PIXEL BURN - A King, Konquered: The Fall of Billy Mitchell

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  • Опубліковано 29 кві 2018
  • In this special episode of Pixel Burn I look at how the former Donkey Kong & PacMan world record holder Billy Mitchell wound up losing it all, in a sordid tale of emulation, dodgy tapes and circuit board shenanigans.
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    Intro theme is "Big Rock" by the talented Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
    "King of Kong: A Fistful of Quarters" is available to rent, for about $2 to $4, on places like iTunes, Google Play, Amazon and UA-cam.
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  • @RoyalJester17
    @RoyalJester17 6 років тому +1275

    i'm just happy Wiebe was recognized as the 1st guy to get 1M points.
    he actually seems like a decent guy

    • @jasoncarswell7458
      @jasoncarswell7458 5 років тому +129

      Wiebe's also a strange fellow (bless his autistic heart) but he comes off as genuine and well-liked. Given that the rest of his personality is pretty well-developed and admirable, he comes off as a dedicated fanboy rather than a nutter.
      Billy, by comparison (who is also autistic) looks, smells, talks and acts like a celebrity coke dealer circa 1982. He has the same hyper-intense autistic focus on speedrunning in ancient videogames as Wiebe does, but he's got absolutely no moral compass and his personality is like a walking caricature of something he saw on a TV cop show back in the 80s. Complete with the full black ensemble and the shitty sneer on his face.
      "Ha ha, weakling Wiebe! You've failed to foil my brilliant plans yet again! Now it is I who wear the title of KING OF KONG!"

    • @kryptomatic2632
      @kryptomatic2632 5 років тому +32

      @@wce05308 He has an ability to detect autism with his nose. Very useful in comment sections.

    • @ropete33
      @ropete33 5 років тому +13

      And he did it live and in person several times. He didn't hide away and do it all off camera.

    • @olivermarijuanajones5041
      @olivermarijuanajones5041 5 років тому +13

      Yeah, as opposed to that slick mulleted ass clown Billy Mitchell, dude is like the slimest aspects of the 1980s, marinated in South Florida and compounded with intrest...

    • @Whiteshell204
      @Whiteshell204 5 років тому +8

      yep after the king of kong documentary..I dislike billy

  • @RiderRohans
    @RiderRohans 3 роки тому +209

    "I guess when you have enough money you can create whatever you want." made my day.

    • @STARZ_KABOOM
      @STARZ_KABOOM 3 роки тому +4

      and notice billy walks away and says nothing and notice how he never showed up to face steve... coward fraud liar

    • @HappyMealBieber
      @HappyMealBieber 3 роки тому +2

      mitchel is a scum bag

    • @YozorAnimee
      @YozorAnimee 3 роки тому +4

      Needs to be put in a quote book

    • @chrisrose323
      @chrisrose323 2 роки тому +1

      Does he drink beer? I want to buy that guy a beer. He should have a bro beer. Americas! Make it happen! I cannot do it from here.

    • @curtiswilson4737
      @curtiswilson4737 2 роки тому +2

      That guy called him out, and he was sweating bullets, that's why he walked away, it was called, guilt.

  • @DaFunyunFrog
    @DaFunyunFrog 8 місяців тому +16

    It’s crazy coming back to this video now, 5 years on, with multiple pending lawsuits, and seeing how utterly insane this whole situation has turned out to be.

  • @concretecaliban
    @concretecaliban 10 місяців тому +22

    Billy Mitchell is like a real life Ben Stiller movie antagonist.

    • @KneppaH
      @KneppaH 5 місяців тому

      He's like uncle Rico from Napoleon Dynamite. But worse.

  • @mrf19741
    @mrf19741 5 років тому +749

    I'm sorry, I have absolutely no sympathy whatsoever for Billy Mitchell. I watched The King Of Kong and the smug, condescending, arrogant attitude he showed in the film and the way he treated Steve Wiebe just showed what a complete and utter Jackhole he is. Nice to see that karma finally caught up with him.

    • @valmarsiglia
      @valmarsiglia 5 років тому +2

      @roxoto The King of Kong was a documentary: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_King_of_Kong

    • @BrunodeSouzaLino
      @BrunodeSouzaLino 4 роки тому +16

      @Mary McManus Then watch The King of Con, which is the documentary of the opposite disposition.

    • @mrf19741
      @mrf19741 4 роки тому +1

      @Qtri Nity LOL!

    • @percipleflavius8171
      @percipleflavius8171 4 роки тому +1

      That's porked up man!

    • @michaelstricklett7130
      @michaelstricklett7130 4 роки тому +3

      When it came out Billy supported TG how could anyone trust the scoreboards?

  • @paulkeleher1522
    @paulkeleher1522 6 років тому +316

    If anyone's interested, there's a potential Donkey Kong kill screen coming up.

    • @simonbrown285
      @simonbrown285 5 років тому +1

      Has it happened?

    • @jamesdjl4359
      @jamesdjl4359 5 років тому +14

      Haha, that guy would've really gotten under my skin. Quintessential and proverbial nails on a chalkboard. I got a good laugh out of this comment though.

    • @TheLexiconDevils
      @TheLexiconDevils 4 роки тому +15

      That dickpuffer will be a senior citizen virgin

    • @lazykirby57
      @lazykirby57 4 роки тому +5

      @@TheLexiconDevils okay seriously. Why is being a virgin such a bad thing? Asexual people exist you know!

