MANUFACTURED IN GERMANY: Freedom on Wheels - The home of luxury motorhome | WELT Documentary
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- Although motorhomes are not inexpensive, the camping market is booming. The flexibility and freedom of a vacation home on wheels appeals to many travel enthusiasts. Particularly high-quality models can cost more than 100,000 euros, depending on the equipment. What models are available and how are the mobile vacation homes manufactured? This report shows the production of a luxury mobile home.
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European RVs may be small, but the built quality is superb! American RVs are big, but they build RVs like grandpa's or grandma's houses, especially the interiors.
In North America most of the motor homes are built with the worst quality. 1-2 years after you buy them, they are in the shop for 3-8 months for yearly repairs. Problem is you have 5 different systems, electrical, mechanical, plumbing etc. These motor homes are built by essentially 3rd parties not a real car company, ie like Mercedes. They source bits and pieces from all over to make a money pit on wheels.
You can say that again mate
Not if they're used to cook blue meth 🤣
Same in UK including motorhomes imported from abroad. Also caravans, held together with mastic and staples! Everything these days is fast and faster, quick as possible grab the money.
Under warranty you have to return them from where it was bought, even if it was hundreds of miles away! Unlike cars there are no main agents.
Annual services arent services, its no more than confirm things are working!
You pay what u get
@@alo1236546 unfortunately, North American RVs are not cheap.
The engineering behind building one of these is just absolutely fascinating !
Why do people use engineer as a verb for people who are not engineers? just say designing
@@GOLDVIOLINbowofdeath I'm pretty sure a several engineers work on designing these in collaboration with architects
It’s noticeable that the employees aren’t running while banging staple guns like in a video tour of a popular brand made in Elkhart. That video made it obvious why our products turn out as they do Even sped up the employees in this video are moving at a more respectable pace than they do here in the good old USA
strongly recommend a video on all terrain camper vehicles . . . for e.g. Bliss MOBIL, Unicat, Action Mobil, Krug Expedition & Global Expedition Vehicles etc . . .
The American manufacturers are not even close in build quality!
American manufacturers compete on opulence and features, Europeans on engineering. It basically comes down to much more lenience toward weight and size in the USA. The top model of Knaus here has a gross vehicle weight of 11,000 lbs. A Winnebago of the same length has a GVWR of 14,5000 lbs.
@@Lonestar24 Opulence and features? Dude, you need to get yourself to a European RV show (the stuff there is freaking amazing) to see what real opulence and features look like instead of gaudy, inefficient and clunky, grandma-style shit we produce here for pretty much the same money.
@@choosumfat You may have misunderstood me.
I'm speaking of things like slideouts, large fridges, generators, plushy couches, elaborate 110 volt nets and large solar arrays, air conditioning , all kinds of exterior hookups, powerful and 4x4 options.
And they can do it because it's not a huge problem to live with a 30ft 15000lbs vehicle in large parts of the USA.
That most of them are designed like Granny's underwear is a pity, but that wasn't really the point.
Yes, you can have all that in some euro RVs, but it is uncommon, and in the US it is. The *common* euro RV is much more limited in size and weight, and hence has to be clever to make the most of these limits. It's a fundamental difference in the approach.
@@Lonestar24 I actually did not. You can have slide-outs (some much more interesting that what we have), larger fridges and elaborate everything. It's just a question of money. And as for them being common here, arguable. Most are just run of the mill class B/C with similar extent of basic equipment and capacity. The one pictured here is a 28' Class C equivalent. Sure it is pretty large for European setting (hence DL requirements) but you see them.
Of course there will be differences in what people feel they like or need here vs there, and there will be some extremes, but that does not change the fact that our RVs are little more than slapped together livingrooms on wheels (most actually not more at all). The grandma aspect doesn't so much bother me because of style (whatever floats one's boat) but rather because it's so primitive in design/execution. And while true that across the pond size and weight limitations are far stricter and therefore RVs usually smaller/lighter, they are just as spacious, capacious and comfortable on the inside simply because of - from I have seen and experienced on few occasions of RVing thru France/Spain - so much better use of space and materials. They're way quieter than our typical Chevy or E-450 based RVs, too.
