Putting EVERY Smash Fighter onto Santa's Nice or Naughty list!

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  • @i8dacookies890
    @i8dacookies890 21 день тому +210

    Of every character, the one with the best chances to be confirmed to have canonically gotten coal for christmas, it's Wario.

    • @Valderami
      @Valderami  21 день тому +71

      @@i8dacookies890 he wouldn't even be mad since he can sell coal for profit

    • @calemr
      @calemr 21 день тому +12

      ​@@Valderami Assuming he doesn't eat it.

    • @jeremypanjaitan4039
      @jeremypanjaitan4039 21 день тому +8

      ​@@calemrwario doesnt eat any valueable minerals, he steals them

    • @randocalzone8772
      @randocalzone8772 21 день тому +25

      @@Valderami Profiting off Santa's coal is the most Wario thing ever

    • @ToyFreddyGaming1987
      @ToyFreddyGaming1987 20 днів тому +6

      Wario is the kinda guy to get coal because he *wanted* it.

  • @PenCatStudio
    @PenCatStudio 21 день тому +129

    I’d HEAVILY argue for my man Olimar to be on the nice list. Bro saved an entire species from extinction, on multiple occasions, saved his entire company from dept, and is an amazing family man. The only reason he has to go back to the planet immediately is because his boss literally forces him to. Great video tho! Merry Christmas :]>

    • @ProVoiceActor1Dubs
      @ProVoiceActor1Dubs 21 день тому +32

      Will also need to bring up how the argument against Olimar isn’t entirely his fault, he was tasked to go on that mission to pay off the dept that louie put the company through, that’s extremely altruistic

    • @ArendAlphaEagle
      @ArendAlphaEagle 21 день тому +21

      Yeah, the president of Hocotate Freight should be on the naughty list instead.
      And Louie too. I love that dopey goober, but he's a selfish dopey goober that's caused WAY more harm than good.

    • @Fenyx_Birb
      @Fenyx_Birb 21 день тому +8

      I call for Olimar Niceness to be given back >:(

    • @lilyX3-wut
      @lilyX3-wut 20 днів тому +7

      Yes! Justice for Olimar >:[

    • @marche800
      @marche800 20 днів тому +2

      Also if he didn't he would have been out of a job because the company would have gone under. He did what he had to do

  • @sapphirestarblazer6805
    @sapphirestarblazer6805 21 день тому +79

    As a Kirby fan, I know full well that Meta Knight and King Dedede are only on the Naughty List due to budget constraints. Don't worry, we'll get you on the list another year

    • @JRENZO10
      @JRENZO10 20 днів тому +4

      To be fair, Dedede can be a jerk at times, even AFTER his "redemption"... though I guess we all have our moments.

  • @Regal_IronKnight
    @Regal_IronKnight 21 день тому +54

    13:06 In defense of the entire Inkling species, Nice won the Popularity category, and only lost because Naughty got more wins. The majority of Inklings fought for niceness, and sucking at Splatoon is not a moral failure.

    • @Valderami
      @Valderami  20 днів тому +16

      Okay but when I lose in Splatoon my day is ruined so it feels like a moral failure

    • @masterboa6321
      @masterboa6321 17 днів тому +4

      ah so it's like the electoral college

  • @sebbysebbington
    @sebbysebbington 21 день тому +83

    17:23 tbh a lot of minecraft players build slave breeding chambers and make 1x1 block chambers that suffocate and burn animals to death so they’d probably end up there anyway

    • @Valderami
      @Valderami  21 день тому +19

      I'll take any reason to put Steve on the bad kid list

    • @iczev
      @iczev 21 день тому +2

      Goes and kills a dragon who's not bothering anyone for no reason

    • @plumali_youtube163
      @plumali_youtube163 20 днів тому

      ​@@Valderami Cringe

    • @CaptBlock
      @CaptBlock 12 днів тому

      I'm totally not guilty of this

  • @meganpayette5996
    @meganpayette5996 21 день тому +22

    Sora being on the Naughty list all because he didn't believe in Santa
    seven years ago is extremely unfair! The dude saves various worlds
    for a living, he should be on the Nice list by that merit alone!

  • @KALEEB-CALEB
    @KALEEB-CALEB 21 день тому +46

    I have to say sora goes on the nice list. Yes that first cutscene is a huge factor, BUT the only reason Sora “didn’t believe in Santa” was because Riku kept telling him he wasn’t real. In a later cutscene, Santa even says Sora should believe in finding Riku just like he believes in finding Santa.

    • @rudysarmiento8700
      @rudysarmiento8700 20 днів тому +6

      In other words, Santa change his mind

    • @kirbyofthestarsfan
      @kirbyofthestarsfan 20 днів тому +7

      Yeah but him paying for his sins and Santa having beef with him is funnier

    • @Valderami
      @Valderami  18 днів тому +1

      So I did double check the follow up cutscenes to specifically see if Santa changed his mind about Sora and he never actually did so on the naughty list he stays

  • @stephanerouvelin526
    @stephanerouvelin526 14 днів тому +1

    Olimar didn't ignore his family, as soon as he came back, the president immediately told him and Louis to go back to earth straight away. Plus it's their Boss so of course he listened to his orders.

  • @teabown02
    @teabown02 13 днів тому +1

    9:25 meta knight has since sworn himself as the ultimate protector of dream land.

  • @saintbutters3684
    @saintbutters3684 21 день тому +35

    11:14 NO! THAT IS NOT SOLID SNAKE!

    • @alexandreturcotte6411
      @alexandreturcotte6411 20 днів тому +1

      To be fair, even if we don't take account of Big Boss/Venom Snake, I don't think Santa Claus would let somebody who's known for the following get on the nice list (May need precisions, I haven't played the games in a while):
      - Burning his ""dad""/former superior into a state of near death
      - Destruction of private/governement property. Mainly military grade equipment
      - Being barrer of a deadly virus who was only curred in his final years or so of life
      - Usage of weapon who aren't allowed by the genieva convention (Rocket Launcher and mines)
      I think I'll stop there before seeming too crazy. What's sure is that, at least Solid Snake's good to his dogs.

