That may not be true. I believe that the California State government is very troublesome to reform. One idea is to apportion representation by county (i.e. one or two representatives per county) rather than a certain number of representatives for a certain heads in each county. This would prevent populous cities from dominating politics which affect the rural areas. Since people living in rural areas are not as prone to thinking that they can micromanage the lives of others, it would balance the power somewhat. The only problem is I doubt that the cities would voluntarily let power slip from their hands by allowing such a reform. It would probably be best if they broke away. It would involve less fighting with the southern cities to have more say, and there is no reason they can't do business with eachother after the political division.
Sections of a state should be able to forcibly secede from their parent state without leaving the overall nation. My vassals in CK2 do it to each other all the time, and I don't give a shit.
@Jeff Goodman i just drove through there. NOBODY lives there. To sucessfully run a state you need money. How tf would they get any infrastructure or anything else without taxing at a high rate. (You cant) it sounds nice but money doesnt grow on trees.
I would so move to Jefferson if it became a state. A little homestead would be lovely and not have to deal with the Nazi like government of Commiefornia.
My folks just finished building a home I designed for them in Shasta county. I am really hoping this goes through. I'll move out of Sonoma county and take my Architect's License to the new state of Jefferson!
Citizen Brain I had friends in Sonoma. Some beautiful land out there. I wanted to live out there for the longest time but it's probably way out of my price range.
I have so much respect for these Americans. Northern Californians are good ol country folks. Who blames them for wanting to be their own state. Why should someone from San Diego have a say in how Yreka residents live their life? I want Texas to succeed. Why should someone from New York or Washington have the right to tell us how we should live? I love the people of rural Northern California. They're normal, hard working farmers ,etc. LA? San Francisco? Not so much.
+Ken Banghart Reality, more often than not, is a collection of erroneous societal fears and prejudices. Fits right in with your defeatist attitude. LOL
I grew up in Arizona and I remember my 4th grade teacher telling me there was a movement in Northern California to create a 51st state. That was 35 years ago. I see it is still going strong. I hope they succeed.
I won't say that a lot of people in California wants to break up the state, but there have been many proposals to do such a thing. This really isn't just an issue for the State of Jefferson, but also the Central Valley and Southern California as well. Pretty much 12 million people in a state of 30 million people have their opinion silenced which to me is just wrong.
@@kbanghart I really don’t think you bothered looking at the district map and who represents the districts but please, keep regurgitating whatever the mainstream media tells you 😂
It's been tried a few times before. If you are local then I invite you to attend one of the many town hall meetings going on around the state. There is a lot of information put out to include what has happen historically and where we are going forward.
I 100% support this! The more decentralized power is, the better! So go with the republicanism instead of statehood, if you can. I really don't understand why people label this as far-fetched, whacky, etc. I see a video about this on the right side of my screen entitled "GOP NUT Baggery" and even this video at 0:34, the narrator calls it "the seemingly impossible"; America was founded on this, this is a core principle of America, it shouldn't be alien at all.
True. We got multiple states out of Territories. Counties have merged in the last couple of years. States are corporations, not sacred entities. They can be merged, split, disbanded, formed - like any corporation. No big deal.
I grew up in Yreka. It's a small town of almost 8,000 but it's the largest town in far Northern California. The industry there has been decimated in the last 30 years. Fishing, mining, lumber, everything. All because of the Democrats and environmentalists. The only viable industry is marijuana and the government still plays their little cat and mouse game with growers.
Same with us in Humboldt, Eureka used to be a lovely logging town before the Democrats came in with their environmental regulations; Now my town is struggling to get by with fishing and cannabis farming(Which we actually managed to turn into a bit of a small industry around here) while enduring the absurd regulations and taxes set upon us by our incompetent governor Moonbeam.
@@Chris-hp9be why don't you liberals go after tech companies and their mining opporations and insane levels of polution, instead of destroying entire townsively hoods? You know all that paper and wood that make everything? Well wtf do you think it comes from?
