The Dutch Burghers of Ceylon; an exquisite past | Lost & Forgotten

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  • @michaelrockstar8281
    @michaelrockstar8281 3 роки тому +74

    I am a Burgher myself, but I wasn't aware of half the information, our Dr Zameer Careem (whose mum is a Dutch Burgher) shared. Mindboggling memory, and eloquence. Such fluency, my Goodness. He is passionate about history just like Dr Spittel, Dr R.L. Brohier, Prof Blaze and many other Burgher physician-historians. I am sure that no other historian in SL could have pulled off this episode with such aptitude other than Dr Careem. His knowledge and expertise on the subject of minorities, is extraordinary, truly a walking, talking encyclopedia. May the blessings of God always be with him.

    • @richardebell5682
      @richardebell5682 3 роки тому +6

      Yes, Dr Careem has provided outstanding commentaries on the several segments of Lost & Forgotten I've watched. His breadth and depth of knowledge are quite amazing. Kudos also to the young presenter of this series, who has proved an excellent foil. To you both I say 👏👏👏 great work!

    • @dravidamonkey4253
      @dravidamonkey4253 2 роки тому +1

      God bless you Half-Breed

    • @nst3347
      @nst3347 2 роки тому +8

      @@dravidamonkey4253 your comment is racist, offensive and insensitive

    • @SubscribeTodayForMore
      @SubscribeTodayForMore 2 роки тому +2

      @@dravidamonkey4253 You do know and realize dearest Dravida, that there is feasibly, technically and factually NO SUCH THING as a "full breed" among any of us, don't you?
      In fact today, scientists consider such biological essentialism obsolete and modern genetic science rejects the concept of the social construct, based on the understanding that even "mixed" races are full breed of themselves, as a composite.
      All of the races are equal, no matter how diverse the gene pool is, or where their heritage lies. However behaviour and respectfulness is not and therein is the temptation to use the derogatory word "half breed".
      There is no such thing as a "half breed" among any of our beloved ethnicities, communities and races. We are a beautiful blend, a plural society rich is diversity.
      There is, however, unfortunately such a thing as a "half-breed" comment.
      If the cap fits...... 😉

    • @BogalaSawundiris
      @BogalaSawundiris Рік тому

      @@nst3347 Burghers have caused more racism in Sri Lanka

  • @angelwings5136
    @angelwings5136 3 роки тому +20

    I am burgher myself and my surname is Brohier.... Omg... I am speechless for all this information.... I Never Ever Dreamed that a day like this will come for the lost and forgotten... A very Big Thank You... To News 1st.🎩..and to Dr Zameer Careem a grate Historian and for keeping the Burgher community a live.. Appreciate for all the hard work you have put in to All of this finding our true self..which No one else taught of... Woww This was a spectacular interview👋👋👋....Thank you again... With Love And Gratitude.. Blessings Love And Light 🙏❤️😇....

  • @ainsleybastiaensz1865
    @ainsleybastiaensz1865 Рік тому +8

    I am a Dutch Burgher, residing now in the UK. My cousin is in Australia and had traced our family tree to the 17th century . Dr Careem's insight into the lost and forgotten communities is truly remarkable.
    He would have been Knighted if he was in the UK. Keep up the good work Doctor.

  • @rohanweerasinghe6614
    @rohanweerasinghe6614 6 місяців тому +3

    My mother is Dutch Burgher. Quite impressed with Dr. Zameer Careem’s knowledge, hats off to him. The Dutch Burgher Union kept meticulous records of the different families, I can trace my mother’s ancestors all the way to the time period they lived in Holland.

  • @tonysoyza3296
    @tonysoyza3296 3 роки тому +29

    Dr Zameer must be a valuable asset for Sri Lanka with so much of knowledge of Sri Lankan history. He must be recognised by the Sri Lankan government given a good award. The Sri Lankan government must ensure that more people acquire his valuable historical knowledge & also passed to future generations. I'm very impressed with with Dr. Zameer. This is a very interesting knowledgeable program. I'm watching this from Malaysia.

