You're right. There's nothing special in making a Dunnett snare sounds good. I used to have 12 snares and then I bought Dunnett Classic Steel 14x6.5. Soon after I sold 7 other professional quality snares as I've been able to get same sound from the Dunnett. Dunnett's aren't cheap but totally worth the money.
The most important piece of advise I've ever heard anyone give when it comes to playing the drums is, "you play with authority." Authority exudes confidence and is something all great drummers do. They setup the time and groove and do so mechanically without telling any other instrument they are out of time. - a great drummer leaves no openings to fall out of time, forcing everyone to follow their lead. Once everyone else in the band has subjected to that timing and groove, the drummer can jump into 'exploration of additions to melody (so to speak) or fills" - or rather letting the kit talk out and express itself. - again with authority backing the entire compilation. - intentional, subtle to direct but absolutely relative and purposeful. Something highly recommended at band practice is, let the drummer form a groove and listen for a rotation or two before starting in. Do this for the first song or two. - Drummers, get in the habit of warming up before anyone arrives at practice. - Every session will improve and reach perfection if your not warming up throughout practice.
40 yrs ive persisted with an old Drouyn snare, changed heads, wires, couldnt get the sound i wanted, tried everything, thought it was just a shit drum, then followed your 5 tip vid, and bingo, its absolutely poppin, thankyou, you legend.
My thoughts exactly. Not all of us have a gear sponsor like this guy. Learned nothing from this video except that dude enjoys his 2000 dollar snare alot
PLEASE kill the background music. It is very distracting. You're a great teacher but if I can't concentrate on what you are saying or demonstrating then I am wasting my time. Other than that...great video. Thanks!
Jared, you touch on a very good point. Tightening. In my circumstances I several times weekly find myself sitting down on a house kit, carting but a snare, cymbals, stick bag, and kick pedal. And, it seems so very often that the person last playing the kit has tightened (not the snares but) virtually every nut of the hardware beyond reason--very often to a point the longevity of the hardware is being compromised, demanding tool assistance to undo. I perfectly understand the problem is lack of knowledge, not maliciousness or stupidity. Some folk are simply unaware of certain aspects of mechanics. I only point it out in hopes someone with capacity to reach massive numbers of listeners might find opportunity to educate up-and-comers who weren't raised on a farm or other venues that might have shed light on simple mechanics might find occasion to say...?
I always fingertight my lugs once more after I turned (about) 4 lugs! I found this to make a huge difference, can't recommend this enough!! Another tip: one of my teachers once told me that he always does 2 half turns on the batter and 4 half turns on the snare head. Nowadays I almost always start here and then make adjustments to taste, it's a great starting point and often the sound you where looking for.
couple thoughts, first the room you're playing in has a huge difference on how you should pick a head to use and how you should tune it. i play at a church with multiple locations, one of them is basically an old cathedral, super high ceilings, not much sonic dampening basically a horrible room for a live band to play in. another meets in a movie theater, basically the complete opposite, still a huge room but the room is really dead because of all the acoustic panels they have. when i play in the old church i use a head that is really dry and dead, basically the initial attack of the snare and as fast decay as possible. the room takes that dry hit and makes it sound huge. in the movie theater i do the exact opposite. the room is so dead that if i used that same snare sound it just sounds dead and small. there i use a head that rings a lot more and has a lot more character. honestly i'm kinda surprised on how little material there is out there on how to tune drums depending on the room you're playing in. you could take a set that sounds amazing in a small club to a stadium and it would sound terrible, vice versa. ps that snare drum does sound amazing, also what hi-hats are those? i also really like how they sound
I'll be completely honest. I was ready to rag on Jared's tuning based on his older videos on the subject, but this time he actually did a great job, from the tuning pattern to the evenness of the sound to absolutely everything else he covered here. This has been a great watch and a valuable refresher on the topic.
I found a Gretch wooden snare in a dumpster many years ago, it needed some work, so I purchased the parts I needed for it and brought life back into it. It has an amazing sound to it and is still being played after 20 years.
Dude I just got back into drumming back from a time before UA-cam even existing. Had to figure stuff out the hard way back then. Was in a motorcycle accident and shattered both legs and ankles and took years of surgeries and rehab to relearn to walk properly. I’m originally a guitar player and did nothing but in that time period as well as a terrible pill addiction. It is very challenging drumming with fused ankles but I’m killing it! Really enjoy your vids my man.
Those are the best kind, lol. I haven't seen this snare. I'm imagining $$$$$. My favorite is the Ludwig 402, the big one. 2nd favorite if I want a trashy sound, is the Sonor Martini snare. With an old 71 Imperialstar, and 900 series cymbals with AAX hats, you now have a worthy contender for about....1,600 new w/ better heads (it all went to cymbals, and that assumes the kick was free with new 30.00 hydraulic head) Not my favorites ever, but of what I have. DW makes a nice deep snare and I like the Chad Smith one I saw even tho Guitar Center had it strangled to marching band snare tension.
OMG! Thank you a lot! I've tried your tips to killer snare drum and I'm so excited of that sound! 🙉 Now I have the best sound of my snare I've ever had! Thank you!
Yes, the number one thing I've seen that REALLY brings a snare drum to life is tuning the bottom head tight, just not to where it chokes or anything else bad happens. I actually had a head's film pull out of the collar once years ago mid song from over tensioning! Thankfully it was just playing in my room and not in church or any other live situation, hahaha.
I found my old Pearl kit from the 90’s at a yard sale a few years ago. Before i could ask how much he wanted i sat and played it. He replied he’d never heard it sound so good before and no longer wanted to sell it! I was so upset that he wouldn’t sell it that he just gave me an old 80’s Montoya acoustic guitar he was also selling that i wanted. Supra odd but I still have that acoustic and it sounds magnificent! I also left a rare 80’s Pearl snare from when i was 9 at my old collectables shop i shared with someone and never returned to grab it. I used it as just decoration and the guy i shared my shop with was asked everyday by someone to buy it but i wasn’t selling it ,so i figure it prob sold the day after i left ;.(… Hopefully i can find my old kit at a fair price someday. My old Westone and Washburn too woukd be nice! I’d pay anything today to have them back! Guitar wall is on my chan! New Drum kit vid coming soon!