Now it could be I'm talking out of my ass generalizing, I don't own an RV. I do like RVing though and occasionally rent them both in the US/Canada and in Europe and from my experiences, there's really no question which I would rather have (same money really).
A lot of work. No wonder why they are so expensive.
Watching this, you can tell why there aren’t any Formula 1 cars built in Burgerland. They’re made in Europe.
I'm gonna go ahead and repeat Steve Lehto's advice.
"Don't buy an RV"
It's not worth the hassle
Obviously you are interested in motorhomes, otherwise you would not have looked at the report. If you do so with a preconceived opinion, you will only get in your own way and you will never experience the pleasant sides of a free and absolutely self-determined vacation. Of course, there are many bad models on the market but to follow a Steve Lehto, who demonstrably gives his opinion for money, or better demonstrably formulates in the desired direction of his clients is short-sighted. And never generalize everything you hear. Rent a good motorhome for a vacation and experience something very special.
@@gerhardma4687 Perhaps Mr Lehto (an attorney specializing in defective vehicles) should have said "don't buy an American-made RV".
I worked for a few months in the bus factory in Falkirk and it always amazed me seeing a new service bus being created from a rolling shell to a finished service bus so I find videos like this fascinating. 👍
Awesome I didn’t realise how much work went into making these rv’s 👍
RV crash safety is primary in Europe. Not so much in the USA. We are still in the dark ages.
Sorry to say that it is probably the same.
Safety is not priority in Europe.
@@matsstrandberg284 In Europe they crash test RVs. They don’t in the USA.
@@matsstrandberg284 Motorized RVs.
Haha you don’t want to see what happens to these in a crash. Literally no point in a seat belt! Your dead at even low speed crashes that you’d walk away in in a car! Swedish transport agency tested them. Scary!
@@Bonezmi16 Hymer has done extensive crash testing and did very well including children in coach seats. Others no so much.
European regulators have passed even stricter regulations for crash safety and all drivers of RV vehicles including trailers must pass rigorous written and driving tests. The USA only has a few states that require extra training for heavy motorized RVs.
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Sadly because of the way A class Motorhomes are assembled by manufacturers. They become a nightmare for after service. Eg when pumps need replacing or general engine servicing. Also if the fridge needs to be replaced try getting the old fridge out and a new one in. Wake up Motorhome manufacturers PLEASE.
Your not kidding, it's major disassembly time. And the fixings are never as secure once they've been out. All balsa and foam core crap.
These make North American motorhomes look like crappy box trucks with off the shelf Home Depot furnishings. Oh wait, NA motorhomes are crappy box trucks with off the shelf Home Depot furnishings. Never mind.
Why aren't the frames custom ordered? Why cut structural parts off in factory? What kind of high class German engineering is that? Spray painting your radiator is always smart too.
build your own 😂
@@davidnjoroge8495 That has to be one of the dumbest and laziest responses I've read on here in awhile, bud. At what point did I say I could or would? You are defending a company with sketchy and overpriced builds looking at other competitors in the market. Sorry if it hurts your brain to think a little now and then.
mr unknown , you are not worth awnsering. If you do not understand, keep a little distance from the kitchen
I thought the same thing too but since the chassis is built by Fiat it may be more costly by slowing down the production process.
Why masked???
2:40 Has anyone here realized that the door can open left and right?
The German perfection ,respect to this nation .
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Hopefully the German politicians wouldn't allow anyone to destroy the German industry because it will be a big loss for the entire world.
You should do one about Warwick basses and Framus guitars. I can arrange that. Those basses are played by all the famous bassists in the world and the company is based in Germany.
The way this manufacturer builds these RV's is way more professional and caring for their customers than most not all but most manufacturers in the United States, I've owned a few, Starting with a palomino pop up It was ok, to a starcraft toyhauler now this was built tough, then a used 96 mini winnebago that was kinda a half limon the structure was good but all the appliances gave out pretty fast like the generator, frig, microwave, water pump, & the A/C I replaced it after 2 years for a newer 98 jamboree class c also i still have it but now that it's old and I have to get under it to patch it up and after looking at this video my sub floor is made of all kind of patches aluminum triply sheet metal And plastic & Fiberglass and real cheap materials.
