Detailed Epson P700 printer review 10 pigment inks, A3+ 13" width roll and sheet paper
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2020
- Keith Cooper reviews the main features of the Epson P700 A3+ (13") printer.
The video accompanies a much longer detailed review of the printer at www.northlight-images.co.uk/ep...
The P700/P900 printer profiles created for the reviews are available (updated list in the written review)
Epson papers
PGPP
Premium Luster
TPP
Hot Press Bright
Cold Press neutral
Along with
Canson Rag Photographique
Olmec Photo matte archival 230
Hahnemuhle Smooth Fine Art 265
Pinnacle Lustre 300
Pinnacle Baryta 310
HP Artist matte canvas 380
Hahnemuhle Watercolour 210
Fotospeed Platinum Cotton 305
HP Aquarelle 240
PermaJet Ultra Pearl 295
Note that profiles are for the P700 or P900 - they are identical in this respect.
If a paper isn't listed then I have not made a profile. If you are not in the UK then remember your paper may not even be available here.
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Hi Keith, I know it is 3 years on, but the information provided here and in the written review is absolutely relevant to my current search for a photo printer. I really appreciate the level of information, and the logical way in which it is presented. Very helpful.
Glad it was helpful! I do keep the written reviews updated whilst the printer is on sale.
Watching your videos is like taking a course - so much useful information, well organized, neutral and objective reviews. I am planning to invest in a fine art printer soon to start my illustration business, and I feel lucky to have found your channel just when I needed this information the most. Thank you very much!
Thanks - glad they have helped.
Do check the links to the more detailed articles as well, since they go back to 2003, whilst the videos only go back to summer 2020 ;-)
@@KeithCooper Thanks - will do! :)
Keith, I find your videos excellent ! Thank you for doing them available to everyone !
Thanks!
FYI - Paper and Front Loader Tray problem.
Paper fed through the rear feed. As it comes through, the leading edge of the paper can hit/nudge the front loader tray (on the inside), due to curl or thickness of paper. After repeated hits/nudges from lots of printing, the front loader tray can be pushed open. If the front loader tray is fully open/open enough, it will stop the paper being forwarded and end in a wasted print.
When this happened to me, I managed to spot the front loader tray open by a few millimeters and pushed it back in place. Luckily, this did not spoil the print. After printing, I noticed the front left and right edges of the paper had become bent/crushed.
So, try and make sure the whole leading edge of the paper is as flat as possible and keep an eye on the paper until it is past the rear edge of the front loader tray.
Thanks for adding this.
Great video Keith. Good to see real hands-on experience with the printer.
Thanks - these are new for me so it's helpful to know they are useful.
Keith, Thanks for making the video ... seeing a hands on demonstration is extremely helpful to me. Well Done !
Thanks - one for the P900 is my next task
I love your videos, sooo explanatory and well done. I love the dropping of the photos behind you on the floor, it reminds me of myself.
Thanks! No second takes on many of these ;-)
I'll join the chorus of praise. Amazing review!
If I could ask for one thing, it would be a somewhat longer section where you review the prints.
Thanks - The P700 is coming back form Epson next month for me to test further and make a few more videos about different aspects of printing.
I only had it here for a while, for the original review.
All material will also be linked in the main printer review at:
www.northlight-images.co.uk/epson-sc-p700-printer-review/
Do remember that my videos are generally produced to supplement my main written articles, where there is usually much more detail.
I enjoy your frank, practical, informative discussion and demonstration, be it, I am at this moment hindered to move forward. However, since studying your presentations, I am learning in good advance considerable of the pro- printer principle, and the psychology I am likely to encounter, including that of myself when it comes to being subjective Certainly, I ought to read too what you have also written, but you have put mind at peace, that when making final choice, pro photo printers today will all produce worthy results. Thank you Keith.
Glad it's been of interest!
It's a good printer, even if I'd personally prefer the wider P900 ;-)
It is likely I will go for P700 or if providence is my way, I agree the P900 has a valid case. What you have done, is put clarity in my mind what is capable to produce first class prints, the importance of calibrating. Whether, I can turn this into profitable, simply, you have nicely answered that too in a meaningful way..what is that inspires another to want your print, not what I want them think?
Great video. Well worth the time watching. I had already read your written review, but this video added more "context". Next time, instead of throwing the prints on the floor, you can ship them to me!!
Thanks - I'm looking to do some videos with more reviews, now I've got round to learning a bit about video production.
Thanks Keith, excellent review (together with the written one)! I just gave up on my epson 3800 and am choosing between sc900 and canon p1000. When I decide it will be mostly based on your reviews
Hopefully the P900 will be here before too long ;-)
Very useful. Thanks for sharing Keith. Have always loved your reviews and this one too!!
Thanks - I'm hoping to add more videos to supplement the written stuff. A P900 should be here some time.
Thank you for the video. It was very helpful. I just received my new P700. yesterday. I would have purchased the P900 but that model is impossible to find in Canada. Concerning the P700, I am quite surprised by the flimsy and very cheap nature of the front loading tray. Prior to buying this model, none of the reviews I read had raised an issue with the feeder. However, on my first day with the P700, the front tray would not take my Fine Art paper. Finally I gave up and used the rear tray. Upon googling this issue with the front tray I discovered other folks had similar issues and comments to mine. A little disappointing. In any event, your overview did make it easier for me to set up the P700. That part went seamless and I thank you very much.
Glad it helped. The only issue I noted with the top feed was that it could occasionally have problems when grabbing multiple sheets. However, the initial P700 I was sent had been damaged in transit, so I wasn't sure what was due to that (the 2nd P700 was fine).
Have you checked my P700 articles? - they have lots more details than the videos.
Thanks too for letting me know - I do make updates to the reviews and articles over time based on what I hear. Unfortunately, the printer has gone back to Epson, so my testing is finished. I'd just note that the P700 is essentially the same from a print point of view as the P900, so I've articles about that as well.
All the 700/900 articles/reviews are here, if you've not seen them:
www.northlight-images.co.uk/photography-articles-and-reviews/
@@KeithCooper Thank you so much for your quick reply. I will check your articles. I do understand that both printers are essentially the same in terms of the quality of their output and that is something that your video comparing the two printers confirmed to me. I would have preferred the P900 precisely for the reasons you explained in that comparison video, but the P900 is just not available right now in Canada and with the intensifying of the pandemic lockdown - I would like to spend the next few/several months that I will be stuck indoors on a deep dive into Fine Art printing. Thus, I now have the P700 which is meant to be an upgrade on my Canon Pro 100 - which I hope it is. Thank you once again. You are amazing. Please stay safe.
Thank you for your review! You've helped me make my decision to purchase a p700!
Glad I could help!
If you've not seen them, do have a look at the written articles as well - much more detail there.
Thanks Keith, relatively new to your web based content (which I find very useful and detailed), but I also appreciate a good bit of video content so please keep these coming. Thanks :-)
Thanks - will do!
Yes I like the videos, but I also read your website. Both is important for me. I own an SC-P 600 and think of going to the 700 or the 900 because they do not need to switch black inks for different papers. And the Canon 300 looks nice too... so I really need every little bit of information, that’s why I like both, video and web site! Thank you for your excellent work here.
