How To Tune Your Drums Like A Pro - The Snare Drum Part 1 of 3

Поділитися
Вставка
  • Опубліковано 15 сер 2016
  • This video will teach you how to tune your drums like a pro. In this video, I will show you how to change heads and tune the snare top and bottom. I have recorded more than 1,000 drum sessions over the past 20 years as a music producer. I have worked with the best drummers in all genres of music from Vinnie Colaiuta to Josh Freese. These are the techniques I use and that you can easily learn. This is the first in my 3 part drum tuning series.
    Links To Follow:
    If you are interested in purchasing The Beato Book please with me at rickbeato1@gmail.com.com
    If you would like to support my video creation, you can hit the SUPPORT button on the sidebar of my main page
    UA-cam - / rickbeato
    Facebook - / rickbeatopro. .
    Instagram - / rickbeato1
    Twitter - @rickbeato
    www.nuryl.com
    www.rickbeato.com

КОМЕНТАРІ • 419

  • @boblatzer
    @boblatzer 6 років тому +8

    I have watched many, many videos over the years on how to tune drums. Your method is the only one that really worked for me. My drums have come alive with tone and feel. Thanks.

  • @modifidious7171
    @modifidious7171 3 роки тому +139

    You left out a crucial part of tuning the snare: when attaching a new snare wire, make sure your SNARE MECHANISM is unlocked (loose) and it's screw is loosened almost entirely. That way once you've properly attached the snare wire, you can engage the snare mech and tighten it as needed to your play style. The looser it is, the "fatter" the sound. The tighter it is, the sharper and cutting the sound will be. Otherwise perfect tutorial!

    • @stp8103
      @stp8103 2 роки тому +4

      Thank you for mentioning this. That is the hardest part of putting snare wires on a drum. It can be a bit of a challenge to line them up and have the strainer work perfectly. As far as vintage Ludwig throw-offs go, I would prefer the P-83 any day over the junky P-85. The new P-88AC isn't too bad either.

    • @birchply023
      @birchply023 2 роки тому

      Me i loosen it and maybe have to hold it were i want it its s focus thing . I already know how to tune i just like a refresh force so othen . This is a great video i get it and like it . I woulda liked to have heard it behind a drumset . But i already know how it sounds live i have one .

    • @Noah-gq7pq
      @Noah-gq7pq Рік тому

      yes indeed,,great catch

    • @ochocabra1542
      @ochocabra1542 Рік тому +2

      I just loosen it enough to give me some play, then tweak it til I get what I'm looking for

    • @Juandrumx
      @Juandrumx Рік тому

      I appreciate you noted and add it to the comments. Being a experienced drummer I went ahead and figure it out, but it's definitely needed when we're putting out these videos and countless people are watching it around the world... I always hated when somebody that could not explain in details or could even explain it after I asked that I was eventually going to get it... "You'll get it!, You'll get it!, Thank God I wasn't paying that guy for instructions lol.

  • @hotsauce5
    @hotsauce5 3 роки тому +16

    Just got back into playing the drums, played guitar for awhile, so this was a fantastic refresher on drum tuning, thank you!!

  • @jeffdowning4877
    @jeffdowning4877 Рік тому +5

    I read many comments and let's face it- we all have different techniques and rituals to break in and tune. And frankly to me, the result still sounds really gamey and ringy and raw to me. BUT, when I followed this and put a bit of dampening on it , it sounded really great. It had a fat punch and a crack and little resonance that I tend to choke out too much with my previous technique. I think there are many ways to get to a good spot for us all, and many are worth considering. Coming from Rick you know it's going to be a process worth exploring, so one needs to keep an open mind. That is something that is surprisingly problematic with musicians- one would expect them to be very accepting of different techniques and approaches, but in fact many of us are very locked into one way to do things and are convinced anything else is incorrect. And if I know anything, I know that is wrong. There are many approaches that can work. I tried this and got great results. I learned not to tame and over tighten and allow some ring that will need to be tamed a bit. But not having any overtones sucks. To me at least. And again, it depends on the application. Just like with a guitar sound what sounds great by itself sometimes does not work in the context of playing with others or a style of music or mix. It just depends.

  • @jimmymiller9524
    @jimmymiller9524 2 роки тому +9

    Hey Rick, I was a drummer back when I was a kid, and I played bass and guitar pro for decades, and now at age 60 I've pulled the ol' kit out from mothballs and needed to replace the snare heads. So glad I found this video because it made replacing them much easier and quicker than the way I did it usually. I never lost the skill for tuning drums, and your way is a tad more work on the front end, but it saves tons of time on the back end. By the time the heads were tight enough, I just had to adjust one or two lugs slightly on each and I was off to the races! Thank you so much!

