Brakes are one of the simplest jobs to do on a car, and the Brembo design used on Maseratis is particularly straightforward. I can’t fathom spending the ridiculous labor markup when its a quick service that can be done on your own driveway or in your own garage. I’d rather save the money on such a simple maintenance procedure and use that money on taking a road trip in my Maserati QP or on performance parts. To change the front pads, it’s as simple as removing one bolt and two pins per brake assembly. To change the front rotors, it’s two more bolts to remove the caliper and a bolt or two on the rotor itself. The rears are similar, but to there is no bolt to remove to just change the rear pads. There are some consumables that need to be used such as thread lock, brake pad anti-squeal grease, and brake cleaner but these are readily available at any auto parts store and are quite inexpensive. The labor is comprised of a few minutes of using simple hand tools, and I opine that the simplicity of the labor involved does not even remotely constitute the labor costs charged by a dealer. The markup on brakes is generally one of the highest labor markups in the automotive world. In the words of a Mercedes-Benz Service Technician, the biggest mistake consumers make when getting new brake pads and/or rotors on their car is letting a dealer overcharge them for a job they can easily do at home. Labor costs vary dramatically from dealership to dealership and from city to city, based on the union and the dealership’s profit margins. Similarly, changing oil at home can be a lot cheaper. For approximately $100 for the oil, filter, o-rings, and crush washer, I can save over $350 on an oil change. My local dealer charges over $450 for an oil and filter change, which is obnoxious in my opinion. I prefer to do my oil changes on more frequent intervals than prescribed by the manufacturer, and I always use Pennzoil Platinum Euro. This isn’t paying to play, it’s being taken advantage of by dealers who assume their customers rarely want to get their hands dirty. I had my Quattroporte into the dealership for a warranty repair and they recommended a brake job, asking nearly $2,800 for installing front and rear pads and rotors. The labor markup is over $1,000. I respectfully declined and decided to do them myself. Yes, brakes are a critical safety system, but it is very difficult to mess up a simple pad and rotor job. Moreover, there are aftermarket parts companies that make exact replacement brake parts for Maserati. As long as they hold a European ECE-R90 certification, you can install aftermarket pads and rotors with confidence. While Brembo is the gold standard in brakes, there exact replacement parts that perform exactly the same for less out of pocket expense without the brand name markup. Always do your homework on a brake manufacturer to see the quality of the product, don’t just follow price. Again, the ECE-R90 certification is very important. TÜV certification is also a plus. Lastly, OEM doesn’t always correspond to best quality. The batteries are an example. Maserati batteries are known to occasionally have deep discharging issues, especially in cold weather. The OEM batteries are prone to dying when the car is parked outside in the winter. After my battery died a few times, I went aftermarket for the bast battery I could possibly find, and the battery I bought is actually better than OEM and about 30% less expensive than OEM for the dealership. And of course, replacing it myself saved on the labor charge. Most often than not, a dealer will not install an aftermarket item such as a battery, even if it is far superior when compared the OEM part. Since I installed the aftermarket battery, I have had zero discharge issues, whereas prior I had been through a few OEM batteries with severe discharging issues.
This is about what I expected for a brake job for this car. Those brakes are the one of the best and something thats vital for stopping the car shouldn’t be cheap at all.
Right! Its worth it if you're going to be using the car how its supposed to be used. At some point in time you're going to put the car to the test and that's when you'll be thankful for the stopping power it provides.
I paid 550 for front rotors and pads, replaced them myself. I owned Audi, Bmw's and the tools are similar. Just stop being lazy and do it yourself. I also replaced my spark plugs in under 30 mins. Next is serpentine and alternator belt. Just take your time and do not be affraid to do it yourself
Here’s a tip also, if you use your brakes a lot, when you come to a stop let the car roll slowly. If you hold on the brakes you’re keeping heat on one part of the rotor from the pads while the rest of the rotor cools down, it can exacerbate warping.
Over 2 grand just for the fronts... wow! It's at times like this when you realise the difference between exotics like Maserati and more mainstream brands like Audi...
