How to Build & the Benefits of a Basic Geothermal Garden Cold Frame: Dig for Temperature Regulation

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  • By digging the base of your garden cold frame down 16-24 inches in depth, you can regulate temperatures better and manage frost. You can overwinter plants, put out transplants earlier, and seed start outdoors sooner, using a basic geothermal principle... the earth stays at a regulated temperature as you dig down.
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  • @renajones9404
    @renajones9404 Рік тому +1

    I love this ❤ Cold framing on south side of house is how my sweet Granny started her seeds. Thank you, Gary. Now I have to convince my grown sons to help me build one next time they are home. 😊

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  • @OldManandtheSuperC
    @OldManandtheSuperC Рік тому +3

    You can add some temperature regulation with additional thermal mass by placing water jugs inside with the plants. It warms during the day and gives off heat in the night.

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  • @theColdFramer
    @theColdFramer Рік тому +1

    wow such timing - I have started my coldframe seeding experiment this weekend - I expect germination just slower....BUT would have never thought to dig walls down...I forsee a summer coldframe upgrading project in the works lol

    • @THERUSTEDGARDEN
      @THERUSTEDGARDEN  Рік тому

      Perfect! It really makes a difference and another tip. Seed your flat and leave it inside until you see a few plants germinate and then put it outside.
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  • @kele1264
    @kele1264 Рік тому +1

    I'm glad you've given such a detailed explanation of your cold frame and how it and the deeper earth work to protect plants. I see the nail in that one corner. I'm looking to see how else you may have attached the cold frame to the wood. Did the instructions that came with the frame specify? Thanks Gary! (You always have the nicest pepper plants)!

    • @THERUSTEDGARDEN
      @THERUSTEDGARDEN  Рік тому +2

      The instruction are just for the frame that sits on the ground. The frame in the earth, I just built. There were screws on the other side too.
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  • @nightrush79
    @nightrush79 Рік тому

    That a boy Gary. Mini greenhouse.. Nice Teach

    • @THERUSTEDGARDEN
      @THERUSTEDGARDEN  Рік тому

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  • @joanies6778
    @joanies6778 Рік тому +1

    I definitely want to try this for next year. The ground has had a thick snow/ice cover since mid-Dec until a few days ago, so, it's still too frozen to dig. But I'm thinking this wood be good for flower seeds that need to be cold before germination. Then when they are big enough, I could plant potatoes on the floor and just fill it with straw to get an early start on them. Otherwise, I likely have to wait until the end of May. Right now I have 3 doz chitting potatoes, and it's too cold to plant them outside. It's worth a try!

    • @THERUSTEDGARDEN
      @THERUSTEDGARDEN  Рік тому

      That would be a great use.
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  • @AJWGBFX
    @AJWGBFX Рік тому

    Never seen this before. Obvious, now you’ve shown us. Unfortunately, my water table is high a lot of the time, so can’t do it. I use fleece (row cover) laid directly over my plants in my cold frames. Those peppers look great in there.

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  • @RoyHunt-uo4je
    @RoyHunt-uo4je Рік тому

    My Dad & Mom had something like that, they mixed cow manure in the soil and covered it with an old house window. They called it a Hot Frame. They started seed in it then transplanted when the time came.

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  • @amysnipes4245
    @amysnipes4245 Рік тому

    Perfect timing! Today I'm assembling a smaller Juwel. Northern Delaware, absolutely flat yard, soil is 100% pottery clay. Raised bed is 8" so I'd be another 8" into the clay. Do you think digging down 16" into the clay might just fill with water? After 1" of yain a few days ago there's no longer standing water but the ground is a squishy sponge. Raised beds are totally soft. What do you think? Worth a try?

    • @THERUSTEDGARDEN
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      Excellent. Mine is clay too and no issues. We get tons of rain.
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  • @THERUSTEDGARDEN
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    @313hobbyme Рік тому

    @6:29 I just purchased your book for my Amazon Kindle library. I love this channel and am so happy that you take the time to share with your subscribers. My husband and I have been gardening for a few years (we too a break during covid). He does all the heavy lifting, weeding, and harvesting. I focus on things like this and planning the crops. Your channel has been an absolute boon for me and gardening in an urban area.

