Everything Wrong With Tenet In 12 Minutes Or Less
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Tenet has sins, then it has reverse sins, and... f*ck this movie is confusing. We did our best to sin it, though. :)
Next week: Time Travel sins and Aviation sins.
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The fact that Pattinson said when filming tenet he didn't understand what was going on for weeks yet he plays a character that "always knows too much" is just prime example of how far the guy has come in his acting career
he and Pauly Shore
He still has an emotionless face lol
That has nothing to do with him. It has to do with this terrible script. When your star actor has no idea what's going on your movie sucks.
By the way this movie sucks
@LudaChez you think the actors making The Matrix really knew what was going on? Inception? Intersteller? the actors don't need to be able to give a lecture on the plot to give a good performance and the movie turn out well and enjoyable.
@@michaelweston2285 when the actor has already seen the completed project and says he doesn't understand it at all. Followed with the fact that it's a weak script that doesn't make sense... Then in this situation yes.
Sure Michael Caine is barely in Inception and this film and he couldn't tell you anything maybe, and that's fine.
But when a vast majority of people feel this way, your lead feels this way, then is everyone wrong and Nolan is right and we are just fools?
No. This movie is awful.
And the lead actor of any movie should be able to tell you SOMETHING. you bring up the Matrix. I bet Keanu could have told you "the world is a simulation and the real world is post apocalyptic" after filming half of it. Come on. Are you just looking for reasons to defend a bad movie?
Tenet: Hold my beer.
Inception: I’m the most complicated movie.
I see how you inverted the conversation lol
@@Creukelen Dammit the joke flew right over my head.
Just watched the movie.... brain damaged is permanent now
You deserve more likes
@@victorgant5086 same lol
*This is the cleverest editing done by Cinemasins yet.*
Cleverest😍
For real, I loved it!
I thought the same. This comment needs more likes!
At 12:55 I understood this comment, but between then and 15:55 to the end of the video I had no clue wheat was up with the sin counter. I'm not even sure the sin counter knew what it was doing.
I know right? Th3birdman is fucked now! LOL
This movie was so confusing even the explaining of the sins had me confused.
nolan critics see themselves very intelligent lol
Underrated comment
Same
So true yep
Made sense to me
The reverse sin counter confused me more than this movie did.
Now look at the Movie Sin Timer. It goes forward and backwards depending on what direction the clip is going
Took me a sec to figure it out
Yes!! I was so lost for a sec 😂 so freaking clever!
Syncing sin timer with Protagonist's entropy was insane.
Was wondering if anyone else noticed this. Wonder if this will be the 1st movie without sins then...
“In less than 12 minutes”
“Video lasts 24 minutes”
Cinemasins:
Don’t try to understand it
feel it
Veritas_Prince of Truth (2007) (English Movie) what movie name anyone
The sins get inverted at the halfway point, so therefore we can assume that there is only 12 minutes worth of sins in this movie.
@@mikebews8716 tenet...
@@the_Scarlet_one yeah i found it kinda funny that they decided to remove sins instead of adding sins because it’s in reverse lol
When the move is so complicated you can’t even understand everything wrong with it
"All of it" is what's wrong with it. Backwards and forwards, it's a turd.
the movie is not complicated, its not even that smart. its just complex
@@ieaturanium574 THANK YOU!!! I say this to everyone. The movie itself is not complicated, the problem is that the concept used is complex. There is a clear effort from Nolan to explain the whole thing (characters explain everything all the time), but it is still complex.
@@ieaturanium574 !nietsniE kO
@@RISKILNIKIV uibolt gps uif dpnqmjnfou
“Okay that was clever.” “Wow that makes literally no goddamned sense” - Me throughout this entire film
We live in a twilight world!
Robert: oh not that shit again
hahhahahaa
Sator square
That was probably Christopher Nolan quickly getting those jokes out of the way.
looooool
🤣🤣🤣
When a sin is removed but it's just a sin added in reverse.
Si
It took me embarrassingly too long to figure that out 😑
I’m going to have to add a sin for that comment
tfw when the Movie Sin Timer runs to 11 mins 49 secs ... pauses over 1 second but clearly not 2 ... then starts rolling backward XD
in fact as Jeremy's saying "I can't promise being in inverted time won't effect this video itself" O:-)
I didn’t get it till I was 10 min into the video 😂
The fact that the sins that happen in reverse time make the sin count go down rather than up is masterful
So did the time
Wow, didn't catch that. Nice.
ikr
Literally gave me chills at how genius that was.
Missed opportunity to end the sin count at 69.
It still had one of the best dialogue exchanges/twists in a long time. "What's happened, happened. Which is an expression of faith in the mechanics of the world. It's not an excuse to do nothing"
Same as it is what it is?
@@DJNITON basically saying there is fate but it’s bc you did it in the future out of your own free will it doesn’t mean you get to do nothing and everything comes to u
@@bennettsilverstein1487that's the best way to say it
"In 12 Minutes Or Less"
Video is 24 minutes
"But- oooh..."
🤣took me a while too
I didn't even notice that.
