I am presuming most of these people watching this are outsiders, so as an Idahoan who has had family historically in Eastern Oregon for 160 years I will give my opinion. The Pacific Northwest has had a strong history of a sense of polite independence, on all levels of society. Western Washington and Eastern Washington should have always been their own separate states, with the boundary at the Cascades. Remember, geography shapes culture, and west Washington and east Washington have always been two separate cultures and peoples(I also have family in northeastern Washington that have been there for more than 100 years). Idaho's cultural line falls along the mountains vs the sagebrush. There is literally no way to draw a political border on a map to capture that geographic and cultural distinction. Plus the mountains that border the sagebrush country has always had a mixture of the two cultures to an extent, going all the way back to the days of the Indians. The only reason why Idaho became a state is because we are like Switzerland; we don't like each other but we dislike our neighbors more. In each community's desperation to maintain their own individual rights, autonomy(and sadly the ambition for power and control) nearly lead to us losing all those things by being eaten up by our neighbors, namely Reno, Seattle, and Salt Lake City. We did not want to become serfs so instead we stuck together as uneasy equals, with the agreement to leave each other the heck alone. At the same time there was a strong camaraderie and love for one another from the common man here. So when we were happy we respected each other's rights out of love, when we were angry we respected each others rights with a gruff respect and attestment to reality that everyone is equal in terms of rights. The only reason why Oregon worked as a state was for two things. First, outside of southwestern Oregon, everybody in Oregon had some sort of blood tie to the Oregon Trail, and so everyone in Oregon had a common experience, and covenant with one another. The second is that, like Idaho, Oregon operated like a federation of counties, and let each county do its own thing. Northern California and Southwestern Oregon should have always been their own state of Jefferson, you can, just like Idaho, Oregon, and Washington, look at history for that. The reason why the people of Oregon wish to leave the Willamette Valley is because in 1964, the Supreme Court made Reynolds vs Sims, saying all legislative districts, outside of the federal senate, had to be based on population. This gave the cities all the power. In 1968 a massive number of Californians(hippies at first) came to Portland. They had no connection, and no cultural knowledge, of the Oregon Trail, were political progressives of the day, and then suddenly held all the political power. There was no reason why they should know about the needs of the rest of Oregon, and no reason to them why they should not violate the rights of the rest of Oregon if it meant benefiting Portland. The same has happened across the West. Three states are eating up the rest of the Union for the sake of power, money, and control; Texas, New York, and California. This has happened before with the five hegamons in Zhou dynasty China, and Austria, Prussia, and the seven electors in the Holy Roman Empire. The only way for these people to secure their rights is for them to pull a Switzerland(look into how Switzerland maintained their rights and was kicked out of the HRE, also look at their government). These people should not have to leave their homes were their families have been for 100, 150, or 200 years, and have become part of the land. If it was wrong to kick the Indians off their homeland(which it was) then it wrong for these people to be kicked off their home. They merely want their own self government, for themselves, a security of their rights, and to be living the way they have for generations. If these things weren't lacking, or altogether absent, then they would not have to secede. By the way, there is less racism there, more egalitarianism, and more environmentally friendly lifestyles and cultures there than in any of the big cities. Actions speak louder than words, and you can tell what someone truly believes not by what they say, but by what they do. Malcolm X did say the white liberal was the greatest enemy and danger to the black person than anything else. In all reality the boundary for Idaho should have been the Owyhee river basin in Eastern Oregon and Nevada, the Blue Mountains of Eastern Oregon, the rest of the palouse in eastern Washington, and the rest of the Selkirk mountains in eastern Washington. Those are where the cultural boundaries are. JMJ
It was pointed out to you six months ago that your screed is very difficult to read due to a complete lack of paragraphing, yet you have made no attempt to correct your error. Since you're not going to bother making it more readable, I'm not going to read it. I did glance at it however and that was more than I needed to see where you're going. Because you’re bragging about how long your family has been in the northwest, I have to assume that you’re insinuating that your opinion carries more weight than the opinion of more recent arrivals, which of course is ridiculous. Because you’re using your ancestor’s arrival date as a bragging point, I can’t resist pointing out to you that my family has been here much longer than yours. Does that mean that my opinion is more important than yours? I can assure you that your fantasy of stealing Oregon is pure delusion. It makes just as much sense as the unreadable tripe you've posted above, which by the cursory glance I gave it, appears to be nothing more than Trumpanzee Clown Cult delusion. Did you notice how I used the magic of paragraphing to make my post easier to read? It ain't rocket science Clem.