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  • @radagast7200
    @radagast7200 Рік тому +2

    Do these keep roots cooler in the summer as well? I would love to mix this with some shade cloth to try to fight the texas summer.

    • @THERUSTEDGARDEN
      @THERUSTEDGARDEN  Рік тому +1

      Yea it would for sure. The earth as you go deeper stays pretty constant. Mid summer and Mid winter in places can be an issue as we are going down super deep. But you shade cloth idea should work.
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  • @jeffhiatt1682
    @jeffhiatt1682 Рік тому +1

    How do you keep it from flooding during rain? In the midwest (st louis), we can get storms which produce significant rainfall, and no matter how much grading / drainage you do on the surface, water will find a way in. Pretty sure you get storms in Maryland, so how do you keep water out?

    • @THERUSTEDGARDEN
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      We get lots of rain in Maryland. Never had an issue. That is a more clay bottom too. Unless water is running across the ground into it, I think you are fine.
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  • @benjaminbarber2840
    @benjaminbarber2840 Рік тому

    Personally I like this better than let's say a hot bed , there is the compost after use of hot bed , but for amount of work and performance this is my choice .

    • @THERUSTEDGARDEN
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      I really like this. It is clean a simple at the right depth.
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  • @starmountaingardens
    @starmountaingardens Рік тому +1

    How warm should a greenhouse be kept to keep pepper and tomato seedlings safe to grow healthy?

    • @THERUSTEDGARDEN
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      At night for great growth 50 and 80s during the day.
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  • @bugsea54
    @bugsea54 Рік тому

    Humidity raises the heat too

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  • @walterflanamonk4734
    @walterflanamonk4734 Рік тому

    Could add a couple milk jugs full of water to help keep temperature up too.

    • @THERUSTEDGARDEN
      @THERUSTEDGARDEN  Рік тому

      Yep good tip.
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  • @Calchick7
    @Calchick7 2 місяці тому

    Nice where did you buy the top parts of the cold frame?

    • @THERUSTEDGARDEN
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      That was a Jewell cold frame I got through Costco years back.
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  • @kingskings1013
    @kingskings1013 Рік тому

    So if you live in a state that has a high water table and has torrential rains in winter do I build up my soil to then dig down 16”? Bc here this right now would be 16” of water. Our last frost date this year is end of March. TIA appreciate the info. Where do we find the plastic panels?

    • @THERUSTEDGARDEN
      @THERUSTEDGARDEN  Рік тому

      The cold frames I bought years back from Costco online. Unless your rain water is running into the cold frame, it really wont be an issue. the water soaks in around it. But you can put stones or mulch the bottom. My soil is clay that deep and we gets tons of rain. Never had an issue.
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  • @stiiffyrabbit
    @stiiffyrabbit 9 місяців тому

    what the eff is a geothermal codlframe? quite, quite brilliant!

    • @THERUSTEDGARDEN
      @THERUSTEDGARDEN  9 місяців тому

      The depth in the ground actually regulates heat so that space stay above freezing. I can harden off plants and grow when my above ground is still frozen.
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  • @deirdreberger1363
    @deirdreberger1363 Рік тому

    Curious, do you use pressure treated boards?

    • @THERUSTEDGARDEN
      @THERUSTEDGARDEN  Рік тому +1

      I do. I am not worried about boards nowadays for decades it's just been copper. And copper leaching would actually kill plants before it got to a level that would be harmful to us. Leaching is a bit overblown. Good luck.

  • @thomasbrooks8112
    @thomasbrooks8112 4 місяці тому

    Does using this type of sunken cold frames eliminate the need to harden off your warm weather plants?

    • @THERUSTEDGARDEN
      @THERUSTEDGARDEN  4 місяці тому

      It does yes. They have to spend time in here and they get use to the sun. Well... several weeks in here gets the ready.
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  • @marksexton1340
    @marksexton1340 6 місяців тому

    Do you have a link for the cold frame...??

