I was 18, 1988. Given a week by your Mother to leave home, told not to ever influence my brother's by telling them. To hear your Father say he is ashamed of you, and will never be able to tell anyone. As a 52 year old gay man, I'm reconnecting with my brothers now in 2022. I have marched and fought for my rights, lived through the AIDS rhetoric. Seen so much change, my teenage self never thought possible. Yet this song still takes me back to the escaping 18 year old. Running scared, to be nothing other than I was created to be.
1967 saw the partial decriminalisation of homosexuality in England and Wales (though that led to years of higher arrest rates), Scotland waited until 1980, NI 1982. 2013 saw the law in the UK finally repealed totally. Has to be said Scotland then led the way for acceptance for the whole of the UK. Glasgow is one of my favourite cities, and where the man I care most for and who keeps me sane resides.
Same age. I remember this and similar songs... being completely oblivious to the message at the time but just appreciating the great music. The past is a different country.
I get you. Had a very similar experience, put it behind me and got on with a life. Now I'm retired, the conversations are about looking after Mum (very elderly but fit) and I can't help thoughts and feelings from 40/50 years ago coming into my head. Sometimes it difficult to reconnect, sometimes things just feel so set and permanent, and I'm not sure I have the energy now. I wish you luck with yours, it is possible.
@@bear6845 I feel for you, dear Bear. I am gay as well, (and an old gal of 51!) Know that God is nuts about you, and made no mistake when He formed you....it's people who are jerks. X
@@seniorslaphead8336 51yo. Left UK in 1993 but when I go back, there is still stigma amongst my friends. It isn't overt stigma as I've introduced gay friends to my straight friends without issue. It's just how they address homosexuality amongst each other. Still it's not as bad as the 80s when even physical contact with something a gay man had touched would cause revulsion. Thankfully I don't see any of this in modern Australia but then again my social circle is very different.
This tune reminds me so much of my late great uncle Colin. My uncle was a young gay lad, who travelled down to London from the midlands circa '77 (due to not so progressive views)...this song is basically his journey...He unfortunately contracted HIV in the 80's and eventually succumbed to AIDS... Always in my heart, R.I.P Colin x
I am so sorry. My son is gay, and thankfully will never have to worry about the awful death caused by AIDS. He is 33 now and has had the same partner for 8yrs, and only one other relationship. Medicine has improved so much since the loss of so many. My love to your darling Uncle Colin ❤️
Jimmy Somerville is a friend of a friend of mine, they grew up together through school. They both became friends due to him being a very small lad with fair ginger hair and seen as different, her being small herself and walking with a limp due to medical issues. She speaks of him as an extremely kind, gentle and loving soul....
Same for me. My muscles tense when hearing this song and I'm thinking what I would do with the bullies. Love eachother hard people, don't let anybody fade away!
I was just about to make a similar comment and then saw yours. It breaks my heart. We’ve still got a long way to go culturally, but I feel we’re slowly getting there and there’s a lot more visibility of the struggles people go through and a little more awareness these days. One of my mates came out as Transgender a couple of years back. He was the most alpha male you could ever have imagined, but it was something he’d been struggling with since first realising it as a toddler and he never told anyone about it - keeping it bottled up for decades. I couldn’t be happier for him and have a huge amount of respect for anyone who comes out in whatever way. I know it’s easy for me to say, being straight, but be yourself people. People that really love and care about you will stick by you. I have a 5 year old daughter and I know that however she chooses to live her life will be fine with me. I know this is wildly different, but when I was a teenager, I started losing my hair. I went through years of angst, with people telling me that I was going bald and that I was ugly. In the end, I shaved it all off, and couldn’t be happier now. I know this is different from accepting your sexuality, but the message I got from this is that the only way out of this is “through.” Accept yourself just as you are and you’ll be a lot happier in the long run. Those who love you will stick by you no matter what.
@@SuperFurry68A For me there is consolation that my 17 year old son doesn't show any prejudice towards homosexuality or for that matter bigotry. This generation seems much more progressive than mine ever was.
I can see myself being the father , but after giving it thought i feel conflicted because he is still my son . But . .maybe it is fair to say the dad needs time and space too process this .a bit selfish but its better than disowning the kid
This song is so powerful because it tells the story of so many of the LGBTQQIA+ people... this story keeps on repeating endless times around the world.
I came out in the 90s. This song has true meaning for me. My dad didn't speak to me or even stay in the same room as me. I ended up offering to leave and he'd never hear from me again. He said "I just need time". Now he totally understands and wants me to be happy. When my mum asked her mum to sit down... She said "Mum... Pete's gay" and my nan said "bloody hell!... I thought you were going to tell me something awful". I have total support from my family... I'm just Pete... I actually hate 'Pride Month' because I'm not gay one month of the year... I help out the other 11 months.
Love the review. I'm a dad with a gay daughter and I told her from a young age that I didnt care who she wanted a relationship with as long as she was happy. Obviously as a dad, no one was going to treat her badly whoever she chose as dad would be having a word. In reality though its best not to interfere but, she is happy and married to her lady.
Actually this was a year ot two before AIDS. Jimmi and I were both members of the Gay Teenage Video Project. When we all discussed the things we wanted to raise in our film, it was noted that all the guys had needed to leave home. In London we could form clubs and venues and make new friends. It changes you for life, making a clean start in a new city. We also had to learn to defend ourselves on the street and deal with police harrassment, etc. I would never have asked you guys to watch this, but happy that you did... and you didn't let me down!
