Selecting The BEST THERMOSTAT!
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- Опубліковано 29 чер 2024
- Selecting the best thermostat for your wants and needs has become a bit of a chore in the HVAC industry. It can be daunting to figure out which is the best one for your home when there are so many thermostat brands, models, features, and price points. In this video, Joshua Griffin shares some of the things you should consider when comparing thermostats and their options. He also shares his favorite thermostat to date.
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0:00 Intro: Comparing Thermostats
0:34 What does it look like?
1:37 Mechanical or Digital
1:55 Stages, Heat Pump, Dual Fuel
3:41 Communicating Thermostats
4:47 Accessory Capability
5:25 Scheduling, Geo-Fencing, Talk Commands
6:42 Alerts, Errors, Icloud control
7:41 My Favorite Thermostat
9:22 Outro: Your thoughts?
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Great stuff Josh! You hit the nail on the head, so many options so much info thank you for breaking it all down.
I gonna go check out that Honeywell thermostat you just mentioned. Thank you for that suggestion.
thanks for this, it was very helpful
Being a professional, I’d be interested to hear your thoughts on Ecobees. As a consumer I liked them in my old house to track runtimes, etc... Our new house has a Trane single stage compressor heat pump paired with a Trane TEM6 air handler, which is considered variable speed but our builders contractor paired it with a T6 Pro so it isn’t set up to use R-comfort. I just have the standard heat pump wiring with aux heat at my thermostat but it still makes me nervous swapping them out. I don’t think it will be an issue because the Honeywell isn’t controlling the fan speed or anything. The TEM6 is basically set up as a constant speed from what I can tell. The contractor didn’t set it to do the ramping or anything. Without the Trane 824 thermostat, it can’t modulate humidity so the ecobee shouldn’t act any different than my Honeywell I assume. All the installer did was set the fan to run for 90 seconds after a call for heat or cooling stops. All I would do is set the ecobee to not run the fan after a call stops so the ecm will continue to do it’s operation as current. Only thing is, the T6 Pro lets you set CPH where ecobee doesn’t. I’m not sure that’s an issue or not.
Last spring, I had to replace my 16 yo thermostat due to battery leakage. Knowing I would probably replace my HVAC (A/C with gas furnace) in the near future, I purchased a Honeywell T9 as I was expecting to upgrade to a heat pump with gas. Fast forward about 7 months, we made the decision to go ahead and do the upgrade but with a 2 stage furnace and heat pump. To make a long story short, the installer was having problems wiring correctly for all features to work. Calling Resideo (Honeywell), we find out that the T9 was incompatible with heat pump/ 2 stage heating. Had to get a T10. So I essentially wasted my money on the T9. This brings up another question. Is a single stage heat pump with 2 stage furnace a 1C/2H or 1C/3H system?
Any idea what thermostat controls a separate dehumidifier? The tech installed a sense touch, and wired the dehumidifier to turn on when the hvac/ furnace comes on. It's not working well at all and the humidity is out of control.
Would be interesting to know about the two gas heaters, 80% vs. 90%. How much is operation savings with all other factors remaining equal? Same for newer AC systems, 15 SEER vs. 16 SEER vs. 18 SEER vs. 20 SEER vs 22 SEER vs 25 SEER all other factors remaining the same such as gas/power rates envelope, ducting etc.
I have heard from the industry that the extra cost isn't worth it but no one lays out the savings that are gained by going with the 22 SEER vs. 15 SEER or 16 SEER. There are some customers and properties that do see some benefits in higher initital HVAC cost to reach a spending goal on gas or electric power that THEY are comfortable with. I know of some folks who would rather have their more esxpensive assets saving them money with their electric or gas utility vs. shelling out high dollars monthly to them.
When I put in a 2 stage Trane I bought the Trane 824. . It didn't work. It would go back and forth between the 2 stages. Sometimes it would just shut off for 3 minutes. They replaced it with another 824 and same issues. They then put in a 1050. The temp readings were way off so it was replaced with another 1050 and again same issue. Finally the put in a Aprilaire and it worked. In the end the techs admitted that they were having issues with the Trane thermostats.
I use Prostat1 they have a large selection and every time I have called for tech they answer the phone. They have the blue screen which is kinda calming. Have had very little trouble.
Hello, I'm looking for a thermostat that I can program with separate winter (heat) and summer (cool) schedules/setpoints. Everything I see now has just one common schedule. Is there something available?
hi im a first time homeowner i have central air and radiator heater my question is regarding my thermostat it says cool off heat is the are for the radiators?
Bought a new Honeywell 8000 , not happy with it. Just ordered a new Sensi Touch 2 Smart. By videos I have watched programming seems easier. Hope it works with my duel fuel Rheem system. Any advice on these units is much appreciated .