  • @ArendAlphaEagle
    @ArendAlphaEagle 21 день тому +14

    Honestly, you could've said that the Duck Hunt dog gets on the naughty list because he laughs at you every time after you failed to shoot a single duck in a round, even though he's supposed to be your loyal sidekick. It made enough retro gamers hate the dog.

  • @Kolya-chu
    @Kolya-chu 20 днів тому +9

    Mythra unintentionally sank a small continent in an epic battle. Almost everyone got off. No genucide. Also, I might have been distracted, but I didn’t hear Pyra. She’s a separate person from Mythra.

    • @Fioriole
      @Fioriole 19 днів тому +5

      Malos may have been the one that directly struck Auresco, but Mythra still contributed to sinking an entire LIVING, pregnant continent that also consisted of a LOT of wildlife, in a world suffering from rapidly diminishing habitable areas, so I'd still mark that as being pretty naughty even if it was by accident.

    • @Valderami
      @Valderami  18 днів тому

      I put Pyra in the nice list because she seems like a nice gal! 😊

  • @TheRegibump
    @TheRegibump 21 день тому +20

    Okay but if we’re playing the logic of Byleth potentially siding with Edelgard as possibly to be on the naughty list, wouldn’t that also put Lucina up there for the chance to be attempting an assassin on her own mother?

    • @ArendAlphaEagle
      @ArendAlphaEagle 21 день тому +7

      Or uh, her husband when it's male Robin.

    • @FelixFalora
      @FelixFalora 21 день тому +8

      Playing on this guy's logic for the answer.
      Lucina only attempted it as a result of finding out about the potential for evil wizard crimes and figuring that it would expedite saving everyone. She ultimately couldn't bring herself to do it, though, as her love for mother (or husband) is too great, so she's still nice because she ultimately did the right thing even if her attempted naughty act was for the right reasons.
      In contrast, Byleth can actively choose to join Edelgard, who is a Nazi piece of garbage, so that strikes against them. Honestly, Byleth was banned from the nice list the moment they saved her from Kostas, letting the bandit kill her would've been so much-
      Oh, my apologies. I went way too far. It's just that that's how people who call Edelgard a fascist sound to me at this point.

    • @otaking3582
      @otaking3582 20 днів тому

      ​@@FelixFaloraNo, Edelgard is the only one worth siding with.

  • @MercuryA2000
    @MercuryA2000 21 день тому +13

    I know bowser's a serial kidnapper, but I think he was put on the naughty list a liiiitle early I mean, he's a great dad and he's apparently chill enough for Mario to still invite him to parties.
    Also: Yes, Bayonetta does give me the vibe of someone who wants to be on the naughty list. That is 100% canon I will be taking no counter arguments.

  • @kirbybaker-the-alch
    @kirbybaker-the-alch 21 день тому +13

    of course I know you said at the start you had to do a 50/50 split, but considering santa's list is supposed to be yearly it feels more real that some of the former villain characters would be nice as their current actions outweigh bad actions that would have gotten them coal one year

    • @Valderami
      @Valderami  20 днів тому +3

      Honestly that's a really good point that I hadn't considered.
      I'll keep that in mind if I revisit this concept next year!

  • @Drawgur2705
    @Drawgur2705 16 днів тому +1

    Steve and Alex have canonically doomed a few dimensions. Killed the last living ender dragon, disrupted the nature of the nether, and built structures and caused global warming (possibly). That might not be true though.

  • @NoelJoyeux8
    @NoelJoyeux8 16 днів тому +1

    Olimar was literally robbed and forcibly redeployed by his boss, he WANTED to see his family, but his boss forced him to head out ASAP or be fired.

  • @derStimulierer
    @derStimulierer 21 день тому +9

    shulk is like half the game on a revenge trip and trying to commit a genocide

    • @chrisrockett5897
      @chrisrockett5897 20 днів тому +3

      Are there any known GOOD Mechon though? If not, I rest my case. 🥱

    • @bamboozled4912
      @bamboozled4912 20 днів тому +4

      @@chrisrockett5897 depends on what you count as mechon. if you dont count machina, then we still have meyneth as a faced mechon. if you count machina then you can count literally everyone besides egil lol.

    • @chrisrockett5897
      @chrisrockett5897 20 днів тому +3

      @@bamboozled4912 Fair enough.

    • @Fioriole
      @Fioriole 19 днів тому +4

      @@bamboozled4912 Shulk only wanted to fight mechon while he believed they were soulless machines, once he discovers that Faced Mechon are technically sentient on Prison Island, he abandons revenge completely and focuses solely on saving the captured Homs and later to negotiate with Egil. He even tries to save Metal Face, the guy who put him on the path of revenge in the first place.
      A lot of Shulk's behaviors are explained by his ignorance and misinformation that was fed to him his whole life (and also Zanza's manipulation).

  • @Chromaticsuniverse
    @Chromaticsuniverse 21 день тому +8

    the duck from duck hunt should be on the nice list, because its just a chill duck, but the dog goes on the naughty list because in his games, once ducks get shot he just grabs and dangles them by the neck and just laughs at them. Straigt up evil man.

  • @RoadrunnerMoose
    @RoadrunnerMoose 20 днів тому +4

    Lucina should be on the Naughty list. She was willing to let her friends die to protect her father.

  • @skyt-cl4si
    @skyt-cl4si 18 днів тому +4

    Reasons why Rob should be on the nice list:
    1. Rob saved gaming, which means no Rob, no gaming. This means that some beloved video game characters wouldn't exist. Which means some of the video game characters that saved christmas wouldn't exist. Which means that Chriatmas wouldn't exist. So this means that eithout Rob, video games wouldn't exist. So technically, Rob saved christmas.
    2. Olimar picks up Rob's head. This means that Rob probably doesn't like Olimar. This means that Rob is Olimar's enemy. Santa puts Olimar on the naughty list. This means that Olimar is Santa's enemy. This means that Rob is the enemy of santa's enemy. The enemy of your enemy is your friend. This means that Rob is Santa's friend. This means that Santa has bias towards Rob. This means that Santa will put Rob on the nice list.