    • @JSchaffer214
      @JSchaffer214 4 роки тому +6

      @@lazykirby57 Then someone who is asexual doesn't give a damn enough about it to leave a comment defending themselves. They just are who they are. The entire reason someone is asexual is because they don't care about sexual relationships.
      So, basically what I'm saying is.....YOU'RE A VIRGIN! 🤣

  • @talic-os5899
    @talic-os5899 Рік тому +17

    Peter Dinklage was such a great choice to play this guy in Pixels

  • @JimCornetteIsMyDad
    @JimCornetteIsMyDad 6 років тому +166

    If Mitchell was a nerd who had absolutely nothing in his life going for him, except these records, I would feel somewhat pity for him. But the guy owns a chain of restaurants, wing sauces and has a wife with gigantic jugs. Let it go Billy. It's over.

    • @SuperKratosgamer
      @SuperKratosgamer 5 років тому +9

      @Starscream91 All of his records are gone.

    • @jasonvoorhees5964
      @jasonvoorhees5964 5 років тому +13

      His big jugged wife only married him for his money she has to drink alot to stomach letting that creep touch her.

    • @drummerkidkill
      @drummerkidkill 5 років тому +8

      Starscream91 He shouldn’t be recognized for it. I don’t care if he did really do it. He’s a phony.

    • @karlepaul6632
      @karlepaul6632 4 роки тому +9

      #LoveTheJuggs 😉👍🏻

    • @RetroGamesMas
      @RetroGamesMas 3 роки тому

      DONT WORRY...EVEN PACMAN CREATOR WANNA SEE BILLY DOING IT ON LIVE IN FRONT OF NEAR ALL THE CREATORS..AND HE SHOW THEM HOW HE DOES IT...THATS WHY HE IS THE KING OF PACMAN...AND HE DOES AGAIN THE WORLD RECORD DONKEY KONG..JUST TO SHUT THE FUCK UP OF THOSE NERDS WHO CALL HIM CHEAT..AND HE WAS JUST ON LIVE IN THE ARCADE DISTRICT.

  • @Mathmachine
    @Mathmachine 6 років тому +1377

    Moral of the story: never cheat against nerds. They will find the most minute details that even P.I.s wouldn't think of.

    • @rexapis2125
      @rexapis2125 6 років тому +43

      Mathmachine
      Speedrunners often do things frame perfect, so why not analyse the frames in a suspected cheater's run..

    • @brutusjudas5842
      @brutusjudas5842 6 років тому +51

      True story. Never underestimate the nerds.

    • @maxim377
      @maxim377 6 років тому +69

      Autism is too powerful, you can't fight against it when it concentrates like this.

    • @rexapis2125
      @rexapis2125 6 років тому +15

      Dede
      You idiot, the vast majority of people investigating this are not autistic

    • @rexapis2125
      @rexapis2125 6 років тому +21

      Dede
      You assclown, if that was supposed to be a joke, don't give up your day job, LoL

  • @ReinEngel
    @ReinEngel 3 роки тому +43

    Remember that scene in King of Kong when he goes into a store and rearranges hot sauce to give himself more room on the shelf? That showed what type of person he was at his core... an egotistical piece of shit who would do anything, major or minor, to help himself and hurt others.

    • @jamesm3471
      @jamesm3471 Рік тому

      Lalo, just forget about Silly Billy & listen to me carefully: the Chicken-man has hidden a loaded gun down in his meth hole. He’s gonna act like a whimp, then shutoff all the lights & shoot you in the throat! At least tell someone besides grandpa thats you’re still alive first!

    • @illustrate303
      @illustrate303 9 місяців тому +1

      Exactly I noticed that too

  • @zimfan101
    @zimfan101 4 роки тому +117

    Billy was NOT the first to reach the PAC Man kill screen. He was, at best, the third but Twin Galaxies completely ignored the first two a gave Billy the credit.

    • @totallynotzokix11_mc21
      @totallynotzokix11_mc21 4 роки тому +28

      He also took a 30 minute break inbetween, which isn't allowed

    • @F40PH-2CAT
      @F40PH-2CAT 10 місяців тому +5

      Yep that record is rubbish as well. This is why one fraud has to exclude ALL scores.

    • @medes5597
      @medes5597 9 місяців тому +3

      TG actually never claimed Billy was first to reach the kill screen. TGs own record books from the 80s and 90s mention the kill screen and how it can't be passed. Hell the "how to beat pacman" book from 1982 has a whole section on the kill screen. Billy doesn't even understand why it happens - he says it's because the game runs out of memory to draw the last board, but that's not true. It's because it tries to draw fruit everywhere on the right side of the board.
      However the alleged perfect pacman game, yeah he was at least 3rd. In fact TG changed the rules so Billy could argue he was the only person to do it specifically that way - prior to Billy, you had to do all pacman score attempts on default settings h 3 lives + 1 bonus. However Billy's perfect was on 5 + 1 settings, so he could get the highest possible score with the regenerating dots.

    • @medes5597
      @medes5597 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@totallynotzokix11_mc21yeah but so did both the previous perfects. Bill Bastable used the dip switches to pause the game, and Randy Tufts parked overnight, possibly for most of the next day. And at the time, for all three, TG guidelines allowed parking if the game could be done so with player functions - so parking pacman overnight after the 4th and final scramble was allowed under pre 2001 rules.

    • @kenon6968
      @kenon6968 5 місяців тому

      It is really weird how there seemed to be a concerted effort to write Bill Bastabille out of the picture in those cabalish early days of TG

  • @wakeupFFS2012
    @wakeupFFS2012 6 років тому +47

    If someone looks like the seediest second-hand car salesman you've ever met then the chances are....

  • @Taylor_Lindise
    @Taylor_Lindise 6 років тому +275

    So I watched King of Kong as a kid and one huge thing that confused me was with the lawyer guy talking about how there needs to be ‘rules to know who the campion is’ in regards to whether that one guys mailed in score was legal or not. It was deemed not legal because a ref wasn’t there to view it. But then Billy Mitchel is able to show his video and it is allowed to be a record? Even as a fucking impudent child this was weird to me. Now even I feel vindicated.