No, we don't take too kindly to outsiders moving in. Bringing in their money to take advantage of our small economy, we fucking hate Californians. Join the state or stay out
@Harris Biden 2020 WON !!! Oh you like weed, that explains why you'd think biden won 😂 also housing in Idaho has skyrocketed after so many rich Californians moved there
@@rossomex12 . Why is ANTIFA; and the BLM in the treasure valley area? They will ruin the quality of life in the Treasure Valley area with their violent tactics!
Why no just move? I mean let’s not jack up Oregon and everything we have to offer! Don’t want to live in Oregon then move ! It is not hard! Pack your stuff and leave.
@@Bullrider33Outdoors William, it's inevitable that big cities will run the state. 2/3rds of the population will live in big cities or urban areas by 2050. That means most of the people in the state will live in the city. With all those people, you get more people leaning to liberal, because people in the city are usually more liberal. This is why you see in this past election, you see these massive areas of rural America voting Republican, but these small spots on the map voting blue and winning that state, because there are more people living there. Rural America offers little for people, this is why they all head to bigger cities for jobs, this eventually leads to like minded thinking(liberal). The future of America is liberal(blue).
Southern oregon & northern cali are all about the state of jefferson... Annexing from oregon & cali. Perhaps the democracy of portlandia vs rural oregonians is reminder that our founding fathers declared the usa be a republic.
@@MM-vu7jl No it is not, it is a Union of States that is also a republic. Democracy only works on the most local level(i.e., Midvale Idaho with two hundred people). The only reason why it works even then is because it is less a democracy at that level and more of a federation of individuals, where somebody can ignore the vote and just go off and do their own thing. Anything larger than that quickly becomes a dictatorship of the majority, and a government of coercion and not a government of consent, where the majority frequently violates the rights of the minority if it benefits themselves. JMJ
Well, despite what people think, this could become a very real possibility in 20 years. It keeps gaining momentum. I though it was just a good laugh at first but more counties keep voting yes every year.
Portland, Oregon is a disaster who would not want join a different state! It is five counties now from what I have been hearing, so must be gaining popularity.
If this happens will I loose my right to use cannabis? People are talking about getting freedom back? Sounds like I would loose my freedom! If you like Idaho so much, then just move there!
Why should they have to leave their land? Just because you want cannabis? lol okay. Well, they just gained massive ground today with this movement, so yay them lol
I say more power to them. It may be illegal to secede from the union, but theres nothing stopping counties from leaving one state and joining another state. Idaho and Oregon would still be in the Union, the only thing that would change is that Idaho would be bigger and Oregon would be smaller.
That's actually much harder to achieve than redrawing the state borders. Look up State of Jefferson, first proposed in 1941 and still talked about today.
That would be the best move, but it would take a lot of effort, balls, brains, coordination, and support from the Trump administration and the National Republican party. In my opinion they should try to do that instead of viewing Idaho as this republican shangri-la(its not, we are simply like the frontier and colonial Americans, i.e. we like our own identity). In short, they should stand for themselves and their rights, and not stand for a ideology that just happens to be different than Portland's. JMJ
@Joshua Waldorf - Poor little victim, move back to California where you came from or stay in your I-da-ho safe space and stop your delusional fantasizing about stealing my state
@@PendeltonWhiskey Your state is corrupt and the people know it. It's their decision to want to join Idaho and not leave the area they've been used to.
I'm curious as to why all the many counties in Central & Eastern WA that agreed to what they call 'liberty' aren't considering joining with OR and Idaho to send an even bigger undeniable message
Idaho, marijuana, they refuse to acknowledge it has medical properties, and its scientifically evident, and Idaho is the ONLY state that is like nope, it's a schedule 1 class A felony, you want to decriminalize drugs, or start farming anything ever considered questionable nature! P.S Idaho isn't in line with freaking anyone! First of all there is far more then a small liberal population in concurrence with Idaho, and several states, we'd like to see the same things echoed here, however, might I add, tragic, and unjust, I do believe its safe to say the ones who aren't housed in the penitentiary currently, at least as far as liberals or anyone who agrees with scientist researched finding, have already lost their right to vote, and or will not have a say so upon release from the penitentiary! How convenient for Idaho's political parties and how many more casualties of their war on drugs, families, liberty, our international declaration of what's allegedly our inalienable human right to live free of fear and corrupt government officials. I don't know about other Idaho residents, but I don't just move to a state where they are supportive of scientist evidence, except the state of Idaho forcibly gave my child away for adoption because they found a broken marijuana bong in my home 14 and 1/2 years ago and I'm not going anywhere until I know she's been given the opportunity to meet her siblings and the option to meet her first mom, her birth mom! Idaho is gonna keep their bigotry, denial, and unwillingness to even entertain the idea they're not going about any of the nation's needs efficiently, so forget about the ideals of what they could try to do differently. It could be a complete failure and at least it'd be trying Anything else aside from what's also scientifically evident, incarceration is not an effective, or efficient approach to reach resolve and genuinely correct shit!
