't lose so much juice after only a few years they'd do better on resale ability. Also all these computers as they age are only spelling disaster for us as time goes on I think.
Great presentation. I attended Cerritos college electrical 1995 to 1999. I worked on battery conversions vw and saw t-zero. The t-zero used lap top battery today’s Tesla. I remember the direct power no delay. We also made go cart. Six battery and controller. We used it at golf and stuff cart track. The owner wanted 30. It was a fun time. Thanks again. Downey California
This 9.0363 gear ratio explains why the Model 3 can move forward so slowly and accurately. I was seriously impressed with the amount of control you have with the throttle pedal.
@@llavero5 Nah. Not at all. Even hydraulic automatics have a minimum creep speed below which you are fettling around with the brakes........not in electric.....
The engineering design and forward thinking that’s gone into these motors is very impressive: thanks for showing us what we will - hopefully - never see.
Thank you very much !!!! I knew that for high torque gearsets, gear tooth of meshing gears had to be relative prime, but now i know the exact term: Hunting gears.
Lack of interchangeability is a 'stock' nightmare, and this man knows it. In a pinch you can rob Peter to pay Paul and get home by cannibalizing's casualties to fix repairs. If it were human it would have interchangeable arms, legs, and attachments. This is a one size fits many approach. One size fits All, is the ideal. Many varieties/many parts is a nightmare that's hard to handle, and it won't be going to Mars. Same technology in use buenito35 - same man at the helm. Musk uses 'commonality of parts' in his equations.
Great video. I was a Mitsubishi/Hyundai tech for 28 years. Tesla vehicles are very interesting and wondered how the design was for the electric motors. I can't believe how small they are but yet so powerful. Great video. Thank you
Hello Mr. Kelly, I'm not a big fan of hybrid cars (well, except Formula 1) or electric cars yet but I am a HUGE fan of your videos. Your students are truly lucky to have you as their professor. You're helping to drive the future of automotive repair and diagnostics.
Thank you for an amazingly interesting in depth explanation of how things work inside there. The in-hand flippy magnet, the "hunting gear-set", the modularity of the motors... I just have to thank you now and I'm only 10 minutes into the show! :)
11:58 Professor Kelly and Sandy Munro would be a dream team! 😍 If I had 2 wishes, there would be 2 videos together. One at Munro and one at Professor Kelly. That would be superb! 🙏😁
This channel is fascinating, educational, and well-presented. The amount of visuals, demos, and detail of the breakdowns are second to none. Well done.
This is a great video for those that MUST understand what's going on under the hood. I'm hoping to do a retro-upgrade on a classic vehicle one day, as more and more of these used units hit the streets. This is truly motivating!
Well done and respect for the engineering design team! Lovely hi-tech modular moving parts. The lecture deliverance is as 'usual'! Of high standard. Many thanks professor.
The small block Chevy led the way to part interchangeable manufacturing! Same starter, same distributer, same transmission bolt pattern, for big block and small block Chevy,, all the cinder headed where interchangeable on small block engine and be brake manifolds. Was great for the aftermarket performance parts industry also.
Awesome! Another excellent video from Professor Kelly that I'll watch many, many times. You are an excellent communicator and a master explainer. I hope someday you'll do a Hyundai Kona Electric teardown like the Chevrolet Bolt one. Thanks Professor!
You're one cool professor, professor Kelly. I'm not a techie person but yet, I'm able to comprehend most of what you said in the video. It's definitely a fun learning experience by watching you. Thank you!
When I watch these videos I wonder what kind of work these electric cars will need when they are 20, 30 yrs old. Leaking coolant lines come to mind, but the complexity is so reduced it is another world. Of course the electronics can potentially be quite complex. Love the tech!
In terms of conductor diameter copper is a better conductor than aluminium. However weight for weight aluminium is better than copper which makes it more suitable for motor rotors.
I see light duty in aluminum applications electrically - and Heavy duty in copper electrically. Heavy duty in electrical terms is a trade off with carrying capacity. Heavy duty adds weight, and increases peak and operating performance. The optimum weight to horsepower/torque output is a matter of application that fits the job at hand. It varies according to requirements. The more noble the conductor - the higher you are in the electrical process. Being able to switch out conductors, and interchange them easily is electrical genius at work. The external oil pump is another tech. advance over internal. What I see is brilliance in design !
@@WeberAuto 5:10 I just figured out, that it should be called the opposite way. Hunting vs. non-hunting gear set: The "hunting gear" "hunts" ALL other teeth on the opposite gear, where as the "non-hunting" (="lazy" 😉) gear set touches each other always with the same teeth. As a German I'm not 100% sure, if my (english) understanding is correct. 🤔
Something that caught my eye right away was when you were doing the magnet demonstration holding one in your hand and on your wrist you had what looked like a watch. It is interesting if those magnets did not destroy the inner workings of that watch.
