New M4 iPad Pros Look Awesome, But Should You Care?
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I got my iPad Pro ordered for May 15. I personally think Apple did do enough for me to upgrade from my 2018 iPad Pro to the latest and greatest.
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Same… I’m finally trading in my 2018 iPad Pro as well… mainly because the battery just doesn’t perform like it used to.
Same for me. Whilst my battery health on the 2018 pro is still around 90%, it's not quite efficient anymore. Compared to that one, this M4 iPad is quite an upgrade with the screen, chip, aesthetics and storage. A bit bummed out about not being able to use the older magic keyboard and pencil...
@@AhsaanHussain Typical Apple behavior. We’ve all been there.
I have the M1 iPad 12.9 inch and I ordered the M4 for three reasons. First the landscape camera so I can have my zoom meetings on the iPad. I’ve been using my iPhone on the road or the MacBook at home. It’d be nice to use the iPad for it. Second reason is the Magic Keyboard. I love the added function keys and the material used to make it feel more like a MacBook. Third reason is for the OLED screen. The M1 is already amazing and I watch a lot of movies and shows on it. The OLED screen will just make it that much better. So excited. 😆
I upgraded from the 2018 11-inch pro. I was holding out for the OLED screen. I pre-ordered the 11-inch 1-TB model. The 2024 upgrades were enough to get me to bite. The M4 chip is an unexpected bonus. I use the iPad as a travel PC since I have to lug my work computer as well. Fingers crossed that the iPad IOS gets some updates to fully utilize the upgraded hardware.
I bought the new iPad Pro 13” and the new Magic Keybiard in anticipation of what iOS 18 will bring to the table, and to future proof the iPad.
Selling your old Pro with the accessories (eBay, Craigslist, etc.) sounds like it may be better than trading it in.
I can confirm this. I always get more on EBay than I do trading it in.
Sell local, bought my 12.9 6th gen for $600 and sold it got $850, only another $150 and ill get the new 11" pro.
One word: Swappa. It is so good. Way better prices.
Yeah trade in prices are TERRIBLE. My M1 iPad Pro trades in for $500 and the keyboard and pencil are worthless.
Always better to sell for cash even phones even when they say 1000 for trade in look at the plan you have to buy because the trade in and after your two or 3 year term you have your phone to them for free always sell it in street don’t take any of the “deals” they offer just get phone and get the cheapest service they offer in end you walk away with more money
I use 2020 ipad pro still and its still insane good enough no need to upgrade.
🐬ordered iPad Pro 13-inch with 512 GB storage and cellular + Magic Keyboard + Apple Pencil. May 15 can’t come soon enough!
Congratulations! Looks like you went all out. I ordered the same and can't wait to use it.
Man, I've just pre ordered it. I can't wait i currently have the ipad 9th generation. Hopefully, it's a huge bump up
We also ordered the new one and we don’t have one at all so we are stoked to have this for years
My ipad pro is 5 1/2 years old. Video streaming and bluetooth audio to my hearing aids is wonky. Also, I’m bumping close to the 256 Gb memory capacity. It was a no-brainer to order the 1 Tb M4 iPad Pro. I ordered it just as soon as the introduction concluded.
You’re going to be blown away if you’re upgrading from a 9th Gen iPad..
Waiting to see if the iPad OS is significantly upgraded at WWDC in June. With a 2017 iPad, I was planning a big upgrade but if the software isn't significantly improved, my old iPad will continue as my "travel" computer.
I agree I’ve been hearing from most most tech users, software doesn’t match up the hardware. Don’t order an iPad so don’t quote me.
I would *NOT* hold my breath though....
Same for me as I have the 2018 iPad Pro. Got excited in 2018 that it might be closer to a laptop & a tablet, but six years later still waiting as the OS is dated.
Yeap. My iPad Pro is my default travel device beyond my phone - but I will say that the 12.9" size can be a bit large for economy class flying. Even so, I can keep it on during the entire flight including taking off and landing. Now that the Air has a 13" model, that is probably the best "plus" iPad for many.
I agree. I preordered one because my mini is useless to me since it not much bigger than my phone. I may regret it unless they add some major features or make it more Mac OS-like. Because we all know they will never let you run Mac OS on an iPad although it’s capable.
I appreciate your honesty. It is a breath of fresh air.
should I put screen protector if I chose the nano texture?
🐬 I preordered mine already, I was due for an upgrade and I was patiently waiting for the OLED panels. I am convinced that IPadOS is going to get way better this year.
I have an M2 iPad Pro, can imagine when I’ll buy another one.