    • @MadTheDJ
      @MadTheDJ 5 років тому +43

      Saw KoK as an adult and was like, "They allowed this tape with no authentication or verification, just took Mitchell at his word?! What the hell?"

    • @farpointgamingdirect
      @farpointgamingdirect 4 роки тому +14

      I felt the same way. And you can tell that video Silly Bitchell submitted was doctored

    • @evanabbott2737
      @evanabbott2737 2 роки тому

      These lying, scumbag nerds…😂

    • @sorrenblitz805
      @sorrenblitz805 Рік тому +1

      He's got low friends in high places

  • @MrFutago87
    @MrFutago87 6 років тому +143

    You say the technical stuff is dry and boring but I find that strangely fascinating.

    • @Bitscreed
      @Bitscreed  6 років тому +26

      I find a lot of it strangely fascinating too, but I wanted to make this story a bit more accessible for people who don't. Blame the countless pairs of eyes I've seen glaze over at the mere mention of words like "RAM" or "mouse pointer."

    • @ultimaIXultima
      @ultimaIXultima 5 років тому +3

      I gotta agree. The technical stuff is what makes the bread and butter of the story. Sure, it might be dry for some, but perhaps it could have been added at the end, "for those who want to see it". Just a suggestion.

    • @rhaeven
      @rhaeven 4 роки тому +1

      @@ultimaIXultima If you haven't already, I'd definitely check out the videos on Todd Rogers and Billy Mitchell by the youtuber Bitscreed quoted, Apollo Legend. His content is for fans of speedrunning, so he goes into a lot more technical detail than here.

  • @thegreathadoken6808
    @thegreathadoken6808 6 років тому +630

    No, not Billy Mitchell! He seemed so honest, likeable and not in the slightest bit conspiratorial...

    • @itzlio3livion
      @itzlio3livion 6 років тому +18

      The Great Hadoken No but he cheated on all of the games he got a world record on

    • @thegreathadoken6808
      @thegreathadoken6808 6 років тому +8

      ツLio3LivioN Mitchell was a cheat? Say it ain't so.
      Btw, do you know for sure he cheated on EVERY game he got a WR on, or just DK and DKJ?

    • @itzlio3livion
      @itzlio3livion 6 років тому +8

      Well I just assumed that he cheated on every game (which he probably did) as he cheated in the DK and DKJ games, and Pacman was the next in line

    • @thegreathadoken6808
      @thegreathadoken6808 6 років тому +44

      ツLio3LivioN You know, at one time Mitchell really WAS the greatest arcade player in the world, he actually made his name uncovering a cheat back in the early 80's. I suspect that he earned the vast majority of his records over the years perfectly honestly.
      Of course, having made his name and his fortune on being known as the greatest arcade gamer alive, when the new generation came along, with access to MAME, with a fresh set of skills having been forged in the fires of modern gaming as well as having access to all those rock-hard old games on tap no quarters required, and with a hunger to achieve that simply cannot be rivalled by anyone except other young men, he lost his edge and decided to turn to the dark side.
      He could have marketed himself as a legend, done the circuit, made some money playing DK and DKJ and all the other games by appointment for crowds of cooing gamers but he had to fuck it all up trying to keep up with hungrier, but only very slightly more skillful guys.
      My point is, Mitchell really IS a very, VERY good player. One in a million, even now. Don't let these recent revelations take that away too. And he likely earned many records legitimately, certainly to begin with, probably for many years after, and some maybe even now, although it's fair enough to delete ALL his records since one cannot tell legit from not, which is his own damn stupid fault.

    • @itzlio3livion
      @itzlio3livion 6 років тому +16

      Well, I guess that's true. He probably was a good player at those games back in the day, and yes, he did fuck up trying to seem better. Point taken. 👍

  • @DeathEgg666
    @DeathEgg666 4 роки тому +44

    Billy genuinely seems like a well created villain from a film or something lol

    • @ninjasolidsnake
      @ninjasolidsnake 4 роки тому +7

      He looks like a caricature of a used car salesman.

    • @3dmaster205
      @3dmaster205 2 роки тому +2

      Peter Dinklege's character in Pixels is inspired by him.

    • @whatzittooya9012
      @whatzittooya9012 2 роки тому +3

      He seems like he'd be played by Ben Stiller.

    • @KneppaH
      @KneppaH 5 місяців тому

      He's uncle Rico from Napoleon Dynamite.

    • @DeathEgg666
      @DeathEgg666 5 місяців тому

      @@KneppaH no he isn't haha that is Jon Gries

  • @sanctifizzle
    @sanctifizzle 3 роки тому +24

    I've watched this video dozens of times since you uploaded it. It's surreal watching this with the bits from Apollo Legend as well as everything that's happened with Billy and Apollo since all this started. RIP Apollo. Keep this video uploaded. It's a piece of preserved history at this point.

  • @dem0n0maniac
    @dem0n0maniac 4 роки тому +26

    I love what a train wreck into a dumpster fire the whole thing is. He is STILL fighting, just keeps doubling down.

    • @dereksbooks
      @dereksbooks Рік тому +1

      The Jussie Smollett of Donkey Kong arcade gaming.

  • @herr_crustovsky
    @herr_crustovsky Рік тому +10

    you deserve way more subs/recognition. I love to see people sit down and rationally assess all sides and talk gentlemanly about a dispute, instead of the snarky and hate-filled way of conducting such discussions on the internet these days.

  • @karadanianoI
    @karadanianoI 4 роки тому +18

    13:03 i love how you showed billy's crappy sauce when you sayed the words "lack of consistency"

  • @cellardoor7500
    @cellardoor7500 6 років тому +4

    THE best coverage of this whole drama. Thank you. Fascinating details.

