iPhone 12 Camera vs. Pixel 5 vs. S20 FE Comparison!

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  • @robr8213
    @robr8213 3 роки тому +113

    I like the S20 FE. Vivid colours, no dullness. Not boring...

    • @freshbakedclips4659
      @freshbakedclips4659 2 роки тому

      punchier colors

    • @reubenbenjamin8128
      @reubenbenjamin8128 8 місяців тому

      Very true..I am using it now as my daily driver! Simply amazing to finally hold a flagship phone in my hand, its like a dream come true

  • @rudrasabat316
    @rudrasabat316 3 роки тому +128

    I think that the s20 fe is the jack of all trades....gonna go for that one

  • @fernandocastillo3670
    @fernandocastillo3670 3 роки тому +135

    TechTubers always talk about how other companies caught up google in photos but not a single word for Google catching up in video quality.

    • @Beanjuice
      @Beanjuice 3 роки тому +16

      I've noticed this as well. Also when the Pixel does tend to lead by margins they tend to nitpick at shit that they don't in other images just to justify their obvious biased pick.

    • @johncenakiddo
      @johncenakiddo 3 роки тому +2

      dudeeee soo truee, pixel 5's video quality surprised me

    • @hdwblade
      @hdwblade 3 роки тому +2

      Because Google hasn't caught up in video quality. Their image processing is fantastic in photos, but it can't be done in real time for video. So you end up with a much more grainy video when it comes to any type of lower light shooting.

    • @RennieAsh
      @RennieAsh 3 роки тому +1

      @@hdwblade In some cases it has. Night is not so good due to bumping up the brightness heaps and using that older sensor. But day time is quite good at times.

    • @hdwblade
      @hdwblade 3 роки тому +1

      @@RennieAsh yep! But that can be said about just about any smartphone released over the past 3 years :/

  • @yahshaunyahu
    @yahshaunyahu 3 роки тому +291

    Why no one never points out how the iPhone makes porcelain skin look orange? Instead of pointing it out, they say its a "warmer tone" no its not. Its the Donald Trump filter

    • @arress2052
      @arress2052 3 роки тому +23

      Hahaha. I've been saying this for years. I guess people like looking like oranges.

    • @DanielNeubauer
      @DanielNeubauer 3 роки тому +17

      Finally one who says it like it is. iPhone skin tones are completely orange.

    • @jgsk78
      @jgsk78 3 роки тому +2

      I think this became obvious from I phone 11s, I mean I respect those devices and quality processing but that orange skin is apparent in all comparisons, can you turn it off?

    • @supaahflyy
      @supaahflyy 3 роки тому +12

      @@jgsk78 nah you can't. It's just how they process skin. Apple knows if they make people look more tanned, theyll like the photo of themselves more even though its not real

    • @smexehcougah3
      @smexehcougah3 3 роки тому +13

      A lot of Apple users are Trump supporters so that sort of makes sense XD

  • @rolins3279
    @rolins3279 3 роки тому +145

    On the FE disable the AI, choosing the warm tone for selfies changes the results a lot

  • @ronaldmalott7849
    @ronaldmalott7849 3 роки тому +43

    The color in pixel phones are so natural looking.

    • @alexworm1707
      @alexworm1707 2 роки тому

      I don't know about you, but my world doesn't look magenta tinted...

  • @gatocruz7513
    @gatocruz7513 3 роки тому +36

    They All good phones but I love my S20 FE colorfull pics. As always, excellent comparison and review videos

  • @Jo5ue1
    @Jo5ue1 3 роки тому +35

    I honestly can't get enough of the Pixel look in its still pictures.

  • @corey7219
    @corey7219 3 роки тому +49

    I'm watching on the s20 fan edition. What a monster of a phone!
    Today, from 6am until 9:30 pm my time, my phone lasted almost 10 hours of screen on time. With 120 hz on. I was on discord the majority of the dayz as well as reddit

    • @TechDaily
      @TechDaily  3 роки тому +16

      That’s crazy good battery life! Nice!

    • @justsomepandawithinternet
      @justsomepandawithinternet 3 роки тому +1

      Sheesh

    • @decentboy94
      @decentboy94 3 роки тому +2

      Is S20 FE worth it for heavy gaming ?

