My clutch makes a noise - is that bad?
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
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2015 Honda CB500x - recent purchase. It has 15k and i thought i'd been sold a puppy. When idling with clutch engaged, the noise made me worry A LOT that a new clutch assembly would be needed. Or at least a pressure bearing. But it sounds EXACTLY like on your video demonstration. Huge Relief!!! Thank you!
Thanks man. Was away from home on a work trip for a month... was warming up the bike and checking all things on a z900, and I heard this faint noise you're speaking of. Glad your video clarified things and my baby's alright. I'm never rough with her, mostly.
I have a 2014 Suzuki V-Strom DL1000. Same issue, sounds like a sewing machine, but it is all normal noise, every V-Strom sounds the same. I’ve become accustomed to it and hopeful it will eventually crap out a pair of Levi’s. You gave the best explanation I’ve heard to date. Thanks....
Always wondered why the wheel sometimes turns even when in neutral. Now I know. Thanks!
I enjoy your videos. Apart from your informative delivery, it's also like having a chat with a friend - no pretence, no gimmicks, just straight up knowledge and easily understood.
My XSR900 (2017 model) is my first bike in over 30 years, and I'm the second owner, and the longer I've had this bike the more apparent the previous owner must have ridden it hard - peg and brake pedal ground down, something I didn't see when I bought it. He'd also fitted a Delkevick racing exhaust and customised it here and there. To be fair, it's what attracted me to it. I'd always thought the engine a touch noisy, and this week I'd re-fitted the stock exhaust, and it so quiet by comparison that I hear a knocking from the clutch when not engaged. I can understand a certain amount of mechanical sound will be created, but this just sounds like a loud knocking/ticking. I'm going to be really pissed if this is a sign the clutch is in need of replacing. You'd think, if there is an issue, the dealership would have sorted it beforehand. I've now had the bike a year and done 2777 miles on it, and in total, the bike has just over 9000 in total, so not massive mileage for a knocking/ ticking clutch. Am I wrong?
Your clutch is fine after 9k miles. Unless you have some slipping issues
I have a tracer 900, it has the same engine as your XSR. It’s the noisiest clutch/transmission I’ve ever heard. I think they’re all like that
5:20 that might actually be the norm if you ride a Ducati ;)
I just randomly notised that exact noise when pulling in the clutch on my Mt07 recently and was wondering what it was. Im really happy I found this video, because I thought I broke something...
Ive been a mechanic for 20 odd years, started my z1000 and had this tjought i had a bearing away, thank so much
Perfect timing. My clutch started to make a little grinding noise now after I was suck in traffic with a bad charging system, so I had to keep above 2000rpm. Figured I wore the pads some, yet I have no slipping, so I should be all good
Thanks a lot man! This just happened to me exactly the same way what happened to yours. The morning i washed my bike (CB400) it didnt have the screeching noise instantly yet, but later that night, after going a few miles on the middle of a ride there it went. I was scared at first😂 "it sounded expensive to fix"😭😭😂😂
Great explanation! Thanks a lot, I thought the clutch is worn out and is making noise, warning me to prepare digging deep in my pockets.
Thank you for breaking this down so well and now I know why my clutch makes that noise and I don't have to worry about it lol
Good explanation, thx! I have an older Goldwing touring bike that I’ve notice this (and other harmonics developing) that concerned me. She’s always bit cranky sounding shifting up from 1st gear, esp when not fully warmed up, but a 1500cc bike, too. This clutch noise has gotten more noticeable, but otherwise seems to shift fine.Will quit worrying & just ride!
My headache is a rattle or crackling noise when the engine gets hot and the gears are engage. Could that plates make that noise?
Thanks Matt. I've always wondered about this.
Damn man I feel so proud of understanding perfectly when you describe how an engine warms up and why do engines need to be warmed up
It’s so satisfying to hear describing a running engine
To most people this would be boring or geeky and you most likely won’t land the girl you like but… freaking amazing piece of insight nonetheless
Awesome vid man
Thank you
thanks for this. I'm new to motorcycles and 2000km in my new Himalayan I starded to notice this grinding noise whe engaging the clutch; after a 300km or so ride. Thought I had burnt the clutch.