    • @Valderami
      @Valderami  18 днів тому +3

      @@skyt-cl4si this also means that ROB is responsible for League of Legends existing which definitely means he belongs on the naughty list

  • @thecabbagedkappa
    @thecabbagedkappa 15 днів тому +1

    "Yeah, he's kinda mopey about it" AND YOU WOULDN'T BE?! Listen, man, Lucas has every right to be as mopey as he wants to be, forever.

  • @ikemike2649
    @ikemike2649 20 днів тому +5

    Bro all for stealing food that's in the past he literally sacrificed himself to save Kirby and his waddle bees

  • @Shadoboy
    @Shadoboy 16 днів тому +3

    Dark Pit would be in the naughty list because he's too edgy to accept being on the nice side and would get mad if he saw anything other than coal.
    But then Pit would ask him to join him to play with his new presents and he would agree while pretending to be very annoyed about it.

    • @Valderami
      @Valderami  16 днів тому +2

      @@Shadoboy this is such a good interpretation

  • @Scotch7574
    @Scotch7574 21 день тому +14

    In defense of Game&Watch, his source material has you rescuing people from a burning building, and keeping a dangerous animal from escape. So he would go on the nice list.
    Honestly I think you and your editor are just salty you got hit with 9s more often than not.

  • @number16kelbax
    @number16kelbax 19 днів тому +3

    Steve and Alex go on the Naughty list anyway for enslaving villagers.

  • @marcelopaulo446
    @marcelopaulo446 21 день тому +10

    Kirby should absolutely be in naughty he is an absolute menace when talking in kirby's avalanche

  • @SparkTheSnorlax
    @SparkTheSnorlax 19 днів тому +6

    Hold on.
    While you're kind of right about Mythra accidentally committing genocide (destroying the Tornan Titan), a lot of factors need to be accounted for.
    In TTGC (Torna ~ The Golden Country), Malos tries to awaken the Tornan Titan's true form in an attempt to destroy humanity. During the peak of this, the heroes are fighting Malos in order to stop this destruction. Malos, in return, uses one of his Artifices (Big robot with powerful laser), to launch a swift attack on the capital of Torna.
    The reason he does this is because he wants to unleash Mythra's true power, then get her to join him. The reason why the capital being attacked is so important is because a character named Milton is there. Milton is a Gormotti child that is under Addam's (Mythra's driver during TTGC) care and protection. Over the course of the story, Mythra starts to see Milton as a little brother, so seeing Malos attack the capital, the place Milton was told to stay in order to stay safe, she unleashes a small portion of her true power. (The full extent of said power being awakened 500 years later in Xenoblade 2).
    While using this small portion of her true power, she faces Malos, but it's clear that she's giving it her all. At the peak of the fight between the two, Mythra loses control of her power, and her Artifice starts shooting extremely powerful and destructive beams of light in all directions, one of them hitting and one-shotting Malos. Another one directly strikes the Tornan Titan's core, fatally injuring it, and eventually causing it to fall into the Cloud Sea, dead.
    A lot of Tornan citizens were evacuated, but there were a few casualties, the only ones we truly know of are Milton and Hugo (The Emperor of Mor Ardain during TTGC). It's a little unclear if it was Malos' attack or Mythra's loss of control over her power that caused Milton's death, however it's directly shown that it was Mythra's indirect strike on the Titan's core that killed Hugo.
    Now, it's abundantly clear that Mythra's intentions were to save Torna from Malos, but a few unfortunate circumstances caused her to destroy Torna instead.
    Should Mythra be on the naughty list since what happened was literally beyond her control?
    _Also she and Pyra kind of sacrificed themselves to save all of Alrest from destruction at the end of Xenoblade 2. Sure, they come back because they gave their Core Crystal to Rex before they died, but it's clear that they were going to sacrifice themselves before they made the decision to hand over their Core._

  • @hunterlawrence3573
    @hunterlawrence3573 20 днів тому +3

    Joker did save Christmas…by defeating multiple “angels” and summoning a demon lord to kill a false god. His contract with Arsene straight up says “Show the strength of thy will to ascertain all on thine own, though thou be chained to Hell itself!” which sounds like acceptance of being on the naughty list to me.
    But then he also maxed all his social links, changed the hearts of evildoers, and saved all of humanity, so I’m not sure where to put him.

  • @pollystarlight2362
    @pollystarlight2362 21 день тому +3

    Peach would definitely put up a fake pink Christmas tree in her castle, she'd still love to celebrate even though she's not religious herself, she'd just enjoy spending a nice cheerful holiday with Mario and the others.

  • @starrysky8118
    @starrysky8118 21 день тому +7

    To answer your question at the end, at least in regards to Robin specifically.
    Every other FE protagonist with a selectable gender is pretty much the same character across their two genders except Robin. Male Robin is more chill and awkward, while female Robin is more hasty and has a bit of a temper. They're the only one with this distinction.

    • @Valderami
      @Valderami  21 день тому +3

      @@starrysky8118 huh I didn't actually know that! Neat!

  • @dr.crazystein9536
    @dr.crazystein9536 15 днів тому +1

    Well that's good. Because I'm glad Sora has more hellfire coal than even Darkseid

  • @arotixtrenar
    @arotixtrenar 21 день тому +6

    One major defense for Cloud is that he didn’t even do that on purpose. It was due to so much trauma he had to deal with. Like he was experimented on by being exposed to Mako energy, aka the planet’s life force. Had Jenova Cells in him, witnessed his friend’s death. And the Genocide of Nibelheim, it created a false persona from Zack’s memories. So the identity theft and that persona was more of a mental block.

    • @Zenbrey
      @Zenbrey 17 днів тому +1

      Calling Cloud an Edgelord and Cocky is also classic misinformation, when his friends repeatedly acknowledge his sensitivity and kindness at every turn. (Barret and Aerith first.)

  • @smeltstarverse7306
    @smeltstarverse7306 21 день тому +23

    Honestly, I’d argue Richter could go on the naughty list considering some of the stuff he’s pulled in Castlevania lore. Sure, he was manipulated into it, but the dude was still willing to help bring Dracula - you know, the evil dude that the Belmont clan have trained their entire life to kill - back from the dead just because he didn’t want his purpose in life to be over. He got better, sure, but if Santa’s still holding a grudge over Sora not believing in him 8-9 years ago, I think Richter would end up with some coal.