To get my snare sound I use the drum dial pressure tuner. I do this not because I can't tune without it BUT because I like it to be perfect. Depending on the snare size and wood I tune to around 90psi on the batter head and will usually tune the bottom head to around the same or slightly higher. Once again drum size and material depends on the number but roughly 90. As you mention in the video the WAY you play the drum really matters. Rimshots will give a defined sound which I love! So I got good at them. Also where you hit the drum. Some drummers I've met hit slightly off center for a reason - to get a defined sound. Rimshots are my fav and go to but that's just my two cents.
This is what I'm looking for. The wire's grip on how tighten it should be, and the hand workout on how I hit the snare and so on... Thank you for sharing this video. Because of this, I finally found the masterpiece to determine whether I do this drumming correctly or not. Thank you and Godbless.
I recently fitted an Attack No Overtone head to one of my steel snare drums and it sounds great. Low to medium tuning gives a nice attack with a very short overtone. Aquarian Satin Fiish Coated head on another. Tuned up high makes it sing. Great vids guys. All your tips are helpful 👍
Love these vids Jared!!! I was here since the beginning of this channel. I was around 5 and was getting into drums. Now I am 14 and I keep coming back to this channel. By the way you teached me how to tune my drums. I have been rocking a Mapex Mars Crossover since I was 5 or around there. Love your vids Jared!!
The ringing of the drum might sound weird for new drummers, especially with lower quality equipment. BUT: You do not hear that ring in the final mix of a demo or a stage performance. You'd have to willingly crank that up (like Lars' snare on "St. Anger") to hear it. So don't worry too much about it if you hear the ringing during dry drum practice. It's how a drum is supposed to sound.
A very nice head from Evans HD Dry, gives it a nice not dry but a HD Dry sound and it even has tiny vented holes around the top head which takes out overtones.
I used the Evan's HD Dry for a few years but then money was tight for while and I started using the Evans Genera HD and found I really preferred it cause it's got more tone IF you want it. If you dont you can easily dial it back and make it dryer with a little tuning finesse. The only difference between those 2 heads other than price is the vent holes. And those vent holes are really just drying out the sound and that takes away from the tonal versatility. And you're paying extra for that lol! I highly recommend just getting the Genera HD. It's really easy to dial in if you want it a little dryer. It took me about one practice session to get the hang of controlling the extra tone. It's not like the difference between an EC2 (clear) and a coated head.
Having more than one snare is a great idea. Certain snares suit certain genres. My fav I've used personally as I could tune it to the point my eyes blink every crack and could almost shatter glass haha. The mapex black panther steel picollo . Not silly money by any means but the pitch and sound I got from that snare was near perfection for me. I was playing mostly hardcore or mathcore bands. Every drummer I met always asked what the snare was and always surprised when I told them. Snare sound is subjective what I like you might hate and vice versa. It's awesome fun experimenting ✌️
Thank you for sharing these important snare tunning tips. It will definetly help me get a great sound. Also, I appreciate your understanding that even though we have some basic rules as a drummer, like the important fundementals of making sure we are hitting the drum correctly, keeping the correct tempo (bpm), solid beat and more.......I'm glad you reckonize that we as drummers are the backbone and we are artists. We can say that a good drummer has skill and talent. However, you shared one of the most important things a drummer must have, and that is when we sit on our throne we must learn to be confident and for me, stay relaxed and focused, I don't think I play well when I tighten up and I push play instead of playing within. Thankfully, I continue to learn and BE teachable, which you demonstated. As musicians, each one of us has some, alot, or little creativity. That is the great thing about drummers, we can unite, help each other, learn and improve. Uniting is a plus for all of us. However, we as musicains are creative and have freedom. That's what I love about playing music, we are all different and I admit that unity helps us but I remind myself not to get caught up in uniformatey. Could you imagine if we all played the drums the same exact way. Thanks for the tips and the encouragement and I've been accumilating some instruments as I hope to open a studio with all the needed intsruments and a good location in order to get children 10 yrs old and up to 99yrs of age. Opportumity to allow those who don't have a place to play, or those who want to learn and play music. If you have any tips or ideas regarding a studio/bldg. or anything that I shared I would appreciate some feedback, ideas and anything I can digest to help spread the opportunity. Thank you !
Just a couple points I’d like to make about this video. First, that single handed ghost roll was killer Jared, I’ve never seen anyone do that before. Second, what you were calling a rim shot, I call a gawk. I have no formal training and I’m probably not in the right. But, what I call a rim shot in laying the stick down flat and hitting the rim county style. Also some people call a rimshot is the lick you’ll hear after a joke. Ba dum dum splash! Y’all know what I mean. Anyway, good content guys I enjoy it!
He did a Fabulous Job explaining how to get a good to great Snare sound there are many more details he could have gotten into, I know this because he is a consummate Professional but he hit the high points terrific
Get a TAMA Lars Ulrich snare for a killer snare sound!! Thank you Drumeo for all you do for someone like me that has a passion for all things drums. I love everything you do for the drumming community. i would love to take a tour of your facility some day.
Just want to clarify, Metallica is my all time favorite band,, and nothing I say is sarcastic. I truly believe the TAMA Lars Ulrich Snare sounds incredible.
Forgive my terrible manners earlier for failing to also say that I am going to follow your tips when I finally get myself a kit in the next couple of months - I know, I know, a kit is for life, not just for Christmas!😀 Thanks for the lessons
1st kit? I'd say, Sakae Pac-D. It's a full kit. It's only downside is kick pedal. Could have a slightly boomier kick. But hard to bypass for 644.00. Cymbals will kill you, but at least you don't have to buy hardware. I like the jellybeans: the 900 Paiste series and AAX high hat. Which cost a fortune, BUT if you take care of them, they will last forever. They're all very sharp, so use hearing protection. If you break sticks or have wood bit everywhere, you are doing it wrong. Use the tips, not the shoulder to hit as often as possible. Make it level/parallel to itself so stuff doesn't break.
TightSqueeze Jam at FB we’ll thank you sir for taking the time to give me some tips 😀 I don’t think I have access to that kit here in the UK and I haven’t even heard of it! You are right about the cymbals - always the most expensive investment. I did have a kit in my youth, but I did know what I was looking for back then. I don’t need anything big or flashy, just a tone I like.
