La música llega, donde las palabras no pueden hacerlo. Esto es la teología de la música. Aprecio y agradezco esta bella y noble interpretación. Un abrazo desde el municipio de Bello en Antioquía Colombia.
That's it. A cappella singing can seem very sparse and bare, like the California approach to vegetarianism (too. much. lettuce.). This is more analogous to vegetarianism as practiced in India, where they have 5000 years of practice and have learned how to make it satisfying.
I've been listening to this version too! I have it bookmarked and Wayback Machine has something to say about it: web.archive.org/web/20170810033032if_/ua-cam.com/video/65_5pw0ThXE/v-deo.html Description says that it's the version recorded in 2002 by Choir of Solo Singers of St. Petersburg Philharmonic Society, conducted by Olga Stupneva. Now you (and me) can look up the CD! www.discogs.com/Sergei-Vasilyevich-Rachmaninoff-Liturgy-of-St-John-Chrysostom-Op-31/release/7994217
I still have not found the liturgy sung by Spiritan monchs in Knechtsteden near Cologn in the sixties. It's a recording on Harmonia Mundi. I should probably upload it.
The cantor is amazing. It's Old Slavonic, so if you speak Russian or Ukrainian, you can get some of it. If you understand the order of an orthodx or high catholic service, you will know the structure.
@@pictopoezia only rarely. This liturgy was never accepted by the synod because it was too individualistic. He learned his lesson and later composed probably his greatest work: the justly famous vespers (all-night vigil), which was accepted and is very often used in services, both in full and in parts.
Majestically, POWERFUL, Music! The very Logos of God---- does---- come alive in these, lofty, sounds, which sweem up towards---- GOD!!!! These heavenfy sounds---- DO---- bring Humans towards The One, True God and His Most Mother---- The Most Holy Immaculate, Ever Immaculate Cocenption of The Ever Virgin Mary: Daughter of God, The Father, Mother of God, Jesus, The Christ, and, WIFE, of God, The Holy Spirit, Who is so---- INFINITELY---- HOLY, that the only sin that SHALL NEVER HAVE FORGIVENESS- Is : BLASPHEMY AGAINST THE HOLY SPIRIT!!!! AMEN+ AMEN+
Because this is how liturgy actually is in the church. It isnt just the choir singing constantly for all of liturgy. It's actually a lot of call and response between the deacon, priest, and choir. Only in certain circumstances do the choir continue whilst the chanting is happening.
@@ado1934 NO Serbian Orthodox Church had EVER existed before 1947 and NO so-called United Serbian Orthodox Church had EVER existed before 1922. The only orhodox church which, before the end of WWI, had a national adjective in its name was the Greek Orthodox Church. The forerunner of the Croatian Orthodox Church was the Karlovac (Srijemski Karlovci) archbishopric, as a part of the Orthodox Church of the Austro-Hungarian Monarchy, whose patriarch held the title "Croatian patriarch", and Srijemski Karlovci was a part of the Austro-Hungarian Monarchy until 1918, and unfortunately became a part of Serbia only in 1946. Even officially, there are already close to 20,000 Croats who declared themselves to be of the Orthodox faith in the last year's population census. Pavelić was a STATESMAN, so he knew that with the creation of a new state, a new church is born, while Tuđman and his successors are TRAITORS, so either they don't know it, or they pretend not to know it.
@@ado1934 And where was Serbia between the Berlin Congress and 1918 ? SOUTH of the Danube, certainly. After the Berlin Congress, Serbia was NOT completely independent, but a VASSAL of Austria-Hungary. That's why the Obrenovićes were killed in 1903. For whose interest ? For the interest of Britain and France. So, vassals again. Pavelić was NOT a National Socialist (the nonsense word "Nazi" was invented by Hitler's enemies), just as Milan Nedić was NOT one. Today, the evidence of the crimes of the so-called partisans is EVERYWHERE (throughout ex-Yugoslavia), while the evidence of the alleged crimes of Pavelić and Nedić is NOWHERE.
Spelled with 3 o's--khorosho. In Russian both a and o when unaccented are pronounced as a shwa : khuhruhshow. In Cyrillic this simple and elegant. Transliterations suck.
