How good can we make our Tenere 700 Off Road? | The T7 Project EP
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I think the opening lines of this title sum the video up pretty well. I want to see the potential of the T7 off-road. Can I make it good enough and get comfortable enough to ride real Enduro terrain on it? Can it do single track, massive hill climbs and boulder river beds without needing the skill of a world class trials rider?
So that's were setting out to do. To tell the full story of a a month of testing, building, filming and riding to get the T7 as close to perfect as we can.
We'll add in a full test of the T7 Suspension, the T7 exhaust system and improve the set-up of the bike constantly to make it better.
Hopefully you enjoyed this video and it's exciting! - Авто та транспорт
I have done similar mods but being Australia with it’s dusty conditions off road that sprint filter would be clogged in one ride. Australian bikes come fitted with a uni filter foam filter and I added a uni filter pre filter to the snorkel. The result has been great with the main filter never needing to be cleaned in 10000km of travel. I have since switched to a funnel web filter system and initial impressions are really good with the pre filter being really easy to remove and clean which wasn’t the case with the uni filter.
Interesting. I am confused how it can work without foam and oil but they claim it will. Gonna do a pull test at the end.
@@BrakeMagazine If not already done, trim the air filter snorkel (12-14mm) so it isn't so close/almost touching the bottom of the air filter box, for better air flow/dispersion into the air filter. You can also make your own pre-filter with an old foam filter and a re-usable cable tie.
@@magilla2567 You just solved one of the concerns I had about doing a "snorkel removal" on my bike (XSR700, but it's got the same weird setup) and water getting sucked in. Didn't even think about trimming it on the bottom to keep the elbow before. Thanks!!
@@johnmetcalfe2866 👍
Aren’t Uni filters technically a pre-filter? That’s how I use the socks 🧦
I am absolutely stoked on this series. I own a T7 myself so I'm very much looking forward to seeing what you do with it and the different price points/performance gains possible. Just got in from the garage fitting a rally raid spring to the shock :D
I really appreciate your quality content. You're one of the best riders and presenters on UA-cam! I've been eyeballling a few of these same upgrades, so I'm really looking forward to the rest of the series.
Nice! Thanks for the kind words. What upgrades are you interested in?
@Brake Magazine One bit I found interesting was the dual control brake lever. It seems like a potentially clever and efficient ergonomic trick, but I can also imagine it turning out to be a disappointment or trade-off or liability, so I look forward to hearing about your experience. The rest of the upgrades look so good and the graphics especially add a few horsepower 👍 Edit: That air filter looks promising, too. I ordered but haven't received in the mail yet the frame protectors, lithium battery, Barkbusters, lower crash bars, and skid plate.
I'm from the the Pacific Northwest in the US and LOVE the graphics! I ride an older KTM 950 ADV and thinking of the T7 as my next ride. this is definitely the direction i want to go. thanks for the work!!!
I ride wa
State tall riders love T7 alot mods. Taller seat from yamaha. Big pegs, trackanator tires. Black widow pipes , ect. But after riding and racing 15yrs
It was pretty good from dealer
The way you put the video together just feels good.
A great series and very well put together. I cannot wait for the next episode. Currently saving up for your graphic kit which looks amazing!
👍.. New Graphic will add good good, better more for refresh..
Great idea for a series theme, look forward to seeing how you get on with it! If you ever fancy a trip up to the lakes we'll happily show you around 😁
Cheers Tom!
Really interesting approach. Very good video quality. Keep up the good work!
Thanks Sag!
Can't wait for the next episode, really liked this.
This is Awesome! Can not wait for the next episode!
Looking forward to seeing how this project works!
Looking forward to following this. 👍
Thanks Seth!
Nice job on the video. Looking forward to future ones
Bike looks awesome! Love the graphics.
So good, this is what a lot of tenere owners whaiting for. Looking forward to see the tests of the products.
Simply a gr8 review and I love each and every one of your upgrades well done cheers Guys nice build for sure.
Beautiful bike my friend! I like every single inch of it! You did a really good job!
Great stuff. Mine should be arriving in this month and then the build begins! We are riding the Wyoming BDR in July and I want my T7 ready long before!
Yay! Can't wait, love your work
Looking forward to watching this build. 👍
Really informative video again thanks for sharing Llel :) gotta be said Brake magazine has swiftly become one of my 3 fav channels on youtube.
Thanks! Really appreciate that 🙌 Glad you're finding them useful!
Nicely done. Will be looking forward to the upcoming vids.
Thanks!
great series! subbed
Apart from wot you did a standard T7 with panniers is my dream bike, so this was a joy to watch. 👍
I love the graphics! Great design.