I remember that Video Project, not terribly well, but I do remember enjoying it years ago, Jimmy singing Junk, and looking even younger than in the video above! I left home in West Lothian, same time, same reason, but only made it as far as Edinburgh. That Video Project made a difference, to me and others thank you for your work.
You wanted fame, attention and cummies. You broke up your family out of a similar kind of desire that makes middle aged men stare at children at the pool, but with a kink. Where has it gotten you @antiqueinsider? Are you finding pride in your kids, love for your family, or cuddling up to another 60yo confused man?
@@nickthefox72 What is the point of this? Terry Higgins died at the end of 1982. The meeting between London Gay Groups and US friends/CDC was in the summer of 1983, and in July. the Gay Youth Movement Summer Camp and the start of the LG Video project. yes it took nearly a year to get the single released. Only around this time did we realise that the AIDS situation was going to be really serious. (At the time we were still counting UK deaths in low hundreds). It was 1984 when 'Factor iv' was identified. The end of 1985 that the number diagnosed got to epidemic numbers. (2000 in the uk at the EOY 1985). In social terms Smalltown Boy is definitely 'pre AIDS!! In 1984 Jimmy was much more engaged with the miner's strike than anything to do with AIDS. (see the movie 'Pride')
I wouldn't say that. It was of its time, I'd say the difference is that people now are more accepting of other people's differences so it's heard more.
I find it amazing how this song has touched so many generations. I am no oldie, I'm 17. However growing up where I did, I had a hard time coming to terms with my sexuality. This song touched me in a way I could never describe. It got me through a lot. If you are going through similar, I hope nothing but the best for you!
I have a gay daughter and me and her father couldn't love her any more than we do shame on parents who bought children into the world and disown them it breaks my heart
Wake up, that's not a successful path for her. Stop buying into this Liberal retardation that same sex people live out happy lives. It's not bliss for straight couples, but it's a sacrifice that leads to a worthwhile journey, rather than "I want to get emotionally satisfied via new thing". Fact is, gay women relationships are more violent than same sex partnerships. Both far less violent that man / women Christian based relationships.
I was born at the same hospital as Jimmy, has to be said Glasgow has changed massively since this vid was made. From a working class background, as a teen, I wasn't allowed an earring, as that would have meant I was gay according to my dad.
@@trevordoolan5011 I never got my ear piercing, but years later, after leaving home, I got a tattoo. When he saw it, he said "what's that, yer no in the bloody navy".
My only living child is gay. He never worried about our family accepting it, he knew they loved him no matter what, it was his mates he was concerned about. He grew up in a country town, not many gays here, but his mates have all stuck by him, it made no difference to them. He is also not at all feminine and is a big boy, so was never bullied. Anyone would just think he was a tradie or a farmer. No feminine traits at all. I didn’t even know and I’m usually pretty good at picking these thing s up. The only thing that made me sad is that I won’t get a grandchild, they are not very interested and it’s harder here to get a surrogate. Otherwise I love his partner as my own son and never want to lose him from my life. He has the same name as my stillborn daughter.
Thanks so much for reacting to this guys. This spoke to so many young Gay people who had endured bullying and violence and also shame and rejection from their own families. 40 years ago (and further back), there was a lot of entrenched ignorance from wider society towards Homosexuals and of course widespread ignorance and fear regarding AIDS and I love how the Band address this in the very last scene on the train with two of them taking a bite from the same apple to try and dispel the (then) current myth that the virus could be spread via saliva, which wasn't - and never has been - true.
I was 16 when this song came out. Seeing this video on MTV back then was a total revelation. I no longer felt like I was alone in my feelings. The next year I left home.
Back in the 80's checking the train sidings at Charring cross my buddy and I found a young kid about 16 sleeping in one of the passenger trains parked up for the night,. The boy said he'd been kicked out of his home for being gay and had nowhere else to sleep. My co-worker who was usually very aggressive towards vagrants, and a 6 feet 4 was very intimidating at times for once took pity on the kid , let him stay on the train .and even told him how to get help from social services. As we were walking away i asked him why he'd done that as he was normally a total bastard. He said because the kid reminded him of himself, as he;d been kicked of his home at 14 for being gay and had slept on the streets for 3 years.. Till that moment I didn't Know he was gay or had ever been homeless . You can't tell a book by it's cover.
@user-kv2tj4du8p I should of said after working with him for 2 years I didn't Know he was gay. Myself I'm straight , and spent 6 years in the British army. And even though it was over 40 years ago and I've Knocked all around the world , washing up in Canada. I'd still say he's 1 of the toughest and capable men I've ever known.