Thanks for the comment - Epson UK are sending a P900 as soon as they have some stock. From a print quality POV they will be similar (same icc profiles), but obviously a bigger machine.
Brilliant review, just helped me decide what printer I’m going to buy for my business!
Thanks - glad it was of help
Into my second week of using the P-700. Watching your videos and yes reading articles been really really usefull. Thanks!. Setting up the printer and getting started I did better if I had not spent some time at Cooper University. The prints I done been really good. Finally I got some issues with prints, not big but, details I cant ignore. Not printers fault because I know that is good since the test prints (the first prints that done of course) are perfect. Wondering where got the importance (and the images) of doing test prints first with a new printer / paper? ;-) Root of my issues I am sure comes quality of my non calibrated monitor. Well next project is to fix that so in advance thanks since you got good stuff about that topic to!
Glad to have been of assistance with things!
Keith thank you very much for all these videos so helpful, keep the excellent work u r doing. Bernard
You are very welcome
ALWAYS interesting and well done ! Thank you for your efforts.
Thanks - that's appreciated!
Always a pleasure watching your videos and reading your in-depth reviews. Quick question, in my region i can't find the P700 but instead a P703. From the looks of it and the specs i have the impression it is the same printer. Would you have any thoughts on this?
Ah, yes... sometime Epson uses different model codes in different parts of the world. If it looks like the one I'm testing, it probably is
One surprise I had with the printer is the timing: It always say will take 8min for A3+ and 4min for A4 but usual use less. Except twice it have used much longer on two of color print I did. All of 38min on a A3+. Really looked like it had to calculate how to do those. It counted down from 8 / 4 to one min and then was on that one min until done. Prints absolute fine and the time on the "log print" did show actual time used. Since I am not into mass production was more amused than annoyed.... What annoyed a once was I lost a A3+ print: The printer just decided to eject paper in mid print without I been near the control panel. I noticed I had closed Epson Print Layout after print started, should not have mattered as I belive once printer start printing it got all data but only thing I can think of. Just wanted to share some experience that not read or heard about and thx for all the great content.
Thanks - always welcome, since I usually only get to test the printers for a limited time.
Very helpful. Currently trying to decide between, P700, P900. For B and W only. Thanks
Thanks - If you've not seen them, check the main written reviews - both have B&W related supplements too
www.northlight-images.co.uk/epson-sc-p700-printer-review/
Thanks very much for your reply. Video is very helpful. Is Ethernet the best ,for hard wire selection. Thanks. @@KeithCooper
I bought the P900, with extra black and grays. Since i will only be printing B and W.
Thanks Keith for the video.
I'm torn between this and the Canon pro-200! Fantastic reviews, thank you.
Thanks
I'd just note that the pigment ink based PRO-300 is decidedly closer to the P700 than the (dye based) PRO-200
@@KeithCooper Thank you - unfortunately the pro-300 is out of my budget. I was surprised to see the P700 is somewhat nearer the cost of the pro-200! I'll keep the pro-300 in mind though as I might be able to get a good deal for one (if they're ever back in stock....)
Sure... I was only considering the technology differences ;-)
Prices vary so much around the world that it's one bit I tend to avoid in any detail
Thank you Keith. Very informative and honest. I read a comment on the b&h site that the cartidges that come with the printer are 15% (also seen on your intro video). For these prints in the video. How much ink did you use? Did you have to load new ink? A full set of ink is quite costly at roughly 400usd.
The actual setup carts are overfilled (I weighed them) so that 15% figure is wrong. It may possibly refer to the ink displays after setup, which are rather low (see the main (written) review for more detail).
There is now a second maintenance cart shipping with the P700 (in the UK/EU at least) Don't get another spare, since after initialisation it fills very slowly (just cleanings/borderless overspray).
I did some 20-30 prints before the inks started needing replacing. GY was the first, then LGY >LC > VLM > Y by which time I'd printed several hundred prints (inc. the 3.9m panoramic).
So, yes, new inks will be needed a bit too quickly for my liking - but then they last for ages. Even so it would be good if Epson put more ink in the startup carts to lessen the shock of those ink levels after setup.
Hi Keith! I am so grateful for your reviews! I'm debating between this and the Canon Prograf pro 300. In terms of feeding in heavier paper, would you say this one does a better job of handling? Anything other advice you can think of to help me decide, I'll gladly accept! 😂 Haha. Thanks so much!
Whilst I never do comparisons between printers, I'd note that when I did some Christmas cards last year, and had lots of printers cluttering up the house, it was the PRO-300 I used...
Great reviews Keith many thanks, I have read both the epson p700 and the canon pro 300 reviews do you have any comments regards the running costs, I presume given the larger capacity in the epson this may be more economic.?
Well, for the PRO-300, look for PRO-10 ink cost info and expect some 10-20% improvement (or so Canon tell me)
The 25ml Epson carts are obviously bigger, but the Epson print head is entirely new so we can't simply compare ink costs. The printer is currently too new for reliable usage info (Red River paper have some good testing) I'd look for P600 info and assume the P700 uses a bit less for actual printing (but I don't have data to back this up)
Very useful review and good to see you doing these type of videos. Video reviews have certainly taken over from written reviews these days. It would have been nice to see a few more close ups perhaps, and I'd love to see more of the prints. My aged Epson R2400 is just about on it's last legs so this looks like a possible replacement. I presume it would also be a step up in quality perhaps?
I've read elsewhere that the supplied cartridges are only about 20% full. If so that's really shocking and an appalling and wasteful practice, although I know Epson are not the only makers who do this. Most reviews recommend buying a complete new set at the time of purchase which adds another £280 to the price. Epson also say the maintenance tank should be replace one a year; your review seems to suggest it's going to be another expensive and more frequent consumable on top of the already vastly over-priced epson ink.
Thanks - the detail stuff still goes in the written reviews (which remain paramount because they are in so detailed and can be updated), and unfortunately the resolution and colour accuracy of my HD video makes showing prints problematic.
Print quality will be improved somewhat over the 2400 (not a huge amount) but the main differences are the various features and lack of black ink swap.
The comments you've seen about cartridge capacity are not strictly accurate - the low levels after charging are due to the flushing through of the lines. This is why the maintenance cart is nearly filled, and why new printers will be supplied with a spare one. Unfortunately the carts are still low after start-up, not good. Annual MC replacement is wishful thinking by Epson and completely unneeded. With the upcoming free MC I expect this to be a relatively rare replacement - your question has reminded me to update some info in the written review about this. Feel free to email me if you've any specific questions, since the P700 is still here.