Several months ago I installed the Ecobee . Works great , excellent instructions, customer service was immediate for a question and the interface has lots of useful detail. I also bought extra remote sensors which really help reduce waste. I have a two stage system and the data tells me how much each stage is used (so far for cooling).
What do you think of aprilaire 8920w?
To control my ac, 2 stage gas furnace, dehumidifier and humidifier…. Is there anything else out there, that can do that?
I use a thermostat just for my heat. I have forced hot water baseboard. Would a nest be ok for that?
Here is my issue, I live in Central Florida and have a Carrier Heat pump sys. For the last year my sys will go to AUX heat and blow cold for ten minutes, then go to normal heat. My heating contractor has replaced a DEFROST SEN...that didn't work, then a DEFROST CONTROL BOARD, again that didn't work. Now they want to replace a thermostat.....any ideas. By the way my unit is only eight years old.
Looking for a recommendation. Installing a inverter heat pump and a single stage gas furnace. Some of thermostats give a 1 or 2 stage heat pump, do some thermostats give an inverter option? Dose any of the thermostats give me an option to do the change over to gas at up to 50 degrees? I am interested in the changeover from electric to gas depending on the cost of gas and electricity. Thanks in advance
You only need a cold weather heat pump not dual fuel etc. You do not need heat strips etc but you need to understand how it works. Also an energy audit of your home and I believe an independent study and design. A very good communicating thermostat with great algorithms. For real details and deep dive on this see videos by Abode Energy, NEEP, Maine Heat Pump Study and take it from there. Lots of great videos on UA-cam to educate yourself. Japan, Korea, Norway, Sweeden, Europe all use Heat Pumps some for decades. No duel fuel gas, oil or electric resistor heat strips needed. Abode has a paper / print out on their website for example on how to run your heat pump. It is different than a furnace, set it and forget it at first. It may be running a lot but it’s a very efficient variable speed electric motor pumping refrigerant not nurning oil or gas. You have to trust it and experience the results for heating and cooling.
Make dealer show you calculations for your annual BTU Needs and convert your oil, gas or electric resistance heat vs heat pump running costs for your local climate area.
There are calculators in the Internet to do these things for you. If your dealer or installer won’t do for you hire someone who will even if it costs you $200 or $300 dollars it is money well spent and will probably save you money and prevent buyers remorse. Trust but Verify!
Best all around reliable thermostat is Honeywell TH 8321R 1003. Covers everything including multistage dual fuel heat pump and with RedLink, a snap to connect other components. Never had one fail.
I would go with the nest or ecobee any day. They have smarts that have saved me a lot of heating/cooling costs. Also, getting historical usage data is great. It can help correlate with utility bills
I have an odd situation. My dog has developed severe anxiety over the relay click on our thermostat. I am looking for a thermostat that has the quietest click or no relay click at all. Any recommendations? I don't care if it is smart or not
I’m not a pro, but if the click comes from the thermostat itself, perhaps find a clear plastic plexiglass box/case to put on the wall to try and isolate /dampen the sound (put cushions/foam pads in there, etc.) or you could get a metronome and and turn the clicking into a game to make dog realize there nothing to fear? Also not an expert. Just ideas.
I just want a simple thermostat I can access via WiFi, set a schedule or just set the temperature.
I bought a nest and I absolutely hate it and need something that works for me.
Biggest issue with the Nest is setting a schedule or setting a temperature does nothing…it wants to “learn” and adjust , based on when your not home or whatever. Problem is, I’m usually not on the main level so it’s setting it to 76 and Hot AF…setting it to 72 starts cooling but then changes itself to 76 again… you can’t lock in the temp and can’t turn off the “learning”, you can reset it so it does it less but eventually it goes full “FU, be hot” mode…Hate it.
Check out a Sensi 2 or Honeywell T6 Pro WiFi. They are both good options that our customers seem to like
@@NewHVACGuide will do, thanks!
I appreciate hearing your thoughts on thermostats, but your favorite themostat gets terrible reviews on Honeywells website. I'm having a new Trane gas furnace installed next week and it's the one they were going to install with it. I'm not sure why they would choose it over a Trane.
Hi Josh! How do I get hold of you for personal advice on my particular situation. I need to replace a dead thermostat. Thanks.
Unfortunately Josh and his team do not do DIY. So sorry
Josh, I know you sell Daikin; I would consider a Daikin inverter system, but I really would like the thermostat to have remote temperature sensor capability. I have a gas log in the same room as main thermostat and this screws up the temperature in rest of home during the winter. Having a remote sensor in our master bedroom has solved this issue. Trane has this capability on its communicating thermostats, but I can't seem to find that Daikin does. Do you know??
