Tenet Explained: The Biggest WTF Questions Answered
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- Tenet Explained: The Biggest WTF Questions Answered. We answer what the Algorithm is, what the Opera scene set up, who the scientist is, why The Protagonist fired at himself in the Airport Corridor fight, what happened after the ending and a lot more.
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Welcome to the Heavy Spoilers show I'm your host Paul aka the guy whos not backwards in coming forward and tomorrow I'll make the Tenet Video that you're watching right now.
Since August I've done a tonne of videos on the movie and I've compiled the most asked questions to clear up any confusion over the film. This includes why the future version of the Protagonist shot at himself, what the Algorithm is, why Kat didn't need a mask on the boat and a lot lot more
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With that out the way, thank you for clicking this, now let's get into the breakdown.
Ok so Tenet opens with an Opera scene that pretty much throws you into the movie at the deepend. But what exactly is going on here?
Well on the surface it seems like The Protagonist is part of a CIA operation to infiltrate the Opera during a siege so that he can secure the algorithm. This fails and instead he's drafted into the TENET organisation after being double crossed, having his teeth pulled out and also choking down on what he believes is a cyanide pill.
Sounds like my kinda night at the Opera.
But what exactly was going on here, well The Protagonist was actually given this intel by the future version of himself and this was so that he could not only ensure that he handed the Algorithm over to Sator but also make it so that he not only met Neil, but also showed he was willing to lay his life on the line.
Before the finale we learn from Ives that the splinter team mission is meant to be one that nobody returns from. Ives even says that they can't afford having anyone left alive who knows what the algorithm is and the fact that the protagonist takes the pill shows that he's willing to lay down everything if needs be.
Now why the future version made sure that Sator got a piece of the algorithm is hinted at by Priya who refuses to change telling his past version about where the algorithm is.
Do try and keep up.
She says that they actually need Sator to bring all of the pieces together so that they can then snatch them and then split them up. The entire point of the finale is to trick Sator into believing that his mission in burying the Algorithm is successful so that his future version won't change anything and will continue collecting the pieces in order to bring them together and carry out the plan that will allow the algorithm to be stolen.
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Trying to invert myself to go back and pronounce Ives correctly
The protagonist touched to algorithm, he was destined to collect them
@90s Born guys...I just came across electric dreams...and I can't believe I JUST came across it. It's really good if you want to binge watch a sci-fi show. So little people are talking about it, it's insane.
If that universe exists, we don't live in it.
In the airport scene forward stabs reverse and effect of it continues to the future but if he had shot reverse instead of stab the effect would be totally different and what causes this difference in effect of stab and shot even though bullet and knife moves forward through the body
Looool
I don't know how many times I've said "I finally get it" and then got confused again
sounds like me in maths
same. SAME. Its worse than Inception honestly
@@sakasusuk Neil's the spinning top of this movie
Don't try to understand it ,,,feel it,
@@sakasusuk Yeah. Inception was far less puzzling than Tenet.
I think Nolan is a mad man for even coming up this whole concept. I would've loved to be in the room where Nolan explains it to everyone lol
😂😂😂 and watch the looks on those actors faces when they heard it for the first time 😂😂😂
well, this concept also exists in physics :))
“So... imagine two worlds, right, forwards and backwards, then they meet. Pow, conflict, and something about the world ending. Radical, dudes.”
I don’t think it’s the concept that is mad. It’s the fact he could actually execute it and execute it well.
@@whengrapespop5728 loool
I recently got a hold of Chris Nolan and asked him these questions. He just kept repeating himself. "Let me go" . "Get off me" "who are you?". I think it relates to the protagonist having to let go of someone he doesn't know yet
😂😂😂
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That actually makes sense
That woman in the white coat is not the scientist who invented the reverse entropy of Bullet....
She is just assigned to that project....that's it....
@@HarshaHarshG-tb3pu lol you copy and paste everywhere and yet you still don't get any interactions with your stupid take. You can't disagree with an opinion like it's a fact.
I can’t wrap my head around how Nolan wrapped his head around this. It’s one thing to understand a specific concept intuitively, but to create a coherent story is mad
Coherent?
@@booooooooooooop2172 it's coherent, yes.
yeah you can tell Nolan thought about it for a long time, I read he thought up the concept over 10 years before he made the movie - or did he make the movie so that he could think up the concept 🤔
He really got into the science of time travel with interstellar. Also deals with time and non linear storytelling his whole career.
@@solgouki84 so coherent that 99/100 people didn't follow the story in the cinema and had to go home and watch videos like this
Nolan's making a trilogy, and we've just seen the final film from it.
O no..o no..o no no no..mind blast..
I just figured after watching it again love this movie
He's making a trilogy of this movie?
Technically you could view Interstellar as a sequel to Tenet. Interstellar is in the future where the earth is dying, so instead of killing the past they leave to a new planet.
Naw Cuz, this was the middle film. Interstellar was the final film. The first film is yet to come.
Murph was the female scientist generations in the future who discovered the algorithm.
Tenet has most people's minds going backwards. Inception was relatively more understandable
I really don't know why people didn't understand or think inception was confusing. Understood that movie on the first watch.
@@musefan2990 not only did inception spend a lot of time explaining itself, it also showed various characters reacting to the events in a way that showed viewers how they should react; tenet doesn't really do either of those.
@@jplawrence3 I agree totally. I do think tenet is confusing as hell. I'm merely saying for that reason and just it's fairly simple in comparison to tenet plot. I u derdtood it on the first viewing
@@jplawrence3 And I like Tenet better because it doesn't waste too much time explaining itself.
@@danielsmithiv1279 agree, understanding the movie by yourself feels more fun and better than letting the movie explain itself
I've always got the impression that TENET's philosophy on fate is, "If you don't know the outcome, you can change it" or that if you feel as though life is pre-destined, you feel less likely to take the necessary actions to change the world.
This is why Tenet keeps its agents ignorant of the future - they may be less likely to take their own initiative.
I think that's exactly right. I don't think the movie is ultimately fatalistic. Interstellar relied on relativity for it's physics-based plot points. I think Tenet is inspired by quantum mechanics. If they don't know what actually happened/will happen, events only exist as probabilities and they still have freedom to change the outcome.
Hmm that’s really interesting. I always go back to the inverted bullet example at the “beginning”. Think about it, Protag never shoots that bullet into the rock, yet the inverted bullets behaves as if he did...
@@drbeanut Not him, the gun. Doesn’t matter who holds it, that gun has fired forward before, and it will go back into the chamber when reversed.
@@alexman378 They never make it clear if that gun shot that bullet. Could be any inverted gun reverse-shooting any inverted bullet. Either way, there is someone pulling the trigger.
My theory is that temporal scope of instinctive action includes both some of the past and the future. Truly from the Protag’s POV it is his imaginative conception of shooting the gun that appears to cause the reverse-firing.
@@drbeanut It can’t be any other gun. Bullets don’t fly on their own, they need to be fired from something. If that specific gun didn’t shoot that bullet, then it wouldn’t be there.
It didn't even occur to me that Protagonist is still in the windmills when the ship passes it by; I knew it was a callback, but I didn't realize it was a full-on revisit.
Past Protagonist: *Leaves his cabin and runs into Present Protagonist*
Present Protagonist: Who let you leave? Do you know how dangerous it could be if we meet?
Past Protagonist: I had ordered my hot sauce an hour ago.
Oh, shit, right. When the Protagonist, Neil, and Kat were in the reversing ship going back to the 3-event day, the past version of the Protagonist was still in one of the windmills doing his routines.