Have a good start on mine. Waiting on my Ohlins front and rear suspension. Set up for me. Many other parts, more than the cost of the bike. Excel wheels, Hahn hubs, Inside frame high exhaust from HP Corse, Rally raid, Off-The-Road, Revzilla, Rocky Mtn ATV, Seat Concepts, AltRider, Tusk, Ohlins, just some of the suppliers. My machine, made for me.
Bumped into you in Blanford Forum last September on the Tenere. Great to see this series. It’s a great bike👍
I remember! I had just been to bakery 🤣
Great video. I'm following this project.
Thanks Bruno!
Great Video, thx!
Very informative and good presentation style.
Thank you Ashley!
Awesome as always - About to start a build on my Africa Twin. Hoping to drop 10kg from up high, and pipe and jet for better fueling and another 5hp - finally get off my lazy bum and dial in the suspension - considering another bar option somewhere between my YZ-high bars and the stock bars, maybe a new graphics kit - or maybe straight silver, with no graphics.
Looking forward to the next episodes. I tossed just about the whole parts catalogue at my T7.
Dangerous 🤣
From the mods to the livery, it's like my dream bike
😲That Tenere is looking sexier than ever, it's without a doubt the most beautiful I've seen so far and for sure the best one I will ever see! Loved the graphics you designed, the designs and the colors you've chosen are perfect, it added so much coolness to the already cool looking adventure bike! All the best to you and your journey here in our lovely P🔆rtugaL and after!👍🏻🙋🏻♂️
Tenere looks great and like your chanell!!!! Very nice!
Sick!! 🙌
Enjoyed that, great idea!
Thanks Kalle!
Looks good!
Love the graphics. I've done a lot of similar stuff here, I have to say that the extended clutch arm was 100% the best modification I made.
It suprised me too 😁
I have to second this, easily the best mod that I did to mine as well.
@@JohannesDalen Hi, how did it improve riding? Easier to pull, less heavy or just a feeling? Thanks.
@@LuckyLuke_81 It lightens the pull a lot, but it also widens the friction zone, so the clutch engagement isn’t as abrupt.
Love this! I have one and looking forward to the inspiration
Excited to show it!
Same!
Same again! :-)
Looks like you've chosen similar products to my T7. Can't wait to see future episodes. Hopefully you are doing a full Yoshi exhaust and closed cartridge forks.
😂😂 Well...
Very cool series
4:33 i think you are right on the money with believing it is a good starting point. Most riders are not capable of pushing the bike beyond its limits as is. nor are they looking to go that extreme. most just want a nice comfy setup with a good seating position and good handling. i am so curious on how you are going to improve your T7.
the best 3 mods i have done is fit the HEED bunker crash bar and especially the rear crash bars love those! Never saw rear bars before, for the t7. I wonder if an exhaust tuck would be possible with those rear bars. i think it might just be a perfect combo, protection and lift grips... The second is the puig adjustable windscreen, too expensive for what you get , but adjustable during drive. extra low and extra high screen on the fly. works great. the last is a single finger clutch with adjustable clutch lever because my winter gloves need the extra space between my barkusters and clutch handle. thick boys haha
looking forward on what you are going to do with yours!! good luck and have fun!!!
Awesome channel 😎👍
Nice set up. Tenere 700 is my ideal bike on paper and you have improved it. But as a not tall rider (176cm) I have tried this bike and I don't feel comfortable. Will wait a while for more low seat options.
Looking forward to your mods and ideas on the machine.
graphics look awesome, nice job.
Great vid. I did the altrider Clutch extension arm and ASV levers. Wow what a transformation when going slow and technical compared to stock. 10/10 would do again.
What actually changes with the clutch extension arm?
@Kattrap Thanks. Further adjustments needed?
nice project
Have not seen anything yet that I would do to my own t7 as have already done most of the mods, but using different brands. Looking forward to the next episodes
Interesting. What did you use?
@@BrakeMagazine outback Mototrek crash bars, acd bash plate, outback Mototrek asymmetrical pannier frames, cheap levers that fold, camel adv clutch arm. Cool covers seat cover, etc etc. lowered 20 mm, new rally raid spring (85nm). Black widow exhaust.