Now that makes sense when i disengaged the clutch it makes a noise since the gears have a free room (cause of worn out pads)
Love you explaination now i can ride peacefully
That answered a lot of questions. Just bought a ‘new to me’ bike and went straight to Pyrenees and noticed the same clutch noise. Panicked as I was so far from home. but your video was excellent. Great explanation. Cheers
I learn more and more by yr videos every day thanks so much
Came for drawings on the board, was disappointed!
hello my Tracer 9000 2018 makes a dry clutch sound when on neutral. Once i pull on the clutch, sound dissapears, is it normal? is it typical of a cp3 or should i inspect the bike?
Dude you are awesome thanks for the Info. i am a newbie rider, my ex ride did not make that noise. But i have a New ride and i freaked out a little bit when o Heard the sound. Thank a lot!
Great video Matt..as for Jake’s ‘chemical engineering’...I’m no chemical engineer, but the only things I can think of that get thicker as they’re heated is porridge or eggs?..I can see it now, damn, I picked up the wrong tub and put Quaker Oats in the engine...doh!
Mark's Little World Can you add me mom’s custard. But I ant brave enough to tell her. It’s the cake I like in slices. 😱👍
Dave P62 ha ha, love it mate 😆
You described my CBF 600 to a Tee, then pull the clutch in it all goes away and runs like a dream, when the bike is not used for a while (Over winter) I generally warm my bike up from cold with the clutch disengaged to get oil in between the plates... great post
6:29 - is that the fastest it goes? Old man's bike :)
Yah know wot Matt? I warmed my bike up this morning and witnessed the very same thing with the wheel turning, and the oil warming, and the wheel 'stop' turning; and I thought. Fuck me Matt is 'JESUS' in disguise. 🤣
Great !! Exactly what I was looking for. My brand new Triumph Tiger900 rally pro (2024) does this a little bit , so that has put my mind at ease , thanks very much , great explanation.
Who on earth is putting a thumbs down to this video?? WTF?? It's a great video made to help people, how on earth can some people dislike it?
"Who on earth is putting a thumbs down to this video??"
- Dude, leave them alone. Anyone and everyone has the freedom to be a wanker, don't deprive them of this freedom. Otherwise there will be a national increase in window licking, and I like being able to see through my windows.
Thank you for this. I bought a Triumph Trophy SE with some 53,000 miles on it that was making this noise. I have since put 7,000 more miles on it and sounds the same but it was keeping me from going on some long rides. No more baby rides.
Ace, because my Fazer 1000 clutch is noisy, but works perfectly
As the owner of a 90's ZZR, I have enough rattles to scare me for a lifetime, apparently these things have always sounded like a bag of spanners, even back in the day. A notoriously noisy engine from the clutch, the chains, the bodywork in places.
Nice.
Side note, can you perhaps briefly explain why my bike struggles to start when it is warm? Still running carbs ofcourse, and she starts no problem from cold 1st time, everytime. On hot starts I have to give her a handful of revs, I have never encountered this with any other bike, is this a jetting problem?
Valves
I know this comment was 3 years ago but hopefully it helps ppl who are having hot start problems. My bike had the exact same problem and after changing out the carb diaphragms it started fine.
Thanks for all the info man! Really appreciate the lesson!
A bit of a late comment. First of all great video very nice explanation. My question is I have a drz400sm and when I disengage the clutch while in gear the bike make a humbling noise in every gear as soon as I engage the sound goes away the sound specifically gets louder when going faster therefore when having a lower gear also when I lift the bike (bike turned off) put 1 pull clutch and spin the rear wheel by hand it makes the same noise as well as the other gears.sorry for the huge comment just wanted to be specific to make it more clear. Thank you in regards 🙏
Very professional explanations, thanks mate!
Have a blackbird ( ladybird ) makes noises just like you explained, would describe the noise as a knackered bearing.