    • @corey7219
      @corey7219 3 роки тому +7

      @@decentboy94 I only really play Real Racing 3. And even that is rare now that I'm in school full time. Right now, on samsung's website, if you have a school email, sign into it and you can get the add-on gaming controller for a significant discount.
      As for the multitouch use that I've experienced, it's gotten a lot better with the October update. I do hear a lot of people on reddit say that touchscreen issues still come up when you use multiple fingers on a game.

    • @kenny_ng_ke
      @kenny_ng_ke 3 роки тому +7

      I have the s20 FE myself and it is worth it for gaming. I only had minor multitouch issues which was pretty much entirely fixed with the update. I also have the same if not slightly better battery life on my device.

  • @agisa123456789
    @agisa123456789 2 роки тому +10

    Team S20 Fe. Dynamic range is amazing

  • @genesisgarcia4646
    @genesisgarcia4646 3 роки тому +62

    I'm loving the pixel 5

    • @Reaperguy67
      @Reaperguy67 3 роки тому +1

      Same . I have a pixel 4 xl myself and it gets amazing shots as well.

    • @b11480
      @b11480 3 роки тому +2

      @@Reaperguy67 yeah the 4 XL is still amazing, love mine.

    • @Reaperguy67
      @Reaperguy67 3 роки тому

      @@b11480 yes indeed. You should see some of the astrophotography shots I get.

    • @b11480
      @b11480 3 роки тому

      @@Reaperguy67 I bet. I've never really had a chance to make the most of that feature but the pixel camera is amazing. The phone in general has been great.

    • @Reaperguy67
      @Reaperguy67 3 роки тому

      @@b11480 that's cool. It does a great job in low light as well. My favorite thing is the squeeze feature for the goggle assistant .

  • @danieljinmi
    @danieljinmi 3 роки тому +22

    Loving what i see from the google pixel especially the night shots.

  • @bendror8302
    @bendror8302 3 роки тому +37

    Pixel 5 win, more natural colors and white balance.

  • @Labeilibfoflne
    @Labeilibfoflne 3 роки тому +7

    Beautiful pics ! The three phones are great. There are really tiny differences between them according to me.
    Great comparison

  • @ianbarnes7588
    @ianbarnes7588 3 роки тому +6

    Always had a samsung. Got the s20 fe 5g . Love it . Just get better and better . Best phone

  • @dct1
    @dct1 3 роки тому +5

    I'm so impressed by the pixel 5. I'm currently using a Samsung S10 and was considering the S20 FE but the pixel is more what I'm after in terms of photography oh and it's astrophotography feature looks amazing.

  • @MagdielLima
    @MagdielLima 3 роки тому +8

    Great video man and nice photos by the way. The fact that the S20 FE at this price can compete with a iPhone 12 and a Pixel 5 is impressive. Here in Brazil the Iphone and Pixel coasts R$ 5.500 at least althrough the S20 can be found at half price R$ 2.400
    Looking foward to get one

    • @krykylinio
      @krykylinio 2 роки тому

      lol, right now, in Roumania Samsung S20Fe costs ~395 $ :))

  • @petross.6622
    @petross.6622 3 роки тому +2

    Nice video! What would you choose between the Huawei P30 Pro New Edition and the Samsung Galaxy 20 FE as far as the camera is concerned? Could you please make a video between them with photos taken during the day and night too? Thanks

  • @syimang
    @syimang 3 роки тому +4

    I'm surprise how Samsung have develop in the camera dept. in their S20 fe. It improved so much so much that I think it's better than their flagship of S21 class..but overall I love the natural & true to life photos of pixel 5. It is so real that we feel like it brought us at that place...at that moment. Superb!

  • @gichiboi8790
    @gichiboi8790 3 роки тому +9

    S20 FE is so cool to have than Pixel 5!

  • @SorayasFierceCookingShow
    @SorayasFierceCookingShow 2 роки тому +1

    Very helpful comparison.