    • @Valderami
      @Valderami  21 день тому +5

      @@smeltstarverse7306 so which character gets to make the ascension into the nice list if we lose Richter?

    • @BKNNcyclopedia
      @BKNNcyclopedia 21 день тому

      no hes christen

    • @smeltstarverse7306
      @smeltstarverse7306 21 день тому +5

      @@Valderami I'd probably raise Incineroar or Greninja, since their in-universe personalities are typically way more noble than their dark typings and "evil" professions would imply - as an example, Incineroar is apparently great with children, a trait that Santa would likely value highly.

    • @pnexus9514
      @pnexus9514 21 день тому +9

      ​@@smeltstarverse7306 I hear you, but I would argue that DDD deserves it more after sacrificing himself in forgotten land to save one waddle dee.

    • @randocalzone8772
      @randocalzone8772 21 день тому +6

      @@Valderami Olimar was the most surprising naughty lister so him

  • @Themoo_atcows
    @Themoo_atcows 20 днів тому +4

    Okay LISTEN. Sora obviously forgot that he said he didn’t believe in Santa and probably said that to be cool like. Also Sora has literally died multiple times for his friends. I would say that means he deserves to be on the nice list.

  • @Aichi1138
    @Aichi1138 17 днів тому +1

    In the argument of Grenenja being on the naughty list solely because he's dark type: keep in mind Absol also is a dark type and they are dark because people associate natural disasters with them even though they are trying to warn people of them. Yes there is dark types that revel in being evil, but there is nothing about that with geninja, Just them evolving into being a stealthy ambush predator animal

  • @BKNNcyclopedia
    @BKNNcyclopedia 21 день тому +12

    meta knight put his life on the line to save dreamland twice, he should be nice

    • @Valderami
      @Valderami  21 день тому +1

      @@BKNNcyclopedia who would you put on the naughty list in his stead?

    • @MercuryA2000
      @MercuryA2000 21 день тому +1

      At the very least he should have been a hesitate.

    • @aasaadmays7457
      @aasaadmays7457 20 днів тому

      @@ValderamiI think you should had put Mario on the naughty list because we do destroy property with him and stomp on plants. Luigi is just stealing from the dead.Bowser junior was graffiting and Identity theft

    • @Waddleboyadvance7187
      @Waddleboyadvance7187 20 днів тому +1

      Okay but dedede deserves the nice list too he has grown from being a jackass to a noble ruler who was willing to throw his life away for just one of his subjects

    • @someone6531
      @someone6531 19 днів тому +1

      ​@@aasaadmays7457
      1st game: Luigi won a mansion, this was a trap, the money in there is his by default. Eventually, the mansion is turned into his personal home after-game.
      2nd game: He is dragged to god knows where and has to get all the Dark Moon pieces to give the ghosts back their consciousness, all the while getting money that I don't think even the ghosts care about all that much. Even managing to end up with a cute lil' ghost dog
      3rd game: Luigi is invited to a hotel that was a trap. The money that he "stole" from the dead is then used to RESTORE the hotel for the dead.

  • @itsturniptime3699
    @itsturniptime3699 21 день тому +17

    I’d argue Incineroar isn’t on the naughty list. Incineroar is a heel wrestler, therefor he’s an actor, a performer. Being mean is his job. When outside of the ring Incineroar are known to be quite gentle and popular with young children like a mascot, and I think that’s nice.

    • @Valderami
      @Valderami  21 день тому +1

      Yeah but his moveset in smash makes me angry so I needed to look for a reason to justify putting him on the bad list.
      Am I being a hypocrite about this...
      Yes

    • @itsturniptime3699
      @itsturniptime3699 21 день тому +4

      @ Santa would not approve of your biases

    • @mrrealgreatpalmtree
      @mrrealgreatpalmtree 21 день тому +1

      Here I was expecting incineroar to be on the naughty list because he is a "dark type". As the guy before me said it's his job and outside the ring he is known to be gentle

    • @chrisrockett5897
      @chrisrockett5897 20 днів тому

      ​@@ValderamiGet Alolan Whipped

  • @ihavenoidea9999
    @ihavenoidea9999 20 днів тому +3

    For cloud, you're talking about the cloud from when he was suffering from many things, after he recovers in the final disc of the game, he becomes a completely different person and he help defeat sepherat twice and help deal with geosicknees, so he does belong in the nice list

  • @xenolys9956
    @xenolys9956 21 день тому +4

    All of robins crimes were due to him being grimas avatar and being controlled by validar.
    also at the end he literally sacrifices himself to destroy grima so idk how he's on the naughty list

  • @AaronYoakum-sn3he
    @AaronYoakum-sn3he 19 днів тому +4

    11:10 No that is not solid snake! And also he should be on the nice list for destroying metal gear and preventing nuclear war multiple times

  • @marche800
    @marche800 20 днів тому +3

    Olimar did not have a choice in the matter he was sent back to the distant planet immediately. It's also not as simple a choice as he picked his job over his family. Hocotate Freight was in exteme debt and on it's last legs. Literal debt collectors chase his boss through the streets while he's away. He wanted to go see his family but chose to help hocatate freight because they needed the help more. Also if the company went under, he would be unemployed and his family would would starve. Ultimately sure it's not great that he didn't get to go see them but he did what he did for his family.

  • @Wildfire9002
    @Wildfire9002 20 днів тому +2

    One chapter of awakening mentions a war crime Robin did flames on the blue

  • @calemr
    @calemr 21 день тому +8

    Yet more Dark Pit slander...
    Dark Pit is a Great guy. Possibly BETTER than Pit. Pit attacked him almost on sight, and Pitoo at first tried to just run because he doesn't wanna fight.
    Dark Pit is a hero, he's just Chaotic good instead of Lawful good.
    Pit fights evil because Palutena told him to. Dark Pit fights evil because he Wants to.