    • @timetoreason7090
      @timetoreason7090 Рік тому

      They do not care. They only care for their pockets, riding on nationalism and ego.

  • @tharanganikarunaratne872
    @tharanganikarunaratne872 3 роки тому +12

    This programme is highly palatable & I'm getting addicted to this day by day. Dr. Careem has got fascinating storytelling skills. This is one the best educational programs highly recommended for school children as well.

  • @johnbalachandra1612
    @johnbalachandra1612 2 роки тому +11

    Some of the comments were rude and childish. Dr. Careem is brilliant and eloquent and Sri Lanka should be proud to have this gentleman educating us all of our mixed heritage. I am a Professor of Electrical Engieering in California for 38 years, a Christian and a Tamil. A hindu convert. I did a DNA test and found out that not only do I have Tamil heritage but also Sinhala, Portuguese,Jewish, Islamic and British as well. In fact of the 360 , "eighth cousins" mentioned by name , 102 were of British origin!
    We are all of mixed heritage , being an island nation. I enjoy Dr. Careem's discussions on the minority communities of Sri Lanka. He is a treasure indeed. God bless you Sir, with prosperity and peace.
    Prof. John C. Balachandra BSc, MSc, Dr. Engineering, .....and anOld Thomian, as well...Esto Perpetua!

    • @timetoreason7090
      @timetoreason7090 Рік тому +2

      I concur. But Sri Lanka is a very difference place since the independence. You are more than an engineer. But the nationalist will never ever take your stand. I am one from the majority, who left for my sanity, long time ago. Even though I do not know a word of Tamil I grew up with Catholics, Burghers, Tamils and Muslims in Colombo. they opened a new world for me, *humanity* I feel sorry for the people I left behind. As you have read comments, they know how to twist words/terms for their own benefit. I still go to the same Jaffna Tamil Spice shop to buy my spices, no other, through out the war, yes I met few oddities during the war, but the owner shied them away. As an outsider to Tamil civilization if I say what I know I would sent to gallows calling me a separatist. Thank you sir for your wisdom!

  • @ed209nl
    @ed209nl 2 роки тому +5

    I'm very impressed by Dr. Careem's detailed knowledge, and the fact that he manages to string everything together in one fluent story without any aid. It's like he lived through these hundreds of years of history himself! Greetings to all my distant, distant relatives in Sri Lanka from the Netherlands!

  • @unclestuka8543
    @unclestuka8543 3 роки тому +18

    Great people, the Burghers

    • @dravidamonkey4253
      @dravidamonkey4253 2 роки тому +1

      Proud HALF BREEDS = Burghers

    • @unclestuka8543
      @unclestuka8543 2 роки тому +6

      @@dravidamonkey4253 Just proud people if you don't mind.

    • @dravidamonkey4253
      @dravidamonkey4253 2 роки тому

      @@unclestuka8543 Proud HALF BREEDS born from lowest caste local fisherwoman females who even the locals wouldn't touch = Burghers

    • @jacobkuntflapp
      @jacobkuntflapp 2 роки тому +1

      @@dravidamonkey4253 calm down, princess.

    • @angelwings5136
      @angelwings5136 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@dravidamonkey4253 ..I Am Not A Half Breed ..I Am A Pure Colonial....

  • @anandamarkalanda1878
    @anandamarkalanda1878 Рік тому +4

    Thank you for illustrating our European connection with a general historical point with the specifics of an Ceylonese historical life since 1505. As when humans began exploring the globe to trade ‘things’ just like Amazon today, The boundaries changed with ownership. This is a part of that historical trade winds that changed the shape and form of Ceylon by nautical history. The age of discovery ushered in by the Portuguese radically remade the world. Western ships were able to bring spices from Indonesia and gold from Peru back home. Fortunes were made on world trade, and the fortunes of nations shifted. Moors from Morocco who were trading in small ships were defeated by Portugese and were allowed to settle in east coast by King of Sri Lanka. Human institutions were modified to meet the changing conditions. Joint stock companies such as the Dutch East Indies Company, the British East India Company and the Hudson's Bay Company formed to take advantage of the opportunities. (Beira in Portugese means end of a river.).