Set it x2
this SIN VID requires multiple viewings to fully understand
dude lol... this is IMPRESSIVE AS FUCK the boys really outdid themselves this time - most cleverest vid 🤘🤘👍👍
The backwards sin counter is a nice touch aswell😂
“I’m not sure if this is a sin but at this point you’re not either” sums up this movie perfectly.
You're*
@@en3myspott3d54 f off
you're*
You're*
i was confused why the sin was moving backwards…then i realised it was TENET
!gnniiid
They did a good job editing this video, it took me a minute to figure it out to lol
Huh, I hadn’t noticed. Probably why I’ve seen this movie about a half a dozen times and am still very confused.
It would have been funnier to finish the sin count, the reverse it as the video went along, timing it with the video's inverted time; the sinning wouldn't make sense, until you finished it, then watched the video in "normal time." Too complicated, or maybe I missed something?
Yes, very clever of them to take the concept of the movie they're sinning to "use against" them...
Robert Pattison really showed his acting chops since twilight. Slowly becoming one of my favorite actors
He was the only good thing in this pointless movie. I didn’t even realize it was him till the end credits!!!
You should see him in The Lighthouse. God his performance there is Day Lewis comparable
Robert has a lot of good performances like the devil all the time, The king, etc.
batman...
@@dennisbarac1052 lighthouse was insanely good
The sin about needing subtitles was dead on. Not knowing what they just said made this already confusing movie 10 times more so.
My Sound Fucked Up So For The First 10m I Heard Nothing But The Background Audio No Words I Was So Pissed I Thought That Was The Movie
@@AliB333 most of the time its the cinemas fault as Nolan movies come with very specific sound requirements
@@SupremeKai_Omniverse it was said that with COVID going on this movie was mixed with Apple earphones. Instead of in an actual studio
In libtard culture, ambiguity and obscurity is a virtue. You get hailed as a genius by all the pretentious morons.... I mean movie critics.
Strange, I didn’t notice that during the movie. Maybe my audio setup is too good. ;)
I swear Nolan is the only director who makes a movie more confusing the more times you watch it
Nah it gets much more easier the more you watch it
It's less confusing the more you watch it. I watched 3 times on a flight overseas. Just realised more each time. Like Neil is Kat's son.
@@TenshiR
Wait, you watched the same movie 3 times in a row on a plane? A mentally taxing movie like Tenet no less. Man i just watch a movie, go to sleep, and if the plane still on the air when i wake up, maybe put on a different movie.
Listen, if you believe in that you really doesnt know crap about cinema
@@TenshiR wait what?
“Bringing a son into a world you knew was ending” is a funny sin
@@JM_Productions it's a joke. Sator said "Bringing a son into a world you knew was ending" so cinemasin just went "altight then" repeated it and added a sin.
@@JM_Productions Yeah, because it's a joke. We shouldn't take all sins so serious, that's the funny part about this channel
@@JM_Productions But you're not obligated to take any of them seriously, that's the whole point. If it makes sense to you "yeah that's a movie flaw" if you realize it's a joke "haha that's funny". I don't think we're supposed to base our critic and opinion about a movie sole based by CinemaSins, you make up your own mind
@@JM_Productions CinemaSins is not meant to be taken seriously. It's just a very weird joke that gives you an excuse to revisit your favorite movies. If you want serious movie reviews and discussions, listen to their podcast (it's called SinCast).
That pretty much sums up A Quiet Place
I kind of like how the movie itself is so batshit crazy and yet the turnstiles are literally the simplest time machines ever portrayed in film
Then I recommend you to watch "La Jetté" a short film by Chris Marker from the 60s, which inspired 12 Monkeys btw. It is amazing.
Teacher: The test isn’t that confusing.
The test:
No, more like....
*IRS:* These tax forms shouldn't be that confusing.
*TAX FORMS:*
your test isn't reversed bro. imagine having to do calculus and then starting with the bullshit answer as a high school sopmore. that's what this movie is like
@@masonlebouef1441 I think it's much worse: you CAN learn calculus from halfway in the middle.
Watched this movie with my friend at the end he said. " I feel like we have been watching this movie all day and I'm still lost.." not gonna lie it did feel like it was a 5 hours movie..
one of the few movies i seriously considered walking out of lol and i have NEVER walked out of an iMax movie or even thought of it!
When I first watches interstellar I thought I was watching it for days
@@kanishk7214 Yeah but it was such a great movie I didn't mind. The music, the acting, the story, the cinematography ...EPIC
Aye TMT in the building
If you walked out of this movie you would be a fool. But that's ok.
This movie was made for cinemasins, but also also if this was pre-covid we wouldn't get this video until Christmas!
Or was cinemasins made for this movie?
@Robert Monroe That was the Friday movie sins video lol
@Robert Monroe It was a joke...clearly.
@Robert Monroe not too many black ppl are into sci fi flicks. Also, does it bother you that much if he did? You need more excitement in your life if so.
At first I liked the idea of reverse (inverted) entropy. Then they used it correctly, for example the car explosion caused the car windows to freeze. Then I thought if an explosion in reverse is just freezing, why and how are the inverted cars working properly? These are internal combustion engines and rely on entropy. The engines should freeze. But anyway who cares.
The engines are going backwards though not forward.