  • @neonbreon
    @neonbreon 3 роки тому

    Thank you Rick! followed this step by step, couple years ago I bought a drum set third hand to learn on, had original Tama heads, went to an Evans Snare Genera Dry, OMG what a difference! Just bought heads for the toms, cant wait

  • @mr.kaplanmusic
    @mr.kaplanmusic 5 років тому +2

    Thanks so much for this video Rick! I'm a piano and synth player and your deep dive into drums has helped me immensely!!

  • @thomasmuff1486
    @thomasmuff1486 Рік тому +2

    I got to say, man, your channel is just always informative, to the point, and well done. Whether I am watching you and listening to you about something that I already know. Or if I’m listening to you talk about something that I never knew. it’s always a master class of an instruction. When it comes to music and musicianship, and then just listening enjoyment in general, you are number one. Thank you for all of your videos.

  • @ramblinrogers
    @ramblinrogers Рік тому +3

    Great tutorial. I picked up a nifty little trick the other day in regards to the old batter head. Cut it so you can lay it on top of the new one. Maybe even cut a hole in the middle, effectively making it into a ring. It’ll be a quick and easy way to muffle the sustain, without adjusting the drum itself. Always nice to find a new use for something, rather than to throw it away. 🙂

  • @TheTouchy1
    @TheTouchy1 Рік тому +5

    Great video, some very helpful tips for a long term drummer who's always struggled with tuning!

  • @jazz4asahel
    @jazz4asahel Рік тому +11

    Totally new drummer with my first drum, an old Pearl snare and vintage Slingerland stand. And Rick Beato instructing me on some basics. It doesn't get any better.

    • @novitamonitor
      @novitamonitor Рік тому

      But but but .... the tuning of the snare resohead is extreme important for the sound and attack. Learn about that elsewere!

    • @jazz4asahel
      @jazz4asahel Рік тому

      @@novitamonitor Thank you. Fortunately I had run into some instructional videos on that. I have had to apply that even more to the tuning of my rack toms.

  • @mat4410
    @mat4410 Рік тому +3

    The first thing to do on a 402 is change the P-85 throw off. Lol Glad you caught the point on the rim weights. Most folk would overlook the mention. I really enjoy your channel.

  • @timothyroberts2103
    @timothyroberts2103 Рік тому +12

    There's a lot of really good drummers out there that have never bothered to master the art of tuning their drums correctly, especially in church drumming. This was a great tutorial. I've actually never heard of anybody breaking the seals like that.

  • @grahamroden9374
    @grahamroden9374 3 роки тому

    I’ve given this method a go on two of my snares. Worked a treat. My thanks.

  • @Customwinder1
    @Customwinder1 5 років тому +3

    This is great. I have a heap of steel snare drums ans a couple of wood shell snare drums and using your methods make them all sound great.
    I like the different sounds they all produce. Using a few different heads makes a difference too.
    Thanks Rick . Love ya work 👍

  • @trevord4243
    @trevord4243 Рік тому +1

    Hey Rick, Great share. Gonna be kicking back and watch all three of this series. Awesome stuff!

  • @theurbread
    @theurbread 4 роки тому +191

    how to get a good snare sound:
    step 1. get a ludwig supraphonic
    step 2. thats it

    • @dustinl2640
      @dustinl2640 3 роки тому

      Supraphonic is hard to tune

    • @MartinBellamyMBDrums
      @MartinBellamyMBDrums 3 роки тому

      Ahahaha! no kidding!

    • @michaelengle9062
      @michaelengle9062 2 роки тому +4

      Pretty much...it's hard to make a Supra sound 'bad" at all. I mean, the sound you like is subjective of course but these things have a good quality sound no matter what heads or tensions I've tried.

    • @jimmymiller9524
      @jimmymiller9524 2 роки тому

      Don't have a Supra but I have an old Ludwig 6 1/2" x 14" wood snare from the 50's that is absolute magic and I plan on getting a 70's Supra for something different.

    • @jetyler3400
      @jetyler3400 Рік тому

      My Supra is just untouchable...amazing snare.

  • @SallyEddy
    @SallyEddy 6 років тому +4

    Rick you are a life saver :) had a lot of trouble with my snare drum until I watched this video !!! :) THANK YOU SOOOOOO MUCH !!!!

  • @DamianS1893
    @DamianS1893 4 роки тому

    Rick, Thanks for sharing your knowledge

  • @thebouncinghearts
    @thebouncinghearts 7 років тому

    Love your videos.....you make drum tuning interesting, keep up the great work!

  • @DirectCurrent4u
    @DirectCurrent4u 4 роки тому +2

    I still Love my 1976 Dyna Sonic Sound. (Rogers) I bought the drum kit in 1976 and have been making a living with it ever since. Still sounds as good as the day I bought it. Very crisp!!! Thanks for sharing Rick...

  • @spin_soul
    @spin_soul 7 років тому +1

    Awesome video, very comprehensive. Keep em' coming! :)

  • @claytonbozard
    @claytonbozard 7 років тому +1

    Cool video Rick. I have that snare and didn't know that about the rims being a different size from the older supraphonic's. Going to give that a try!