Some participants in the comments made me very sad 😢 Why don't you go in "kafana" and argue the politics?..... Let the rest of us enjoy the beautiful Rachmaninoff liturgy and be in God's presence 🙏❤️🙏
Frankly speaking, his piano works never attracted me . But on the contrary , i die for his liturgic works.....They are perfect and amazing as well and they touch my heart so easily. He is superb in that section. Good job.
Rachmaninoff piano compositions is not my style. But i adore Scarlatti, Bach, Beethoven piano works. But i don't like Debussy piano works and other composers either. Simply, it's a matter of style.
@@raffitorossian6994 then you might like busoni's fantasia contrappuntistica and many of feinberg's works, as they both liked bach a lot (and quoted him in their works). btw, what do you think of schumann?
this one aint Rachmaninoff, i tried to download the full score from imslp and sound really different. So i searched thoroughly this version is composed by Ukrainian composer, Kyrylo Stetsenko
H-M H is probably correct. But since this is the first time I have listened to Rachmaninoff's version I am certainly no expert. Here is one performance of Ukranian composer Kyrylo Stetsenko's version. ua-cam.com/video/UMV64XnxE70/v-deo.html As if there isn't enough confusion yet, Tchaikovsky also had his earlier version by the same name but Opus 41. Here is one version of it: ua-cam.com/video/DmM4i7rj_3g/v-deo.html This and the other two composers versions I gave the URLs for are all different. I gave "Alf the Alien" the name of the performance of Rachmaninoff that an Amazon shopper said was the most authentic: Kansas City Chorale conducted by Charles Bruffy (Nimbus 5497/8).
@@henryhertzhobbit4343 thank you for taking the time for this very detailed answer. I am looking forward to explore and enjoy the links you have provided!
@Tsuchikiyo Tsu This is definitely Rachmaninoff's Liturgy of St John's Chrysostom. I sang it with a choir (Hart House Chorus) in 1999, and later that year we toured the Baltic and sang it at Smolny Cathedral in St Petersburg. ua-cam.com/video/tlff0Rr2T_4/v-deo.html
@@pter7531 No one is calling for a war. Its just a statement of facts. One cannot be an orthodox and call for a war. This is nonsense, as love is the most important thing here.
@@pter7531 What can be true if it's not also pure? Truth itself is pure by its very nature, and the more impure or corrupt something is, it is said to become filled with the very corrupting institutions and behaviors that lead to its invariable decline. Then truth isn't something which is sacred, and without it's inerrant sacredness it is a joke not worthy of respect let alone acknowledgment of its existence. For if truth does not exist how can a lie be proven to exist or not exist? For, I'd rather be proud of something that ends up being wrong, then to be a nihilist who values nothing to keep a tepid sense of peace which isn't sacred because nothing is in our modern nihilistic world. The mentality that starts wars is that one has a right to stop others from living as they wish when they AREN'T forced to live among you. For this is where teaching children a fair sense of boundaries and discipline is a necessity in any civilized society, as I come from a background where my mother is Russian by blood and father Jewish here in the states. And there were times the fights can be intense, yet they haven't had physical altercations and they stay together through thick and through thin. Because it is about something deeper and higher than the here and now or pure feelings: truth is what matters. So when this individual says the only true religion is orthodoxy I tend to agree. Whether it is Jewish, Muslim, Christian, Hindu, Jain, (whatever the ideology is) by keeping something pure you are truly offering actual choices to individuals who haven't committed to anything yet, because they can clearly be given the ability to analyze, compare and contrast the information they can see and quantify it. For by giving free choice, one has a sense of being respected and not mistreated. For it is normally mistreated people who rise up and rebel against their oppressors which is a signifier of a major societal event such as a war. For the nature of oppression is to deny an alternative, to deny one choice and by twisting the truth and making everything watered down you have essentially devalued its inherent sacredness and thereby the sacredness of its followers and people which would cascade into a calamitous effect to where nobody has meaning or value anymore. And at this point people who are desperate to be heard amongst the oppressive chaos and silence which is the tyranny of nihilism lash out and it creates a war. Folks, we've been down this road before in declining empires in history. Let's not repeat this!
to think that two greatest Russian composers (in my humble opinion) composed Holy Liturgies......Memory Eternal!
La música llega, donde las palabras no pueden hacerlo. Esto es la teología de la música.