Thank you for this video. As a iPad Pro 12.9 M1 user too, it a bit of a hard sell for me to replace it and all of my major accessories for the M4 Pros at this time. My current iPad is still snappy and has actually improved in usability with every iPadOS update. I would hope that the majority of iPadOS 18 additions will also work on the M1/M2 Pros. One of the things that I’m curious about is comparing the Mini-LEDs from the iPad 12.9 M1/M2 to the iPad Pro M4s.
My 2018 iPad Pro 11” crashed. This is a huge upgrade for me and I preordered pro 13”
As a display enthusiast, the new screen alone is enough reason to upgrade.
100% agree
A huge consideration for me as well
Question. Looking to use an iPad Pro for my professional photography doing mostly events and portraits so what is a sufficient set of specs. I’m planning to use my M1 laptop to input into Lightroom and then use the cloud to then cull and make my adjustments on Lr Mobile on the iPad Pro.
i have a pre m1 ipad pro, the only lag i experience is when I'm creating really complicated shortcuts
Do you know anymore about the Oled panel? Will it have DC Dimming ? Or will there be PWM Flickering, which can be a problem for some people.
Will the M4 on the iPad Pro support 2 External Displays now ?
Ha! No. But I wish.
Then it’s a no for me, I’m dying for the true laptop replacement but not having that feature just doesn’t make it worth for me
🐬I bought strictly for the OLED display. I bought a 12.9 inch M1 iPad pro and use it for a consumption device a few years back for one reason, the better display. I am so happy we are getting the same display on both versions, which the 11 inch is replacement for a 2018 iPad pro which is nearly five years old. I plan on using this device pretty much for a consumption device, not for creative reasons.
I'm coming from a 2020 11" iPad Pro 1TB Wifi only with A12Z Bionic I believe. I ordered the 13" iPad Pro 2TB Wifi only model with the magic keyboard and pencil pro. I was going with the 1TB model but when I checked the storage on my current iPad I'm about to hit that mark and didn't realize it. 2TB it is. I can at least say this is definitely worth the upgrade. I never used the camera on the iPad but I do have a need to scan docs from time to time. Instead of using my printer/scanner, it could be easier to use this iPad if it's better.
I have the same iPad Pro, size also. Just mine is the 256gb storage. I am very much interested in getting this new iPad Pro 13 inch in a 1tb. I am just waiting for day one reviews, as some Oleds can be hardship on eyes if they skimp out and have PWM high flicker.. so i hope not, as i really want this iPad.
Si I'am stuck with a paper weight pencil from my 4th gen iPad 11 inches?
Great informative video 👌
I ordered the 9 core 11” and can pick it up on 15/16th 🥳🤩
I have the m1 iPad Pro. Gonna be getting the m4 iPad Pro, Magic Keyboard and pencil pro. Update is really needed. So excited
FANTASTIC VIDEO! Great Points !
If you absolutely need a new iPad, the iPad Air is perfectly fine for most users. But if you have a newer MacBook already, I don’t see this as a necessity to get. I saw elsewhere that someone had traded in their MacBook Pro that was an M2 (I believe) for the new M4 iPad Pro. I personally don’t understand that decision as it will be very limiting in capability.
We really need to send a message to Apple with our wallets and purchasing power that they either need to vastly improve the iPadOS experience to justify the purchase and heavy price tag or give MacBooks a touchscreen.
🐬thanks for the information/speculation dense vid. I appreciate your thoughts and questions. Any idea if there are any downsides to the nano texture display? Side effects like dulling or dimming the display? I went for it but your question of “don’t know what they are getting” [Paraphrase] gave me pause. Thanks!
Thinking of upgrading my 2020 11inch iPad Pro to 13inch M4 iPad Pro . Is getting bigger iPad worth it?
Depends on your use cases for the iPad Pro. It's maybe worth it if you really want to see things bigger, have a bigger keyboard (if you get the keyboard), and have a few more window position options. Artists for example might really make use to the bigger canvas. There doesn't appear to be a technical hardware difference this generation like there was in the last gen (11" got LCD while the 13" got mini-LED). As a 2018 12.9" iPad Pro owner, after a while it is kind of big and kind of heavy with the Magic Keyboard, to the point I would consider downsizing. Personal preference
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If you like chilling on the couch with your iPad or toting your iPad around to different places…I’d recommend the 11 inch. I have both and the 13 inch is just too big to hold on the couch, bed or around the house in general. 13 inch is better for editing, but for general use, I’d go with the 11 inch.
@@everythingsablurthx for your comment:):). Will definitely try the 13inch iPad Pro next week in person to see what it’s like using it with Magic Keyboard. Since the new iPad Pro is Lighter, probably wont be too heavy as the last GEN iPADS .