I like to use the Evan’s drum key that is like a torque wrench. Whatever tension you like, you can always return the drum back to your setting. Also I use a drum tuning app to get the top and bottom head to work properly together.My snare sound is killer 🪖🥁🤘🔥
I 'm not new on drumeo, but this is first time i've seen how Jared playing drums. Maaan, this is amazing) If you will smile more then playing - it wil not only sound realy good, but will look so too.
I can see here your recent studies with bruce : your playing and touch is way better and also your hands started to change in posture and positioning..you are on the right path, great playing man! Btw thanks for what DRUMEO does for the community
Thank you so much, Marco. I learned a lot from Bruce and the other awesome drummers we have at Drumeo. I am constantly using the Drumeo website for lessons and think you all should too :-)
I wish you guys would go over the production part again of how youre recording,treatment ot the tracks, mics used, preamps..and how your room plays a role and treatment also. I remember catching a video of that when the channel was still fairly newish,and I'd like to see whats different now that you guys have upgraded,and more experince. By the way, those drums are sounding pretty damn good!!
#4 is one thing I won't be doing! That hanging ring is actually my goal, and I'm trying to find ways to maximize it. Right now, I'm having a little bit of difficulty getting more precise snare response. I just recently played around a bit on a drum set other than mine for the first time since I started playing 8 years ago, and I noted that its snare had _much_ better ghost note response than mine does.
ILikeWafflz I aim for max resonance as well, especially when I'm playing with no mics. I don't think many people realize how different the kit sounds from 5, 10, 20 feet away. When you kill all the overtones without mics, I think that makes the drums sound terrible to the listener.
I love this session because it indicates very important technique for tuning the snare drum. Watched this like a couple three times and I have a question, what do you have say about adding patches or sticking to get a different sound?
i personally love Tre Cools snare sounds, most specifically on 21st century breakdown and revolution radio, on the newer side. I did a lot of reading about how they recorded it, they use a telefunken m80 on top, it has a really clear sound, they use a few different things on the bottom, but it would be cool to hear you test those out
Good video! I prefer tuning my snare with the Mashoff-method on the batter head. It has more flexibility to me, as I can better control the overtones and pitch of the snare. Can turn your snare from dry rock to a solid pop sound within seconds.
Youd really be surprised by the amount of people i see who don't know how to do a rimshot. To me thst was one of the first things I taught myself by accident 15 years ago. The rimshot brings out the flavour of the snare where you can taste it in your ears and brain.
My snare is basically a gimmick (DDrum Diablo with camo fabric), with crooked lugs. When i bought it second hand, it had a worn down batter head and crooked hoops, basically destroying the snareside. There are cuts and dents in the kettle. I actually should not have made the deal that i made that day with the bicycle fixer of a second hand drum store owner. (Also bought a worn out DW pedal with the guy. I should be abled to not make these mistakes again). Anyway. That gimmick kettle sounds pretty sweet after a little work and experience with tuning. What i do is putting the snareside ultra tight, as close to 432 hertz as you can. Thats is the old orchestra tuning. It helps a bit to prevent snare sizzle when you wanna screw around with the sound of the rest of the kit. Then i tune the batter to whatever they measured Danny Carey's snare. Its about 196-197 hertz. I use the Evans red hydraulic batter head and a 300 snareside. The hydro makes a warmer sound but it can really turn into a canon. Its got a long ping and even sharper as a rimshot. It can sound like a Lars drum but groovy, just off tone and dark. When you don't want the ping, just put on a slapklatz or a sound ring. Tuning the snare is feeling, hearing and making sure the whole kit is in tune so your snares never get rattled while hitting another drum than your snare. And like wheel truing, it takes a lot of time to master. I am right now on 80 percent of wheelbuilding mastery but just on 10 percent of understanding drum tuning. Check out how Thomas Lang slaps the skins on, sits on drum to tighten and then spends 20 minutes looking for the sound all by ear. That is pretty quick and it still sounds amazing. I spend hours tuning and trying to understand how it actually works and how to get the same thunder every time you start over. Yes a lot of failure and then all of a sudden it hits the window. And then go back to understand why it does what it does. In the end i make cheap dented drums sound like a canon. It's nice and it keeps your brain active.
great tuning i love the background music as a drummer one needs to be able to differentiate between different sounds,if a person is complaining about background music i do not expect the drummer to be able to hear ghost notes.
I've been tuning drums since about the age of 10. While my 1960's Ludwig Supraphonic sounds good, it lacks the "magic" I've heard on other snare drums. I heard a 13" Mapex Black Panther Birch, unmic'd/live, and my friend and I looked at each other like "WTF!". That thing sounded incredible. I've heard Yamahas, DWs, Tamas, and they sound good, but what is it that makes a snare reach that "magical" sound? I had a friend who owned a Gretsch snare from the 60's. It had this odd support rod running through the middle. That thing sounded awesome! He changed the snare heads and it never sounded the same. Makes me think snare heads have sweet spot that do something special for each drum.
One tip I would add is how you position your snare. I used to play mine at a 75• angle because any photo or videos of my idols had it set that way. When I saw Buddy Rich play his snare angled away from him and Travis Barker do the same, I tried that and it blew my mind.
Huh! I pretty much do the same thing. And I do loose a bit the snares, so that they have room for vibration - that's what they add to the sound. But something important I learned over the years is that if you dislike this ringing, you may need to tune your heads so they create a harmony. Also, if you get this annoying ring when hitting the center of the head, some lug may be unequally tightened, and vibrate differently.
Honestly I just tune by ear and find what works for me. I have a supraphonic, and it can be pretty forgiving and flexible with its tuning, so that make my job a little easier. I’ve kept stock heads and snares for a while and I’m loving their sound. I basically never dampen, but if I do then I’ll just throw my wallet or phone on there and it sounds great
Preferably I hate and really hate dry snares!😂 Ahhhhhh! They just can’t cut enough for me. Remo Controlled sound X on my snare or remo ambassadors or even Remo power strokes are great snare heads! But it’s all personal preference! Great video you guys! It helped me learn something new!
