$578 Hyper E-Ride Mountain 20mph 36v 250w Budget eBike from Walmart
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- The Hyper E-Ride Mountain is the second bike from the E-Ride Ebike series. It is closely related to the E-Ride City, but features MTB styling and 26" wheels. The core components are identical to the E-Ride City ebike: 36v 250w rear hub motor, 36v 7.8 aH battery, front suspension and cadence sensor. It is amazing how quickly budget eBikes are improving. For under $600 this is the most affordable eMTB I have encountered, even though it is more mountain-style that actual trail bike.
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Great review! I reviewed this bike last November when it was on sale for $398! Be careful with the chain falling off inboard towards the frame, because that happened on mine, and it cut the cadence sensor wire in half. I took it mountain biking and it was pretty terrifying. Roads and light trails only like you said.
The fork surely makes it more scary to go on. Swipe that and it'll be smooth to ride on. And swipe the derailuer for something better to remove the chain drops. Other then that it's nice. Buff and strong bike.
I have the same bike and fixed it having a local bike shop install a ProWheel 44t crankset. You can go up to a 46 tooth but might require notching the frame a bit.
The price of this ridiculous bike has almost doubled
Just got the same deal
This bike looks like it would be a good prospect for a budget upgrade. Looks like a pretty fun bike!
Oh, and I personally like chartreuse!
I would love to see this as the next project bike, it feels like it has so much potential.
You can look at my channel then. I seem to be the only one currently doing a huge attempt at the Hyper E-ride mountain by transforming it into a Dual motored/dual battery beast. And i got a rear rack on it that can supposedly support up to 300pounds on the rack itself since it mounts in 3 places. Seat post, top rear frame, bottom frame near axles.
Currently it's a weight beast at about 100pounds with a 36volt 30ah lifepo4 battery beast sitting a cargo bag on the rack. Still rocking V-brakes and i can easily lock up the rear wheels with them.
250w hub motor? wouldn't get your hopes up to much.
@@LordHolley converting to dual 500s. Front hub and mid drive.
My wife bought this bike this spring and she loves it. We ride mostly light trails and road and the bike has performed great so far. The only update I have done to it so far is add a suspension seatpost to it for her.
How tall is she? I'm looking for 5'1 and change
@@NotTrav She is 5'3''
Ive had one of these for a little over a year. It is a decent ride for sure, but as stated, I would not take it on any challenging trails. I am 5'9" and this frame feel tiny to me, ultra compact feel. I have a little over 200 miles on it (I have other bikes I like riding more), and for the money it isnt a bad purchase. My Wife who is 5'4" likes the sizing and enjoys any seat time she has on it. I recommend changing out that fork for anything else. ANYTHING else, as well as changing the tires. If I thought I'd ride it more, I would definitely invest in a few upgrades, but I have other Ebikes as well as other more capable bikes that I like to ride more and prefer to spend the money on those.
The bike even though tiny. Has thicker gauge metal tubing then high end bikes do. That's why these are heavier, Because their smaller. So to have better strength. They have thicker tube gauge inside. While high end bikes are 'Bigger' in design. They apparently are thinner gauged metal tubing. So the bigger more pricy bikes are stiffer and lighter. But they aren't well in taking the pain in crashes. These being smaller and having thicker gauge metal means they can take more bash and thrash. It's the same concept that they went over when they changed out handlebars/stems from 25.4 to 31.8. The part where the handlebars get gripped by the stem, Is apparently Thinner on the 31.8 versions then they are with 25.4. But they both have the same ability. Just that 31.8 can be lighter due to the thinning of the gauge metal, from the wider grasp. But strength wise the 25.4 will easily withstand more ambuse then the 31.8's or even the newer 35 versions.
So this can do same as a high end bike and tones of older bikes have been doing that also with smaller frames, But since they were small their tube gauge were thicker designed. Even then the older bikes did also use chromo steel, while some others used High carbon steel.
But the thing is now. Most high end bikes and even cheap bikes now use basically the same metal of alum 6061-t6 alum. While some might use the stiffer 7075. But like Giant their using 6000series alum on their bikes, and other companies of higher end and they get praized. So why don't these that use the exact same alloy? Cause like you. People think because their small and cheap. The frame isn't gonna be the same in taking the amount of ambuse as higher end ones.
But that isn't true since BOTH pricey and cheap bikes use the exact same metals now. The difference is that one focus on weight saving and stiffness. While the other focus on thickness for ambuse taking, while also keeping it rigid.
I like to refer to that color as neon grellow.
Another surprisingly good ebike, but I prefer the styling of the city commuter. This is definitely a good platform for an upgrade project though!