    • @padriazozzriaorizifian8672
      @padriazozzriaorizifian8672 21 день тому +4

      Pittoo's very nature as a reflection shows that Pit would still fight for good even without being told to by Lady Palutena. I'd say they're equally good kids.

    • @chrisrockett5897
      @chrisrockett5897 20 днів тому

      ​@@padriazozzriaorizifian8672That's kinda sweet.

  • @marche800
    @marche800 20 днів тому +2

    Now hold on. Incineroar may be rough an brash but it is explicitely said to only fight strong opponents and to take care of small pokemon. It seems more stubborn and proud than outright being a dick. I could see it getting nice list under the right tutelage

  • @skellydoesmusic8281
    @skellydoesmusic8281 20 днів тому +2

    Good vid my dude. Plus the way you asked for the subscription and whatnot made me laugh so you definitely deserved my follow.

  • @ivory7182
    @ivory7182 21 день тому +7

    I put Bayonetta on the naughty list for the same reason.
    I also put Kirby on the naughty list because babies need to learn to stop putting everything in their mouths. Also, he would eat the coal and not care

    • @Valderami
      @Valderami  21 день тому +6

      @@ivory7182 the coal would probably give him like magma powers or something lmao

    • @someone6531
      @someone6531 19 днів тому

      Kirby has literally saved his planet & the universe again & again. Just because he puts everything in his mouth, doesn't deserve him the naughty list.

  • @ManyFaceImpressions
    @ManyFaceImpressions 16 днів тому +1

    R.O.B. Does make sense being on the naughty list cause of Subspace (he was one of the main villians), but if we’re going by other logic he should be nice since he’s the sole reason that video game industry didn’t crash and burn back then, if he wasn’t around gaming wouldn’t be here like it is today

  • @mastermewtwo5503
    @mastermewtwo5503 20 днів тому +1

    Bayonetta, yeah. She's not only "naughty", but she kinda has the whole Umbra Witch thing going on. Makes pacts with demons, fights angels almost daily, mass property damage and general public disregard... Probably takes priority even if she's saving the whole universe a few times.

  • @alleycatgaming5433
    @alleycatgaming5433 15 днів тому +1

    Counter argument for Samus. Metroid 2, she literally commits a genocide as for Richter, i think i remember hearing he let Dracula get resurrected during SotN because he didn't want his life to have peaked during RoB.

  • @Mr.L2534
    @Mr.L2534 17 днів тому +1

    Dedede and Meta Knight be fighting gods to protect their planet but they're getting judged by something they did in the past, what a rotten society we live in 😔

  • @windindi2834
    @windindi2834 21 день тому +6

    7:45 In Mewtwo's defense, he was created to be a slave for Team Rocket and escaped with a confused conscience. In the original version, Mewtwo was targeted by humans and Pokémon alike that told him/wanted him to unalive himself or to be confined by the natural order of the Pokémon world. Even Mew told Mewtwo that he doesn't deserve to be alive and that it will forever be inferior and unjustified to life, which was why it wanted to wage war against humanity and Pokémon alike.
    After all of these events, it would go out of its way to protect and give shelter to Pokémon who were abused or cloned. Not trying to say Mewtwo is safe from the extremes, but I think his "ending all humanity" stuff was not his true intention and that it was born into a role it never wanted or asked for, but would ultimately repent and do what is right long term. I think that calls for the nice list in my opinion.

  • @dequandresmith3356
    @dequandresmith3356 19 днів тому +2

    NO you go back to Robin and talk about the fact that he’s an evil dragon

  • @Dogo0ncrack
    @Dogo0ncrack 17 днів тому

    Putting Falco on the naughty list with literal federal criminals is crazy

  • @Thethingaboutellie
    @Thethingaboutellie 20 днів тому +4

    And I fucking love noodles is the best reason and the reason I subbed 😭

  • @TitusRedwind
    @TitusRedwind 21 день тому +5

    Before watching, I'll have to say as a guy who's put over 200+ hours into persona 5, Joker unequivocally deserves to be on the nice list.
    He risked his own safety to stand up to a powerful man who was harassing a woman on the street and due to a massive injustice, got labeled a criminal.
    He helped bring several corrupt people to justice including abusers and a mafia boss
    He even stood up to an evil god that wanted to enslave humanity.
    If that doesn't put you on the nice list, nobody deserves it

    • @Valderami
      @Valderami  21 день тому +3

      @@TitusRedwind (:

    • @TitusRedwind
      @TitusRedwind 21 день тому +1

      ​@@Valderamigreat video btw. Glad someone finally put Steve on the naughty list for his smash crimes

  • @Bros-fh2mi
    @Bros-fh2mi 15 днів тому +2

    Dark pit is basically me. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @Ihartwalrusguy
    @Ihartwalrusguy 20 днів тому +1

    I thought Sora was on the naughty list because his association with Disney aka the most corporate company of all kind.

  • @chrisrockett5897
    @chrisrockett5897 20 днів тому +4

    18:23 I WON'T ACCEPT THIS KEN SLANDER! His dad literally dropped him off to live at Gouken's dojo because he didn't want him to be a pampered brat.
    Also, said homeless guy is his best bro who definitely doesn't mind the sparring sessions and he has a wife and kid. I think he's nice.

    • @Valderami
      @Valderami  20 днів тому +1

      We're this a normal list Ken would absolutely make the cut.
      But since half the roster HAD to be Naughty Ken didn't make it

    • @chrisrockett5897
      @chrisrockett5897 20 днів тому +1

      @@Valderami Lmfao

  • @Minegames616
    @Minegames616 17 днів тому +1

    You did olimar’s dirty man!
    Reason one why olimar should be on the nice list:
    He saved his home planet, but the reason why you said he goes on the naughty list is because he ignored his family. But olimar’s says In pikmin one he wants to see his family, but as soon as he had the chance chu chu said his planet was in dept! So olimar has 2 options:
    1: do the right thing and go collect treasures
    2: say no and let his home planet go in dept.
    He chose the 1st one for the greater good!
    Reason 2:
    Olimar crashed onto pnf404 he made an unbreakable bond with the pikmin! And even in pikmin 4 he made a bond with moss a… I don’t know what family moss is but she looks like a dog with 2 legs!
    Reason 3: olimar gives people the things they need!
    You did Steve and Alex dirty too!
    Reason one Steve and Alex are in the nice list:
    You said you would not say they were based on smash but nope! You broke the rule!
    Reason 2:
    Steve and Alex fight the bad guys, mainly zombies, skeletons, creepers, enderman, pigman, blazes, pillagers, vex, phantoms, sliver fish, breeze, and way way more!
    Reason 3:
    Steve and Alex take good care of animals like pig (Technoblade never dies), wolf, sheep, chicken, and MANY MANY MORE!