  • @johnashersaguban7726
    @johnashersaguban7726 3 роки тому +8

    Like ur review keep it up☺️

    • @TechDaily
      @TechDaily  3 роки тому +3

      Like ur comment keep it up 😊

  • @emilkirma6133
    @emilkirma6133 3 роки тому +3

    I wish apple would improve the aperture on the uw lens on the 12, it would look much better handheld. In my testing, placing the 12 on a tripod and taking night mode ultra wide photos looked amazing

  • @shaheerburney398
    @shaheerburney398 3 роки тому +3

    I loved this video. Will be waiting for the 12 pro max camera video

  • @shingtak2388
    @shingtak2388 3 роки тому +12

    Pixel 5 wins by Photo and iPhone 12 in Video 💪

  • @davidsantiagotojo
    @davidsantiagotojo 3 роки тому +1

    Very honest comparison. Congrats!!

  • @hrmIwonder
    @hrmIwonder 3 роки тому +17

    "consistently inconsistent" is about right. Take a bunch of photos, each one will be the best in a 1/3 of of them.

  • @0rickkathy0
    @0rickkathy0 3 роки тому +1

    I would say these are all so close and very good. If you put them all in correction software you might be able to get them all to a point that appeals to you.

  • @predictor2045
    @predictor2045 3 роки тому +7

    2:47 Great dynamic on Pixel 5. But the Pixel 5 always give me a dim photo, maybe the older CMOS.

    • @chris-gr3cf
      @chris-gr3cf 2 роки тому +1

      my pixel 2 tend to produce underexposed photos and it's underwhelming sometimes

  • @shaheerburney398
    @shaheerburney398 3 роки тому +2

    I love your camera comparisons

  • @misterxinkognito1419
    @misterxinkognito1419 3 роки тому

    nice video thanks a lot.👍👍👍

  • @amazingthing7379
    @amazingthing7379 3 роки тому +1

    Awesome work.

  • @jejunamja
    @jejunamja 3 роки тому +2

    Great job on the video ... any of theses phone would be a good pick, just depends on personal likes

  • @mrenergy5364
    @mrenergy5364 3 роки тому +14

    1:55 Guy looks like he's stalking someone lol...

  • @marzeedaze4680
    @marzeedaze4680 3 роки тому +6

    “consistently inconsistent” very true!

  • @janmatejka9067
    @janmatejka9067 3 роки тому +1

    Hello,
    I have a somewhat specific request and I need advice.
    I need a phone with an excellent camera (main) and above all with the fastest possible picture. That is, with minimal post-processing.
    I will be using a company application to take pictures, so I need the camera not to depend on the application itself for image quality.
    The price does not matter, but ideally it should be an android phone. This is not a technical limitation, but rather a personal preference.
    Thank's in advance for any suggestions or recommendations.

  • @chancesareshewears
    @chancesareshewears 3 роки тому +3

    The FE is quite surprising..wow.. a must buy all things considered

  • @asifjamirajin2722
    @asifjamirajin2722 3 роки тому +8

    Pixel renders natural color. Keeps the detail .
    S20 fe renders over saturated colour what you would not like everyday. Personally I prefer pixel 5 .. more than iphones warm color.
    And look at 9:05. Iphone and s20 fe just forget that the green tree was there. Messed up

    • @andyH_England
      @andyH_England 3 роки тому +1

      They are all great with pros and cons and also very subjective as to colour. I would be happy with any of these though none are perfect in every aspect and due to the algorithms, you could take two photos with the same camera and get different colour temperatures.
      If I was pernickety re: photography then I would choose none of these, the iPhone 12 Pro Max would be my choice for best camera. Looking forward to testing Pro-RAW now it is on beta 12.3.

  • @TechDaily
    @TechDaily  3 роки тому +2

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  • @dragos-lucian
    @dragos-lucian 3 роки тому +7

    I returned my iPhone 12 after almost 3 weeks because of iOS and got a Pixel 5 instead. I regret nothing

  • @thememoryguardians
    @thememoryguardians Рік тому +2

    I'm an apple girl through and through but I love the way Samsung's phone produces the most natural colours but also vibrant looking photos. iPhones's have this awful yellow tinge to every photo (some might say 'warm') no matter the circumstances, and in particular the selfie cam photos are awful, producing flat, boring photos where any amount of skin texture is removed.

  • @emiljanodervishllari3924
    @emiljanodervishllari3924 3 роки тому +6

    Google is doing a great job convincing people on internet their camera is the best. I mean they are the internet so i shouldnt be surprised.