Yup. As i told before since i was the first to start one on this mountain. I'm still working on it. Gonna be putting dual motors (Front hub/Mid-drive.) and dual batteries. (36volt systems, Internal for mid-drive, and external for front.). With cargo rack/bag/front frame bags. and hybrid road/off-road tires. Cruiser seat stance. Full night vision/night riding performance. And motor-cycle light braking/turning functions.
Still using the V-brakes with upgraded rear calipers and promax pads. Can easily lock the rear wheel up with them.
Great review for someone like myself looking for a commuter bike on paved, and dirt trails mostly flat. 👍🏼
Hi! How are you liking it? This bike is on sale for $400 and I'm needing a commuter bike! I ride 12mi one way and can chatge at work :>
Would love to hear back about your experience
"Moutain bike" style is 100% correct. It's a great rail-trail bike but definitely not up for anything rougher then that. Fantastic budget ebike!
With the stock fork and derailleur I would agree. However, an air fork and derailleur upgrade make it just as capable as any other worthy hard tail. Also discs are a must, I run MT200 hydraulic on mine. Check my latest vid, long term review of the 29er version of this bike 👍
That tourney derailleur didn't disappoint: 5 chain drops 😜
These would be something i would be willing to recommend in my bike shop for budget riders
That real calliper mount is a nice opening for upgraded brakes once you change the front forks
Front CORKS, indeed! Perfect!
@@iBike2Live yes Corks 🤣🤣
Owned this bike for 6 months and put 1250 miles on it before selling for $380.00. The wheels were way out of true when I got it and the brakes were set too loose, but I bought a spoke wrench and did it myself. Learned how to adjust and replace the brake pads as well. Tires and brakes lasted about 500 miles, I live in a hilly area and weight 220lbs. A lighter rider would have a great time on this bike I believe. The chain drop would happen if I tried to downshift too quickly. Bike actually looks great even compared to much more expensive bikes. For the price, it’s quite good but you must learn about bike maintenance to enjoy it otherwise a good deal will go away from visits to the LBS
Thanks for sharing
Can it go up hills easy? And how hard do you have to pedal and how often?
@@bradyswank3936 depends on your weight mostly, but I’m 220 and could climb every hill, including 15 degrees incline. If you use highest assist level you might get 12 miles range. If lowest assist 25 miles is doable. You must peddle the whole time for peddle assist, there is no throttle. Also, at 1250 miles, the battery was losing capacity, maybe 10%. At $698 it’s not a good buy. It was on sales from December last year till about 2 weeks ago for $398.00.
@@victorkan7288 If you're using the bike just on the road (no off road bumps), would that eliminate/stop the chain from coming off?
Seems like a good casual riding bike, especially for those who want an e-bike to use around town and gravel roads.
It is a great bike for city and around town riding.
I love it.
@@acerkrt can you ride this bike after the battery dies?
@@goddaniel9478 yes Sir you can . It's a pretty light bike as far as Ebikes go . Half the rides I do on this bike is without the motor . I just get upto a good pace using the motor and shut the bike of and ride until I feel I need a boost and turn the bike back on and repeat. Also it's possible to buy a spare battery from the hyper website for 200 bucks and just get a cheap seat post bike rack and bungy it on so you can swap out and have a full battery on stand by.
@@acerkrt thanks for your help broski. So it’s not harder to pedal when the motor isn’t on?
This bike is a monster, been riding it for a year, I hope they sell upgraded battery in the future.
This is great, does it malfunction when heavy use on off-road and how long batteries last?
I got the same bike
I got the same bike. We will see if it holds up.
Please turn this into a project with a better tyres, derailleur and budget fork. See if it can take propper trails.
That would actually be so cool,
I'm thinking 140mm sr suntour airfork
@@nonameuser9664 might be a bit overkill on that bike and feel weird when pedalling, 120 or 130mm would be more suitable i think 🤔, but yes, better tire (continetal trail king), airfork with rebond, and hydro disk brakes. Might be a pain to deal with the derailleur/gearing as it's a a freewheel, so hard to change anything probably.
edit : time for a pro rush derailleur and feewheel cassette of one of the schwinns ?!
Budget triple clamp fork 😉!
Also Sunrace makes a 10 speed freewheel for E bikes that converts it to a cassette - Sort of 😉. E Bike hubs are different, and the Sunrace kit makes it a very easy conversion.
I rode this bike for its first ride, 9 miles on a city bike trail, and the assist worked well. After, I put the battery on a the charger, and when I went to ride for a second time, assist would not engage. There is no helpful troubleshooting tips out there that worked, feeling like a waste of money and time at this point.
I was hoping you would get the 29 version. I took delivery Christmas Eve of the 29 version and it has the same battery. I commute almost 11 miles and charge every day, I’m well into the 500 miles traveled. Great review
What is range and charge time for your bike sir?
