Music Production - How To Get A Great Snare Sound on Your Recordings
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- Опубліковано 23 вер 2016
- In this episode I will show you how to get a great snare sound on your recordings. I discuss tuning, snare length, how to dampen overtones, rimshot verses center hits and how to mic the snare for the best sound.
Records To Check Out That I Produced and Recorded:
Jump Little Children itunes.apple.com/us/album/bet...
Crowfield - Goodbye, Goodnight So Long Midwestern itunes.apple.com/us/album/bet...
Needtobreathe - The Reckoning itunes.apple.com/us/album/the...
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I really enjoy how you focused on the mechanics side of the recording and the drums rather than the mixing side. It shows that it has more to do with the instrument than the way it's mixed. Something I'm trying to convey to my band mates. In music, you can't polish a turd.
LOL! Rigby Otto is the closed caption translation of your name. Gold.
Seb Warren Music hilarious
"It's got a lot of Bonham end" 11:11
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So I dig out my Shinedown CD, look at the back, " *produced by Rick Beato", cool! Thanks for the great vids!!
Cool! Most people think I play the piano and teach theory. Haha! I always have people writing to me saying I had no idea you were a producer :)
Rick Beato to be honest your set up and equipment should speak for itself
You don't have to listen to too many until it shows up ... "I did this for so-and-so on their record" ... but some people I guess don't pay much attention? It's actually the one thing that made me interested in the first place. I've produced one record ... wish I could do it as "work" ;-)
I really like your videos, your personnality and authenticity. You will help a lot of musicians in the process. Thank you!
You can also modulate the pitch of a rimshot depending on where you hit (and how thick that portion of the stick is)...doesn’t always have to be dead center. One of my prouder moments in my old band was I switched from a lower (center) rimshot to a higher one for different sections of the song based on the harmony of different sections. I don’t know if anyone ever noticed but it sounded a lot better to me.
I wish this was out many moons ago. Over 30 years to figure out a lot of this. But not some of the finer details. Great knowledge and communication.
Great Vid...Sir you seem to be one of the only Pro's on UA-cam , who are actually teaching us relevant information on production techniques in an organized and concise manner, without any name dropping or BS. Thank you for sharing...
+James Saldana thanks James!
The most badass name he could drop would be his own sooooo....there’s really no point in that
That was probably the most comprehensive snare overview! Learned a lot, thx!
The Beatle’s “HELP!” seems to be the most obvious example of a Beatle’s Snare tuned to the tonic “A”. Very cool.
Thanks for sharing so much wisdom, Rick. I especially liked how you went through the tracks and commented on each snare sound. Interesting point about snare length and song tempo.
Thanks for all of these helpful tutorials, Rick. They are so helpful.
Your channel is incredible. Thanks for all the wisdom and knowledge you share.
Man, I love Shinedown. It's great to hear you produced them. Love from Poland!
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Love it :) - Really amazing how the emphasis is on the drum tuning, sound of the drum and then mic placement rather than what microphone to use, compared to 95% percent of what is found on the net!!
Thanks, great info, especially tuning the snare wire to the tempo of the song.
Don't be afraid to throw it intentionally out of tune, too! That can also work depending on the song. It seems to makes it pop through more as opposed to blending in with the rest of the mix, but again it really depends on t he song. Tends to work better with a short decay too I've noticed.
This channel is one of a few music class I take. Thank you for making so much good content
Oh man, you produced Needtobreathe's The Reckoning. I Love this record. Amazing Job, Congrats!
Amazing Mr. B. You are a great teacher. ✌️
Great content on this channel! Drummers with limited budgets: placing a full sheet of regular printer paper on your snare head will also work if you literally have nothing to dampen your snare. Just lay it right in the middle. Add another sheet or 2 if you want more dampening. Again, this is the cheapest, last resort method, but it works.
Man, you did an awesome job matching the snare sound to the song on most of those tracks. Great video.
Keep going, Rick! All of your videos are so dope.
For Mia is one of my favorite tracks that you did. It has an amazing harmony before the chorus. I would like to see you dissect this song! Thanks for everything, Rick!
Great video, as a retired live engineer I appreciate your insight. I learned stuff and felt vindicated at the same time.
Thank you! Great video....really helping with my schooling at Berklee.
Kinda tells you how effective Berklee is! :) I went to Berklee....then went back to playing /recording for a living!
Bill Bruford was the king of the rimshot. This was very informative, thanks!
Another great vid Rick! Thanks so much for sharing...Especially those amazing recordings you produced of some great sounding bands! Continued success:)
All I ever play and have ever played is rim shots! I don't miss! Been playing for 50 years! 👍 Great video!!
This is wildly helpful man, thank you for putting this together!
Thanks Rick love these informational videos keep them coming
Hi Rick, I'm really glad I've found your channel. Ive tried many methods for drum tuning and have never really found a great method.......until now!!! I had a horrible gig last week all because I couldn't find a good sound for my pearl Joey Jordison signature snare. I've watched your video, tuned it up and it sounds better than it ever has. I have a gig tonight and can't wait. You've also solved the mystery of why my bottom lug always comes undone! (I'm a rim shotter and I'm not afraid to admit it) keep up the good work!