This suggests my 99 vfr800 is fine then^
I saw a good one the other day. Yz250, clutch noisy as heck but went away when pulled in. Turned out to be the idler gear for the kick start. It was removed for a bottom end job and the owner didn't put the washer in between the gear and the snap ring so it was banging around skipping off the big gear on the basket. No idea why it went away with the clutch pulled in tho.
I like this video,very instructive.
talking about clutch noise while wearing a yamaha shirt fucking classic.
My bike makes this rumbling noise every time I start it up, is that normal? It gets louder when I give it gas .
Oh no
ooooooooo sounds expensive to me
That depends on the bike
Declan Frazer Yeah, it seems like electric bikes never seem to have this problem.
Could you please check if this sounds normal? is the sound coming from clutch basket?
I recorded a video of my bike .. vimeo.com/454999147
Apprieciate any help!
My ninja 400 clutch whistles when I release it. I'm a new rider. Thanks for this video
1:29 Oh, that's the noise my bandit 1250 was making, only twice as loud. Made me very nervous in the beginning since my sv650 sounded the same with the clutch in and out.
My 1250 Bandit is the same.
Thanks! I have had two bikes now, and both of them did this kind of "slapping" or "yanking" motion on the chain, when ever I put them on the centerstand and let them free-roll in 1st gear. The chain should be up to spec according to the manual. Just wondering what the heck that is, and why? English is not my native language, so when googling for the answer, I can't seem to find an answer - probably because I'm not using the right terminology. Would you happen to know why?
Didn't answer what I came from but loved the content anyway and learnt something! Some funny stuff there too... Thinner when cold and thickens when warm... 🤣 +1 sub
I occasionally get a sound kind of like Abba in concert from my bike during cold weather starts, should I be considered?
Digger just be thankful that it doesn’t sound like Motörhead in concert. 🤘🏻
Probably the Waterloo pump
When the clutch is pulled it start to whistle when is hot.The whistle is so loud that covers the engine sound.Is doing in every gear ,even on neutral when the lever is pulled.Other then this is changing gears good .Happend to somebody?
Only time ive worried about clutch noise was when a Yamaha mechanic forgot to bend the basket washer up against the nut in my Yz426F and it came loose while I was on track 🤦♂️ 😂
Nicely explained. 👍
Missed a trick here Matt should have posted clip of Del doing insane demonstration of gears with his hands. Will let you off this time
I haven't had that sound before. Have a Z1000 -08. Drove home from work today and heard it start to sound after about 15 miles. It sounds mostly when I'm in neutral, a little less when I'm in gear and standing still. Since it came on all of a sudden, I assume that the clutch is worn.
Brother.... You have given me a little picture of the working of the clutch on your motorcycle.
Que1. My clutch is a bit Noisy ( Noisy-er ) than my other two bikes. Somehow I can flip into till the 4th Gear....but its Not getting into 5th.
2. What is the issue....???
Mate, love this guy’s videos.. wish I was a mechanical engineer or something..
Love the NT sign in the back ground. I lived there for 18 years.
Cheers Matt ⚙️👍
I love the explanation. I have a 2005 CBR 1000rr and I hear a clutch noise even if it hot it increases in speed. What could it be?
It depends if its normal or not
Is slight clunking (back lash noise) normal when you take up drive from 1st gear until around 3000rpm? Doesn’t happen all the time but does make a bit of a banging noise every now and again when going from a stand still below 3k in first🙏👍
Is it normal or there is some problem?
Yup... thanks. Was asking myself wtf is that noise
Since I almost always use my center stand when I'm done riding when I start it up on the next ride that's when I use that spin to inspect my tire for damage or nails.
Omg thanks so much this happen to me on my bike
Hey your back from your thanksgiving vacation! 👍
Oh you mean thankfuck vacation? Thank fuck I'm not American LOL
The Workshop come on Matt it’s a American tradition to over eat, drink and be thankful with our family. Because in less than a day you are trampling fellow Americans to get $10 off some junk that you don’t need and can barely afford. What a time to live in where going to the shops can be a life or death situation.