How many miles until you have to charge it? & can you lift it onto a train
Just picked this up yesterday. Got a cousin that has a few and he gifted me one. Thanks for insight. 🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽
are the chain drops bad?
The biggest promble I had with my hyper ebike was the constant chain drops. And it broke the Kaden sensor disc in peices rendering the bike useless. They need to move the cadence sensor on the other side away from the chain.
I'm sorry it has been years since I have ridden a bike, and never an E-bike. But if the chain falls off can't you just tighten it more? Or does it come off while changing gears? I got my drivers license late, and road a 10 speed. Thinking of the last time I dumped one, I'm not to sure about getting any bike now that I'm 60. I could use the exercise, and the fresh air.
@@lonelyp1 I ended up buying the other hyper 29 inch bike with only one sprocket on the crank. And the deralier could use a stiffer retention spring to keep the chain from comming off. My 27 inch hyper was a little bit faster. But at least the chain stays on most of the time with the plastic guide on top of the sprocket. And I only have to carry a backpack full of tools and interludes and a pump to keep it going. So yeah nothing is perfect. And it is time for me to order new breaks on Amazon and put new breaks on it.
Kev and amazing review the funny thing is this was my first e-bike purchase enjoyed it for two years then I upgraded to my av level
Would you advise me to buy this bike?
Looking forward to this trail's review,Kev!
Omg I just bought that same ebike yesterday. I love it
How is it holding up?
Now $378 with tax and shipping!
Just bought the 29" for $450 TOTAL (Canadian Dollars)
from where
I believe that the color is correctly called 'chartreuse'. 😜
Prices are up for bikes at Walmart...when they have them in stock. thanks for the review...
First mod would be mechanical disk brakes. Second would be a KT controller and display. Then a throttle.
Weather aside this would make bicycle commuting so much more accessible.👍
Nicely said glenpetter
5 chain drops in 9 miles dang.
Yet another great review im amazed that 250 w entry level was enough my experience is a 350 w is entry level and forget the 250 w version thank you Kev always great reviews from you.
Well you would be correct.
250 is only sufficient for a woman or a very small man.
Thank you so much for your video :) I just got the black and blue one.
It's a gravel bike in mountain bike clothing, which for it's price, is perfect for my use in my city, where most of the bike trails are gravel. It's still more capable than a road bike for sure.
I think that a RockShox Judy (air) fork (~$170), decent hydraulic disk brakes, and a Microshift Advent (the 9 speed, not the Advent X 10 speed) group set would make this bike AWESoME to ride!! I bet it would shred, and you wouldn't have any of the issues you have right now (minus the slick tired)!
You'll have to replace the hub motor with a new one that has a DC/Cassette system. But most time when you do with this size of wheel mm (135). You can go from low of 1-5-6-7-8-9 to 10speed if you wanted to. Any higher and you need a thru-axle bike that ranges 142/145 to fit 11/12/13+ speeds.
I got a Microshift advent 8speed system on it. The advent deraileur can work on ether 8 or the 9speed shifters/cassette systems. So no need to find a 8speed advent since the 9speed works on ether.
These are really limited by not using a cassette. Finding a 9 speed freewheel with off road gearing is a unicorn. I have an NCM Prague and had thoights of doing this exact thing. Took the rear off once for a flat tire and lets just say never again if I can help it!
@@brianwalker9793 The rear wheel stock can only use 6speed. 7 would be pushing it due to the length it extends. But if you do swipe to a standard Non hub wheel. you can go up to 10speed cassette. I got one already on mine that's quick release system. Using a 8speed right now.
Just put a motor hub for the front or convert the rear wheel for mid-drive ride.
@@KillerRaptorr absolutely agree! Anything can be done to these bikes ... For a price and with effort and tools. I personally don't see the value of doung much to this particular bike as the most important parts - motor, battery, shifters and controller are just MEH. Upgrade them all and you might as well have bought a better bike to begin with. Plus not sure you can upgrade that battery. Probably worth putting an Altus on to get rid of chain drops and thats about it IMHO
@@brianwalker9793 I got a microshift advent derailuer on mine right now. I had a deore before. but i wanted the clutch and they didn't make 8-9speed clutch systems. So microshift was the best choice since their advent derailuer can use ether 8 speed cassette/shifters or 9speed, Without having to change it's derailuer.
The battery i think you 'could' upgrade it to maybe 10ah 36volt. because it's just 18650cells housed inside the shell, and their not using high mah cells. So if you used 3400/3500mah 18650cells instead you could increase that battery pack to 10.5ah. Just gotta pull out the old cells and resolder the new ones on. Keep the same BMS in etc, and you're good.