  • @darklsn
    @darklsn 6 років тому +22

    I fucking love when you make these videos. You can really see that a lot of work goes into them. You do like 30 second one takes which I really appreciate. You speak very fluidly and convey ideas very well in them.

  • @JonathanXLindqviust
    @JonathanXLindqviust 6 років тому +67

    You forget that he vehemently smeared his accusers, a cheater proven to be a cheater who has no remorse deserves no pity and not a single record to his name because he brings shame to the game.

    • @MK-bi1hj
      @MK-bi1hj 3 роки тому +6

      And now he's suing anyone who even speaks of him. Apollo Legend,Twin Galaxies, Guinness, even someone who literally dedicated 1 line of a video to him, Karl Jobst.

  • @andeggbreaks
    @andeggbreaks 2 роки тому +4

    One of the most helpful summaries of the situation, cheers!

  • @ShaneusSnake
    @ShaneusSnake 3 роки тому +6

    You knocked this video out of the park. Informative, humorous and even-keeled. The interstitials of Walter Day theatrically calling the fouls were hilarious .

  • @Tomn8er
    @Tomn8er 6 років тому +3

    This was very well presented. Informative and entertaining! Good stuff dude

  • @silentc1015
    @silentc1015 5 років тому +1

    Very interesting! Thanks for creating and publishing this

  • @SmeagolTheBeagle
    @SmeagolTheBeagle 6 років тому +2

    Thanks for this video mate it was exactly what i was looking for. Decent length breakdown all the important details and British narration. Cheers matey!

  • @justinwagers7440
    @justinwagers7440 6 років тому +8

    this is the first video i've seen from you as a youtube creator and it's honestly for me like watching a very well laid out documentary you'd find on tv. I've sat through the whole thing and was generally interested in watching every second. Very well done sir, look forward to checking out your other videos. Subscribed!

  • @jenniferpruitt6534
    @jenniferpruitt6534 6 років тому +61

    There are rumors of a sequel to The King of Kong. And the timing is perfect if true!
    King Of Kong 2: The Fall of the King....

    • @SAM-ru4vx
      @SAM-ru4vx 6 років тому +1

      there are 2 other "documentary" about video games featuring billy mitchell.

    • @WPGinterceptor460Interceptor
      @WPGinterceptor460Interceptor 6 років тому +2

      chasing ghosts

    • @Flaxdosh
      @Flaxdosh 5 років тому +1

      And pixel is just a icing on the cake

    • @RetroGamesMas
      @RetroGamesMas 3 роки тому

      Hey but he does it again with no cheat..and he show the entire world..that he was no cheater..he does it..u can see the original video..he was on LIVE on a Arcade district.

  • @girspiritbanelord6322
    @girspiritbanelord6322 6 років тому +13

    ... My god that toaster is EASILY the greatest random character ever! He made that DLC for me!

  • @Raindrops668
    @Raindrops668 6 років тому +10

    I literally just finished watching The King of Kong and can't believe all this happened this year to follow on from it! So glad to hear Billy has been caught he was so sketchy in that doc it was infuriating. Thanks for the video!

  • @mharm734
    @mharm734 6 років тому +149

    Its not Billy's fault that the mandela effect replaced all his footage using a real donkey Kong machine with mame footage.

    • @nejiham1272
      @nejiham1272 6 років тому +4

      mharm734 nice one

    • @gregmcgregginton574
      @gregmcgregginton574 5 років тому +17

      This is actually a good one to use, I'd resort to that if I was Billy

    • @djbneozen
      @djbneozen 5 років тому +3

      Man. Great comment!

    • @SegaDream131
      @SegaDream131 5 років тому +3

      EES BEEN MANDELERED MATE!!!😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @Sly_Maverick_19
      @Sly_Maverick_19 4 роки тому +5

      Don't forget about the human element.

  • @OldieWan
    @OldieWan 6 років тому +14

    This is a very well made video! The way you told the story and dove into the deepest sections of the pool had me interested all the way through. Thank you for this video. You earned yourself a new subscriber this evening Pixel Burn. As an old school gamer I look forward to checking out much more of your content.

    • @Bitscreed
      @Bitscreed  6 років тому +2

      Thank you very much!

    • @OldieWan
      @OldieWan 6 років тому +1

      Bitscreed,
      You are very welcome! But in all truth, THANK YOU!
      You have a real talent for story telling, and doing you tube videos. And most of all you have taken the time to give your thanks to those who have come to send you this praise.
      This is why I no longer have cable TV in my home.
      Places like you tube has filled the void of the time I would spend mindlessly watching programs that could honestly care less about their viewers.
      Keep up the good work. I shall be around, watching within the dark corners of the room.
      Very rarely do I speak up, or comment. However when I do, I try to offer some meaning and share my interest in something that you clearly have put a lot of work into. Your effort and time spent shows. It does not fall on blind eyes and deaf ears.
      Have a great day today!

    • @Bitscreed
      @Bitscreed  6 років тому

      Thank you, and I'm sorry I missed this follow-up reply because it's greatly appreciated. This video has gotten rather a lot more attention than I'm used to and many of the more constructive comments have sadly got lost in the noise.

    • @rhaeven
      @rhaeven 4 роки тому

      This video actually doesn't go that far into some details, particularly about Todd. Also, anyone found to have ever used a honkler avatar is getting the wall.

  • @Loner2012AT
    @Loner2012AT 5 років тому +2

    Nice video! You really did a great job bringing all the elements of this amazing story together. Plus - I laughed out loud several times so extra props for that! Keep it up!