  • @lakshmankarunaratne3541
    @lakshmankarunaratne3541 Рік тому +1

    Dr Careem is a precious asset to this country. I wish that more people would watch Dr. Careem's program and be enlightened about Sri Lanka. Thank you Dr Careem for sharing your precious knowledge with us.

  • @VimalPerera-hd8fr
    @VimalPerera-hd8fr Рік тому +5

    Keep up the Good programme
    Burghers have ads an Immense contribution to our country in every field
    East going nature admired
    Their good looks too admired
    Y sister in law Burgher Venessa
    Thanks🤙👏 ‼️

  • @guwani01
    @guwani01 Рік тому +1

    The way Dr Zameer articulated and his knowledge is very impressive

  • @mazecode6937
    @mazecode6937 3 роки тому +11

    Thanks for the information as a burgher I couldn't even find any information regarding my ancestors cause there's no accurate information regarding this topic but ye thanks for this video it helped me alot to understand my own ancestors

    • @nlx78
      @nlx78 2 роки тому

      TV Show -> Game Show

  • @BertramKad
    @BertramKad Рік тому +2

    Absolutely amazing explanation about Dutch Burgers history, keep it up.

  • @geoffreyatoz
    @geoffreyatoz 3 роки тому +4

    Thanks very much your presentation. Enjoyed listening to it.

  • @rexmandelima3853
    @rexmandelima3853 3 роки тому +8

    Very informative interview.

  • @chinthakaabeysinghe6758
    @chinthakaabeysinghe6758 3 роки тому +21

    I am a huge fan of Dr Careem, every week he amazes me with his incomparable knowledge, and this I learnt so much about the Dutch Burghers, It is sad that the "Sinhala Only Act" led to the disappearance of such a wonderful community. I remember there were so many Burghers when I was young, such a diverse, progressive country, Ceylon. Dr Careem, Thanks for enlightening the youngsters about a community that many have forgotten, as the title aptly suggests, the Burghers, have regrettably because of dumb politics, has become a "Lost and forgotten community". A great loss to our nation.

    • @ricvibesinc1
      @ricvibesinc1 3 роки тому

      yeah .. bro .. it just took 1 spoiler agent brainwashed by the pale colonizers in Lon don... to do the trick . & destroy the real roots of our island nation..

    • @dravidamonkey4253
      @dravidamonkey4253 2 роки тому +1

      It's sad that a Sinhala person is against the Sinhala only act.

    • @Gadavillers-Panoir
      @Gadavillers-Panoir 2 роки тому +4

      @@dravidamonkey4253 'Sinhala Only' was one of the worst things to happen to modern Sri Lanka. We should have continued with English as the official language of Ceylon.

    • @Desertfox18
      @Desertfox18 2 роки тому +1

      @@dravidamonkey4253 It's sad because a Tamil called Dravida Monkey love "Sinhala only act."

    • @dasunjana161
      @dasunjana161 Рік тому +1

      ​@@Gadavillers-Panoir " continue only english "😂 no. it would leeds to social unrest as well...

  • @wrsdes
    @wrsdes 2 роки тому +2

    Thank you doctor for your eloquent revelations.

  • @ricerecipeworldwide2449
    @ricerecipeworldwide2449 3 роки тому +8

    Well Explained 👍🏻 Hats 🎩 Off

  • @abrahamwimal2320
    @abrahamwimal2320 Рік тому +1

    . A very Big Thank You..✌👍💪🙏

  • @vimsen2221
    @vimsen2221 3 роки тому +3

    Excellent presentation, as usual.