I would save the 75 quid and cut the stock windscreen to suit. I am glad you pointed out the "mud" guard removal resulted in mud going up your back. I have always wondered why riders remove this. Any dirt bike I have ever owned has a nice long stretched out plastic fender, to stop the mud. I love the Tenere, I have one, along with a DRZE, and the two don't compare, in my view, as dirt bikes. The antiquated 20 year old DRZE still outperforms my T7 in the "dirt". Even the suspension is superior, ground clearance, all those things.......weight..... Anyhow, a new era in bikes I am all for, but the modification of bike can only go so far, in my view, and it comes down to design from the factory. With a bottomless bank account, and having lots time and a workshop helps, but if its dirt you want to ride, it would be better to just go out and buy a "dirt bike". The CRF 450 is the best example these days in my view, its a shame that Yamaha and WR450 have not morphed into a full street legal "dirt bike", from the factory. The weight, ground clearance, and "uncrashability" of the T7 are problems for me going forward....as a dirt bike. Paul Torres, a highly paid, world class champion athlete, from the world of trials, undoubtedly earned his pay promoting this bike, and seems to have convinced many a buyer what is possible, but as you tube has proven, many a rider, can not, and will not, attain in reality, modified or not. I am waiting for a modification that involves removing entirely the whole front end, and attaching a little enduro headlight, and some radiator wings etc, like a true dirtbike. All this crash bar this, fender shortening kit that, does nothing at all to improve the bike. A T7 naked/enduro, concept. The true give away for me with the T7 was the absent lower rear sprocket chain guide.....optional......This is not a dirt bike.....from the factory by any stretch of the imagination.....I am making my bike.....a street/gravel road specific version.....and I will keep riding my DRZE in the woods.
Perfect timing, just bought a T7. My first 3 mods are going to be a decal kit, GRMoto exhaust (They are local to me in Suffolk), and Motoz Rallz tyres. Defo gonna change the shock spring and fork internals, probably with Rally Raid ones. As an ex motocrosser it's what I love about the T7, so easy to mod and bling up - when did you ever see anyone on a blinged up Tiger? And they sound so good, even with the stock exhaust. Thanks for the vid Llel, can't wait for the next one! Regards, Mike
No problem! I've never heard of GR Moto!
@@BrakeMagazine No I found them on eBay, turns out they are a company in Diss. The exhaust is quite vulnerable, don't wanna keep trashing an expensive aftermarket can!
@@piotrkruk2634 ive had no problems at all thus far
Those graphics really compliment the bike ,great design.
Thank Terry!
T7 with a high front fender is beautiful!
Enjoyed watching and looking forward to where you go with the T7, considering maybe changing up from my 690 to an Adventure Bike for more Euro riding
Interesting to see you here Peter! I’m doing some UA-cam research for my next bike 😬
@@JohannesDalen You thinking about going for another T7. I think they are still a great value motorcycle, although they are like your Husky 701 = you have to throw money at them to get them how you want them , I know that's the case with my 690. Going on what you were saying in your video I thought maybe you'd stay with the Husky brand and think about the 901?
I’m looking at many different bikes, but they are all very expensive except the T7. Paying almost 7-8000£ more for the big adventure bikes will get me a stronger engine (nice for two up) and lots of electronics, and I’m not sure the electronics are worth it.
The 901 is an interesting bike but I would have liked for it to have been on the marked for a few more years first, even though it’s almost a white 890.
Great vid, I also have had to change some of the same Items to make it a more suitable off-road machine. Put a Scott's steering stabilizer on with lowered bars. Not everyones cup of tea, I removed the ABS system and one of the calipers on the front, stainless brake lines, Galfer rotor and pads lost 2+Kg's off the front and braking is still great for Offroad IMO better touch and progressive, removed all extra ABS lines and box another 2kg removed. Riding in the southwest of US it's great to just blow off road and hit the dirt without stopping and when turning off the bike it's ready to rip with no ABS. Also went with a 2.5" rear rim with rim locks front and rear able to run the rear at 12-15psi and front at 15-20psi.....GAME CHANGER! Have over 12,000 K 70 % AZ, UT, CO dirt mix of some technical riding I usually do on my 500 KTM, it is an amazing machine, running rear 140 Motoz Tractionator Adventure tire (slightly softer sidewall than other Tractionator tires) and the Pirelli Scorpion Rally front knobby, so far perfection for what and how I ride.
please explain the 2.5" rim a bit more. Thx
@@josephfelice601 Joseph, that I have knowledge of there are no 4" or 3" rim locks on the market, there are 2.5" rim locks. And as you know a rim lock is crucial for lower tire pressures for advanced off road riding. The other plus is that the rim is better protected from rock damage. I am running a 140 rear which I would do if I was still running the 4" rim availability and price of 140's compared to 150's no brainer.
It really looks so much better with the graphics
Looks great.