  • @3rdAgeSoap
    @3rdAgeSoap 4 роки тому +19

    I've heard this story hundreds of times. Watching Apollo Legend tear into everything in each video was fantastic. And this one was very good as well

    • @lusafur950
      @lusafur950 3 роки тому +1

      yeah Apollos videos where great and now they are gone .So I hope Mitchells lawsuit did NOT make Apollo take them down

  • @thenortonanti
    @thenortonanti 6 років тому +4

    One of the best videos on what's been going on in the Donkey Kong world. While it's not in as others depth, it's easily understood and hit's all the notes it needs to be to be accurate and not misleading. I'm impressed.

  • @nout1972
    @nout1972 5 років тому +6

    Billy Mitchell makes a good case in reconsidering the old conviction that you can judge a book by its cover: he looks like a villain so he must be a villain.

  • @handofahhh9012
    @handofahhh9012 5 років тому +1

    Great video. I enjoyed it mutchly

  • @UnboxRacing
    @UnboxRacing 5 років тому +3

    In the midst of this absurd controversy, you have charted a brilliant course. Fantastic documentary, Thank you

  • @karadanianoI
    @karadanianoI 6 років тому +5

    i feel sorry for roy schmidt, for many years he was the butt of the arcade community, everything he said was considered a joke. but as a common saying says "when a crazy person says something dont get surprised if he ends being right"

  • @TipsterLIVE
    @TipsterLIVE 6 років тому +112

    Great video on the subject. Keep it up! 👍

  • @madsntay5060
    @madsntay5060 4 роки тому +2

    Your content is incredible. Your commentary is top notch. Please keep making content

  • @urielgrey
    @urielgrey 4 місяці тому

    Hope you are doing amazing! It's amazing how time flies that I've been a fan for over 6 years! Happy new year and i hope you and yours are doing well!

  • @spacecowboy6667
    @spacecowboy6667 4 роки тому +5

    Very well presented and factual. Great job 👍😊

  • @morten5939
    @morten5939 6 років тому +223

    Impressive how every damn youtuber and his mother "feels pity" or compassion towards this dude;
    And not A SINGLE ONE mentions the supposed friends who he stole the spotlight from.
    Imagine being Rick Fothergill, who was superior to "billy mitchell" at the game but in the spirit of competition they agreed to keep competing the next time they met. While he honored it, the cheater immediately went to another arcade to have unlimited tries to get it done. He has spent DECADES capitalizing on other peoples achievements and whenever the scorn people speak out they are openly attacked by his loyalists, defamed and treated like shit.
    Yet when this menace, this leech and vulture have been rightfully removed from the scoreboard he lied to get into; not a single word is spoken in their defense but everyone talks about how they feel sorry for this person. Thats more fitting for a sociopath than a normal person.
    PS; you mention the splicing of video; that was debunked in the thread. Those "cuts" came from the low quality transfer method the video went through (most probably it was Dwayne Richards who, when VHS videotaping the score from his tv screen. it was not a part of the conclusion done by twin galaxies.
    PSS; "billy" mitchell is also a owner and on the board of directors of that "gaming magazine". thats just how these huxters act; they always make sure to have a position where they could stop "mean words" from spreading.
    I have yet to see a video dedicated to the actual victims of billy mitchells insane egotrip and not about this scam/conartist.

    • @Igneeka
      @Igneeka 6 років тому +11

      Well Billy really is a major asshole so I can see why he's pissed off

    • @eblizzard2842
      @eblizzard2842 6 років тому +31

      Agreed, I've known people like Billy in my own life and I stayed away from any kind of interaction with them. I did watch the King of Kong documentary years back when it first came out, and just by looking at the guy I knew something was off about him. Appearance (gasp!) and demeanor can be extremely revealing about a person. Automatically after seeing him, his body language, and listening to him talk I knew I couldn't give this guy the time of day if I knew him. I couldn't talk to him without laughing in his face, simply because of how ridiculous he is and how seriously he takes himself. Now a few years later seeing all this stuff about cheating and all this nonsense, it comes as no surprise. Typically, sociopaths like this are extremely arrogant and self aware. But, they are completely unaware of how obvious they are. This guy is an awful liar, and his manipulation tactics are so transparent it's painful to watch feeble minds slobber all over his dick. It's sad really, that someone so pathetic as Billy can so easily manipulate people desperate for someone to look up to. This kind of person has pathological issues and it's unfortunate that it's so easy for this type to lead a herd so willing to follow.

    • @Dovah21
      @Dovah21 6 років тому +18

      He'll get no sympathy from me, that's for sure. Billy Mitchell being a scumbag would be obvious to anyone with a semi-functional bullshit detector and paid even passing attention to his behavior in King of Kong. Guy's an manipulative, childish asshole and good riddance to him.

    • @flameconvoy7424
      @flameconvoy7424 6 років тому +7

      Morten Apollo legend had zero sympathy and called him a total scumbag

    • @TKUltra971
      @TKUltra971 6 років тому +6

      Billy is a fraud and a con. Shows over for him. This didn't help his publicity or his fame. If anything its turned attention towards twin galaxies and the much needed scrutiny of the classic gaming scene.

  • @sebastiansochanski
    @sebastiansochanski 6 років тому +1

    Never been here before but I'm very happy that I stumbled upon your channel.Very well presented and nicely put together.Had good time in your company.Definetaly will check back.Ta

  • @roebbiej
    @roebbiej 5 років тому +1

    Your presentation is amazing dude :)

  • @fearanarchy
    @fearanarchy 4 роки тому +11

    You don't get to determine how much I want to know about Donkey Kong Jr arcade boards. I want to know about the diets of the personnel who crafted and loved theose boards. Did they have a carb heavy or protein heavy diet? When they went home were they asked about their day, or did they expend all the ,over they had to give into their craft?
    ...We need MORE, deeper dives into those arcade boards.
    Good video, I found it very well paced and didn't dwindle.