Great video thank you for the honest review I can’t wait to get mine
Congrats on the new bike
This is an excellent entry into e-bikes at an affordable "dip your toe in" price.
As a project e-bike it's pretty pointless. To get it anywhere near a proper trail bike you'd have to replace almost everything. That includes both bike parts and electronic & motor parts. I'm still hoping you do a project e-bike with a Bafang mid-drive. The Axum would make for a top notch trail worthy e-bike project. The Boundary or Al Comp would make for excellent budget e-bike builds. The Mongoose Dolomite ALX would be an awesome fat e-bike project (would require the more expensive BBSHD for the larger bottom bracket).
idk, even a decent budget fork probably makes it worlds better.
if someone wants a smaller motor and stealthyish bike for cheap, 400 leaves room to add a few parts, especially for those who already have spares.
It’s easy to get any budget disc brakes on the rear. To get disc brakes on front you’ll need new wheels and fork, it’s better not to get those adapters to make the fork disk brake capable, most are garbage and very fiddly. Note if you don’t upgrade to hydros then I’d recommend changing the cable housing to compressionless, it will improve braking and get rid of a lot of the mushiness. But it may be more cost effective to go hydro.
Totally agree it is a mtb Style bike, not a real mountain bike capable. It’s more a light trail bike or gravel bike with flat bars.
I got one for the wife to keep up with me on my gravel bike.
Well funny thing about how peoples point of view of 'Mountain bikes' is really off. Because now 90% of people do Downhill riding and not really 'Mountain biking'. So generally people idea of 'mountain biking' isn't the same anymore. So i'd say, Yes this is a 'mountain bike' But not a 'downhiller' as most people's views are looked at when thinking of 'mountain bikes'.
It'll do mountain riding well. But course for those harsh downhill hits that everyone looks at now, I'd say it'd need a lot of upgrading done for it to be near compatible for such thrash. But i wouldn't truly say it's not compatible, due to that fact the frame is made exactly same alum alloy of t6 6000 series metal as most higher end bikes are made of. Just that the smaller frame is made thicker gauge tubing then higher end bikes that are made wider, with thinner gauge system to get weight loss but same stiffness. But the smaller frame the hyper has is still rigid and strong as a high end would be.
It's same concept as people who don't know that 25.4 handlebars are built thicker where the stem clamps on, then on 31.8 that are thinner where the stem clamps. and even newer 35 bars are even thinner. But they have stiffness there, Just not as much strength of bash resistance as the smaller handlebars are. So crashes, The hyper can take better then a lighter/thinner/higher priced bike. Kinda why walmart bikes last pretty darn well under the amount of ambuse they get put on from being dropped, thrown around, jumped.
Yup this is true. Unfortunately there are a bunch of channels that trash this bike. I think it's a good bike for the price point when it's on sale. 80's mtb is basically a flatbar 650b gravel bike. Well kind of 26" wheels. As for me it was a cheap bike that allows my non biking wife to ride with me and have a good time. Cheap disc brakes and it was good to go.
Good to see you finally nabbed this. I wonder though if you'll attempt a 2et buy to get the 29ner version.
It'll be interesting to see if you do, do some upgrades and take this on a downhill test ride.
Going to get one for my wife. Thanks for the review.
This is an interesting project base. Those rim brakes have GOT to go!
What's wrong with rim brakes? I'm using deore rim calipers on my rear with promax pads and i can lock the rear wheel up on my 100pound monster hyper e-ride mountain.
If for downhilling sure discs would be better. But for normal flat to slight hills. V-brakes work fine. And are silent.
@@KillerRaptorr great points great insights thank you
Project-E new fork and disc brakes!
Excellent review. 200 bucks turns this ebike into a super ebike and same goes for the other hyper. 8 speed groupset , disc brakes, wheel and rear rim, bars, pedals , fork and tires will make this ebike a city ripper guaranteed.
How do you change the wheels when the wires are connected? Are you a mechanic?
@@goddaniel9478 The wheels or tires?
@@thiosemicarbizidebenzoylal2921 the tires and wheels lmao wym?
Thanks for the info. Buying one now for work
29 inch air fork on the front. Ultimullet. (Ultimate mullet) Disc brakes! And better tires. See how it goes! 😇😎😀
Ha!
I think we are all having the same thoughts, next project bike!!!! Really want to see how disc brakes will mount with that frame, as well as a budget air fork to get front disc brakes. Wider bars, better tires as well, I feel like this has a lot of potential to be a solid sub $1k eMTB!
I already did most of that. Though i'm staying with V-brakes. But i do have a rotor disc/caliper placed on my front wheel. Plan to do same on the back and mount a form of 'parking brake' system for the rear via the disc brake system.