Dude your rant is crystal clear your 1. An asshole for losing your child because of drug use. 2. A bigger asshole for pretending you use pot for medicinal purposes, when your just a scumbag pothead. 3. A mega asshole for judging a state based on its drug laws. Your best staying in a shithole state, living in a tent, crapping on sidewalks...that seems more your speed.
@@cowboyx9380 I have epilepsy, I took experimental medicine that left me always feeling like I'm on a rocking boat, trust marijuana when u need it to work, or u know hold down nutrition because you've thrown up 13 days and nights straight I dont abuse it, its pretty clear you're trying to shame me for what you have no reason nor have you ever thought maybe you're not accurate in your assumptions! I did everything they asked me to and they sold my child and sent me the bill! Https://ila001.wordpress.com there's our story and I only answer your ignorance because I'll never stop sharing the unjust corruptions and falsehood regardless of your opinion that's not at all supported by SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH AND EVIDENCE! You believe and think what u want sir, however it doesn't make it accurate nor is your discouraging criticism useful, or helpful. How about attempting to comprehend, and the unwillingness to even entertain the idea, maybe you're wrongly labeling people who wouldn't be criminal given they were not looked upon as though they're a social pariah! Be safe and remember JUNKIES R NT JUNK: HUMANE HUMANS LOVE NO MATTER WHAT!
Idaho is the most bland of the 50 states. Politics aside... why would anyone really want to be part of Idaho. I grew up in Utah and Idaho made us look exciting in comparison. Even just when I drive through there coming back the majority of the state just feels so soulless and dead. I’m always relieved to cross the state line.
R57 M Move? I don’t get the people who bitch about it yet won’t do anything about it. It’s like a dog that refuses to get up when it’s laying on a nail. I find Oregon beautiful and amazing. For the majority the people are awesome, I love the art and culture so Portland for me has that in excess typically. The ocean is at your back door practically. There’s so much good and beauty here. Yes, it’s not perfect. There are issues. However if it’s making you that miserable then do something to change that. Though frankly I kind of get the idea you’re one of those souls who’s miserable in his own skin and mind and projects it onto everyone and everything or you’re have something better to do than Troll a TV station of all thing.
Grumpy Pup Ya know... mass sickness, hospitals over flowing... death. Do you not wear your seat belt and jay walk into traffic to prove how bad ass you are as well?
R57 M I totally hit the nail on the head, didn’t I 🤣🤣🤣. Again your free to go find your happiness and if Oregon isn’t doing it for you no one is forcing you to stay. Go start a Go fund me. I’d be glad to chip in $50 for you moving expenses. Then the people of that state can listen to you bitch about how much it sucks there as well.
Yes a lot of the support for it comes from the decisions regarding agriculture that have been made regarding taxes on agriculture and regulations on farming and ranching and i really dont blame them because Oregon legislation dont care about them never has. but in reality its not going to happen.
Samantha Winburn Totally get it. Horror movie isn’t over yet and who knows what the monster will do next before it’s done... but just 71 more days. I kind of want to just get a calendar to console myself and tick off each day till then, lol.
@@redcurrantart I have a count-down clock on my computer desktop. Had 2; watched the first one count to to zero, now I watch the other one count down to Jan 20 at noon.
You mock the people who grow your food, supply your energy, work your plumbing, gas and water. And then get pissy when they want to join another state. But yea, Oregon really does care about the little guy, the common man.
My family has been eastern Oregon for 160 years and the upper country of Idaho for just as long. Words Unheard is sadly right about the small town hierarchies, partly about the corruption, and totally wrong about the inbreeding. You MJ on the other hand, is the exact opposite. Portland and Vancouver is filled with corruption(look at the gentrification, that only happens from massive corruption) and fascists(just look at BLM and Antifa). In the rural pacific northwest, you fail and succeeded based on your own merits. Even if someone is racist in word, they are almost certainly not in deed, and you can tell what someone truly believes not by what they say, but by what they do. Portland on the other hand is full of the white liberals that Malcolm X said was the greatest danger to the American Black man. JMJ
Reporters report facts, Opinionist report opinions. I hear nothing but resent for the people of this movement from Danny. Not everyone thinks alike. As soon as Danny can realize this he will understand true diversity.
Terrible, terrible idea!!!! We need balanced gov. Which we have been in a Repulsican stranglehold for 30 years!! More intelligent nation's are not against taxation if that means free college, high education standard for everyone, free health care.