@@Rougarou99 It's been 2 years and I'm still confused about one thing: Who walks into a restaurant and orders "just hot-sauce" first thing sitting down? And why is that a normal thing to go to the chef to complain about?
@@samwallaceart288 I doubt the Protagonist seriously ordered hot sauce, but rather was just making a jape with Sator's men.
Otherwise, maybe he just wanted to be certain the restaurant didn't forget his hot sauce if he ordered it with his food.
@@Rougarou99 But it's still a weird thing to say even as a joke.
I walked out of my room backwards to confuse my mom.
Hahhahaha
The absolute madman
She already was inverted and knew you would do that. She inverted to trick you. You got temporal pincered!
@CARPAINTANNY
sony
@@mikvance lol
The intro was gold lol
Haha thanks
@@heavyspoilers Unsubscribed lol
Definitely threw me off haha 😂
I hope to win one =) Love the Tenet videos you've been producing.
"tomorrow I'll make the Tenet video you're watching right now" 😆
I've never been as bamboozled by a movie, like I was with Tenet. I like it when movies take a risk, but even this movie was beyond my reach. I've seen the movie twice, I've watched some of these explanations, and I believe that only a very few can watch the movie just once and understand everything.
It's not a riddle or a test. It's a badass heist movie where they get the thing they were trying to get, and they do it in the most baller way possible, with Denzel Washington's son hanging off the side of firetrucks with that dude from that vampire pedophile movie, but he's actually really good to. It has re-watchability to be sure where you can get more out of it the more you watch it, doesn't mean you didn't understand the first time.
Me: understand the whole thing
You don't have to understand everything completely though. But in reality, it's not that hard to understand it.
It's pretty straightforward to me don't get the complexity pple are ranting about,but it needs maximum concentration
watch 2 more times and a couple of these explanation videos and you'll be set! No joke.
By far one of the best adaptation of a time travel movie. The movie got mixed reviews, but I think after a few years go by it’s going to be looked back on as a masterpiece. I’ve also had the thought that this concept would work incredibly well as a TV show.
Agree
Same. Just like when ‘Inception’ was released lots of my friends didn’t like it at first, but now we all love it
A different concept - but have you seen the TV show Dark?
i can absolutely understand why it get mixed review, if i didnt take time to understand a lot of part of the moview i would totally give it low rating. but now this is atleast 9/10 for me
I hope nolan leaves this universe alone as it would cheapen it. It ended where it should - leaving us wanting more.
Also after reading the script.... the reason that the inverted protagonist was shooting at the window was also to kill time... as he is waiting to see himself run backwards into the turnstyle so he can continue going through. You see him look over into the window a few times during that scene. Remember, if you dont see yourself exit the turnstyle you dont go in.
I went back and watched the fight again after i read your comment and your completely right! Thanks for the info
Another reason i think he shot the window was because while he is shooting the window you can see that he is sliding towards the time machine while he does it so that he can escape
@@destroyallbacteriad.a.b9007 yup, because he already knows how the fight is going to go; since he already lived through it the first time!
I don't care about why the protagonist shoots, but rather how the window had bullet holes the whole time until the inverted bullets "repaired" the damage. Are we to believe that at the glass factory, sheets of armored glass were sent to the Oslo vault and installed with bullet strikes already in them? When the concrete was poured at the Opera house, were the bullet holes already there? How far back in the past do inverted things affect the non-inverted world around them?
@@kev3d that's more or less ok until you start thinking about the entire half of the building that was hit by a reverse missile, so it had to lie in rubble for the eternity until it is hit at last to become a complete building. Now who and how can build something like that? And what kind of existence it goes though after it was hit?
I'm gonna watch TENET yesterday
It was a great movie
*will be xD
@@DVSS77 that ruins the fucking joke you 8 year old
Same here
Blue team?
It's still in post-prod not out… it's too late 😉
You would have been able to see it before you even know about it.
So when Neil said "This is the end of a great friendship for me but it's just starting for you" he knew he was about to take a bullet so the mission could be completed but he also knew that the protagonist would go to London to save Kat and run off with her and start a friendship with her son Max who is Neil. Whew 🤪
max better become neil lol
This reminds me of Season 4 of Doctor Who wherein the Doctor sees the beginning of his relationship with River as she sees the end.
max is not neil ffs..
@@henrik1743 I think it's implied "Neil" might not even be his real name. If we accept this premise we can't deny nor confirm whether or not Neil is Kat's son.
@@henrik1743 you're absolutely right. People ignore how time travel works in this story. To go 20 years into the past you have to live those 20 years. For Neil to be max he's have had no life to actually live and do anything
The reason why he shoots at himself is precisely because he knew there were bullet holes there already. When he becomes inverted, he fires the gun as if it was already predetermined. The movie plays with the idea of cause and effect and how either way you look at it, both events are tied to each other in a two-way relationship.
So to have made those shots predetermined the original protagonist would have had to shoot at himself in that fashion, but would he be shooting at his future self again? This creates an endless repeat of the same events because now the protagonist is fated to fight himself in that same fashion. The protagonists first official time going through that room wouldn't be the same as the one we are shown because this first protagonist hasn't time traveled to create their fated interaction, so basically there has to be a scenario where he shot the glass in that same way, which is weird because he wouldn't be shooting at his future self.
And what if he decided maybe I should not shoot at myself. Was his trigger finger being controlled or predetermined. He knew that was himself yet he fought himself. There is a paradoxical element to this but I guess for movie purposes we let this go.
Which is why free will is an illusion
The bullet holes weren't already there. That logic is if you are firing ammunition which is inverted from your perspective. When he fires he and the bullets are traveling in the same direction through time so that was an active choice on his part.
@@Kibbelingg if time travel exists*
Marvel: We have multiple timelines.
Tenet: Hold my turnstiles.
LOL
This was exactly how I tried to explain this movie to my 10 & 12 year old kids lol.
Matrix: im the most convoluted sci fi movie
Tenet: It hasn't happened yet
That joke never gets old...
@@OrenTubing The most convoluted stories are the best.
Congratulations to Tenet 2 for winning the Oscar, can’t wait to watch Tenet in theatre.
Blue team?
its a pincer attack
lol
Ha ha
Thanks for helping me sleep with the lame joke
Imagine we get a sequel set (blank) years in the future, and the Protagonist is played by Denzel Washington
Lol no
Holy shit. I wouldn't mind that.
@@GrimmshiOfficial That would be interesting though
Denzel would be good in the cast for Tenet 2
But Denzel looks nothing like him
Another thing that occurred to me. Once someone goes back in time they're stuck there forever in the Tenet universe. Both regular time and inverted time occur at 1x. And there's no apparent way to "fast forward" either. So Neil, for example, is trapped in the past permanently and can never get back to his correct (for lack of a better description) point in space/time. Every time he goes backwards, upon de-inverting, he's only moving forward a 1x again like everyone else. This means he's effectively replicating himself every time he inverts, and is existing in the past with himself permanently. If he went back a day, there would be two of him. Neil before he traveled back in time, or Neil A, and Neil B that's a day behind. If Neil B waited a day and went back a day again there would be three Neils in the timeline. Neil A, and Neil B and Neil C, both of which would be occupying Neil A's present. But Neil B and C are now stuck at that point in forward moving time forever. They can go backwards, but they cannot go return to their "correct" time, as that would require being able to travel forward at 2x, 3x or 4x, etc., to catch back up.