This song played a huge part in this straight guy being able to empathize with the plight of gay people in those unaccepting times and places. I'm not a huge fan of the song musically, but I will always love it for that. If you want more from Jimmy, the covers of "Don't leave me this way" and "Never can say goodbye" he did with his next project The Communards, are absolute bangers. Thanks for the reaction guys! 🏳️🌈
I love this song. It stopped me in my tracks when it came out. I was raised in a family that had a zero-tolerance approach to homophobia (my aunt lived with her partner for 50 years), and it broke my baby heart that someone could be disowned by their family just because of who they loved. And Jimmy's voice! My God!!! He's still got it, btw❤
After "Bronski Beat", Jimmy teamed up with Richard Coles (whose now a vicar) to form "The Communards". In 1986 they released "Don't Leave Me This Way" And in 1987, released "Never Can Say Goodbye". Both great tunes. Maybe you could react those 2 songs. 🎵🎼 My mum always used to say he (Jimmy) was "a great mover" 🕺
My God this sounds epic on a dance floor. I just revisited my 80’s heyday recently when thedj played this 12” version. Men in their 50’s and 60’s got up and danced and knew every single word. It was amazing. ❤
Great reaction lads. I vividly remember this being released back in ‘84. The video is tame by todays standards but attitudes were so very different back then. This song & Jimmy’s beautiful voice continues to touch peoples hearts. Why can’t humanity just be accepting & kind. Happy birthday Jimmy S, (22/6/61).
This song is an important piece of music history. First their is Jimmy Sommerville's stunning banshee-like falsetto we really hadn't heard anything like it before. But more importantly, the topic--which everyone new someone with a story like in the video--was now being sung out loud and without lyrics in code or inuendo... AND it goes on to be a mainstream dancefloor hit... was kind of revolutionary; Boy George didn't even sing about gay themes openly. Thank you for doing this song. Very cool of you.
This was a real outlet for many of my gay friends in college it was the soundtrack to their lives, to travel hundreds of miles to be accepted by stranger's, friends didn't understand how we could accept them but their parents wouldn't.
Spotted John Collins from Yorkshire playing the father. He was a fixture on British television during the 1960s and 1970s. As a supporting character in many top rating TV series.
When I was a teen and saw this for the first time, it cemented what I already knew--I was gay, and I would experience pain and abuse, but with the right group of people, life goes on. almost 40 years later this song brings back those memories.
This song could have been set to any genre of music, as it was a political song that meant so much to we that were coming out at that time. The government at the time were set to introduce draconian laws on being gay. But because it was set to a gay hi energy beat and it cut through to the normal charts, this stands as one of the Greatest political songs of all time. If it didn't change the political landscape of the time, it certainly started it. Thanks for understanding and reacting.
I grew up with this song, its a banger and although I knew what it was about it never truly hit me until I was 20 and out at a small basement club... there was maybe 3 people on the dancefloor when this song came on including myself and a few girls, and next thing there was 20 guys dancing their hearts out. It was and to my view still is an anthem.
You guys are great doing this one. You nailed it. It sums up the huge cultural position at the time in the UK. So pleased you Americans could grasp it. 👍
The "like-minded guys" at the swimming pool and on the train are the other members of the band - the one in orange is Steve Bronski (after whom the band is named).
It’s a good tune, I was a bit of a kid when it came out but then later realise what it’s actually about which makes it even better. J Somerville does have a great unique voice aswell
Happy Pride guys and thank you for reviewing this song which is still relevant now as it was back then, So many young men and women have had to run away from home just because of who they are, Sadly a fair few don’t get the chance and they end their own lives, I really appreciate your review and understanding of this song and how you sensitively handled it have a great day both and remember…….Embrace the Suck!.
We all fell in love with Jimmy when this song and video came out. I was lucky as came out around this time and my mum had a bit of an issue at first though not with me more within herself. My Dad i later found out just said 'Ok he's still our son what ever' My later husband he him got on like a house on fire some years later. There is a great british film called 'Pride' about the pride movment and they gay support for the mine workers during the big strike.
This is the first reaction I've seen from you guys and aside from loving that and subbing quick fast,it's really nice to see your support for pride most dudes wouldn't bother but allyship,compassion and mutual respect are desirable characteristics more dudes need them
There's a great film called 'Pride' from 2014 featuring an activist called Mark Ashton who was friends with Jimmy Somerville back in the 80s. and in the credits plays a song that Jimmy wrote for/about him. Wonderful watch
What all the great artists try to do, from Mozart and Beethoven to Constable and Turner, from Oasis and The Sex Pistols to Andy Warhol and Henri Matisse, they try to capture the times they are living in
I m a straight guy but i remember this song and video caused a storm back in the day. And what you must remember is that Jimmy Somerville the singer came from Glasgow. One of the toughest citys in Europe. A different world back then
It’s him leaving his small, insular town and moving to the big city rather than being kicked out, hence the name of the song. It’s based on his experiences as Jimmy did move to London when he was still a teenager.
Brilliant! I used to walk to school with a tape recorded off of Radio1's UK Top 40 including this and many other greats (Heavy D & The Boys - Now That We've Found Love etc) Fantastic Times! And yep fantastic voice! Thank You!
I was the same with Relax, loved the song, had their poster on the wall but had no clue what the song was about as I was too young but I thought the song was amazing, still do.
Jimmy Somerville was one of the voices of the 80's with Bronski Beat and The Communards. The Communards - Don't Leave Me This Way (cover) is his most popular song
Hello fellas, you need to listen to “Why” by Bronski Beat and “Don’t leave me this way” by the Communards (also a Jimmy Somerville band) highly recommended.