Been playing for 40 years and as there is some truth that you can get many sounds from one snare..it should have been noted that each and every drum has a "sweet spot" where it is "meant" to be sonically for the best sound for the wood,metal/depth and so on. Fighting that will yield some results but also choke the natural resonance of the drum.
A good reference I use for tuning the snare to a good rock sound is Led Zep Moby Dick studio version. During the solo, after the bass drum's -""uh-1" then the snare - "bum, bum-bum-ba-bum"..Bonzo has the snares off and hits with his hands. The snare is tuned to G#. That's a great starting point. If you like it a little higher & brighter, you can always tune up, but that always seems to work fine.
Great video! The tips were all helpful and concise. I somewhat agree with other comments on the music. If the music were quieter in the background I would be fine with it. Everything else is great!
This would have been perfect opportunity to do this with a classic “trash can snare,” which are owned by the majority. Most people have the basic kit and don’t have that nice snare. You even proved it by having the top head extremely lose, and it still sounded damn good! Not so with the basic el-cheapo, snare. Anyways, other than that major issue I have, the rest of the steps are great tips.
(Pannemat , LOL ! ) I just watched you do what i always do when tuning my snare . I also have the large snare wires on one of my snare drums , its a 14×8 bubinga.. love your playing and your channel , God bless
A drum sound is very dependent upon the room the drums are in and from where you are listening. Unfortunately one of the worst places to listen to the true sound of a drum is where the drummer sits. Not much you can do about that. Personally I love the older snares. I have accumulated 5 snares over the past 40 years that dare from the 1930s to the 1950s. Leedy, Slingerland and Ludwig. My personal favourite is a 1929 Ludwig Super Sensitive. Untouchable!
Yes, I totally agree. So basically, the first sound was him not tightening the snare drum as much as he wanted? I should make a mental note for the next time I tune a snare drum.
Conviction Authority Confidence. That is my big takeaway here. Thanks. My practice space is in a conservatory and my neighbours can see in and definitely listen in so my confidence plummets as I am so aware of their presence. But stick on a pair of ear defenders and I can’t hear as much so I get that confidence boost to play properly instead of tickling the drums and getting terrible sounds out.
You should do this video again with a lesser quality snare drum if you haven’t already. The fact this snare in it’s basic lose setting still sounded fantastic can be off putting for people watching who may be playing with a very beginner snare drum or something mid level.
Great video. What I have discovered is that when some people say their drums do not sound good, it is because of their vantage point. What do you here behind the kit and in front of the kit or two different things.
About "how you hit the drums": I found that if you dont hit the snare in the middle, you will get more of the ringing. The more you get to the middle of the head, the less it rings. I moved the snare a bit so I hit it in the middle "naturally" and it's way better now.
Used the principle he taught on a cheap "traps" 12" snare that comes with the kit. I had to replace the batter with a remo pinstripe and was able to achieve an expensive sounding snare. In addition, i replaced my 20" bass batter head with a remo premuffled powermax (used for marching bands), plus a very few cloth to touch the resonant heads and it sounded deep and punchy, only that it doesn't achieve a volume comparable to the regular ones.
I actually learned to play the saxophone watching this vid!
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lol, I learned about the drum ;-)
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I get it
Great video, but may I suggest using cheap drums for these tuning videos, so you can demonstrate how good you can make drums.
Agreed...we don't all have high end killer snares!
Lol right? I found mine in my friends garage
Lol I do... I got a 72 premier 2000
You're right. There's nothing special in making a Dunnett snare sounds good. I used to have 12 snares and then I bought Dunnett Classic Steel 14x6.5. Soon after I sold 7 other professional quality snares as I've been able to get same sound from the Dunnett. Dunnett's aren't cheap but totally worth the money.
Also, for people with a lower budget.
1 tip for making snare sound videos - Don't play background music when you're showing how to pitch match the lugs.
Other than that, great video!
Noted. You do not like the background music. Thanks for commenting!
Fred stop being so cocky!!! The music is like barely hearable.
audible*
They just can’t record voice properly, so they have to add some music, otherwise we will hear it.
I thought playing 80’s porn music was one of the tips.
The most important piece of advise I've ever heard anyone give when it comes to playing the drums is, "you play with authority." Authority exudes confidence and is something all great drummers do. They setup the time and groove and do so mechanically without telling any other instrument they are out of time. - a great drummer leaves no openings to fall out of time, forcing everyone to follow their lead. Once everyone else in the band has subjected to that timing and groove, the drummer can jump into 'exploration of additions to melody (so to speak) or fills" - or rather letting the kit talk out and express itself. - again with authority backing the entire compilation. - intentional, subtle to direct but absolutely relative and purposeful. Something highly recommended at band practice is, let the drummer form a groove and listen for a rotation or two before starting in. Do this for the first song or two. - Drummers, get in the habit of warming up before anyone arrives at practice. - Every session will improve and reach perfection if your not warming up throughout practice.
Great observation. On a side note, I don’t think I’ve ever heard a drummer play with more authority than Ginger Baker.
@@gringochuchathe most Authoritarian Ginger Baker 🥁😢
Jared has gotten a lot better. Like, totally noticeably better.
Hey thanks a lot, that makes me feel good. Still lots more work to do though.
I guess learning first hand from the worlds greatest drummers every week does help
Borisz Kantor lol
Yeah...can't imagine having Bernard Purdue showing me in person how he does the Purdue shuffle...I would shit my pants and not sleep for days! lol...
came here to say this
How to make a Dunnett Titanium Snare sound killer: put the heads on it.
I am not a drummer but i usually tune and set up my friend's drums and your videos have helped me a ton,keep it up!(Also now i want drums even more 😁)
What a good friend
40 yrs ive persisted with an old Drouyn snare, changed heads, wires, couldnt get the sound i wanted, tried everything, thought it was just a shit drum, then followed your 5 tip vid, and bingo, its absolutely poppin, thankyou, you legend.
2 tips for great snare drum sound:
1. Use a $2000 snare
2. Use a $2000 mic
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3. smash the tone with eq and compression
Tune or mic the drum incorrectly, it will still sound like shit.
@@00_JK_00 r/woosh
@@YellowLAVA I learned something today.
My thoughts exactly.