Hi: Received my p700 about 10 days ago. Sent in the rebate form so that does save you $200.00 here in the US. I believe the initial 10 p700 ink cartridges are fairly full but inital printer set up uses a lot of ink from each ink cartridge to fill the necesary lines which run to the printer heads and some goes to the Maintenace Tank (I believe) so there goes close to 70-80% of your initial ink in the cartridges. I just bit the bullet and order a complete new set of cartridges and a spare ink maintenace tank. I just found out that most all printer ink from all printers is twice as expensive as a comparable amount of human blood. So when these cartridges run out I'm only useing type A, A+, B. and O for printer ink. I hope I don't bleed out before I am done printing. :-)) Take Care and Good Luck. Hot Rod
@@Mr.HotRod I was wondering does the SC 700 have a maintenance box so now I know thanks
Very nice, fancy printer. Like all higher end printers if you do photos Thei ink is super expensive. It does all firmware updates by itself which is nice and prints fairly easy from any internet pages which I like. Take Care Hot Rod@@AdultshopitCoUk
Very helpful. I have this in mind to replace my Epson R3000 once I run out of my Fotospeed inks. How does cost work out using Epson Inks? I assume that the larger cartridges make the differential between using Epson inks and third party (good quality) inks such as those from Fotospeed less of an issue?
Almost impossible to say at this stage, since my own usage is very atypical (lots of testing) and is using a brand new printer. The printer does use a lot of ink at startup (there is absolutely no truth to the rumour that the initial carts are 'nearly empty') but then overall use should be broadly similar to the P600 (maybe a bit better).
The printer should now be shipping with a spare maintenance cart - this one should last for a long time. I mention this since I've heard of people wanting to keep a spare after replacement.
Once you put foreign inks in, it takes quite a while for them to fully flush through (meaning a loss of accuracy of ICC profiles) - I personally would never use them, but YMMV.
You also need to see if 3rd party inks even can be used yet in the P700 - the design of the carts is all an all new one
Thank you awesome review! very informative.
Thanks - if you've not seen it, there's a lot more detail in the main [written] review at
www.northlight-images.co.uk/epson-sc-p700-printer-review/
great video! I've just bought P700 but I can't find ICC profile for this version.
Thanks - They should be installed with the printer setup (my UK one did, on my Mac)
Excellent review, thank you.
Thanks - do check the written reviews as well, since that's where the detailed stuff is
Great video, very informative and well worth watching.
Thanks - do check the written reviews as well, since the videos are mainly produced to supplement them ;-)
Great and useful review
Thanks - I have a P700 returning here soon. I only had it here a while originally, so I've a few more articles (and videos) to do...
Very helpful, especially to a beginner. Thanks!
Thanks - Do check the full review as well for more detail?
www.northlight-images.co.uk/epson-sc-p700-printer-review/
Great video, I've watched a number of them today and found them very useful. I am a successful club photographer and my Epson R3000 has just died due to the MK/PK black valve jamming, so I'm looking for a new printer. If you had to choose between the Epson P700 and the Canon Pr0-300, which would you choose?
Thanks - glad they were of use
Not a choice I can meaningfully make - since the answer is always 'it depends...' ;-)
The 700 is a successor to the 3000 - personally I'd not pick either, but then again, my minimum printer size is 17", preferably 24" :-)
Thank you so much for the video Keith. I love my Epson SC-P700!!
I have a question. Does this printer would take waterproof A3 paper?? Looking to buy 8mil synthetic paper.
Thanks again!!
That's ~0.2mm believe? [no-one here uses mils]
So, for thickness, it should be OK, but the exact surface coating of these papers varies.
Some may work fine, but others won't take the ink properly
Only way is to test, with a few different media settings [a custom media setting may be helpful]
See the main [written] review for more
www.northlight-images.co.uk/epson-sc-p700-printer-review/
I came across your reviews, thank you so much they are so informative. I currently have a very old Epson R800 that is on it's last legs which I use to make fine art prints of my paintings along with wedding stationary. I also have an A3 Brother that I use for everyday printing, mostly to print out ref photos for painting from. I am looking at the P700 to replace my R800, but wondering if it is going to be too expensive to also use for printing my ref photos on plain paper, which I don't need quality prints for. I would like to be able to only have one printer if possible.
Sounds like the ET-8550 might be worth a look, if the R800 is good enough?
I've several videos looking at it and will have a full review before too long
@@KeithCooper Thank you, it was on my list too, but I wasn't sure if it was ok for printing long lasting fine art prints from my paintings?
My work is watercolour so don't need rich dark blacks.
I have a video coming in a week or so showing how I used the scanner to copy a watercolour print and make cards from it on an art paper. Dark blacks have little connection with getting either a P700 or ET-8550.
If you are happily using an R800 then that's what suggests the 8550 might actually be OK for you
I also have a video rendering at the moment all about 'Art prints, marketing and the illusory concept of 'quality' ' I use the 8550 as an example - it won't probably be up until tomorrow though.
@@KeithCooper Many thanks, I'll look forward to viewing it and thank you for your time to answer me
Well done, thanks Keith!
Thanks!
Excellent video Keith. Really helpful. Would be interested to know how this would work for Giclee prints and a rough estimate of how much ink it uses. Best wishes. Tim
Ah 'giclee' or inkjet as I call them ;-)
Yes, with good paper and profiles it's capable of producing prints for any gallery. A lot depends on the market you're producing prints for. I haven't tested it yet but the P900 (at 17" width) might be a better choice. See the full review on the site for more details about ink usage (the videos are only an overview - the detail goes into the written articles).
@@KeithCooper thanks for this Keith... been waiting on the release of the P900 for a while now and getting impatient as I'll probably be printing A3 more than A2. But probably worth the wait for the option.. Will head over to the full review asap ... Great idea to post these videos tho. Am sure a good few people wouldn't have found your reviews otherwise. Cheers and all the best.
Very interesting! thanks! i am using an Epson Stylus R3000 for a long time and very happy with the results. Is this new printer better in terms of print quality?
Ah, a tricky one to answer [meaningfully].
Does the R3000 still work and are you getting god results? If so the differences may not be that obvious
I'd actually suggest reading my proper [written] reviews of the two
www.northlight-images.co.uk/epson-stylus-photo-r3000-review/
As to 'print quality' - just what does that actually mean ;-) No two people agree ;-)
Could I produce excellent results on the R3000? - yes. Could you tell them apart in a blind test? I would probably have difficulty if everything else was optimal (paper, profiling, editing, photography)
@@KeithCooper Thanks! the R3000 still produces very fine prints , was just wondering if there would be visible differences in detail and/or colour saturation and /or Max Density for B&W..
Visible - maybe, but I wouldn't wager much money if you made me conduct blind comparisons.
There is obviously no black swap any more and the print head is definitely improved - the screen is good, but 'better'?
Enough to ditch a perfectly good R3000 - likely not
hey keith thanks for taking the to make these in depth reviews. i was thinking of getting the p300 as it is closer to my price range. is going up from the 300 to the 700 worth it if i would like to make multiple prints of my photos for my own business?
Thanks
The 300 gives good results and has good paper handling - to get an idea of costs see here
www.redrivercatalog.com/rr/cost-of-inkjet-printing.html
However what is 'best' depends on the business aspects more than printer characteristics - I've quite a few videos on the business of prints. It usually has precious little to do with printer specifications ;-)
hi keith i really enjoyed your videos
Thanks - glad to hear that!
thank you for your great video
Thank you too
Hi Keith. Thanks for the review. I like many here, are considering this and the Canon pro300. Do you have any remarks as to how the inks compare? Look, price, durability? (Both are pigment ink printers?) This would be my first printer for photos so I have no experience with either brand.