  • @moonkef
    @moonkef 7 років тому

    Best drum tuning tips from a great producer!

  • @misledswede9986
    @misledswede9986 7 років тому +208

    I don't know why I found him throwing the skin away so funny

    • @cbparker44
      @cbparker44 7 років тому +19

      I thought you meant when he first took it off.. I thought, that's not very funny... then I saw him toss it back into the rest of his studio, and I found it pretty damn funny too. lol

    • @drummer4hire12
      @drummer4hire12 4 роки тому +1

      I thought it was going to hit the lamp at first.......that would have been golden!!!

    • @dannyfoxguided
      @dannyfoxguided 3 роки тому

      Finger tighten is my new favorite thing. The first toss I thought was funny too.

    • @DH-tn5xl
      @DH-tn5xl 3 роки тому

      I laughed pretty hard too and then 5 minutes later I see your comment.

    • @5000rgb
      @5000rgb 3 роки тому +1

      The timing.

  • @daverothfarb2739
    @daverothfarb2739 3 роки тому

    Thank you Rick, this was so helpful!

  • @mkreple
    @mkreple 7 років тому +12

    snare head frisbee... absolutely hilarious! 👍

  • @steveballstadt1013
    @steveballstadt1013 Рік тому +19

    Rick (from my experience playing for a long time) when you place the head on the batter side of the snare you may want to consider placing the joint where the collar is glued together over one of the lugs. It usually prevents uneven crinkling and/or buzzing (which will make your life more difficult especially in the studio).

    • @ScrambleBandOfficial
      @ScrambleBandOfficial 10 місяців тому

      How do you mean place it over a lug?

    • @kingnamedghidorah
      @kingnamedghidorah 9 місяців тому +1

      @@ScrambleBandOfficial I believe he means to line the joint up with one of the lugs

  • @michaelj.morris1979
    @michaelj.morris1979 3 роки тому

    Learned a lot . Thanks @rick beato !

  • @CiaoGibson
    @CiaoGibson 4 роки тому

    Excellent post. Thx Rick!

  • @crome2194
    @crome2194 2 роки тому +2

    I've been following your critic videos for over a year now. As a songwriter who just bought his first drum set days ago in order to learn the instrument(s) so I could write the drum parts, I'm very happy to find this video from years ago. I have a lot to figure out.

  • @Kman1960
    @Kman1960 5 років тому

    ha ha, you left the bar code sticker on the snare side rim. Thanks for the video Rick, appreciated it!

  • @PlanetRockJesus
    @PlanetRockJesus Рік тому +9

    It's cool how Rick, being mostly a guitarist, is so knowledgeable on drum tech.

    • @daveyboy8907
      @daveyboy8907 Рік тому +4

      It's a studio he needs to have lots of knowledge on every instrument.

    • @newdeltamusic
      @newdeltamusic Рік тому

      Mostly a bass player, isn't he? Just happens to also play "a little" guitar XD : )

    • @newdeltamusic
      @newdeltamusic Рік тому

      I'm not correct here. His undergrad was bass, but his gigs were mostly guitar --- or is he "mostly" a sound engineer? Producer? Interesting question to pose to Rick: what DOES he self identify as? A Musician?

    • @snickpickle
      @snickpickle Рік тому +1

      @@newdeltamusic I would identify him as a versatile teaching musician who has a recording studio and lots and lots of real-world experience and friends who are really good musicians in their own right, with a liberal topping of awesome sauce!

  • @TheStudioDrummer
    @TheStudioDrummer 5 років тому

    Good stuff. I just uploaded a 3 minute shortcut drum tuning video and yours came up in my feed. Great as always Rick!

  • @basilioskay8159
    @basilioskay8159 3 роки тому

    man you are great !!! love these 3 videos !

  • @cortbengtson4149
    @cortbengtson4149 2 місяці тому

    Great video. Tons of info for me a beginner ❤

  • @drummingisdreaming4386
    @drummingisdreaming4386 7 років тому +5

    Great videos, I use your technique regularly now. I do have one issue though. I have toured both the Remo and Evans heads plants and neither of them put glue on the collar of the head, only in the hoop holing the head in place. The collar of both is formed by heating the film and bending it over a mold, hot in Remo's case and cold in Evan's case, no glue ever touches the collar. The cracking you hear is the film itself cracking at the collar point, not any kind of glue. By cracking it like you do, you may make the collar less stiff to form over the bearing edges better, but no glue is involved. Great videos, keep them coming!

  • @PaulMarangoni
    @PaulMarangoni 7 років тому +54

    The "cracking" sound that Remo's heads make when you place them under tension is NOT the sound of glue cracking. It's the sound of the collar forming against the bearing edge of the drum. Rather than pressing into the collar of the head with your hands, it is much better (and safer) to just tension the head tightly and then let it sit for an hour or two. Then you can loosen the head and then tension it up to where you want it.