Not all of us have a gear sponsor like this guy. Learned nothing from this video except that dude enjoys his 2000 dollar snare alot
#1. Get a Dunette snare
I've got a George Way snare, so I'm kinda there, haha. It's a pretty great sounding snare too, sound good tuned low or high.
PLEASE kill the background music. It is very distracting. You're a great teacher but if I can't concentrate on what you are saying or demonstrating then I am wasting my time. Other than that...great video. Thanks!
We do not advocate or condone murder but we can turn it down or off for future videos.
"background" music isn't distracting to the normal population. that's why they called it what they did.
Normal population? This is an instructional channel not an elevator.
@@DrumeoOfficial english is not my native language, but i feel allright with the music and other sounds, maybe i'm too drummed))
i didnt notice it till i read your comment
Jared, you touch on a very good point. Tightening. In my circumstances I several times weekly find myself sitting down on a house kit, carting but a snare, cymbals, stick bag, and kick pedal. And, it seems so very often that the person last playing the kit has tightened (not the snares but) virtually every nut of the hardware beyond reason--very often to a point the longevity of the hardware is being compromised, demanding tool assistance to undo. I perfectly understand the problem is lack of knowledge, not maliciousness or stupidity. Some folk are simply unaware of certain aspects of mechanics. I only point it out in hopes someone with capacity to reach massive numbers of listeners might find opportunity to educate up-and-comers who weren't raised on a farm or other venues that might have shed light on simple mechanics might find occasion to say...?
I always fingertight my lugs once more after I turned (about) 4 lugs! I found this to make a huge difference, can't recommend this enough!!
Another tip: one of my teachers once told me that he always does 2 half turns on the batter and 4 half turns on the snare head. Nowadays I almost always start here and then make adjustments to taste, it's a great starting point and often the sound you where looking for.
couple thoughts, first the room you're playing in has a huge difference on how you should pick a head to use and how you should tune it. i play at a church with multiple locations, one of them is basically an old cathedral, super high ceilings, not much sonic dampening basically a horrible room for a live band to play in. another meets in a movie theater, basically the complete opposite, still a huge room but the room is really dead because of all the acoustic panels they have. when i play in the old church i use a head that is really dry and dead, basically the initial attack of the snare and as fast decay as possible. the room takes that dry hit and makes it sound huge. in the movie theater i do the exact opposite. the room is so dead that if i used that same snare sound it just sounds dead and small. there i use a head that rings a lot more and has a lot more character. honestly i'm kinda surprised on how little material there is out there on how to tune drums depending on the room you're playing in. you could take a set that sounds amazing in a small club to a stadium and it would sound terrible, vice versa.
ps that snare drum does sound amazing, also what hi-hats are those? i also really like how they sound
Why is there porn music in the background of this vid?
cal Because they're filming a porno just off camera.
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Spend some quality time with your drumkit if you know what I mean
@T Scott 90's :D
Lol
I'll be completely honest. I was ready to rag on Jared's tuning based on his older videos on the subject, but this time he actually did a great job, from the tuning pattern to the evenness of the sound to absolutely everything else he covered here. This has been a great watch and a valuable refresher on the topic.
I found a Gretch wooden snare in a dumpster many years ago, it needed some work, so I purchased the parts I needed for it and brought life back into it. It has an amazing sound to it and is still being played after 20 years.
I like the sound of that kit. It seems really a really pure tone without a lot of ringing. The kick sounds killer.
Dude I just got back into drumming back from a time before UA-cam even existing. Had to figure stuff out the hard way back then. Was in a motorcycle accident and shattered both legs and ankles and took years of surgeries and rehab to relearn to walk properly. I’m originally a guitar player and did nothing but in that time period as well as a terrible pill addiction. It is very challenging drumming with fused ankles but I’m killing it! Really enjoy your vids my man.
This taught me nothing but I need to dish out money for an expensive snare I can't afford.
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You would really have to go out of your way to make that snare sound bad lol
Those are the best kind, lol.
I haven't seen this snare. I'm imagining $$$$$.
My favorite is the Ludwig 402, the big one. 2nd favorite if I want a trashy sound, is the Sonor Martini snare. With an old 71 Imperialstar, and 900 series cymbals with AAX hats, you now have a worthy contender for about....1,600 new w/ better heads (it all went to cymbals, and that assumes the kick was free with new 30.00 hydraulic head)
Not my favorites ever, but of what I have. DW makes a nice deep snare and I like the Chad Smith one I saw even tho Guitar Center had it strangled to marching band snare tension.
@@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 just a quick 1200 for the dennet snare...
OMG! Thank you a lot! I've tried your tips to killer snare drum and I'm so excited of that sound! 🙉 Now I have the best sound of my snare I've ever had! Thank you!
Yes, the number one thing I've seen that REALLY brings a snare drum to life is tuning the bottom head tight, just not to where it chokes or anything else bad happens. I actually had a head's film pull out of the collar once years ago mid song from over tensioning! Thankfully it was just playing in my room and not in church or any other live situation, hahaha.
I’ve played drums my entire life and I have some hand speed but sir your speed and precision is stunning.
I found my old Pearl kit from the 90’s at a yard sale a few years ago.
Before i could ask how much he wanted i sat and played it.
He replied he’d never heard it sound so good before and no longer wanted to sell it!
I was so upset that he wouldn’t sell it that he just gave me an old 80’s Montoya acoustic guitar he was also selling that i wanted.
Supra odd but I still have that acoustic and it sounds magnificent!
I also left a rare 80’s Pearl snare from when i was 9 at my old collectables shop i shared with someone and never returned to grab it.
I used it as just decoration and the guy i shared my shop with was asked everyday by someone to buy it but i wasn’t selling it ,so i figure it prob sold the day after i left ;.(…
Hopefully i can find my old kit at a fair price someday.
My old Westone and Washburn too woukd be nice!
I’d pay anything today to have them back!
Guitar wall is on my chan!
New Drum kit vid coming soon!
To get my snare sound I use the drum dial pressure tuner. I do this not because I can't tune without it BUT because I like it to be perfect. Depending on the snare size and wood I tune to around 90psi on the batter head and will usually tune the bottom head to around the same or slightly higher. Once again drum size and material depends on the number but roughly 90. As you mention in the video the WAY you play the drum really matters. Rimshots will give a defined sound which I love! So I got good at them. Also where you hit the drum. Some drummers I've met hit slightly off center for a reason - to get a defined sound. Rimshots are my fav and go to but that's just my two cents.