If you've no experience printing I'm going to suggest that from a visual POV, you'll see no significant differences (assuming optimal images/editing/paper/profiling)
Have a read of my actual reviews for more (that's the proper detailed written ones, not the video overviews)
www.northlight-images.co.uk/canon-pro-300-printer-review/
www.northlight-images.co.uk/epson-sc-p700-printer-review/
See what features matter to you? If you've any specific question email me at Northlight?
Hi Keith thank you for your very informative blogs I am considering the purchase of a quality
Printer for the first time and my question to you is p700 or pro-200? I do take a lot of black and white
Images so your thoughts and advise would be greatly appreciated thanks in advance
Regards Steve
For B&W it has to be pigment inks for me, so the choice ought to be P700/PRO-300
See:
www.northlight-images.co.uk/black-and-white-printing-with-the-pro-200/
and
www.northlight-images.co.uk/black-and-white-printing-with-the-pro-300/
www.northlight-images.co.uk/black-and-white-printing-with-the-p700/
Thanks for this video, really appreciate the insight!
Glad it was helpful!
If you've not seen it, there is more detail in the written review on the Northlight Images site (see video notes)
@@KeithCooper Thank you! I'll check it out.
Hi Keith, thank you so much for the video. I'm new to printing my work on a 'professional' printer but I'm looking to invest. Is there a simple metric for evaluating how many prints you can get from a full set of cartridges? I know that that is fairly reductive question at this level, given that there are myriad options for printing which will all use different amounts of inks. At this stage though I have no idea how many prints I can expect from a £250 set of cartridges. Would you be able to give a ball park figure of a4 pages at a 'standard' print setting? I note that in your written review you have told us; "It was only some 15-20 biggish prints before inks started needing replacing." How many prints would you expect from a second new set of cartridges? thanks in advance.
This is the data source for working it out: www.redrivercatalog.com/rr/cost-of-inkjet-printing.html. The 700/900 use just a bit less ink than the P800, so use the figures and methodology with the capacity and prices of the 800/700/900 carts to get some estimates (until they update the article for the new printers)
this was so helpful :) thank you so much!
Thanks - there is lots more detail in the main [written] review. Also, have a look at P900 info as well - from a print quality and general use POV, the two are just different widths.
Great Video! Do you think there will be refillable ink cartridges available for this printer?
No that won't happen - not from Epson, and I'd never use 3rd party inks
Great video as always! Just wonder if the printhead is user replaceable?
Thanks - No, it's not.
However, that's because Epson use a different printhead technology, so they don't need replacing like the Canon ones.
Replaceable heads are not better/worse - just a different approach to printer design.
And now I understand, thank you so much!
good video keith will now read the review
Thanks - it's long ;-)
This is one reason I've just recently started doing the videos...
Great Video 👍.
I would also be interested in a comparison video of different printers.
E.g. Epson P700 vs Cannon Pro-300
Thanks - See my recent video as to why I never really do that sort of review ;-)
ua-cam.com/video/x8vmmlbakn0/v-deo.html
You'll have to read the main (written) reviews for more details than the videos.
ive got a p600 but with a broken light magenta channel. its not dry, it just leaks somehow and the cartidge always empties super fast and prints zero. do you estimate it would be more convenient to repair it or buy another one altogether? thanks for your knowledge and great content
Repair might be an option if you have the knowledge and parts - it can be very expensive though. You've also no idea how long it will last...
Ask here for example www.printerknowledge.com
Looks a potentially good reason for a new printer...
@@KeithCooper thank you!
Keith, enjoy yr unbiased instructive product videos. One question re: the Epson P700. The front feed mechanism--it loads Epson Velvet Fine Art and Hahnemuhle Photo Rag about 90% of the time on my printer without fail, but Printer whirs and clicks/cracks during paper load. Not sure if this is normal behavior or a problem that will get worse or cause printer to fail. Wasn't able to discern "loading audio" from your various P700/P900 videos if this is normal behavior or not. Any thoughts?
I've heard this from a few people. I saw it on the top feed of a printer that had to go back after damage (shipping). The noise was most off-putting and then stopped.
The 700/900 had to go back, so I've no longer term reliability data on this - I'd suggest keeping an eye on print forums such as at DPReview to hear from a larger sample (albeit biased towards people with printer problems)
@@KeithCooper Thanks for the useful reply Keith. I know its much to ask but if you do a new video on the Epson 700 or 900 or thick paper testing it would useful to hear the "audio noises" coming from the front load mechanism of your "normal behaving" printer when it loads. Although it sounds like you are no longer a loaner/owner. Thanks again.
@@fredmuehter3307 Yes, I'm afraid the 900 and 700 went back to Epson - there were serious complaints in the household over having four printers here over Christmas (canon PRO 200 and 300 as well) If I can get one back I'll definitely do some more testing
Hi Keith. Thanks for the video. This is a printer I'm considering purchasing. I'd be using it for color and B&W prints (8x10 or 8x12) that I display in a local gallery. My question - if I am only printing 1 or 2 images a month, will I run into clogging issues? Should I consider another option? Thanks for any advice.
Thanks - glad it was of interest.
No printer will appreciate such light use - print more often is the answer ;-)
I'm going to say that unless you are already experienced in using the P700 you are going to be doing more prints anyway. No new printer is just a replacement for another. Consider too that you need to decide which papers to use - no two printer types are the same. You choose the paper AFTER choosing the printer.
Once all this is sorted I'd have a reminder on my computer to make sure I did, if nothing else, a basic nozzle check (on plain paper) at least every 2-3 weeks
@@KeithCooper thanks so much for that detailed and thoughtful reply. I will heed your advice if I move forward with a purchase.
Very helpful
Thanks
If you've not seen it, do check the main [written] review - much more info...
www.northlight-images.co.uk/epson-sc-p700-printer-review/
Very much enjoy your videos
Thanks Brian - the P900 has just turned up so I'll have some more in due course
That terrific, just received the P900 from Adorama.
Very good.thanks.
Thanks
Would be great help if you can give some opinion of it compared to a comparable model like the Pro-10 or Pro-300 Canon. Does HP make any in this size, or are they just large format now? Can't decide if this new P700 belongs in the studio or next to the kitchen sink.
Unfortunately I never do comparisons between different makes. I do detailed (written) reviews which allow comparisons to be made. Also I'm always happy to answer specific direct questions privately by email, since what matters to one person may be an irrelevance to another (borderless for example)
HP gave up this area of printing over 10 years ago - office stuff, or as you say large format.
I don't think I've ever tested a printer I'd feel safe using near a sink! ;-)
PS I will be doing a quick P700/900 comparison, since they are so similar in many respects - I'd pick the 900, since I like big prints, but YMMV...