@@johnnotrealname8168 nvm
@@BurakUnan Dude forgive me, I barely understand myself. I love this film more than most but even with subtitles I was genuinely baffled at points, like what is that city got to do with this? Why are we in this place again and again and of course all the criticisms of the end fight scene I had exactly in that order while watching it (Not as detailed of course.), like who is trying to hurt our Protagonist?
I think the fire causing freezing is one of the obvious examples of where they completely messed up. But yes, you have a point with the fuel. The consensus is that the vehicles themselves are inverted, as they are not being driven in reverse gear. This means the fuel in them is inverted and requires inverted air to combust - they would not work. Likewise, sator would not even be able to light the fuel after TPs crash.
One of my biggest problems lol
Did you enjoy the movie: Yes
Did you understand it: No
Diagnosis: Brain damage
Damn, bruv. Imagine pissing on someone for enjoying a movie that you didn't.
Not saying I enjoyed it, I haven't even seen it. Just saying.
I actually did not enjoy it. The soundtrack is annoying and too loud, the movie takes ages to get anywhere. Then shit gets confusing as fuck for no reason. Plot holes grow. Ending felt empty. I regret seeing it. I am just glad I didn't pay for it.
Don't get me wrong, I like movies that give you stuff to think on. But this is more trouble than it's worth
@@chimnino It is really disturbing to see people assumed that they do not understand it without questioning if the movie even makes sense.
It's like being hit by a word salad... bits and pieces make sense, but it might not work if you try to piece them into a logical sequence
Diagnosis: Nolan
@@chimnino then you didn’t watch it at the right volume. The movie came to theaters with extremely specific sound requirements.
The my cocaine joke caught me so off guard omg
I was so confused when he said Nigel then it hit me that is one of their best jokes ever
@@spiko1755 I don’t get the Nigel joke can you explain it? The ‘my cocaine’ one really got me tho 😂
@@nicolopascutti9570 Nigel Powers is the father of Austin Powers.
Im lost can someone explain
Old joke
It's amazing how you can watch a video that reveals things you hadn't caught in the movie, and through those details you become MORE confused about what happened in the story.
So when the movie is "inverted" the sins got inverted lol, and when it went back to normal it started the normal thing that is a good edit
“It’s a Pincer move”
“OooooooooO”
Like that magically explained anything
DUD ITS THE WOODEN SHIELD
He then goes on to explain what that is...
@@colinjensen8303 exactly lol
it kinda does though lol. if you know what a pincer movement is (even if you don’t, the name itself defines the strategy pretty plainly - i would assume most people know instinctively what a pincer movement is as soon as they hear it), it’s really, really, REALLY obvious what a “temporal pincer movement” is - it can really ONLY mean one thing: attacking one point in time from both the past and the future simultaneously.
in normal terms, a pincer movement can come from any number of opposing directions- north/south, east/west, etc - this adds a bit of obscurity to the maneuver as to how it would be executed... (linear) time ONLY flows in two directions: forwards and backwards. Thus, “Temporal Pincer Movement” literally defines itself 👍
I watched this 3 times and I'm still laughing at inverted shitting.
Or Vomiting
Well, obviously you sit on a toilet, a turd appears from beyond the U-bend and jumps up your butt, and then eight hours later you regurgitate a sandwich.
Red Dwarf called. They want their 1989 season opener returned.
"WW III nuclear holocost" gets me every time
@@jimbotcb3985 LOL
I love how he starts removing sins at 71 because its like reverting time like the movie
Also the timer starts going down as well.
I almost didn't NOTICE that for a sec
@@SeaGLGaming [[p[oo po o[[[o[opop
@@SeaGLGaming I dont see that, where does it start
or was it a joke?
Edit: nvm I found it it starts at 12:56
Then it constantly switches back and forth, like at 18:00
And it ends at 71
I love how cinema sins, pitch meeting, and honest trailers all had the same burning question: How inverted poop?
Holy crap this cinemasins video was more entertaining than I ever thought it would be - the sins going backwards, the timer itself, his reaction to the building unexploding and exploding at the same time LMAO
If UA-cam had a "play backwards" tool he could've included his voice itself also being played inverted HAHA (for viewers to have the option to listen to both the real thing and the inverted)
Me: Inception was confusing.
Christopher Nolan: reeb ym dloh
Wait for the beer glass to unbreak and ascend into your hand.
what happens if you incept a reversed person? Will your ex-wife still jump off a hotel room?
inception was confusing? compared to this inception was like 1+1 = 2 lmao. This was nolans most ambitious project ever. Maybe even too ambitious. Whatever , still very good movie though
I don't get how people think Inception was confusing. It is a pretty linear movie with a linear story. You don't jump back and forth in time. The only thing that could MAYBE ever considered to be somewhat confusing was how time worked between the layers of dreams, but since it was explained as simple and clear as "5 minutes is 1 hour" and blah blah, I don't really see any reason to be confused at all. I think some people just don't know how to watch a movie.
@@seckinaktunc r/iamverysmart
Michael Caine pronounced as “My Cocaine” killed me lmao
That was too much. 😂
It’s as funny as an accidental fart honestly
Honest Trailers has used this as well. It's a classic.