With an Ipad Pro, you're good enough for at least 5 years without upgrading. Faster is a matter of milliseconds now and doesn't justify spending hundreds of dollars every 2 years just to have to newest model.
Absolutely right, and Apple knows it, so the game is called “AI”, new features in software that will be used with the architecture of the M4. Be ready.
@@rayray2283 Do you mean "AI"?
@@ericdraven7857no, IA. The new intelligiance artificial!
@@ericdraven7857Yes, you are wright (I had the keyboard in French)
Frankly, unless Apple plans on introducing a more robust version of iPadOS, or even MacOS, they don’t need to introduce new iPads (or even upgraded M-chips) every year. Every two years or longer is perfectly adequate. Seriously, how many milliseconds faster does a video creator need to upload a file? 🤷♂️
Is it worth to upgrade from iPad Air 4 to the latest iPad pro?
Still got the 2019 iPad Pro, works perfectly. Debating whether or not if it’s finally time to upgrade
🐬 good evaluation, and you could have less repetition. specifically why wait for WWDC ? I am replacing still working original ipad pro, with original battery. WRT performance, sure speed of M1 or M2 is fine, but will it be in a couple of years?
I mean the when 2018 ipad pro got the redesign, they introduced the new apple pencil and keyboard, which i think was not compatible to its previous model. So i think it makes a bit sense in my opinion. Don't get me wrong. It does suck a bit bow the previous pencil and keyboard are not compatible on the new ipad pro.
How much of a performance bump am I really going to see, aside from the oled screen. I currently have an M2 iPad Pro w/ 256 gb storage. If I jump to the M4 same storage I will get 3 performance cores on the M4 vs 4 performance cores on the M2. 2 efficiency cores added on the M4. Hmmm…
I would like you to compare the behaviour difference between your baseline m1 to the 1TB M4. Interested if 16GB changes how IOS reloads apps with app switching. specifically safari reloading pages like twitch etc.
I upgraded to the m4 with cellular from the m1 pro. I also get cellular one everytime
any video explaning the differences between nano-texture glass and the normal one - *dolphin*
Coming from an ipad pro 12.9 3rd Gen, this is going to be great! I've been holding out for years, but it is time to upgrade. :)
Same!!! The wait is over
Same!
Just stick with the M1/M2 iPad Pro
hi you get this bang on Fernando , as always my friend , you always nail the best and worst things, plus I too have a M1 12.9 I pad pro that does everything I need it to do , so oled , a bit thinner , but it won't because you'll need a good case ,and indeed once you sit down , after that awe of opening new kit , it will be the same old fashioned OS , so I will wait till June to see , and thats down to you , for superior advice well done
🐬-- also only noticed the stain on your shirt right at the end 😂
Can't wait to get my iPad Pro delivered. Got the 1TB version with standard glass. Gonna use it for work as a designer. I was skeptical on how durable the nanotexture is so I might just use Paperlike.
🐬 Ordered a base level 11 Pro to replace my current A12Z 11 Pro from 2020. Excited for the better display and M-series chip, and hope it will last me another 4-5 years without too much degradation in batter life. Current iPad struggles to make it 4-5 hours on battery.
I have the 2020 iPad Pro and while it is great still i wanted the landscape camera so i had to byte the bullet.
great review 🐬
the iPad Air should have at least a 90Hz display refresh rate for that price.
It won't because that alone would kill pro sales. It's the only thing the Airs are missing.
😂😂😂😂🤡
Needs more battery life, smaller bezels, backwards compatibility with accessories, and mac os because ipad os is awful for file management.
My god the amount of cuts in this video is crazy why?
Lighter is better for me. My ipad pro 12.9 is heavy
Typing this in an m1 ipad pro 11’’ which i got just this year. Will use this until it gives up. Then upgrade to an m4 or maybe an m5 when the m7 gets released if that makes sense. Haha
Great, honest overview! 🐬
I’ve been waiting for this event just for the price drop on a 256gb M1 iPad Pro. Arrived yesterday, it’s totally overkill. I’ve been augmenting it as a looper for my guitar modeler with loopy pro, as a controller for midi instruments, and recording 4k live feed. I’m still running a launch M1 MacBook Pro, it keeps up with logic at 64 bit all day. Crazy I now have the same spec in a tablet.