  • @patrickm1092
    @patrickm1092 3 роки тому +1

    At around 2:28 you failed to acknowledge that Fe flipped the picture on a different side in comparison to iphone me pixel.
    2. The picture couldn't separate the background properly, u can see it on your left chin.

  • @alevel79
    @alevel79 3 роки тому

    Great comparative

  • @Reaperguy67
    @Reaperguy67 3 роки тому +4

    I like the pixel phone by the way . I been using the same exact camera on a pixel 4 xl. I get great shots by the way. My 2nd choice is the iphone 12 pro max.

    • @TechDaily
      @TechDaily  3 роки тому +1

      Haven’t tried the 12 Pro Max yet but..tomorrow it arrives 🙌🏻

    • @Reaperguy67
      @Reaperguy67 3 роки тому

      @@TechDaily that's cool by the way

  • @edgarpereyranardin2568
    @edgarpereyranardin2568 3 роки тому +3

    Do you think that the s20fe is a good purchase at 570US$ ? In my country you can buy it at that price point

    • @papanut3305
      @papanut3305 3 роки тому +4

      I would say so, but only for the 5g version with the snapdragon. For that you're getting a great processor, great screen with 120 hz, good cameras, good battery, good speakers, water resistance, wireless charging, and a good android skin.

  • @shehryarhakeem
    @shehryarhakeem 3 роки тому +5

    Samsung s20 fe 👍👌👌💗💗

  • @liamblumeris6933
    @liamblumeris6933 3 роки тому +2

    Hey considering the s20 fe because it is much cheaper.
    Do you think the Gcam app for S20 fe makes a difference to portrait.

    • @darkmanx2g
      @darkmanx2g 3 роки тому

      Gcam on the s20 fe is actually really bad.

    • @liamblumeris6933
      @liamblumeris6933 3 роки тому

      @@darkmanx2g only for portraits?

    • @liamblumeris6933
      @liamblumeris6933 3 роки тому

      Apparently that's the only place we're it excels

    • @liamblumeris6933
      @liamblumeris6933 3 роки тому

      @@darkmanx2g I have watched a couple videos and the Gcam only improves the potrait mode and selfie camera. It makes it look more natural is this correct?

  • @Saethyan
    @Saethyan 3 роки тому +1

    Was it S20 FE or S20 FE 5G? Because of the different cpu they have slightly different image processing. The Exynos version is slightly worse and produces oversaturated photos in most situations.

  • @T.J
    @T.J 11 місяців тому

    Pixel seems to have the most balanced and refined approach to processing photos. Maybe not eye catching to most but a look that photography connoisseurs will appreciate a lot.

  • @shahrinram9848
    @shahrinram9848 3 роки тому +7

    hm, few shots where pixel not as good compared to ip12, but you still prefer the pixel🤔🤔

  • @jerrymeaw
    @jerrymeaw 3 роки тому +2

    Actually i m pretty proud of my S20FE5G :)

  • @DrumsJulz
    @DrumsJulz 3 роки тому +1

    Price wise, here in Brazil, nothing comes close, in terms of value, to the S20 FE. It´s a all rounder, super good and with features such as IP68, it´s unbeatable!
    Here it goes for around 350 USD, Unlocked. A pretty good deal, in my opinion.

    • @ozkolokUni
      @ozkolokUni 3 роки тому

      Take a look at OP 8t, and you will be amazed

    • @argumentiveboss6068
      @argumentiveboss6068 3 роки тому +1

      @@ozkolokUni nope..one of the worst detailed camera. No dedicated flagship feature

  • @gouravsingh2396
    @gouravsingh2396 3 роки тому +3

    Pixel 5 is incredibly awesome at his price

  • @mjmusictest2434
    @mjmusictest2434 3 роки тому +1

    Hey Wade!! 🤓

  • @carlosmiguel4756
    @carlosmiguel4756 3 роки тому +1

    Big dilemma here, i'm having a hard decision between buying one of these 3 phones. Can you help me? Which would you buy?
    iPhone i like a lot, it's powerful, top build, 5 year software updates cameras are good and specially video which i do a lot and i can get for 779.
    Pixel has google software experience, smooth and simple to use, cameras are good, battery is good but i think performance is not on par with the iphone. Costs me 700
    Galaxy S20 FE 5G is a good all around phone, photos are nice, performance is good, battery is good and i can get it for 480 with discount.
    Which would you get? Big dilemma...