Sounds like envy to me!!! 😁
@@dirtygarageguy ...OFF topic, I call foul.Let us know how brexit goes..Cheers!
I'm glad you remembered us 40-50's who also know nothing :-)
On the FZ/MT09 it’s the bushings on the clutch basket …sure you can replace them but the noise comes back within a few thousand miles…It’s entirely normal.
Why clutch produce a slippery sound while picking up
Its just the friction discs and steels rattling a bit in their slots. They have to have play or you'll always have a sticking clutch. Then engines aren't a smooth output like a drill, there are constant accel and deccel forces at work. Dry clutches are louder because they don't have oil damping the motion.
I love it when people just make up bullshit.
"Its just the friction discs and steels rattling a bit in their slots."
So when the clutch is pulled in, and the clutch plates have more degrees of freedom it makes less noise? LOL Nice try, but no.
Dry clutches on the other hand do make noise because, like you said, there's no oil to dampen the noise. I covered this in the 'ry clutch' video. However, dry clutches make more noise period, with the clutch engaged or not.
With the gearbox open demo I did, you can hear the noise, and there's no clutch at all.
@@dirtygarageguy um then explain why the signature dry clutch rattle from a ducati goes away when you pull in the clutch? If the bearings and gears in a transmission are rattling like that it's time to open it up and start replacing bad parts. But if you look at the clutch basket the back and forth rattle of the plates wears dents into it over time, which can lead to the clutch sticking, and make the rattle noise louder because there is more movement.
So maybe before you call something made up bullshit, you should do better research before making a video.
@@dirtygarageguy p.s. it's also the reason a Vtwin is likely to make the noise louder than a triple or 4 cylinder. Thumpers tend to cover the noise more as it is a lower frequency.
"um then explain why the signature dry clutch rattle from a ducati goes away when you pull in the clutch?"
- ua-cam.com/video/UCyLcKdKaNI/v-deo.html
- That is a ringing. Not the same noise is it? If you compare a dry clutch to a wet clutch the stack height during engagement and disengagement is large for dry clutches, this is because there is nothing to help the plates slide again each other.
ua-cam.com/video/VZZVvnNMyV8/v-deo.html
4 mins 15 seconds into this video the guy spins the clutch boss without the plates in it and you can hear the noise, and a say 60rpm you can still hear it....
"If the bearings and gears in a transmission are rattling like that it's time to open it up and start replacing bad parts. "
- Who said bearings? The gears themselves are chattering... Because of this most car gears are helical - to reduce that gear noise.
"But if you look at the clutch basket the back and forth rattle of the plates wears dents into it over time,"
- That's not because of rattle - that's the plates moving back and forth...
"So maybe before you call something made up bullshit, you should do better research before making a video."
- Or maybe I just know what I'm talking about...
Mine makes a bang while engine braking. Is that bad
Thanks. very heplfull
mine is opposite where you press the clutch and it makes the sound. Any advisd to help me? 😅
Perhaps those geniuses over at Evans could make some magic oil-less oil to combat this?
I have an 05 R1. Think i might change the clutch plates this year. Idk they been doing good for almost 20 years i might hold off another 20. 😂
So I have a very weird problem and I'm in desperate need of help. So my crf250r 2020 makes this weird noise only when I decelerate and start engine breaking. It doesn't make a sound when idling and it goes away when I pull in the clutch immediately. The sound of it is the only video on My profile if you want to hear the sound at all. I would think this has to be a clutch problem or maybe a transmission problem. It sounds like a friction/whirring sound
My YD110 makes the same noise but louder. Turns out the rubber dampers for the clutch basket is worn. The play on the basket is really bad. I replaced it with new dampers, rivetted, then reassembled again. Noise is gone.
It's basically the same engine as a ybr 125 only it's a smaller 106cc lol
i can feel a vibration on the basket cover of my 2017 fz 10 only when i pull the lever in and when im trying to find first a lot of times it wants to clunk but go to neutral sometimes even clunk more than once nasty feeling cant find anything online about this either
so I own a gsx1100g 92 and it makes like a clunking noise and shakes the whole bike when i let the clutch out also when i go to give it beans it just revs and hardly dose owt and another thing it smells like something is burning if i leave it standing too long.