If you think owning a Maserati is expensive..... buy a ZLI. Brakes and rotors at 30k miles $ 2500.00- $ 3,500,00. Tires, on its fourth set @ 42k miles- 1,400.00 a set. I was I would have bought a Maserati instead.... I love the ZL1, at least the oil changes are only $ 110.00
Rons Rides highly encourage you to buy a couple tools and learn how to do some things! If you have a mentor it’s not so bad. I replaced the upper control arms on my Audi with OEM parts for $160 when it should have cost almost $800 in parts from a dealership let alone labor!
Rons Rides way higher They charge me $1.500 here in jersey But of course that i didn’t go there, because I tough that was too much money So I went to the dealership and bought the parts and took to my mechanic I ended up paying $1.200 for parts and labor Like you said, it’s a brembo brakes, every mechanic knows how to work on this breaks I did my breaks around 10k miles ago and still amazing No issues or funny noises at all...
The thing is, pads are changed regularly either because of stop-start traffic or performance/track driving. But discs? Below 60K milles or serious degradation causes by salt or water I don’t see the point.
Okay, I guess I was ripped off. My Maserati dealership was going to charge roughly $3,400--$1,700 each for front and back. Now, I do have a Quattroporte, but I can't imagine that would make the brake job that much more expensive. Am I wrong?
Is there some rule of law that says you cannot change your own oil and filter and repair your own brakes? Oil is the same price for all cars per quart. The filter is the only difference. Why are Brembo pads and rotors necessary? Is it the name you are paying for since most of these products now are made in Asia? Are there other names of parts that can be used?
Expected that to be honest. That’s why I learned how to replace the rotors and pads myself on my previous car (BMW 5 Series). Saved a ton of money. I’ll probably figure out how to do it on my Giulia when that time comes.
Ron: I think your numbers are off. My calculations based on your numbers result in a total for front and rear of $2616 plus tax for a total of US$2800 ($1690 for the front and $926 for the rear plus tax).
Looking at getting a used Ghibli SQ4 AWD. I particularly like the 2018 due to the grill redesign. Is there a specific year for the age/deprecation equilibrium. They say usually it is around a five-year-old vehicle but I notice a big difference in price between a 2017 and 2018 as compared to 2018 and 2019.
You can outsource those parts and get them much cheaper!! You have to be crazy to buy parts from maserati dealer the mark up is so high.. so i suggest finding parts elsewhere and having a local mechanic install its not brain surgery!!
Yup you can always do that, when I wasn't with the dealership I bought tires and got them installed cheaper from someone else the first time around. Being at the dealer though I got stuff at cost so it made more sense to get from them while working here.
I dont think so, if so its new to me. If it does that a hell of a deal because I know all new Maserati's get 3 years of free maintenance but I think that's annual service stuff, like oil and filter changes.
tip: use engine braking to reduce pad and rotor wear. protip: use the back of another car to stop without using your brakes at all saving you the cost of pads and rotors* protip adds the cost of a new front end, radiator, and possible engine replacement. joking aside, actually id expected it to be more expensive with the cost of the rotors, but definitely not like getting a $600 honda civic brake pad change.
Careful, Ron. Your practicality side is showing! :) I agree with the pay-to-play perspective. That has certainly held me from diving in with newer performance cars. But a moderately priced E86 Z4/3.0Si Coupe might be in my future. Maybe even the E86 Z4M. ;)
Hi Ron, thanks for the video! I’m wondering whats the rotors and pads price for QP? Are they the same as Ghibli or they are even expensive than Ghibli?
The vent fin gap on the rotors is freaky, I have never heard of one separating, but dang, looks delicate. Someone needs to step up and make a massive as possible battery for them beasts, some cranky rich peep always griping about it sitting for a month and being at -11 volts from whatever draw, prolly alarm system. The Mazzi is no parts store tinkertoy, that is fo-sho!!!
Blows my mind how people complain about the price of a Maserati oil change. It’s once a year!!!!!!! Give me a break. It’s not every 5000km like a regular vehicle. It’s once a year.
Gotta be transparent though. I'd had to keep info from someone just to make a sale. I cant sacrifice my integrity and feel like I'd cheat a customer out of that know-how.