    • @THERUSTEDGARDEN
      @THERUSTEDGARDEN  6 місяців тому +1

      I dont I got it a long time ago.
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  • @jeas4980
    @jeas4980 Рік тому

    I'm going to spill my conundrum in hopes that maybe either you or someone else can offer some advice. I am building cold frames on the side of my greenhouse... my new greenhouse fluctuats from 100° F and 30° in 24 hours. Does a great job holding that sun heat during the day and at night the temp drops to freezing. I live in a swampy area. So... If I dig down 8-10" I have a puddle not a cold frame. I'm looking for consistency of temperature but not sure how to achieve it. Would it be possible to dig down to get the heat then backfill with lava rocks or pea gravel to keep from drowning my plants (in 10×20" flats)?

    • @THERUSTEDGARDEN
      @THERUSTEDGARDEN  Рік тому +1

      So I am not sure. It would be better than the ground using stone. The heat could rise up. If the water isn't freezing then it is staying at 32 degrees. I am just not sure how much benefit you would get if the air temp drops below freezing. I always say, it's worth an experiment.
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  • @titanart6225
    @titanart6225 Рік тому

    Gary any advice Re: mini hoop house. I attached my first heavy duty greenhouse quality plastic on my raised beds with hoops (4x8 and 3x8). I seeded root crops (carrots, beets, parsnips and radishes, along with spinach). It was 55 degrees and sunny and with the plastic the temp of the raised beds hit 80 degrees with direct sunlight. Today it snowed. 🤦‍♂️ it’s 35 degrees and my plastic is covered in snow and the soil is back down to 40 ish degrees or lower. I’ve seen people place frost blankets over the soil direct to warm the soil temp. I’ve used frost blankets on the hoops but never so close to the soil. Will this help germination? I’ve seen people soak the frost blankets with water to help germinate carrots, can I use this technique to germinate all these root crops and spinach?

    • @THERUSTEDGARDEN
      @THERUSTEDGARDEN  Рік тому +1

      At 40 degrees your cool crops are fine. You're working on getting the top 4 inches of soil to stay in the 40s and 50s regularly and the hoop house should do that. The heat from the day will help with germination too. The only worry really comes for prolong freezes where your soil and plants might freeze for an extended period. It wont kill them but it slows germination and growth down.
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    • @titanart6225
      @titanart6225 Рік тому

      @@THERUSTEDGARDEN what about onion transplants? I’ve been hardening them off for a few days, intending to put them out in a week or two because I started them in small cell trays I’m worried they are running out of room and I don’t want to pot them up, i’d rather plant them out. We still have freezing temperatures at night in zone sevena do you think I could still get them out or should I wait until April?

    • @kassandrapage4379
      @kassandrapage4379 Рік тому

      @@titanart6225 I have the same dilemma. I have brassicas, onions and lettuce ready to be transplanted but I couldnt even put them inside the unheated greenhouse because its going to snow for the whole week. I guess I wont be able to plant them in the ground till the last week of March or mabe first week of April. Im in zone 6ab.

  • @countrylivin3633
    @countrylivin3633 Рік тому

    would a cold frame work on concrete?

    • @radagast7200
      @radagast7200 Рік тому

      Sure. I think you will need a jackhammer, though.

    • @THERUSTEDGARDEN
      @THERUSTEDGARDEN  Рік тому

      They do. The cement might hold some heat too. But they would heat early and let you seed start in them and transition out transplants
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  • @bitchinrn
    @bitchinrn Рік тому

    My soil is so rocky, I’d need an excavator to dig that deep. Do you think a cold frame over one of my raised beds would be a waste of time and a potential plant homicide? 😂

    • @THERUSTEDGARDEN
      @THERUSTEDGARDEN  Рік тому

      No it would help warm soil and speed up germination and growth. But it is a lot to do for limited space. Row covers might be better.
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  • @jeffhiatt1682
    @jeffhiatt1682 Рік тому

    Those are 2x8 not 1x8.