I wondered that same thing years ago, but it seems to no affect on the watch. It is in a stainless steel housing. Maybe it shields the electronics. Thanks for watching
@@WeberAuto Anti-magnetic watches are a thing and there's an ISO standard too! Practically speaking, it's just another spec that wristwatch aficionados like to preen about :) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antimagnetic_watch
ingineerx has said that initially the rear performence drive units were identical but binned so the better ones were installed on the performance. Now the non performance versions have only 5 SiC transistors per phase instead of 6 saving production costs. He has a great UA-cam channel.
Do you know if the inverter units are can bus VIN locked? Seems like a nice and serviceable assembly. Plus as always we are looking for features which make swapping drive units easier into other platforms
Thanks for the analysis and clear presentation. I had no idea how well thought out the drive systems are on my Model Y. I don't think you can achieve this kind of efficient design by buying parts from 3rd parties.
Thank you for the great video, as always. I'm getting more and more interested in a hands-on experience with EV technology. Looks like I'll need to plan a trip to Utah at some point.
Funny.. experts from every walk of life always find something in a Tesla that surprises and makes em laugh, i.e. same exact parts for front and rear drives
Incredible stuff, how does the modularity of these motors compare to that of the other EVs out there like the ID4 or the Mach-e? Do they have modular components like this at all?
These technologies usually start with a number of entries. The best of them survive and improve. The rest become casualties of the better or worse equation, and the fittest survive. It's been that way since technology arrived.
I have not seen any other modular motors yet. The Mach-e has two different motors from two different manufacturers. Borg-warner in the rear and GKN in the front. Thanks for watching
@@charlesball6519 Actually, both "motor" and "engine" are technically correct for an electric motor, and both are technically correct for an internal combustion engine. Normal usage for an electric motor is only "motor", and for an internal combustion engine is usually (but far from always) "engine". Don't believe me? Just check dictionary definitions...
This is a fantastic video; thank you very much! I must confess I didn't know that Teslas needed coolant; I guess that shows how little I know about electric vehicles!
Thank you Professor for taking the time to detail the basics of the drive units. What oil/filter change interval would you recommend on these (if any)? I have the performance version M3 and have yet to “track” the vehicle but plan to someday. When in track mode, the display screen is pretty cool as it provides an interesting visual heat map of the of the battery and the drive units and will log various performance metrics to the end user’s thumb drive, cool stuff! This video was definitely NOT a waste of my time, thanks again!
Thank you Scott! Tesla has no recommended fluid change interval and they do not offer the ATF-9 fluid for sale either. I have tried to find a source for it and cannot. it appears to be a high quality full synthetic PAO based fluid. In a sealed housing, it should last a very long time. But of course anything that causes it to run hotter than normal will shorten its lifespan. I suspect it will last 150k miles like any good quality OEM ATF. Thanks for watching
Less complicated than ICE less parts = they will last longer ad will be cheaper to replace. the only thing for the moment is that ice car still have the volume discount so parts seams cheaper but once EV are wide spread it will be at less 3 times cheaper for everything
The gears and bearings of manual transmissions normally outlast the car, and that's what you see in this transmission - as long as the oil supply works, they'll last until the car is scrapped because of collision damage or other problems. The motor components are even more reliable than the gears. The most likely parts to fail are the oil pump and the inverter.
That's 'Compact E-Motor Technology' - It can be expanded, or compressed to suit application. Micro-electric - all the way to Macro. When you get to Hi-voltage 3 phase powered electric motors you're usually in factories with heavy duty applications. This tech is capable of putting 19,000 rpms to work at the wheels at 9.3 to one using 3 phase technology - to every wheel, propeller, or drive train, in a compact design at lower than conventional weight. That means - lawn mowers, outboards, jet ski's, cars -trucks - and arrow planes with high speed props, super serious motorcycles, flying cars - you name it ! The battery is the nut-never-cracked before, and it's revolutionary in designs at the moment. Musk is becoming the big dog, and he's way ahead in the race.
Motor size depends mostly on the torque which is needs to produce. Rotating shaft power is torque multiplied by speed, so if a motor can run faster it can be smaller for the same power (less torque but higher speed to get the same power). Compared to other EVs, this is a relatively fast-turning motor.
@@LoanwordEggcorn indeed. They are either machined then inserted in the rotor block or directly injected by molten metal into the block. Copper injection gives lots of imperfections because of its shrinkage so having good quality product requires a very intricate process. Thus the high cost and high investment. Usually the choice of induction motors is done to avoid relying on chinese magnet raw material.