    • @paulpresson4507
      @paulpresson4507 5 років тому +5

      I also have never heard of anyone deforming the collar to "break up the glue" before mounting the head. I wonder where he got that instruction from.

    • @aaronatz9619
      @aaronatz9619 3 роки тому +2

      Yup I usually do mine at night and let it sit till morning

    • @johncole4882
      @johncole4882 2 роки тому +3

      I've seen a drummer literally stand on top of a new head and even jump on it.

    • @ItsBriiiiii
      @ItsBriiiiii 2 роки тому +2

      @@paulpresson4507 when I was taught how to tension a snare drum, it was to "seat" the head by putting pressure on each side of the rims evenly. You will hear the cracking sound. This is when the head is only finger-tightened and only light pressure, evenly. Then, you will have loosened tension in the rods some as well , so another finger tighten. Then you're ready to tune the drum up as well as (evenly) putting pressure in the center of the head. Never failed for me, this was from a professional player and instructor

    • @krusher74
      @krusher74 Рік тому

      using a tune bot if i tune a head up to a desired pitch, if i then put a cloth in the center and then using the heal of my hand press on it with all my weight it will streatch and and can then tune it back up to the desired pitch, usually about 5 cycle of this and then it will stop changing and hold pitch. i bet you head tats sat for a hour or 2 is still stretchable and will detune after playing.

  • @philipmorris57
    @philipmorris57 Рік тому

    Hell of blast beat, right there Rick 🤣

  • @RichardMcGoldrick
    @RichardMcGoldrick Рік тому +4

    If you want to tension drum head rims progressively and arrive at an even tension accross the head, number opposite lugs as a pair rather than every lug. For example, a ten lug rim will have five pairs. First determine which will be called pair one (use the logo or put a mark or some masking tape on the shell to be clear about that firstly). Then, progressively tension each pair rotating clockwise (ask your grand dad what that means), and call out 1, 3, 2 4 as you tweak these pairs. Doing that methodically will help prevent confusing yourself doing this save time getting an even pitch around the head. Nice kit Rick.

  • @mzambo666
    @mzambo666 11 місяців тому

    Thank you so very much for the video! very nice

  • @janpetre1577
    @janpetre1577 7 років тому

    Really usefull video! My snare sounds really good now!

  • @andyorr1597
    @andyorr1597 Рік тому

    We started using the Drum Dial to precisely tighten the lugs on the three kits - Ludwig Downbeat 20, Gretsch Brooklyn and Pearl Reference - I keep in my studio. They’ve never sounded better.

  • @pjlogan386
    @pjlogan386 Рік тому

    I wish someone had told me about the 1.6 rims 25 years ago, thank Rick.have changed them now.

  • @tripppayne8777
    @tripppayne8777 4 роки тому

    For an old Supra, that thing is in amazing shape. Moon gel FTW.

  • @andreashoppe1969
    @andreashoppe1969 4 роки тому

    It flies pretty well!!

  • @devicesquad6481
    @devicesquad6481 7 років тому

    Top tips! Cheers!

  • @aftertheendtimes
    @aftertheendtimes Рік тому

    thaks Rick very informative for a rookie like me =) Love cheers

  • @martyylitalo
    @martyylitalo Рік тому +1

    I love many of Rick Beato’s videos and have for years. I have learned so much about production, arrangement and theory from him. As a drummer however, this was hard to watch. Rob “Beatdown” Brown is a great source for all things drumset biased. With all due respect Rick.

    • @joegiotta7580
      @joegiotta7580 Рік тому

      I’m with you on this vid. He does a LOT of things and says a lot of things that are off the mark.
      Where I disagree is with Rob Brown. He reinforces a ton of false “knowledge” and stereotypes within drumming and especially technique. Brown has a good YT presence and good production. He is also a pretty good drummer. He is an awful teacher.

    • @martyylitalo
      @martyylitalo Рік тому

      @@joegiotta7580 true. I was just appreciating Rob Brown’s approach to snare tuning. Who’s your “go-to” for drum instruction?

  • @virginia7125
    @virginia7125 2 роки тому +1

    I've watched other videos on tuning snares. Yours made more sense than anybody else's I've ran across. I have a Pearl, play mostly latin music, & it's a 14 × 5½. Looking for suggested pitches to tune both sides. Note ⭐ I sometimes use brushes for acoustic setups.

    • @krusher74
      @krusher74 Рік тому

      318hz top 400hz bottom. (if that not hight enough go to 356top) buy a tunebot.

  • @devinbuchhorn
    @devinbuchhorn 6 років тому +10

    Love this video, the only thing I would suggest is using the 2 key method when tightening lugs. It makes it much more accurate and quicker!

