Jimothy Cool is shilling for TPC, making the misleading claim that you could "ride around on an ancient bicycle" and see "the Pokemon Iron Jugulis" when you can't do both in the same game... Such a shame to see a voice of the people lost like this.
I followed along like “oooh yeah this is going to be pretty overwhelming, community is gonna struggle to check this thing” then you went “oh btw it has spikes now” and I’m like WHAT?!
Interesting to note that we got a patch for Scarlet and Violet on the 24th, which i assume is what caused the confusion in the first place. Not sure why they bothered to go back on their word and clarify it wasnt meant to release on the 24th if they were going to do it a week later
Another thing is that Espathra has stab on stored power, so thats why they are hesitant on allowing it back. Not that it justifies the magearna decision it is way too strong, though it will be nice to try for the first few days before it gets quick banned.
I saw that Finch was in favor of Chien Pao getting unbanned and Regieleki will be legal, plus the threats of Roaring Moon and Iron Valiant that are already in OU, makes me thing that using Lando-I in OU might not be as broken as previous gens, I think it's worth a shot
After a 14 hour drive (yes for real) there's nothing I've looked forward to more than tucking into bed, and learning about how Magearna is going to wreck the meta like that drive wrecked my knee
Great video jimothy! just one small mistake I noticed, you said towards the beginning of the video you could "see the Pokemon iron jugulis", which is a common mistake people make as this Pokemon is not real. hope this helps!
At the beginning of Smogon Gen 9 National Dex I used a Leftovers, Shift Gear, Calm Mind, Stored Power and Draining Kiss set with Tera Psychic for boosted Stored Power with a defensive spread and it was really good because most mons that checked it would get obliterated by the Tera boosted Stored Power, even specially defensive Heatran or even Blissey wouldn't be able to do much against this beast. Honestly I believe that Magearna will be too busted for OU but I hope it will have a neat niche in Ubers.
I can’t wait for people to start using Fluffy Houndstone as the most crackhead Annihilape counter ever. Or more realistically, some random spinblocker to further intensify Big Hazard’s grip on the modern world.
I am afraid that Chi-Yu has gone missing. Latest expeditions to its shrine have proven fruitless, as the shrine had been opened, and Chi-ayu was nowhere to be seen. It is my hypothesis that Iron Mugulis has convinced Chi-Yu to join the world of crime and sabotage.
Weakness policy 200Hp/68Def/240 Spe Bold outspeeds +1 great tusk after shift gear, survives 94% of times headlong rush from offensive great tusk, and with stored power, dazzling gleam and aura sphere can snowball very quickly
Tbf even without it Mag still seems op, the best counter to it is Tera steel clodsire, which if your forced to run one mon just to counter it the it wont last a week in ou
I think Espathra and Mag just stack boosts way too easily with their movepools and abilities and they're hard to meaningfully wear down. No one's complaining about Stored Power Hat, for example bc it stays slow, can only calm mind, and can't roost
With the council votes, currently any Pokémon that have been banned to Ubers before in the current SV metagame must receive a supermajority vote to return to OU- and any newly introduced Pokémon from Home must receive a supermajority to be banned FROM OU. So while magearna only narrowly avoided a supermajority ban, Espathra avoided a supermajority retest… This must be the influence of Old Money tipping the scales for chaos.
With Haze and Unaware being arguably more common in gen 9 than gen 8, and with how tera changes matchups against Magearna, it might be less a case that Magearna being truly OU and more the current game mechanics give more Pokemon a means to challenge Magearna in 1v1. Here's to hoping it still gets banned to Ubers anyway though. Magearna is so strong at base that it will come to rule the tiers it falls to if it ends up in UU or even NU one day.