  • @priyanthameemeduma2326
    @priyanthameemeduma2326 Рік тому +2

    Zareem careem- 1/2 european.
    I had burgher friends

  • @samtintin9907
    @samtintin9907 2 роки тому +1

    Amazing presentation well delivered

  • @TheoffcialDhaniboi
    @TheoffcialDhaniboi 7 місяців тому +1

    Wow everyone is proud of being half breed🎉🥲

  • @susanthafernando6383
    @susanthafernando6383 Рік тому +1

    Very interesting...thank you guys👌👍 it's nice to learn and know your roots ❤👌👌

  • @tangoqueen516
    @tangoqueen516 3 роки тому +2

    Such an amazing knowledge in history for an individual, who imparts it with effortless ease. I have enjoyed every programme that I have watched, and the knowledge that I have gained, is vast. Thank you Dr. Zameer Careem for the knowledge you share with us. Many blessings for all your future endeavours. - Maheeka

  • @abeyrupika
    @abeyrupika Рік тому +1

    Excellent Review

  • @emanjewels7588
    @emanjewels7588 Рік тому +1

    Masha Allah

  • @etelva
    @etelva 3 роки тому +13

    Descendentes de Portugal ❤️❤️❤️🇵🇹 em Portugal, burghers significa Rich man

    • @dravidamonkey4253
      @dravidamonkey4253 2 роки тому +1

      HALF BREED's indeed

    • @nst3347
      @nst3347 2 роки тому +4

      @@dravidamonkey4253 your comment is racist and offensive.

    • @Man-of-Steel674
      @Man-of-Steel674 Рік тому

      @@dravidamonkey4253 Dravida is considered as an inferior race If you wanna go there Let's go.

  • @shaznahfathimah8090
    @shaznahfathimah8090 2 місяці тому

    I am burgher . My surname is Brohier .proud to be a burgher .

  • @anitacohen8753
    @anitacohen8753 8 місяців тому +1

    Like the Anglo Indians in India, I am sure the present people who identify as Burghers are very different to those who went before. Old Anglo Indians had nowhere to go after the British abandoned Singapore to advancing Japanese forces. They migrated, as did the Burghers in Sri Lanka. What else could they do?

  • @sasnilareceptionhall5092
    @sasnilareceptionhall5092 3 роки тому +4

    Nethaniel Henry Lorezo Brohier Former School Principal (1847 - 1914)

  • @babyme8886
    @babyme8886 Рік тому +2

    May Lord Buddha bless all of you 😊❤️🙏

  • @paramanayakammuthucumarasw8165

    My 2 cents worth. I heard that the lands were measured, title deeds for Ownership, land registry with folios were created during these periods. My dad worked in Haffna

    • @paramanayakammuthucumarasw8165
      @paramanayakammuthucumarasw8165 Рік тому

      *Jaffna Katchcheri was able trace back his ancestry for about 10 generations from above folios. Dr. Kareem may please extend his research into these creations of land registry and if they relate to Dutch burgher marks

  • @GoldKingsMan
    @GoldKingsMan Рік тому +1

    Apparently I have some Dutch roots , only found out last year from a cousin.North side.

  • @dravidamonkey4253
    @dravidamonkey4253 2 роки тому +3

    Burghers are aptly named. They are like Big-Mac's and a mix of many different flavours, meats and vegetables.

  • @surensalgado5430
    @surensalgado5430 Рік тому +2

    👌👍🇱🇰

  • @irshaadfelthman9955
    @irshaadfelthman9955 Рік тому +1

    It's nice to get to know of our Forefathers ❤ thank you Dr Careem for the very interesting facts really enjoyed 👍....... and for the racist comments it's said that " Empty Vessel's Makes A Big Noice 😂

  • @BeLoved1953
    @BeLoved1953 3 роки тому +2

    Excuse Dr, there many tamilwords are from Dutch, with same pronunciation.