  • @tristanbaravraham6349
    @tristanbaravraham6349 6 років тому +11

    This is exactly the kind of video that makes me love UA-cam. Many very smart, even brilliant folks out there and I get to hear their opinions and ideas. Well done and please rock on. I been an IT guy since NT 4 in the beginning it was all swingers, fan clubs, and universities. I never dreamed it would get this good.

  • @mynerdyacademia5996
    @mynerdyacademia5996 Рік тому +1

    Great video my man!!

  • @rileywilliams4972
    @rileywilliams4972 3 роки тому +2

    "I guess when you have enough money you can create whatever you want." Brutal, Roy. Love it.

  • @saranobutt
    @saranobutt 5 років тому +34

    I never trusted Peter Dinklage anyway.

    • @paulmajano
      @paulmajano 4 роки тому +2

      Sara Wilcker I trust you lol

  • @mikehydropneumatic2583
    @mikehydropneumatic2583 6 років тому +36

    Weird I find is that when the Wiebe vs Mitchell battle was going there wasn't a rule like "no show no win".
    Wiebe showed up and was ready to compete. The VHS stuff of Mitchell is just pathetic, he knew Wiebe was better.
    In all sports to my knowledge you become world champion by competing 101.
    Mitchell just had found a way to wheezle himself into a competition where he could change the rules when competition got better than him.
    When I first saw Bill Mitchell all bells went off and all red flags were waving.
    This guy has mental issues is what I thought.

    • @timothye.2902
      @timothye.2902 6 років тому

      the difference here is that the two were not competing in the "standard" way compared to a sports game, where two teams actually oppose eachother's progress.
      With speedrunning or getting a high score, there's no need to do so at a specific time or location (as long as the gameplay is legitimate) and you're not competing with just one person, and no one is activly opposing your progress.
      speedrunning or highscoring is just a display of mechanical skill and RNG (where applicable) boiled down to a number and then compared with other numbers made over the course of history under the same parameters.
      Any requirement to use specific hardware, or have witnesses/footage, is to prove the numbers legitimate, not to create the ability to play in the first place (as with sports).

    • @mikehydropneumatic2583
      @mikehydropneumatic2583 6 років тому +10

      Wiebe showed up in front of Bill's lawn. The coward never showed up.
      Wiebe is my man, he is relaxed and intelligent in a good way!

    • @AndrewAmbrose
      @AndrewAmbrose 5 років тому

      Mike Hydropneumatic my dad was also angered about that when he saw The King of Kong

    • @orangejoe204
      @orangejoe204 5 років тому +2

      Frankly, both of them are Aspergers cases. No other human being could develop the devout dedication and pinpoint fascination with high-scoring on such an old game. But Wiebe came off as a normal Aspie nerd whereas Mitchell clearly also has Narcissistic Personality Disorder; he literally wakes up every morning and thinks of ways to "get what he's due" for being the awesome Ubermensch he is, it's just that the stuff he feels he's owed by the world are all really nerdy Aspie shit like holding a world record for fucking Donkey Kong...
      In a way, he's terribly sad. The dude's immaculately dressed, obsessed with appearance vs. fact, a masterful bullshit artist, and able to lie the way normal people breathe; why isn't he a professional gambler or a hedge fund manager, driving a Ferrari and banging cocktail waitresses 3 at a time?
      Oh right. The Aspergers. The obsession. It's real. It's why he genuinely won his first award, then probably sat up for 48 hours blowing cocaine and muttering "Now, how to KEEP it....forever! hmmmmmmmm." He's like autistic Gollum.

    • @alaeriia01
      @alaeriia01 5 років тому +3

      There's no need to declare Wes Copeland's 1.218M world record as "really nerdy Aspie shit". It's a legitimate world record. How many world records do you have?
      I am ashamed to share a name with you.

  • @billyed
    @billyed 5 років тому +2

    This is a good video. I like how you don’t have, like, fake excitement but the video still has a good pace. Good job.

  • @gunziscomin2058
    @gunziscomin2058 4 роки тому +1

    Awesome video dude

  • @JeanMarceaux
    @JeanMarceaux 3 роки тому +11

    God damn it, can Jace Hall become any more based? The more I learn of him, the more I'm astounded.
    Add.: "If you've stuck around for all this, congratulations, you now know more than you've probably ever cared for about Donkey Kong arcade boards" was an unapologetically ashens moment, the delivery and the wording and the facial expression and everything.

  • @caslaBBalsac
    @caslaBBalsac 6 років тому +9

    0:46
    OH MY GOSH!! Now I get the purpose of that character from pixels. He was a satire of Bill Mitchell. And people say that movie had no layers.................

  • @adammaddox2383
    @adammaddox2383 5 років тому +1

    Top notch video mate 👍.

  • @elrifle24
    @elrifle24 6 років тому +1

    Great work

  • @GetBenched2010
    @GetBenched2010 3 роки тому +6

    After the last buyout of TG, the ENTIRE REFEREE ROSTER needed to be shown the door immediately. Day and his cronies were so corrupt that Twin Galaxies' records are ALL suspect.

  • @MarquisdeSuave
    @MarquisdeSuave 6 років тому +30

    So basically Adam Sandler was ahead of the curve when he wrote the character of Eddie Plant, the cheater.

    • @monstalova
      @monstalova 2 роки тому

      You know Pixels came out 8 years after King of Kong. The doco basically implied Billy was a cheater the whole time, even from a kid.

  • @jadenasher6290
    @jadenasher6290 6 років тому +1

    Excellent video. Stay the course.