@@KeithCooper Thanks for the reply. Yes, the last one in this area was the HP 130. I use the z3200, its a 44" and I really like it. I am in a bit of a pickle...Either I upgrade my Pro-10 to a new printer, or I buy a new printhead for it for about $150. I am not able to clear the alignment and head from deep cleaning even. I also soaked them a little, and may need to do more. BUT, I got to this point by using 13x19"/A3+ paper that was not perfectly flat, so the print head hit the corner sides of the paper and may have damaged the head(is that easy to do or?) or did I get fibers jammed up in the nozzles? or something...I was just wondering the ink and overall print characteristics and differences. The format differences might not be important, as you said, I dont care for borderless, and actually realize this can cause issues later on.
The PRO-300 uses (I believe) the same print head as the pro-10 so print quality will be broadly similar (there are some minor improvements, but most wouldn't notice) - the printer around the head just feels not as clunky as the PRO-10 did to me. The paper handling in the 300 is improved.
Heads can be damaged through head strikes
Any modern printer I've used in the past few years can make stunning prints - we're in the area where photographic, editing and print making skills define the differences that most people would see. Bad prints are now the user's fault (myself included)
@@KeithCooper "Heads can be damaged through head strikes" Well, this maybe the main issue I have. It happened about 10 times. One of them cutting 1mm into a 286gsm paper. If the nozzles are delicate and are the first exposed parts that can take a hit from the edge of a paper...and that head does move fast...I guess perhaps that the nozzles are damaged. I printed numerous alignment patterns, and cleaning nozzle checks, and have gone through TWO full sets of ink to clean and test...I can email you photos of the test patterns if that would somehow give any evidence to what might have happened to the nozzles. Thank you greatly for your input and responses.
As for the Pro-300, unless it had a vacuum feed like the Pro-1000, I would not easily consider it. I maybe in the market for a used Pro-1000. But my experience with Epson goes back a couple decades, and I stopped using Epsons after the Pro4800. Epsons I have used have been the most finicky printers. I have used HP, and that was likely the only rival until Canon made more headway with Lucia inks. Either way, if I replace my z3200 one day, it would likely be a Canon, but these print heads are pricey..HP is individual and they are about $25-40 per head. They are also rather robust and can be cleaned, and even use a Waterpik on it for stubborn clogs. Maybe they have less finesse, but I will take function over finesse at this point.
(2022-12-01) - Hello ... am wondering how your P700 uses/used ink. I bought the P700 earlier this year. I print in colour on luster paper and I print a lot. Since I started using the P700 I've used 6 LG carts, 3 Gs, and 1 each of the PB, VM, VLM, LC and Y carts ... the violet and cyan carts are still the ones that came with the printer ... is this cart use similar to what you've experienced or heard about with other users? Thx.
Ah, I can't say much from my usage, since my testing is quite varied in print use - also the P700 went back to Epson [I can't afford to buy all these printers!]
In general though, you do find quite varied usage of inks and it's the greys which almost always go down fastest. 'Booster' colours like violet, green, red, orange are usually the slowest.
@@KeithCooper ... thank you; I asked because I used an epson stylus p2400 for many years and its ink use seemed to be much more uniform with a slight bias towards the light gray and light cyan carts.
Yes - one of the biggest technical developments in better printers [in the last 10-15 years] is the whole area of how ink droplets are placed and the mix of colours to produce the results. Stronger colours and use of greys feature with much more accurate dot placement.
Of course a lot of this is _very_ proprietary information - so there's very little detail makes it out of the printer design departments ;-)
Do you have any advice about fixing printer rollers? I am starting to have problems with my Epson P700. The top feeder doesn't take up the paper properly, leading to misalignment / skewed prints. The last print I did, towards the end, the rollers did not feed out the paper, and the print head went over the same area again and again. So, any help about fixing this problem? Thanks.
In the past I've cleaned them with isopropyl alcohol, bit I don't know what access is like with the 700
How old is the printer? - this is something I'd be concerned about for a newer printer
Bought it second hand about 18 months ago, so not that old, though I do not know how much abuse it received from the previous owner. However, I've printed over 100 A3+ prints, so it must be in a good enough condition.
Over 95% of my prints I use the top/rear feeder. I have had one or two slight misalignments before but vast majority were OK, so I ignored those problems.
But the second to last print, a couple of weeks ago, I heard some roller straining sounds. Print came out OK.
Tonight's print, came out with the errors I described above.
I am searching the internet for P700 roller fix information. If I am brave enough, I'll open it up and use Isopropyl alcohol.
In the meantime, I'll use the front feeder and see what happens.
Update: Forgot to say that all my prints have chunky 1 inch borders on all sides. So, should not have overspill gunk build up on the rollers.
What happens when the ink levels are low and you start a new print? Does the printer warn you and not print? Does it try and print and not finish the job? Does it start to print, let you replace the cartridge and continue printing, without error (missing or blurred areas)?
You get warnings before prints - at a certain point it will also tell you there may not be enough for a print. If you carry on and it runs out it you will likely lose the print.
Now, I only tried this once so I cannot be 100% sure that you can't change cart mid print, but I suspect not.
I'd certainly not start a big pano print if I got the warning. Smaller prints? You might get a few out.
Yeah, I suspect Murphy's Law will strike me if I try a A3+ print. At the same time, I don't want to throw away the ink as it is so costly. Argh!
Hello sir! This is the better machine or the Canon pro-200? In terms of little details. I planning on printing super detailed blueprints.
Two very different printers
If it's detail you want, read these
www.northlight-images.co.uk/driver-settings-and-print-detail/
www.northlight-images.co.uk/best-canon-pro-200-driver-settings/
@@KeithCooper I very appriciated the quick answer, and enjoyed both review videos by the way.
Great down to earth video, Keith! I'd like to replace my age-old 1290 with this machine. Or maybe the P900, if it ever comes out...
Thanks - Hopefully I'll get a P900 at some point to test.
Thanks so much for this video! Just wondering, as I know the inks are expensive to replace, does that make the cost per sheet price quite high or does the ink last for quite a while as there’s so many cartridges?
More carts mean more total ink available to use, but with the 700 the smaller carts do need replacing rather soon after initial setup
See here for a good guide to some costs
www.redrivercatalog.com/rr/cost-of-inkjet-printing.html
Sometimes, Epson's Layout plug-in, launched from inside Photoshop, renders a horrendous image - colours totally off, B&W super crunchily sharpened etc. I have to waste expensive ink making small test prints to assure myself the final results are not that bad. Have you noticed similar problems? If so, how do you solve the non-WYSIWYG issues?
I've not seen that problem with the software at all - I've only tested it on older Macs launched from CS6.
I've tested on several printers and it always works just as I've shown in the screen shots in the videos
Ok, thanks for your reply. FYI, I'm using Win 10, Photoshop 2021 (version 22.4. 2). The only thing I can guess at is my graphics card (Radeon 7770, 2gb vram) is not up to scratch? I wish these mature software and hardware products would make life easier. 😁
I'd suggest asking on the printer forum at DPReview - l've just not used a win PC for so many years.
Hello friend, thank you for your videos. Could you tell me how many A3 color prints this printer can make before changing the cartridges?
No idea I'm afraid - my testing does not give such info.
After initial loading, the carts started running low after a few dozen large prints - the second set will last much longer.