@@Aaaaaaaaaaaaaamin Permanent magnet motors can definitely be more efficient, especially Tesla's unusual permanent magnet reluctance design, but induction motors use much simpler resources. Induction motors are mostly Copper or Aluminum and some steel, some insulation, etc. Permanent magnets use significant rare earth elements.
As an auto tech since 1982, I have seen a lot of change, but this technology is far superior in terms of performance and reliability. I still hear a lot of grumbling about electric not being better from many people, but in my opinion the only thing better about piston engines is the “cool” noises they make. Within the next few decades, piston engines will be only for museums and displays.
i doubt it but we will see, you must be close to retirement i’m fresh into this industry 10 years in so its a bit worry some that the repair industry may die off 😬
@@Mark_conor Industries come and go. That's part of capitalism. That's why learning and training throughout life is important. No doubt that the affects of the automobile on the horse based transportation industries were huge.
Another thing better about piston engines is the fact they can keep running when parts fail. If anything fails in this electric system, you're dead in the water. It also won't be cheap to repair, and definitely not easy (probably impossible) for the DIY'er to diagnose. Imagine the hv battery in your model s takes a shit, and the repair bill is more than a brand new Corolla. We got a LONG way to go before the ICE is a "museum piece".
@@GrandPrix46 DIYers are fuck 😂 just inspected a Tesla that that had a leaking oil pump. customer had no idea i think repair shops will definitely get cleaner over time.
@@GrandPrix46 have you seen the prices for repairs on modern cars? These batteries have been around for years and it’s very rare to see them just take a shit. It’s just like the wear on an engine, they lose some performance but keep running. I work on mostly transmissions, drivetrain. The transmission in a hybrid, or electric vehicle is so much simpler than in an ice application. Not nearly as many things to fail. As far as diagnosis, there’s just as much on an ice as an electric that the average person cannot really do. There’s just as much electronics and far more parts to fail.
It would be good to hear from a motor expert why this might be the case but I'll take a stab at it: - table saw motor is air-cooled (not oil/coolant cooled) so it has to be larger per unit power to remain cooler (air cooling isn't as good) - three-phase motors will be more power dense than single-phase motors - designing power-dense motors is expensive, and your table saw doesn't have density requirements, so it was cheaper to make it larger
@@dtemp132 the main reason is a table saw motor would blow apart long before it reached 19,000 rpm. Even three-phase industrial motors are gigantic compared to Tesla motors for the same power output, because they usually spin at 1,800 rpm or slower.
I watched 2 videos about Tesla engines and they looked like clowns... and when I watched your video I enjoyed a lot and benefited from more information. Thank you very much. I wish you success in your work and your private life. I hired an electrical engineer and I will be thankful to you again..Greetings to your great person
So no spark plugs that need changing, no head gasket to blow, no leaks from the valve cover gasket, no alternator to go out, no starter that’s worn out, no valves that need adjusting, no transmission that needs rebuilding, no carbon build up, no oil change to worry about, AND NO GAS?????????????? SIGN ME UP TESLA!!!!!!!!!
Good luck going down to your local auto parts store and getting a replacement part for your Tesla and fixing it in an afternoon for $150, though. In fact, good luck getting a replacement part PERIOD, even from Tesla itself. Engineering Explained couldn't even get a set of wheels for his, lmao. I like electric cars as much as anybody, bought 2 Volts less than a year ago, but let's not act like there aren't any downsides to them.
Your blind ignorance is what's going to be a big problem for ya buddy. Yeah it's more simple in some ways but they're more complex than ever in others bro so you're not exactly buying some easy to own cheap to take care of machine. Even new gas cars don't cost much to own the first several years. It's once you need to start replacing seals or batteries, sensors and computers where you'll realised youve still fucked yourself financially
What a great time to be alive in this new electric age...electric motors today only at the beginning that dwarfs gas cars at this early stage...my god what lies ahead
i mean in a sense the motors are not new, and i believe may have peaked already. Battery tech is what really will change in the future all they can do is just find ways to squeeze more than two motors on one car to make em faster. just my opinion.
@@alanmay7929 Electric cars dwarf gas cars in terms of performance. Your needing to drive in the outback somewhere obviously isn't most consumers needs. Keep your irrelevant gas junk as long as you want LOL
Sir, thank you for submitting this. Utterly brilliant. I collected my MY two days ago. I’m shocked. It’s not just the acceleration. I love the sound system and the cars ride/refinement. It’s worth every dollar. A compelling car.