@@kbanghart but us libertarians will. Every state has the power to have a very well regulated militia to obtain a free state. Along with sufficient arms and ammunition. Its litteraly in our constitution. We will abide by the supreme law of the land you despise
@@timpoolsbeanie2296 try what? We have already done it. We are not allowing the state of Jefferson to take place, and we have gun laws in place in california.
@@gunner4lyfe723 I think you should buy more guns and ammunition. I always laugh when people like you do, that means you have less money to spend on other stuff :)
"When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them" The best kept secret of the Declaration of Independence is that the principle of political separation is completely scalable, down to the individual level. If people ever woke up to this fact governments would quickly unravel.
"We're taxed, but we have no say over how those taxes are spent" Uhh...this is basically every single person in the country, not just a clump of rural towns in northern California.
This is in big part because of the Supreme Court ruling of Reynolds vs Sims in 1964. Each county in California used to have its own State Senator, like many other states. Reynolds vs Sims stripped that and made it population based like the Assembly. It's not the perfect example, but when you go from potential 11 to 14 State Senators for this area to 2 State Senators we really have no voice.
Kizone Kaprow GO FUCK YOURSELF! The Dimwitted Are The Democrats And The LIBERALS And Most Of The Republicans! The Solution Is NOT Anarchy You Dumbass Dip Shit! "WE" Have A Constitution That Everyone Seems To Have Forgotten About! "WE" Should Have Only Common Law (That The Constitution Was Written In!) NOT Admiralty Law! NOT Federal Law!
what we need is more young people like myself to get into the state of Jefferson, its all about our future and if we can get the younger generation too keep of the fight then sooner or later I think it will happen.
I'm 38. I'm going. I'm leaving the bay area and moving to the state if Jefferson....and I'm not bringing any commiefornia politics w me....I'm all Jefferson all the way.
It would definitely be in Jefferson's interest to be a coastal state, but I was surprised to see Mendocino and Humboldt counties included in its borders. They are a couple of the most liberal counties in the state. It may be more of a libertarian-leaning rural liberalism rather than a San Francisco liberalism, but they seem to be plenty statist at the ballot box. Is there actually significant support for secession in the coastal counties, or was that map just being hopeful?
Now I understand the importance of smaller states, as the needs of the many in large states end up outweighing the needs of the few in the smaller bits of these states. :O
Where do the people of eastern washington get a say in things while the folk in western washington burn up money left and right on tunnel boring machines, and runway expansion? projects which may likely never benefit these people of eastern washington.
If JEFFERSON is formed properly...NO state income tax, REASONABLE property & sales tax, SMALL Gov't model, & COMMON SENSE LAWS WRITTEN IN PLAIN ENGLISH (NOT lawyer double-speak that can be read as "a" today & "b" tomorrow.) I would sell my house & land, & move there IMMEDIATELY. GO JEFFERSON!!!!!!!!
I support state succession 100% and I wish people of northern California and southern Oregon the best in their pursuit. In fact, I'd go as far as to support the idea of states throwing counties and cities out since I'd love to see my state, Pennsylvania, throw out Philadelphia.
I feel that this is a good move, Statehood or Republic, as long as it's a place that holds Libertarian principles, and upholds the ideology outlined by the US Constitution. Hasn't Texas been trying to become a Republic as well?
Kizone Kaprow I don't know about the "Utopia" part. I know of no Libertarian that strives for a Utopian society. They don't kid themselves in that aspect. There will never be Utopia.
Honestly california shouldnt have a problem since their population will have a net gain in political representation in the senate And if people have a problem with Wyoming having three electoral votes, why let Puerto Rico become a state but not Jefferson
As a person in Tehama county I fully support a possible state of Jefferson. This is not even about whether you are a liberal or a republican, the counties which would become part of Jefferson are so much more different than the south. Whenever I travel anywhere past Sacramento it's like a completely different world. The population is millions different, the political atmosphere is different, the culture is different, the distaste for government intrusion in the north is growing, and like they said, the north is always ignored. Anyone who thinks these two extremely different areas could and should be under the same state and government is a fool.