Just do the opposite. Just keep what you have and bring in Idaho ideas and flags to your county. Be Idaho without moving it's border. Act and be like Idaho
You can have your silly little backwards state. If you live in Oregon, and you like Idaho better, just move to Idaho and STAY THERE. That way everybody is happy. Keep Trump's fascist theocracy out of Oregon!
And when Virginia Democrats would not end slavery...a section broke off, just like this....and the State of West Virginia was born! So yea, it can happen, and its not as hard as you think.
I'm from Oregon. I HATE the idea. I grew up in Eastern Oregon and live in Western Oregon now. The whole state is beautiful and so geographically diverse. It would be tragic to have some of that beauty not be a part of Oregon anymore.
@@seer77 that's in all of Oregon. Californians have sent the prices skyrocketing so locals are driven out. The only thing new is that it has gotten worse, and now East Coasters are headed here in droves, too.
Nah. That is not the truth. Not a bunch of you ---// from California n-- to stay the hell o. Not a bunch of you ---// from California n-- to stay the hell o.
So as an urbanist in the western part of the state and member of the democratic majority I gotta ask why would we let Eastern oregon and it's resources go? Why would I let rural oregonians off the hook for their share of the taxes? You've gotta be kidding. I'm voting no.
I am presuming most of these people watching this are outsiders, so as an Idahoan who has had family historically in Eastern Oregon for 160 years I will give my opinion. The Pacific Northwest has had a strong history of a sense of polite independence, on all levels of society. Western Washington and Eastern Washington should have always been their own separate states, with the boundary at the Cascades. Remember, geography shapes culture, and west Washington and east Washington have always been two separate cultures and peoples(I also have family in northeastern Washington that have been there for more than 100 years). Idaho's cultural line falls along the mountains vs the sagebrush. There is literally no way to draw a political border on a map to capture that geographic and cultural distinction. Plus the mountains that border the sagebrush country has always had a mixture of the two cultures to an extent, going all the way back to the days of the Indians. The only reason why Idaho became a state is because we are like Switzerland; we don't like each other but we dislike our neighbors more. In each community's desperation to maintain their own individual rights, autonomy(and sadly the ambition for power and control) nearly lead to us losing all those things by being eaten up by our neighbors, namely Reno, Seattle, and Salt Lake City. We did not want to become serfs so instead we stuck together as uneasy equals, with the agreement to leave each other the heck alone. At the same time there was a strong camaraderie and love for one another from the common man here. So when we were happy we respected each other's rights out of love, when we were angry we respected each others rights with a gruff respect and attestment to reality that everyone is equal in terms of rights. The only reason why Oregon worked as a state was for two things. First, outside of southwestern Oregon, everybody in Oregon had some sort of blood tie to the Oregon Trail, and so everyone in Oregon had a common experience, and covenant with one another. The second is that, like Idaho, Oregon operated like a federation of counties, and let each county do its own thing. Northern California and Southwestern Oregon should have always been their own state of Jefferson, you can, just like Idaho, Oregon, and Washington, look at history for that. The reason why the people of Oregon wish to leave the Willamette Valley is because in 1964, the Supreme Court made Reynolds vs Sims, saying all legislative districts, outside of the federal senate, had to be based on population. This gave the cities all the power. In 1968 a massive number of Californians(hippies at first) came to Portland. They had no connection, and no cultural knowledge, of the Oregon Trail, were political progressives of the day, and then suddenly held all the political power. There was no reason why they should know about the needs of the rest of Oregon, and no reason to them why they should not violate the rights of the rest of Oregon if it meant benefiting Portland. The same has happened across the West. Three states are eating up the rest of the Union for the sake of power, money, and control; Texas, New York, and California. This has happened before with the five hegamons in Zhou dynasty China, and Austria, Prussia, and the seven electors in the Holy Roman Empire. The only way for these people to secure their rights is for them to pull a Switzerland(look into how Switzerland maintained their rights and was kicked out of the HRE, also look at their government). These people should not have to leave their homes were their families have been for 100, 150, or 200 years, and have become part of the land. If it was wrong to kick the Indians off their homeland(which it was) then it wrong for these people to be kicked off their home. They merely want their own self government, for themselves, a security of their rights, and to be living the way they have for generations. If these things weren't lacking, or altogether absent, then they would not have to secede. By the way, there is less racism there, more egalitarianism, and more environmentally friendly lifestyles and cultures there than in any of the big cities. Actions speak louder than words, and you can tell what someone truly believes not by what they say, but by what they do. Malcolm X did say the white liberal was the greatest enemy and danger to the black person than anything else. In all reality the boundary for Idaho should have been the Owyhee river basin in Eastern Oregon and Nevada, the Blue Mountains of Eastern Oregon, the rest of the palouse in eastern Washington, and the rest of the Selkirk mountains in eastern Washington. Those are where the cultural boundaries are. JMJ
It's called a paragraph, learn how to use it. What you wrote is a wall of text, nobody actually reads that.