This is the professor which every student only dreamed off. Big respect to you
Can you please add some knowledge about Rivin motors
Poop fart!
Nobody takes the time and effort nor does anyone go into great depth and detail as you do while making these superb videos. Thanks for sharing. Your great professor!
I appreciate that! Thanks for watching
That's because most of the other folks don't understand the mechanical workings of these electric vehicles like the professor (other than Munro).
I could not agree more!
Superintteresting and smart!
Greetings from Sweden (the home country of SKF).
of course other car manufacturer does :D To make there cars better in the future. They could learn a lot from tesla.
I love it so so much! He feeds my curiosity
top quality demonstration of the magnet flipping in both directions .
Agreed. That was neat.
Like going to a science fair, for me. I think it's great !
Thank you very much!
All right. All because of you, I'm quitting my job and taking a degree in mechanical engineering. Thanks a lot.
Lol. Best wishes
2 years later and this is still FASCINATING! Thank you so much for making this video.
Same here! I share the same excitement as the professor.
It’s amazing how much simpler the drivetrains rotating assembly is compared to ICE.
Agreed! Thanks for watching
That's why EVs need low mantainance. The real engineering problem, however, is batteries' energy density
Depends on your definition, but sure
@@LeoPeink and making them last longer and degrade slower. Number one things keeping me away from these electric cars is not wanting to have to charge on road trips forever, prolonging the already extremely boring road trip. Also the battery ages and will probably need replacing. If they didn't lose so much juice after only a few years they'd do better on resale ability. Also all these computers as they age are only spelling disaster for us as time goes on I think.
🔴🔴🔴🔴🔴 CONGRATULATIONS !!! Tesla has obtained FSD LEVEL 2 Status . It took them only 10 years. They are on a roll!
Thanks for the excellent content in this age of hollowed out SM
Glad you enjoy it!
Great presentation. I attended Cerritos college electrical 1995 to 1999. I worked on battery conversions vw and saw t-zero. The t-zero used lap top battery today’s Tesla. I remember the direct power no delay. We also made go cart. Six battery and controller. We used it at golf and stuff cart track. The owner wanted 30. It was a fun time. Thanks again. Downey California
Cool stuff! Thanks for watching
It's hard to find a better video about Tesla motors with so much details and perfect explanation.
Thank you so much Professor John D. Kelly! 😊
Excellent detail and breakdown. This is high quality trade school teaching. Not a theoretical university professor. The professor labelling jars me.
This 9.0363 gear ratio explains why the Model 3 can move forward so slowly and accurately. I was seriously impressed with the amount of control you have with the throttle pedal.
like any other existing car
@@llavero5 Nah. Not at all. Even hydraulic automatics have a minimum creep speed below which you are fettling around with the brakes........not in electric.....
@@Zonkotron but with a low enough of a reduction.
Anything can feel that way.
When the professor quotes a Munro video, that's really apotheosis!
Thanks for complementing the information which I've learned through Sandy's videos.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching
Thanks!Love your videos. Saves me taking my car apart. My wife is grateful! 😀
Thank you Michael!
The engineering design and forward thinking that’s gone into these motors is very impressive: thanks for showing us what we will - hopefully - never see.
Thank you very much!
Knew nothing about electirc powertrain and learned quite a bit, just in this informative video. Very impressive and thank you.
This is my first time on your channel and I can assure you that I was amazed by the quality of your work. Thank you for sharing knowledge.
Thank you very much
Thank you very much !!!!
I knew that for high torque gearsets, gear tooth of meshing gears had to be relative prime, but now i know the exact term: Hunting gears.
Great to see how happy the modular design makes him. he gets giddy, you can see it on his face. Love it!!
Lack of interchangeability is a 'stock' nightmare, and this man knows it. In a pinch you can rob Peter to pay Paul and get home by cannibalizing's casualties to fix repairs. If it were human it would have interchangeable arms, legs, and attachments. This is a one size fits many approach. One size fits All, is the ideal. Many varieties/many parts is a nightmare that's hard to handle, and it won't be going to Mars. Same technology in use buenito35 - same man at the helm. Musk uses 'commonality of parts' in his equations.
Thanks for watching
Great video. I was a Mitsubishi/Hyundai tech for 28 years. Tesla vehicles are very interesting and wondered how the design was for the electric motors. I can't believe how small they are but yet so powerful.
Great video. Thank you
Thank you very much
Hello Mr. Kelly,
I'm not a big fan of hybrid cars (well, except Formula 1) or electric cars yet but I am a HUGE fan of your videos. Your students are truly lucky to have you as their professor. You're helping to drive the future of automotive repair and diagnostics.