  • @aser1249
    @aser1249 3 роки тому +1

    Nice my g

  • @aldhyescobar5944
    @aldhyescobar5944 3 роки тому

    There's nothing better than the google pixel 5
    -Good video 👌

  • @twistedmusicvideos2845
    @twistedmusicvideos2845 3 роки тому +3

    old sensor or not for me pixel the best

  • @shivadatta6002
    @shivadatta6002 3 роки тому +2

    s20FE.😍

  • @SrLopinho
    @SrLopinho Рік тому

    most are more beautiful than the S20 Fe, apart from the fact of its super saturation, in the dark it seems to be very good, the front, I believe I can make it with a better tone with configs

  • @Gogeta2vegito
    @Gogeta2vegito 2 роки тому +2

    S20 Fe wins me over

  • @aakashgill
    @aakashgill Рік тому

    Thanks, you mentioned the real color of water as reference so that one can understand

  • @gamingnostalgia4k791
    @gamingnostalgia4k791 3 роки тому +3

    Samsung camera tells you that you are American , and you lack melanin 😂😂 . Just kidding . Greetings from 🇮🇳.

  • @mohsenshirdastian4982
    @mohsenshirdastian4982 2 роки тому +1

    DUDE, u rotate the picture for s20fe and comparison different parts of the picture not the same part for all 3

  • @alexworm1707
    @alexworm1707 2 роки тому

    I really dont like the lack of contrast and yellow tint on iphone photos, they all seem like a filter was applied at the end.

  • @checkma8s
    @checkma8s 2 роки тому

    Why you dont include videos?

  • @Asphalt_
    @Asphalt_ 3 роки тому

    This is Christmas night and I hope give a pixel 5 as a gift

  • @wandervlogs8884
    @wandervlogs8884 Рік тому +2

    Wait my S20 fe 5g isn't that bad as your saying, seen optimizer is always on and it takes natural pics then wt am seeing on ur video, btw i use s20 fe has my daily drive, and iphone 13 for buisness i can s20 fe is almost equal to iphone 13 camera which was impressive

  • @cpl8168
    @cpl8168 Рік тому

    Truth be told, differences and nuances notwithstanding, for the average consumer, any one of these would be great. The question I have is, would any one of these basically render a point and shoot camera, even a high-end one, redundant or obsolete? Put another way, unless you're prepared to bring a DSLR, or know how to use one properly, would any one of these phones be perfectly adequate to serve as your only camera on vacation?

  • @roccothefrenchie8717
    @roccothefrenchie8717 2 роки тому

    My dad has a s20 fe and my mum has a a52 and the camrea is really good

  • @matejdrabek6982
    @matejdrabek6982 3 роки тому

    I am still indecisive between S20 FE and iPhone 12 switching from s10e
    Samsung got much better value for price but in at end iPhone feels better in hand and keep better value for resell.

    • @argumentiveboss6068
      @argumentiveboss6068 3 роки тому

      Budget- Samsung s20 fe( even it is still better than the competetor op 9pro(except core benchmark and high end gaming) and this blows up the OP 8 pro totally ) tbh I am an oneplus fanboy but truth is bitter,😭
      Iphone 12- the constant speed for at least 4 year, update of 6-7 years
      The resell value depends on battery health so dont run for it because you will get low amount than samsung(in case of resell) if your iphone's battery level becomes 80-82% because iphone loses its battery very fast

  • @Chris-xz1ii
    @Chris-xz1ii 3 роки тому

    Ok you creeped me out with the cemetery shot😬😬🇰🇪🧟🧟

  • @Gogeta2vegito
    @Gogeta2vegito 2 роки тому +1

    The heck do you mean the iphone takes "warmer pictures" it's just flat out orange

  • @TheSireeshKumar
    @TheSireeshKumar 3 роки тому +2

    S20 FE has more pleasing photos

  • @diegodiasmachado
    @diegodiasmachado 3 роки тому +1

    The comparison isn't right. The image on the S20FE is vertically inverted. For example, the comparison about wrinkles in 2:20 makes no sense..

  • @jamorant1912
    @jamorant1912 3 роки тому +1

    it is worth to swap my samsung a21s to iphone 7-8 ?