I was just realizing why nearly every movies have Sir Micheal plays some sort of old-man genius. Nope, every directors and screen-writer are addicted to cracks that's why they hired him lol. Sir Micheal have some deep pockets with stuffs.
As a non-native speaker, those 2 sound the same to me, haha
Its as if Nolan was upset too many ppl understood Inception, Interstellar and Memento, and decided to make Tenet
The "lady with all the equations" meme is actually Brazilian actress Renata Sorah, in the unforgettable role of Nazaré Tedesco, the main villain in the very popular Brazilian soap opera Senhora do Destino aka Lady of Fate.
wait that was not julia roberts??
@@NighteeeeeY I was thinking the same thing...
Thank you for the reference! I was wondering that
@@sanoban I know you're being sarcastic, but I appreciate the comment anyway 🤣
KSKDKSKDKDKDKDKDD BASED
As someone who plays Viola, I felt a new kind of pain seeing that opening scene.
Oh yes I gasped when the contrabass got whopped
Same! I also play the viola!
Speaking of that opening scene, there was a hostage crisis in a Moscow theater back in 2002, and I think that intro resonated with many people in Russia.
I've played the cello since elementary school off and on though. When I saw the string instruments being stepped on almost made lose my sh*t! Lol
@@BasfarThijsjewhat emoji is :D? Just curious
There's actually a nice theory about Sator's real employers:
So, Tenet is basically a paradox movie in which the past and the future affect each other mutually, with a table spoon of time loops.
The theory goes like this: Sator was wrong thinking he had been hired by some bad people from the future in order to assemble all the pieces of the algorithm and bury it in Stalsk-12 explosion. In fact, he was hired for this job by the Protagonist (from the future).
Think of it this way (keep in mind the paradoxical nature of the movie): the future version of the Protagonist was guiding the Sator from the past (using the instructions, buried in radioactive hot spots of the planet) to assemble the algorithm and send it into the future to the alleged 'bad people'. Yet the Tenet guys steal it from the hypocenter and keep it until the future Tenet guys (I'd say involving the 'Oppenheimer' scientist) revert it once again, so that the algorithm would travel back into the past. In the past, Sator is tasked by the Protagonist to assemble it and the whole thing starts over and over again.
This way, we get a closed time loop that reminds me of a 'hot potato' - the Algorithm is kept relatively safe within a specific period of time between some point in the past and some point in the future, where everyone does their predetermined job and the Algorithm travels back and forth in time so that no one could really get a hold of it and use it.
Wat?
uh.. yeah.. what he said.
The time travel is in real time, for them to go back, they have to sit in that container ship for weeks, months, years, and we never really know how old Neil is.
I love how at 13:03 after he says “I can’t be sure inverted time won’t effect this video somehow” he starts making the sun counter go in reverse! Then the sin counter goes back to normal temporarily at 16:31 for no reason then back to reverse at 17:19 then back and forth several times! I love this channel
16:31 was him mask-off indoors, that was after he went through the time turner and fought neil (who pulled off his mask earlier in the film), so he was going forward at that point. they were paying real close attention to what shots they used.
mind you I had to actually start typing out a reply to jog my memory of that scene enough
Yeah, they actually reverse-reverse the sin counter correctly during the films, and if you notice, when they removed a sin in reverse time, they added it.
20:37
His body was taken during the temporal pincer movement by the blue team. There is a short moment after the red team lands at stalzk-12 where the protagonist takes a glimpse at the returning blue team and sees 2 of them carrying a body (which is presumably the body of Neil).
This is my theory regarding the situation.
Naah guys
There was only 2 guys in there and they got out with the help of future Neil. The body on stretcher was way before the bomb blast, but when they 2 escaped using wire they didn't take the body with them.
Also to be honest there shouldn't be any skeleton coz the entire place gets blast 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
That would require the blue team to get into the cave somehow, which they pretty clearly don't do. Need to know basis and all that.
*We Live in a Twilight World*
Quick say the response code : "and we pledge our loyalty to team Jacob" just don't let Neil hear you
This had me dying lol 😆
This is one of those rare movies where it is literally too confusing to tell if it’s good or bad
@@Solmaz_S Yeah, I figured
It's either genius or a complete bs to make you think you're smart. I have not decided yet.
@@Solmaz_S Just because u don't understand it and don't try to doesn't mean its bad.
@@Solmaz_S nah they don't understand it because its too much for them which I get. But after looking into it and learning why things were happening the way they were happening, the film became 1000000 times better for me.
@@Solmaz_S it’s just a movie dude chill out lmao.
The "My cocaine" joke is severely underrated
This is the smartest comment about this movie review. Hope it doesn't get up other people's noses.
Yeah.
What? Where or when is that?
This movie was so confusing. Even for a time travel movie it was a whole nother level of crazy.
I'm guessing you haven't seen Primer yet?
🤣"Whole nother"... Maritime Canadian?
@@Tomfoolery1972 i do live on the canadian border 😆
@Bikal yeaaaa if i gotta watch a movie 20 times to understand it im good lol. Lets be real. it was a great idea, turned into a shit movie, not well thought out
And there are many flaws in this movie.. i cant watch this twice, to annoying...