  • @Leet-iz2fz
    @Leet-iz2fz 19 днів тому +2

    15:11 I can justify Duck Hunt being on the Naughty list for you. The fighter consists of three characters: a dog, a duck, and a gunner off-camera.
    Hunting game animals, presumably for food, is not a sin, but the dog laughs at you when you completely miss a wave of ducks, which is especially fucked-up when you consider that you are hunting for food and your *trusted companion* has the audacity to mock you when you might starve because of this. Outside of Smash, which has the duck get in on the bad manners anyway, that's the only morality demonstrated by either of the onscreen duo, and the gunner is a stand-in for the player of the Duck Hunt video game, who could have any morality on the planet. Therefore, they are naughty because the core of the trio is a dickhead.

  • @notsodogninja35
    @notsodogninja35 20 днів тому +1

    OK so...
    Ness beats up dogs.
    Instant naughty list.
    Fortunately, that frees up space for Meta Knight to go back up because he never actually was ever seen even firing a shot other than to protect his ship and his men from a being with infinite power

    • @kreckty
      @kreckty 19 днів тому

      all of the enemies in earthbound are under giygas' evil influence so therefore ness is technically doing a good thing (plus, he doesn't even kill them, rather the enemies either "become tame" or "stop moving" and "get destroyed" for enemies which are inanimate objects)

  • @grapeguy765
    @grapeguy765 19 днів тому

    14:28 Jigglypuff after reading the myth of Sisyphus: 😞

  • @mr.random4647
    @mr.random4647 20 днів тому +1

    Donkey Kong should go on the naughty list for his fight against Little Mac, not only is there no evidence that the fight was even planned, let alone regulated, but Little Mac is 17, so DK is abusing a minor by fighting him.

    • @Valderami
      @Valderami  20 днів тому +2

      @@mr.random4647 on the flip side you could argue that this poor gorilla is the victim for being forced to fight a trained athlete

  • @kotavelaz1987
    @kotavelaz1987 20 днів тому +1

    Canonically speaking, yes, the different genders of the fire emblem guys are technically different characters if you take Heroes into account.

  • @Thatonecreator._.
    @Thatonecreator._. 15 днів тому

    Steve and Alex do evil things to villagers and do terrible things to the wildlife

  • @liamfunnyman6965
    @liamfunnyman6965 18 днів тому

    Counterpoint for Incineroar: the whole heel thing is just an act; in fact, he's great with kids. He goes on the nice list, and in his place on the naughty list goes, I dunno, Waluigi.

  • @fencer16
    @fencer16 20 днів тому +1

    Ganondorf also canonically kills millions of+ genocide + killed a sage + also nearly destroyed the world

    • @Valderami
      @Valderami  18 днів тому

      I'm beginning to think this Ganondorf fellow might not be a chill dude

    • @fencer16
      @fencer16 17 днів тому

      @valderami the funny thing is the only time ganon was remotely nice was in wind waker when he stopped the bird from killing the children in wind waker

  • @Dunnow69
    @Dunnow69 20 днів тому +1

    Isable asking to get DoomGuy on the nice thing is the right thing to do

  • @tirzahroseroot
    @tirzahroseroot 15 днів тому

    Dark Pit to me deserves the nice list considering he FOUGHT WITH PIT TO FIND PALUENTENA’S SOUL AND THEN FLEW DOWN TO THE UNDERWORLD ITSELF IN AN ATTEMPT TO SAVE PIT’S LIFE!!! Honestly, how do people forget him acting more heroic in the latter half of Uprising is beyond me.

  • @MrCroissant_Official
    @MrCroissant_Official 21 день тому +4

    Man I keep thinking youre like a 5M sub youtuber this is quality content. Keep it up!

    • @Valderami
      @Valderami  21 день тому +2

      Thank you for the encouragement! A lot of the credit goes to my editor too! I wouldn't be able to make something even half as good without him!

  • @dylan8435
    @dylan8435 20 днів тому +2

    3:22 it was been years since i saw that logo...

  • @rudysarmiento8700
    @rudysarmiento8700 20 днів тому +2

    Okay ignoring the fact that some of these points are years in the past and forgetting that people can change.
    There's another problem at hand, the pokemon at their core are animals and a species name, some more intelligent then others. While Mewtwo is a single pokemon so his placement is easy, but are we seriously judging all incineroar to be naughty and all pikachu to be nice? That's like racism. A pikachu could be a friendly little pet or the pest of the town. And this logic applies to piranha and blank player avatars as well. Steve could be building a farm, he could be nuking a village.

  • @MovableCoffeeTable
    @MovableCoffeeTable 12 днів тому

    Tf ricin had no control over himself bro was possessed

  • @364wii
    @364wii 21 день тому +5

    Sora is very nice but i know he doesn't believe in Santa thanks to playing Kingdom Heart 2 so he yeah I don't even think he makes the list. Haven't watched the video but saw this thumb I'll edit when i watch the sora part.
    -Edit- Ok he was first one! 😂 There's my anwser.

  • @lucazaroli6761
    @lucazaroli6761 18 днів тому

    Samus commits genocide on an entire species of animals on a foreign planet. Even though she kept the baby Metroid alive that’s still a 99.9% successful genocide and she immediately gave away the baby to be experimented on forever. Definitely a naughty lister

    • @Valderami
      @Valderami  18 днів тому

      Metroids were an invasive species doing harm to others

  • @marenrobison6202
    @marenrobison6202 21 день тому +1

    Every villager "Trading hall" (prison) is enough to put steve on the naughty list on its own

    • @Valderami
      @Valderami  21 день тому +1

      @@marenrobison6202 don't need to convince me twice!