If I'm not being clear enough imagine driving along side another car on the highway. Both of you are traveling in one direction at 60 mph which is your maximum speed. You pass a restaurant and decide you'd like to go back there and eat. You stop, turn around, and go in the opposite direction of the other car as it continues traveling forward. When you get back on the highway you will never catch up to the other car again. Both of you can only go 60 mph, and you're now behind it, permanently. That's Neil. He will never "catch up" to his original time.
There was also a period where Kat couldn't be with her son because there were two of her. She had to wait until her past self went back in time creating a permanent gap for present Kat (relative to her) to fill. If she went back too far she'd basically never be able to be with him again, as past Kat would still be there (until she went back in time creating the gap for future Kat to fill).
Think of it like a long straight string and you’re just putting a loop in it, but then once you travel along the loop it just straightens back out. While you’re in the loop there are two of you, and it looks like you’re travelling backwards from the other guys POV, but really you’re just going the same direction on the string. Then once you get to the end of the loop your past self goes into the loop and you are back on the straight line. So even when it looks like they are in front of you they would still be behind you on the string. And they always will be. Your string will always be the same length but every loop you put in it shortens how far it will reach if you compare it to some imaginary master string. So going back one day means that your life will end two calendar days sooner, but you’ll still live the same amount of days from your perspective. So every loop makes the strings ultimate distance covered shorter and you can never make it longer. You can never travel to a future you would not have otherwise seen.
I understood this but also not at all haha
@@murrayrothtard6072 which is very sad, because Neil has to abuse time mechanics a ton in order to win the pincer manuever in the end of the movie, just how harrowing it is to keep running through the same loop trying to get everything right shows why no one else keeps duplicating themselves on the timeline, Neil truly was raised to be unique and he sacrificed the most for the success of the mission.
@@luizcastro5246 also frustrating that you can go back in time, but you still only have basically one shot to get it right. You can’t fuck up and then just go again and knock your old self out of the way and do it right this time. He sacrificed with no guarantee of success.
@@murrayrothtard6072 true, true
This is my second time seeing the movie, tomorrow is gonna be the first.
😂
On a serious note what would happen if you inverted a disc and play it?
@@dogwater5499 Elaborate on "inverted"
@@B3B3TTER 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Followed by never
Nolan: Yes.
Audience: Sooo, how badly do you plan to mess with our brains in 'Tenet'?
I reread this and I realized the genius in this comment.
It's backwards.
Sey
?'teneT' ni sniarb ruo htiw ssem ot nalp uoy od yldab woh, ooooS
@@medilies Someone's feeling blue :D
420iq
When you *almost* understand something from Tenet but then an ad for Doordash or Weathsimple breaks your concentration 😭😭😭
Laughs in adblocker
laughs from the future@@number_8903
Great video. For all Tenet's flaws, it is such a stylish and cool movie. I hope it will be talked about for decades, cause I think it deserves to be. Hats off to Nolan on this one, and thanks for explaining a couple parts I had questions about (most of the movie).
I don't think there are any flaws. Tell me a few.
This video was featured in UA-cam Rewind last year
Loooool
Hey thats pretty clever :)
@@heavyspoilers ....and loooooL
No it was featured in UA-cam Rewind next year lol
@@captiveraptor8207 no you didn't get it
Just to clarify something at the beginning of the film. Yes, the Protagonist IS part of a CIA task force trying to recover the Artifact but he doesn't know it at the time. From his point of view, his objective is to rescue a compromised CIA agent as well as secure what he believes to be plutonium. It's only later in the film that he discovers the true nature of the Artifact.
THANK YOU!! I was starting to wonder if I was the ONLY person watching this (after watching the movie, of course) who was intelligent enough to realize that!
I was starting to worry LMFAO
Or...... _earlier in the film_
He literally sent himself through his contacts in the CIA.
@@kevinxsavagegm pretty much
@@kevinxsavagegm I'm trying to pick up who he was always talking to on the phone (India scenes). Someone else was credited as the voice over but that someone could have also played the protagonist but from the future. That could he a reason why he doesn't have a backstory! That's because his backstory is in the future. He went back in time.
I rewatched this movie a lot since its VOD release. Although I understood enough upon three theater viewings, having the subtitles on make the movie WAY BETTER because you can catch small lines of dialogue that explain things in the movie.
Absolutely. So glad I bought it on Blu-ray.
Almost one year later.. i watched this movie like 50 times ( no joke ) and every goddamn time feels like its new. The best movie for me. Hats down !
I feel the same, I only saw it for the first time a few weeks ago but I've seen it 4 times since. I feel like I want to watch it again as soon as it's over.
You're not pushing the poop, you're pulling it. Tenet-style.
😆
😂😂😂😂
i thought about that when i went to the toilet after seeing the movie xddddddd
Poop jokes eeeeee! very funny, you're so smart, how did you come up with this????
I am in the toilet as I read this comment
So did Protagonist ever get his hot sauce? wtf
Loooool
That's a plot hole right there. Trash movie!
what is this in reference to?
@@Alex-ll4mc When he's confronted by Sators thugs in the kitchen. "I've been waiting an hour for my hot sauce" or something to that effect.
@@Milan-db3uy haha!
The script explains why the future reverse Protagonist was firing the gun at his past forward self, it was to scare the past self to get closer to the turn style so he could safely enter it. Why? Because if he enters the turn style without seeing his self reverse entering on the other side of the "proving window" he will die, or as Ives says "not getting out". Reading the script clearly shows that through the fight the Protagonist was checking the Proving Window to see himself entering on the other side, but struggling with fighting his past self who would not let him get close to it. He fired shots at his past self to get closer to the turn style, and once he saw himself reverse entering it on the other side of the Proving Window, he jumped into the turn style to make sure he can get out on the other side.
Ives: "If you don't see yourself (through the Proving Window) reverse-exit the machine, you won't be getting out".
That makes no sense. He can't 'scare his past self to get closer to the turnstile' by firing the gun because any reaction from his past self to the gunshots (or from his past perspective, bullets flying into the gun from the glass) would come BEFORE the gun was fired from the inverted perspective. AKA from inverted's perspective any reaction his past self would have to the gunfire has already happened, when they were further away from the turnstile.
As you can see in the scene, the actual result of his past self being scared by the gunfire is him stabbing his inverted self, which has already happened from the inverted perspective.
@@TKGriffiths My mans you're reacting to a 2 year old comment. From what I can tell there are actually three probable answers for the question:
1. What OP meant: The Future Protagonist, here on referred to as 'Inverted Protagonist", by shooting at his past self, here on referred to as 'Forward Protagonist', is making Forward Protagonist cautious of the gun in lieu of the aftermath (beforemath?) of the gun's use (bullet holes in the glass, dismantled gun, smoke) rather than actually REACTING to the gunshots themselves in real time. This will assist inverted in entering the turnstiles and leaving Inverted Time.
2. The Causality answer: as his past self, he knew he shot those holes, he had to shoot them so that the future (or inverted's Protagonist's past) would stay the same. Or, in the case that the future and past are irreversible, as is heavily implied, he's TRYING to keep true to the Inverted Protagonist's path in hopes that he already 'got out' and that it's easier to accept the events of both Forward and Inverted time if he tries to follow the actions he's already seen before... effectively trapping himself for no reason other than comfort. Regardless of whether he wanted to stay on track or not, he would. By choosing to dismantle the gun, he chose to undismantle it. By choosing to follow the path, the path was already made. As for why the path ACTUALLY exists? Why does Inverted Protagonist shoot himself, for real? Probably 3... which is then because of 1. And thus OP redeems himself.