Brakes are one of the simplest jobs to do on a car, and the Brembo design used on Maseratis is particularly straightforward. I can’t fathom spending the ridiculous labor markup when its a quick service that can be done on your own driveway or in your own garage. I’d rather save the money on such a simple maintenance procedure and use that money on taking a road trip in my Maserati QP or on performance parts.
To change the front pads, it’s as simple as removing one bolt and two pins per brake assembly. To change the front rotors, it’s two more bolts to remove the caliper and a bolt or two on the rotor itself. The rears are similar, but to there is no bolt to remove to just change the rear pads. There are some consumables that need to be used such as thread lock, brake pad anti-squeal grease, and brake cleaner but these are readily available at any auto parts store and are quite inexpensive. The labor is comprised of a few minutes of using simple hand tools, and I opine that the simplicity of the labor involved does not even remotely constitute the labor costs charged by a dealer. The markup on brakes is generally one of the highest labor markups in the automotive world. In the words of a Mercedes-Benz Service Technician, the biggest mistake consumers make when getting new brake pads and/or rotors on their car is letting a dealer overcharge them for a job they can easily do at home. Labor costs vary dramatically from dealership to dealership and from city to city, based on the union and the dealership’s profit margins. Similarly, changing oil at home can be a lot cheaper. For approximately $100 for the oil, filter, o-rings, and crush washer, I can save over $350 on an oil change. My local dealer charges over $450 for an oil and filter change, which is obnoxious in my opinion. I prefer to do my oil changes on more frequent intervals than prescribed by the manufacturer, and I always use Pennzoil Platinum Euro. This isn’t paying to play, it’s being taken advantage of by dealers who assume their customers rarely want to get their hands dirty.
I had my Quattroporte into the dealership for a warranty repair and they recommended a brake job, asking nearly $2,800 for installing front and rear pads and rotors. The labor markup is over $1,000. I respectfully declined and decided to do them myself. Yes, brakes are a critical safety system, but it is very difficult to mess up a simple pad and rotor job. Moreover, there are aftermarket parts companies that make exact replacement brake parts for Maserati. As long as they hold a European ECE-R90 certification, you can install aftermarket pads and rotors with confidence. While Brembo is the gold standard in brakes, there exact replacement parts that perform exactly the same for less out of pocket expense without the brand name markup. Always do your homework on a brake manufacturer to see the quality of the product, don’t just follow price. Again, the ECE-R90 certification is very important. TÜV certification is also a plus.
Lastly, OEM doesn’t always correspond to best quality. The batteries are an example. Maserati batteries are known to occasionally have deep discharging issues, especially in cold weather. The OEM batteries are prone to dying when the car is parked outside in the winter. After my battery died a few times, I went aftermarket for the bast battery I could possibly find, and the battery I bought is actually better than OEM and about 30% less expensive than OEM for the dealership. And of course, replacing it myself saved on the labor charge. Most often than not, a dealer will not install an aftermarket item such as a battery, even if it is far superior when compared the OEM part. Since I installed the aftermarket battery, I have had zero discharge issues, whereas prior I had been through a few OEM batteries with severe discharging issues.
This is about what I expected for a brake job for this car. Those brakes are the one of the best and something thats vital for stopping the car shouldn’t be cheap at all.
Right! Its worth it if you're going to be using the car how its supposed to be used. At some point in time you're going to put the car to the test and that's when you'll be thankful for the stopping power it provides.
I paid 550 for front rotors and pads, replaced them myself. I owned Audi, Bmw's and the tools are similar. Just stop being lazy and do it yourself. I also replaced my spark plugs in under 30 mins. Next is serpentine and alternator belt. Just take your time and do not be affraid to do it yourself
Here’s a tip also, if you use your brakes a lot, when you come to a stop let the car roll slowly. If you hold on the brakes you’re keeping heat on one part of the rotor from the pads while the rest of the rotor cools down, it can exacerbate warping.