I very much respect the intent of this division, you are 100% correct that the State of CA is no longer serving in anyone's best interest, but in particular, yours and other rural areas within the state, or in underpopulated parts of the state like the Central Coastal counties of San Luis Obispo, Santa Barbara, Ventura and Kern, etc. My only wish is that I could move into the most beautiful by far part of my state, right next to you folks!!!
Screw the our u.s governments they are one of the biggest criminals and the biggest liars in in this America it is time to secede everyone in this country have already been fed up with governments BS way before any states became part of the USA they were doing just fine !
I am from Redding, but now live in SO ORegon. Why is Oregon no longer participating in this separation, I am all for it. We in So Oregon have no voice either.
You can't leave southern Oregon out of the State of Jefferson! We also lack an incredible amount of representation in our state. Years ago, southern Oregon was involved in the conversation.
If the State of Jefferson gets passed, I'm defiantly packing up my stuff from the East Bay Area to somewhere like Ukiah or Arcata to support this new state.
I wish this could come about. But those in power now will not allow it. I have the resources and ability to leave California this next year and am planning to do just that.
While I tend to share Magentawave's views, I'm still in favor of any activity of this nature. This country needs to break down into smaller nation states independent of the fed leviathan. How, I'm not sure.
California really is too big to serve all of the people who live there
YayJess Many states are like that. Take New York. Upstate is very very different than NYC and Long Island. NY should be broken up.
That may not be true. I believe that the California State government is very troublesome to reform. One idea is to apportion representation by county (i.e. one or two representatives per county) rather than a certain number of representatives for a certain heads in each county. This would prevent populous cities from dominating politics which affect the rural areas. Since people living in rural areas are not as prone to thinking that they can micromanage the lives of others, it would balance the power somewhat. The only problem is I doubt that the cities would voluntarily let power slip from their hands by allowing such a reform.
It would probably be best if they broke away. It would involve less fighting with the southern cities to have more say, and there is no reason they can't do business with eachother after the political division.
Movses Timiryan your answer to our problem is way to reasonable and has the ring of
Common sense. THEY WILL NEVER GO FOR IT .
Sections of a state should be able to forcibly secede from their parent state without leaving the overall nation.
My vassals in CK2 do it to each other all the time, and I don't give a shit.
Absolutely !!! The state of Jefferson needs to happen !!! ❤️❤️❤️
No call it: " The Great State of Auroria"
287,000 people in Ca voted for Leland Yee after indictment for gun trafficking. That is reason enough to break away and form a new state.
I don't know man, I thought we needed more gun. That way everyone, everywhere will be safer. He's doing the public a favor.
Jack Zaw he’s selling rockets to the los zetas
Vote Newsom!!!
Some mayors are caught smoking crack on video and people vote for them anyway. What does that say about the people.
Wow, the scenery looks beautiful there. Plus potentially lower taxes, less regulation, overall freer market? I'm in.
Jeff Goodman there is really no reason to not allow cannabis. It's completely safe as long as your brain is finished developing.
Everyone smokes and grows weed in Jefferson 😂
I live here btw
@Jeff Goodman i just drove through there. NOBODY lives there. To sucessfully run a state you need money. How tf would they get any infrastructure or anything else without taxing at a high rate. (You cant) it sounds nice but money doesnt grow on trees.
@Jeff Goodman exactly. They would probably be run as a theocracy lol
I would so move to Jefferson if it became a state. A little homestead would be lovely and not have to deal with the Nazi like government of Commiefornia.
GrizzlyRising News, Politics and opinion. Same I would live there
Sorry, us liberals will not let Jefferson happen.
@@kbanghart Keep thinking that.
@@Grizzly907LA I don't think it, I know it.
@@kbanghart You are right
My family actually owns property in what would be Jefferson(currently northern California). This is extremely interesting news to me.
My folks just finished building a home I designed for them in Shasta county. I am really hoping this goes through. I'll move out of Sonoma county and take my Architect's License to the new state of Jefferson!