i think that espanthra can be even more bronken than magearna cause of speed boost, while magearna needs to use shift gear + calm mind and then cosmic power, espantra is just calm mind, protect and cosmic power, is just faster and can get more moves
I know people that are upset for the quick-ban of Lando I. Well... +2 252+ SpA Life Orb Sheer Force Tera Ground Landorus Earth Power vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Vessel of Ruin Ting-Lu: 416-491 (80.9 - 95.5%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock +2 252+ SpA Life Orb Sheer Force Tera Ground Landorus Sandsear Storm vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Vessel of Ruin Ting-Lu: 463-546 (90 - 106.2%) -- 75% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
For me a smart way to play Magerna is to play it similarly to double dance miradon, you can use agility and calm mind like miradon or swap agility with shift gear(both work well), draining kiss for constant healing and a 4th move to counter huge threats(prefer tera blast ground for resistances, but moves like psyshock, aura sphere and stored power work)
Mostly feel like I'd enjoy H-Samurott a lot simply 'cause I compared him to Jestream Sam because... "Jetstream Samurott" and his color scheme fits the Desperado one.
THERE WILL BE BLOODSHED I have literally never played this game I am just intrigued by the great boss music and the hidden meanings behind the lyrics, MEMES, and senator Armstrong is one of the most quotable meme characters.
Most of the problem is a result of Tera exacerbating the issues with already strong pokemon since offensive counterplay can be limited and losing a turn to something like Magearna, Espathra, or Annihilape often means the entire game
I didn’t think there would ever be anyone who wanted Espathra back in OU. Such a toxic pokemon, and i still remember how awful the times where it was popular were
Its very simple. Smogon ALWAYS put it ou at first in hopes that it might be balanced only to realise everytime its a catastrophie. They did this last gen and they will do this next gen aswell Edit: i say this because it was a running gag in lobbies when i first started playing showdown.
I think Espethra was only so strong, because it has speed boost. Speed boost alone isn't the reason, but it's definitely a major factor. Without speed boost Espathra would be another Sigilyph. Espathra is able to boost its attack power and speed every turn by doing nothing. When you mix that with it's boosting ability it becomes blatantly unfair. Especially if it gets a shed tail or screens. Magearna can't get stronger without killing something and can't get stronger by being passive. I will admit, I think it'll be broken, but I like the fact that Magearna can be outsped and killed, unlike Espathra.
I was thinking instead of Calm mind to use Magnetic flux but I can't find any concrete info on whether it actually does raise the users stats regardless of allies present with plus or minus. Does anyone know? The reason I thought Magnetic flux over calm mind would be better is to cover more stat gains. With Sp Atk being raised on anyone on the field fainting, making room and raising both defense while passively getting that would be adding way more to stored power no? Also for the 4th move I thought Fleur Cannon would be better to cover more ground and the STAB, not sure if it's worth losing the power from fleur cannon to go down to Draining kiss for healing opportunities but I feel that would be more reliant on having calm mind than Magnetic flux like I suggested (and still asuming Magnetic flux does what I was asking)
Magearna was on 90% of my teams in gen 7 singles OU then it got banned in gen 8! That thing is extremely broken and its gonna get banned quickly like mentioned in this video. You basically have to hard counter it immediately or its gg!
Bascu is probably gonna be good in both genders, fem has a respectable 100 spa, with access to shadow ball, hydro pump, surf, and ice beam, but lacks priority, male has liquidation, wave crash to go unga bunga choice band, crunch, psychic fangs and aqua jet, but lacks a good ghost stab move since last respects is banned and phantom force is poopoo.
Yeah like you give last respects to like something random even if it’s super frail just by existing it’s a grave threat while if something frail had rage fist it would not be super good
For your point on Espathra, they haven’t revealed the results on if it will be allowed in OU again or not, so it’s possible it is allowed since Magearna is allowed.
jimothy desperately apologising to the pokemon company at the start is way too funny to me also yeah scarlet and violet are pretty solid games, go play them/s
They're heavily flawed but the story, gameplay and world have a decent amount of heart to them. I think gamefreak are just Hella incompetent and unaware at times rather than not really caring like some people say.
@@daniellejackson6543 the games have some merit to them, they were definitely rushed but I see them as a huge step in the right direction, they've finally nailed the open world mechanic for a mainline game, now it needs polishing
I don't like being negative, but up to this point I've hated gen9 ou. Hopefully home helps it, though with this weird choice it's obvious day one will suck.