When I think back to bronski beat it didn't last long, so I also think of the communards and yazoo as the bronski beat follow on's. If you are staying on the PRIDE theme, you probably want to check out Erasure. Vince Clark was in Yazoo and Depeche Mode, before starting Erasure with Andy Bell. Some of their video's have to be seen to be believed and you probably don't want to look into Andy's live on-stage costumes. They're in their 60's now, but still touring.
Theres a thing about glasgow and a certain style of songwriter Jimmy somerville, Stuart Murdoch of Belle and Sebastian check out "the boy with the arab strap", Aidan Moffat (arab strap and solo artist), they seem to capture a weird mix of self loathing, questioning the world and moving forward.
As a kid in the 70s I grew up in a world where homophobia was so ingrained, the word barely existed. To my shame I got swept along with the mood of the time, all the jokes, insults etc, maybe because back then people still believed it was a perverse lifestyle choice. Being disowned by the family was a real possibility back then. It was a long time before I realised that it isn’t a choice and that sexual orientation is biologically determined from birth, and then I began to realise what those people went through, the fear, rejection, isolation and intimidation they lived with and still do in many places. I suppose it’s part of the process of human enlightenment as we learn to recognise the suffering in others and understand that they don’t deserve it.
Do you know Stephen Fry is gay? My favourite Stephen Fry moment is "they say of the acropolis where the parthenon is" on a quiz show he presents called "QI", that episode has Jimmy Carr, Bill Bailey, Rob Brydon and Alan Davies. Great cast and hilarious moment.
Jimmy, the singer, grew up gay in working-class Scotland in the 1970s/80s and had to leave that homophobic environment to come out and live his life. i recognise that as I did the same, at the same time, for the same reason. This was not to do with HIV or AIDS, this was years before that, though the song came out as that was arriving. The song deals with the homophobia that existed before AIDS and still exists today. I was very surprised that you chose this song because of 'Pride Month', you read all the lyrics and correctly identified what this song was about, and yet not once did either of you say the word 'gay' or 'homosexual', you did say 'straight' and mentioned HIV, so it felt like you were skirting around the word but for some reason couldn't let it pass your lips. That is the homophobia that Jimmy is singing about, 'the love that dare not speak its name', I think you showed that it still exists.
saw bronski beat at a free open air all day concert in london back in the 80's,they did a few songs then straight after announced his new band the comunards and they came on and sang couple of new songs but with bronski beat...fantastic also saw madness,ub40,maxi priest and loads of others there that day.
You should check out the video, "Streetmusician sings - Original singer comes along and joins him", where a busker is singing this song and Jimmy Somerville happened to be walking by so he joined him!
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I was 18, 1988. Given a week by your Mother to leave home, told not to ever influence my brother's by telling them. To hear your Father say he is ashamed of you, and will never be able to tell anyone.
As a 52 year old gay man, I'm reconnecting with my brothers now in 2022.
I have marched and fought for my rights, lived through the AIDS rhetoric. Seen so much change, my teenage self never thought possible.
Yet this song still takes me back to the escaping 18 year old. Running scared, to be nothing other than I was created to be.
1967 saw the partial decriminalisation of homosexuality in England and Wales (though that led to years of higher arrest rates), Scotland waited until 1980, NI 1982. 2013 saw the law in the UK finally repealed totally.
Has to be said Scotland then led the way for acceptance for the whole of the UK. Glasgow is one of my favourite cities, and where the man I care most for and who keeps me sane resides.
Same age. I remember this and similar songs... being completely oblivious to the message at the time but just appreciating the great music. The past is a different country.
I get you. Had a very similar experience, put it behind me and got on with a life. Now I'm retired, the conversations are about looking after Mum (very elderly but fit) and I can't help thoughts and feelings from 40/50 years ago coming into my head. Sometimes it difficult to reconnect, sometimes things just feel so set and permanent, and I'm not sure I have the energy now. I wish you luck with yours, it is possible.
@@bear6845 I feel for you, dear Bear. I am gay as well, (and an old gal of 51!) Know that God is nuts about you, and made no mistake when He formed you....it's people who are jerks. X
@@seniorslaphead8336 51yo. Left UK in 1993 but when I go back, there is still stigma amongst my friends. It isn't overt stigma as I've introduced gay friends to my straight friends without issue. It's just how they address homosexuality amongst each other. Still it's not as bad as the 80s when even physical contact with something a gay man had touched would cause revulsion. Thankfully I don't see any of this in modern Australia but then again my social circle is very different.
This tune reminds me so much of my late great uncle Colin. My uncle was a young gay lad, who travelled down to London from the midlands circa '77 (due to not so progressive views)...this song is basically his journey...He unfortunately contracted HIV in the 80's and eventually succumbed to AIDS... Always in my heart, R.I.P Colin x
RIP X
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RIP Colin 🌈 May we never forget
So sorry.
I am so sorry. My son is gay, and thankfully will never have to worry about the awful death caused by AIDS. He is 33 now and has had the same partner for 8yrs, and only one other relationship. Medicine has improved so much since the loss of so many. My love to your darling Uncle Colin ❤️
Jimmy Somerville is a friend of a friend of mine, they grew up together through school. They both became friends due to him being a very small lad with fair ginger hair and seen as different, her being small herself and walking with a limp due to medical issues. She speaks of him as an extremely kind, gentle and loving soul....