Go here and use known ink costs to work out the number from the print costs
www.redrivercatalog.com/rr/cost-of-inkjet-printing.html
thanks for reaplying me. So the first boot load doesn't print much, but subsequent loads print a lot more? Do you have this information about the Canon pro300? How many colored A3 sheets does it print before the next cartridge change?
@diegomartins5787 Yes - read about it in the main [i.e. written] review
www.northlight-images.co.uk/epson-sc-p700-printer-review/
I cannot ever answer such questions when testing - my tests are too varied to get any meaningful data
@@KeithCooper i'll read It. Thank you. Have a great night.
My last comment got auto deleted. It happens a lot these days...
Thanks for great reviews Keith! I have been watching a lot of your videos for the couple last weeks😎
Me and my wife are going to start printing watercolor paintings and selling those. We have 2 printers in our minds... This sc p700 and Epson ET 8550. Which one would be better suited for watercolor prints in your opinion?
We are going to mostly do A5 and A4 sized prints.
And what about ink costs... Due to my investigation printing with Sc p700 is more expensive. Am I correct?
Thanks - I get an email about the post, go to reply, and then it's not there... My suspicion is that it was the channel mention that did it? There is no way of going 'no, keep this one' AFAIK
The 700 with its pigment inks and easy availability of icc profiles for papers is a better quality solution, but will cost more. There is also the question of scanning/capturing the original watercolour artwork (I've covered this for the 8550).
Expensive is a relative thing if you are selling stuff - it all depends on what market you are selling into. I've quite a few more business oriented videos looking at aspects of this.
This give a good starting point for print costs
www.redrivercatalog.com/rr/cost-of-inkjet-printing.html
Thank you for the helpful overview Keith! I am currently looking for a printer that can handle larger format (A3/A2) for posters and smaller format books/booklets. Do you think a P700 or a P900 would be good options?
Both might well do - I'm currently testing the P900, but it will be a few weeks until I have my reviews and some videos to go with them (remember, the written reviews will usually have far more detail than the videos)
It does depend on just what you actually mean by books/booklets - I tend to test photo printing - sheets and roll.
Keith, how do I go about sizing up an image in Photoshop so that it prints exactly as I want it to? For example, I have an image I want to print on A4 paper and I want a 1/2 inch border all round - how do I resize the image to fit the paper? I've been experimenting with lots of different image sizes, and regardless of what I do, in the soft proofing, in Epson's Printer Layout plugin, some of the image is cut off. The only time I see the image in its entirety is when Epson's plugin does an automatic resizing but that leaves me with a bigger border than I would like. So, is there a way to do what I want? Thanks.
I do this from photoshop on my Mac with a custom page size with custom margins. The problem is that this changes the aspect ratio, so unless you resize the image correctly or let it be cropped by the margins, you can still get not it quite right
Thanks for your reply. I will try out custom option tomorrow.
I have found a way to do what I wanted. First, in printer preferences, I had to set the Level to Standard, Quality or High Quality. Only these would allow the Borderless option box to be ticked. I set it to High.
Once Borderless was ticked, then Epson Printer Layout plugin in Photoshop allowed the border I wanted, in this case 1/2 inch all round.
Finally, I had to use an image that was resized/cropped to fit.
So, it can be done, but a very roundabout way of doing it.
Further, even though I set the Level to High Quality in Printer Preferences (to get the borderless option, to get my margins), Epson Printer Layout plugin now allows me to set Level to Max Quality! So, which one will the actual print use - High or Max? God knows. 😆
Choosing Max Quality level and then ticking the Borderless check box, you get this error message:
[LEVEL 4 (Max Quality)] is currently selected.
This setting does not support [On] printing. [On] printing will not be used.
Yeah, very informative Epson. Thanks a lot.
I've emailed Epson, asking why the printer cannot print Borderless on Max Quality. I'll let you know their reply when I get it. I doubt they'll give a good, detailed and honest answer.
My suspicion is that it's because of the borderless and that will be due to paper movement precision at the end of the sheet
When I use custom borders on custom media sizes, I don't select borderless since the expansion setting can be an issue. As long as my chosen borders are bigger than the minimum
However - setting at max quality on the P700 is rarely something I'd choose (especially for B&W on a lustre paper)
The 'max' settings are, on many printers' there as much a marketing feature than anything of significant use. With any printer I look to see if there is a significant difference (this varies with media).
Received this from Epson regarding the error:
"Unfortunately borderless printing is not available at max quality. This is due to the amount of ink involved, which when printing borderless at this quality level could cause ink leaks, etc."
Hmm, so they've engineered a device that cannot handle ink leaks beyond a certain level. Ok, so be it. At the moment, I don't print borderless anyway, so not a concern to me.
Hello,
(sorry for my english, I'm french^^)
I just changed my printer. I took the sc P700 which replaces my old r2000..
But I'm disappointed on one point, it's the obligation to have a margin when you put the quality from level 4...(1 to 5). With the R2000, I didn't have this problem, whether level 1 or 5, the photo was printed in full page (without margin or border). With the sc p700, I have no choice..
Moreover, at equal quality: when I go to quality level 3 on the Epson R2000, as well as level 3 on the sc p700, the photo is sharper (better definition) on the R2000 than on the sc p700..
Is there something to do that I did wrong?
Thank you
See here for some info about print settings
www.northlight-images.co.uk/driver-settings-and-print-detail/
Print sharpening requirements obviously differ by printer model and media - you do need to experiment
There are margin over-rides, but be careful with using borderless a lot - it makes a mess in ANY inkjet printer over time
In general, there is no great benefit to be derived from the highest print settings
Can you print on a vinyl film with this printer? Like the Oracal 651 film?
I suspect not - this is an aqueous ink printer.
Most vinyl media work with solvent inks or dye sub
However I do not know this particular media at all...
@@KeithCooper Thank you for the answer.
Jus t received on from eBay - Problem , it keeps on saying paper jam error , but the paper does not appear to be jammed. Looks like it is falling to sensor / load into the print Bay Area. - Anyone got any ideas how to fix the?
Sorry, no - this is one where Epson would get it back to be replaced [my first review machine was damaged in transit]
One place to ask would be www.printerknowledge.com
Which do you prefer this it the Canon image graph 300?
Neither from a personal POV, since I like making much larger prints ;-)
Beyond that, it depends on what you want to get out of printing. Print quality is excellent for both, so it's about all the other functionality - it's one reason my actual reviews (the written ones) are so long ad detailed.
I'm afraid I've never done actual comparisons or ratings in any of my hundreds of reviews, since there is never a simple answer
Keith Cooper I love your written reports thanks for taking the time to make them
FYI - especially for beginners.
Using the front paper loader tray to load paper. Once the paper has been fed into the printer, the printer will instruct the user to close the front paper loader tray.
However, if the front paper loader tray is left in its pulled out position, and a print job is sent to the printer, the printer will start to print regardless!
Then, part way through, the paper will butt against the front paper loader tray. The printer will stop printing. The printer will instruct the user to close the front loader paper tray. Upon closing the front loader paper tray, the printer will continue printing.
The leading edge of the paper, where it butted up against the front loader paper tray, will show marks/ruffles.