Lmao lmao I don't believe it silly ahh blehhh they are not gonna release it the 30 mehh they are gonna pospose it again and you cannot make me believe them blehhh
0:00 Pokemon Home Re-Announcement
0:47 OU Council Decisions.
1:53 My Thoughts on the Magearna Decision.
3:47 Magearna Sets for Day 1.
Jimothy Cool is shilling for TPC, making the misleading claim that you could "ride around on an ancient bicycle" and see "the Pokemon Iron Jugulis" when you can't do both in the same game... Such a shame to see a voice of the people lost like this.
if only mr cool told me which game i could befriend Old Money in
@@boop53its in the third game Pokemon Emerald Green
Except in the post game you can?
@@tonberry2670 not in the wild.
@ while you’re connecting your game with someone that has Violet, iron Jugulis will appear in Scarlet
Finch and the council did it, they beat the Big Stall allegations.
Well, I mean, they had to unleash Magearna into OU to do it, but it's a start.
Well finch voted ban on magearna. He's still the biggest supporters of big stall™, a fact never changes.
Magearna should try using The past form of spoink..Steamed hams. It's ability, well steamed body has the power to redirect earthquake to it in doubles
Be careful of its side effect though, if it activates it spawns Aurora Veil on the opponent's team.
@@bluekirby_64 good thing it can run court change
There is a past time form of magearna-diancie... Mag is robo dian
But you're not allowed to see the aurora veil to even know when to time your court change.
@@saltlakeatrocity9771 the steam from the hams melts the aurora veil
Scarlet and violet being “high quality” is.... stretching it😂
I followed along like “oooh yeah this is going to be pretty overwhelming, community is gonna struggle to check this thing” then you went “oh btw it has spikes now” and I’m like WHAT?!
Bro... Idk if you try to be, but you are hilarious. The subtitle/passive humor cracks me up. Anyway, appreciate your videos.
Letting Magearna in OU is a strange decision, don't tell me this was Iron Mugulis again?
I think you're onto something.
@@jimothycool 🤔
Magearna @ Light Clay
Ability: Soul-Heart
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Spikes
- Reflect
- Light Screen
- Dazzling Gleam
let me cook
Klefki but worse
3:07 “I think Espathra and Magearna are evi-EQUAL”
True feelings leaking through
well they are both evil yes
“I apologize for everything I’ve said”
Pokémon Tomorrow: sorry that was another mistake! Home will come soon!
my favorite part of the video was when Jim said “it’s Jugulin’ time” and the proceeded to show numerous examples of Iron Jugulis 6-0 sweeps
Interesting to note that we got a patch for Scarlet and Violet on the 24th, which i assume is what caused the confusion in the first place. Not sure why they bothered to go back on their word and clarify it wasnt meant to release on the 24th if they were going to do it a week later
Cant believe that Iron Mugulis killed and replaced Finchinator to unban Magerena and Regeleki
I don't see a single counter for Magearna in this format... very cool! Who can win with theirs first, then?
Tera Steel Unaware Clodsire
@@thatsabruhmoment17 If you gotta specifically run this to deal with Magearna, I don't see this thing lasting an entire hour in OU
Dirge (mag will still be banned tho)
Mag will be banned within the first week.
Tera Steel Unaware Dondozo
Another thing is that Espathra has stab on stored power, so thats why they are hesitant on allowing it back. Not that it justifies the magearna decision it is way too strong, though it will be nice to try for the first few days before it gets quick banned.
Specs outta use Trick to cripple walls. It’s what made that set so good in Gen 8.
I saw that Finch was in favor of Chien Pao getting unbanned and Regieleki will be legal, plus the threats of Roaring Moon and Iron Valiant that are already in OU, makes me thing that using Lando-I in OU might not be as broken as previous gens, I think it's worth a shot
After a 14 hour drive (yes for real) there's nothing I've looked forward to more than tucking into bed, and learning about how Magearna is going to wreck the meta like that drive wrecked my knee
Iron Mugulis may have been defeated for now, but I can only imagine what other horrors it has in store for us.