This song hits hard. I'm straight and it just crushes me how people.treat people, fathers treat sons etc
Same for me. My muscles tense when hearing this song and I'm thinking what I would do with the bullies. Love eachother hard people, don't let anybody fade away!
I was just about to make a similar comment and then saw yours. It breaks my heart. We’ve still got a long way to go culturally, but I feel we’re slowly getting there and there’s a lot more visibility of the struggles people go through and a little more awareness these days. One of my mates came out as Transgender a couple of years back. He was the most alpha male you could ever have imagined, but it was something he’d been struggling with since first realising it as a toddler and he never told anyone about it - keeping it bottled up for decades.
I couldn’t be happier for him and have a huge amount of respect for anyone who comes out in whatever way. I know it’s easy for me to say, being straight, but be yourself people. People that really love and care about you will stick by you. I have a 5 year old daughter and I know that however she chooses to live her life will be fine with me.
I know this is wildly different, but when I was a teenager, I started losing my hair. I went through years of angst, with people telling me that I was going bald and that I was ugly. In the end, I shaved it all off, and couldn’t be happier now. I know this is different from accepting your sexuality, but the message I got from this is that the only way out of this is “through.” Accept yourself just as you are and you’ll be a lot happier in the long run. Those who love you will stick by you no matter what.
@@SuperFurry68A For me there is consolation that my 17 year old son doesn't show any prejudice towards homosexuality or for that matter bigotry. This generation seems much more progressive than mine ever was.
Agreed. Fantastic song.
I can see myself being the father , but after giving it thought i feel conflicted because he is still my son . But . .maybe it is fair to say the dad needs time and space too process this .a bit selfish but its better than disowning the kid
This song is so powerful because it tells the story of so many of the LGBTQQIA+ people... this story keeps on repeating endless times around the world.
I came out in the 90s. This song has true meaning for me. My dad didn't speak to me or even stay in the same room as me. I ended up offering to leave and he'd never hear from me again. He said "I just need time". Now he totally understands and wants me to be happy.
When my mum asked her mum to sit down... She said "Mum... Pete's gay" and my nan said "bloody hell!... I thought you were going to tell me something awful".
I have total support from my family... I'm just Pete... I actually hate 'Pride Month' because I'm not gay one month of the year... I help out the other 11 months.
Your nan had the right attitude. Our grandmother's were the right sort ♥️
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Love the review. I'm a dad with a gay daughter and I told her from a young age that I didnt care who she wanted a relationship with as long as she was happy.
Obviously as a dad, no one was going to treat her badly whoever she chose as dad would be having a word.
In reality though its best not to interfere but, she is happy and married to her lady.
Jimmy Somerville did a version of this a few years ago, Smalltown Boy Reprise, his voice is still wonderful & it’s even more moving.
I was just about to say the same thing. It is brilliant you must look at it.
Sure that's Jimmy singing with bronski beat sounds the same both versions to me
@@alexis4816 It is not brilliant. It is hauntingly beautiful. Somerville is one of the best British singers we have.
I saw that. Hasn't lost his touch, he still hits those notes.
that voice..... still amazing!
Actually this was a year ot two before AIDS. Jimmi and I were both members of the Gay Teenage Video Project. When we all discussed the things we wanted to raise in our film, it was noted that all the guys had needed to leave home. In London we could form clubs and venues and make new friends. It changes you for life, making a clean start in a new city. We also had to learn to defend ourselves on the street and deal with police harrassment, etc. I would never have asked you guys to watch this, but happy that you did... and you didn't let me down!
early 80's Britain was a really wake up call for the Island a very important decade.
I remember that Video Project, not terribly well, but I do remember enjoying it years ago, Jimmy singing Junk, and looking even younger than in the video above! I left home in West Lothian, same time, same reason, but only made it as far as Edinburgh. That Video Project made a difference, to me and others thank you for your work.
You wanted fame, attention and cummies. You broke up your family out of a similar kind of desire that makes middle aged men stare at children at the pool, but with a kink. Where has it gotten you @antiqueinsider? Are you finding pride in your kids, love for your family, or cuddling up to another 60yo confused man?
It was 1984 and the AIDS epidemic was already in full swing. Not a year or two before
@@nickthefox72 What is the point of this? Terry Higgins died at the end of 1982. The meeting between London Gay Groups and US friends/CDC was in the summer of 1983, and in July. the Gay Youth Movement Summer Camp and the start of the LG Video project. yes it took nearly a year to get the single released. Only around this time did we realise that the AIDS situation was going to be really serious. (At the time we were still counting UK deaths in low hundreds). It was 1984 when 'Factor iv' was identified. The end of 1985 that the number diagnosed got to epidemic numbers. (2000 in the uk at the EOY 1985). In social terms Smalltown Boy is definitely 'pre AIDS!! In 1984 Jimmy was much more engaged with the miner's strike than anything to do with AIDS. (see the movie 'Pride')
This song was so ahead of its time. It's incredible.
I wouldn't say that. It was of its time, I'd say the difference is that people now are more accepting of other people's differences so it's heard more.
I would think this tune is Of It's Time...!
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So your saying "woke mafia" (whatever that means🤦♂️) and "elites" don't like Gay people ?? Why Not ?