@@peterbelanger4094 Did you?
I did, and thank you. I find the Greater Idaho movement quite interesting, and this was an insightful post.
It was pointed out to you six months ago that your screed is very difficult to read due to a complete lack of paragraphing, yet you have made no attempt to correct your error. Since you're not going to bother making it more readable, I'm not going to read it. I did glance at it however and that was more than I needed to see where you're going.
Because you’re bragging about how long your family has been in the northwest, I have to assume that you’re insinuating that your opinion carries more weight than the opinion of more recent arrivals, which of course is ridiculous. Because you’re using your ancestor’s arrival date as a bragging point, I can’t resist pointing out to you that my family has been here much longer than yours. Does that mean that my opinion is more important than yours?
I can assure you that your fantasy of stealing Oregon is pure delusion. It makes just as much sense as the unreadable tripe you've posted above, which by the cursory glance I gave it, appears to be nothing more than Trumpanzee Clown Cult delusion.
Did you notice how I used the magic of paragraphing to make my post easier to read? It ain't rocket science Clem.
Good ,you get it done,then Northern California can follow your lead.More senators,congressmen to represent Republicans !
It wouldnt change the total number of representatives
States only get two senators
Nah. Not then Northern California can follow your lead. /
Just move to Idaho, way simpler than trying to change the entire state.
No, we don't take too kindly to outsiders moving in. Bringing in their money to take advantage of our small economy, we fucking hate Californians. Join the state or stay out
@Harris Biden 2020 WON !!! Oh you like weed, that explains why you'd think biden won 😂 also housing in Idaho has skyrocketed after so many rich Californians moved there
@Kevin Sutton yea man it's actually ridiculous. Still not as bad as Texas though. But Boise is a hotspot for refugees, antifa, and blm
the point is to gain more influence with your tvalues over the country
@@rossomex12 . Why is ANTIFA; and the BLM in the treasure valley area?
They will ruin the quality of life in the Treasure Valley area with their violent tactics!
Can we get unincorporated Washington County to join Idaho?
Good Lord, I hope not.
Probably not
Why no just move? I mean let’s not jack up Oregon and everything we have to offer!
Don’t want to live in Oregon then move ! It is not hard! Pack your stuff and leave.
@@Bullrider33Outdoors William, it's inevitable that big cities will run the state. 2/3rds of the population will live in big cities or urban areas by 2050. That means most of the people in the state will live in the city. With all those people, you get more people leaning to liberal, because people in the city are usually more liberal. This is why you see in this past election, you see these massive areas of rural America voting Republican, but these small spots on the map voting blue and winning that state, because there are more people living there. Rural America offers little for people, this is why they all head to bigger cities for jobs, this eventually leads to like minded thinking(liberal). The future of America is liberal(blue).
Eh, no thanks. Seems to me like it'd be a downgrade. I'd much rather talk about a free and sovereign Cascadia.
Yeah, right, Cascadia would be a broken failure of a liberal shithole nation. Fuck you and your Cascadia talk!
Southern oregon & northern cali are all about the state of jefferson... Annexing from oregon & cali. Perhaps the democracy of portlandia vs rural oregonians is reminder that our founding fathers declared the usa be a republic.
@@MM-vu7jl No it is not, it is a Union of States that is also a republic. Democracy only works on the most local level(i.e., Midvale Idaho with two hundred people). The only reason why it works even then is because it is less a democracy at that level and more of a federation of individuals, where somebody can ignore the vote and just go off and do their own thing. Anything larger than that quickly becomes a dictatorship of the majority, and a government of coercion and not a government of consent, where the majority frequently violates the rights of the minority if it benefits themselves. JMJ
@Jason Tempel Dude you are a moron, who cant do math! And you ramble like a meth head!
Instead of joining Idaho, just make an independent state so conservatives can have more more senators.
Washington D.c has a better claim to being a state
Greater Slingbladeville
Well, despite what people think, this could become a very real possibility in 20 years. It keeps gaining momentum. I though it was just a good laugh at first but more counties keep voting yes every year.
Portland, Oregon is a disaster who would not want join a different state! It is five counties now from what I have been hearing, so must be gaining popularity.
