Project MENACE - PvP A Hidden Endgame of PoE

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  • Опубліковано 11 лип 2023
  • Here is a look at a build specifically designed to be a menace to as many builds as possible in a pvp situation. This character comes with very few weaknesses with as many built in counters to the vast majority of builds in the game. The simple goal here was to make a build that could stump as many builds as possible defensively while being a offensively a danger to those builds as well if GGG ever decides to update hall of grandmasters and allow flasks for grandmaster entries. Outside of that its been just a fun project to optimize a character for a different goal other than destroying pve content but rather attacking pvp content. PVP largely may seem like a meme to most but offers some hard optimization requirements in order to truly make a dominant build against other opponents.
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  • @Thaccus
    @Thaccus Рік тому +17

    Lance sees hogm drop: "man I wish that were more of a challenge"
    I see hogm drop: "oh look my filter isnt working right"

  • @Navonex
    @Navonex Рік тому +22

    Poe is the only game where i see builds like this and players go " man I messed this up"

  • @Keron250
    @Keron250 Рік тому +28

    Ay, thanks for the mention, my defense isnt that simple tho :D
    1. Xibaqua with 4x 90% resistances
    2. Maven's chest for that juicy 40% less chaos dmg taken its super strong with xibaqua
    3. Elemental flask ofc
    4. 25% less damage taken - resolve
    5. Both - armor does work vs ele hits (chaos mastery and jugg note ( 8% and 10%)
    6. I could use progenesis, but too poor :(
    7. 7250 life like 4500 regen if everything up and 35% ish recoup in 3sec
    8. And the last - 8% reduced ele dmg taken at max endu charges - i was
    So yeah, need to be quite tanky to do it :P

    • @ArawnOfAnnwn
      @ArawnOfAnnwn Рік тому

      I didn't understand 4 and 5, what're those from?

    • @vasilislang6421
      @vasilislang6421 Рік тому

      You got a pob? Interested in seeing the build. Also does it have any damage capabilities?

    • @Keron250
      @Keron250 Рік тому

      @@ArawnOfAnnwn 4th is "unique" maruder passive - you have to use forbidden flesh and flame. 5th is one from mastery armor and engergy shield and second is just jugg ascendency - unbrekable

    • @ArawnOfAnnwn
      @ArawnOfAnnwn Рік тому +1

      @@Keron250 Ah now I understand the confusion. You said resistances work against ele dmg, but it's actually the masteries that make armour work on it.

    • @Keron250
      @Keron250 Рік тому +1

      @@ArawnOfAnnwn Bruh, im stooopid, thanks! You know what they say about tanky characters, they're slow not only with maps (:

  • @djjoker12
    @djjoker12 Рік тому

    Another great video, thanks for that.

  • @slouch186
    @slouch186 Рік тому +13

    i'd like to see a PVP tournament. each player can bring like idk 3 builds? i want to see what degenerates come up with

    • @CaptainLance9
      @CaptainLance9  Рік тому +6

      would be pretty neat tbh considering all the possible shenanigans that can be done

    • @f.jideament
      @f.jideament Рік тому +1

      ​​@@CaptainLance9if someone beats you in pvp does that mean they will be CaptainLance10?

  • @overlord8000
    @overlord8000 Рік тому +3

    quick tip, you can mitigate impale builds by getting immunity to reflected physical damage, as impale counts as reflected damage.

  • @jaysonenglish6137
    @jaysonenglish6137 Рік тому

    Jim the legend with the shield chance, build was a pain to get the gear but was pretty much stud in the end.

  • @V___X
    @V___X Рік тому +18

    Can we still challenge you to PVP to try our builds against it?
    Also time to wait for this to go into std and use the scourge glove downside of "Your Hits cannot Stun Enemies"

    • @CaptainLance9
      @CaptainLance9  Рік тому +3

      Yes, just message me in game if you want to try a pvp, that scourge downside would be a good loophole past bloodnotch

    • @ArawnOfAnnwn
      @ArawnOfAnnwn Рік тому

      ​@@CaptainLance9Bloodnotch is gonna get murdered after this league anyway.

  • @sendneubs
    @sendneubs 11 місяців тому

    I think my Juggernaut Fire Hit Explode Totem would do decent here if it was optimized. Really tanky and huge burst damage that can't be blocked. Fun video!