3. The Panicked reaction answer: The Forward Protagonist was trying his best to PUSH the gun away in Forward Time, thereby PULLING the gun towards himself in Inverted Time, while the Inverted Protagonist wanted to do his best to push and shoot AWAY from the Forward Protagonist (probably because of 1?) thereby making it feel like Inverted is pushing and shooting TOWARDS the Forward Protagonist in Forward Time. What to do if you can't pull it away? Shoot, to scare him. He can't react though because if he was scared by the shots, he'd be scared before (in Inverted Time) you could get the gun pointing towards him... or after (In Forward Time) you shot him, for Inverted Protagonist Forward would be spooked the further away both of them are from the turnstiles thus making the attempt futile. Refer back to 1: Scare him with the bullet holes in the window and the dismantled gun that have yet to be in Inverted time but ALREADY HAVE BEEN in Forward Time. This is probably the emotional moment-to-moment reason, thus being the leading one - they were both trying to push away, so to each other they were trying push in. This is then followed closely by 2 as being Inverted's self-soothing technique against Inverted Time, and 1 being his best attempt at escaping Inverted Time.
I wish that they would’ve included more conversations between Sator and the future as to how he built his wealth and his convoluted ideology and his and Priya’s knowledge of the future in such detail
my future self who eventually understands TENET will invert to explain to my present self
You mustn't because of direct contact!!
You won't understand as he will speak backwards
Unless you reinvert yourself back again. Then there is 2 of you running around
The universe might explode!
I will watch the movie for the 2nd time today. Will watch it for 1st time tomorrow.
!!aHaH
Whoever had the mental capacity to understand, write, shoot, and edit all of this movie in it’s entirety is either a goddamn genius or clinically insane. Maybe both.
I'm sure he had help, but he spent 10 years coming up with it.
They explain the whole "why did the protagonist shoot at himself" thing in the dialog. It's because the fram num fdsl f klsdjf fdg muffle flumflum nthng nthng smthng smthng fribble t gluss. Just like they say in the movie.
Underrated
@@gtdmg489 please translate this i just finished the movie for the first-time and have soo many questions
"Tenet" was a total mindfuck and l enjoyed every second of it.
@Holger H. How old r u.
@Holger H. I think the word you’re looking for is “fuck mind”
idk... if I didn't't understand a single bit while watching it, I wouldn't enjoy it tho
@@mitriul1692 exactly
@@AhmedKathiri Yeah lol I've seen this reply everywhere
I enjoyed this movie a lot. The soundtrack is really good. I tend to like all of Nolan’s movies anyway.
That's a pretty big understatement, the music was fantastic
Word meaning of music is changing... New music is just synthesized sounds and fx... John Williams, where are you? 😭
No one have problems with the sound? I found it took a lot away from the dialogue. Kind of distracting
@@hamisheginet I love John Williams but his style of orchestrated music just wouldn’t have worked in this movie
@@01bigtrev most people had a big problem with the sound, cause they couldn't hear people talking, for me it was normal heard everything but i watched it on my PC not in theaters
Thanks for helping us learn more about Tenet! Absolutely love this movie! In my book, this was the best movie in the sci-fi genre for 2020, or whenever it came out. Although they might not always provide as much instant gratification upon viewing, movies that operate outside the box of normal screenwriting and push the bounds of possibilities are what film is all about! Thanks again!
I loved this film because I literally wrote about time travel (what they call inversion is what I counted as time travel) for a uni essay. The reason they have to see themselves exit the turnstile is because, if they really are about the enter it, that must mean that they’d be able to see themselves coming out. If you enter, you come out the other side. But since you come out the other side BACKWARDS in time from the original perspective, you must already be able to see yourself coming out as you’re about to go in.
The reason this is so confusing is that this creates a kind of circular causation, where the reason you enter is because you see yourself exit, which means the reason you exit is because you already saw yourself exiting. But there’s actually nothing conceptually wrong with circular causation like this.
" nothing conceptually wrong with circular causation like this."
possibly because they already intended to enter before they ever saw themselves, seeing themselves exit is simple verification rather than a cause.
The female scientist at the start couldn’t be the same one who creates the algorithm in the future, Priya tells the Protagonist that she created it ‘generations’ in the future, meaning she would have to at least be the grandchild of the present generation in the film, at the earliest.
duhhh
Well not exactly
by conventional means by which I mean just the revolving doors, yes she couldn't do that since she would've needed to live hundreds of years meaning she would either have to speed up time around her or slow it down. BUT that has been proven possible in the actual physical world. Anytime an object speeds up relative to another object it's been shown it will experience less passing of time relative to the object that was stationary. Basically, if you go fast enough, like say the speed of light, you will basically slow down time around you. This makes the theory very plausible since this is the future and could possibly have FTL or close to FTL travel, especially since they've already basically discovered time travel. Another more boring idea tho is that since she's from the future they have the ability to extend her life by hundreds of years
I was thinking the same thing. Far more likely is that her research was used by the future scientist as the starting point for their work that eventually ended with the invention of the algorithm.
@@stix5078 My guy(or girl), you're going way outside the realm of the movie with that. The theory about future medicine extending her lifespan is forgivable, however inapplicable, but the FTL/Relativity theory is a whole machination outside of the film's context. Sure it may be possible in the real world, but unless it is written about or implied within the movie, it may as well not exist.
Yeah, but Priya does not know the exact future. She just knows that the tenet technology is created in the future. It could totally still be the same scientist. She would keep researching the inversion and an inverse of her will probably come back and help her finish it. I don't think generations ahead would be a good guess at all, because that could have been bad affects. We know that Neil inverses a few years and we have to assume that's the longest someone can inverse without it being too harmful.
Tenet is Chris Nolan going full Chris Nolan.
His movies are smart enough to pick your brain, but still entertain a mass audience.
With Tenet, he decided he has this level of trust from his audience. He made the film he wanted to make. And still scored $20 mill domestic in one weekend, kneckdeep in a pandemic.
I saw it 3 times during the panda
his movies are not smart. He illustrates pagan doctrines that we, the masses, do not learn about, in school or on tv.
think about all those Tv shows clogging your mind with "black holes, dark matter". Not a word about the Germanic pantheon, or Egyptian pantheon.
Sator is Saturn, the god of time, father of gods, god of harvests, the reaper, killer of his children. His son has to defeat him, to avoid being devoured.
just start reading about pagan religions and you'll see Nolan's movies for what they are: reheated fast food
This is Chris Nolan going full Nalon Sirch
I think Tenet pushed against the limit of trust for a lot of people though. Not me as I like to dwell on movies and shows, and re-watch if it tickles my brain. But for many it’s one and one.
I guess that’s why sandwiched it with Dunkirk and Oppenheimer lol.
@@jddang3738 I loved Tenet but I agree with you.
It's difficult to defend a movie that's not really accessible and I really don't blame anybody for not liking it.
gotta admit the completely straight delivery of 'pls click the thumbs down button, and make sure you unsubscribe from the channel to never see a video again' got me
One of very, very few gems in the field of Tenet explanations, this. Thanks alot! Also, anyone else is happy for Robert Pattison that he can be respected as a none-sparkling, not literally cold but cool guy? :') I am. He rocks as Edward, but everyone was worried that was all he'd be remembered for, and I was so happy when I'd seen Tenet the first time, I had to wipe tears... No, YOU're crying.