I got a RST Omega 26inch V-brake/Disc brake fork coil. I had a Rockshox Recon TK silver 32 26inch forks before. but i kinda messed up cracking the crown when putting it on with a front hub motor. but the RST omega's fit prefectly with the hub motor without any real modifying to the axle drops. Alum handlebars i think about 680mm or 660 (Stocks i think are 600/620mm and steel). and schwinn nobs all terrian treads. using super thick inner tube slime.
If you stick with cable pull discs you can stick with the stock cutoff switches levers. but if you go hydrualic, Then you'd have to find a conversion ekit for the levers. And you'll have to rebleed the system due to you'll have to make the cables run inside the frame.
Nice video Kev! I saw a Hyper 700C Gravel road bike at Walmart the other day for $398 CAD. Had the SNAFU seat. Maybe I might see it ono e of your videos? 😁You videos taught me a lot about big box bikes! Thank you!
Edit: I’m flabbergasted with the speed on the trails though!
I think I all the prices are up I can't find it for 398
@@SeriouSXXFireworks Yeah, it’s the Canadian dollar.
Now that its 2024 I need to see this with Cues thrown on it and a decent fork
5 chain drops in one ride out of the box? Sounds like limit adjustments
Just put some 26er Panaracer GravelKings on there and now you have a bike for bad roads, xc smooth trails and comfortable on the road.
They have these clearance at my local walmart for 200 some dollars right now.
Cut to one gear. No derailleur, no shifter, 5 gears gone, lowered weight, lower fewer chain drops? 500 watt motor, better battery 🤔🤔🤔
Maybe split the difference and that color is neon lime? And thanks, Kev, for your look at this and it would helpful if you could do some rides at all assist rates on asphalt so we could know the actual/realistic range. And maybe also with the bald 1.25 road/commuter tires. And for sure get a cup holder for a Big Gulp to stay hydrated and cool. :)
Wow seems like a good city bike
From the California Ebike Law summary "The bill would also require an electric bicycle to operate in a manner so that the electric motor desengages or stops functioning when the brakes are applied..."
It's nice to see affordable bikes that are OK within the limits of what they can do.
I just got home from taking part in the first Vehicle Free Wednesday of 2021 at Cades Cove, yesterday. I rode it four different times last year and saw several ebikes...but yesterday was a different story. We were amazed at the number of ebikes. Seriously, I would guess that almost 1/3 of the bikes that we saw were ebikes. Maybe more. It was amazing. And like I have commented on your channel before, I used to complain about ebikes being "cheaters" but I have come to realize that they actually allow people to get outside in nature and get some exercise riding bikes, that otherwise would not be able to do so. It was actually nice to see and I have to add that everyone that was on an ebike seemed a lot happier on all of those hills than those of us that were having to hike-a-bike!!! LOL!
Thanks for sharing. I’ve been saying for quite a while that eBikes are the future of cycling for a large portion of new riders - and allow older riders the ability to stay on a bike.
@@KevCentral Yep. Many older riders were enjoying Cades Cove in a way that they simply could not do a few years ago. My wife & I talked to one man that had to be in his upper 80’s, maybe even 90’s. Spry little dude, but he was LOVING his ebike and having the time of his life!
👍🏼 next time you attend let me know and I’ll send some stickers you can give the new riders.
@@KevCentral The plan, or hopes I should say, is to make it up there to ride it once per month from now until the last day, which is September 1.
Contact me via my website.
This bike is awesome. Reliable, durable.
Only downfalls are how uncomfortable the seat is and where the wiring/ sensor is placed , near the bikes chains.
The sensor wiring isn't a problem. The seat can easily be replaced. Only thing is the derailuer is the problem.
If you don't like it on the chain side. You can always remove the bottom bracket. Swipe the sensor post to the left, Use the bottombracket's lock nut to hold it in place. Then put the magnetic wheel on the left side.
But no matter which side. The sensor wire should be fine. Unless you do curb jumps or ride rails with the middle of the frame.
Everyone wants more. More length more girth more money more space more horsepower more battery life and more more more.
I have a lectric XP and a Hyper ERide and I like the Hyper better.
This bike runs really great and is sturdy and strong.
The only thing I can say is that in the back it should be a disc break because it has alot of power you will use alot of the breaks wearing the wire out alot.
For off roading yes likely a good upgrade to do. But if you keep it to mainly flat slow trails and roads. V-brakes will work more then fine. I upgraded my rear v-brake to deores for the caliper arms with promax 3-1pads. And i can lock the rear wheel. And this running on a 100pound for my Hyper E-ride. With a huge 21pound battery on the rack. So it's no light boy anymore.