Citizen Brain I had friends in Sonoma. Some beautiful land out there. I wanted to live out there for the longest time but it's probably way out of my price range.
I live in Yolo County(border of jefferson and cali) and im all for it.
Ken Banghart While we're making predictions, who's going to win the Super Bowl? Do you have stock tips? What company will be the next Google?
Got to love dolts with defeatist attitudes, eh?
I'd love to move there if this happened
I wish them the best of luck!
eagleeye1975 not going so well
We are being silenced by the corrupt Left in our state, but we do not know the meaning of failure and will continue to fight for our rights!
borderlands10 good luck.
We need this more in 2020 then ever before.
I have so much respect for these Americans. Northern Californians are good ol country folks. Who blames them for wanting to be their own state. Why should someone from San Diego have a say in how Yreka residents live their life? I want Texas to succeed. Why should someone from New York or Washington have the right to tell us how we should live? I love the people of rural Northern California. They're normal, hard working farmers ,etc. LA? San Francisco? Not so much.
Add So. Oregon that wish to join you. Yes, we need to separate from CA.
Um, Oregon already is a separate state.
All the states on the west coast have high taxes. Would love a state that is for liberty and freedom with low taxes. Would move there in a instant.
@@zonk1477 go for Texas, I heard they have low taxes
Support from Texas my friends!!
I will move from Sonoma county in the CA north bay to live in Jefferson should they create the State. IN A HEARTBEAT.
+Citizen Brain never happen.
It certain will not happen for someone with such a defeatist attitude. LMAO, good luck with that.
Luck I don't need. Just reality.
+Ken Banghart Reality, more often than not, is a collection of erroneous societal fears and prejudices. Fits right in with your defeatist attitude. LOL
I'm sorry your reality is full of error. You're right about my defeatist attitude. I want to see SOJ defeated.
cant wait to visit the great state of Jefferson!
You'll be waiting a long time, as in forever.
Kizone Kaprow Some Ukrainians are getting a free state.
Still hasn't happened. LOL won't happen
I grew up in Arizona and I remember my 4th grade teacher telling me there was a movement in Northern California to create a 51st state. That was 35 years ago. I see it is still going strong. I hope they succeed.
I won't say that a lot of people in California wants to break up the state, but there have been many proposals to do such a thing. This really isn't just an issue for the State of Jefferson, but also the Central Valley and Southern California as well. Pretty much 12 million people in a state of 30 million people have their opinion silenced which to me is just wrong.
They all get a vote, their opinion is not silenced
@@kbanghart ever heard of gerrymandering? Have you looked at a district map? Yes, their voice is silenced.
@@timpoolsbeanie2296 yes, Republicans are the best at gerrymandering.
@@kbanghart except they don’t gerrymander in California, dumbass 🤡
@@kbanghart I really don’t think you bothered looking at the district map and who represents the districts but please, keep regurgitating whatever the mainstream media tells you 😂
Why have they not done this sooner? (I mean they did, but after the war.)
It's been tried a few times before. If you are local then I invite you to attend one of the many town hall meetings going on around the state. There is a lot of information put out to include what has happen historically and where we are going forward.
Joseph Turner
Sorry, I'm not from California. They do have my support, however.
Because they can't.
they should become their own country and they should issue a gold backed currency.
So become traitors to the United States of America?
I 100% support this! The more decentralized power is, the better! So go with the republicanism instead of statehood, if you can.
I really don't understand why people label this as far-fetched, whacky, etc. I see a video about this on the right side of my screen entitled "GOP NUT Baggery" and even this video at 0:34, the narrator calls it "the seemingly impossible"; America was founded on this, this is a core principle of America, it shouldn't be alien at all.
True. We got multiple states out of Territories. Counties have merged in the last couple of years. States are corporations, not sacred entities. They can be merged, split, disbanded, formed - like any corporation. No big deal.
New state of Jefferson....I'm voting yes!