I just paid £70 to change front break pads compared to the quote I got from Maserati of £500 rip if they are
3 brake jobs in 30k miles on the ghibli. 10k for the life of brakes is ridiculous
I like the Quick Stop.. That why i don't mind paying for those breaks
Right? Brakes are something so overlooked when it comes to performance vehicles.
Over 2 grand just for the fronts... wow! It's at times like this when you realise the difference between exotics like Maserati and more mainstream brands like Audi...
Who has a friend who knows someone at a shop who said he'll do it 150 bucks.
If you think owning a Maserati is expensive..... buy a ZLI. Brakes and rotors at 30k miles $ 2500.00- $ 3,500,00. Tires, on its fourth set @ 42k miles- 1,400.00 a set. I was I would have bought a Maserati instead.... I love the ZL1, at least the oil changes are only $ 110.00
Just payed 750 dollars for front and rear pads at a maserati dealer here in germany.
Most people will pay it so why not? I'll buy rotors and pads from formula dynamics and do it in a driveway. Ha
Lol good on you Rob, I dont have that kind of know-how. Saves you so much not having a middle man when it comes to labor.
Rons Rides highly encourage you to buy a couple tools and learn how to do some things! If you have a mentor it’s not so bad. I replaced the upper control arms on my Audi with OEM parts for $160 when it should have cost almost $800 in parts from a dealership let alone labor!
Thats very expensive was that just the front
Higher than you expected or lower than you expected for a Maserati brake job?!
Rons Rides way higher
They charge me $1.500 here in jersey
But of course that i didn’t go there, because I tough that was too much money
So I went to the dealership and bought the parts and took to my mechanic
I ended up paying $1.200 for parts and labor
Like you said, it’s a brembo brakes, every mechanic knows how to work on this breaks
I did my breaks around 10k miles ago and still amazing
No issues or funny noises at all...
Definitely too expensive. I went to Maserati of Long Island and it's much cheaper
The thing is, pads are changed regularly either because of stop-start traffic or performance/track driving. But discs? Below 60K milles or serious degradation causes by salt or water I don’t see the point.
The salt etc is a big problem in northern states because of the salt on the road and same with the salt here in the air here in Florida.
Where did you get the Maserati brake pads? Is the dealership the only place to get them
Okay, I guess I was ripped off. My Maserati dealership was going to charge roughly $3,400--$1,700 each for front and back. Now, I do have a Quattroporte, but I can't imagine that would make the brake job that much more expensive. Am I wrong?
Check out chevy dude video his dealership bought a 2014 Bentley and spent $4,000 on the brakes! Pads and rotors!
Yiiiiiikes!
I pay $79 for mine, including labor because I do it myself.
😂😂😂.
Where are you because I need you to do mine too! 🥺🙏🏽
@@genasutton2130
Mechanic here.
@@ChiffonaRayActs
New York
Is there some rule of law that says you cannot change your own oil and filter and repair your own brakes? Oil is the same price for all cars per quart. The filter is the only difference. Why are Brembo pads and rotors necessary? Is it the name you are paying for since most of these products now are made in Asia? Are there other names of parts that can be used?
Just paid 3750 for brakes and rotors I'm in Manhattan 2 year maintenance all together 5100$
Expected that to be honest. That’s why I learned how to replace the rotors and pads myself on my previous car (BMW 5 Series). Saved a ton of money. I’ll probably figure out how to do it on my Giulia when that time comes.
Im curious on what the price is on the steel brakes for Alfa. I dont think we've done a brake job on one yet which is a good thing lol.
If your car is still under factory warranty then I would strongly advise against doing the work yourself as you'll void your manufacturer warranty!
heeroy7 how on earth would doing my own brakes affect any warranty?
Ron: I think your numbers are off. My calculations based on your numbers result in a total for front and rear of $2616 plus tax for a total of US$2800 ($1690 for the front and $926 for the rear plus tax).
My calculation was like yours. I think his words were correct, but the writing on the video was wrong.
Just got quoted 2800 from dealership.... NOPE... thats ridiculous...