A bit of noise is the least of your problems when choosing to locate a abrasive particle shedding, filter stopping fiber flaking, hydrocarbon chain braking device submerged in your engines lifeblood.. :-)
My 05 Suzuki gsx600f katana makes a noise on neutral if i don't hold the clutch some said it need a clutch basket but the noise is not loud and my bike won't run fast it rides like it dont want to run lol
I see that, cu in the nt sticker in the background
Went on the interstate, proceeded to slip the clutch... went right home.
Clutch squeals pretty bad, imagine a drill with a fork attached spinning against a place anytime I let out clutch and add power.
It squeaks even if turned off and pushed forward in gear or in neutral
Hey mate I’ve got the same issue in my Daytona. Just wanted to know if I would feel a vibration on the clutch lever before disengaging?
How many miles?
@@dirtygarageguy its a little over 16000, dont see anything wrong with the bike. It runs pretty good. But just wanted to check
Was it always like this or something new?
@@dirtygarageguy didn’t have it before. I’ve had the bike for a couple of months
My xsr900 does this but even after warm. I always warm to 130 before I take off. Close to 6k miles. The sound really grinds my gears..pun intended
Hello! I learned alot from you!
I have a question, if you can reply me, it would be awesome!
Can a bad clutch cause engine to vibrate?
I'm getting vibrations at 100-120 km/h, and i got them in neutral too when i rev it at 1800-2000 rpms, vibrations appear more in the decelerating part!
I changed oil. spark plugs. air filter.
Thanks in advance!
On the topic of noob questions.
I’ve got an A2 restricted bike that uses “washers” with a small diameter hole placed in between the inlet rubbers of the carbs and the cylinder head to restrict the power.
Will this affect the AFR and require me to move down to smaller jets to get the bike to run smoothly?
What bike is it?
1994 Kawasaki ZXR400
Is it running rough?
A bit of a sticky idle, as in the revs hang for a while before dropping. This is predominantly when it’s cold.
idle? Don't fucking worry about the idle - ride the fucking thing
Just curios if you feel the gear "grinding" sound when you are pulling the clutch?
I don't understand...
@@dirtygarageguy what I meant is.... while in neutral, i can hear the noise when the clutch is engaged and no sound when fully disengaged. When I slowly release the clutch lever till the point where it normally start to bite, I can feel a gear clicking noise that seems to match how you describe it bouncing back and forth.
I can only feel it through the clutch lever when I pulled it back slightly while in neutral
This is on a 2013 Street triple 675 with 18000km
Hope it make sense
Hello
I know it’s an old video but maybe you have some suggestions about my situation. I have 2017 Triumph bonneville bobber. When I’m releasing the clutch lever at the moment when clutch is going to engage it’s making a knocking sound. When the bike is warm even when I’m pulling the clutch lever all the way, so the clutch is disengaged it may also make some knocking noises. Do you know what can be the the cause of this knocking sound?
Bike has 12100 miles on it with original clutch. I will change all plates and the springs also, but maybe you know I should be aware of something else? Thanks
Cracking video. Question: my rear wheel spins a lot faster than that in neutral on a paddock stand. I can still stop it with my hand: it's not pulling in neutral, but the rear spins up to a decent lick. It's a 2007 FZ6 S2 with 32k on it, it's had a new clutch cable not too long ago and an oil change. I've no idea if the friction plates have ever been changed. Problem or is it just like that on some bikes? Thanks in advance!
It's different for different bikes. The temp of the wheel bearings also plays a big part in it. In cold temps the grease in the bearings is thicker just like the oil. How clean the chain is also makes a difference, and at the time the chain was pretty filthy.
Make sure the cable is properly adjusted and it is pulling enough to properly disengage. It could be just very slightly dragging. OR that could just be how the bike is.
If you over tighten the cable slightly and try it, it will tell you. If it stays the same, it is the bike. If it stops, or reduces it, it could be an adjustment issue.