Thank you very much
Dave.. have you drove a Tesla ?
Thank you for an amazingly interesting in depth explanation of how things work inside there. The in-hand flippy magnet, the "hunting gear-set", the modularity of the motors... I just have to thank you now and I'm only 10 minutes into the show! :)
I am happy you liked it. Thanks for watching
11:58 Professor Kelly and Sandy Munro would be a dream team! 😍
If I had 2 wishes, there would be 2 videos together. One at Munro and one at Professor Kelly. That would be superb! 🙏😁
Thank you very much
This channel is fascinating, educational, and well-presented. The amount of visuals, demos, and detail of the breakdowns are second to none.
Well done.
Great knowledge, explained well, glad I stumbled upon this video and your channel.
Thank you very much Lee!
7:15 Professor has the magic is his hands!
And a unique "hands on" (double meaning 😉) mentality for teaching.👌
Excellent video again! 👍👍
Thank you so much 😀
07:18 making the magnet flip in your hand. Awesome demonstration.
It is not only useful but a sheer joy to watch these videos, so Thank You very much!
Thank you very much!
Stumbled across your work after I bought a Honda Insight, way back. Glad I did! Another superb, informative and entertaining video, thank you.
Thank you very much
This is a great video for those that MUST understand what's going on under the hood. I'm hoping to do a retro-upgrade on a classic vehicle one day, as more and more of these used units hit the streets. This is truly motivating!
I’ve toyed with that idea myself…. A Tesla powered ‘57 Chevy!
Well done and respect for the engineering design team! Lovely hi-tech modular moving parts.
The lecture deliverance is as 'usual'! Of high standard. Many thanks professor.
Thank you, professor. I did enjoy this video!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for your support over the years.
A professor who has passion for the subject is a joy to watch. Thank you professor !
Professore, welcome back!
Always exciting to see your uploads 👍🏻
Thank you very much
You are an absolute treasure and I appreciate your time and expertise.
Wow, thank you!
Thanks!
Thank you very much!
The small block Chevy led the way to part interchangeable manufacturing! Same starter, same distributer, same transmission bolt pattern, for big block and small block Chevy,, all the cinder headed where interchangeable on small block engine and be brake manifolds. Was great for the aftermarket performance parts industry also.
True! Thanks for watching
Awesome. I watched your video on the Prius Prime 4 years ago when I bought that car. Now I watch your video on the Model 3 which I recently bought!
Awesome, Thanks for watching
Awesome! Another excellent video from Professor Kelly that I'll watch many, many times.
You are an excellent communicator and a master explainer.
I hope someday you'll do a Hyundai Kona Electric teardown like the Chevrolet Bolt one.
Thanks Professor!
Thanks for the suggestion!
You're one cool professor, professor Kelly. I'm not a techie person but yet, I'm able to comprehend most of what you said in the video. It's definitely a fun learning experience by watching you. Thank you!
Can’t wait to watch!!
Thank you
Outstanding! Didactic, simple, straightforward, one mouthful at a time. Deserves supporting.
When I watch these videos I wonder what kind of work these electric cars will need when they are 20, 30 yrs old. Leaking coolant lines come to mind, but the complexity is so reduced it is another world. Of course the electronics can potentially be quite complex. Love the tech!
Thanks for watching
Grazie.
Thank you very much!
In terms of conductor diameter copper is a better conductor than aluminium. However weight for weight aluminium is better than copper which makes it more suitable for motor rotors.
I see light duty in aluminum applications electrically - and Heavy duty in copper electrically. Heavy duty in electrical terms is a trade off with carrying capacity.
Heavy duty adds weight, and increases peak and operating performance. The optimum weight to horsepower/torque output is a matter of application that fits the job at hand. It varies according to requirements. The more noble the conductor - the higher you are in the electrical process. Being able to switch out conductors, and interchange them easily is electrical genius at work. The external oil pump is another tech. advance over internal. What I see is brilliance in design !
Thanks for the information!
Danke!
Thank you Ste! I am very appreciative of your support
@@WeberAuto 5:10 I just figured out, that it should be called the opposite way. Hunting vs. non-hunting gear set: The "hunting gear" "hunts" ALL other teeth on the opposite gear, where as the "non-hunting" (="lazy" 😉) gear set touches each other always with the same teeth. As a German I'm not 100% sure, if my (english) understanding is correct. 🤔
Strong performance, both from Tesla Design and Professor Kelly (later one as always)!
Thank you very much!
one of the very best illustrations.
Something that caught my eye right away was when you were doing the magnet demonstration holding one in your hand and on your wrist you had what looked like a watch. It is interesting if those magnets did not destroy the inner workings of that watch.