And second, Eeeeves is my 5th favorite character in the movie.
Are people still trying to understand it after 43 years of release 😂😂
brrruuh
i dont understand
@@idk-xl4lz Apparently he is in the future now.
What in the Pincer is this?
Bro no! 😂
'yes' : Nolan
Audience: 'time Inversion Is about the movie?'
Come on people! @Prashunraj Dhital, you deserve a thousand likes for that comment.
Extremely funny and clever. Bravo
Very underrated comment ...... wish i could like a 100 times
Lol that was smooth my brain is still trying to understand it
Sey
ahahahahah
I think one thing about the protagonist shooting at the window is because he already knows how the original fight went and this is him inverting himself to do the deed so the time loop remains constant.
We see this at the end of the film when Neil returns the algorithm so he can invert himself to save the protagonist, therefore ending his loop. He had chose to just live his like, I think the entropy of time would have been shattered
I love this movie!! You must watch it over and over to understand what is going on. Deliciously complicated! Please do a timeline on each character.
I was skeptical at Tenet after I watched it the first time, but the more I thought about it, the more I realized everything made sense. This movie NEEDS these kinds of videos to make sense!
Just finished the movie, I have no idea what the movie is trying to do or say,; I hated it. Thus, I am here now. I will try to check out these videos and try to watch it again to see if it makes any more sense and gets any better.
Doesn't that make a film bad, that you need a UA-cam video to explain it to you? I mean of the whole film is suppose to be logical, then a room divider wouldn't change how we go back in time? Wouldn't the blue team have already been at the site when red team gets there? On and on, so many holes for such a mess of a film
@@thejquinn That’s the thing, this introduces a new concept.
@@viksplosion7105 I think you missed their point tbh
@@atomiccritter6492 Yeah
I like how you always tear up with Max's ending.
And people say this movie has no emotional heart 😭
@@heavyspoilers technically Neil will never be permanently dead the protagonist will send him back to the past he’ll make sure the protagonist survives he’ll live to the future and send him back again it will just keep going in a loop
@@heavyspoilers Well to be honest it doesn't for most of the movie, but yeah the ending was emotional af.
@@shawnyewest3966 he also will never permanently be alive :(
In my humble, uncultured opinion... Tenet is a bloody masterpiece.
It gets better with every watch.
This movie is an interesting study that experimented on new ideas.
But it's far from being a masterpiece.
How do they 💩
Philistine
NCU as in NOLAN CINEMATIC UNIVERSE! We need interstellar inception and tenet in ONE movie 🔥🔥🔥
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That's gonna create a black hole where all movies gets sucked into and the whole concept of movies die.
please my head will burst
no we do not, i will have an aneurysm
This video on another Tenet level, answering questions before I've asked them
ua-cam.com/video/e_Jb8C2WEx4/v-deo.html TenetxDark
I've come to this after a while, the future protagonist wouldn't have survived without Neil's intervention. This is just like The Grandfather Paradox, but inverted. HOLY CRAP, NOLAN IS THE GOAT
This movie was trash
@@jg1692 hey just because you're stupid doesn't mean that others have to be the same
@@jg1692 found the redditor
@@jg1692 just like you?
@@jg1692 for small brains
Anyone else see “Primer?” A low-budget indie film from a while back that had similar time travel rules.
I think Primer (and also Coherence, which is great, but more entry-level) is better, I enjoyed Tenet but I feel short bursts of time travel (in minutes) is more plausible and I could wrap my head around it more than inverting objects (how can you invert something without creating a black hole, which then gave me an idea for a film: terrorists get a hold of machines used to create black holes).
In Primer, I understood the motives of the protagonists (and was impressed at their changing motives/personalities) and as each scene ended, a new piece of the puzzle I hadn't picked up on appeared (e.g. use of ear piece). Tenet for me, whilst being visually stunning, wasn't as compelling. I just don't believe people would risk the Grandfather Paradox because of climate change (surely they have adapted or have tech to combat it in the future; they must or there would be no future). Psychologically, I don't think our future race would be so callous, if it were, would we not be callous too? Tenet ends kind of with a bow, he saves the girl and child (who's definitely related to Pattinsons character), while Primer ends with a Pandora's box, like time itself.
Vastly superior even if it was a nonsensical mess. It at least conveyed some ideas to the audience.
For me this is a creation story and Nolan’s works are a great rosarch test…I’m not sure if he intended to make a creation story but that’s what I see watching this movie
Lmao dude you got me, I was like wait have I watched this already??
Me: I will never completely understand tenet.
Me 10 years later: Tenet? Oh that wasn’t confusing at all, look at this new one Christopher Nolan made, now that’s confusing
Yeah, its about a man with short term memory who becomes a superhero and travels through space going backwards in time to get to the beaches of dunkirk, but it turns out it was all a dream within a dream.
Yes it is, what a great movie
@@jeremywoods770 Tenet, dunkirk and inception, anything else?
@@johann3256 momento, batman
You mean 10 years ago?
As usual with Nolan, I was wildly impressed by his showmanship as a director of spectacle. This is, without a doubt, the tightest work he's done in terms of editing and action choreography. And yet, even after two viewings, I find it difficult to grasp its technical prowess on any emotional level. It's somehow both overwritten and underwritten, cool but cold, immersive yet impenetrable, dazzling and delirious. I've never had such a strong push-pull relationship with a movie in my life.
Officially subscribed! Would absolutely love that LOTR 4K set in my collection!
dazzling? I simply am not seeing that at all
I heard complaints that TENET doesn't give an emotional reason for what the protagonist is doing. Like how Inception is driven by Cobb dealing with the loss of his wife, or exposition while the team is stressed and under fire. But instead I see TENET follows a format closer to a Bond action film. The protagonist is saving the world, not himself.
@@jeremylakeman there's little to no emotional momentum in this film. The perfect film for Nolan nutcases to rewatch and try to convince themselves it's good
The characters needed more work.
@@atomiccritter6492 What are good films to you atomic critter?
I loved how time travel kind of makes sense in Tenet, not like Endgame, Back to the Future etc.
Well in real life time traveling to the past cant exist. But if it theoreticly could it could go in probable 3 ways . All 3 movies work theyr way around different time travel. Tenet most realistic one. Endgame with multiverse and back to the future is i would agree is worst grandfather paradox the movie
@@1236remis Yeah, traveling to the past is impossible according to scientists, but the thing about Tenet I like is that they are not kind of time travelling, more of moving backwards through time. If you want to go back 10 days you have to spend 10 days going back, quantum pshysicists believe that positively charged electrons are going backwards through time and negatively charged electrons are going forwards in time, Nolan took this concept and went wild with it 😄
@@assasin19991999 It's not clear if backwards time travel is impossible. General relativity allows it, but we don't know for sure what role quantum mechanics plays. It looks like it's possible in principle.
I don't remember endgame that well. Didn't they have multiverse theory in it?
So everything they change in the past creates an alternative time line, but doesn't effect what already has happened for them, because that's obviously not possible (what they did in back to the future)
@@WallahNein Yes, I think they used timelines, which branch into multiverses. Back to the future used the good ol formula of grandfather paradox, makes no sense at all.
Appreciate this explanation. I managed to get through the entire movie, confused as hell, coming out thinking it was a mess of a complicated storyline with Nolan being too clever for his own good. I may go back and watch it again with your explanation in my back pocket to see if it improves the experience for me. I've loved all Nolan movies, except Dunkirk, so I was really disappointed with Tenet on the 1st viewing.