Quite an interesting video.I did not have high expectations for the Apple Let Loose event other than the hardware updates which were correctly leaked days before the event.While the hardware specifications of the iPad Pro new and previous generations are quite impressive and segment leading.The caveat has always been iPad OS and the lack of professional applications.The upcoming WWDC and the impending launch of iOS 18 will greatly effect the upgrade/purchase rate of the new iPad Pros.A key point of note is that the new iPad Pros have only changed the z height of the device,the 13" which is just rounding up from the 12.9" iPad Pro still has the same X and Y dimensions.Bluetooth keyboards such as Brydge Max+ keyboard will still work with the new iPad Pros.
Used and refurbished M2 IPad Pro’s are going to be a crazy value!
🐬it’s definitely the camera being in the side that had me switch from my M2😮💨 even though there’s no MAJOR difference it still a nice feature……only thing I wish Apple would have released is the Smart Folio keyboard case with it too…
I don’t understand the need for anything past M1 in current iPadOS, I’ve had an M1 Air for music production through logic and procreate for art, it has never lagged on anything.
After pricing a NEW 11” Pro and realizing the cost, I am a bit perturbed that the camera does not seem better than my original 2018 11” Pro that I will be upgrading from. How will this affect producing Spatial photos/ videos, as a complement to the VP. I was hoping to have Spatial photo/ video capability on this new 11 Pro or something like a new Mini Pro version…
As of NOW only the iPhone 15 Pro series produces such content outside of VP…
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Thanks for the information bro. Basically I should buy a new MacBook or new laptop
I’m only getting 4 hours on my M1 on pages.
🐬great vid man, thanks!
I think I will wait for wwdc to happen so I know if the 1 TB version with more ram is required if they make iPad Pro m4 compatible with Mac OS. That will be the only reason I would abandon my 2018 iPad Pro 12.9 to upgrade to m4. Improved camera and OLED screen and better pencil are all nice to have but don’t offer me workflow improvements over the 2019. Reminds me of when home stereo hi-fi equipment ‘improved “ year over year with changes in led readouts, product colour styling and the specs AND statistics and graph after graph. More watts, improved sound to noise ratios and noise reduction moving percentage points. You still could only play as Loud as comfortable for your neighbours. The apple marketing speed improvement charts left me scratching my head as to how my productivity would improve over my using 2018 pro. I need a calculator app and I need a preview app to edit screen shots I saved to iCloud or photo roll and I need a file manger and conversion apps to ingest multiple files both pics and audio and video. Otherwise the iPad is just a big phone that lets me quickly answer one off email or check a spreadsheet or a 7 page text document. A just in case machine and not my everyday production machine. 🐬
Nano texture does not fill the whole display panel it’s stupid . It’s better to use protective paper like foil like the bellmond one
The speaker issue worries me. Would be ironic if the 13" air had better speakers than the iPad Pro 13?
I got a M1 iPad Pro and I’m still waiting for that Mac experience… 😂😂
🐬🐬🐬Haven’t had an iPad since 2012. Gave up on it because it’s so clunky and heavy. Finally getting an iPad Pro 11 inch baseline next week. So I can’t really relate to most of you that think this iPad lineup is not great
The m1 iPad Pro 11 inchhas been amazing but it’s starting to feel a bit small. I’m upgrading to the iPad Pro m4 13 inch. Can’t wait for the bigger, better screen
🐬Excited for iPadOS 18 and for the arrival of my new M4 iPad Pro 13 512GB with the new magic keyboard. I don't split atoms with mine, but I use it daily and for travel. I'm a big fan of the versatility and form factor. Got $510 from Apple to trade it my M1 iPad Pro 12.9 with 256GB. Jersey City in the house!
i only have base model 9th gen ipad (and some non apple tablets). was highly considering the m4 pro 13 inch but not really with the deletions unless the screen wows me. I can save my money for when they add wifi 7. i may still be buying the 13inch air and perhaps the pencil pro as well. was considering an m1 or m2 12.9inch pro used ,but now meh since i might want the new accessories to go with a new 13inch pro or air
13 pro ordered. pick up Wednesday! can't wait. have Mac Studio so I love iPad over a MacBook
Too lazy to hunt for the dolphin, but I watched it all the way through. Good video, but did you mention that they took away one of the microphones?
I see that nomad glow band 😂 looks like we both couldn’t snag the matching case
its worth it for the XDR disply on the 11 inch :D also its OLED
I would have upgraded if it had more ports but it’s nothing but a spec bump the redesign was underwhelming too. Lees durable smaller battery no wide angle camera and now have to wait for all new cases for the m4 iPad Magic Keyboard. Since it doesn’t protect your iPad.
I Just want a OLED 13 inch screen 2TB Storage & to store all my iTunes movies. So I can watch my movies on the go.
Just give us a desktop page on ipados that is free of any grid layout. Maybe the last page to the left can be the desktop page where you can paste any kind of files you want, create desktop folders for files you want quick access to. I feel that would help bridge the gap a tiny bit.