No the new state: "Auroria"
I grew up in Yreka. It's a small town of almost 8,000 but it's the largest town in far Northern California. The industry there has been decimated in the last 30 years. Fishing, mining, lumber, everything. All because of the Democrats and environmentalists. The only viable industry is marijuana and the government still plays their little cat and mouse game with growers.
thats sad ;/
Same with us in Humboldt, Eureka used to be a lovely logging town before the Democrats came in with their environmental regulations; Now my town is struggling to get by with fishing and cannabis farming(Which we actually managed to turn into a bit of a small industry around here) while enduring the absurd regulations and taxes set upon us by our incompetent governor Moonbeam.
I used to live in Yreka. That sounds about right. Plumas county is no different.
They fight for cleaner air and water.? How horrible.!
@@Chris-hp9be why don't you liberals go after tech companies and their mining opporations and insane levels of polution, instead of destroying entire townsively hoods? You know all that paper and wood that make everything? Well wtf do you think it comes from?
Jefferson should be a militia state
No us liberals will not allow that
@@kbanghart but us libertarians will. Every state has the power to have a very well regulated militia to obtain a free state. Along with sufficient arms and ammunition. Its litteraly in our constitution. We will abide by the supreme law of the land you despise
@@kbanghart I would love to see you liberals try 😂🤡
@@timpoolsbeanie2296 try what? We have already done it. We are not allowing the state of Jefferson to take place, and we have gun laws in place in california.
@@gunner4lyfe723 I think you should buy more guns and ammunition. I always laugh when people like you do, that means you have less money to spend on other stuff :)
This NOT ""secession"" - it IS 'separation and the 'creation' of a '''separate state'''
I stand corrected. ;)
"When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them"
The best kept secret of the Declaration of Independence is that the principle of political separation is completely scalable, down to the individual level. If people ever woke up to this fact governments would quickly unravel.
Please let this happen
"We're taxed, but we have no say over how those taxes are spent"
Uhh...this is basically every single person in the country, not just a clump of rural towns in northern California.
Yup. And the dimwitted libertarians here have the solution: ANARCHY!
Is it any wonder that nobody takes libertarians seriously?
Kizone Kaprow Yeah, because we just have to have assholes in charge of us, leading the way for institutionalized violence.
This is in big part because of the Supreme Court ruling of Reynolds vs Sims in 1964. Each county in California used to have its own State Senator, like many other states. Reynolds vs Sims stripped that and made it population based like the Assembly. It's not the perfect example, but when you go from potential 11 to 14 State Senators for this area to 2 State Senators we really have no voice.
Kizone Kaprow GO FUCK YOURSELF! The Dimwitted Are The Democrats And The LIBERALS And Most Of The Republicans!
The Solution Is NOT Anarchy You Dumbass Dip Shit!
"WE" Have A Constitution That Everyone Seems To Have Forgotten About!
"WE" Should Have Only Common Law (That The Constitution Was Written In!)
NOT Admiralty Law!
NOT Federal Law!
CSSDragonlord
Needs more hysterical obscenities. But thanks for proving my point.
This answer is....YES...Leadership
I can't wait for this thing to happen!
Yes.
Next question.
I support this fully. I would move in a heartbeat. I think Jefferson needs to be more aggressive like in 1941
"Should Northern California Secede?"
Yes
what we need is more young people like myself to get into the state of Jefferson, its all about our future and if we can get the younger generation too keep of the fight then sooner or later I think it will happen.
I'm 38. I'm going. I'm leaving the bay area and moving to the state if Jefferson....and I'm not bringing any commiefornia politics w me....I'm all Jefferson all the way.
It would definitely be in Jefferson's interest to be a coastal state, but I was surprised to see Mendocino and Humboldt counties included in its borders. They are a couple of the most liberal counties in the state. It may be more of a libertarian-leaning rural liberalism rather than a San Francisco liberalism, but they seem to be plenty statist at the ballot box.
Is there actually significant support for secession in the coastal counties, or was that map just being hopeful?
Everybody (most people) are statist. That's why you need to limit powers and keep generations educated about the risks of state power.
plz don't leave I need more Republicans in California not less.