Looking at getting a used Ghibli SQ4 AWD. I particularly like the 2018 due to the grill redesign. Is there a specific year for the age/deprecation equilibrium. They say usually it is around a five-year-old vehicle but I notice a big difference in price between a 2017 and 2018 as compared to 2018 and 2019.
Do you have to use brembo brakes?
I also love the $600+ oil change on the QP
You can outsource those parts and get them much cheaper!! You have to be crazy to buy parts from maserati dealer the mark up is so high.. so i suggest finding parts elsewhere and having a local mechanic install its not brain surgery!!
Yup you can always do that, when I wasn't with the dealership I bought tires and got them installed cheaper from someone else the first time around. Being at the dealer though I got stuff at cost so it made more sense to get from them while working here.
Some places wont touch high end cars
The new lease program covers full brake job because of the new warranty right ?
I dont think so, if so its new to me. If it does that a hell of a deal because I know all new Maserati's get 3 years of free maintenance but I think that's annual service stuff, like oil and filter changes.
tip: use engine braking to reduce pad and rotor wear.
protip: use the back of another car to stop without using your brakes at all saving you the cost of pads and rotors*
protip adds the cost of a new front end, radiator, and possible engine replacement.
joking aside, actually id expected it to be more expensive with the cost of the rotors, but definitely not like getting a $600 honda civic brake pad change.
Bahahah I was reading through these cracking up lmao. When I first got the car I honestly thought the job would be like $4,000.
Why change discs dude..they be fine
Fuck me lol am thinking about getting a Maserati so am trying to get some info for this car
Careful, Ron. Your practicality side is showing! :) I agree with the pay-to-play perspective. That has certainly held me from diving in with newer performance cars. But a moderately priced E86 Z4/3.0Si Coupe might be in my future. Maybe even the E86 Z4M. ;)
Haha from here on out call me Practicality Peter LOL
@@RonsRides now you'll have a little extra to invest in your next $million! :D
Hi Ron, thanks for the video! I’m wondering whats the rotors and pads price for QP? Are they the same as Ghibli or they are even expensive than Ghibli?
The vent fin gap on the rotors is freaky, I have never heard of one separating, but dang, looks delicate. Someone needs to step up and make a massive as possible battery for them beasts, some cranky rich peep always griping about it sitting for a month and being at -11 volts from whatever draw, prolly alarm system. The Mazzi is no parts store tinkertoy, that is fo-sho!!!
Parts store tinkertoy. I may use that saying hahaha,
Brakes on da bus
Brakes on ya car
Brakes to make you a super star. These are da brakes. Ole skool rap is cheaper!
LOL love it Keith.
Blows my mind how people complain about the price of a Maserati oil change. It’s once a year!!!!!!! Give me a break. It’s not every 5000km like a regular vehicle. It’s once a year.
2:20 yw
1850.00 for the front 1250.00 for the back..quattroporte
Torrie Walker Hi buddy, just wondering $1850 are they inc both front disc and pads?
Rotors brakes I paid 4200 with oil change thrown in I guess 🤷🏽♂️just changed them in December
What a joke, maserati brake job is like $300 dollars worth the parts learn how to change your brakes yourself.
If you don’t buy another Maserati you’re done.
Lol yup.
how much is service fee + filters and oil change and only break pads service for ghibli
$1200 USD for parts and DIY. Brakes are brakes...not rocket science, nothing special
Me ontenz Your mom is rocket science, ooh got em!
Maserati’s are beautiful cars but god damn I couldn’t keep up with the repairs.
Crazy thing is, it gets worse as you move up in car brand/price.
AHHHAHAH. Now your asking for Patreon members? ROTFL!!!
Bro I Hate to tell you this but you might scare off some potential buyers for your car with this video, but good info nonetheless.
Gotta be transparent though. I'd had to keep info from someone just to make a sale. I cant sacrifice my integrity and feel like I'd cheat a customer out of that know-how.
@@RonsRides YES!!! Before I saw your comment I planned on commenting "Have you ever met a more honest sales guy? I'd buy from him anytime!" :D
Yikes!
Gotta be able to stop from 177mph to 0
Thank you. And...pass
cheap ass
i do for peopel for $500
Lol do it yourself