Man, I love those snare drum sounds. Your right about the Ludwig BB snare, been around since the seventies.
Rick, again it amazes me your willingness to share real-world knowledge of the record production process. In the recording realm, drums have been a fascination for me since . . . well, a very long time. I know some drummers to actually lay a bead of calk or silicone on the drum head, just off the rim - to varying lengths, as required. I once, for the lack of any gate, and to achieve an effect, used canvass tympani covers on rack toms. It's one of those "don't look at the drums!" situations. Thank you for making these tutorials. I know if I ever allow myself to become unteachable - that I already know enough, I will quickly be of no value to anything or anyone whose life depends on making music.
I know it’s thee years old, but it’s still very relevant and useful. Thanks Rick.
7:10 very nice. My preferred sound. I'm a rimshotter
I have the exact same kit in that finish and the exact same snare. Love the combination
Wow so much and great information. Thank you so much señor Rick!!
Man, I love your content. Great work. Very informative. Thank you!
Thanks Jared!
Very helpful thank you! I'm a songwriter adding snare hits into my acoustic songs and I had a friend (drummer) come tune my snare for me, but I wasn't sure if the higher frequency "ring" on my snare that I can now hear meant i had stray frequencies, but now i realize that ring is supposed to be there. Some dampening should do the trick for me.
Bro this is actually really helpful and informative thanks man
I knew all of this with the exception of tightening and loosening the snares for different tempos. I always tighten them up and add reverb for slow songs instead. I’m going to have to try that. This is why I watch these things. You can always learn more.
Wow your live room sounds amazing!!!! Great video, love that there is no bullshit filler.
First step to get a good sound for recording
1. Step: buy a Ludwig Supraphonic.
You're done.
Step 2, (optional) make samples from led zep moby dick.
def. a "must bring to session" kind of snare! this video applies to any snare, FYI
How to get a good sound for your kit... Take out a loan or sell your first child...
Acrolite is a fatter sound
LM400 or LM402 is also decent choice.
He is right about the throw-off, I upgraded the p-85 to the p-86 millennium .
Thanks for turning me on to Crowfield. I like his voice. It reminds me of Burton Cummings and he is my favorite vocalist.
You named off a small handful of my friends down here in Charleston that’s really cool man I didn’t know that you were involved with their projects! Thank you for everything you do Mr. Rick!
Outstanding as usual Rick!
Stunning mixes Rick
Very informative. Thank you Rick!
This was very helpful,
thanks Rick!
Thanks Rick! Great information.
Great Video Rick. I love that you covered a lot about the snare drum itself and the value of rim shots vs center hits. That is solid gold advice. I've found the height and angle of the snare to the drummer makes rimshots arrive much more naturally. I've been experimenting with a Yamaha 13x4 maple snare with a frosted pinstripe head. I like the rim shot sound it makes.
great technical tips and nice to hear from your ( recording ) perspective. thx
Thank you so much for your advise sir, it really helps me.
I like how your channel went from music production to more of a, shall I say, music connoisseur channel. That being said, I have purchased your Beato Book, and have learned a lot from your channel, in regards to both aspects. I remember when you reached your first 1M subs, and I look forward to seeing you reach 4M. Cheers!
Excellent vid! I've done a lot of drum tracking and this stuff is spot on.
I dig all your videos, but the one’s you’ve done on drums (how to get a phat bass sound, this one) have been really interesting as a drummer. Love you work!
Lots of great bands in the examples that never released the albums. So sad!! Same thing happened to my band in 2017. Thanks for the great content Rick!
Thank you mr Rick .
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Hitting consistent rim shots is all in the positioning of the snare. The snare should be set so that a well-practiced stroke (like a full Moeller Stroke) always lands as a rim shot. This takes the guess work out of the rim shot allowing the drummer to effortlessly play rim shots (I've been drumming for 18 years). Unfortunately, it's too late to develop this once the drummer is in the studio, but it might be something worth mentioning if the drummer is hitting inconsistent rim shots and doesn't have a fragile ego (yeah, right).
If rim shots are inconsistent in the studio, better to try to convince the drummer to avoid rimshot at all in my opinion. Very delicate matter, highlighting drummer deficiencies during recording can be a session destroyer thing...
Lots of valuable info, thanks!
Most excellent video. You're the best!
Dude. I had a critical comment..but held back cause i luv ur channel. Radio ready is never good. Seriously.
Luv the channel.
Thanks for the share, I will try the two microphones on my snare.
Man you've got amazing records! Great sounds!
This video is badass. Thanks, Rick!
rick! this is amazing!!! thank you!!!!
Thank you for sharing...very interesting
Love the snare on Shinedown track. Also I saw Junp little Children here in charlotte in 97. They were very popular here,. SLAM..great dums! wow.