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I find it amazing how this song has touched so many generations. I am no oldie, I'm 17. However growing up where I did, I had a hard time coming to terms with my sexuality. This song touched me in a way I could never describe. It got me through a lot. If you are going through similar, I hope nothing but the best for you!
I have a gay daughter and me and her father couldn't love her any more than we do shame on parents who bought children into the world and disown them it breaks my heart
Wake up, that's not a successful path for her. Stop buying into this Liberal retardation that same sex people live out happy lives. It's not bliss for straight couples, but it's a sacrifice that leads to a worthwhile journey, rather than "I want to get emotionally satisfied via new thing". Fact is, gay women relationships are more violent than same sex partnerships. Both far less violent that man / women Christian based relationships.
YES!! Mothers and Fathers love your children.
I was born at the same hospital as Jimmy, has to be said Glasgow has changed massively since this vid was made. From a working class background, as a teen, I wasn't allowed an earring, as that would have meant I was gay according to my dad.
That's what my Parents told me too...
But, it didn't stop me ! I didn't believe them 💫
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@@trevordoolan5011 I never got my ear piercing, but years later, after leaving home, I got a tattoo. When he saw it, he said "what's that, yer no in the bloody navy".
My only living child is gay. He never worried about our family accepting it, he knew they loved him no matter what, it was his mates he was concerned about. He grew up in a country town, not many gays here, but his mates have all stuck by him, it made no difference to them. He is also not at all feminine and is a big boy, so was never bullied. Anyone would just think he was a tradie or a farmer. No feminine traits at all. I didn’t even know and I’m usually pretty good at picking these thing s up. The only thing that made me sad is that I won’t get a grandchild, they are not very interested and it’s harder here to get a surrogate. Otherwise I love his partner as my own son and never want to lose him from my life. He has the same name as my stillborn daughter.
Great reaction guys. You didn't need to be gay to appreciate the power of this track or Jimmy Sommerville's amazing voice.
Exactly
Thanks so much for reacting to this guys. This spoke to so many young Gay people who had endured bullying and violence and also shame and rejection from their own families. 40 years ago (and further back), there was a lot of entrenched ignorance from wider society towards Homosexuals and of course widespread ignorance and fear regarding AIDS and I love how the Band address this in the very last scene on the train with two of them taking a bite from the same apple to try and dispel the (then) current myth that the virus could be spread via saliva, which wasn't - and never has been - true.
I was 16 when this song came out. Seeing this video on MTV back then was a total revelation. I no longer felt like I was alone in my feelings. The next year I left home.
Back in the 80's checking the train sidings at Charring cross my buddy and I found a young kid about 16 sleeping in one of the passenger trains parked up for the night,. The boy said he'd been kicked out of his home for being gay and had nowhere else to sleep. My co-worker who was usually very aggressive towards vagrants, and a 6 feet 4 was very intimidating at times for once took pity on the kid , let him stay on the train .and even told him how to get help from social services. As we were walking away i asked him why he'd done that as he was normally a total bastard. He said because the kid reminded him of himself, as he;d been kicked of his home at 14 for being gay and had slept on the streets for 3 years.. Till that moment I didn't Know he was gay or had ever been homeless . You can't tell a book by it's cover.
@user-kv2tj4du8p I should of said after working with him for 2 years I didn't Know he was gay. Myself I'm straight , and spent 6 years in the British army. And even though it was over 40 years ago and I've Knocked all around the world , washing up in Canada. I'd still say he's 1 of the toughest and capable men I've ever known.
This song played a huge part in this straight guy being able to empathize with the plight of gay people in those unaccepting times and places. I'm not a huge fan of the song musically, but I will always love it for that.
If you want more from Jimmy, the covers of "Don't leave me this way" and "Never can say goodbye" he did with his next project The Communards, are absolute bangers. Thanks for the reaction guys! 🏳️🌈
I love this song. It stopped me in my tracks when it came out. I was raised in a family that had a zero-tolerance approach to homophobia (my aunt lived with her partner for 50 years), and it broke my baby heart that someone could be disowned by their family just because of who they loved. And Jimmy's voice! My God!!! He's still got it, btw❤
The voice on this guy.....amazing.
After "Bronski Beat", Jimmy teamed up with Richard Coles (whose now a vicar) to form "The Communards". In 1986 they released "Don't Leave Me This Way" And in 1987, released "Never Can Say Goodbye". Both great tunes. Maybe you could react those 2 songs. 🎵🎼
My mum always used to say he (Jimmy) was "a great mover" 🕺
This song made an impact, thanks guys for respecting the message.
My God this sounds epic on a dance floor.
I just revisited my 80’s heyday recently when thedj played this 12” version. Men in their 50’s and 60’s got up and danced and knew every single word. It was amazing. ❤
Great reaction lads. I vividly remember this being released back in ‘84. The video is tame by todays standards but attitudes were so very different back then. This song & Jimmy’s beautiful voice continues to touch peoples hearts. Why can’t humanity just be accepting & kind. Happy birthday Jimmy S, (22/6/61).
A masterpiece that'll always hit my heart and memories. Love it tenderly ❤❤❤❤❤
This song is an important piece of music history. First their is Jimmy Sommerville's stunning banshee-like falsetto we really hadn't heard anything like it before. But more importantly, the topic--which everyone new someone with a story like in the video--was now being sung out loud and without lyrics in code or inuendo... AND it goes on to be a mainstream dancefloor hit... was kind of revolutionary; Boy George didn't even sing about gay themes openly.