  • @byronvonedmund
    @byronvonedmund 21 день тому +2

    And so you think Santa puts a blind eye on all the war crimes (like recruiting children to war and attacking monks and priests) the Fire Emblem characters did during their respective campaigns?
    Except for Chrom, he needs Pyra and Mythra wrapped as his Christmas gift

    • @Valderami
      @Valderami  21 день тому +1

      @@byronvonedmund Chrom is deadass my favorite Fire Emblem character out of all the games
      I fuckin love that dude

    • @byronvonedmund
      @byronvonedmund 21 день тому

      @@Valderami glad we're same on that one 🤝

    • @ArendAlphaEagle
      @ArendAlphaEagle 21 день тому +2

      But Pyra and Mythra CANONICALLY belong to Rex, both of them even have babies with him by the time Xenoblade Chronicles 3 takes place. And Chrom is no homewrecker, lest that would put him straight on the naughty list.

    • @chrisrockett5897
      @chrisrockett5897 20 днів тому

      ​@@ArendAlphaEagleDude has kids with both of his girls AND a fusion of said girls. He won at life.

  • @lettibates2412
    @lettibates2412 20 днів тому +1

    5:39 my guess on what her present would be would most likely just be a vacation and then she would decline and then Santa will give her the back up present being a broom

    • @Valderami
      @Valderami  20 днів тому +1

      Have you seen her up tilt? She's a menace with that broom!

  • @MyYouTubeRocks
    @MyYouTubeRocks 21 день тому +1

    Pikachu and Pichu on the nice list is peak

    • @Valderami
      @Valderami  21 день тому +2

      @@MyUA-camRocks PEAKachu

  • @Wolfiyeethegranddukecerberus17
    @Wolfiyeethegranddukecerberus17 20 днів тому +2

    Note that not all dark types are evil. I think that Greninja is a dark type due to his shinobi nature, so it depends on where you rank ninja.

  • @HeeminGaminStation
    @HeeminGaminStation 21 день тому +2

    Fantastic work once again, Valderami 😊 I enjoy your content including this nice little Candy Cane of a video for Christmas! I look forward to the content you will bring us in the coming year,
    I think you had a good cutoff point for the characters you chose, your friend is right that Mario should not be on the nice list (see Luigi’s victory cutscene for Mario Tennis) and if you want to Justify Duck Hunt Dog being on the naughty list, him laughing at the Hunter for missing all his shots is evidence enough.
    Happy Holidays 🤗

    • @Valderami
      @Valderami  21 день тому

      @@HeeminGaminStation Thank you for the kind words my friend! Comments like this are the best thing a guy could read on Christmas morning! Happy Holidays!

    • @DRAKINHO-eq5fp
      @DRAKINHO-eq5fp 21 день тому +1

      Mario stepping in Luigi foot it's just sibling rivalry, playing any of the Mario & Luigi games show how much he cares for his brother and supports him

  • @TwilightLink77
    @TwilightLink77 17 днів тому

    With Mario he has done a few naughty things as well

  • @gmx_hydro
    @gmx_hydro 15 днів тому

    My, my i wonder what list ridley will be on...

  • @browncow5210
    @browncow5210 17 днів тому

    Whose house is Sephiroth going to use that coal to burn down?

  • @ANCHANTED4
    @ANCHANTED4 19 днів тому +1

    I do think Greninja should have been in the nice list. He did help save kalos in the anime and is technically still doing it by fighting those weird vines. I don't think him being simply labeled as dark type should be enough to put him in the naughty list.

    • @Pepperknight341
      @Pepperknight341 17 днів тому

      Also, his final smash has him become Ash-Greninja, so this is Ash's Greninja specifically.

  • @KrimsonKattYT
    @KrimsonKattYT 20 днів тому +2

    Some parts of this list are inaccurate:
    Shulk should be on the naughty list due yo being consumed by revenge for a large majority of the game, and also for possible bigotry and being an edgy anti-theist.
    Richter should be on the Naughty List for what he did in Symphony of the Night that was so bad that it made the Belmont Clan unable to use the Vampire Killer.
    Chrom should be in the naughty list since at the end of FE Awakening he is willing to sacrifice the world's future for the sake of his best friend/wife, which is extremely selfish. He actually does this in one of the game's two endings.
    Roy should be on the naughtly list because he's canonically a human supramacist, is racist against dragons, and looks up to a war criminal who commited mass genocide in his timeline. (Devon Hartmut) He can also marry his teacher who's 3x his age and his potential cousin. (If Hector married Florina and Eliwood married Farina)
    Some more elaboration for some on the the naughty list:
    You failed to mention the main reason Corrin and Byleth are on the naughty list, which is because they're both war criminals, especially in specific routes. (Conquest for Corrin and Crimson Flower & Burning Tempest for Byleth)
    DQ11 Hero saved the world twice in two different timelines. Regardless of his "bad drip", he deserves the nice list.

  • @GoldKitsuneBrony
    @GoldKitsuneBrony 20 днів тому

    Kidnaping and enslavement are plenty enough to put Steve on the naughty list, at least the way I play Minecraft XD Trapping 3 villagers in a tiny box where a zombie forces them to make iron golems every waking moment.