  • @matthewmcallister9354
    @matthewmcallister9354 4 роки тому +2

    I dunno how I came across your channel but really good job, you have a good voice and cadence for this commentary stuff

  • @Bound4Earth
    @Bound4Earth 3 роки тому +6

    To be fair, Billy Mitchell admitted as much in King of Kong. It just took a lot of people another decade or so to figure it out.
    Video games are meant to be played in a competitive environment, under pressure, organized, where you have to perform, literally on demand. And when you do that, you have far more credibility then someone who says "oh I did that last week (you saw the glitched video tape I made instead of performing live that was merely a copy with no master). No matter how good you play Tennis, no matter how good you play golf, If you don't play when you have to play, if you don't play when the pressure is on, you're really not good enough. - Billly Mitchell

  • @flipndip5122
    @flipndip5122 6 років тому +19

    This guy is still lying on his twitter and still has fans backing him. What a pathetic human being. To be able to sit there and lie to people that trust you, to cameras.. It's honestly psychopathic

    • @jameson32
      @jameson32 5 років тому +2

      Nah, you are being overly dramatic and looking too much into this. He's more of a sociopath :P

  • @LexEllis
    @LexEllis 5 років тому +1

    Ahhhhh! excellent video!

  • @Yesterdays92
    @Yesterdays92 6 років тому +1

    Very Well Done! Thank You!! :-)

  • @djennings802
    @djennings802 6 років тому +88

    The word fibber sounds a lot more hurtful in a British accent

    • @legebertplinkett4284
      @legebertplinkett4284 5 років тому +6

      Ya a lot of mundane words sound like curses with the right British accent.

    • @TheWickedArcade
      @TheWickedArcade 5 років тому

      Fibba lol

    • @avagueblur
      @avagueblur 5 років тому +3

      What a fibbin rotta

    • @yamabushi170
      @yamabushi170 5 років тому +6

      Ah but conversely our American cousins do sexy talk on a level we can never hope to attain. Have you ever watched a British porn? "cum on baaayb, shuv it reyt up mi arse". *shudder*

    • @scottbreon9448
      @scottbreon9448 5 років тому +1

      What about a German accent? LOL

  • @Nero-pe4yq
    @Nero-pe4yq 5 років тому +4

    Billy looks like the real life counterpart of the weird guy nerdy magic guy that Bobby was hanging out with from king of the hill

  • @dfortaeGameReviews
    @dfortaeGameReviews 6 років тому +1

    Well done with this compilation of facts. Very intriguing subject.

  • @citizengar
    @citizengar 6 років тому

    Great video, thanks.

  • @drakkenmensch
    @drakkenmensch 6 років тому +45

    Wait a minute - since Peter Dinklage's character in Pixels was a parody of Mitchell, and he ends up exposed as a cheater in the end, years before this story broke out... ADAM SANDLER IS A PROPHET!

    • @v3ck1n
      @v3ck1n 5 років тому +16

      People have been calling out Mitchell for cheating since like the 90s

    • @oaktree2406
      @oaktree2406 5 років тому +1

      The real messiah. Lol

    • @SegaDream131
      @SegaDream131 5 років тому

      Stop looking at me swan.....

    • @guyverjay1289
      @guyverjay1289 2 роки тому

      Er no

  • @jimmyhuddleston1079
    @jimmyhuddleston1079 4 роки тому +27

    It seems simple to solve this.... Billy Mitchell needs to beat the records again and have film footage of the entire event, and witnesses. If he is as good as he claims it should be easy for him to do... Right?

    • @RPGManoWar
      @RPGManoWar 4 роки тому +7

      Well it's not just about breaking the records now, two of the records being disputed were "First to reach 1mil in Pac-Man" and "First to reach 1mil in Donkey Kong". As it turns out, Mitchell was not the first to do either of these. I'm sure he could break those records now, but at the time, he was not the first. He took those records from the 2 people who actually deserve them

    • @Segastar1
      @Segastar1 4 роки тому +5

      i've seen recent videos of him playing pacman, he knows how to play it well, pretty well but his reputation is forever tarnished. There's a huge documentary here on youtube that goes into how big that scandal went as well as how Billy Mitchell was all part of a big PR stunt that actually kept the real record holders from being recognized. (Apollo Legend's videos talk about the guy who made the documentary for a small budget) It's all so sad to hear about

  • @tubebandits4439
    @tubebandits4439 5 років тому +2

    this was a dope episode, greetings from germany

  • @chchedda
    @chchedda 5 років тому

    Excellent video. Subscribed

  • @apollion888
    @apollion888 6 років тому +3

    Your synthesis and summation of the story are terrific and your flashing glasses drove me crazy. Excuse me while I put on my "homicidal maniac" hat for a few hours ...

  • @SouthwesternEagle
    @SouthwesternEagle 5 років тому +4

    This is a classic example of why honesty pays off and prevails.
    Being dishonest will cost you everything in the end.

    • @LateNightTableCo
      @LateNightTableCo 9 місяців тому

      “…A dishonest man you can always trust to be dishonest. Honestly, it’s the honest one you want to watch out for, because you never know when they’re going to do something incredibly…stew-pid.”
      -Capt. Jack Sparrow

  • @DasHemdchen
    @DasHemdchen Рік тому +1

    Great story-telling!

  • @Leeside999
    @Leeside999 5 років тому +1

    Great vid. thanks

  • @kamekakarot
    @kamekakarot 6 років тому +3

    "Player Fortknown's Battlenite" XD I'm subscribing to you, this was a great video. Billy Mitchell always struck me as a cocky, smug bastard.

  • @KassFireborn
    @KassFireborn 6 років тому +8

    A++ Silent Hill reference.
    I'm glad you've finally gotten patreon. I've been basically mentally ticking off some money to give you for ages; I really feel like you deserve more recognition/exposure than you're getting. I can legit say you're the best thing the Slaughtering Grounds ever did for me.