Thank you for doing this song. Very cool of you.
This was a real outlet for many of my gay friends in college it was the soundtrack to their lives, to travel hundreds of miles to be accepted by stranger's, friends didn't understand how we could accept them but their parents wouldn't.
That was an excellent review fellas with carefully chosen words, a respectful analysis. Two professionals, great job✌️🇬🇧✌️🇺🇸👍👍🍻
Jimmys voice, even now, gives me goosebumps. Magical voice
The scene were his dad gives him some money but wont shake his hand is so touching.
I feel old when I see and hear this, it seems another lifetime ago. But Jimmy still has the voice even today. Some lad too.
Spotted John Collins from Yorkshire playing the father. He was a fixture on British television during the 1960s and 1970s. As a supporting character in many top rating TV series.
Incredible voice, incredible song. Still gives me chills.
When I was a teen and saw this for the first time, it cemented what I already knew--I was gay, and I would experience pain and abuse, but with the right group of people, life goes on. almost 40 years later this song brings back those memories.
This was one of my favourite tunes in the 80s! Love it, still to this day. The hard story behind the wonderful 80s beat still gets me.
Look how unique and good music was back in the day
This song could have been set to any genre of music, as it was a political song that meant so much to we that were coming out at that time. The government at the time were set to introduce draconian laws on being gay. But because it was set to a gay hi energy beat and it cut through to the normal charts, this stands as one of the Greatest political songs of all time. If it didn't change the political landscape of the time, it certainly started it. Thanks for understanding and reacting.
I grew up with this song, its a banger and although I knew what it was about it never truly hit me until I was 20 and out at a small basement club... there was maybe 3 people on the dancefloor when this song came on including myself and a few girls, and next thing there was 20 guys dancing their hearts out. It was and to my view still is an anthem.
Just imagine if that was your child -dad won’t even shake his hand. Just horrible. This is why Pride is so important
Jimmy Somerville went on to form the group The Communards and sing Solo. Such a great singer songwriter.
Mainstream pop music that had a powerful personal message and actually had a positive impact in destroying prejudice in the 1980’s. Good pick guys.
You guys are great doing this one. You nailed it. It sums up the huge cultural position at the time in the UK. So pleased you Americans could grasp it. 👍
Their classic first album ‘The age of consent’ from which this track is taken is worth reviewing. ❤
The "like-minded guys" at the swimming pool and on the train are the other members of the band - the one in orange is Steve Bronski (after whom the band is named).
Excellent reaction to one of my fave songs at the time!
It’s a good tune, I was a bit of a kid when it came out but then later realise what it’s actually about which makes it even better. J Somerville does have a great unique voice aswell
RIP Steve Bronski. passed away recently.
I photographed Jimmy quite a few years ago, He is such a lovely guy. So down to earth and friendly.
Happy Pride guys and thank you for reviewing this song which is still relevant now as it was back then, So many young men and women have had to run away from home just because of who they are, Sadly a fair few don’t get the chance and they end their own lives, I really appreciate your review and understanding of this song and how you sensitively handled it have a great day both and remember…….Embrace the Suck!.
Jimmy has a great countertenor voice.
We all fell in love with Jimmy when this song and video came out. I was lucky as came out around this time and my mum had a bit of an issue at first though not with me more within herself. My Dad i later found out just said 'Ok he's still our son what ever' My later husband he him got on like a house on fire some years later. There is a great british film called 'Pride' about the pride movment and they gay support for the mine workers during the big strike.
Love this song. Jimmy sommerville also had a band called the communards they were great back in the day
Search for Jimmy Somerville Busker. Class moment when he joins an unsuspecting Busker singing Small Town Boy.
Absolute banger from the 80's
This is the first reaction I've seen from you guys and aside from loving that and subbing quick fast,it's really nice to see your support for pride most dudes wouldn't bother but allyship,compassion and mutual respect are desirable characteristics more dudes need them
Great reaction guys
Another emotional one is Hideaway by Erasure. It's about a guy coming out to his parents. Not sure if it's based on the singer's own experience
There's a great film called 'Pride' from 2014 featuring an activist called Mark Ashton who was friends with Jimmy Somerville back in the 80s. and in the credits plays a song that Jimmy wrote for/about him. Wonderful watch
What all the great artists try to do, from Mozart and Beethoven to Constable and Turner, from Oasis and The Sex Pistols to Andy Warhol and Henri Matisse, they try to capture the times they are living in
Missed out Robert Rabbie Burns
@@ThomasKelly669 I didn't cos I don't know too much about Rabbie Burns
Thank you for understanding.
One of my 'go to' bits of music to cheer me up. Jimmy Somerville is great, still sounds great live to this day
One of my all time favourite songs, and he sings it better today than back in the 80's
I m a straight guy but i remember this song and video caused a storm back in the day. And what you must remember is that Jimmy Somerville the singer came from Glasgow. One of the toughest citys in Europe. A different world back then
Jimmy's later band The Communards had some amazing songs and videos
It’s him leaving his small, insular town and moving to the big city rather than being kicked out, hence the name of the song. It’s based on his experiences as Jimmy did move to London when he was still a teenager.
Brilliant!