You can make yours look the same 😊
Maybe One will become available at literally any stealership within 10 hours of me between now and the next 20 years. One of the coolest yet unobtainable bikes made to date.
Great series, bike looks stunning, motoz rallz tires are beast
Having ridden both, back to back the Metzeler is better on the T7. Its just got a short lifespan.
According my experience the main issues in offroad with this bike are: overheating ( frustrating at low speed in single track) and swing arm displacement, no aftermarket shocks will fix it, is just how the swingarm relate with frame and pinion position.
Since i'm not a pro rider and i can't flat out all the time, It drives me crazy having no grip at all on the rear wheel, it seems to seat on a a cow with a chily pepper in its butt.
However is a great bike.
I Iove that graphics kit!!!
Thanks!
As a person who has been nailed in the face shield by his T7's windscreen, I agree with your choice on the smaller one.
I smashed the front in on a nice adventure bike helmet that way. I blamed the suspension rather than chasing people on enduro bikes across a moor!
🤣🤣 Mike, I'll give you my screen for Christmas 🤣
@@BrakeMagazine 💥
Interesting build.
dead on my color ...awesome build ..!!!
I love the bike. It looks like a giant WR250R
🙏❤️ Love from Scotland ❤️🙏
Very nice 👌
I'm just starting out. Road dirt bikes a little as a kid I usually do pretty good on anything with an engine.
I have to drive about 100-180 miles to get anywhere interesting for off-roading where I live now. Looking at a new cb500x, start with tires but mod it for a little more offroad capability, if I can find one or if I can convince myself to spend the money up front on a tenere 700. I'd like to go on some moto camping trips every year over the next decade. Not quite confident enough to jump all the way to an Africa Twin.
I think you get what you pay for and in my humble opinion $10K for the T7 is a good price. Here is how I am going to improve the bike. I ride it as is and spend the money on what the bike was made for, exploring stuff, traveling and having a great time. The vast majority will never ride the stock bike to its full potential, cheers and safe riding
Great video and very interesting as I'm trying to get my t7 set up for more extreme lanes instead of turning around! Look forward to the next one! 👍 (my wallets not though!)
Making my way through your brilliant videos to help improve my riding, Great to see real life UK riding. Have to make a trip to Wales! 👍
BIG NEWS coming for the Tenere! Keep an eye out (June-ish) for dakar style gas tank that significantly lowers the center of gravity.
Oh yeah? Different from the Rally version?
@@BrakeMagazine 12 gal, so similar but bigger. Safari tanks in Australia just finished testing
I am looking forward to see what improvement you did in suspension settings. I think for all the t7 "dirt oriented" owners is the most important issue. For me the front forks are most problematic.
I played a lot with the stock suspension it's not much happens when you change the settings. The problems are a bit endemic.
Great video like always! In your personal opinion, do you think bar risers are needed for somebody who is 6 foot (183cm) 32 inch legs? I have lower back disc problems and usually standing up gives me a lot of pain within 20 minutes. (last bike was 2010 R1200GS with no risers) I know your dads' opinion about risers haha, but I wonder how you felt on the T7? And was it difficult to get access to the handlebar clamps so that you could rotate them? Thanks!
Llel I absolutely love those wildernis graphics you put on your bikes. Any chance you will make them for the 2012-2018 gen KTM 690? I'd love a black/grey tint version of it, perhaps with some small orange details? ;-P I'd be the first to get a kit. To be honest though, lots of those bikes still around so might be worth looking into!
I suggest a t7 rally swingarm protector. If the exhaust is bent in a case of falling to the right side you avoid destroying the swingarm while riding home and having the exhaust rub on it.
Ditch the OEM exhaust altogether as it could bend or even break the subframe, totaling a perfectly good bike. Getting a tucked in one is the best move for anybody.planning to travel far.
hey amazing and very informative video. wud definetly help me mode up my new tenere. cud you helpnme with the model number of the acerbis skid plate you fitted with the link protector
We need next episode! 😊
It's done and going on Patreon 1st. I have computer issues atm 😭
the beauty of things, is to make it your own.
It really is.
Bike looks great, the bolt-ons all seem very sensible. Looking forward to the more performance oriented upgrades and a luggage solution. I saw all the individual costs of the parts, did I miss the total costs so far screen?
I didn't do a total costs screen 🙂
Riding my T7 all stock. (Just handguards are replaced) If you have troubles during the lifetime of a bike...it mostly comes from the modifications. But this is only my opinion after riding the last 35 years.
Fantastic mods done. It looks brilliant. what would be the total cost of modifications. Will you do if someone asked for the changes?