Unbelievable ! German manufacturing is really unbelievable in general !!
yikes i forgot RVs have sewage no thanks
you see this is the thing about society. Anyone, besides someone with a severe disability, im saying 99.5% of people can make their own RVs. However, they can't because they are Karens. So the Karens have to go work meaningless jobs like stock broker and US Department of Treasury in order to afford an RV to be happy, completed by savants who literally build the whole thing with a camera on the toilet release. You see what I am saying?? Smart, Hardworking people are so desperate for money, they are willing to do ALL THIS COMPLICATED STUFF for a Karen who only gets paid because there is literally no actual hardworking job they fit into. do you see my point ?
Beautiful great job
These are way less expensive than in North America and way better built!
Ya I was thinking the same thing. Their prices are definitely less with better build quality. But I've noticed since I've purchased my first rv a class b. That rv market in USA has alot of dealer mark up the profit margins seem massive. I see 2023 class b at 203k pre delivery for the new year then like mine I purchased a last year 2022 still on the lot at 129,999... that's a hell of a profit margin not to mention they probably still make money at 130k.
@about 23:00, you mention GVW of the top-line model. I remember back in the 70’s, comparable US models were often right at the vehicle GWL when empty, without passengers and supplies. As you can imagine, when it was exposed, it properly caused an uproar. Where are these finished, but empty, RV’s relative to the manufacturer’s GVWR? It speaks to the braking systems and drive train in general.
Many US RV "manufacturers" are very dodgy.
I am sorry to say. Plus no lemon law protections buyers end up with vehicles in the "shop" for month after month after month. You get what you pay for.
It's such a pity the RV world has such a horrific reputation for reliability and durability. When lightweight, durable, and affordable compete on price, the easiest to sacrifice in the showroom is the length of time the parts will function.
I love Automobile so much and i wish to work in a manufacturing company such as this one day. I currently own a a retail automobile parts shop here in Nigeria but am hoping to study and work in either Canada or Germany. ❤
You need a finished training before going to Canada or Europe. One cannot just come and work.
The craftsmen of Germany have outdone themselves again! Thank you for sharing! Well done.
Let us hope the workforce at Bailey caravans have seen this presentation
This video is about as great as it gets, thank you for making it. 🙏👍
its very interesting to see a crash test for this RV. Its seems very fragile.
Odd. So many instances of using power tools and compressed air and the workers have no eye protection. Especially with the dude laying on his back with the bit driver right above his face? Germany doesn't have OSHA?
The motor homes & RV trailers here in North America are built by after school shop kids? The worst quality you can imagine.
Shows you why they disintegrated on an accident.
Anyone concern about a motor home manufacturer cutting out a structural c-piller without reinforcement? Also, i hope they are using a 2k rattle can paint.
In the US, campers are built to not last. Built like house with 1x1 and just bounces down the road. I think the Motorhomes need to meet DOT as a vehicle, but aside from the cab and the frame, the rest is flimsy.
I wonder if motor homes are crash tested.
In Europe 🇪🇺 motorhomes are crash tested. Quality of there factory build units is high. Wouldn't be scared to buy a 10 or 15 year old of these.
Nowhere was anything structurally important cut out here, that was only the subframe for the tank nozzle, not really to be described as a structural part.
What amazing quality and skill 👏👏
American RV manufacturers need to take note as all of this automation significantly reduces manufacturing costs which lowers the costs to the users. In return it also helps the manufacturers get a better return on their investments also.
All motor homes could be considered a "luxury". But welt is playing real loose with the word luxury in regards to these units. Plywood, plastic trim, spray paint every where.....
And panels bolted together by dowels and screws!
Once the motorhome is on the road with vibrations and shock, surely these panels will slowly become loose over time. That's not what you'd call "luxury", which costs over $100K!
Brabus & Klassen are quality. This is far from it..