Keith Bachand I use one of them, also.
I personally enjoyed the shopping music in the background. :)
This is what I'm looking for.
The wire's grip on how tighten it should be,
and the hand workout on how I hit the snare and so on...
Thank you for sharing this video.
Because of this, I finally found the masterpiece to determine whether I do this drumming correctly or not.
Thank you and Godbless.
The key to a good sounding drumset is a good sounding snare, awesome video!!
I recently fitted an Attack No Overtone head to one of my steel snare drums and it sounds great. Low to medium tuning gives a nice attack with a very short overtone.
Aquarian Satin Fiish Coated head on another. Tuned up high makes it sing.
Great vids guys. All your tips are helpful 👍
Perfect opportunity to show off 2:14. You're amazing Jared.
This helps a lot because I always complain about my snare sound like crap
Love these vids Jared!!! I was here since the beginning of this channel. I was around 5 and was getting into drums. Now I am 14 and I keep coming back to this channel. By the way you teached me how to tune my drums. I have been rocking a Mapex Mars Crossover since I was 5 or around there.
Love your vids Jared!!
Lmao ur username bruh
The ringing of the drum might sound weird for new drummers, especially with lower quality equipment. BUT: You do not hear that ring in the final mix of a demo or a stage performance. You'd have to willingly crank that up (like Lars' snare on "St. Anger") to hear it. So don't worry too much about it if you hear the ringing during dry drum practice. It's how a drum is supposed to sound.
Nice snare drum sound, but the real MVP is that bass drum, I think the best one in drumeo so far
i dare you to keep the beard
That's a gorgeous kit you have as avatar, is it yours?
Jens Harald no it’s eric hernandez’ of bruno mars
Am I the only one that likes the dry crack of a piccolo snare anymore?
Yes
I’ve got a deadly stave piccolo snare. Thing cracks like lightening
"Sound like 10, 20, even 30 different snare drums?"
WHAT are you smoking?
Not at the same time
Lmao apparently he didnt get the multi drum memo
The elevator music triggered a violent seizure....cheers...
Sex in elevator music.
A very nice head from Evans HD Dry, gives it a nice not dry but a HD Dry sound and it even has tiny vented holes around the top head which takes out overtones.
Favorite snare head ever!
J.Olliee Mann my favorite snare drumhead as well
Nothing wrong with overtones....
I LOVE that Evans Genera Dry head! (My preferred head.)
I used the Evan's HD Dry for a few years but then money was tight for while and I started using the Evans Genera HD and found I really preferred it cause it's got more tone IF you want it. If you dont you can easily dial it back and make it dryer with a little tuning finesse. The only difference between those 2 heads other than price is the vent holes. And those vent holes are really just drying out the sound and that takes away from the tonal versatility. And you're paying extra for that lol! I highly recommend just getting the Genera HD. It's really easy to dial in if you want it a little dryer. It took me about one practice session to get the hang of controlling the extra tone. It's not like the difference between an EC2 (clear) and a coated head.
Having more than one snare is a great idea. Certain snares suit certain genres. My fav I've used personally as I could tune it to the point my eyes blink every crack and could almost shatter glass haha. The mapex black panther steel picollo . Not silly money by any means but the pitch and sound I got from that snare was near perfection for me. I was playing mostly hardcore or mathcore bands. Every drummer I met always asked what the snare was and always surprised when I told them. Snare sound is subjective what I like you might hate and vice versa. It's awesome fun experimenting ✌️
I'm a guitarist, but I was impressed with your one handed rolls at 4:30.
Thank you for sharing these important snare tunning tips. It will definetly help me get a great sound. Also, I appreciate
your understanding that even though we have some basic rules as a drummer, like the important fundementals of making sure we are hitting the drum correctly, keeping the correct tempo (bpm), solid beat and more.......I'm glad you reckonize that we as drummers are the backbone and we are artists. We can say that a good drummer has skill and talent. However, you shared one of the most important things a drummer must have, and that is when we sit on our throne we must learn to be confident and for me, stay relaxed and focused, I don't think I play well when I tighten up and I push play instead of playing within. Thankfully, I continue to learn and BE teachable, which you demonstated.
As musicians, each one of us has some, alot, or little creativity. That is the great thing about drummers, we can unite, help each other, learn and improve. Uniting is a plus for all of us. However, we as musicains are creative and have freedom. That's what I love about playing music, we are all different and I admit that unity helps us but I remind myself not to get caught up in uniformatey. Could you imagine if we all played the drums the same exact way. Thanks for the tips and the encouragement and I've been accumilating some instruments as I hope to open a studio with all the needed intsruments and a good location in order to get children 10 yrs old and up to 99yrs of age. Opportumity to allow those who don't have a place to play, or those who want to learn and play music. If you have any tips or ideas regarding a studio/bldg. or anything that I shared I would appreciate some feedback, ideas and anything I can digest to help spread the opportunity. Thank you !
Tune at 2:07 is good enough for me. Really nice
I really love learning from you Jared Falk!❤
Mmmmmmm that snare... Great video! Also sick groove at 2:15, those kick doubles are tasty, man
Just a couple points I’d like to make about this video. First, that single handed ghost roll was killer Jared, I’ve never seen anyone do that before. Second, what you were calling a rim shot, I call a gawk. I have no formal training and I’m probably not in the right. But, what I call a rim shot in laying the stick down flat and hitting the rim county style. Also some people call a rimshot is the lick you’ll hear after a joke. Ba dum dum splash! Y’all know what I mean. Anyway, good content guys I enjoy it!
Jared is seriously one of my top 5 favorite drummers!
Reebok Pump!!! I love them!!!
He did a Fabulous Job explaining how to get a good to great Snare sound there are many more details he could have gotten into, I know this because he is a consummate Professional but he hit the high points terrific
Get a TAMA Lars Ulrich snare for a killer snare sound!! Thank you Drumeo for all you do for someone like me that has a passion for all things drums. I love everything you do for the drumming community. i would love to take a tour of your facility some day.
I don’t know if that was meant to be sarcasm, but I actually use that particular snare and it’s amazing!!