@@KillerRaptorr I ride street with mine and find my brakes lose alot after the stop and goes due to so much Traffic and lights. I am in NYC so breaking is constant.
I have to constantly mess with the back break wire at the break on the handle bar and when I get it right enough to stop well the break pad rubs the tires.
I really like this bike but the break problem has had me in a few almost fatal encounters. I also have an extra battery from hyper strapped onto the bike to put in when the battery goes red
@@acerkrt The brake pads need to be slightly below the rim surface. And you need to angle it to bend with the curve.
The best way to adjust them, is undo the brake wire cable from attaching to both calipers. unscrew the pad just abit to get it wiggling and angling around. Push the rod with your thumb so the pad is pushing up to the rim of the wheel. Angle the pad enough to the rim just so you see the rim surface from the rubber of the tread. Angle with the wheel curve. Push slightly harder, Then tighten the bolt enough. Let the rod bend relax from your thumb, hold the pad, and tighten the pad down, Make sure to hold it firmly when tighten because it'll like to slightly tilt down when you tighten the pad bolt down. Then just do same on the other side. After that. put the wire back onto the both. press the brake handle, And unscrew/screw the tightening bolts on the edges of the brake caliper rods. Loose makes them swing easier, tighten makes them get pushed out. So when both are balanced in closing together with same timing. Then just tighten the screw nob on the handlebar abit to tighten the grouping together.
There's a video from shimano that mentions how to adjust V-brakes you can find if you want to.
This also makes them not squeak when their in full contact with the rim surface.
@@KillerRaptorr I wish I knew cause I am kind of hesitant to do it .lol bit I will try . I just ordered Kool stop pads . They are longer pads and I've heard good things about them on the hyper.
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i had this for about a week and returned it because the tire popped and the brakes were so bad. i pulled the wire and tightened the nuts on the brakes and they still were bad.
Budgetest 100mm suntour, grippier tyres, cheapest hydros and you can fabricate a motor cutoff with a wire, magnet and super glue. Sketchy fun
Cool review....enjoyed it!
One downside to this bike is once the battery is spent, there’s no way to buy a new one from Hyper. I looked everywhere and couldn’t find proper replacements.
You call walmart department phone line and ask. Their normally 200$ for new one. But putting extra 100$ you can normally get a waterbottle designed battery tank, fit a bottle cage just above the battery and have two batteries in 1. Attempt i'm still working on for my dual motor/dual battery setup i'm making mine for. Though right now i got a 30ah 36volt hunker in a pack that runs epic. Heavy of 21pounds putting my overall weight of the sucker to 100pounds with some tools and other parts i upgraded it with. But it works and handles the abuse well.
I am looking at a Retrospec Joe Rev BMX cruiser/fat bike from Best Buy and can't find any reviews out there. Any chance you'd review one? The Hyper Jet Fuel E-BMX from Wal Mart is very similar, but I am really not liking the 20 mile max range. The Retrospec has more than double the range. What do you think?
YesSiRr!! Very Nice Kev!! I like!! Lol! Looks cool and the colours not bad either. Thankz for sharing Mate.. alwayz Appreciated the reviews.. uR Awesome Bloke Mate Stay Bless and Stay Safe out there!!
Would be really interesting if you turn this one into a project bike and make a trail monster out of it!👊🏼
I don’t think this would ever be a trail monster, but I’m considering a few things to make it better
@@KevCentral sure, "trail monster" maybe is a little too far, but I bet you can turn it into something more trail worthy 😁
It is a good better loking e-mtb, for its price. I bought it to commute to work everyday. However, when in resistance intervals, the motor doesn't activate...missing active intervals. Still, thought a great e-mtb, and clearly...am a beginner, so am still learning about this e-mtb. Like, how to do maintenance on the motor, the manual doesn't provided it, only a troubleshooting chart, and manufacturer contact.
The motor doesn't need maintenance. Most hubs are pretty sealed and will last years without needing a clean.
PAS works by magnetic beads on the disc that is on the drive side of the pedals. The faster the magnetic beads move past the sensor strip. It'll sense to turn the motor on. Long as there is a magnetic field on the sensor strip. It'll keep the motor on. Once you stop it'll turn off. That's how simple PAS work.
I have one but I enjoy it on a normal light use
Would love a comparison. Or at least what this should be compared to. Love the effort! Keep it up!
My classmate uses this bike to go to school!
Interesting. Battery is still to small IMO and I wonder what cells are in there.
I got a 36v wheel kit and 12ah battery from Unit Power pack for $350 a few years ago and think that the battery is the week link in that setup. (It goes 26mph and will go over 20 miles if I take it easy on the throttle. This might be a good "donner" frame for those with better parts laying about but I would not buy one and spend $ to upgrade it because of the small proprietary battery.