When you look at the number of systems onboard it's most definitely luxury...much more complex than most homes and in a small space. Material choice is about weight saving, something that's irrelevant in a house. No Italian marble in this vehicle.
I was really surprised how the radiator was painted in situ. I am not sure how long these are intended to last though.
@@mattnoyes7729 I'm more commenting on build quality. Rattle can spray paint, sawzall's being used everywhere, tape..... Now this is completely on the other end of the spectrum, but check out how a Newell, or Prevost is built out.
The problem with this type of construction is the vehicles interior can easily disintegrate in an accident, Plastic clips holding furniture board together might be a cheap and quick way to assemble them but can allow everything to fly apart and head towards the occupants especially in a head on collision.
If you want to see how a bespoke vehicle should be assembled for true occupant safety watch how modular Ambulances are put together, most cabinets are bolted and glued into place.
Exactly. Seems there is a zero safety. That why I didnt see any offical crash test of RVs.
This is helpful for anybody designing their own DIY RV.
I need to buy one as my traveling home
then when it gets to dealer, the sales people take time brakeholding redline in hopes of roasting the tires and drifting around the parking lot... they left out the part where they take the rv to taco bell and test out the toilets
Very soon this factory shall be producing horse drawn carriages (because of increased energy prices and de-industralisation) but state of the art (old habits die hard)
People that buy 100k+ leisure vehicles don't have to care about gas prices.
Fabricais productos con muy baja calidad. Y los precios son desorbitantes. Ahora comprarse ese vehículo es pagar un precio exagerado . Habéis quitado mucha calidad de aislamientos . Eso sí todo muy bonito, pero no valen ni para tomar por culo.Enhorabuena por los elevados beneficios
If it's German built quality will be the best they know there stuff
These are more difficult to assemble than cars. Even at €120,000 they are good value considering the cost of materials, labour and general production and design costs. Better value than many over expensive EVs.
Massive respect to all the engineers working on boad to produce such an amazing vehicle for customers...
Can you imagen getting in an accident in that thing with wall's made of paper-thin aluminum and foam did you ever watch Chash test's on RV'S IF NOT DO SO.
@@philipstreechon4523 тоже об этом подумал ☺️👍
@@philipstreechon4523. Have you ever seen what a tornado does with houses , Big trucks and cows ?
Made of glue and foam. And they make fortunes selling these.
Knaus are really, really well made... I've built a few very special order semi truck trailers that have had Knaus top units fitted to them.
For those wondering they were B-Double race car transporters, the A trailer was fitted out as a motor home, but we only built the chassis for that and Knaus sent us bolt on units. Considering they came all the way from Germany to Australia, they bolted up first time with zero need for mods. They were perfect. A very rare thing in multi factory manufacturing.
My gas connection in my new mobile home was not screwed on correctly after a short time gas leaked out. Thank God I happened to be present.
Bad Work from KNAUS🤮🤮🤮
@@m.2085 Germans gassing people? Say it isn’t so!
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This build quality is impressive. Truth is some of the leading US manufacturers are very dodgy. US law does not support any kind of lemon law protection when it comes to RVs. There are some heart breaking stories of Americans investing their retirement and life savings into disgracefully built RVS. If it comes to me I will make the trip to Germany, and look hard at the warranty and customer support available. Buyer beware when it comes to motor homes. REALLY.
What is a lemon law protection?
@@Gexmini Lemon Law varies some from state to state in the specifics but the jist is that if you new car gets sent back to the manufacturer or even the shop a certain number of times for repairs, maybe three times, and if this causes new car buyers to be without THAT car (no loaners allowed) for a certain period of time , check in your state maybe, THEN the DEALER MUST replace the entire vehicle with a brand new car, BRAND NEW, no Questions asked. The car becomes known as a lemon which they could not fix in a timely fashion. . All US car companies to you. RV companies weezled out of the law and can just keep "fixing" your problem for years, which they do. Lehto is an expert at LEMON LAW.