    • @christophertracy5188
      @christophertracy5188 Рік тому

      Isn't this exactly what is suggested at 6:44 😂

    • @bmessacar
      @bmessacar Рік тому

      @@christophertracy5188 But Gretsch keys are expensive..lol {nice to have tho}

  • @davis_taylor.1984
    @davis_taylor.1984 4 роки тому

    Thank you man!

  • @stevelangonedrumchannel272
    @stevelangonedrumchannel272 4 роки тому

    I really like your videos, thank you

  • @morgunstyles7253
    @morgunstyles7253 Рік тому +1

    I made a jig that applies even pressure all around the drum. Squeezing the drum so to speak. Only the rim down onto the drum. With pressure applied, finger tighten rods (you can use a key if you want) release pressure, drum tuned. you can get consistant tuning, and all rods will be the same. No guessing. Want a higher pitch? Squeeze more. Its the same principle as pushing down with your hand, only its all at once and uniform.

    • @richardhingle3634
      @richardhingle3634 Рік тому

      Oh wow! That's a brilliant suggestion 👏. As a veteran musician and master carpenter don't know why I never thought of that myself.

  • @jaumepp1975
    @jaumepp1975 3 роки тому

    You should talk about the many ways we can tune drums, and all seem to work just fine. 7th time i watch this video :)

  • @kevschua
    @kevschua 7 років тому +4

    Really good throws

  • @BonesJonesMusicMD
    @BonesJonesMusicMD 3 роки тому

    Great video thanks!

  • @benjabravo00
    @benjabravo00 3 роки тому +1

    3:18 this is why I love Rick

  • @rafaelferrer1
    @rafaelferrer1 7 років тому +1

    Hello Rick and thanks for the videos and lesson.
    Question : When you work with Vinnie C,how you tuning the drums or if you used a some Signature Key ( A ,C ,D ,E ) for example. Let me Know and thanks

  • @Chiroman527
    @Chiroman527 Рік тому

    Hey Rick, I know this is a very old Video. I don't have your email, so I will make this post of an occurrence I encountered with my DW Design Series Nickel over Brass 14 X 6.5 Snare drum. I bought it used in 2021 via Reverb. It came with the previous owner installed HD Dry batter head. It played great out of the dleivery box. It was Cranked High on both heads. A month ago or so, I replaced the batter head with anew HD Dry one; re-installed he stock reso head and wires. I could not get that Sweet Sound that I liked , no matter how much tweaked it. I have a PdP Concept Maple 7 Drum Kit including a 14 X 5.5 Snare. After getting that kit (also Used) I replaced the stock Batter head with a HD Dry. Last week while playing to Music (I'm a 71 yo retiree who plays for pleasure about 1 hour a day), I placed the PdP snare in the stand. I put the DW snare on my 16 Inch Floor Tom - just to get it out of the way. During a fill, I hit the DW snare - Bingo - That was the Sound I was looking to attain, the Jon Bonham sound !! Better than the out of the delivery box sound. Take the drum off the Tom, it was not the same. I've posted this Phenominum on a number of Forums. One poster said that I was Playing 2 Drums simultaneously ; another jokingly said that I may have Invented a new Snare Stand. Like You, I have a little OCD about certain things. Drum Tuning has become one of the OCD issues :(:(. Any idea as to what is going on. Even the PdP maple snare sounds better when doing this!. I even tried placing an extra EC2 clear 16" Tom head in the snare stand, and placing the drum on top of that - sounds a bit better than w/o it, but not the same as being on the Floor tom. Appreciate your or others' thoughts about this. PS: I just tried chnaging the batter head to a UV1 (NG), then a UV2 - still not happy with it.

  • @rafaelferrer1
    @rafaelferrer1 7 років тому +1

    Greetings from Miami !

  • @PieterGNel
    @PieterGNel 5 років тому

    Hi Rick! Love your videos. I have a question about mixing a snare drum. I am currently mixing a swing track with both flat stick and snare being played normally. What is a good way to control the dynamics between the two while still giving it space to breath?

  • @louisvarga7282
    @louisvarga7282 Рік тому +1

    To replace those old snare wire plastic bands, I cut the inside ply from an old clear tom head into many replacement snare wire bands. They are stronger than the ones that come with the wires.

  • @youtube.comArthurJames
    @youtube.comArthurJames Рік тому +1

    Hey Rick, How about a video on Ringo's Drum 🥁 Tuning for Recording. His sound is amazing ! 🥁

  • @KeelanOHara
    @KeelanOHara 7 років тому

    Thanks for the great tips Rick! Do you have any go to pitches for snare batter/Reso like you do toms?

  • @jonnyd4306
    @jonnyd4306 6 років тому

    Use Evans heads and you won't have to do your little DJ spin to seat it...lol I'm just kidding bro, I'm an Evans guy and had to do a little trash talking , love the channel and a big thanks for the help you provide.