It also factors down to hills and the power of the hub motor itself. Going higher can also put more juice required from the battery. Not just the voltage difference. So for 20miles of range and 20mph of power on a 7.8ah battery is apparently rather good. But if you're truly tech savy you can easily upgrade the internal cells from their lower mah to the high end mah of 3400/3500mah cells and pack it up to 10.5ah for the internal battery.
i put a bafang mid drive on mine loving it
How did it handle the modification?
That has mounting points for a rack, too. Not bad for an out-the-door ebike.
Yup. I got a 3point mounted rack on mine. The frame, and it also clamps to the seatpost. Supposedly can hold up to 300pounds! Heh.
@@KillerRaptorr indeed. if they sold extra batteries for these bikes, it'd be a nice place to stow one if you want some extra ride time.
or, you know... groceries.
@@DFX2KX they sell the extra batteries. I called hyper to ask why I wasn't getting over 15 miles on a charge and they actually sent me a free battery so now I have 2 . Biting the battery from hyper is $199
@@acerkrt That's REALLY good, actually (well, not the 15 mile range, but the part where they actually offer the battery)
one of the reason I never considered built-in ebikes was the worry about batteries wearing out long term and not being able to have a backup. it's one thing when it's a standard 'shark-fin' style that's basically universal, another when 10 years from now, you might not have a way to replace the pack.
@@DFX2KX this bike can be converted into taking a square battery with a few wire adjustments and 5 bucks in plugs but yes they sell the battery for the bike at hyper .
I know a fat tire hyper makes a really high e bike and it's got a ton of power
Fat tire hyper? You mean their little 20inch cruisers? There is no hyper ebike right now with 4inch tires. And none of the hyper mountain (26/29) inch can fit more then standard 2.2 size tread. The rear is to narrow for anything bigger then that. Maybe the front fitting if you get a fork with such. But that'd kinda be pointless with a thin wheel in the back.
Aren't these closer to 281w because 36*7.8.
I just bought one tonight only its orange and black and it has a different frame style than this one. Also has disc brakes. Was only $598 CAD on sale.
I was hoping you'd post this (recalling you had said it was coming soon) because I just jumped into the e-bike pool myself, albeit with a pre-owned bike.
I was scrolling Facebook marketplace and spotted a 2019 Fuji E-Nevada 2.1 for $500. It's a 250W Bafang hub motor with a 417 wh frame mounted (not integrated) battery. It's a 27.5 hardtail frame with a pretty basic, preload adjustment only 100mm Zoom fork, 24 speed Shimano Altus drivetrain, and Shimano MT200 brakes. Looks like about $1800 retail new. Original owner in his mid-70s. He got it on closeout for $1000, rode it a few times, and then down sized from a house to an RV so didn't have room since he had 2 other e-bikes. I jumped on that deal and had it on my bike rack within an hour.
For someone used to riding expensive full suspension bikes, this obviously isn't the same level of bike, but for riding around my suburban bike trails, it is very well suited for that. I am very tempted to do a KevCentral style uograde with an AdventX 1x swap and a nicer air fork. Already ordered some Fooker pedals and lock-on grips with the saddle being the next comfort mod.
The biggest question was range. When I heard how little it was on that Hyper city bike, I was worries this bike might have only 15-20 miles. I was very pleased that I rode 25 miles and the battery level on the controller still shows 3/5 bars. Oddly, the battery level indicator right at the battery still shows 4/5 bars. I can't wait to take it out again to see how much more rang there might be. Not expecting any more than another 25 miles because I figure once I get down to 1 bar, the battery will die quickly. Hopefully, 40-50 miles is doable.
Anyway, I am suddenly much more interested in e-bike content. Definitely looking forward to more and will probably go back and watch some of your older stuff. Thanks and look forward to your next livestream!
Hypers have 20miles of range at HIGH power. If you're letting it power itself. If you push yourself to pedal slightly more over the power of the motor. The motor won't need to work as much and IE will increase your range of power. But if you run JUST the motor (barely pedaling to turn the motor on from the PAS.) then yes 20miles of range at HIGH power of 20mph ias the max you'll go on flat terrian.
What type of camera are you using while riding?
Gopro hero 9
Totally sounds good except I need a throttle for start up from stop, or injuries acting up.
No way to add throttle unless you swipe the ESC for a different 250watt version. But then you'll have to rewire the battery leads, And run the ESC from outside the frame onto a seat bag or a pannier pack. The stock ESC sits inside the upper frame where the battery is and is super tiny. Newer ESC will be to big to fit into the same housing. + rewiring stuff inside the middle under battery frame is a pain in the prick. So you might as well be glad to run the battery leads from under the frame and up to the new seat post bag rather then trying to fiddle with that hardball frame point.