Alot of homeless would flee out of the blue states then because they wpuldnt be making as much in taxes...there wont be "free money"
If this happens will I loose my right to use cannabis? People are talking about getting freedom back? Sounds like I would loose my freedom! If you like Idaho so much, then just move there!
Why should they have to leave their land? Just because you want cannabis? lol okay. Well, they just gained massive ground today with this movement, so yay them lol
Just move? Cuz it's sooooo easy.
This movement is absolutely fantastic.....We The People are the real power and wow are they threatened by this
Maybe it is time Salem start to talk with Eastern Oregon, not just Portland, the want Portland wants it gets, is getting old.
Agreed!
I say more power to them. It may be illegal to secede from the union, but theres nothing stopping counties from leaving one state and joining another state. Idaho and Oregon would still be in the Union, the only thing that would change is that Idaho would be bigger and Oregon would be smaller.
Why join Idaho? Just become another state
That's actually much harder to achieve than redrawing the state borders. Look up State of Jefferson, first proposed in 1941 and still talked about today.
That would be the best move, but it would take a lot of effort, balls, brains, coordination, and support from the Trump administration and the National Republican party. In my opinion they should try to do that instead of viewing Idaho as this republican shangri-la(its not, we are simply like the frontier and colonial Americans, i.e. we like our own identity). In short, they should stand for themselves and their rights, and not stand for a ideology that just happens to be different than Portland's. JMJ
??? Would be a few more electoral votes for Red..!! 👉🤙
@@johnphipps4105 You said brains? LOL
Essentially, it takes the entire US Congress to make a state. The redrawing of State lines requires only the States involved.
Yes to Greater Idaho!
Or secede from Oregon and become the State of East Oregon
Thanks for your input Comrade
Why call it Greater Idaho? Just call it Greater Utah as we know who will truly be in charge.
Just glad it cant happen without approval from both states governments. Good ole constitution!!!
As an Idahoan I approve of this. Oregonian victims deserve to have their voices heard.
Victims? More like a bunch of whiny school girls. Snowflakes?
@@jimmydean2797 You must be pro Portland. You're in no position than.
@Joshua Waldorf - Poor little victim, move back to California where you came from or stay in your I-da-ho safe space and stop your delusional fantasizing about stealing my state
@@PendeltonWhiskey Your state is corrupt and the people know it. It's their decision to want to join Idaho and not leave the area they've been used to.
@@joshuawaldorf9559 Dear little Victim, it's never going to happen. Never. That's the reality, something you left long ago.
I'm curious as to why all the many counties in Central & Eastern WA that agreed to what they call 'liberty' aren't considering joining with OR and Idaho to send an even bigger undeniable message
They are
Having the red parts of Washington join as well would mean we’d have one of the largest states!
Idaho, marijuana, they refuse to acknowledge it has medical properties, and its scientifically evident, and Idaho is the ONLY state that is like nope, it's a schedule 1 class A felony, you want to decriminalize drugs, or start farming anything ever considered questionable nature! P.S Idaho isn't in line with freaking anyone! First of all there is far more then a small liberal population in concurrence with Idaho, and several states, we'd like to see the same things echoed here, however, might I add, tragic, and unjust, I do believe its safe to say the ones who aren't housed in the penitentiary currently, at least as far as liberals or anyone who agrees with scientist researched finding, have already lost their right to vote, and or will not have a say so upon release from the penitentiary! How convenient for Idaho's political parties and how many more casualties of their war on drugs, families, liberty, our international declaration of what's allegedly our inalienable human right to live free of fear and corrupt government officials. I don't know about other Idaho residents, but I don't just move to a state where they are supportive of scientist evidence, except the state of Idaho forcibly gave my child away for adoption because they found a broken marijuana bong in my home 14 and 1/2 years ago and I'm not going anywhere until I know she's been given the opportunity to meet her siblings and the option to meet her first mom, her birth mom! Idaho is gonna keep their bigotry, denial, and unwillingness to even entertain the idea they're not going about any of the nation's needs efficiently, so forget about the ideals of what they could try to do differently. It could be a complete failure and at least it'd be trying Anything else aside from what's also scientifically evident, incarceration is not an effective, or efficient approach to reach resolve and genuinely correct shit!
Dude your rant is crystal clear your 1. An asshole for losing your child because of drug use.
2. A bigger asshole for pretending you use pot for medicinal purposes, when your just a scumbag pothead.
3. A mega asshole for judging a state based on its drug laws.
Your best staying in a shithole state, living in a tent, crapping on sidewalks...that seems more your speed.