Wow i thought my Jayco was built well now i wonder. I wish we could buy these in US spec
@@Gexmini In the U.S. if a NEW vehicle gets sent back to the dealership something like three times in the first year for long (specified) periods of time, the law permits owner to declare (with appropriate receipts) that the vehicle is "a lemon." This may not be the legal term. All dealerships of new cars AND trucks in the U.S. have to (and DO) take back and replace the entire vehicle. You may need an attorney who is a Lemon Law specialist like Steve Lehto in Michigan, but maybe not. They say this law has had a dramatic effect on lazy build quality in the US (recent GMC disgraces aside). RV "manufacturers" who don't really manufacture, they assemble and re-do things at an effectively structural level, managed to lobby themselves an exception to this consumer protection. Buying an RV is a VERY risky proposition. You need any warranty related promises in a legal document.
Now, after I wrote my answer I see that you very astutely covered the subject perfectly.
The thing is literally made out of cardboard, styrofoam, plastic and held together with zip ties, tape and glue. Costs $90k somehow..
Crash tests
amazing work welt
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They sure don't build them like they used to. I would hate to get into an accident in that thing because it would look like a drink can or foam exploded all over the road mixed with "high quality" plastic. When you have to lift the frame to screw the foam wall to it you would think someone would think maybe this isn't strong enough to last but as they said reducing weight is their primary concern.
great all this german engineering on italian fiat ducato successful platform!
...and we hate them. They fill up entire car parks and don't contribute tourism very much.
If I had the means to do so I’d have my dream motor home designed by the French, welded by the Russians, engine would be italian and put together by the germans
why, please why, please explain this insistence on your narrator using the term "so called", i have watched several of your videos and the narrator seems to have some pathologic need to use this term. does he in fact know what the term is used for ? i doubt it
so called= "You use so-called to indicate that you think a word or expression used to describe someone or something is in fact wrong. ".. I.E. "she could trust him more than any of her so-called friends"
so if this narrator stating that what these manufacturers is saying or calling there products services etc etc is wrong ?
to have lets say a fuse box, and say "this is a so called fuse box", just sound stupid.. it is a fuse box because that is what it is, if it was made of chocolate then you could maybe use the term, but most sensible humans would call it a chocolate fuse box, to say an item is a so called inverter when the item is in fact an inverter is to imply the item isnt in fact a full on inverter, you imply it is something else that maybe could possibly also be inverter like in function
stop it, just no, your so called narrator need to cut it the so called hell out
American RV manufacturers will never allow European RV into US without high tariffs
These seem to be Ok, but definitely not luxury.
because those are made for middle class
@@shaclo1512 it stated they were luxury though.
@@ricardoxelmundo5330 I know but it's not. Those are mass production RVs, only "luxury" model from that brand but not upper class luxury.
I definitely wouldn’t buy a fibreglass motor home after watching this, no wonder they start falling apart the day they leave the factory 😂
I wouldn't say they fall apart, but they certainly aren't rigid.
You should see the crap show of American RV building, then.
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How about the crash superstructure for the cabin? This looks like a floppy plastic cover with no reinforcements in it like the original cabin on a Fiat Ducato.
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Sad here in the US it looks like it is build it as fast as we can, ship it and have any problems found after being sold by the new owner fixed on their time waiting on parts from the factory , which may take months A lots of water leaks are fixed by the new owners just because of the wait time at the dealers..
Nothing compare to an Andrade Camper, Orla or a Esterel!
Do the interior fittings enhance the structure rigidity?
Yes.
Only plastic, and nothing for any safety on road, unbelievable! This is like bike on autobahn!
Use of spray cans for painting radiators and rust prevention coatings? LOL. It's a joke, right?
Stupid head and tail lights.
I so want to work in a place like this. I love RVs so I'm sure it will be fun most of the time.
A fun fact is that Knaus', Adria's, Hobby's, or any other manufacturer's "superior models", are pretty similar to KABE's entry level models...