You should review the 29er variant of this ebike I just ordered one, disc brakes on that one
Working on getting one. Thanks
Do you think it’s good for Ubereats delivery?
Couldn’t say how it would hold up to constant delivery use - especially constantly out in weather
This bike is sweet!
Do you plan on reviewing the new hyper electric mountain bike from target? I just bought one yesterday. Going on first ride today
Nice look, and looks fun....
My question is can you ride it like a regular bike, and use the electric to clime hills? Or if you are just feeling lazy. Or is it basically impossible to peddle around even on the flat? I have thought about getting an E-bike for exercise but I'm 60 now and not willing to peddle my fat butt up hills. Especially hills I would have walked up when still a kid.
It is possible to ride it without assist, but eBikes are heavy, so that’s something to factor
@@KevCentral So peddling on the flat would give me more exercise than a regular non e-bike, and I shouldn't have to OVER DO to clime a hill. There is a bike shop down town. Maybe I will stop in and see if I can rent one, or take one for a test drive, before buying anything.
Nice bike. excellent review. As always.
I wonder if this bike work as a single speed. Might eliminate chain drops and reduce weight.
It's the derailuer that drops the chain due to crappy spring that tourny derailuers have.
But the stock rear wheel uses freewheel hubs. So you could easily unscrew the stock 6speed freewheel and slap a 1speeder on it without any modifying of the axle.
@@KillerRaptorr I know. Basically my comment was on how usable this bike will be as a single speed.
With a few upgrades I definitely think this bike could be a best especially for riders without the best fitness level
It is a great bike. Very durable and rides great
I mentioned that on mine when i first got mine about 2years ago. The best upgrade to do right off the bat is to swipe the derailuer due to the poor spring it has on the stock. Then you can look into a new fork/Wheel for disc brake compatibly or find a old hybrid version like rockshox or RST or suntour, that make V-brake/disc brake forks that have both in 1 option.
Been focusing on making mine a dual powered and dual motored version with on-off and cargo performance. It's been awesome since i been slowly upgrading it.
And all SHIMANO also :)
The most annoying thing is that most bikes are reasonably priced bikes are 26 "in size, I'm tall that means I have to buy expensive models with a wheel diameter of 29"
I am 6 foot3 and ride this bike with ease.
Even leave the seat kind of low and have do.much control over the bike on fast turnarounds.
@@acerkrt6 feet how many meters?
Sounds like it would work well on suburban bike paths
You are one brave man. I would have faceplanted right into that tree at 6:16 :-)
How is the Cruiser version of this?
Looks good and its a great price. Thanks for the great review looking forward to the follow up video. How long do the batteries last (cycles)? Can you get spare batteries for these bikes and how much are they?
You call walmart's support line, and they'll send you one. 200$ for a battery. And their supposedly using internal 18650cells. Which i believe would likely be the NMC versions that have a life span of 500cycles from full discharge to full charge.
but if you're tech savy you can easily remove the old 18650cells and replace them with new ones of you're own. And since their using a lower mah you'd might even beable to increase it from 7.8ah to 10.5ah if you slap it with some good 3400/3500mah cells.
@@KillerRaptorr Thank you:)
I have a question I buy it two days ago but now you don’t feel the pushing electric motor
Flawless review
We just got this bike in our walmart store and they are going fast at $598.00
If you make a project bike out of this you should try Sunrace's new 10 speed freehub for hub motor E bikes! I've got mine on backorder supposed to ship by May 31. I am pairing with the Sunrace RDMS10 clutch derailleur.
Yeah there are some cool Cassette hub motors. I saw few from Bafang that had DC/Cassette systems. But you gotta be aware that this axle is only 135mm wide.
@@KillerRaptorr The sunrace freehub is basically a conversion for hub motors to a freehub/cassette. Hang on, i will post a link. Hopefully it won't be blocked as spam 😂
@@simrigpc27b12 Hmm i don't see a link. Try doing the link, but split it in half at one or two points, That way it won't turn into a link. But i can easily bring both together to 'url bar' it in and go to the site. That always works when something tries to hit ya in the head with blocking stuff.
Why yes you can!!
Can you lower the seat on this model?
The chain drops are a deal breaker. You kept saying it's no big deal, but as you demonstrated, it dropped 9x in under 20 miles of a relatively easy trail. Will a more expensive bike resolve this? I'm curious if you have a recommendation.
can a throttle be added ?
Every time you say " I'm surprised to see this in a bike of this price the price goes up 50 to 75 bucks for each bike
Where is the motor cut off switch? Our bike isn’t working