  • @whimsiclaw
    @whimsiclaw 18 днів тому +1

    I think Dark Pit's case is more complicated than you made it out to be. Yes, he can be an edgy little stinker, but he's always led by his own moral compass. He's just as willing to fight to protect his cause as Pit. Both Dark Pit and Pit are motivated by a genuine desire to protect others, they just go about it very differently. Pit is insecure and nervous to make his own decisions without backup, so he looks up to those higher in power to help him with them. Dark Pit is more self-assured and actively shuns what the gods do with their power, seeing how they so frequently use it to harm others. They're both imperfect, but led by their own views on what's right and just.
    I'm gonna stop here before this turns into an essay, but yeah, I've dug very deep into the Kid Icarus games lol

    • @Valderami
      @Valderami  18 днів тому +2

      I never said he was bad, just that he would say "No we can't" to Bob the Builder

    • @whimsiclaw
      @whimsiclaw 18 днів тому +1

      @@Valderami Oh yeah lol he absolutely would

  • @beetroot879
    @beetroot879 19 днів тому +1

    13:48 i can excuse terrorism but i draw the line at pretending you are Zack Fair

    • @Valderami
      @Valderami  18 днів тому +1

      Cloud is Slandering my righteous King Zack's name

  • @toonlinkster
    @toonlinkster 15 днів тому

    Doom slayer is isabelle husband, she and her husband will get their gifts now :D

  • @Hisho30
    @Hisho30 21 день тому +2

    If you wanna be canonical about Steve and Alex, you are technically them in the Minecraft World and you can basically do whatever you want. I mean, you pillage villagers, you enslave them for your amusement, you enter 2 dimensional worlds where you basically killed off an entire species and a huge dragon for basically nothing. You strip away of their resources by finding Ancient Debris for Netherite Armor, which pretty much makes you an indestructble force of nature, literally. You can deforest and terraform a lot of biomes for your pleasure, so why wouldn't you put Steve and Alex on the naughty list for their source material? We already know how broken they are in smash but in Minecraft, they just commit a million and plus war crimes and gets away with it.

    • @Valderami
      @Valderami  21 день тому +2

      @@Hisho30 completely valid I just couldn't think of a way to naughty list them without bringing up smash itself

  • @davidgeorge1943
    @davidgeorge1943 20 днів тому +1

    Marth, Chrom, (male) Robin, and Byleth should all belong on the Nice List because they literally did Santa's job in Heroes. Then again, this logic would also qualify characters like Tharja, Zephiel, Jaffar, all three House leaders from 3H, and the literal Demon King Fomortiis, so that argument is kinda flimsy.

  • @SugarMeowYT
    @SugarMeowYT 20 днів тому +1

    9:10 rosas palutena guidance says that she doesnt really care about the lumas. I think she should be naughty list

  • @Andrew-hz5zc
    @Andrew-hz5zc 18 днів тому +1

    8:38 Hm... I ain't so sure about Palutena going on the nice list. With how much she and everyone else troll Pit in Uprising, plus this little quote:
    Pit: "But you would never abuse your power, right?"
    Palutena: "Of course I would. That's part of the goddess job description."
    I really don't think Palu's spot on the nice list is very stable...

    • @padriazozzriaorizifian8672
      @padriazozzriaorizifian8672 18 днів тому

      Being the protector of humanity is a LOT of brownie points. a. LOT. of brownie points.

    • @Valderami
      @Valderami  18 днів тому +1

      Yeah she's earned the right to do a little trolling

  • @fakelife9466
    @fakelife9466 20 днів тому +1

    Spoiler alert ⚠️ I think robin could go on the good list because he was able to not go through with the bad things that he was supposed to do, and he does sacrifice himself

  • @skeiththe3rd
    @skeiththe3rd 20 днів тому +1

    I think Richter should be on the naughty list. Yes he is a good little Christian boy, but his need for purpose after he defeated Dracula got him brainwashed by shaft and almost unleashed a newly resurrected Dracula onto the world. The only reason it didn't happen is because Alucard was there.

    • @Valderami
      @Valderami  18 днів тому +1

      We love a guy with a good support network

  • @belmontzar
    @belmontzar 19 днів тому

    Ken is honestly a pretty great guy.
    Devoted husband, father, and that homeless guy is his best friend Ryu, who asks for the hands. Hell, Ken even uses his canonical fortunes to help out fellow fighters from helping fund restaurant construction, to donating to Interpol to help out Chun Li and his brother in Law Guile.
    Then again I can see Ken willingly taking the coal to support his bros [Ryu and Terry] and then use it to cook some good food.

    • @Valderami
      @Valderami  18 днів тому

      Someone else commented that Ken uses crypto currency and that's naughty behavior in my book

  • @Telomerase9
    @Telomerase9 20 днів тому +1

    The whole getting possessed by Dracula and doing his bidding in Symphony of the Night might be enough to put Richter on the naughty list. Not sure of Santa's policy on mind control. Also splitting it directly in half seems a bit odd, I feel like in the future you should just allow uneven lists.

    • @Valderami
      @Valderami  20 днів тому +1

      I forced myself to make an even list because it would have made the video more interesting.
      I think the video would have been boring otherwise because it would basically just be me saying who is good and who is evil

    • @Telomerase9
      @Telomerase9 20 днів тому +1

      @@Valderami I mean that is what the video is already, evil and good are basically just naughty and nice. I like the nuances you put on it of focusing on what it typically means for kids though, (ex. Falco being too cocky puts him on the naughty list despite saving the world from Andros). That was a sweet touch that made it different from generic good and evil. However the addition of an even list doesn't really lend anything to solving that good/evil categorization problem. All it does is make you jump through more hoops of logic to put someone in a category you don't really think they belong in.

    • @Valderami
      @Valderami  18 днів тому

      ​@@Telomerase9I felt that those weird arbitrary hoops were funny and made the video more interesting

  • @leffmaynardfamily7910
    @leffmaynardfamily7910 21 день тому +5

    Greninja should be on the nice list based on your reasoning for other Pokemon. His characters is good in the anime. Also His starting evolutions are just water he is dark only as Greninja to add flavor into being a ninja.

    • @Valderami
      @Valderami  21 день тому

      @@leffmaynardfamily7910 I respect your insight, but this begs the question, who would you place in the naughty list instead?

    • @leffmaynardfamily7910
      @leffmaynardfamily7910 21 день тому

      @@Valderami just remove doom guy hes not even in ssbu

    • @leffmaynardfamily7910
      @leffmaynardfamily7910 21 день тому +2

      @@Valderami wait that doesn't help put min min she's royalty and beats people up for a living

    • @Valderami
      @Valderami  21 день тому +1

      @@leffmaynardfamily7910 yeah but I really love noodles

    • @BJGvideos
      @BJGvideos 21 день тому +1

      ​@@leffmaynardfamily7910She's royalty? Doesn't she run a noodle shop?