So, though it is a user error, the printer should not start printing until the front paper loader tray has been shut. Bad show Epson.
That's a very worthwhile note
i have never liked front-loading printers with way to much messing around, back end loaders going with gravity work much better in my opinion
If you’re a B&W photographer, can you get away with using only the relevant cartridges? Or do all cartridge slots need to be populated to print?
How does the B&W quality compare to the Canon pro-300?
B&W is a mix of inks to get a neutral tone, so no
For B&W see:
www.northlight-images.co.uk/black-and-white-printing-with-the-p700/
www.northlight-images.co.uk/black-and-white-printing-with-the-pro-300/
@@KeithCooper Thank you Keith! Would you personally recommend one over the other?
Ah, no - I prefer a larger printer ;-) I have an Epson P5000 here
The ink costs of the 700 make the 900 a better long term choice, whilst the 300 has small ink carts - I'd prefer to see what might replace the PRO-1000 (later this year?)
See if this matters to you?
www.redrivercatalog.com/rr/cost-of-inkjet-printing.html
One area where the 300 is better, is in paper feeding for things like cards. The 700 has roll support, but very little paper is available for 13" roll
Hi. What if you arnt using the printer on a daily basis. Lets say i go without using the printer for 1 month.. What should i do? Power off the device? Remove the inks?
Turn it off but IMHO it needs a print of some sort (a nozzle check print) every couple of weeks.
It depends somewhat on temperature/humidity, but no inkjet printer will appreciate being left for a month unused.
Removing inks is a very bad thing to do - they are a sealed system
@@KeithCooper thanks
@@KeithCooper thank you
Can the Eason p700 print on acetate paper; type of paper used for overhead projectors? BTW, love the video and thank you for sharing. Big +1 Like
Yes, but it needs to be a film specifically for inkjet use. With the wrong film, the ink just doesn't dry
@@KeithCooper with your expertise, what film would you recommend for inkjet use and/or film that will dry? Is it possible for Epson p700 13-inch?
Not one I've tested in any detail
This worked
www.permajet.com/product/digital-transfer-film-165μ/
@@KeithCooper thank you. I will try this with the Epson p700. Thank you Keith
Unbelievable. On Wednesday of this week I had to return the Epson P700 that I purchased two days earlier due to issues with the Fine Art front feeder not working properly. Unbelievably, the Epson P900 that I exchanged it for is also giving me issues with the front feeder.
Thanks for letting me know - I'm collating any such reports and will be letting Epson UK know when I next chat with them. Not that I specifically think they take notice of me, but I know they do like to hear about feedback I get, wherever the printers are.
@@KeithCooper In my googling of the feeder issues I have come across similar complaints to mine, most notably on DP Review. I am beginning to think that this is a defect with overall design and build of the printers - and judging from those comments I have read - Epson is aware of the feeder issues.
Yes, my printers were very early models (one was pre-production) so I'm always careful about what I find fault with.
@@KeithCooper I just spoke with Epson U.S.A. (Long Beach, California). According to Epson the feeding issues are due to an incompatibility between the third paper paper (Moab and Canson) I am using and the printer. If I insist on only printing to that media (meaning Moab and Canson paper) then Epson's "recommendation" is that I return the printer back to the store. That was their wording -"return it". The only solution other than returning it is to use Epson paper. I do like the printer and I will give that some thought over the weekend.
Whoa that is an utter cop-out IMHO. Who buys a printer at that level and only uses Epson paper - not the sort of response I'd expect from Epson here. Sorry about that.
When inserting a paper into the printer, the paper type can be set on:
1) The printer;
2) The printer preferences (Windows, Control Panel, Devices and Printers, Preferences);
3) Epson Print Layout plug-in in Photoshop.
So, exactly where do I set the paper type? All of the above?
I asked Epson. They replied:
"If using Photoshop, you will need to confirm in the print dialog box if Photoshop will manage the printing operation or the Epson Printer Driver will. We normally recommend to set the Epson Printer Driver as the printing engine because we cannot guarantee any results or performance with third party software or components."
Hmm, their answer doesn't exactly give me any confidence they know their own products. Epson Print Layout is their own software, is it not? Do they do any testing at all?
Further, they added:
"However you can do some tests using different settings and will see that the printer result will vary as the settings in question differ from one system to another."
Oh great, I have to pay thousands of pounds for their printer and exorbitant inks and then I have to do the testing myself. Thanks a lot, Epson. 😠
Their explanation is a corporate one and correct, even if not as helpful as it could be.
The media type on the printer can be set to flag a warning on mismatch - personally I always make a point of setting it here, so as to avoid mistakes.
The media type is set in the printer driver settings. I set the profile to use in the photoshop print dialogue.
If I'm using Epson print layout, then I select the media and profile there
No there is no real confusion here it is a basic process, as outlined in my articles and videos.
The caveat is that I've not used a windows PC this century, so can only be certain in the Mac based examples I show
I'm doing as you've suggested, on the printer and in the printer driver - just that I'm a bit nervous something else is set somewhere else that could affect my printed output.
Shame there is no 1-click solution. I'm sure they could design it if they chose to spend the time and money.
Well, as they replied, I have to do my own multiple tests to find the answers.
A '1 click' solution is just not feasible if you want the flexibility to use custom profiles and third party papers and print from third party applications
The nearest to that level of being able to ignore what is going on is Epson's print layout software where selecting an epson paper type can automatically select a profile. That is why Epson answered the way they did - I would do so too in such a situation...
There is no need to set anything in printer preferences, since they are defaults, overridden when you set the driver.
Apart from the printer, you should only need to set media and profile once, albeit sometimes in different places
Hello everyone. I am deciding between (1) Expression Photo HD XP-15000 Wide-format Printer and (2) Epson SureColor P700 13-Inch Printer,Black. The printer is for my greeting card business which I print hundreds of cards a week. I am wondering which has (a) best quality (b) better ink pricing (c) why would the surecolor be worth $500 more? (D) which one prints better with thick 130 lb card stock paper? (E) better program for printing a greeting card Looking to buy one next week so any advice or feedback would be great!
The 15000 is a light use multifunction printer with limited profiling support and very small carts
Hundreds of cards a week? - have fun sitting by and feeding card into it. See my other videos about making cards for lots more info, and a look at the 8550, with big ink tanks
The P700 has more ink - what's more, it's pigment ink - which may matter for some uses, but it will need new ink carts pretty soon after setup.
My real question is just what led you to this particular choice... They are such different printers
130lb card stock - will be useless in either printer unless it is a card meant for inkjet printing see
ua-cam.com/video/ezQzC1JZPT0/v-deo.html
Thank you for getting back to me!
So you recommended the Epson ET 8550? For Greeting Card purposes such as using thick card stock and good lasting ink?
Any other ones to consider?
Thank you!
No I don't ever make recommendations ;-)
More a suggestion to consider it. I have videos about printing cards - and articles such as
www.northlight-images.co.uk/greeting-card-paper-and-printing/
Not sure exactly what 130lb card is - (this is a US only measurement) but plain card i.e. not card specifically for inkjet use, will look poor on any desktop printer I've used.
