First Ride 2023 KTM 300XC-W Fuel Injected Two Stroke - Dirt Bike Magazine
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- Опубліковано 27 жов 2024
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Dirt Bike Magazine tests the 2023 KTM 300XC-W two stroke on the trail. In the U.S., there are two different 300cc two-strokes that carry the KTM name: the 300XC and the 300XC-W. Up front, the two bikes seem very similar. They both have the most successful motor in KTM history; the 300cc two-stroke. Both have Transfer Port Injection, oil injection and six-speed transmissions. According to KTM’s overall plan, bikes in the XC line are viewed as cross-country racers. Those with the “W” suffix are more trail oriented. That, however, doesn’t stop anyone from lining up with W models in enduros and cross-country events all over the country, most specifically in the east. First and foremost, PDS rear suspension without linkage is used on the W. That means the WP Xplor shock is bolted directly to the swingarm. The spring is progressive and has dual rates of 60 and 66 Nm. The frame and swingarm are designed specifically to accommodate this system. On the XC-W, linkage is used to connect the Xact 5750 shock to the swingarm. A straight rate spring of 42 Nm is used. When a tight trail is littered with junk and it’s a struggle to just keep moving, there’s nothing better than the W.
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Just bought the 2023 KTM 300XC-W. I have around 7 hours on it now. I can't ride much because its 20 degrees all the time now and I'm a fair weathered rider lol. This bike is a power house, much smoother, more controllable power delivery vs my 2007 KTM 300 XC-W. Not to say my 07 is not an amazing bike, because I still love to ride it. $12,900 out the door, but I could honestly care less. Everyone complained about the $7,000 MSRP when I bought that bike way back when. This is more than enough bike for me and most average riders like myself. I'm excited to race the next season next spring.
Got the 2022 Erzbergrodeo, all bells and whistles for only a extra grand, fan all brake protectors and more, absolutely a beast in the trails
I picked one up in May, it's a super easy bike to ride, last time I was on a dirtbike was back in 2000 and that was a leftover 1999 cr250.... I'm not as good as then but the ktm makes up for that
So you still like it? Im 54. Want 1 more new 2 stroke. My 97 360 is needing a new home.
@@rdkndr1 I like it I just put about 5 hours on it in 2023 ... I enjoy riding my quad way more
Thanks, I just keep thinkin to get one before its too late. Fuel inject isnt all that bad. My 360 was 6000 dollars in 1997. Doubled in price. Looks like a great machine.
I LOVE my 22 model! I think it needs lighter fork oil as I feel there is a little too much compression damping. I fitted an Emduro Engineering brake pedal and a KTM fan early as I found the same thing you guys did. Also I put on a Motominded/Baja Designs headlight as the stock one is garbage…
2019 was the best TPI bike, go try one and you'll see, the suspension, motor and reliability was spot on. KTM tried to improve and slightly went off stroke, not to a detriment, but nothing is as good as a 19 TPI!
23 makes gobs more power and low-end grunt than your ancient 19
The old bikes perform just as great as the new fuel injected. I have a new 2022 300xcw. And I still prefer my old 2009 300xcw that I sold. I regret that. That's because the suspension was all dialed in. If the suspension isn't working for you. Then you need to take the time and become a suspension expert.
Piston, ring and cylinder manufacturers are happy that at least one KTM model is still TPI. 😂
I still ride my 2001 KTM - 300 EXC !!!!!!
That Motor Just Wants to R U N & R U N !!!!!!!
It’s Never Let Me Down …………………………………
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They need to work with ski too (brp) on oil injection, doo has had it dialed forever.
Is Dirtbike Magazine Canadian? You quoted the Canadian MSRP which is why I ask. And I agree, it is outrageous. I know fuel costs have raised the price of everything, but these bikes (and Yamaha's, as I have been looking at them as well) have gone up a lot in price in the last few years.
I think after market parts like suspension that comes stock now upped the price a bit.
$12,500 for a 2-stroke dirt bike is 100% price gouging
It aint tricking if you got it!!
Only $11,099 in wa state gas gas is $10,399 and husky is $11,399
Just got mine for 10,450 from a dealer! Little bit of haggling involved though
@@cartersmith3544 Congrats. What did you get? What was the out the door price after taxes. prep fees and Freight which is 535? I just bought the 2023 250 XC Today!! Tough Choice between that and the 300!!
@@MR.TOYBOX I got the 300 xcw! Out the door I needed up spending about 11,800 all things included. Very excited to take it on its first ride but also very nervous I’ve never had a brand new bike let alone a fuel injected 2 stroke! If you have any tips it would be much appreciated
I still have my 2005 300 EXC and just cannot part with it. No injection, no electric start but it is so fun to ride. I also have a '22 500 EXC-F. I ride them both and love them both. But I agree with the masses, the prices are getting out of control. But, you can't blame me, I didn't vote for him.
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@@hojkontot Herr fuehrer, Klaus Scheiblin. That's who he's talking about.