  • @jobrimar8291
    @jobrimar8291 5 років тому

    Great stuff here Rick, if only I’d known about this back in the 80’s lol.
    Howbout making a Beat-O ( geddit!?!) practice pad kinda thingy with the tuning clock printed on it
    + some of your other tuning tips as a reference point. Beginners would love it, sound engineers even
    more so. Just a thought. Get thee to Dragons Den.

  • @davidcudlip6587
    @davidcudlip6587 Рік тому

    Great video. @3:21 you don't know how bad I wanted that tossed head to knock down that lamp. I'm always in confusion on what snare head I should be using.

  • @phrosda
    @phrosda 7 років тому +271

    shiny it's done? I play until there's a hole in it.

    • @jonnyd4306
      @jonnyd4306 6 років тому +5

      Phrosda1 Z same here, I play my snare heads until they're as slick as a used racing tire. But since I started using the Evans Hybrid I at least get my damn money's worth.

    • @m0j0b0ne
      @m0j0b0ne 5 років тому +5

      Doesn't matter that much, unless you ever need to use brushes; if the coating's gone the brush work suffers. Drummers can go their whole career and never use brushes. Or learn to play a waltz properly. I hate those drummers, and I don't hire them.

    • @davidstoleson792
      @davidstoleson792 5 років тому +4

      Cool. Where is the link to your video on snare tuning?

    • @10000rambos
      @10000rambos 4 роки тому +2

      Phrosda1 Z Cool. You and my drummer should swap ideas. He swears by aluminum tape trick, and better yet the old “piece of drum head held on by aluminum tape” trick. He tells me it’s not one you’ll find in the book.

    • @joehartman87
      @joehartman87 4 роки тому +7

      @@m0j0b0ne I prefer playing a worn head with brushes. It adds color when you go from smooth to rough. BTW I'm not looking for work so no biggie.

  • @thegingerdrumtech4253
    @thegingerdrumtech4253 Рік тому

    great video

  • @bobbycoltrane7552
    @bobbycoltrane7552 4 роки тому

    Blues, Rock and Alternative I get. Need to tube for Hip Hop.

  • @simonalexandercritchley439
    @simonalexandercritchley439 3 роки тому

    Rick can you cover some of the different aspects,like tuning to a note,detuning 2 lugs etc. I like tighter bottom head on snares,for crispness,a little looser but still tight on top. I have different kits or parts of for various styles: Gretsch classic maple (black) 6.5" x14, Gr. chrome/brass 5"x14 all die cast hoops. Premier 3.5" x14 birch,pressed steel hoop. Pearl 8"x14 chrome/maple die cast hoop. Slingerland 5"x14 chrome/brass pressed steel hoop. I play Rock,blues,R&B,jazz.latin,folk. I also have Roland TD9 kit.

  • @gagamoola
    @gagamoola 3 роки тому

    rick!! happy 2020............following your instructions to the tee--,, getting good results,,..my snare is sounding so good .. my 12" tom is too, but the tom frequency is rattling my snare wire like exactly horrible ..lol
    >>>any thoughts? (the other toms arent effecting the wire at all.thanks !

  • @pleximanic
    @pleximanic 7 років тому +3

    Great!
    I always use Dry Lube PTFE Spray on the snare shell bearing edges "friction is your enemy whatever you are tuning!

  • @taffboyslim
    @taffboyslim Рік тому

    I used to have an acoustic drum kit. I loved the process of changing and tuning up the heads. I also love the process of changing guitar strings - is it weird to say 'thank you' to them when you take them off?

  • @trisdactedalot2995
    @trisdactedalot2995 Рік тому +1

    Amusingly, Rick, and I almost hate to mention this, the bar code sticker was still attached to the bottom rim. Affects nothing, but it's probably a great trigger for those of us who are also a bit obsessive compulsive (in the colloquial sense). Unless, of course, the snare is for sale, lol.

    • @hankmore1
      @hankmore1 Рік тому

      Haha, I noticed that too and would never leave it on.

  • @mat4410
    @mat4410 Рік тому

    Ludwig Superphonic 402: using the Evans HD dry (the pinholes around the edge) Evans 300 on the snare side, Puresound steel 20 strand. Put a Trick throw off with the milled adapter.
    The 200 was too sensitive to Tom sympathetic overtones.
    ; likely best for symphonic/ concert band.

  • @chardrum
    @chardrum Рік тому

    I like the throw off be to my left and the air hole facing forward.

  • @DrGray_Drummer
    @DrGray_Drummer 3 роки тому

    No matter what snare I've bought, or how much I loved the sound, or paid. I ALWAYS go back to the Supra. That's the second time I've heard you say "Indi bands" don't play rim shots. Are they usually less skilled? I had never heard that until you said that

  • @CheckDrummer
    @CheckDrummer 3 роки тому

    Thank you very much

  • @ccdrums1290
    @ccdrums1290 6 років тому

    Cord over straps for sure. Much more open and resonant sound.