One more question, I'm in US which adventure bike would you recommend for me? I would like to ride 60% asphalt 40% off-road (gravel, hills, backroad with slush and challenging trails) My shortlist as follows KTM 890 R, Aprillia Tourag 660, Husqvarna Norden 901 (but not sure), Suzuki V-strom 650 XT (but concern about Front shock absorber, and ground clearance and heavy) Tiger 900 Rally, so i am not sure which one should i go ? Please help.
Looking forward to seeing the next episodes. I'm portuguese, and i'm curious to know, why Portugal ?
If you've ever ridden in the Uk, you'd know!
:)
I quite like to see you on the Honda ADV scooter! It would be a hoot! With a can on they sound just like a 790.Give us a laugh.
Llel, will you have a chance to test the Tuareg 660? I recently picked one up and Im really happy with it. Its handles quite well on and off road and for $1k US more than the Tenere, I believe it has many advantages over it. Definitely worth it.
Is that an iPhone you’re using and, if so, which mount are you using to avoid vibration issues with the camera image stabiliser?
I really like the graphics you design for your bike, i want to check how would it look in matte, also blue
You can see a 3D render on the website. Also, the Matte looks incredible.
Would be intresting what you will do with suspension. i hated stock suspension as it was bottoming out and behave like a pogo stick, fitted full K-tech kit and rely on one of the suspension specialists advice in regards to spring hardness... now seems to be too hard to be honest, as i lost my confidece offroad on such stiff bike, specialy in wet 😞 Tarmac becomes MUCH less comfortable as well. I think i need to change springs somwhere between stock and suggested for my weigt, as stock is to soft and suggested by spring manufacturers to stiff... didn't have these sort of problems with Husky 701 stock WP suspension 😕
Was expecting to hear "specifically" one by one how each of the ergo changes and mods felt...i.e. brake pedal, bar rotation, clutch feel, seat etc.. Coming in next vid ? Do greatly enjoy your vid's Mr. P.
That will come. I mostly will talk about those once I've gone through all the processes in the final episode :)
How do you feel with the one clutch finger system? Helps to control the clutch release? I need more control
Hi. Congrats. Hope to see your next mods. Where in Portugal?
Algarve
@@BrakeMagazine Great bet. It has a lot of terrain and landscapes to explore down there. Are you considering coming up to the north of the country?
The Mt09 forum has a long thread on tweaking the rotational position of the accelerator position sensor, which apparently cures its snatchy throttle. Would a similar mod work on the CP2engine? ie Slight rotation of the throttle position sensor (cable throttle)
Probably. I've done a similar one on my previous project bike.
That Alt Rider clutch extension....what are your thoughts on that?!
Salisbury Plain is in Wiltshire.
Love the bike and thought that’s gone into it. One thing, though, is the exhaust which is the usual ADV bike afterthought. Did you consider one of the neater narrower options which protect the swingarm and rear subframe? I read a lot about those issues. Or maybe they’re not a problem. It always seems a shame to me that luggage is compromised by vast protruding silencers (other than Ducati).
I did not sorry. We are changing the exhaust to see what it does for the bike though.
SC project has one which sits higher and out of the way of the swingarm. Very simple but someone had to do it. Check it out!
Hey man. On the fence about the t7 and Tuareg. I haven’t had a go on the Aprillia but t7 feels really natural and easy based on a road test experience, what’s not to like kinda thing. Bike looks and feels more like a dirt bike and the Aprillia glitzy by comparison. I guess from seat of pants t7 could use just a little more shove off the bottom otherwise didn’t understand all the noise about it being top heavy, felt balanced to me.
The Aprillia is a better bike. Review just finished being filmed.
When is the Yamaha World Raid press event/release? Really looking forward to the Brake Magazine insight into this Tenere variant.
Tuesday.
I have seen on the final pics that the forks have Rally Raid stickers meaning Tractive cartridges. Every single social media influencer/channel has been using this setup (meaning a lot of marketing and perhaps sponsoring) and would have been nice to have opinions on other suspension setups (Ohlins, Andreani, Race tech etc..). This opinion comes from a T7 owner with Tractive closed cartridge system that has been revalved for 3 or 4 times until I got the desired setup. The promoted big 35mm pistons are actually a downside since only one fork does compression and the other rebound.
We tried to get Ohlins and couldn't. We've got a comparison review against another set but I can see your point.
We don't have any sponsorship from Rally Raid or Tractive btw.
I’m sure I’ve seen this bike with a tail tidy that covers rear linkage am I just imagining or have I swapped
Could you please let us know what the app you are using for off road navigation is?