Aprecio y agradezco esta bella y noble interpretación. Un abrazo desde el municipio de Bello en Antioquía Colombia.
Bóg zapłać za chwilę wspaniałych modlitwnych pfzeżyć!
The beauty of the Orthodox liturgy--pure voices...no instruments. The voices are the instruments in themselves.
That's it. A cappella singing can seem very sparse and bare, like the California approach to vegetarianism (too. much. lettuce.). This is more analogous to vegetarianism as practiced in India, where they have 5000 years of practice and have learned how to make it satisfying.
WOW, that was deep! When the deep voices began right at the beginning it sent chills down my spine!
@@christosvoskresye are you on drugs?
@@christosvoskresye very accurate comparison!
The russian synod did not accept this work.
Большой и величественный !
Grand et majestueux !
Nice, atmospheric music - rows of singers and candlelights in heavenly domain.
Absolutely Stunning! That's the only word I can find to describe this Masterpiece!
les merveilles sont pour Dieu.Merci de nous les faire partager.
Makes me feel close to the Lord!
Meraviglioso! La voce di Dio!
How amazing and beautiful!! Thank you for impressive songs & God bless you^^ From Korea.
Divine
This seems to be the closest in comparison to an album which was deleted from YT a year or so ago that I've loved for several years. Thank you
I've been listening to this version too! I have it bookmarked and Wayback Machine has something to say about it:
web.archive.org/web/20170810033032if_/ua-cam.com/video/65_5pw0ThXE/v-deo.html
Description says that it's the version recorded in 2002 by Choir of Solo Singers of St. Petersburg Philharmonic Society, conducted by Olga Stupneva. Now you (and me) can look up the CD!
www.discogs.com/Sergei-Vasilyevich-Rachmaninoff-Liturgy-of-St-John-Chrysostom-Op-31/release/7994217
I still have not found the liturgy sung by Spiritan monchs in Knechtsteden near Cologn in the sixties. It's a recording on Harmonia Mundi. I should probably upload it.
The cantor is amazing. It's Old Slavonic, so if you speak Russian or Ukrainian, you can get some of it. If you understand the order of an orthodx or high catholic service, you will know the structure.
I heard part of this on "The Crown" and I had to look it up and listen to the whole work. Very moving.
Same here!
I'm speechless
The part that starts at 6:50 is so transcendent.
Supreme example of the mystical orthodox service from Russia..( from 1910 )
Not quite. This was more of a concert version of the Divine Liturgy than a version practical for use in an actual worship service.
@@christosvoskresye really? But what does it lack? I've always hoped that somewhrere in Russia they use Rachmaninov's sacred music during service.
not from Russia, From Ukraine.
@@pictopoezia only rarely. This liturgy was never accepted by the synod because it was too individualistic. He learned his lesson and later composed probably his greatest work: the justly famous vespers (all-night vigil), which was accepted and is very often used in services, both in full and in parts.
Благодарю. Возможно что это лучшее исполнение литургии Рахманинова которое я слышал
ua-cam.com/video/cXy9n0yVjS4/v-deo.html послушайте это
Majestically, POWERFUL, Music!
The very Logos of God---- does---- come alive in these, lofty, sounds, which sweem up towards---- GOD!!!!
These heavenfy sounds---- DO---- bring Humans towards The One, True God and His Most Mother---- The Most Holy Immaculate, Ever Immaculate Cocenption of The Ever
Virgin Mary: Daughter of God, The Father, Mother of God, Jesus, The Christ, and, WIFE, of God, The Holy Spirit, Who is so---- INFINITELY---- HOLY, that the only sin that
SHALL NEVER HAVE FORGIVENESS-
Is : BLASPHEMY AGAINST THE HOLY SPIRIT!!!!
AMEN+ AMEN+
J adore
sem palavras. speechless. sin palabras.
magnifique!
Exquisite! Never a disappointment in Rachmaninoff!
Wonderfull
Divine.
☦️🙏
What recording is this? I love it!
Any explanation why the music gets cut off suddenly just before a cadence? Bizarre, and very frustrating...
Because this is how liturgy actually is in the church. It isnt just the choir singing constantly for all of liturgy. It's actually a lot of call and response between the deacon, priest, and choir. Only in certain circumstances do the choir continue whilst the chanting is happening.