How about no Republicans and Democrats…that sounds much better to me
Now I understand the importance of smaller states, as the needs of the many in large states end up outweighing the needs of the few in the smaller bits of these states. :O
So you think the minority should rule over the majority?
Where do the people of eastern washington get a say in things while the folk in western washington burn up money left and right on tunnel boring machines, and runway expansion? projects which may likely never benefit these people of eastern washington.
+Uhohhotdog Gaming so you think a Majority should be able to lord over tyrannically over the Minority?
Logan Mainord
There's no tyranny.
"There is no compulsion in government."
This is what statists actually believe.
Please, please, Oregon - join California!
Let em
Finally found a place in California I wouldn't mind visiting.
The Republic needs restoring and ALL taxes on labor MUST be abolished...
Taxes on Capital Gains, Interest & Luxury Property ONLY.
#ENDTHEFED
No Taxes at ALL, Voluntaryism all the way
I would emigrate to the Great Republic of Jefferson in a heartbeat, if they'll have me.
If JEFFERSON is formed properly...NO state income tax, REASONABLE property & sales tax, SMALL Gov't model, & COMMON SENSE LAWS WRITTEN IN PLAIN ENGLISH (NOT lawyer double-speak that can be read as "a" today & "b" tomorrow.)
I would sell my house & land, & move there IMMEDIATELY.
GO JEFFERSON!!!!!!!!
I would rather have no taxes, almost zero government, and free markets to allow private industry to thrive.
the more rural areas are pissed off at the big cities running and ruining everything
Economically yes
Culturally yes
Morally yes
state of jefferson would be republic state.
Wouldn't have it any other way.
I support state succession 100% and I wish people of northern California and southern Oregon the best in their pursuit. In fact, I'd go as far as to support the idea of states throwing counties and cities out since I'd love to see my state, Pennsylvania, throw out Philadelphia.
Yes , do it.
I was raised and live in San Francisco, if it passes, I'll gladly move there
Yesssss and take southern and eastern Oregon with you
Trump's government would allow it? Anyway, free state of Jefferson!
It's not of up to him,he has no say so in it dummy..
yea they'd probably help because it's more likely to bring electoral votes for republicans at the moment
trump would be for it may guess. liberals want centralized government focused in DC. no states rights. one rule for all. hmmmm there's a word for that
general mayhem: Communism? Yuck, that trash needs to be taken out.
Jeff Goodman you do know that the best weed comes from upstate California right?
I feel that this is a good move, Statehood or Republic, as long as it's a place that holds Libertarian principles, and upholds the ideology outlined by the US Constitution. Hasn't Texas been trying to become a Republic as well?
It's an anarcho-libertarian fantasy. A utopia.
*Coming up*: ReasonTV proves that perpetual-motion machines are real!
Kizone Kaprow I don't know about the "Utopia" part. I know of no Libertarian that strives for a Utopian society. They don't kid themselves in that aspect. There will never be Utopia.
Yes Texas was trying to we where a country for 10 years but congress never let us be a Republic once again.Congress just want our Texas oil.
Bro Brian
I agree. They don't believe in Utopia so they'd rather ruin everything for everyone.
Texas hasn't been trying to become a republic. A tiny group of nutjobs have been wanting Texas to become a republic.
Honestly california shouldnt have a problem since their population will have a net gain in political representation in the senate
And if people have a problem with Wyoming having three electoral votes, why let Puerto Rico become a state but not Jefferson
this
Independence from the liberal Californians!!!!!!!!
We need Jefferson Franklin and Lincoln!!!!
Move there fast, before they make aton of new laws, out of habit.
As a person in Tehama county I fully support a possible state of Jefferson. This is not even about whether you are a liberal or a republican, the counties which would become part of Jefferson are so much more different than the south. Whenever I travel anywhere past Sacramento it's like a completely different world. The population is millions different, the political atmosphere is different, the culture is different, the distaste for government intrusion in the north is growing, and like they said, the north is always ignored. Anyone who thinks these two extremely different areas could and should be under the same state and government is a fool.