@@MattSchreck Which one? the bell brass or the diamond plate? I use the diamond plate for live shows and it sounds pretty good!
Definitely not sarcasm, I personally own one and love it. I’m also driving six hours from Colorado to Salt Lake to see them on Friday.
Just want to clarify, Metallica is my all time favorite band,, and nothing I say is sarcastic. I truly believe the TAMA Lars Ulrich Snare sounds incredible.
Forgive my terrible manners earlier for failing to also say that I am going to follow your tips when I finally get myself a kit in the next couple of months - I know, I know, a kit is for life, not just for Christmas!😀 Thanks for the lessons
1st kit? I'd say, Sakae Pac-D. It's a full kit. It's only downside is kick pedal. Could have a slightly boomier kick. But hard to bypass for 644.00.
Cymbals will kill you, but at least you don't have to buy hardware. I like the jellybeans: the 900 Paiste series and AAX high hat. Which cost a fortune, BUT if you take care of them, they will last forever.
They're all very sharp, so use hearing protection.
If you break sticks or have wood bit everywhere, you are doing it wrong. Use the tips, not the shoulder to hit as often as possible. Make it level/parallel to itself so stuff doesn't break.
TightSqueeze Jam at FB we’ll thank you sir for taking the time to give me some tips 😀 I don’t think I have access to that kit here in the UK and I haven’t even heard of it! You are right about the cymbals - always the most expensive investment. I did have a kit in my youth, but I did know what I was looking for back then. I don’t need anything big or flashy, just a tone I like.
Hey Jared. I put some wide snare wires on my 6 1/2 x 14 maple snare. Holy smokes, what a difference!!! Thank you!
I like to use the Evan’s drum key that is like a torque wrench. Whatever tension you like, you can always return the drum back to your setting. Also I use a drum tuning app to get the top and bottom head to work properly together.My snare sound is killer 🪖🥁🤘🔥
loving the little animations and close ups in this video!
Jarod, thank you for breaking it down and showing how it's done!!
I tried this technique to my snare and it sounds better than ever
I 'm not new on drumeo, but this is first time i've seen how Jared playing drums. Maaan, this is amazing) If you will smile more then playing - it wil not only sound realy good, but will look so too.
I can see here your recent studies with bruce : your playing and touch is way better and also your hands started to change in posture and positioning..you are on the right path, great playing man! Btw thanks for what DRUMEO does for the community
Thank you so much, Marco. I learned a lot from Bruce and the other awesome drummers we have at Drumeo. I am constantly using the Drumeo website for lessons and think you all should too :-)
"TIGHT" is the most appropriate word for the background music.
I wish you guys would go over the production part again of how youre recording,treatment ot the tracks, mics used, preamps..and how your room plays a role and treatment also. I remember catching a video of that when the channel was still fairly newish,and I'd like to see whats different now that you guys have upgraded,and more experince. By the way, those drums are sounding pretty damn good!!
#4 is one thing I won't be doing! That hanging ring is actually my goal, and I'm trying to find ways to maximize it.
Right now, I'm having a little bit of difficulty getting more precise snare response. I just recently played around a bit on a drum set other than mine for the first time since I started playing 8 years ago, and I noted that its snare had _much_ better ghost note response than mine does.
ILikeWafflz I aim for max resonance as well, especially when I'm playing with no mics. I don't think many people realize how different the kit sounds from 5, 10, 20 feet away. When you kill all the overtones without mics, I think that makes the drums sound terrible to the listener.
Great sounding snare tuning, Jared you are a very good drummer and teacher !
I love this session because it indicates very important technique for tuning the snare drum. Watched this like a couple three times and I have a question, what do you have say about adding patches or sticking to get a different sound?
i personally love Tre Cools snare sounds, most specifically on 21st century breakdown and revolution radio, on the newer side. I did a lot of reading about how they recorded it, they use a telefunken m80 on top, it has a really clear sound, they use a few different things on the bottom, but it would be cool to hear you test those out
Good video! I prefer tuning my snare with the Mashoff-method on the batter head. It has more flexibility to me, as I can better control the overtones and pitch of the snare. Can turn your snare from dry rock to a solid pop sound within seconds.
Youd really be surprised by the amount of people i see who don't know how to do a rimshot. To me thst was one of the first things I taught myself by accident 15 years ago. The rimshot brings out the flavour of the snare where you can taste it in your ears and brain.
My snare is basically a gimmick (DDrum Diablo with camo fabric), with crooked lugs. When i bought it second hand, it had a worn down batter head and crooked hoops, basically destroying the snareside. There are cuts and dents in the kettle. I actually should not have made the deal that i made that day with the bicycle fixer of a second hand drum store owner. (Also bought a worn out DW pedal with the guy. I should be abled to not make these mistakes again).
Anyway. That gimmick kettle sounds pretty sweet after a little work and experience with tuning.
What i do is putting the snareside ultra tight, as close to 432 hertz as you can. Thats is the old orchestra tuning. It helps a bit to prevent snare sizzle when you wanna screw around with the sound of the rest of the kit. Then i tune the batter to whatever they measured Danny Carey's snare. Its about 196-197 hertz. I use the Evans red hydraulic batter head and a 300 snareside.
The hydro makes a warmer sound but it can really turn into a canon. Its got a long ping and even sharper as a rimshot. It can sound like a Lars drum but groovy, just off tone and dark. When you don't want the ping, just put on a slapklatz or a sound ring. Tuning the snare is feeling, hearing and making sure the whole kit is in tune so your snares never get rattled while hitting another drum than your snare. And like wheel truing, it takes a lot of time to master. I am right now on 80 percent of wheelbuilding mastery but just on 10 percent of understanding drum tuning. Check out how Thomas Lang slaps the skins on, sits on drum to tighten and then spends 20 minutes looking for the sound all by ear. That is pretty quick and it still sounds amazing. I spend hours tuning and trying to understand how it actually works and how to get the same thunder every time you start over. Yes a lot of failure and then all of a sudden it hits the window. And then go back to understand why it does what it does. In the end i make cheap dented drums sound like a canon. It's nice and it keeps your brain active.
I tune my snare drum pretty similar this way you show to us Jared. Greetings from Brazil!
great tuning i love the background music as a drummer one needs to be able to differentiate between different sounds,if a person is complaining about background music i do not expect the drummer to be able to hear ghost notes.