I wondered that same thing years ago, but it seems to no affect on the watch. It is in a stainless steel housing. Maybe it shields the electronics. Thanks for watching
@@WeberAuto Anti-magnetic watches are a thing and there's an ISO standard too! Practically speaking, it's just another spec that wristwatch aficionados like to preen about :)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antimagnetic_watch
@@dtemp132 Wow, I had no idea. Thanks
Looks like an Apple Watch, they should be able to handle a magnetic field just fine,
Such a wonderful channel and a great teacher. When the student is ready the teacher will appear. 😊
Thank you! 😃
ingineerx has said that initially the rear performence drive units were identical but binned so the better ones were installed on the performance. Now the non performance versions have only 5 SiC transistors per phase instead of 6 saving production costs. He has a great UA-cam channel.
Great information, thanks for sharing
The binning term was used by Tesla. Just marketing hyperbole at the time.
you have made complex mechanism appear so simple. Thank you Sir.
Thanks for watching
Do you know if the inverter units are can bus VIN locked?
Seems like a nice and serviceable assembly. Plus as always we are looking for features which make swapping drive units easier into other platforms
I do not know. I do know there is a guy in Canada that reprograms them for custom cars. ingenext.ca/ Thanks for watching
Big thank you - I’ve watched hundreds of UA-cam videos but this one gives you everything you need and more 👍
Great to hear! Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the analysis and clear presentation. I had no idea how well thought out the drive systems are on my Model Y. I don't think you can achieve this kind of efficient design by buying parts from 3rd parties.
Thanks for the excellent explanation of model 3 power units
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching
Good video! Happy Independence Day professor. You and Sandy should have a collaborative interview if possible.
Thank you, Happy independence day to you too.
Thanks, prof. you answered some of my mystery questions about the tesla system. Viva!
Glad to hear it!
Thank you for the great video, as always. I'm getting more and more interested in a hands-on experience with EV technology. Looks like I'll need to plan a trip to Utah at some point.
Thank you, good to hear! Thanks for watching
Thanks
Thank you very much! I appreciate that.
Very interesting!
It’s helpful not to have any background music torture my brain!
Thank you
I just wanted to thank you for this presentation. So much good information.
Funny.. experts from every walk of life always find something in a Tesla that surprises and makes em laugh, i.e. same exact parts for front and rear drives
LOL, it was surprising because I have never seen that before in my 30 years of teaching
Incredible stuff, how does the modularity of these motors compare to that of the other EVs out there like the ID4 or the Mach-e? Do they have modular components like this at all?
Motor, not engine.
These technologies usually start with a number of entries. The best of them survive and improve. The rest become casualties of the better or worse equation, and the fittest survive. It's been that way since technology arrived.
@@charlesball6519 Correct sir. No combustion. This tech doesn't need atmosphere to work.
I have not seen any other modular motors yet. The Mach-e has two different motors from two different manufacturers. Borg-warner in the rear and GKN in the front. Thanks for watching
@@charlesball6519 Actually, both "motor" and "engine" are technically correct for an electric motor, and both are technically correct for an internal combustion engine. Normal usage for an electric motor is only "motor", and for an internal combustion engine is usually (but far from always) "engine". Don't believe me? Just check dictionary definitions...
Great video!!! Thanks for taking the time to make it!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Metal nearby and in contact with the PMM would tend to become magnetized wouldn't it?
Yes it would. Thanks for watching
Only if it is able to get magnetized, like iron. Aluminum, copper etc. does not.
This is a fantastic video; thank you very much! I must confess I didn't know that Teslas needed coolant; I guess that shows how little I know about electric vehicles!
Thank you Professor for taking the time to detail the basics of the drive units. What oil/filter change interval would you recommend on these (if any)? I have the performance version M3 and have yet to “track” the vehicle but plan to someday. When in track mode, the display screen is pretty cool as it provides an interesting visual heat map of the of the battery and the drive units and will log various performance metrics to the end user’s thumb drive, cool stuff! This video was definitely NOT a waste of my time, thanks again!
Thank you Scott! Tesla has no recommended fluid change interval and they do not offer the ATF-9 fluid for sale either. I have tried to find a source for it and cannot. it appears to be a high quality full synthetic PAO based fluid. In a sealed housing, it should last a very long time. But of course anything that causes it to run hotter than normal will shorten its lifespan. I suspect it will last 150k miles like any good quality OEM ATF. Thanks for watching
@@WeberAuto Thanks for the intel John, much appreciated and I hope you and your family have a wonderful 4th!
excellent breakdown
Glad you liked it!