Twelve minutes huh? Don't understand it
FEEL IT.
I would’ve loved to see Nolan try and explain all the parts to the rest of the film crew.
@@Solmaz_S dude this movie was awesome nonetheless come on
@@Solmaz_S This is a good movie, I mean the cinematography and music was just awesome. I didn't really understood the movie but I mean didn't dislike it.
The crew explained it to Nolan
@@edwardbrock3807 underrated comment lol
He already did on in on dee
17:25 The explosion itself doesn't end the world. It seals the algorithm (that can invert literally everything) for the future to eventually dig up.
"My greatest sin was to bring a son into a world I knew was ending"
Well, if you insist. ✅
Somehow this made me think how painful a reverse pregnancy would feel
@@homosapien7989 being inverted feels the same as being forward in time. For a inverted pregnant woman, the pregnancy and birth would feel no different. When inverted your perception is inverted as well.
@@cadman02 ..... what if a inverted with a noninverted though?
@@cadman02 omg thank you. Nobody in this video’s comments actually understands how “inverted” time was portrayed in the film. Just petty jokes based off this video.
Cinema sins’s a genius: “everything wrong with Tenet in 12 minutes”
Video proceed to be 24 min
*12min in regular time 12min inverted and they do the same for the sins
Bravo cinema sins bravo 👏 👏👏
except, after a point the sin counter just goes bunkers, adding and removing sins without a pattern, trust me i know, i've watched this video 4 fucking times. I think that was the ultimate gag, the fact that for this movie the Sin counter literally doesn't make sense, despite our expectations that it would considering that the title says "In 12 minutes" but the vid is 24min long. We expected that the first 12min is normal and the second is inverted, but it was our expectations that inverted in a sense cuz nothing after a point made any fucking sense
@@anasb.8647 I think the inversion could be concerning not only the sin counter but the very own mechanism of it, which means a sin gets removed but a removal gets sinned. I think that's why it appears sinning and removing randomly at the second part, but a very cleaver video nonetheless.
technically, it should be 18 forward and 6 reversed. If it was 12 forward and 12 backward, it'd be everything wrong with Tenet in 0 minutes
@@anasb.8647 i think if it goes forward or backwards is based on the person in that actual scene and in the end different people are in different states that we follow all at the same time which is why
@@IntegralKing Not with the logic of this movie, as the 12 minutes in either direction doesn't cancel out, they exist simultaneously.
“Can we just get to the unwrecking car already?”
"F*ck yeah"
Read this comment right when he said it
I love how you Teneted the sin counter and made it count backwards. Respect! 🤛
I thought CinemaSins made a mistake when the sins started going backwards.
Had to take it back fr
He starts removing sins and adding them though- like I was unaware of sarcasm or what scenes were actually inverted
Lmao...I thought...wait a min...wow😂😂😂
lol😅...genius😅
Yeah, I love that they did that!
Took me a minute to figure out that after the protagonist inverts in the 14 minute mark, the sins go backwards
12 mins
Having the movie sin timer move forward or backward depending on which direction the scene is moving is genius
10:45 according to movie there’s also a thing called entropy wind so if you see the seen backwards the mirror would seemingly get repaired hours after it was broken due to entropic wind (The mirror was fine in the past but according to future events it was broken to be repaired so mirror would actually break itself without any reason to match timeline) but from a normal perspective, first mirror was fine but it would start to break itself hours before the car chase and will get to the stage where it would stop itself breaking without any reason and then happens the car chase which repairs the mirror
20:31 as we know Tenet organisation knows everything which will happen even if it’s in past or future due to information manipulation shown in the movie but it may be possible that Tenet organisation’s few members came inverted to pick up Niel’s body to revert it into normal to get decompose. Because the leader of the organisation already knew Niel will die so he took his body so that his body can decompose like normally (not everything is shown in the movie but we have to under stand it)
2:00 the entropic wind explains this scene too. The bullet hole from a normal perspective wasn’t there at first but it started to appear few hours before even it was shot just so that it could repair itself when it was shot. When seeing this inverted : the Niel fires the shot and the entropic wind tries to reverse the effect of something inverted so it will slowly repair the chair and then it would be gone but the bullet would still be there and there are million explanations to why bullet was there.
Also
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This is genius!
The effect was the cause
What?
- Everyone who watched this movie and the CinemaSins on it
Nah, First half was What?
Second half was ahhhhh...what?
Jokes aside, they actually made a good job explaining it in the end, atleast i understood most of it
Here's a sin for you: Estonians and Ukrainians are completely different people
But if time were to rewind, the Soviet Union will reassemble itself with Kazkhstan as the reverse founder...
_...hmm._
@@meanwhileinthemindofagoril1343 i hope so
I am Estonian and that made me gasp. ONCE we have the chance to have an identity, people can know what Estonia is and who Estonians are... and we are called Ukranians. I think I'm going to cry.
@@zerochatless Fellow Estonian, welcome to the world, where for the Americans you are Ukrainians, and we are Russians)
@@Bud9989 I'm Estonian but I don't speak Russian (like the majority of Estonians), either way their mix up is offensive to everybody here
Tenet exist
Everyone: I’m so confused
Time: don’t ask me bro
Me hitting Read More over and over in frustration...