  • @seppoinnanen5577
    @seppoinnanen5577 Рік тому +1

    Aquarian heads don't usually have those snap/crackle/pop starting sounds like Remos do. Plus, the head profile differs from Remos' by having an "oversized" flat area with lower edge part. That's why I prefer Aquarians. They can be used with any brand drums

  • @Lucretia2222
    @Lucretia2222 3 роки тому +2

    Great video, I appreciate your work. I guess it's personal preference, but I really dislike everything about triple-flanged hoops. Especially on snare drums. Maybe it's better on certain kinds of recording, but I'm a big fan of die cast hoops or 'S'-Hoops (Sonic/Saver/Sticksaver/Safety). If I want a more open sound, I opt for the S-Hoops, if I want a more focused sound I go for the Die-Cast. I just find them to be much more durable, easier on sticks, the S-hoops help hold loose muffling rings and such in place, they also protect the bearing edge, and give a different, to my ear, fatter rimshot than triple-flange, and both die-cast and S-hoops tend to hold a tuning more evenly for longer around the drum, even under heavy use. One of the best 's-hoops' I've seen has been the proprietary Mapex Black Panther Snare Sonic-Saver Hoops, if S-hoops are a compromise between triple-flanged and die-cast hoops, then the Sonic Savers are like the compromise between S-hoops and Die-cast, they're probably about as solid as die-cast hoops structurally, but more open in resonance/lighter. I agree they can deaden a drum slightly, but I would argue in most situations, the amount it deadens it relative to what you can get out of it via tuning and micing, is marginal, perhaps even desirable. Plus. especially on a snare, it's very common to bend triple flange rims from use and age, or de-tune the batter head from rimshots. Obviously, it's not as big of a concern in lighter styles, but these are things I've noticed playing heavier rock drums where gear breakdowns like that can waste a lot of time/money.

    • @LudingtonBass
      @LudingtonBass Рік тому

      Somebody got an A in drums class.
      Rock on 🤘🏽 dude.

  • @DailyFlux
    @DailyFlux 7 років тому +2

    I'm a pep drummer and we play on multiple snares and basses. How do I tune my snares and basses if I want them to sound in harmony? For example I want my snare line to sound very bright and my basses very deep.

  • @dizzolve
    @dizzolve 3 роки тому +2

    8:12 the 4 lugs around the snare bed will need to be cranked a little more than the others because the bearing edge sits lower for the snares. On wood drums they'll sand the edge down almost to flat...... I've seen on metal shells the same type of contour or none at all. But you'll generally have to tighten out some wrinkles on the 4 lugs directly adjacent to the snare mechanisms

    • @johncole4882
      @johncole4882 2 роки тому

      I believe Ludwig's metal drums don't have snare beds they're just flat. At least my 1970s acrolite is

  • @PhilRounds
    @PhilRounds Рік тому

    "Going around" the head to tension it...even by hand, causes the head to seat unevenly. Always cross tension the head...even at the beginning. Plastic strips don't allow the snares to "breath" because they have no stretch to them. Better to use chords or woven straps. Evenly tensioning each rod is really not very important. Getting them relatively close is good enough. Some drummers even loosen a couple of rods to take away some of the ring.
    Buddy Rich used to say, "You don't 'tune' a drum head, you tension it".
    The thing about hoop thickness is that thick hoops actually ring MORE. Try this experiment: Take off a cast or super hoop, suspend it by one finger and strike it with a stick. It will ring like a bell. Do the same with a 1.6mm hoop and it will have much less ring. Using a thinner hoop actually allows more energy to go into the shell rather than into the hoop. Also thick or cast hoops tend to have a better cross stick and louder rim shot sound. So it's a trade off. If you want that airy snare sound go with thin hoops...If you want a harder sound go thick.
    Snare wires themselves are another thing. If you want a fat, wet drum sound go with 42 strand snares. If you like a quick, sharp sound use 20 or 24 strand snares. I would advise cranking the snare side head up VERY tight and then tensioning the batter side to suit the music or what you'd like to hear, high or low.

  • @babyjesus2025
    @babyjesus2025 3 роки тому

    Does sound good

  • @Eurodrummer666
    @Eurodrummer666 4 роки тому

    What about levelling the resonant head? As Sounds like a drum recommends.