I've been told that capability is coming out this year
@@NewHVACGuide Thanks for the quick reply; I am in Columbia SC so I'm going to try to get a local Daikin contractor to get me a quote on a system
@@NewHVACGuide BTW Daikin acquired Venstar in December 2022. I have a Venstar Voyager T3700 with added wifi module and it works very well as does the iPhone app. I don't really like so many of the bells and whistles of the Nest and Ecobee. Also, the Venstar has screw terminals and will still work with stranded cable and my place has that. The only downside for me is that it isn't as attractive as a Nest. Maybe now that they're owned by Daikin they give it an asthetic makeover.
Seems like the honeywell thermostats dont have swing value/deadband. My new Honeywell is pretty, but ot turns off for 15 minutes and turns back on for 20, off for 15, on for 20. And thats going to cost more electricity.
I have a digital thermostat put in a new home two years ago but it’s not smart thank goodness. Heard someone talking about how there are entities who may be able to turn off your systems thermostat if it’s a smart one. Kind of like shutting off electric cars if you don’t make your payments. So if they decide there’s too much energy being used, they can just shut everyone down and they could either get too hot or too cold because of that. Wondering if they can do that to just my regular digital one? And if so, would going back to the old fashion analog be a way to get around this? I remember liking those round honey wells
It’s time to seek help.
@@syoung20001 that wasn’t helpful
@@syoung20001 Spot on right, it happened in Texas last year when the grid was stressed. Not all conspiracies are untrue, my friend
They can only take control of you sign up for it…they try to entice you with discounts from the brand or power company and it’s in the fine print that they can lock you out as needed.
The Nest has been really unreliable for my dual fuel system. Its a little known secret that they still depend on the battery even with a C wire and when they fail it doesnt matter that its hardwired. I have yet to find a thermostat that plays well with dual fuel and smart features and Im in the hvac business.
I went with the Honeywell TH8321 and dumped the Nest. More control with the Honeywell. Not fancy and not color... but it works. Have a York HMH7 with a York TM9V060 gas furnace.
Exactly right. TH 8313R is RedLink and with the Gateway, internet connected. Thats all I install. For multi stage dual fuel heat pump, you can’t find better.
we have a fairly large AC unit ( has a 24 volt start connector ) outside that runs on Natural gas with a sort of standard forced air heater, When replacing the wall thermostat do i need to get a special amperage rating? What is the difference between a heat pump and an air ( cooler ) conditioner ? Thank you
Just replaced my old programmable thermostat with a non-programmable thermostat. Reason? I am in my home 90% of the time, so a programmable thermostat does me no good. The old one had a cracked terminal board, causing the set temp to change independently. Frustrating. Even after resetting the thermostat, I still did it. Another reason not to have a programmable thermostat.
Do you know if the ecobee will work with a dual fuel heat pump? I can't seem to get a direct answer from ecobee
They make at least one model that does. We just replaced it because it was not switching to gas when it should because of the power company controlling it somehow. We had to eliminate it entirely so the customer didn't have anymore issues.
@HVAC Guide for Homeowners thanks for the quick reply. I'm trying to find a good smart thermostat I can control with my phone for this setup. You happen to have any suggestions which works best for a dual fuel system
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@@NewHVACGuide Thank you so much!!
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Agreed with the battery powered thermostats...not a good idea due to two reasons which are: they often leak and will damage the part and unless you replacement them often, your HVAC is disabled when the battery runs low. We recently replaced ours and decided on the Honeywell 9585 series as for one, it was on sale $79 vs. $199 and it had the C wire we wanted as well as the app to remotely operate the system with your smart phone. We rarely use the scheduled high and low settings because we experienced higher heating and cooling bills by setting the temps lower in winter nights and higher in summer nights. I guess it took more gas/power to bring the temps up or down as needed from stone cold or sweaty hot vs. leaving the setting alone throughout the seasons. Some folks are still overdoing it with 72 or 70 settings in summer and 74 or so in winter so I dread to hear about their expenses.
We were in a home that had a recently installed Lennox HVAC 90+% heat and 21 SEER AC and it had a proprietary iComfort S30 thermostat that was beautiful with tons of features. The screen must have been 5" or so in size. That one was very nice and had all of the WiFi and remote features as well. Sadly, those are selling for $900.
I get more calls because of Nest and Echobee. They are consumer grade overpriced junk.
Thanks for that information 👍
LOL For Griffin Air. it better be a thermostat that doesn't need to be reset if power is lost because god forbid someone puts in batteries.
Merry Christmas to you and your family.
i still dont get why anyone would ever want wifi or cloud control of their hvac systems...
A great option for making adjustments while away from home on vacation. Also, one can start warning/cooling up the place before getting home so it's at a confident temp when one returns back. There are so many reasons
@@niyantx none of them are worth the risks.
@@sundogaudio851 what kind of risks worry you? I can see privacy or hacking as risks. Are there others?
@@niyantx those and then inability to get the data back.
Because when your out of town and your heat goes out you wont come home to an absolute disaster.