The key thing to remember is
'Cheap card = Rubbish prints'
Okay thank you.
Would you happen to know if the Epson EcoTank Photo ET-8500 has a similar greeting card program to the Canon PRO-300 you had in your article? Or is that program a download that can be used for both printers?
As far as paper, what is best thick paper to use? In the video that you had where did you buy the paper? Looking to purchase bulk of best quantity.
Thank you in advance again.
What is cost of 12+18 print in p700
No idea... ;-)
Start here:
www.redrivercatalog.com/rr/cost-of-inkjet-printing.html
...add in your local costs (incl. paper) and do the maths.
It varies so much around the world that I don't ever work out the figures
I’ve remembered, Paperspectrum! Ignore the message thanks. Hi Keith. If my memory is correct, you recommended a paper supplier local to you who had a good reputation. I can't for the life of me remember the company but wonder if you could remind me please. I have been printing BW exclusively, but have recently done some pleasing colour work which I'd like to print, so am looking for advice and a (trusted) supplier. I've read some of your reviews and get the 4 basic papers, but which to choose! thank you
The UK three paper suppliers I regularly test are PermaJet, FotoSpeed and Paper Spectrum - all have good ranges and supply/make profiles
@@KeithCooper thank you Keith.
Mr. Cooper question does this printer have a USB drive for printing directly without a computer?
I had to check the specs in case I'd missed it, but no it doesn't - nor does the P900
Ok thanks Mr. Cooper that's strange a top printer like this should have one...
No, it's very much a 'consumer level' feature - there is no proper colour management for example. It like printing directly from a phone - sure it works, but you can hardly expect the sort of quality you'd expect people to be buying a P700/900 for.
The ET-8550 has one, but that is partly so as to be able to scan to the USB (which is also shared on the network)
Thanks Mr. Cooper I was planning to buy a P700 but since it doesn't have that USB think I'm going for the 8550 looks pretty good so far
OK, but why is a USB socket important to you?
I'm curious since I've never had a use for one...
Hi Keith, I love your video's! I am an amateur photografer. i have an old HP office jet and i want to buy either the canon pro-300 or the Epson P-700. becaurse i want to learn the complex job of printing with a very good printer. I love black and white and soft color landscape and architecture foto's (eg the inside of a big church. foto's. I know and respect your choice of not comparing printers in the sense of 'what is the best". I am experimenting with paper, so i do not have much experiencing in that area. I would like to print also on a3 format. Can you tell me what the greatest differences are in the two printers? Not only in termes of the actual outcomeresult and carasteristics of the print, but also in terms of handling and installing ICC-profiles. Can you give me a bit of advice? also on the paper to use with the canon -300 or the epson p-700. Thank you very much already. Greeting Henk In Utrecht (Holland)
Thanks
The 700 has roll support (only 13") and bigger ink carts
The 300 has very solid paper feed/handling
prints - maybe I could spot the difference - don't put too much money on it.
The videos are only overviews, so do read my written reviews - they are where the true detail lives ;--)
They also get updated/corrected as needed.
ICC profile work exactly the same as any printer on win/mac
Papers I tried - see the reviews, but note that are what I have available in the UK
Any specific questions - email me at Northlight?
cool box ; )
Well it comes in just a normal cardboard one...
Hi Keith. Is this pigment ink printer?
Yes
Something I have noticed from get go.. It swallows about £200 worth of ink (estimate on a set costing maybe £230) just setting it up, before you even do a single print!
That is one way of looking at it - I see it as starting off with very small ink carts.
The amount of ink left after P700 initialisation and the reduction of the P900 cart capacity to 50ml [from 80ml of the P800] are two features Epson will get no praise for, from me.
I like the printers, but both these thing just seem a trifle petty if I'm being honest
Also, any ideas please Keith? Just on my second only print.. A3 onto poster board and I have quite a bad print really, not what I would expect from a printer in this range, especially on its second only print! There are slight clustered specs of Black appearing where it shouldn't be.. one or two places. I'm frightened to death of having to put it through some cleaning process.. as you can see from my top comment. Any ideas? You might save me faffing around.. and some ink! Thank you.
2nd print and on poster board! That's 'brave'
Learn to use the printer with paper first - you cannot blame the printer for a lack of expertise - even with all the testing I do, I start off with a few test prints on a basic OEM [Epson lustre] paper, to make sure I've the hang of everything. Poster board printing needs care - I'd made 40-50 prints before I attempted it.
Oh and sorry, some ink will likely be required within 20-30 prints
@@KeithCooper poster board was just a one off urgent need for my shop window display, for which the quality tho not perfect is adequate. Once I've saved enough money to replace the inks, it'll be paper 99% of the time. I just thought I'd ask as you seemed to be offering knowledge, but I see you have nothing to offer on this one. Sorry to have taken up your time.
See the poster board printing section of
www.northlight-images.co.uk/epson-sc-p700-printer-review/
It has links to all P700/900 info
FYI - Errors
1) Use superscript in the image filename. Open image in Photoshop. Launch EPL plug-in. You will get an error pop-up message box, showing a few random characters. No helpful information. And you can only dismiss the message box without knowing what the error was.
2) Latest EPL has one Chinese label even though everything else is in English (for UK/English user).
Minor issues that can be overcome by the end user. It shows poor quality assurance/testing by Epson.
Update: This is on PC, Windows 11.
One of my previous areas of work was usability testing and all software has this...
It does not show poor QA - have you informed Epson?
Superscript in a file name??? I'm almost tempted to say that's your fault for doing it...
Sorry , just wearing my old developer hat for a while ;-)
Sure, I understand your POV regarding superscript in filenames. But it is simply a character. It is 2022. All sorts of characters are used in filenames. So, why not superscript? But, let this issue slide by. My main objective is to let you and other users of the printer and software know the problem exists and how to overcome it.
Thanks - see my email reply ;-)
Blame ‘the wife’? 😜. Love the normal approach. First class.
Why certainly, but to Karen's credit, she is actually half of the Northlight Images photography business ;-)
I'm raising these issues in the hope you or one of your subscribers have the answers. Maybe even the Epson people from high on up 😀
Using EPL, A3+ paper size, choose Rear feeder. The minimum border is 0.12 inch (~3mm). Therefore, cannot do borderless.
Change to Sheet, still A3+ paper size, now the minimum border can be 0 inch, i.e. borderless.
Q1) Do you know if there is a way to choose Rear feeder and get borderless printing?
Of course I can always set it to Sheet and get borderless printing. However, there is another issue.
Choose Rear feeder and you can use Max Quality (Carbon Black). Choose Sheet and you can only go up to High Quality - no Carbon Black.
Q2) Why did Epson do this? Why is Carbon Black not allowed for the same paper type, regardless of how it is fed into the printer? Very weird.
I don't have a printer here at the moment to test this - hopefully someone can help.
I'd suggest a better place to ask would be the printing forum at DPReview
I think there is an alternative way. In EPL, choose Front No Eject Roller (Glossy Paper). Carbon Black option is available. And the bonus of not having "pizza wheel" marks on the print. When I next print, using this strategy, I'll let you know the outcome.