@@cowboyx9380 I have epilepsy, I took experimental medicine that left me always feeling like I'm on a rocking boat, trust marijuana when u need it to work, or u know hold down nutrition because you've thrown up 13 days and nights straight I dont abuse it, its pretty clear you're trying to shame me for what you have no reason nor have you ever thought maybe you're not accurate in your assumptions! I did everything they asked me to and they sold my child and sent me the bill! Https://ila001.wordpress.com there's our story and I only answer your ignorance because I'll never stop sharing the unjust corruptions and falsehood regardless of your opinion that's not at all supported by SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH AND EVIDENCE! You believe and think what u want sir, however it doesn't make it accurate nor is your discouraging criticism useful, or helpful. How about attempting to comprehend, and the unwillingness to even entertain the idea, maybe you're wrongly labeling people who wouldn't be criminal given they were not looked upon as though they're a social pariah! Be safe and remember JUNKIES R NT JUNK: HUMANE HUMANS LOVE NO MATTER WHAT!
Idaho is the most bland of the 50 states. Politics aside... why would anyone really want to be part of Idaho. I grew up in Utah and Idaho made us look exciting in comparison. Even just when I drive through there coming back the majority of the state just feels so soulless and dead. I’m always relieved to cross the state line.
Guess you have never been to Hells Canyon huh?
Wow. Utah just mandated masks. I'd rather be free in boring Idaho
R57 M Move? I don’t get the people who bitch about it yet won’t do anything about it. It’s like a dog that refuses to get up when it’s laying on a nail. I find Oregon beautiful and amazing. For the majority the people are awesome, I love the art and culture so Portland for me has that in excess typically. The ocean is at your back door practically. There’s so much good and beauty here. Yes, it’s not perfect. There are issues. However if it’s making you that miserable then do something to change that. Though frankly I kind of get the idea you’re one of those souls who’s miserable in his own skin and mind and projects it onto everyone and everything or you’re have something better to do than Troll a TV station of all thing.
Grumpy Pup Ya know... mass sickness, hospitals over flowing... death. Do you not wear your seat belt and jay walk into traffic to prove how bad ass you are as well?
R57 M I totally hit the nail on the head, didn’t I 🤣🤣🤣. Again your free to go find your happiness and if Oregon isn’t doing it for you no one is forcing you to stay. Go start a Go fund me. I’d be glad to chip in $50 for you moving expenses. Then the people of that state can listen to you bitch about how much it sucks there as well.
Yes a lot of the support for it comes from the decisions regarding agriculture that have been made regarding taxes on agriculture and regulations on farming and ranching and i really dont blame them because Oregon legislation dont care about them never has. but in reality its not going to happen.
Why do you keep giving oxygen to this nonsense? Can't find a news-worthy story? Geez!
Yeah. But the story is always a bit of infotainment as well as new vs the actual 5pm newscast.
@@redcurrantart Agreed, but I guess I am simply suffering from Trump fatigue. I've had enough of him.
Samantha Winburn Totally get it. Horror movie isn’t over yet and who knows what the monster will do next before it’s done... but just 71 more days. I kind of want to just get a calendar to console myself and tick off each day till then, lol.
@@redcurrantart I have a count-down clock on my computer desktop. Had 2; watched the first one count to to zero, now I watch the other one count down to Jan 20 at noon.
@@bluepyramid44 Awesome! I need to look for that.
Oregon really isn't interested in your 4th grade education levels, but sure, give it the old 6th grade try whydontcha.
You mock the people who grow your food, supply your energy, work your plumbing, gas and water. And then get pissy when they want to join another state. But yea, Oregon really does care about the little guy, the common man.
@@scparker6893 food? Most food comes from China
Mate half your population uses “Muh Medicine” as an excuse for their addiction to weed don’t go after Idaho’s education system lmfao
Fu*k greater Idaho!!!
Well if you don’t like the country move . Stop trying to change it from capitalism to socialism.
That lady they interviewed has no idea what she's talking about. She sounds like she's from Portland
As an eastern Oregonian I support this 100%
If US if to survive, this is the only way
High levels of inbreeding, corruption and small town hierarchies in NEast Oregon. Very dangerous place to visit or move to for “outsiders” to them.
My family has been eastern Oregon for 160 years and the upper country of Idaho for just as long. Words Unheard is sadly right about the small town hierarchies, partly about the corruption, and totally wrong about the inbreeding. You MJ on the other hand, is the exact opposite. Portland and Vancouver is filled with corruption(look at the gentrification, that only happens from massive corruption) and fascists(just look at BLM and Antifa). In the rural pacific northwest, you fail and succeeded based on your own merits. Even if someone is racist in word, they are almost certainly not in deed, and you can tell what someone truly believes not by what they say, but by what they do. Portland on the other hand is full of the white liberals that Malcolm X said was the greatest danger to the American Black man. JMJ
@@johnphipps4105: Eastern/rural Oregon is full of addicts and Sex Offenders.