Don’t bother, it stinks
There is no way in hell Nolan can top this. If he does, my mind will literally split open.
it's so boring I'm not sure he can go any worse, you're right.
@@LebowskyDude You don’t like Tenet?
@WorldFlex I don’t really watch movies but this one blew my mind away, I just automatically loved it then the plot holes made it even better for me
@WorldFlex I saw a different video and there's actually no plot holes its just really really complex. Like Neil is actually max the woman's son and he's kinda the protagonist ish. I mean it was a good explanation but even now I'm still a little confused cuz it'd quite complex
@WorldFlex nah what I mean is he goes back and foward in time throughout the whole movie. He was at the beginning he was at the end. He dies for a friend he knew for many years existing while there are like 3 or more versions of himself in the same timezone. Connecting everything. It's only complex trying to imagine everything happening simultaneously the plot itself is easy to understand and I enjoyed the movie very much. It wasn't neccesarily a predictable movie and it's something you have to think about so I enjoyed it very much if you didn't then what a shame it is your opinion.
Nolan: You’re Welcome
Us: Thank you for making Tenet
Why would you thank someone for making a convoluted mess
@Meta Man I appreciate your comment but stop posting it literally everywhere lmfao
One thing I still can't wrap my head around: if the explosion makes Sator think that his future self will be successful in burying the algorithm, by logic, his past self should not exist anymore since Neil says the entire past should disappear instantaneously. How is this not a clue to Sator that when the explosion goes off, he still exists, so wouldn't he know he was unsuccessful in burying it? And, wouldn't the future generations know he was unsuccessful? They dig up the hypocenter thinking the algorithm was buried there, but find it empty? "Looks like we better warn Sator. There's no algorithm buried here. Better tell him he was unsuccessful." ??
You just destroyed this entire movie with your post, lol.
good point, but maybe Sator only thinks of the plan to invert himself and go back to that point after the protagonist hands him those final pieces, so from his point of view this is the first time around.
Exactly! Like the movie makes 0 sense because I have this logic stuck in my head!!!
The past self and himself are 2 seperate entities, killing the past one won't kill him
@@aryansinha3629 he means that if the bomb is buried then the future people will dig it out and detonate it so the past should be destroyed but past sator his past wife and past world is still alive so isn't it an indication that bomb didn't detonate?
Love how the detail of neil telling him he doesn't like that drink when they first met. Shows that even tho it was his first time meeting, he already had known him for a lifetime.
I feel like the biggest idiot on the planet. I am still lost no matter how many of these videos i see. I think I start to understand, and then it just unravels on me. Props to Christopher Nolan. Genius work on making a film that I am going to WANT to watch a dozen times, just to get it and a dozen more to see what I missed.
Same for me here
@@dmitriishatokhin It's easier to understand the plot if you take a look at a Sator Square, the story elements are even named after the words in the square.
SATOR
AREPO
TENET
OPERA
ROTAS
When the Protagonist is inverted and on his way to the airport, he begins to bleed. This is because his future-moving self is going to stab him in the turnstile room. He bleeds first, then gets stabbed, then heals. Another cool detail. Even the effects of reverse entropy of impact is shown in the movie. You see in the first version of the turnstile fight scene, the inverted Protagonist is on the floor. And the forward-moving Protagonist suddenly feels a force pushing him backwards. You can even see his surprised reaction. He's feeling the inverted impact from the future interaction.
It is a cool detail but it raises some questions on when the damage/injuries show up. Did his wounds unheal from birth up to the point he was stabbed? What about the bullet holes? Where the windows just installed with bullet holes in them?
@@SirFake314 think of it this way. Invertes protagonist's arm forms a healed wound then starts to bleed all the way up until the point that he gets stabbed. Future self is going backwards and catching up to the point when the action took place the point where he and his past self fight and he gets stabbed. The reason he wasn't bleeding earlier is cause it hadn't happened yet and he hadn't caught up to the point by going backwards yet until the airport scene.
Actually his forward movinf past self stabbed him. Saying future moving self is a bit confusing.
@@liono1983 Also like Neil says, “What’s happened happened”. The ultimate actions of the world are already determined.
@@liono1983 Yeah I get it in theory, but it is odd to think how the car found itself upside down on the freeway or the windows with bullet holes. What happened happened, but since time is running backwards for everyone else’s frame of reference, where do they come from? The bleeding wound is easy to brush off as “unhealing” itself. But did a worker at the airport install a broken pane of glass from his point of view or did the bullet holes appear somehow before the glass was “unshot?”
I'm glad I watched this on blue ray so we could turn on the subtitles!
After seeing the re-release in IMAX over the weekend, I've been having fun revisiting these videos. And then I realized getting everyone to revisit this movie and go back down all the fun rabbit holes of this concept was probably the most Tenet thing that Nolan could do for this audience - nicely done.
I lobved your video.... I am still clueless as far as Tenet goes, but still.... job well done!
You here?😂😃 Love your vids
I heard a good description of it on the Film Junk podcast. The guy said some movies are confusing in terms of emotions and how to feel, but Tenet is confusing in the same way as an instruction manual
@@radiusone216 tbh you can't understand the movie while watching it , because it shows both perspectives, for example the battle scene , it switched between inverted and regular and sometimes you have no idea what's happening
I think Christopher Nolan himself cannot explain what is going on this film
Didn't expect you to be here haha.
I've been loving Christopher Nolan since Memento. I can see his love for Movies that make you think and understand why he keeps pushing the envelope for smart Movies. Too bad so few people can appreciate his unique style.
The man hasn't won an oscar yet or did he?
What do you mean so few appreciate his style? This guy gets more praise than almost any director right now. And he's the only one to come along in the last 20 years whose allowed to make big budget films that aren't tied to established franchises. In fact even when he makes mistakes and poor choices (which he does) people will still come up with ways to explain it. "Oh, people just don't understand!"
The man gets plenty of appreciation. Perhaps too much.
So few people… fucking hell, get over yourself, he’s probably the most successful mainstream director around at the moment.
I appreciate Nolan as much as anyone... But this one was a flop and a mess.
Think through catching the inverted bullets for a second here, really think them through. The first one we see is at the opera. At what point does the bullet hole appear in order for the bullet to get "caught" out of it. Has it always been there? If so why hasn't someone noticed the bullet hole in the opera house? Why haven't they fixed it? In order to "catch the bullet" there has to be an inverted shell casing laying on the ground near by. Why does no one notice all the random shell casings? Do the shell casings just appear before the gun fight? Or has someone cleaned them away and they jump out of the bin and roll backwards towards the gun fight? How do you even send an inverted bullet back? They need to be sent back as a bullet and a casing with the bullet imbeded in the spot you catch them from, but that spot isn't in a turnstile.
Or how about when he's driving around with a broken mirror that gets fixed by the inverted car. How long has the mirror been broken? When did it break in order to be fixed? Does it break just before the car chase? If not has the car been driving around with a broken mirror? Did they manufacture it with a broken mirror in order for it to be unbroken during the inverted car chase?
Visually it's a great movie. Logic wise, it's a failure. Even story wise. If she kills him on the boat why is he around later in the time line to meet the protagonist? It can't be the future version gone back in time that she kills because future Sator would know that he failed because the bomb went off and the world didn't end. But it was some version of him because she saw the future version of herself diving into the water after she killed him. If future Cat is there, and kills him, then does that mean there's two versions of her in that time line or does her past self live out the time line she's just been through in order to be the one that dives in the water? But then if she's living in a continual loop her future self has killed her husband so why the heck is Sator still alive for the rest of the movie?