  • @titaniumd4894
    @titaniumd4894 3 роки тому

    An image should be vivid not washed out so that's why i like samsung why do youtubers tend to like fade out colors more than a photographic image and then they edit them with vivid filters to look more dynamic and professional and like the orange tone on iPhone

  • @teerthupadhyay3931
    @teerthupadhyay3931 3 роки тому +1

    Keeping aside prices apart from selfies no phone seems to be a clear winner in my opinion.
    I would however chose s20 fe which has larger sensor than the 3 and that would be best when you use gcam.

  • @Santti.G
    @Santti.G 3 роки тому +1

    s20 is an artist

  • @geldoffhuygelberghs6533
    @geldoffhuygelberghs6533 3 роки тому

    @8:42 de black car on the iphone vs the s20 fe ( iphone is like a potato compared to the s20 fe)....

  • @rakeshmeitei1680
    @rakeshmeitei1680 2 роки тому

    This reminds me of that ice age 's squirrel 😂

  • @goawaybrisney
    @goawaybrisney 2 роки тому

    I just want to know how photo apps like Snapchat, Instagram, and tiktok handle these phones cameras. I’m tired of my S9s camera quality being downgraded because of these apps inability to optimize their apps for Android 🙄😪

  • @wizardkoer782
    @wizardkoer782 3 роки тому +2

    Why do phone videos look so damn compressed?

    • @AigisSSBM
      @AigisSSBM 3 роки тому +1

      uhh......
      because they are.

  • @roemix8820
    @roemix8820 3 роки тому

    Its really hard between the pixel and the iphone.

  • @jgsk78
    @jgsk78 3 роки тому +2

    Yeah yeah, pixel s amazing, I loved it from the 2xl myself but I've got a problem with them, haven't upgraded camera hardware for years and memory still 128gb? For 4 years in s row now? And why not zoom lens? And as much the pixel is the best with human subjects and portraits, outside, with nature, landscapes, objects, is a bit boring. The limitations put me off of them and S20 is considerably more of a phone for the same money.

  • @sudhirchopra8578
    @sudhirchopra8578 3 роки тому +1

    Pixel is clear winner ... i am going buy one

  • @VareRetroSatana
    @VareRetroSatana 3 роки тому

    Pixel 5 my new phone :-)

  • @deetechgadgets
    @deetechgadgets 3 роки тому

    I choose Pixel 5. Consistent results in any condition

  • @heshangunathilake
    @heshangunathilake 3 роки тому +1

    Great video!👍Please Review Xiaomi phones!😊Please!😁

    • @TechDaily
      @TechDaily  3 роки тому

      Hopefully soon! Tough to get here in the US 😅

  • @mjlv123
    @mjlv123 3 роки тому

    I think there is not a clear winner theyall have their own in different scenarios.

  • @fafvvrfe
    @fafvvrfe 3 роки тому

    tbh i prefer the night video shots of pixel 5

  • @melissakautz9687
    @melissakautz9687 3 роки тому +2

    All the phones look great. Its a matter of preference and what ecosystem you like better. Even though all the pics look great I love iPhone. You get spoiled being in the Apple ecosystem too cuz all the devices communicate well with each other

  • @TrybikPLL
    @TrybikPLL 3 роки тому +1

    pixel has more realistic photos but i like s20

  • @keziajiao9306
    @keziajiao9306 3 роки тому

    Pixel still rocks!

  • @QuicknStraight
    @QuicknStraight Рік тому

    I think the Pixel wins for photography. Better detail, white balance and contrast in mosr shots and certainly at night. Video is a toss up, with none of them standing out.

  • @muhammedshabil8426
    @muhammedshabil8426 11 місяців тому

    In pixel switch off the stabilization so you can take more wide pics

  • @cautpenet
    @cautpenet 3 роки тому

    11:06 Follout 4

  • @HughRussell06
    @HughRussell06 3 роки тому

    I’d say the iPhone 12 and pixel 5 are the best. The s20 fe’s camera doesn’t do it for me

  • @stephaned3072
    @stephaned3072 3 роки тому

    Nice comparison overall.but note the pixel was seemed sharper but zooming in showed that it started oversharpening.so even if its sharper it wasnt the best shot in this case