That product exists, it’s called Surface Pro, and the ‘tablet mode / desktop mode’ experience was proven to be a train wreck.
Bit of a bummer they took the ultra wide camera away , give with one hand , take awayeth with the other lol.
🐬I will be waiting to see if the thinness is at all an issue before buying.
Cellular models only have eSIM and no physical SIM tray😢
Looking forward to the next MacBook review - it does what the old one did, you have to ask if that’s worth a $1500 update or not. Weird how general MacBook being faster is an important element of choice to upgrade but on iPad it’s downplayed? Most devices you shouldn’t update for several years anyway so at that point it’s good to have a noticeable bump in performance regardless if ipad/macbook/other
🐬🐬🐬 Loving my iPad Pro 11" M2.
Keeping my iPad Pro m2. I’m good
I’m still on my 2020 and while I love the new options, unless the software changes next month I’m not buying one.
Getting the m4 ipad pro means i also need to buy the new pencil and keyboard cause my old ones will not work. The oled display is nice but my m2 ipad pro works just fine, still looks and feels brand new
There are only two reasons to get a new iPad in 2024 since the OS sucks:
1. Your iPad broke and is prohibitively expensive to fix
2. You need more storage and can’t offload enough to iCloud
Even if your battery sucks, you can get that replaced. And as much as the iPad Pro costs, you’re much better off doing that.
Excellent review. In agreement with you regarding iPadOS and how iPadOS 18 will be a defining moment for the iPad system at least for the foreseeable future. But I could not keep waiting. I sold my M1 iPad Pro and got an M3 Macbook Air, all because of the software. Well, maybe we'll have to wait for the post- Tim Cook era.
Multitasking is terrible on the iPad. This is something that really needs improvement.
Dual boot please.
I ordered the new pro. It'll be my first forey into the pro line. If I had a pro already there wouldn't be any need to upgrade. That Oled with 120hz is what really sold me over the air. A portable high quality monitor for creativity like photo editing and video grading is something I'm looking forward to. And the m4 will no doubt last for years considering the comments about the m1 still being more than good enough. 🐬
Obviously I care I am a hardcore gamer and this Ipad is a game Changer for mobile games on the go!
Does anyone ever caveat that when you buy a new MacBook Pro that once you get past the new hardware that it’s still going to feel like macOS? Why is this always something that is said for iPad but never any other computer?
I have an old i-pad and will mostly stay with it.
Nothing has made me think that I am missing out having bought a 15" m3 air. Saw the dolphin!
🐬 …” flabbergasted “ … on a positive note the weather is great today by us in Jersey. Have a good one brother!
If Apple actually offered trade-in credit for perfectly fine accessories like the Magic Keyboard and Apple Pencil (Gen 2) then I'd totally upgrade from my M1 iPad Pro. But they don't, even though they've now made both accessories useless. And selling them myself on eBay or Kijiji isn't exactly ideal and likely won't even sell.
Does it have a calculator yet?
The people are critical, do you really not care that it has the tandem OLED? OLED screens are just soooooo much better and double layer for extra brightness, how is anyone saying this isn’t a huge improvement? (You just clearly have no care for screen display quality )
M4 is overkill but that makes it super future proof.
I thought future proof was a good investment but then I considered: What happens if Apple releases an M5 iPad in 12 months or 24 months that also runs MacOS or some version of that within iPadOS but Apple then LOCKS that in the latest models not today's models which run the same OS as eg iPad 9th Generation for example.
I think it's better to go cheap/budget - save money and upgrade when eventually Apple upgrades the OS - but only for the new models (as they always do)!
@@commentarytalk1446 but again… the OLED (especially tandem OLED) is such a big improvement. OLED screens are just soo much better.
Have an old iPad 9th gen with a cracked screen . . .still working . . . .I can wait till after WWDC and someone. Puts them on sale to then read the reviews a month out with testing and use. Worried the pros are two thin and will bend easily!
🐬I’m still very happy with my 2018 iPad Pro…. I don’t want to shell out or a new magic keyboard. I am tempted to get a M2 Air and new pencil pro and keep my 2018 as my digital sketchbook/ studio computer. I’m also looking to see what refurb prices are like for M2 pros… but then I’m aware that maybe the best idea is to just keep rocking my 2018 until I really need to update.
🐬another great video.
Wait til WWDC for what? Do you people really think they would release the hardware now and then wait till WWDC to add macOS to it? That’s kind of insane isn’t it?
🐬I have a 2019 iPad Pro. For me that's reason enough to upgrade.