The lowest price I can find new is $7699 from Jacksonville FL. The 24s are going for $11,499. If it wasn't a 1500 mile trip I would go pick one up today.
I want an XC-W with a TBI!
@Mike B I'd prefer carb, but tbi is the next best thing
The whole point of a 2 stroke is to keep a low price point and easy maintenance in your garage and not spend 150 an hour for a mechanic. Who ever thought not putting a kick starter on was probably the same designer that thought a car didn't need a oil dipstick.
This bike is very light for enduro riders
Well at least we can still add a kick starter and a aftermarket tbi kit.
And just so you know they are week stick compared to a 12 to 16 bike .
Still on my 21. No need to change as its the same bike.
Do you know what the dB level is on stock 300 XC-Ws? Will they pass the 94dB test?
Kymco barrel and head and sub standard vertex piston
Reliablity????
What octane fuel runs best in one of these? I currently ride a 09 yz250 and I run 95 octane leaded and it runs best that way. Looking at one of these specially if it will run well on Pump Gas. Easier to find.
My old man has a ‘22 husky te150i which uses TPI and he just runs good ol’ 91 from the pump in it and his motor’s running good
TBI please. 2024 model is what I’m waiting for. Skip tpi😎
Watch highland cycles vid about this I think he’s onto something 😁
What drone are you using ?
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Flush on the case with powerband adjustment seem to be the average on more then one bike?
Has anyone plated this bike for those VERY short trips into town or down a highway to the next trail??
SICASS racing makes a horn/brake light/tag light/plate mount kit for this bike, I just installed one on my '22. If your state requires blinkers they make another kit with them. No emissions/inspections in my state so YMMV if your state does. I believe it boils down to your title and whether or not it's titled as an orv or on highway vehicle.
I bought this bike ( ktm 300 xc-w) back in December and its been crap from day I got it home! less than 10 hrs on it been in the shop 4 times same thing every time wont start will die during a ride flooding and fouling the plug. every time I take it in they tell me the same thing doesn't throw a code has to do with the fuel injection or some screw for the air to fuel mixture I'm over it!! I will say tho when its running its a power house. I'm sure I just got that lemon ( diamond in the rough)
The 2024 XC-W will have all the new changes.
what new changes?
@@shopcomfycove the same changes as the mx models, like the different frame/shock setup and the tbi injection instead of the tpi
@@shopcomfycove chassis, shock, fuel delivery method, electronic exhaust valve, swing arm, foot peg position Ect.
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the price is $12,300? is that after freight and tax? TPI came out in 2019? hmm..
They quoted the Canadian MSRP. I think TPI was 2018, but I could be wrong. I'm not sure how the emissions regulations work in Europe, but I suspect the TPI is cleaner than TBI can be. They may not be able to change the XCW's to TBI depending on how the rules work.
@@GNR325 yeah i was kind of asking in a rhetorical way lol. usually they quote USD because they're a american based publication. 2018 was the year we got TPI you are correct
@@GNR325 but i must note that technically he's not wrong about TPI coming on the 300 in 2019. the 2018, in the usa at least, was the only TPI version that year.
My 2018 xcw has a carb. The XCW was the last enduro model to get tpi.
KTM 300 durability has really dropped since the advent of TPI, especially for those who ride in colder temperatures. Piston seizures are far more common, often within 25 hours. And you are right, that there can be a big difference as to ride ability between different examples. KTM has outsourced piston and cylinder manufacturing, resulting in a loss in quality. Sadly the prices keep going up. Your 30 day guarantee won’t help you much. Some guys get good ones, some guys don’t. I have bought 7 new KTM/ Huskies in the last decade, and the pre mix bikes were far more reliable. It will be really interesting to see what the 2024 300 XCW will look like. TBI will help with the cold seizure issue as the injected fuel will help the injected oil penetrate the block when cold and thick. A return to premix will do the same.
That is why I am getting the new 2023 XC 300 vs the XCW 300. Plus it has a mid ratio transmission and a 3rd gear almost the same as the SX 300. Cant wait!!
I wonder if you could add a little oil to the gas on a TPI bike without problems?
I have a 2016 model I bought after doing some research. It's a terrible bike for the Mojave desert. Too light, dances too much, and no link sucks. Motor is magical though.
The thumbnail showed a street legal one
Bring back normal releases
Who’s the rider 🤔🤭
they better not change or i'm gone to Beta.
I'll pay. Don't change !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The 23 300XC is better
for you or everybody?
200rrre best bike
It’s definitely more snappy, just tested one last weekend, way more snappier than the xcw. For hills the xcw wins, for more track conditions xc wins
The price reflects global inflation. Everything is more expensive to manufacture, transport etc.
Still no led light lol. So tired of KTM and its ignorant customers. Sickening
Sounds like you need to get out for a ride.
Anger management is your friend.
L'ADORO,ma i prezzi sono assurdi,continuo a tenermi la mia 300 exc del 2001,divertimento identico ;)