Did you notice the conversations continuing but moving locations... Or even countries? Did they stop the conversation and then resume it in the new country? Does that mean they changed the subject in between places or do they just not say anything until they get to the new location.
This had the potential to be really good. It's just a hot mess any which way you think it through, and even if it's Nolan's "style" he's just gotten way out of control. The only way the movie remotely works is if you follow the doctors advice and don't think about it.
@@JD86Vintage maybe the future constantly changes by their actions, but they just believe it doesn't
I really enjoyed the movie. I have seen it 3 times and am about to watch it again as I still do not fully understand the plot. I love that it makes me think. As a viewer, I am challenged to follow along, and it's great.
The way Christopher Nolan pieces the movie together is amazing
Keep these tenet videos coming haha can't get enough of this movie.
Yeah got a couple of ideas
Yea I love these vids
Just watched it last night. Just in time. Keep them coming
I loved it even more watching it the second time.
I think it's a misrepresentation to claim that the protagonist went back to "check in" on Kat and Max. He wasn't - what he was doing was responding to a call she made from the past when she noticed the suspect car that Pria and the assassin were in, on the phone given to her for just that reason.
I think thats wrong. they were all in the present. he gave her an inverted phone.
@@someguy4844 That's what I said, how is it wrong? They were all obviously "forward", Kat had a posterityphone of the same sort that Sator used.
wtf u on about... neil said it, not us... if neil is max then ofc it would look like hes going back to check on them, as youn boy neil doesnt know shit
@@TrYzRAID You are a liar and an irredeemable poltroon.
@@noneofyourbeeswax01 huh?
Watching this movie for a second time really made me like it a lot more. The dialogue was indeed inaudible sometimes but I didn’t mind because the music was amazing.
Thanks for the explainer. This was a entertaining movie, and I love a good time travel story, but it was pretty hard to follow. Then the problem with the sound added some frustration. I was raising and lowering the volume the whole movie. It's quite annoying when they can't get the levels balanced.
I still dont understand
Yeah, me too! lol
@@bengejuknowit3048 lol !oot em ,heay
It's designed to be not understandable whether scientifically or just from the other aspects.
We can find a lot of questions without any answer.
@@sadjadasadi4575 yea, but the part where he meets the scientist lady, who explains how bullets go back into the gun......which is the major technical aspect of the film just wasn't clearly told or made sense! If you work at NASA, u can probably follow it fine!
The future has waged war against the past so that the future isn’t fucked up !
The female scientist that explains the inverted objects to the Protagonist cannot be the scientist that invents the algorithm in the future. In a conversation with the Protagonist, Priya says that the scientist that invents the algorithm is born “generations from now”
What does Priya know... She is dead
@@nagarajm4647 what? someone could’ve told her before she died, it’s that easy. don’t look at it so linearly
Yeah it’s like 200 years or something
She could have just gone back in time though and reversed herself again
@@MerthanE you'd age with time, i dont think it is her since the only "things" that are gathered from that time period are objects, not people. makes sense that she would be generations in the future since she never comes back herself
The intro alone had me in the floor. I will be seeing videos from you again 🤣
After listening to this breakdown I will have to watch yet again. No problem, I enjoy it very much.
This movie caused me a headache
But how Neil is Max and we know that if you wanna go back in time you have to live the time you're travelling ?? it means that Neil travelled 20 years ?? how ??
I'd like understand about that please! I try to got the explain of video... but I can't. English isn't my native language.
That can be answered by the neil is max( Debicki son) theory.
Neil says he gets recruited 9 years from the end of the movie. (9 is a recurring number in this movie- 9 million, 9 algorithms)
So 9+9 if you include the inversion travel (guessing).
But if they're not the same person, then it cloud be anybody. We need a tenet 2 for that
@ball baby 2 don’t you age while reversed? Like you are 20 years at timepoint B, reverse to timepoint A 10 years in the past and come out a 30-year old?
@ball baby 2 it seems aging will continue even if you go backward time
I m perplex councerning Neil could be Max
The Maximilien theory is not clear
The name is Max
It cold be Maxence or
Maxwell I a preference with this name
After all Maxwell is a well known Physicist
And another caracter is named Weeler after another well known scientist
@ball baby 2 not sure if i understand what you’re saying, but you do not go backwards in age... the world AROUND you is reversed when you are inverted, so your perspective is what changes.
Like most Nolan movies, I’ve noticed that this movie was Luke warm reception at release but at time goes on it seems people are more positive about it.
@Holger H. big oof this was one of his best movies
@Meta Man I am not frustrated with Nolan or the film - only in that you keep posting the same comment over-and-over!!!
@Holger H. so what you’re saying is you only watch movies if they spoon feed the story to you? The reason for this movie is to watch it multiple times. Nolan wants to create that special cinema experience that required multiple watches. Why watch a movie once and then be gone? Watching a movie more than once is important to truly unravel the story. Try watching it a couple more times and maybe you can grasp an understanding of the story.
Most Nolan movies are box office successes. The only lukewarm reception in recent memory is this one, and only because of the Pandemic.
@Holger H. he had a nice concept but tangled it too much for his own good. I enjoyed the movie, but only for the SF ideas and cool action scenes. The execution itself wasn't good.
I appreciate this attempt to explain TENET.
I had planned to watch this and a couple of other TENET explanations on YT. Then I was going to watch the film again. Was.
I bet many of you watched other "Tenet explained" videos before watching this one
No I watch then 9 months ago today
"Why can't anyone understand what anyone is saying anytime in the movie?" This is actually a problem Nolan has had in many of his films. I think he likes to have his dialogue "sound" real (because real people don't actually speak in the way everyone does in his movies. But that's a different matter). The thing is, in the real world people often say things like "Huh?" "What?" "I can't hear you." Things people can't say in movies.
This is actually a common thing in movies today where the dialogue is often muddled. [If you don't think this is the case compare movies today to movies from say the 90s or earlier where the dialogue is often very clear]. This is compounded in Nolan's films because they are often very exposition heavy and dealing with things that are generally more complex than one generally gets in a film script. Not because movies are stupid, but they need to be more usually need to be more efficient because the format has an inherent time constraint that other mediums don't have.
Nolan's films generally need to be re-watched not because of their complexity, but because of their confusion, which often stems from the fact that too often you can't understand what the characters are saying.
And before some snob chimes in with a "Oh I can always understand everything, it's so easy!"; this is not something unique to this movie, nor Nolan. Although it is a common criticism of his films. He's generally a good director, but he's not perfect.
This is a well thought-out attempt to answer complaints from some about the sound editing in Nolan films, but unfortunately it’s an incomplete and inaccurate one. Aside from your comment that real people don’t talk the way characters in Nolan films do- a comment that is odd seeing as how many of the greatest directors that have ever lived have chosen to write stylistic dialogue that is both distinct and deliberately different than what normal, every day conversation sounds like (and fully understanding that Nolan commonly utilizes exposition in his writing for reasons we both understand)- it’s important to note that Nolan is known in many ways to be one of the only “blockbuster film purists” because he stays true to certain grounded film techniques/approaches in many different ways while producing big budget and high grossing films. One of the things that is exemplary of this “purist” approach is his decision to consistently and intentionally avoid using post-sync Automated Dialogue Replacement, or ADR. He prefers to capture his actor’s dialogue on camera in the moment, and not always digitally post-record in studios. Now this isn’t to say that some “purists” don’t use ADR, but it’s something that a lot of independent filmmakers don’t use, for example. It’s a deliberate choice that Nolan does for a handful of reasons, one of them being the pursuit of pure authenticity by capturing exactly what’s heard on camera the way it was filmed and emphasizing production sound. There are some great articles and videos you can read/watch about Nolan’s decision to do this. Tenet is different in that it was mixed differently and not the way it was intended to be, largely due to pandemic complications. That’s not an excuse, just simply information about what actually happened.