I used to walk to school with a tape recorded off of Radio1's UK Top 40 including this and many other greats (Heavy D & The Boys - Now That We've Found Love etc) Fantastic Times! And yep fantastic voice!
Thank You!
I was 12/13 when this came out,and had no clue what it was about...just that it was a banging tune xx
I was the same with Relax, loved the song, had their poster on the wall but had no clue what the song was about as I was too young but I thought the song was amazing, still do.
Yeah we knew relax was rude but that's about it x
This song is heartbreaking. Nothing could stop me from loving my boys. 😪
Jimmy Somerville is amazing, try The Communards with Jimmy - don’t leave me this way x
from what was a golden era in british music, all kinds of great synth-pop from around that time
Jimmy Somerville was one of the voices of the 80's with Bronski Beat and The Communards. The Communards - Don't Leave Me This Way (cover) is his most popular song
Hello fellas, you need to listen to “Why” by Bronski Beat and “Don’t leave me this way” by the Communards (also a Jimmy Somerville band) highly recommended.
When I think back to bronski beat it didn't last long, so I also think of the communards and yazoo as the bronski beat follow on's. If you are staying on the PRIDE theme, you probably want to check out Erasure. Vince Clark was in Yazoo and Depeche Mode, before starting Erasure with Andy Bell. Some of their video's have to be seen to be believed and you probably don't want to look into Andy's live on-stage costumes. They're in their 60's now, but still touring.
Yazoo "Don't Go" is one bangin' 80's Electro Synth Pop Tune, with a Power-House of Female Vocals. And of course, the Maestro... Vince Clark🎹
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@@trevordoolan5011 Alison Moyet and Sarah Jane Morris are two of the reasons I can't split the Communards and Yazoo.
Theres a thing about glasgow and a certain style of songwriter Jimmy somerville, Stuart Murdoch of Belle and Sebastian check out "the boy with the arab strap", Aidan Moffat (arab strap and solo artist), they seem to capture a weird mix of self loathing, questioning the world and moving forward.
Great Tune...
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As a kid in the 70s I grew up in a world where homophobia was so ingrained, the word barely existed. To my shame I got swept along with the mood of the time, all the jokes, insults etc, maybe because back then people still believed it was a perverse lifestyle choice. Being disowned by the family was a real possibility back then. It was a long time before I realised that it isn’t a choice and that sexual orientation is biologically determined from birth, and then I began to realise what those people went through, the fear, rejection, isolation and intimidation they lived with and still do in many places. I suppose it’s part of the process of human enlightenment as we learn to recognise the suffering in others and understand that they don’t deserve it.
Great stuff guys.
Great reaction guys.
Let us never go back to times were fear, ignorance and violence ruled more prominently.
Love is love, and should be celebrated
Reviewers can directly relate to the subject matter and that we can appreciate!
Love jimmy,s voice , love from Scotland 🏴
Try I feel love bronski beat and Marc Almond video, also featured Johnny remember me, written by Geoff Goddard the video is quite good
the beauty, morality and all embracing nature of the Abrahamic religions! as Ricky G. once said "Thank god for making me an Atheist"
Do you know Stephen Fry is gay? My favourite Stephen Fry moment is "they say of the acropolis where the parthenon is" on a quiz show he presents called "QI", that episode has Jimmy Carr, Bill Bailey, Rob Brydon and Alan Davies. Great cast and hilarious moment.
Another excellent video lads, your open minds are beautiful to see! ❤
Great song and Great reaction guys
Their best song is definitely Why? My favourite song ever. I'm old.😄
Beautiful song. Bought the original single at the time and friends explained the lyrics etc.
Still love it.
This has been on my play list for years
Jimmy, the singer, grew up gay in working-class Scotland in the 1970s/80s and had to leave that homophobic environment to come out and live his life. i recognise that as I did the same, at the same time, for the same reason. This was not to do with HIV or AIDS, this was years before that, though the song came out as that was arriving. The song deals with the homophobia that existed before AIDS and still exists today. I was very surprised that you chose this song because of 'Pride Month', you read all the lyrics and correctly identified what this song was about, and yet not once did either of you say the word 'gay' or 'homosexual', you did say 'straight' and mentioned HIV, so it felt like you were skirting around the word but for some reason couldn't let it pass your lips. That is the homophobia that Jimmy is singing about, 'the love that dare not speak its name', I think you showed that it still exists.
Daniel got it spot on. Good job.
You guys did a great job with this review ❤
He was also in the Communards after bronski beat.there is a video on here of a busker singing his song then he walks by and stops to join in.
I saw Jimmy Sommerville on a recent video and he still has that unique voice.
saw bronski beat at a free open air all day concert in london back in the 80's,they did a few songs then straight after announced his new band the comunards and they came on and sang couple of new songs but with bronski beat...fantastic also saw madness,ub40,maxi priest and loads of others there that day.
You should check out the video, "Streetmusician sings - Original singer comes along and joins him", where a busker is singing this song and Jimmy Somerville happened to be walking by so he joined him!
As someone who grew up on the streets of a major city trying to escape an abusive childhood this songs always gets me.
Coming out song. I’m straight
Hard to do back in the 80’s.
And plus to all you've discussed it's an awesome tune with great vocals
It's a great song and the amazing thing is .... the guy can still sing that high.
Great reaction 👍😎