Will they last high mileage, and what will wear out also will they be expensive to repair in the future, cheers
Less complicated than ICE less parts = they will last longer ad will be cheaper to replace. the only thing for the moment is that ice car still have the volume discount so parts seams cheaper but once EV are wide spread it will be at less 3 times cheaper for everything
They are designed for a million miles. Thanks for watching,
The gears and bearings of manual transmissions normally outlast the car, and that's what you see in this transmission - as long as the oil supply works, they'll last until the car is scrapped because of collision damage or other problems. The motor components are even more reliable than the gears. The most likely parts to fail are the oil pump and the inverter.
What a beautiful setup of differential
Imagine what a miracle the combustion engine was and how to teach this to someone who worked with horses.
True! Thanks for watching
Having gotten to drive a Tesla Model Y and see how the motors are made and operate put it all together. Appreciate the in depth explanation.
The motors are smaller than I thought they would be
Same
That's 'Compact E-Motor Technology' - It can be expanded, or compressed to suit application. Micro-electric - all the way to Macro. When you get to Hi-voltage 3 phase powered electric motors you're usually in factories with heavy duty applications. This tech is capable of putting 19,000 rpms to work at the wheels at 9.3 to one using 3 phase technology - to every wheel, propeller, or drive train, in a compact design at lower than conventional weight.
That means - lawn mowers, outboards, jet ski's, cars -trucks - and arrow planes with high speed props, super serious motorcycles, flying cars - you name it !
The battery is the nut-never-cracked before, and it's revolutionary in designs at the moment. Musk is becoming the big dog, and he's way ahead in the race.
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Motor size depends mostly on the torque which is needs to produce. Rotating shaft power is torque multiplied by speed, so if a motor can run faster it can be smaller for the same power (less torque but higher speed to get the same power). Compared to other EVs, this is a relatively fast-turning motor.
This is awesome, thanks for sharing. Helps understand the front and rear drive motors.
So cool! Thanks.
(I have a 3. Never seen any of this. Now I know!)
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Great way of breaking it down on detail.. thank you
Aluminum filled rotors are less efficient but less expensive and easier to make.
Should be much easier to make. Copper is very difficult to machine compared to Aluminum.
@@LoanwordEggcorn indeed. They are either machined then inserted in the rotor block or directly injected by molten metal into the block. Copper injection gives lots of imperfections because of its shrinkage so having good quality product requires a very intricate process. Thus the high cost and high investment. Usually the choice of induction motors is done to avoid relying on chinese magnet raw material.
@@Aaaaaaaaaaaaaamin Permanent magnet motors can definitely be more efficient, especially Tesla's unusual permanent magnet reluctance design, but induction motors use much simpler resources. Induction motors are mostly Copper or Aluminum and some steel, some insulation, etc. Permanent magnets use significant rare earth elements.
@@CW-xh8uw Yes, both can be efficient in different ways.
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What a great teacher. I would go back to school just to be in his class!!! And I'm in my 50's
As an auto tech since 1982, I have seen a lot of change, but this technology is far superior in terms of performance and reliability. I still hear a lot of grumbling about electric not being better from many people, but in my opinion the only thing better about piston engines is the “cool” noises they make. Within the next few decades, piston engines will be only for museums and displays.
i doubt it but we will see, you must be close to retirement i’m fresh into this industry 10 years in so its a bit worry some that the repair industry may die off 😬
@@Mark_conor Industries come and go. That's part of capitalism. That's why learning and training throughout life is important.
No doubt that the affects of the automobile on the horse based transportation industries were huge.
Another thing better about piston engines is the fact they can keep running when parts fail. If anything fails in this electric system, you're dead in the water. It also won't be cheap to repair, and definitely not easy (probably impossible) for the DIY'er to diagnose.
Imagine the hv battery in your model s takes a shit, and the repair bill is more than a brand new Corolla. We got a LONG way to go before the ICE is a "museum piece".
@@GrandPrix46 DIYers are fuck 😂 just inspected a Tesla that that had a leaking oil pump. customer had no idea i think repair shops will definitely get cleaner over time.
@@GrandPrix46 have you seen the prices for repairs on modern cars? These batteries have been around for years and it’s very rare to see them just take a shit. It’s just like the wear on an engine, they lose some performance but keep running. I work on mostly transmissions, drivetrain. The transmission in a hybrid, or electric vehicle is so much simpler than in an ice application. Not nearly as many things to fail. As far as diagnosis, there’s just as much on an ice as an electric that the average person cannot really do. There’s just as much electronics and far more parts to fail.
Thank you for sharing this content about the modular components and design of the electric motors. Thank you again about your details.