I'm barely 5 minutes into this video, and the only thing I can guess is that they're trying to prevent something happening by hitting some kind of quantum reverse button? 🤷♀️
@@caseyimiller same 😂😂
@@peanutbuttercookies84 the people in the future are reversing time so they can continue living by going back through time and overwriting it.
"lady with all the equations showing up on the screen" hahahahahaha
She's one of the greatest actresses in Brasil and I don't even know if I should sorry for bad English!
This made my entire week funnier. Thanks
Been waiting for this one for a while...
ME TOO
SAME HERE
I am waiting for him to do “
Everything Wrong With Vivarium”
I think I've been waiting since I saw the movie for this to come out! Maybe I was hoping it would give me some understanding on the stuff I was confused about...but nope. The only thing I learned was Aaron Taylor Johnson was in this movie! 🤣🤣🤣
um ok
Mind Screw: The CinemaSins Edition.
And since we're on the subject of mind-screwing, you guys should do Black Swan.
Black Swan would be very nearly Perfect. Blue as an original, live action movie. ;-)
@@alm2187 Did they do Mulholland Drive already? Can't recall
@@alm2187 I understood that reference
The "my cocaine" joke is incredible.
I believe that joke is about as old as Michael Caine himself ...
@@davideberhardt6150, it's still funny though.
@@JamesGilbert_ Oh yes, it absolutely is
When the blue and red teams are fighting invisible enemies, I was genuinely waiting for the reveal that they were pitted against each other for "temporal reasons".
You ever wonder why we're here?
@@TheOJDrinker It's one of life's great mysteries isn't it?
This is exactly the kind of movie that will break my brain for weeks and have me lying awake at night trying to wrap my mind around it all.
The biggest sin is the audio... Dialogue is barely audible, gets drowned out by music and sfx
I had no trouble in the cinema... did you watch it at home or did the Germans just mix the dub better?
@@dominikschindler2330 literally everyone has had problems with the sound mixing
At the cinema the audio was so fuckin loud, I had to cover my ears for a while.
Ugh i was watching this with my family and i literally could not understand what they were saying at times. I'd rather have no background music/audio than audio that drowns out the conversation.
@@dominikschindler2330 Dubs in Italy were fine too, i guess it's a problem with the original material
Regarding the whole reverse gravity thing - the big problem you're going to have with inverted time is Conservation of Momentum. When a person is inverted, they would still retain their original uninverted momentum. So, while all of us standing on the surface of Earth are travelling west to east at the same speed as the planet we're standing on, when you invert, the Earth is no longer going west to east - but you are. Depending on where you are at on the surface, the Earth is rotating at between 0mph and 1040mph. So let's say where you are, it's going 500mph. So when you invert, you're still going 500mph east, but Earth is now going 500mph west. So you're suddenly going 1000mph relative to the surface of Earth.
But it gets better - because Earth is revolving around the Sun - at about 67,000mph. So now you're revolving at 67,000mph around the Sun in one direction, and Earth is going the other way, for a total difference of 134.000mph.
But wait, there's more. The Sun is also revolving around the galactic core - at 514,000mph. And now you and the Sun are going in opposite directions in this regard as well, for a total 1,028,000mph difference.
And finally, the galaxy is moving away from the "center" of the universe at about 1,300,000mph. And now you're inverted relative to that as well, so you and the galaxy are parting ways at 2,600,000mph.
If you're lucky, you'll just shoot up into space at around 4 million mph and instantly burn to ash via friction. If you're unlucky, you'll smack into Earth at that speed and probably destroy the planet, Krypton-style.
Or, like the movie, you can just ignore all of that because cool visuals.
I mean its a magical revolving door, lets say its aborbs the momentum in terms of tachyons? also how was your last 10 months?
@@S1lentG4mer My last ten months have been pretty unexceptional. And yeah, the time reversion thing is basically magic because it makes no sense. The characters in the movie even say to not think about it too much.
Yeah, I agree with that. It was cool in the beginning with bullets coming back into the gun and such, but went straight to bullshit when they started talking about breathing special air that is also inverted. Pretty sure those masks were not watertight. Also, how were they talking to each other? If they speak through inverted air, then what happens outside the masks in the normal air? And what about air and humidity in contact with their skin? They should have kept the concept minimal and not dig too much into the mechanics of the whole thing until it starts caving in and turns into BS. Which could have been ignorable if they had a coherent, sensible story and characters, which they absolutely did not... Pity, I had high hopes for the movie, but to this day I feel irritated that I spent the time to go see it. And there are very few movies I regret seeing...
Bad math.
Well the whole idea is taking feynman diagrams to a human scale and as we know in Feynman believes that antiparticles travelled back in time. Although I have never heard of a positron upon creation travelling 4 bigillion miles away 😂😂
This movie had my brain hurting trying to understand what’s happening I understand the concept and end theory but how it works In relation to the movie it’s fucking wild
It's fine, you tried, but like most Nolan movies.... This movie sucks and you want to like it or have it make sense.