Dave's Model Works, Igor Vrableetch is right, the music gets cut off suddenly. It may be missing very little, but it is cut off. Unsettling.
Otschen Harasho !!!!!!!!!!!!
Alguien podría indicarme los intérpretes de esta maravillosa interpretación??
Kansas City Chorale, Pamela Williamson, Charles Bruffy.
У дьякона голос шикарен!)
Sublime- great portrait also- who is the artist?
It's in the credits
Warmest regards from Croatian Orthodox Church to our Slavic and orthodox brothers and sisters in Russia and elsewhere.
Croatian Orthodox Church does not exist, just Serbian Orthodox Church instead in wich is cannonicially recognised by Eastern Orthodox Church
No Croatian Orthodox Church ever existed! Croatian quisling Nazi regime during WWII had certain notions to form one but that never happened.
@@ado1934 NO Serbian Orthodox Church had EVER existed before 1947 and NO so-called United Serbian Orthodox Church had EVER existed before 1922. The only orhodox church which, before the end of WWI, had a national adjective in its name was the Greek Orthodox Church.
The forerunner of the Croatian Orthodox Church was the Karlovac (Srijemski Karlovci) archbishopric, as a part of the Orthodox Church of the Austro-Hungarian Monarchy, whose patriarch held the title "Croatian patriarch", and Srijemski Karlovci was a part of the Austro-Hungarian Monarchy until 1918, and unfortunately became a part of Serbia only in 1946.
Even officially, there are already close to 20,000 Croats who declared themselves to be of the Orthodox faith in the last year's population census.
Pavelić was a STATESMAN, so he knew that with the creation of a new state, a new church is born, while Tuđman and his successors are TRAITORS, so either they don't know it, or they pretend not to know it.
@@hrvojeradonic9960 LOL hahahaha , yeees of course where was Croatia ever until 1918? Part of Austro-Hungary. Pavelic was a madman nazi criminal.
@@ado1934 And where was Serbia between the Berlin Congress and 1918 ? SOUTH of the Danube, certainly. After the Berlin Congress, Serbia was NOT completely independent, but a VASSAL of Austria-Hungary. That's why the Obrenovićes were killed in 1903. For whose interest ? For the interest of Britain and France. So, vassals again. Pavelić was NOT a National Socialist (the nonsense word "Nazi" was invented by Hitler's enemies), just as Milan Nedić was NOT one. Today, the evidence of the crimes of the so-called partisans is EVERYWHERE (throughout ex-Yugoslavia), while the evidence of the alleged crimes of Pavelić and Nedić is NOWHERE.
Ochen Khorrosho!
From the United States
Spelled with 3 o's--khorosho. In Russian both a and o when unaccented are pronounced as a shwa : khuhruhshow. In Cyrillic this simple and elegant. Transliterations suck.
Some participants in the comments made me very sad 😢
Why don't you go in "kafana" and argue the politics?.....
Let the rest of us enjoy the beautiful
Rachmaninoff liturgy and be in God's presence 🙏❤️🙏
Wish the video didn't abruptly end mid chanting
The National Academy Choir of Ukraine "Dumka"
It's the Kansas City Chorale. Read the credits.
No, it is Dumka. Why would Kansas City Chorale sing this in Ukrainian?@@miketackabery7521
Los intérpretes? Bien gracias.
Kansas City Chorale, Charles Buffy dir.
Seems like it is performed by some Ukrainian orthodox choir, because priest proclaims in Ukranian
Ah, I was wondering. Makes sense now.
No. It's the Kansas City Chorale. Read the credits.
@@miketackabery7521 - the recording listed in the credits isn't this one.
Frankly speaking, his piano works never attracted me . But on the contrary , i die for his liturgic works.....They are perfect and amazing as well and they touch my heart so easily. He is superb in that section. Good job.
That is absolutely insane to say his piano works never attracted you
I can say that Chopim's piano works do not attract me as well. I worship Bach, Mozart, Hyden piano works., In other words, i like Baroque music.
@@raffitorossian6994 Okay, then it is just a matter of not being into that era of piano music
Rachmaninoff piano compositions is not my style. But i adore Scarlatti, Bach, Beethoven piano works. But i don't like Debussy piano works and other composers either. Simply, it's a matter of style.