  • @emanjewels7588
    @emanjewels7588 Рік тому +1

    Insha Allah
    I am trying to introduce your history channel to Chinese.
    Its massive groups,can undestand Ceylon.
    clearly.
    Insha Allah

  • @lakshmanrajakaruna1442
    @lakshmanrajakaruna1442 Рік тому +4

    Please don't say minorities. We all are SriLankans.

  • @kazirahman-bw7cn
    @kazirahman-bw7cn 7 місяців тому

    so even sri lanka was ruled partially by the european off spring who had relations with a indiginous woman

  • @annachristie3511
    @annachristie3511 2 роки тому

    Dutch Burger used furniture show room

  • @jaohnnadarajah1735
    @jaohnnadarajah1735 3 роки тому +1

    Room is not from Dutch room english word and kakoose( toilet) is potugeese word need clarity please thks.

    • @cindygoonetilleke1035
      @cindygoonetilleke1035 2 роки тому +1

      He meant kamaraya in Sinhala

    • @ed209nl
      @ed209nl 2 роки тому +3

      Are you sure about kakoose? Because kakdoos is Dutch slang for a toilet (literally means shit-box)

    • @benedictdesilva6677
      @benedictdesilva6677 Рік тому +1

      ​@@ed209nl The richly expressive sinhalese word *Kak-Koossiya* is more likely to be a portmanteau or word-blending of Dutch (low-franconian/germanic) for poop *Kak* and the gallo-iberian Portuguese for kitchen *cozinha.*
      *Cozinha* pronounced with rapid fluency by a native speaker sounds akin to *Koossiya.*
      So the little room of intimate domestic purpose became the *poop-kitchen* in sinhalese vernacular?
      Can anyone provide the _high-sinhalese_ (insular indic) for toilet?

  • @BogalaSawundiris
    @BogalaSawundiris Рік тому +1

    Son : Dad look ! It's the overrated half breed wanna be whites !
    Dad : God bless our half breeds ! I love them !

    • @shaznahfathimah8090
      @shaznahfathimah8090 2 місяці тому

      We are not half breed ! My both parents are burghers. Please learn to respect . Watch what u say may be one of u native people did marry a white man & then u are half breed .

  • @harishramaswamy9282
    @harishramaswamy9282 3 роки тому +5

    He would obviously know about the Burghers, his mother is a Burgher, and because he is of mixed heritage, he knows a great deal about every community. This Colombo 7 so called 'posh' historian would obviously speak good English, as they are all descended from families that benefited from Colonial exploitation. It isn't rocket science to understand that this guy is some rich kid, with Colonial ideologies !!!

    • @staunchmuslim7018
      @staunchmuslim7018 3 роки тому +21

      We should acknowledge and respect the fact that he is well read for his age, 28 years with such profound knowledge. Just because Dr Careem's mum is Burgher, we cannot jump to such conclusions, we should appreciate his hard work, intelligence and his personal interest. If I am to ask you about the history of Tamils, would you be able to answer, I highly doubt it. This requires dedication, and true passion hence, don't judge someone based on their lineage and upbringing. If Dr Careem was born into privilege, its good, why envy and be jealous of him.

    • @tharanganikarunaratne872
      @tharanganikarunaratne872 3 роки тому +12

      Now I understand why Sri Lanka is still a third world country. I'm not surprised either as there are a lot of gentlemen like you who suffer from minority complex and inferiority complex.

    • @aroshliyanage4578
      @aroshliyanage4578 3 роки тому +11

      Bro, those are things you of the past, learn to love your history. Don't hold on to hate

    • @trudyherft4581
      @trudyherft4581 3 роки тому +15

      He is well informed because he educated himself on the subject. In fact, most of these facts are not popularly known amongst Burgher communities, be it Dutch , Portuguese or Eurasian. The DBs aren't aware of the tremendous impact their accomplishments have had on this country. Like everyone else, they worked hard too! We wouldn't have this conversation about the other races in this country who left similar, outstanding imprints.
      Refrain from flaunting ignorance.

    • @dravidamonkey4253
      @dravidamonkey4253 2 роки тому

      I agree with Harish.