But in reality this movie is garbage. Just accept that and everything makes sense
I can't be anymore grateful that someone explained Kat's position during the Convoy ambush.
At first I thought you were just being generous with the sin removals until like the 4th one then I realized lmao
TLDR: shit happens. Then it unhappens.
Perfect 😂
Shit happens AND other shit unhappens at the same time until it converges on one very important moment.
Thanks for pointing out the „small“ big problems with the inversion, like the bullet hole in the opera, the dead body, the car getting wrecked by nothing and so on
Inception: I will make the most confusing movie out there!
Tenet: Hold my beer
Inception: Ummm, your mug is empty though...
Tenet: (Inverted beer drinking)
Inception: WTF bro! That’s gross!
This comment made my day. Thanks man!
Inception wasn't even remotely confusing. This movie was just stupid.
Your comment would have been way funnier and accurate if you reversed the order
I'm still trying to work out how inception is a confusing movie ??? Nothing about inception is hard to understand and is all explained in the movie, Dreams = slow time, More dreams in dreams = Slower time, Dreams are effected by the level above them... There's everything you need to know to understand inception
@@xproflipscarab It's not confusing, most people are just idiots.
1:58 they actually explain later in the film that the effects left by inverted objects such as the bullet hole are "pissing in the wind" with the wind being the normal forwards direction of time. Therefore, the bullet hole hasn't been there since the opera house was built. It probably started to slowly form a few hours or so before the siege.
Also the shell casings ejected should be lying there somewhere and nobody noticed
@Александр Андрющенко No consequence until they meet their trigger action. The cause is always before the consequence, for the inverted gunman, and the inverted pistol, the "pull the trigger" action is always like "regular shooting", forward in time, it's just weird for the non inverted people who are experienced the bullet going back in the pistol. It's just a matter of perception of the world, a feeling. The time always go from the past to the future, the people and their items are inverted through a time going forward.
@@mikebenson9423 Yeah that cause and effect thing was a misnomer. Cause even in this inversion thing is before effect.
@@johnnotrealname8168 yes ! Exactly ! But we need to precise : cause is before the effect from whom Point of view ?
When 2 trains travel at the same speed, from each point of view, they are motionless. But from the point of view of the cow in the field, the two trains moving at 300 km/h. The volocity is real, but the perception depend on who is experiencing it !
It's the same in Tenet : Like the velocity, the Effect of actions is always after the cause, but depending on who is watching and who is experiencing it, the perception is different.
So as a non-inverted person you have the perception, the real experience, of the bullet going inside the gun, but from the inverted point of view, the bullet is normal, going forward in time.
Relativity of time apply to action and consequence. It's brilliant. You feel like the cause is before the event, but it's already has happened ! The only thing that can change is the perception of a non inverted audience from the point of view of inverted people. Reality is about how we experienced it.
The opera being played there is the opera LULU, which itself is a palindrome, the second half is backwards.
AND..
the movie logos at the very start of the film are BLUE and RED.
‘People are not that easy to chloroform....so I’ve heard’ 😳😳😳 these dark nuggets of narrator back story are what keep me coming back 🤭😏🤔
16:46
Christopher Nolan is foreshadowing he's next movie "Oppenheimer" in this movie
Cinemasins: john david didn't even eat in this movie
Malcolm and Marie: I gotchu fam
I like that you used the reverse **ding!** when you sinned something and the regular **ding!** when you removed a sin. The true _Tenet_ experience.
EDIT: Okay, that ding-time fuckery in the last third of the video... touché.
Add the timer flip-floppiny for the last third of the video to that and it gives you the true Tenet fuckery experience!
After 24 minutes and Cinema Sins I still don’t understand this movie.
I forced myself to watch the whole movie- literally forced myself but as I paid a fiver what choice did I have? It was an hour too long and so convoluted it was barely making any sense. And music score was mastered in a wired way, too loud. Moan over...
I've just watched tenet and after I finished having my first ever epileptic fit I had to check out the sin count. This must have been a tough one to put together. Nice work cinemasins👍
I missed the sin that they constantly say “don’t think in linear terms”, while that’s exactly the way this movie approaches the concept of time
People experience time linearly, and we are watching the film from the protagonist's perspective, learning these things alongside him. How else would you propose the movie approaches it
@Landon Martin as far as we know there are infinite amount of TP walking around at any point in time.
Maybe you should take a jab at it. I'm sure you'll do much better with your mega sized brain
@Landon Martin you are so right. Toilet Paper is sometimes in the present, sometimes in the past.
I love how they took sins off when the protagonist was inverted. GENIUS!!!
The sin counter going backwards after the Protagonist goes through the turnstile is genius 👌🏼
Time?
Honestly the biggest sin for me was the 1 dimensional ‘trapped woman and mother’ character. I don’t even remember her name but there’s this bit where they tell her if her husband dies the whole universe will be destroyed and never have existed, and she just says something like ‘that means my son will too!’ Like omg stfu
I know right
So fk'in true, she sounds selfish as fk and she has the nerve to call the main protagonist selfish.