Now, you and others may not like that approach to sound design, but it’s still a deliberate choice with an underlying purpose. I think it’s a decision that should be respected regardless of personal opinion. Therefore it becomes slippery at best to label it as a “problem”. It’s a “problem” if everyone disliked it- which I can assure you everyone does not- or if it was something he didn’t understand or was overlooking/neglecting altogether. I’m not saying people can’t have different opinions on sound design, but it’s important to highlight the truth beyond Nolan’s sound design decisions... and it’s also worth noting that Christopher Nolan’s masterpiece “Dunkirk” and “Inception” both won Oscars for Best Sound Mixing and Best Sound Editing. Throughout his entire career he’s had 8 AA Sound nominations with 5 total wins.
@@Caped___Crusader We're approaching this from two different perspectives, and I can pretty much assure you we're not going to agree on it.
I’m German and usually I watch movies in English because I can understand it good enough but this film confused me so much that I thought I couldn’t speak English anymore:D
Good to know it wasn’t just me.
@@Chromedbustop that much I can agree with you on.
I'm not a native English speaker. So, I always watch English movies with subtitles. That helps a lot in understanding the dialogues. But I always imagined native English speakers can follow the dialogues. Looks like this is a problem for all..
Am I the only one who thinks this movie gets better after every rewatching? I often can pick up on another thing that I missed previously.
You're not
Absolutely! I'm watching it for the third time now and its amazing how many things you pick up on
This movie was made to be watched for multiple viewings. I really liked it the first time I watched it, loved it the second time watching it and picking up on everything I missed the first time.
Because you're able to understand the time paradox better
good for you that you have rewatched it but I thought it was dull and poorly told
Thank you for shooting explanation! Now it make sense...
Thanks. Haven't watched it yet, so I guess you DID succeed in giving the answers before the questions!
I commented this already on another video on Tenet, but I think that Inverted Protagonist shooting at his past self could be a symbolic tie-in to the main plot of the film, with how the Future seems like it's trying to kill us. I believe that since they're from the future and already know their plan to detonate the algorithm bomb fails, they're just running through the movements to ensure their past occurs in the first place, cementing the founding of the Tenet group in the first place. Similar to how Inverted Protagonist knows for a fact that the bullets won't hit his past self, the Future is attacking their past ancestors to ensure their own goals of potentially saving the universe will happen. Perhaps they're ensuring the creation of Tenet in the first place because the group was/is/is going to be vital to the safety of humanity throughout history, and the only way to ensure Tenet's creation is to attempt a fake attack of the past. Kind of like the boot strap paradox; the knowledge they receive from the past is actually from the future, with in turn was from the past, so the only plan they know that will work is one that has already technically happened.
Sounds like this whole operation was a temporal pincer
Did you forget the line where Priya says "Generations from now?" Lol
I almost clicked out of the video when he said that the scientist from the beginning is the oppenheimer lmao. I couldn't trust anything he said after that.
Or is it?
Yeah I've heard people say she must be the scientist also, but this line suggests otherwise. That said, policy is to suppress. And she has only what she has been told. So she believes generations, but it's not like, definitive.
Exactly. It felt like they were working towards explaining that the group was about 200 years in the future.
In addition to other responses, keep in mind that a generation is something like 20-30 years, not 100+ years. By that logic, two or three generations from now she might still be alive and able to discover the algorithm.
pretty neat, so this is a whole time loop lol. wonder what he said when he was drawing this movie up, "How many times do I have to explain this concept to you guys" lol
I just thought that the first time a turnstile was activated, people came out from both ends at the same moment, apperently from nothing. This is because inverted people were coming in from the future, getting reverted to normal and exiting from the other side. This movie is so fricking trippy, I love it so much XD
There are so many films about time travelling. And of course, Nolan made the most unique one ever! Tenet makes Memento, Inception, and Interstellar look like pre-school! Nolan is always so original with his ideas, his storylines, and the scientific concepts. I was confused a lot of the time but I was still hooked to the movie. I wish Nolan never dies and just continues making these mind-blowing movies!!
Movie was boring. I have no reason to give a shit about any of the characters presented.
Pre destination and multiverse theory is not pre school
But I can see where you are going 😄
@@astynlc3618 the movie's a masterpiece imo
@@tegesnripendra9473 people tend to be critical of things they don't understand... Calling an action movie "boring"? Lol
@@scottie3264 yeah lmao
Loved the breakdown. Only had 12 ads in between a 12 minute video. I reckon, you can add another 12 so I have one every 30 seconds.
Get Ublock Origin, never deal with ads again.
If you're on a tablet or phone, you can drag the timeline to the end, hit play then replay, ads disappear.
Dang. Why’d you get 12 ads? I don’t even think I got one
Decided to watch this again. The fact that it’s sci-fi and based on time travel and complicated is what makes it so interesting to me.
You telling me to thumbs down and unsubscribe so then I’ll never have to see one of your videos again immediately got you a thumbs up and a subscription, cheers mate
This movie is underappreciated. I’ve seen it three times and all I can say is that Christopher Nolan is a genius. The Inception is still my favorite movie tho👌
Because inception is understandable 😄
Can't agree more. The more times I watch this movie the better it gets. But Inception is still the best mind blowing sci-fi movie ever. Probably because there are certain parts of this movie that I don't really like - Kat's character, the domestic violence, the not-convincing Russian accent, and the villain's cliche motive to end the world. This is just my opinion, don't hate me for it. Lol.
@@thrunzala It’s totally fine man😃 Everyone has their own opinion) Many people didn’t like it simply because it’s too complex. The only thing I didn’t like was the volume of the sound 😄
i like tenet over inception cuz it feels great and fun to understand the movie by yourself. while inception is really good, the movie explains itself too much i didn't have the joy of trying to understand nolan's genius.
I don’t like rewatching films but I swear, I think I watched Inception 10x lol! My brain hurt watching Tenet tho. Still hard to understand how things are happening lol!
8:25 i thought i was the only one that couldn’t really hear clearly when they talked. I needed subtitles as a crutch.
I suspect everyone that watches this will be frustrated at having to turn up the volume to hear the voices and turning down when the soundtrack kicks off.... I hate poorly mixed soundtracks... it was the most annoying thing of this film... and the utter confusion of what was going on :D
Oh, I watched an online bootleg cam version of this film w/ poor audio so i thought that was just me that i couldn’t quite hear the dialogue. Plan on watching it again w/ subtitles perhaps.
@@banparlous2552 i watched the good version like 720p, 1080p at the most ...not really sure. But still could barley make out dialogue. It gotta be the way they’ve mixed the audio.
Yes - I expected it just to be when the music was too loud, but the dialogue was always difficult to understand. I tried every version my receiver could do, and the Dolby Surround TV logic was about the best
Wait! I thought my tv was fucked up lmao
Watching this for the 5th time and understanding it in a completely different way, all again..! That's Nolan for you!😬❤️
I love this movie so much. I love the idea of Neal being the little boy