Good luck and if this happens, it will be added to the possible locations to relocate to when I retire 😁
Godbless the state of Jefferson!!!!!!
No the new State of "Auroria"....Sounds better..cooler and so hot..so cool.so.cool ..so hot. So hot..
It would be an awesome state.
If they succeed the State of Jefferson may be the only place in the USA where Liberty exists. I wish them all the best.
Good luck! I would love to see at least one part of California or formerly California thrive.
Good for them hope they achieve their goals
I very much respect the intent of this division, you are 100% correct that the State of CA is no longer serving in anyone's best interest, but in particular, yours and other rural areas within the state, or in underpopulated parts of the state like the Central Coastal counties of San Luis Obispo, Santa Barbara, Ventura and Kern, etc. My only wish is that I could move into the most beautiful by far part of my state, right next to you folks!!!
Southern Oregon should join them. I hate how Portland and Salem control all of the politics in southern Oregon
Voluntaryism is the way to go, statism has never worked out for the people, only the richest of the rich.
Lol what are you talking about
The more secession the better. Eventually we can succeed into strictly voluntary associations for governance.
Yes
Patrick Henry founding father "Its either give me liberty or give me death!"
The difference is these people are self sufficient, and California wants people to be dependent.
State of Jefferson is so badly needed
Good job.
hey thx u 2!
Id move there if they became a state. It looks nice over there.
I'll move to Jefferson State!
NO! Hands Off Our Public Lands! Keep it California! God Bless The State Off California!
Funniest thing is that, there is nothing up their but parks and trees. They would be dirt poor.
At about 4:12 what is the guy talking about when he says he wants to go the republic route and not the state route?
I support you sir! When half of every tax dollar in California is spent on education but the schools are broke something must give.
I'd much rather see Cascadia come into existence than Jefferson but Jefferson definitely has a more realistic chance of happening. I can't argue that.
The federal government will never allow this to happen. We are living under the illusion of freedom and liberty.
Screw the our u.s governments they are one of the biggest criminals and the biggest liars in in this America it is time to secede everyone in this country have already been fed up with governments BS way before any states became part of the USA they were doing just fine !
Economically, I don't think the state could support itself. I do believe that they deserve a voice so ultimately I think it should become a state.
well california currently cant support itself sooooo
The time is now more than ever!!!!!!!
Id move there honestly
I am from Redding, but now live in SO ORegon. Why is Oregon no longer participating in this separation, I am all for it. We in So Oregon have no voice either.
Please don’t cave in to liberal ideology,keep up the fight!
Jefferson would rapidly grow and get a major city on the coast
I'd move there...
I love that area of California, I use to live in Happy Camp. I would move there in a seconded if it became the State of Jefferson.
7 public service union workers, from a union law state, watched this video!
Just wondering at the proposed name Jefferson. After President Jefferson Davis ??
I suspect Thomas Jefferson
I support this 100%
Stop the fluoride
You can't leave southern Oregon out of the State of Jefferson! We also lack an incredible amount of representation in our state. Years ago, southern Oregon was involved in the conversation.
Well it's been a year and they're on :)
If the State of Jefferson gets passed, I'm defiantly packing up my stuff from the East Bay Area to somewhere like Ukiah or Arcata to support this new state.
I'm with you southern California hmu
Statehood is the way to go, an independent republic is very unlikely considering the precedent against succession from the US.
No way are these guys leaving...without taking their San Francisco and Sacramento with them, 'cause we don't want em! SoCal4Life!
Yes!
Secede the country! Take a hike!!
Wonderful idea! As a foreigner, I'd give them some tourism money as soon as I could if that happened.
I wish this could come about. But those in power now will not allow it. I have the resources and ability to leave California this next year and am planning to do just that.
Bon voyage!
While I tend to share Magentawave's views, I'm still in favor of any activity of this nature. This country needs to break down into smaller nation states independent of the fed leviathan. How, I'm not sure.