That becoming more popular because people are finding cheaper Ways to Live it's getting harder and harder to pay rent to buy a house so people are downsizing the world Delight reminding people are and they find the cheaper way to live and they don't have to work so hard in doing so except please these new camper trailers are made and made cheaply which means that light and cheaply made but they're expensive to buy but they crap
A very good and informative video, pure class and quality build although the whole body seems to be very britle and only for the extremely smooth roads found in Europe. Driving such an RV over the roads of Africa will rattle it to little tiny pieces left all over the road. The narator should however avoid using the words "so called" as it gets to be very impersonal.
Nobody goes to Africa anyway.
Well yes, you will clearly select a truck-based expedition vehicle to tackle the wilds.
Not going to fare well in the UK either, Going to change GB to GP great potholes.
@@skatesneakerlover Are you serious Mr Ignoramus esq? Africa is the place to be and folks from all over the world are flooking there for holidays and investments. I can host you in my hut if you want to pay a visit.
@@tomlepski8306 Hmmmm, you've obviously never been there. If there was a 7th world country, Africa would be it.
If luxury, likely rich may buy but how many times do they use it. If it's for middle income cost is a concern besides living for 20 years off-grid ... Where you gonna dump the waste from toilet? Cost difference and usability; manufactured in Germany versus cost of manufacturing in Asian country - There are advantages & disadvantages especially for tech-nomad.
Fantastic job
All too expensive… sad to have sold my old 1982 knaus camper… wish I still have it..😢😢😢😢Furthermore the accessibility of water and electrical systems is difficult for future additions and or fault finding and correcting. Would cost a lot of man hours…. 😂😂😅😅😅 but anyway thanks for the video even translated the German…
I need a minimum of 1000 RuVs/Caravans/MotorHomes.
JUST because it is spelt chassis, doesn't mean you pronounce it that way; it is French like Champagne - NO ONE says CHAMP-pagneee except children!
are these tested for North-east, North-west, South-east, South-west monsoons, respectively 👀 and what about during heavy summers, heavy turbulent winds, cyclones & floods ?
why dont american rv manufacturers make them like this?
Because they have more respect for the customer
@@vidguy007 Because in the USA everything has to be huge, oversized, gas-guzzling and inefficient to please the loudmouthed, ignorant and arrogant American.
Because american companies have more freedom in weight and size of the RV, and thus can have a completely different approach to their design. In the US, features and opulence sells. In Europe, clever engineering wins.
@@vidguy007 Turning out shit is respectful? The coach seen in this video left the plant with seemingly zero assembly defects. American RVs leave with scores to hundreds.
The prices seem very cheap compared to American RV's. Granted there are no slides.
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The Dream from the pensionaer, only ones free...like homeless in Los Angeles....
This line is good for building. Easy installation. But must be hell to work on for repairs in the later life.
47:13 It's good they blur the company name. Not give the company too much airtime here:p
I love Germany!
Fortunately, as heavy duty truck mechanic I was able to avoid working on motorhomes most of the time. Some truck shops won't even entertain working on them. They're just a money loser for the shop. The motorhomes based on class 8 tractor chassis look like they might be a little better. Seems like a good idea to rent one if you want one occasionally. As it said with a lot of toys. The Best Day is when you buy it and when you sell it.
they would walk around the shop see what i was dong see the real price & the one i added to it an wanted to skip there repairs an go for the new cars or trucks but i would point inside the door glass WHATS ON THE INSIDE MIRROR? april fools day lol.
After all the German engineering, Body seems very weak.
I thought made in Germany very good quality left me to ... with expensive hilton massage chair that rather give pain to back to not use over again
no good rv camper builder without a mercedes sprinter,this one is boring
I’ve customized mine as a rolling meth lab.
Cutting away bits of body metal and slapping a bit of rust proofer on with a brush & then rattle-canning it 😂
lol . . . . @12:04, wonder if that includes the gray water too? . . . . that would suck.
Yes, it does. And while it would suck a bit, it's not supposed to happen on the regular.
Black water tank you'd typically protect with a special liquid.
If you store it at freezing temperatures with full tanks and without plugging it in, yeah, sorry, that mess is on you. ;)
Way better quality than the crap we build in the United States.
Not like the crap built in the US.
You can say that again the quality is very poor and in the where it is made is to keep you running back to the deal
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