Also that she had literally ONE job to do to help stop the world from ending and purposely doesn’t do it, then casually says “I knew you’d figure it out”
@@TokyoBlue587 oh god that was the worst part. The classic ‘I’m so emotional and reckless but I knew you’d save the day!!’ Disgustangggggg
IFKR I literally had to pause the movie to laugh cause no one gives a shit about your son if the WHOLE world is ending
_Lmao halfway through the review he starts reversing the sins instead of adding them, I loved that so much following tenet logic_
Even after watching this I've no clue what this movie is about.
@@JamesMatthewGallagher you are definitely in the minority if you didnt like it
That Airplane reference was outstanding!
First time I watched it, it actually made a surprising amount of sense; more than enough for me to understand...
then I started thinking about the science and logic behind things and my head hurt. Just think about this: that final pincer attack from the perspective of the forward time people would look as if the battle field was already there because the inverted people are already there, and they would have to go into battle some time before the inverted people because they can coordinate attacks like bombs. Plus they would see dead inverted people come back to life, meaning they know what is going to happen to the person before they die. And all the damage is being repaired due to inversion, so they can see the aftermath of explosion, meaning that could change what they do, and there for paradox. All the damage done by the inverted people will forever go into the past. From the inverted people's perspective, they would have to arrive later that the normal people in order to attack at the same time, and the place would already be damaged from the forward people. Every above applies to the inverted people as well. All this to say this: 1- the battlefield will be destroyed infinitely: it was built destroyed, and it was destroyed again. How could something already destroyed be destroyed again? And 2nd: from the normal people's perspective, after an inverted is brought back to life because reversed time, and walks backwards into the time turning machine: what happens? After they come out unreversed, they aren't reversed anymore, so do they go into the machine again? That would cause an infinite loop. See what makes things so complicated?
The inverted soldiers in the pincer movement would have to wait until after the battle is over, to leap into their turnstile and be reversed, to then fight backwards in time through the attack that just happened. Which seems pretty daft if you even think about it slightly, as you're basically wasting half of the army "sitting on their hands" and waiting until afterwards to invert themselves, rather than just sending everyone in to attack as one big group and having an even greater numeric superiority over Sator's men.
Your second question makes no sense. If you observe an inverted person walking backward into a turnstile, their un-inverted past-self will be simultaneously entering the other half of the turnstile, and they will both seemingly vanish "into the past". (Think about when sator enters turnstile at freeport after car chase).
If that same person un-inverted in THEIR future, then a third instance of them will also exist in the observers time frame.
That hurt my head just by reading this
I can't imagine all the research you had to do to understand this movie this much
17:40, missed one: the team that is inverting here is doing so too early. As soon as you invert you are going backwards, so in order for them to be going backwards through the final battle they would need to invert *after* the battle takes place. If they invert on the ship they're just going backwards to the time when the ship took off, not inverting and preparing to go through the battle.
But it could already by history for the people inverting
The people coming out of the inverter are in a red hallway, and protag and Kat still have to use use masks and a sealed air supply. It looks like the soldiers are inverted and are reverting for the battle. This suggests it is the night before the battle (maybe inversion is at midnight/early morning), the soldiers are switching the forward time and will fight later in the day.
Neil "already gone through" is weirder, it would save inversions if the inverted guys just left the ship during the day of the battle and reverted later, but it is possible they decided to uninvert everyone, than have the blue guys wait around and invert again just to make some sort of organization easier. (Or Neil did just leave to join the battle directly and him no being there is because he died, but than protag has no reason to think he would have gone through the inverter.)
12 minutes when it's really 21 minutes...
Me, an intellectual: That math doesn't add up
I'm more concerned that he did a ad for better help
@@topnotchcupoftea why concerned
Veritas_Prince of Truth (2007) (English Movie) what movie name plz
It was a typo
@@brandonmunsen6035 there was some drama with better help
18:17 Yeah, where are all the "bad guys"?! This was the most glaring oversight imo. I was so confused. "WHO ARE THEY SHOOTING AT?!"
Something tells me that CinemaSins liked this movie...
Yup, at 14:22
Why is this guy trying to explain this movie?!?!
You have to FEEL IT
Veritas_Prince of Truth (2007) (English Movie) what movie name anyone
Here's a fun fact, if you spell "Tenet" backwards you get "Fix your goddamn sound mixing Mr. Nolan".
'But the songs are so coooooool'
Seriously nonstop complaints about the sound in all his movies going back to inception.
This one also had dumb asf image formatting that didn’t fit any theater screens naturally
I heard everything perfectly lol. But I gotta say I only watched in English at home on blue ray
Why do so many have a problem with the sound? Im a german and had only once or twice trouble understanding them, thats it
@@eiskohl8575 it’s the sound mixing that’s awful. Constantly getting complaints about ONLY Nolan films at the theater
Number 68 about the car mirror actually really has me thinking
" Do you run around the world seeing if you can Yoda objects into your hands?" XD
Inverting the sins at that point was the greatest thing ever done, EVER!
I’m surprised that you didn’t add a sin for the movie being ear splittingly loud
It’s like how you rarely notice it when you lose both of your socks but always notice it when lose just one. When the important and powerful object of a story is destroyed in the first place, there wouldn’t be a story of preventing it falling into the wrong hands, cos it doesn’t exist anymore.