Do basculegion male and female count as separate pokemon because it would be interesting to see both forms in different tiers
Pokemon formes are tiered differently if they have different stats or typing, so they would be tiered differently (similar to Indeedee)
You can't use both on the same team cause of species clause, but they could be Tiered differently for sure
I think Indeede is regarded as two different Pokemon so I think they would be too.
Its just like Indedee
Love how between the "perks" of playing gen 9 is just "Iron Jugulis"
Iron Jugulis is the most popular and well received Pokemon in the entire Franchise.
Not to be confused with at large felon, Iron Mugulis
Great video jimothy! just one small mistake I noticed, you said towards the beginning of the video you could "see the Pokemon iron jugulis", which is a common mistake people make as this Pokemon is not real. hope this helps!
tru
I do want to see a no-tera meta for singles, at least as an experiment if nothing else.
Imagine garganacl actually being rock-type. I'm hype.
Cant stop Home forever, Iron Mugulis. We're coming for you.
At the beginning of Smogon Gen 9 National Dex I used a Leftovers, Shift Gear, Calm Mind, Stored Power and Draining Kiss set with Tera Psychic for boosted Stored Power with a defensive spread and it was really good because most mons that checked it would get obliterated by the Tera boosted Stored Power, even specially defensive Heatran or even Blissey wouldn't be able to do much against this beast. Honestly I believe that Magearna will be too busted for OU but I hope it will have a neat niche in Ubers.
I can’t wait for people to start using Fluffy Houndstone as the most crackhead Annihilape counter ever.
Or more realistically, some random spinblocker to further intensify Big Hazard’s grip on the modern world.
Magearna can't touch assault vest iron mugulis lets be honest
Quickly use chi yu 252 spa specs overheat on iron muglus sobit doesnt get delayed
I am afraid that Chi-Yu has gone missing. Latest expeditions to its shrine have proven fruitless, as the shrine had been opened, and Chi-ayu was nowhere to be seen.
It is my hypothesis that Iron Mugulis has convinced Chi-Yu to join the world of crime and sabotage.
0:26 you can just tell iron fellow is holding him at gunpoint. there’s no way jim would ever call iron jugulis “good”
Weakness policy 200Hp/68Def/240 Spe Bold outspeeds +1 great tusk after shift gear, survives 94% of times headlong rush from offensive great tusk, and with stored power, dazzling gleam and aura sphere can snowball very quickly
I feel that the main problem is stored power itself, not so much these pokemon
I think Magearna is still extremely powerful even without Stored Power
Tbf even without it Mag still seems op, the best counter to it is Tera steel clodsire, which if your forced to run one mon just to counter it the it wont last a week in ou
I think Espathra and Mag just stack boosts way too easily with their movepools and abilities and they're hard to meaningfully wear down. No one's complaining about Stored Power Hat, for example bc it stays slow, can only calm mind, and can't roost
The high framerate and Iron Jugulis joke cracked me up.
Magearna in OU is surely a Christopher Nolan's Oppenheimer moment
Jim, your opening remarks had me in stitches. 😂😭😂😭
Watch them pull the biggest stall play of 2023 and delay it till June 30th
I play doubles so here's mine...
Magearna @ Leftovers
Ability: Soul-Heart
Tera Type: Steel/Fire
EVs: 240 HP / 130 Def / 140 SpD
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Dazzling Gleam
- Flash Cannon
- Imprison
- Trick Room
With the council votes, currently any Pokémon that have been banned to Ubers before in the current SV metagame must receive a supermajority vote to return to OU- and any newly introduced Pokémon from Home must receive a supermajority to be banned FROM OU. So while magearna only narrowly avoided a supermajority ban, Espathra avoided a supermajority retest… This must be the influence of Old Money tipping the scales for chaos.
Jimothy Cool moment!
With Haze and Unaware being arguably more common in gen 9 than gen 8, and with how tera changes matchups against Magearna, it might be less a case that Magearna being truly OU and more the current game mechanics give more Pokemon a means to challenge Magearna in 1v1.