  • @weaselboyjenkins3931
    @weaselboyjenkins3931 9 місяців тому

    Why? Why? Why did UA-cam start showing me these videos? Now I’m officially hooked and I can’t stop watching. Great video.

  • @manuelantonio888
    @manuelantonio888 3 роки тому +1

    Great video mate! I don't know how in the hell you don't have more subscribers!

  • @Bldyiii
    @Bldyiii 6 років тому +265

    So the movie Pixels by Adam Sandler, that everyone hates, got it right??

    • @WarlockX4
      @WarlockX4 6 років тому +64

      Leonid Denisenko Yes. I thought the exact same thing. Got to give them respect for calling it early.

    • @dr.funkenstein9790
      @dr.funkenstein9790 6 років тому +2

      It was a scam

    • @Andystuff800
      @Andystuff800 6 років тому +16

      Right that he cheated, but there is still no eay to cheat the way he did in the movie.

    • @DarkkirbyKRPG
      @DarkkirbyKRPG 6 років тому +61

      There's a character that rivals Young Adam Sandler in a video game competition back in the 80s. The character is played by Peter Dinklage, who bears a resemblance to Billy Mitchell. It all comes down to Sandler and Dinklage in a competition to reach a specific score in Pacman first, and Dinklage does it first. It is revealed at around the climax of the movie, decades later, that Peter had cheated.
      That's how Pixels "called" it.

    • @uselessDM
      @uselessDM 6 років тому +7

      Everything that was original came from a previous video they got "inspiration" from.

  • @GottaLoveCheese
    @GottaLoveCheese 6 років тому +5

    Personally, I think his scores were legit until he submitted the 1,000,000+ score. In the film, Walter questions Billy and mentions over the phone that Billy wasn't originally officially submitting the score.
    I think he was sending it for the ego of being able to say he was the worlds number 1 and it wasn't even his highest score. But when Steve took the top spot he left himself no option but to submit it or it would only have raised more questions as to why he wasn't submitting it.
    And while losing all his clearly legit records is harsh, sitting on top of a throne for so many years when you cheated to get there is more harsh on people like Steve.

  • @Paul_Ivanish
    @Paul_Ivanish 5 років тому +1

    Nice analysis. When I watched King of Kong, I gave no second thought to the idea of the happenings behind the scenes. To me, the end of that documentary was the end of it, and that was that. Since then, I've watched a couple of videos on the topic, and I knew Wiebe was no longer the top score. Your video, however, has revealed much more and shed light on several more aspects on the topic.
    Very good video. Thanks for making it. Have my sub!

  • @ryandowd7040
    @ryandowd7040 5 років тому +1

    I love this guy! Instant sub!

  • @BoJangles42
    @BoJangles42 5 років тому +15

    Congrats Steve Weibe you’ll always be a true King Of Kong.

    • @YourGirlYang
      @YourGirlYang Рік тому

      How? He's nowhere near the top of the Donkey Kong records list. Wiebe was a weird fuck nerd who nobody liked.

  • @defrok6673
    @defrok6673 5 років тому +4

    You have no idea how happy I was to see this vid. Team Wiebe.

  • @187mrsmith
    @187mrsmith Рік тому +2

    You are the 🐐 for using that Omar from The wire clip 😂 RIP Omar AKA Micheal Williams

  • @EdBMetal
    @EdBMetal 5 років тому +2

    Well presented video. You captured my attention until the end. good job! I love these old classic games from my childhood. Never had any clue there was such a drama going on for years. Looks like WWF lol!

  • @darklsn
    @darklsn 6 років тому +11

    I'm only 18 mins in but god damn is this an emotional roller coaster.

  • @broken1394
    @broken1394 5 років тому +12

    This is an awesome fall.
    Everybody loves a good baddie.
    Technology caught up with Todd and Billy.
    If Pac man was done in public it's still damn impressive to me.
    It's probably right that he was disqualified across the board.
    King of Kong was wonderful ...
    Hope someone will update it, maybe a new version with recent documentaries tagged in the extras.
    Good job on this video.
    👌♥️

  • @horsicusfaticus4527
    @horsicusfaticus4527 5 років тому +1

    Outstanding vid, just got youself a new sub :)

  • @stanley8441
    @stanley8441 5 років тому +1

    Good video. Thanks

  • @davetindell4110
    @davetindell4110 Рік тому +4

    Saw Mr. MITCHELL at the Nashville Music Comic Con and Kumite in Tennessee this past weekend. He had a booth. Literally NO ONE came to talk to him. He was treated like a stray dog, with more contempt..
    My girlfriend asked why I didn't talk to him. I showed her the "kings of kong". She said "he's slime, glad we didn't talk to that cheater."

    • @snooganslestat2030
      @snooganslestat2030 Рік тому +1

      Haha how sad!

    • @matthewsisk
      @matthewsisk Рік тому +1

      I would of asked for a photo just to be ironic but billy would probably charge $$ for it

    • @davetindell4110
      @davetindell4110 Рік тому

      @@matthewsisk they were $20. I elected to pass.

  • @Shenaldrac
    @Shenaldrac 6 років тому +3

    Oh cool, you got your Patreon opened!
    And thank you for doing this video, it was interesting to watch.

    • @Bitscreed
      @Bitscreed  6 років тому

      Thank you for watching it!

    • @KassFireborn
      @KassFireborn 6 років тому +1

      IT IS?
      [rushes off]
      EDIT: This is the hazard of skimming comments because you don't want to watch a talking mullet.

  • @therealrobin8128
    @therealrobin8128 6 років тому +1

    You remember me a little to Gaming history, good stuff man and your voice helps

  • @RageOfTheTiger
    @RageOfTheTiger 5 років тому

    Great video BTW!