@@raffitorossian6994 then you might like busoni's fantasia contrappuntistica and many of feinberg's works, as they both liked bach a lot (and quoted him in their works). btw, what do you think of schumann?
It's in Ukrainian. Love it.
this one aint Rachmaninoff, i tried to download the full score from imslp and sound really different. So i searched thoroughly this version is composed by Ukrainian composer, Kyrylo Stetsenko
With all due respect - this IS Rachmaninoffs Op 31! You can compare with other versions available here on YT ua-cam.com/video/K94ePzs14Nc/v-deo.html
H-M H is probably correct. But since this is the first time I have listened to Rachmaninoff's version I am certainly no expert. Here is one performance of Ukranian composer Kyrylo Stetsenko's version.
ua-cam.com/video/UMV64XnxE70/v-deo.html
As if there isn't enough confusion yet, Tchaikovsky also had his earlier version by the same name but Opus 41. Here is one version of it:
ua-cam.com/video/DmM4i7rj_3g/v-deo.html
This and the other two composers versions I gave the URLs for are all different. I gave "Alf the Alien" the name of the performance of Rachmaninoff that an Amazon shopper said was the most authentic: Kansas City Chorale conducted by Charles Bruffy (Nimbus 5497/8).
@@henryhertzhobbit4343 thank you for taking the time for this very detailed answer. I am looking forward to explore and enjoy the links you have provided!
@Tsuchikiyo Tsu This is definitely Rachmaninoff's Liturgy of St John's Chrysostom. I sang it with a choir (Hart House Chorus) in 1999, and later that year we toured the Baltic and sang it at Smolny Cathedral in St Petersburg.
ua-cam.com/video/tlff0Rr2T_4/v-deo.html
here after watching Poor Things. Soul needs some cleansing from artistic and philosophical filth.
Beautiful music!! Terrible intonation in trebles!
The only true religion - Orthodoxy
That's the mentality that starts wars.
@@pter7531 You are right, it is a very reckless and arrogant statement.
And yet it's correct. Not polite, but correct.
@@pter7531 No one is calling for a war. Its just a statement of facts. One cannot be an orthodox and call for a war. This is nonsense, as love is the most important thing here.
@@pter7531 What can be true if it's not also pure? Truth itself is pure by its very nature, and the more impure or corrupt something is, it is said to become filled with the very corrupting institutions and behaviors that lead to its invariable decline. Then truth isn't something which is sacred, and without it's inerrant sacredness it is a joke not worthy of respect let alone acknowledgment of its existence. For if truth does not exist how can a lie be proven to exist or not exist?
For, I'd rather be proud of something that ends up being wrong, then to be a nihilist who values nothing to keep a tepid sense of peace which isn't sacred because nothing is in our modern nihilistic world.
The mentality that starts wars is that one has a right to stop others from living as they wish when they AREN'T forced to live among you. For this is where teaching children a fair sense of boundaries and discipline is a necessity in any civilized society, as I come from a background where my mother is Russian by blood and father Jewish here in the states. And there were times the fights can be intense, yet they haven't had physical altercations and they stay together through thick and through thin. Because it is about something deeper and higher than the here and now or pure feelings: truth is what matters.
So when this individual says the only true religion is orthodoxy I tend to agree. Whether it is Jewish, Muslim, Christian, Hindu, Jain, (whatever the ideology is) by keeping something pure you are truly offering actual choices to individuals who haven't committed to anything yet, because they can clearly be given the ability to analyze, compare and contrast the information they can see and quantify it. For by giving free choice, one has a sense of being respected and not mistreated. For it is normally mistreated people who rise up and rebel against their oppressors which is a signifier of a major societal event such as a war.
For the nature of oppression is to deny an alternative, to deny one choice and by twisting the truth and making everything watered down you have essentially devalued its inherent sacredness and thereby the sacredness of its followers and people which would cascade into a calamitous effect to where nobody has meaning or value anymore. And at this point people who are desperate to be heard amongst the oppressive chaos and silence which is the tyranny of nihilism lash out and it creates a war. Folks, we've been down this road before in declining empires in history. Let's not repeat this!
Good. Yet I do prefer an authentic Russian choir.