I've been tuning drums since about the age of 10. While my 1960's Ludwig Supraphonic sounds good, it lacks the "magic" I've heard on other snare drums. I heard a 13" Mapex Black Panther Birch, unmic'd/live, and my friend and I looked at each other like "WTF!". That thing sounded incredible. I've heard Yamahas, DWs, Tamas, and they sound good, but what is it that makes a snare reach that "magical" sound? I had a friend who owned a Gretsch snare from the 60's. It had this odd support rod running through the middle. That thing sounded awesome! He changed the snare heads and it never sounded the same. Makes me think snare heads have sweet spot that do something special for each drum.
One tip I would add is how you position your snare. I used to play mine at a 75• angle because any photo or videos of my idols had it set that way. When I saw Buddy Rich play his snare angled away from him and Travis Barker do the same, I tried that and it blew my mind.
great video sir
please do make a video based on bass drum and how to make them go faster or just a video about that part of the drum please
Huh! I pretty much do the same thing. And I do loose a bit the snares, so that they have room for vibration - that's what they add to the sound.
But something important I learned over the years is that if you dislike this ringing, you may need to tune your heads so they create a harmony. Also, if you get this annoying ring when hitting the center of the head, some lug may be unequally tightened, and vibrate differently.
I wish I could actually hear what the drum sounds like. All I hear is your eq and compression.
You can’t hear EQ and compression without a source sound lmao
I learned how to make drum rings out of old drum heads the results are great. Great for recording 🥁
Honestly I just tune by ear and find what works for me. I have a supraphonic, and it can be pretty forgiving and flexible with its tuning, so that make my job a little easier. I’ve kept stock heads and snares for a while and I’m loving their sound. I basically never dampen, but if I do then I’ll just throw my wallet or phone on there and it sounds great
get a Remo Ambassador head and use 1 Moon Gel. Trust me on this. I have one, too. :) Don't crank it too.much (they're not marching snares :)
Preferably I hate and really hate dry snares!😂 Ahhhhhh! They just can’t cut enough for me. Remo Controlled sound X on my snare or remo ambassadors or even Remo power strokes are great snare heads! But it’s all personal preference! Great video you guys! It helped me learn something new!
Three things to make your snare sound better:
1) rimshot
2) rimshot
3) rimshot
Been playing for 40 years and as there is some truth that you can get many sounds from one snare..it should have been noted that each and every drum has a "sweet spot" where it is "meant" to be sonically for the best sound for the wood,metal/depth and so on.
Fighting that will yield some results but also choke the natural resonance of the drum.
A good reference I use for tuning the snare to a good rock sound is Led Zep Moby Dick studio version. During the solo, after the bass drum's -""uh-1" then the snare - "bum, bum-bum-ba-bum"..Bonzo has the snares off and hits with his hands. The snare is tuned to G#. That's a great starting point. If you like it a little higher & brighter, you can always tune up, but that always seems to work fine.
Great video! The tips were all helpful and concise. I somewhat agree with other comments on the music. If the music were quieter in the background I would be fine with it. Everything else is great!
I can see that Jared has been lifting up bass drums in his spare time :p getting in shape!
1: 2 keys
2: Crazy tight reso
3: Do whatever you like with the batter
Boom. 😁🤘
Yep. I've learned if the reso is super nice and tight, wherever you put the batter, its gonna sound good
This would have been perfect opportunity to do this with a classic “trash can snare,” which are owned by the majority. Most people have the basic kit and don’t have that nice snare. You even proved it by having the top head extremely lose, and it still sounded damn good! Not so with the basic el-cheapo, snare. Anyways, other than that major issue I have, the rest of the steps are great tips.
Also depends on the microphone(s) and mixing
Bro Jared got so good over the years
I tuned my snare that way, hit it, and keeled over because the sound was so killer.
(Pannemat , LOL ! ) I just watched you do what i always do when tuning my snare . I also have the large snare wires on one of my snare drums , its a 14×8 bubinga.. love your playing and your channel , God bless
Your snare technique is extremely good Sir, That stick control is tough to master!
A drum sound is very dependent upon the room the drums are in and from where you are listening. Unfortunately one of the worst places to listen to the true sound of a drum is where the drummer sits. Not much you can do about that. Personally I love the older snares. I have accumulated 5 snares over the past 40 years that dare from the 1930s to the 1950s. Leedy, Slingerland and Ludwig. My personal favourite is a 1929 Ludwig Super Sensitive. Untouchable!
Who else thought the “finger tight” sound in the beginning was better than the ending one? 😂😂😂😂
I did. the final sound had too much over tone for my liking.
Yes, I totally agree. So basically, the first sound was him not tightening the snare drum as much as he wanted?
I should make a mental note for the next time I tune a snare drum.
Sid Gillespie Indeed haha
I agree I didn't like weird tom sounding Overtone
The background music. Make it stop! PLEASE!! 😫
😢
Conviction Authority Confidence. That is my big takeaway here. Thanks. My practice space is in a conservatory and my neighbours can see in and definitely listen in so my confidence plummets as I am so aware of their presence. But stick on a pair of ear defenders and I can’t hear as much so I get that confidence boost to play properly instead of tickling the drums and getting terrible sounds out.
You should do this video again with a lesser quality snare drum if you haven’t already. The fact this snare in it’s basic lose setting still sounded fantastic can be off putting for people watching who may be playing with a very beginner snare drum or something mid level.
Great video. What I have discovered is that when some people say their drums do not sound good, it is because of their vantage point. What do you here behind the kit and in front of the kit or two different things.
About "how you hit the drums": I found that if you dont hit the snare in the middle, you will get more of the ringing. The more you get to the middle of the head, the less it rings. I moved the snare a bit so I hit it in the middle "naturally" and it's way better now.
Used the principle he taught on a cheap "traps" 12" snare that comes with the kit. I had to replace the batter with a remo pinstripe and was able to achieve an expensive sounding snare. In addition, i replaced my 20" bass batter head with a remo premuffled powermax (used for marching bands), plus a very few cloth to touch the resonant heads and it sounded deep and punchy, only that it doesn't achieve a volume comparable to the regular ones.