@@nanwilder2853 Western oregon has 10 times more of them, and at least we try to take care of ours. What is your point and where is your proof?
Oregon is not Portland!
Fuck Portland!
Reporters report facts, Opinionist report opinions. I hear nothing but resent for the people of this movement from Danny. Not everyone thinks alike. As soon as Danny can realize this he will understand true diversity.
I would like to see the State of Greater Idaho become a reality. Less land mass for the Commies is always good!
It might make Idaho communist though
Thats how communism and soicalism starts...
This is still my favorite map as of 2023
Terrible, terrible idea!!!! We need balanced gov. Which we have been in a Repulsican stranglehold for 30 years!! More intelligent nation's are not against taxation if that means free college, high education standard for everyone, free health care.
Orrr just move to Idaho and leave everyone else out of it.
These people were there before the dirtbag Politicians & Evil Liberals in Portland & Salem.
Idaho isn't big enough. Lack of housing.
@@LauraBeeDannon Are you saying that Idahoans are too stupid to build houses?
Gerrymandering taken to the extreme....
She is correct Idaho don't have good social problems and has higher taxes and taxed on everything.
Wait a minute! What about Tuolumne County, California???
Just do the opposite. Just keep what you have and bring in Idaho ideas and flags to your county. Be Idaho without moving it's border. Act and be like Idaho
The people's republic of Portland.
I hope this works out but we can’t get to California maybe Washington but not California
LOL. Let Idaho see the sea.
You can have your silly little backwards state.
If you live in Oregon, and you like Idaho better, just move to Idaho and STAY THERE.
That way everybody is happy.
Keep Trump's fascist theocracy out of Oregon!
Good luck with that 😂 can’t believe this is even being spoken about. Great reporting guys
Zachary Morgan I’m from Oregon born here. I love the idea❣️.
And when Virginia Democrats would not end slavery...a section broke off, just like this....and the State of West Virginia was born! So yea, it can happen, and its not as hard as you think.
I'm from Oregon. I HATE the idea. I grew up in Eastern Oregon and live in Western Oregon now. The whole state is beautiful and so geographically diverse. It would be tragic to have some of that beauty not be a part of Oregon anymore.
Good news for you, that land doesn't go away. It just gets to be a little more free.
@@cowboyx9380 great June 25, 1788 reference, totally see how the two could be compared 😂 🤦🏻♂️
Please include Sierra County California into state of Idaho!
Ew
It’s beautiful
@@Linneom horrible.
I love that they are reporting all purely hypotheticals these days up in Portland
Red Handmaid's Tale
No don’t make Idaho a communist state plz
Do it!!!!
Leave Oregon alone
From here in the East Coast, this was a bullshit hit piece. Go Greater Idaho!!
Come out
This should tell you to get rid of your progressive ideals. It's high taxes for the homeless and progressive ideals of Seattle
Yeah! No………
LMAO!!!
This guy is totally panicking. Propagandist on damage control.
Telosa
If you don't like it here than just move... you all said. So take your advice
@@seer77 bullshit. Go preach that shit to OSU. they are the only ones hiking Oregon property prices. 😆
@@seer77 that's in all of Oregon. Californians have sent the prices skyrocketing so locals are driven out. The only thing new is that it has gotten worse, and now East Coasters are headed here in droves, too.
@@themountainsandthesea4121 you must be a native American Oregonian right? Otherwise, why would you whine about an invasion that you're a part of?
I fcking hate Oregon. Everybody should leave and leave NOW!
Nah. That is not the truth. Not a bunch of you ---// from California n-- to stay the hell o. Not a bunch of you ---// from California n-- to stay the hell o.
So as an urbanist in the western part of the state and member of the democratic majority I gotta ask why would we let Eastern oregon and it's resources go? Why would I let rural oregonians off the hook for their share of the taxes? You've gotta be kidding. I'm voting no.
This hillbilly delusion will never make it anywhere. Nobody in Idaho with two brain cells to rub together wants Oregon's welfare counties anyway
vocal fryyyyyyy
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Backed a loser eh? sucks to be you
Don't like Oregon? Move your ass to Idaho.
Who likes potatoes!?
Duh,99.9% of Americans !
I live in Idaho. Why would we who live here want this? Just move here. Everyone is doing that anyways
Idaho gets some shoreline lol
@@TattleDelta sure but I can drive the same shoreline either way. Not really a difference.
@@davezedman don't try and make sense of this ridiculous hillbilly pipe dream
Welcome to Idaho Oregon !! Keep Oregon's left wing crap in Oregon
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