Great video... Cool you worked with Jump Little Children... They were such a great band.
Watching for he second time Rick great sounds! A lot of tips you give that I already do myself in my studio, the Wow effect on guitars, the attention to detail regarding snare de tuning and tuning it to the song etc nice to know I'm doing some things right! The track by Essex has a little bit of Kings X ''Fool You'' vibe to it.
Very interesting stuff, Rick. Thanks!
Thank you for making videos... Your channel is one of my favorites right now!
By the way, waiting for the day you will make a CLA Drums Mixing Technique!
Andrey Benassi CLA has a tut on AudioLegends.com, and an excerpt on Slate Digital's YT-channel where he mixes a snare.
Certain things I never knew existed as facts! Thanks for the great educational video!
Jump, Little Children...
Man, you just went up even further past the 100% esteem I already had for ya.
Right? They are one of my favorite bands. I heard that and was like wow!
EXCELENT! Thank you
The room sounds great
There’s two kind of drummers, those who hit the drums and those who play the drums. ;)
Great video man, especially 7:30. Gonna go listen to that song now
Great video! Thanks for doing this
Great! Thanks!
your musical depth and breath continues to impress! was enough just playing the larry carlton solo off the steely dan video, but you are all over the map kinda good!
Thanks!!
hey rick...guys in my drum forum are really getting turned onto your drum production studio mic'ing stuff...i think you tapping this internet group will really send your numbers high...and thats a good thing...after watching your video on music schools and how HONEST you were...i was sold! plus your fathering is outstanding...that is most impressive your family...people want success like this...we need cats over 50 to the lead the way...you can have success and a strong family as well...inspiring!
Enjoying your videos immensley!
sounds great brother!
really great !
Informative vid. Another advantage to recording rim shots is the pre amp gain doesn't have to be very high ( relatively speaking) as rimshots are louder than center snare hits. By having the gain lower the hi hat bleed into the snare mic is reduced... always a bonus. Cheers.
finally. somebody who gets indie rock! thanks Rick.
Gotta love indie rock!!
These videos are really well done, thank you for offering such solid advice on a lot of topics! Jealous of that Black Beauty, though I have a 15" Ludwig that really cranks!
Nice demo Rick
Great info
ah hah! bottom miking too. I had tried both separately but not together. Thank you!
thanks Sir Rick. I'll share this link on my fb timeline
Nice mix man!
felt furniture feet can achieve the same effect as Moon Gel and costs pennies comparatively. Great video!
Really enjoying your channel boss
Hi Rick, we're in my place now! Drums and snare work; I tune the bottoms up (tight) and the tops lower. I trained myself to do both and you are so right, rim shots are a task to hit. A good drummer should be able to do both, i don't class myself that high but i can do both and stick control is so important. So to learn I took the classical/jazz route as it was more than demanding to my ears than most rock stuff and pop i thought had now just become the realm of machines and samples. Hal Blaine explained that the snare use should be crisp and definable from anything else and give your own sound individuality. I use Ambassador X and Remo coated. I took the original snare off of a 14" X 6 1/2 " snare (brass) and put on a 40 strand snare and had it looser than before. (this is to emulate Bonzo's 402 Super Ludvig ). Does that make sense to you? But I love it!
Agreed. More (Custom) wires and looser really gets me closer t the sound I want. Drummer hear who really digs this channel
Great work...I am amazed of the productions and the music that you produced...wow, very impressive, massive, open sound...that is something that I would love to achieve someday...Regards!
+Konstantin Raidovski (Raido) Thanks Konstantinos! You know, I got fed up one day when I first started producing because I couldn't get a great snare sound with the drummers Snare
I was using. That's when I went out and purchased my first Snare. I own a bunch of them now that sound great on any recording. That's really the key. It's all about the sound source. Thanks so much! Rick
Wow thanks for sharing that...this is something that I am going through...I have been trying every miking technique that you mentioned plus a few others that I know for years, but I was always relying on the drummers kits, and the sound was not the way that I wanted it in my head...until I changed the kick and the snare during a session with an old Slingerland kick and snare from the seventies that were forgotten in a studio basement. That was a turning point...every time I try this kit against other...it just knock downs any dw, yamaha or whatever modern thing comes for recording. The same thing was with an old vintage Earth bass amplifier...there are things that are made to sit in the mix...:)
If your Lars a large pasta pot is ideal. Ps im not a drummer but I could amuse myself for hours with just that snare sounds so good.
When Rick Beato just casually mentions all the artists he recorded 5:59, and every drum kit sounds absolutely amazing for the song, you realize just how much of a genius he is!
Great stuff man!
I have watched so many of your videos that I am actually starting to sound like you when I teach!
(I have about 50-60 private students, I teach drums bass guitar piano trombone trumpet voice music production theory)
My only funny comment here is that if I quote you directly, it works out that John Bonham grew up listening to Led Zeppelin! LOL
Ps Totally loving the “what makes this song great” series.
So insightful