Same this, same that. . . just ONE of the reasons I’m invested in Tesla
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Thank you for your passion to educate for free.
Thank you very much
Those motors are physically not much larger than my table saw motor...!
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It would be good to hear from a motor expert why this might be the case but I'll take a stab at it:
- table saw motor is air-cooled (not oil/coolant cooled) so it has to be larger per unit power to remain cooler (air cooling isn't as good)
- three-phase motors will be more power dense than single-phase motors
- designing power-dense motors is expensive, and your table saw doesn't have density requirements, so it was cheaper to make it larger
@@dtemp132 the main reason is a table saw motor would blow apart long before it reached 19,000 rpm. Even three-phase industrial motors are gigantic compared to Tesla motors for the same power output, because they usually spin at 1,800 rpm or slower.
I watched 2 videos about Tesla engines and they looked like clowns... and when I watched your video I enjoyed a lot and benefited from more information. Thank you very much. I wish you success in your work and your private life. I hired an electrical engineer and I will be thankful to you again..Greetings to your great person
No such thing as a Tesla engine
He said "Oil Filter" and I realize that I had completely forgot he was talking about a car.
Especially after seeing a circuit board lol.
External oil filter, pump, and heat exchanger - nice !
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I love the tech, great explanation. I do get distracted by watching the handsome guy and dreaming away. Great content Professor Kelly.
Thank you very much!
So no spark plugs that need changing, no head gasket to blow, no leaks from the valve cover gasket, no alternator to go out, no starter that’s worn out, no valves that need adjusting, no transmission that needs rebuilding, no carbon build up, no oil change to worry about, AND NO GAS?????????????? SIGN ME UP TESLA!!!!!!!!!
Good luck going down to your local auto parts store and getting a replacement part for your Tesla and fixing it in an afternoon for $150, though. In fact, good luck getting a replacement part PERIOD, even from Tesla itself. Engineering Explained couldn't even get a set of wheels for his, lmao.
I like electric cars as much as anybody, bought 2 Volts less than a year ago, but let's not act like there aren't any downsides to them.
@@GrandPrix46 a problem that solves itself with time and adoption. Also the volt is a hybrid if I’m not mistaken.
@@Mabeylater293 We'll find out eventually, I suppose. A Prius is a hybrid, a Volt is an extended range electric vehicle.
@@GrandPrix46 according to this video, the Volt is a hybrid
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Your blind ignorance is what's going to be a big problem for ya buddy. Yeah it's more simple in some ways but they're more complex than ever in others bro so you're not exactly buying some easy to own cheap to take care of machine. Even new gas cars don't cost much to own the first several years. It's once you need to start replacing seals or batteries, sensors and computers where you'll realised youve still fucked yourself financially
What a great time to be alive in this new electric age...electric motors today only at the beginning that dwarfs gas cars at this early stage...my god what lies ahead
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i mean in a sense the motors are not new, and i believe may have peaked already. Battery tech is what really will change in the future all they can do is just find ways to squeeze more than two motors on one car to make em faster. just my opinion.
@@Mark_conor and rare earths are still used in those electric motors, but vw doesn't use rare earths on their motors fortunately.
Dwarf gas cars?! Uhm nope, my toyota hilux still has 1000 miles of range and I can just buy spare fuel to go overlanding wherever I want no stress.
@@alanmay7929 Electric cars dwarf gas cars in terms of performance. Your needing to drive in the outback somewhere obviously isn't most consumers needs. Keep your irrelevant gas junk as long as you want LOL
Luv the Prime Numbers! So many applications!
Amazing. Thanks for the whole demo about modularity. A real treat.
Indian education system need a expert like you, in an educational university to teach..Really awsome.
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Sir, thank you for submitting this. Utterly brilliant.
I collected my MY two days ago. I’m shocked. It’s not just the acceleration. I love the sound system and the cars ride/refinement. It’s worth every dollar. A compelling car.
👏🏽 👏🏽 thanks for letting us see this working gears so closely.
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Recently found your channel and I really appreciate you sharing with everyone!
You are so welcome!
Thanks for the Video John after a long time but as always knowledgeable. Waiting for Next 1.
Thanks for being a long time supporter!
Fascinating. Thanks for this. Our ME is the best car we've ever owned
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This guy is awesome, very articulate, explains everything very clearly. Really enjoyed and learned quite a bit!
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First time watching a great car youtuber like you, definetly not my last time. And you're already my favorite youtuber! Thanks for such a great video
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Thank you sir. I feel more educated and am impressed with how much of the overall system is composed of common components.
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Thanks prof. You always make understanding the electric drivetrain an easy task
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