  • @tubbers20
    @tubbers20 5 років тому +2

    Thanks for the video and tips. I tuned my 6.5 a different way, but it still has the 'Bonham' sound. I'm getting a symphonic snare soon, either a Grover or Pearl. :^)

    • @richardhingle3634
      @richardhingle3634 Рік тому

      For anyone interested...it's been written Bonham was a fan of tuning his snare in Perfect Fourths...for those unfamiliar with this, that means the relationship between batter and reso heads yields a hertz ratio approximately 1.33 times between the heads. Naturally, the type and thickness of your heads will yield close numbers but not exactly...
      Fool In The Rain: G#
      Batter 303 Reso 412
      When The Levee Breaks: F#
      Batter 320 Reso 355
      Check this with a calculator and you'll see a relationship just under 1.33, the difference explained by thick, dry heads (batter) and a loosened strainer to yield a dry, cracking sound. Hope this helps any younger drummers looking to understand tuning relationships. Best of 🤞.

  • @rctubs3593
    @rctubs3593 4 роки тому

    I always make sure the throw off is in the down position when installing snares other wise you will not have a wide range of tension for the snares. They will be on the loose side.

  • @edwardhaaland2310
    @edwardhaaland2310 Рік тому +1

    Nice lesson Rick! Just to offer an FYI: Those vintage Supraphonics you mentioned that had the lighter rims from the 1970s are great for another reason,- they were equipped with the internal muffler control so you didn't have to mess around with those crappy makeshift dampening methods like tape, moon gel, drum dots or even setting your wallet on the drum like some guys do (ha ha!) So I always recommend (when possible) to go with a vintage Ludwig snare drum as they were better equipped.

  • @SignalFragments
    @SignalFragments Рік тому

    What brand 1.6mm hoops do you recommend? Are DFDs any good?

  • @masterbeater
    @masterbeater 4 місяці тому

    Been a pro for 50 years and if I have time, I always hold the drum in the air ( without heads or rims ) and tap the shell to hear its fundamental tone which is the area of tuning that that particular drum sounds best at. This mainly is for wood drums but also some others. Experiment!

  • @joaocarvalho9689
    @joaocarvalho9689 5 років тому +19

    Rick. I love your videos but there's something you do with the reso head that l conpletely disagree with.
    Tightening the reso head that much doesn't mean it gives you the best sound. In fact you're overtensioning the reso head and you might ruin it if you ever want to tune it lower. I used to do that when l started and it completely destroyed the head's tuning ability once l brough it lower to a specific high pitch within the recommended range.
    I also like my resos tight to the max, with the batter higher than the reso, but you can also get perfect sound the other way around. What l'm saying is: dont bring your reso head higher than 440Hz ~ A4 because you'll get choked sound beyound that and people who are learning to tune should get the feel of the reso resonance. As for the batter l go with what sounds best. I have a great rich fat sound on my roadshow's snare because of that. But l completely fucked my reso head overtensioning it beyound 440hz.
    Keep that in mind. Aint so hard to train your ear and experiment within range. I usually use a pitch emmiter on my phone like you did with the toms. It works.
    Tightening the reso to the max only works as a last resort when you really have a cheap low end snare drum with a lot of annoying overtones. However good tuning and knowing the recommended ranges works best most of the time.

    • @richardhingle3634
      @richardhingle3634 Рік тому

      I agree...400hz max on the reso or risk splitting the head.

    • @johnvandyk6515
      @johnvandyk6515 Рік тому

      Finally some one has said it…I like to almost match the tone on both heads, and use the end of a stick when tuning! Do you have a drumstick? Rick’s snare was way, way too high, esp as a starting off point.

  • @GamalielRios
    @GamalielRios 7 років тому +1

    3:20 EPIC...!!!

  • @emo10001
    @emo10001 Рік тому

    Great video but why the jump at 11:23 to the batter head? How tight did you actually get the snare head? I've heard people say to make the snare side head very very tight. But that's pretty subjective. I'd like to know how tight you actually got it

  • @codersexpo1580
    @codersexpo1580 2 роки тому

    I shoot for G3 bottom and A2 top, put a moon gel on if in the studio or let the overtones happen naturally live, and call it a day. ;-)

  • @GuitarForceUnite
    @GuitarForceUnite 2 роки тому

    Hey Rick, what size hoops do I need if I want to sound like Bonham?

  • @mrjohnlowry
    @mrjohnlowry Рік тому

    Rick, can you post a link for where to access 1.6mm triple flange hoops, please.

  • @RogierRJDonker
    @RogierRJDonker 7 років тому +1

    Rick, what about players that keep heads on forever? some like the sound. even when the head is "shiny". don't get me wrong... love fresh heads! great video! good info, thanks! didn't know about the 1.6 and 2.3 on the supra. what do you think about the pre 62's with the brass shells?

    • @RogierRJDonker
      @RogierRJDonker 7 років тому +2

      Jammy Sizlo 4 hours is for guys like styx and other bands that level. but even at that level people use heads for more than 4 hours. Todd sucherman uses heads longer in his studio. live they swap a lot! but that's so it cuts in the mix. but garage drummers 4 times a year? for non endorsed people once every 6 months is OK usually. myself I just judge by tone. when it goes is time. snare is first and small toms. I think it's all subjective....