When you do adjust it for riding, go up a fucking steep hill, in too high a gear and give it some stick, to make sure it isn't adjusted overly tight and likely to slip.
Do you have a video of what 'a lot faster' is?
@@dirtygarageguy Nope, but I will have soon! Cheers for the replies so far.
If you are in neutral, clutch adjustment doesn't matter at all, because it is fully engaged anyway. As Matt said, if there isn't much friction counteracting the force that's coming from the transmission, it'll spin up quite quickly.
I have the same bike, but I never tried that. Adjust the clutch lever play to Yamaha spec stated in their workshop manual and you should be fine.
Bro my yzf r15m making noise at 4k rpm what can i di now?
Help please, I bought a brand new suzuki sv650, rode it for the break in 600 miles then changed over to synthetic oil, all oem suzuki stuff. Now I have a ticking noise while idling in neutral, but it completely goes away when i pull in the clutch lever. The noise wasn't there at all with conventional oil. Do I have to go back to conventional oil to get rid of it? Or maybe try semi synthetic?
No, you'll be fine.
ua-cam.com/video/CP289i_4etQ/v-deo.html
Can a little to much oil make it clink a little.
I dunno if it’s my clutch I just know my bike hasn’t done it before but when I’m cruising for a lil on my 2021 yz125x it sounds like a slipping brake pad like a scraping sound it’ll go away and come back sometimes. I hadn’t ridden in while and it wasn’t doing that last time I rode it but today it was freaking me out. I still see it as a brand new bike since I got it last October so I don’t understand what it could be.
Front disc skipping the pad. Ride it more it'll go away. A good way to tell is when you heat it slightly pull the brake and see if it goes
@@dirtygarageguy I’ll check next time I ride. Thank you much.
On my tiger 1050 2008.
Clutch disengaged no sound.
Whilst riding it seems to rattle knock so much I can feel it through the bars.
Not whilst under load.. But terribly when on half throttle or no throttle .
Question. Which way do you turn the anti rattle gear which meshes with the primary gear on the clutch basket. Think it's been put in mesh without loading the gear springs vfr1200f. Cheers
My gsxr k8 dose the exact same thing thanks for the price of mined
I got into a crash and its when i release the throttle it makes that gear noise that you showed but not when i pull in the clutch
Bro my 2 stroke clutch drags at high rpm even after changing clutch disk,plates and clutch boss ..any idea ?
Drags?
ducati dry clutches: am i joke to you?
helpful thanks
Does the yz450f 2021 does this to and if it does is it normal ?
Thank you for The teaching. Motorcycle Learning is great and you did well. Thx
My 1997 CBR900RR has a real rumble with the clutch out, pulling the clutch lever just slightly silences it, I don’t think that the clutch is disengaging at all at this point, I’m literally just starting to pull the lever and the rumble stops, the clutch lifter has just started to act on the pressure plate pin, I doubt the cable has moved more than a couple of mm, any ideas what’s causing the rumble?, cheers Mark
It's normal, the reason why it's changed is because of free play and the ambient temperature. The cable shrinks as it gets colder amd longer as it gets warmer.
Thanks for the quick reply but I think my post was confusing, I’ll try to be clearer, the clutch rumble’s on tick over, engine hot or cold, ambient temperature hot or cold, it’s very noticeable, if I apply light pressure to the clutch lever taking up the free play in the cable so that the clutch lifter mechanism contacts the thrust plate pin and starts to pull on it just a fraction the noise goes, but I’m only moving the cable slightly, the arm on the clutch lifter is only moving a couple of mm forward at the point that the noise stops, whereas to disengage the clutch it moves forward approx 15mm so I’m sure the clutch isn’t disengaged when the noise is stopping, when I release the clutch lever the rumble is immediately there again.
In that case you have a worn clutch basket. The plates are chattering.
Cheers, yes it could well be that 👍
Hayabusa 2005 cold start 5 mins into ride sound like something rattling going round I’m thinking clutch bolts are rattling
My gen 3 haya have same issue some 1 help ?