Here's to hoping it still gets banned to Ubers anyway though. Magearna is so strong at base that it will come to rule the tiers it falls to if it ends up in UU or even NU one day.
i think that espanthra can be even more bronken than magearna cause of speed boost, while magearna needs to use shift gear + calm mind and then cosmic power, espantra is just calm mind, protect and cosmic power, is just faster and can get more moves
So Magearna will change competitive forever?
It will change competitive Pokemon for 1 week until it gets banned.
@@jimothycool time to spam it for that 1 week then
tru
I know people that are upset for the quick-ban of Lando I. Well...
+2 252+ SpA Life Orb Sheer Force Tera Ground Landorus Earth Power vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Vessel of Ruin Ting-Lu: 416-491 (80.9 - 95.5%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
+2 252+ SpA Life Orb Sheer Force Tera Ground Landorus Sandsear Storm vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Vessel of Ruin Ting-Lu: 463-546 (90 - 106.2%) -- 75% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
Nice info
YES!!!!!! ANOTHER JIMOTHY COOL UPLOAD LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Real shit? I think gamefreak might be trying to make ubers a more interesting format.
For me a smart way to play Magerna is to play it similarly to double dance miradon, you can use agility and calm mind like miradon or swap agility with shift gear(both work well), draining kiss for constant healing and a 4th move to counter huge threats(prefer tera blast ground for resistances, but moves like psyshock, aura sphere and stored power work)
The day Tera is banned is the day I quit Smogon.
They said they wanted to make it easier to play around, not ban it
ah yes, the robot will be the meta of gen 9
“Home on the 30th? We’re just announcing the home the home delay on the 30th”
they give groudon spikes and rayquaza stealth rock and u turn
Now THAT's a u-turn !
I want it delayed again, because it would be *_really_* funny.
Mostly feel like I'd enjoy H-Samurott a lot simply 'cause I compared him to Jestream Sam because...
"Jetstream Samurott" and his color scheme fits the Desperado one.
THERE WILL BE BLOODSHED
I have literally never played this game I am just intrigued by the great boss music and the hidden meanings behind the lyrics, MEMES, and senator Armstrong is one of the most quotable meme characters.
Don't you see. They need mag to deal with iron mugz bro. GF has been pulling the strings the whole time...😮
im very excited to see basculegion unbanned without last respects, im running pelipper, basc male and basc female for day 1
Did they not learn a thing from previous gens where Magearna wrecked OU for a few weeks before getting quickbanned?
Knowing the pokemon company, i can’t trust them
I like stored power with draining kiss for magerna
Fakemon Kingambit with Last Respects
Iron Mugulis was with a gun behind his head in 0:26
Trueee
Most of the problem is a result of Tera exacerbating the issues with already strong pokemon since offensive counterplay can be limited and losing a turn to something like Magearna, Espathra, or Annihilape often means the entire game
Mag is busted as af even without Tera. Typing is one of the best. It doesn't rely Tera thaaat much. Just positive addition
Magearna resists electric? 6:44
Electric is nuetral into magearna iirc. It is only hit for weakness by fire and ground.
this is def not gonna be pushed back right
right.....
I didn’t think there would ever be anyone who wanted Espathra back in OU. Such a toxic pokemon, and i still remember how awful the times where it was popular were
Its very simple. Smogon ALWAYS put it ou at first in hopes that it might be balanced only to realise everytime its a catastrophie. They did this last gen and they will do this next gen aswell
Edit: i say this because it was a running gag in lobbies when i first started playing showdown.
I think Espethra was only so strong, because it has speed boost. Speed boost alone isn't the reason, but it's definitely a major factor. Without speed boost Espathra would be another Sigilyph.
Espathra is able to boost its attack power and speed every turn by doing nothing. When you mix that with it's boosting ability it becomes blatantly unfair. Especially if it gets a shed tail or screens.
Magearna can't get stronger without killing something and can't get stronger by being passive. I will admit, I think it'll be broken, but I like the fact that Magearna can be outsped and killed, unlike Espathra.
Wait, did they have to delay it because they accidentally allowed Iron Mugulis to be ported back to the prior gens??
They stopped the menace!
I was thinking instead of Calm mind to use Magnetic flux but I can't find any concrete info on whether it actually does raise the users stats regardless of allies present with plus or minus. Does anyone know? The reason I thought Magnetic flux over calm mind would be better is to cover more stat gains. With Sp Atk being raised on anyone on the field fainting, making room and raising both defense while passively getting that would be adding way more to stored power no?
Also for the 4th move I thought Fleur Cannon would be better to cover more ground and the STAB, not sure if it's worth losing the power from fleur cannon to go down to Draining kiss for healing opportunities but I feel that would be more reliant on having calm mind than Magnetic flux like I suggested (and still asuming Magnetic flux does what I was asking)
Magearna was on 90% of my teams in gen 7 singles OU then it got banned in gen 8! That thing is extremely broken and its gonna get banned quickly like mentioned in this video. You basically have to hard counter it immediately or its gg!
The elemental punches should be boosted to 90bp
Watch Gamefreak retract that announcement too 😂
It's probably because Espathra snowballs by existing, while Magearna has to KO things.
I mean it's not a dealbreaker but Masculegion now lacks physical ghost STAB
Rain team with basculegion and floatzel.
Calm Mind
Iron Defense
Draining Kiss
Stored Power
Leftovers
252HP
252DEF
4SpDef
Bascu is probably gonna be good in both genders, fem has a respectable 100 spa, with access to shadow ball, hydro pump, surf, and ice beam, but lacks priority, male has liquidation, wave crash to go unga bunga choice band, crunch, psychic fangs and aqua jet, but lacks a good ghost stab move since last respects is banned and phantom force is poopoo.
Regieleki has been voted, it'll be OU. So in fact, tera water Magearna might not be as viable for now.
To be fair people get really mad when quickbans arent done, like we really dont need another Genesect situation.
they will allow magesrna but ban last respects iron bundle and palafin
Magearna is broken
Magearna is broken
Espathra is much more broken than magearna, or really any other setup sweeper. Speed boost + stored power is truly cursed.
So dumb question, why is last respects banned but not rage fist, they both are moves that end up being at least 300 that snowball quickly.
Because rage fist is on primape and isn't broken, but last respects would be broken on any pokemon it's given to.
Yeah like you give last respects to like something random even if it’s super frail just by existing it’s a grave threat while if something frail had rage fist it would not be super good
1 mf who use melmetal and magearna trick room team won a tournament had them banned in natdex
For your point on Espathra, they haven’t revealed the results on if it will be allowed in OU again or not, so it’s possible it is allowed since Magearna is allowed.
Enjoy Magearna for 48 hours everyone
jimothy desperately apologising to the pokemon company at the start is way too funny to me
also yeah scarlet and violet are pretty solid games, go play them/s
They're heavily flawed but the story, gameplay and world have a decent amount of heart to them. I think gamefreak are just Hella incompetent and unaware at times rather than not really caring like some people say.
@@daniellejackson6543 the games have some merit to them, they were definitely rushed but I see them as a huge step in the right direction, they've finally nailed the open world mechanic for a mainline game, now it needs polishing
regieleki is going to be batshit broken
specs electro ball OHKOs amoonguss without tera.
They delated it by 1 wek? Ra- (smashes comupter with psysheild bash and the wyrdeer vid ain't gonna happen)
She's just doing her job if getting banned in multiple gens
I don't like being negative, but up to this point I've hated gen9 ou. Hopefully home helps it, though with this weird choice it's obvious day one will suck.
Clodsire hard counter
Watch it be Spikes that cause it to get banned...😂
Ursaluna tbh
Wait until they ban tera
Sellout hahahahahha
Smogon council doesn’t care what you think. They cater to their likes and preferences above all else.
Lmao lmao I don't believe it silly ahh blehhh they are not gonna release it the 30 mehh they are gonna pospose it again and you cannot make me believe them blehhh
Serebii
Awesome name, Moro. 😂
@@Ozymandias1111 Thanks lil bro under babidi's spell 👌