  • @carlosm.6333
    @carlosm.6333 11 місяців тому

    Would ascendancy like occultist that disables regen be able to ruin your build? Or recoup/on block effect are enough

  • @jordan-eu8db
    @jordan-eu8db 11 місяців тому +1

    i dont play PoE, but i was searching youtube for pvp videos because i was hoping the game had good pvp and that it would be a good reason to play PoE. thanks for showing what a waste a time the pvp is.

  • @notjoeyg666
    @notjoeyg666 11 місяців тому

    i wanna see this thing in action!

  • @TheModdedwarfare3
    @TheModdedwarfare3 Рік тому +1

    Could you cheese this character with doryani's prototype and using a chaos skill that hits hard like hexblast or impending doom? 45% of chaos damage taken as lightning, which CANNOT be converted again because it's not allowed and then deal 45% of that chaos hit as lightning to -200% lightning resist?

    • @CaptainLance9
      @CaptainLance9  Рік тому +3

      this was an idea a guy in twitch chat had, the issue is doryani has "cannot deal non lightning damage" so your hexblast would deal 0 chaos damage and thus would need to have a bunch of added lightning somehow

  • @Billy4321able
    @Billy4321able Рік тому +1

    If there was some way to make a reflect damage build you could bypass Bloodnotch entirely. Reflect damage like the damage done by impale doesn't trigger stuns.

    • @CaptainLance9
      @CaptainLance9  Рік тому +3

      so far impale has seemed effective which means in the future to account for that I need to spec some reduced reflect damage taken just for impale builds I think

  • @john6717
    @john6717 Рік тому +1

    I wish someone had a HOGM token to have this guy entered into it.

  • @Inev
    @Inev Рік тому +1

    Thanks for the duel, yeah easily beat my armourstacker, grats :D

    • @CaptainLance9
      @CaptainLance9  Рік тому +1

      armour stacker will be a lot more competitive if they ever change it being calculted before pvp downscaling.

  • @Doucze
    @Doucze Рік тому +1

    I may have missed something, wouldn't an omniscience build be able to penetrate your damage conversion? Either way, insane build and seems like it was a fun project. Kudos!

    • @CaptainLance9
      @CaptainLance9  Рік тому +3

      Omni builds can acquire the pen 100% but generally omni builds have very little defence(easy for me to one shot them) and on top of that omni builds typically are scaling speed/multi hit mechanics that do extremely poorly against bloodnotch sustain. so far I have not died to an omni build(so far they were all bow builds though which is probably on the weaker side of one shot skills)

    • @Doucze
      @Doucze Рік тому

      @@CaptainLance9 interesting. This char might then die to a high one hit slam omni build but nobody builds that. Once again, a very interesting project which gives ideas for other builds as well.

    • @inceneration
      @inceneration 11 місяців тому

      @@CaptainLance9 Bow builds in general are weak in pvp. But a specific build made for pvp would require a lot of investment and knowlegde about the mechanics of the specific char they have to fight or builds in general. But omni can easierly reach 150+% Pen which would make it possible to be a one shot build without a problem but defence is gonna be a problem no matter what since the stat stacking will be taking over majority of the defensive aspects of the build. a Omni nado basicly only has like 20k armor - 75 res 75 chaos res immunity to ailments and then spell suppress and thats where it ends with a life pool of maybe 4000-4500 depending on currency sunk into the build. Its insane how much investment bow builds needs to be good xD LOVE the content tho :P You are definintly up there with Empyrian and his team of crafters xD Only difference is that you do all of it yourself as i understood :P

  • @EvanWSH
    @EvanWSH Рік тому +1

    Btw im pretty sure you can basically nullify impale builds completely by having a few sources of reduced phys reflect taken. Lime 1 ring + pantheon or something .

    • @CaptainLance9
      @CaptainLance9  Рік тому +2

      yeah it didn't really occur to me later that impale is reflect damage and gets around bloodnotch so probably need to spec a bit more intentionally for it

  • @slutmonke
    @slutmonke Рік тому +1

    does the mark mastery also turn off regen?

    • @CaptainLance9
      @CaptainLance9  Рік тому +1

      just tested against someone and it bricks life regen and not ES regen, the mark is removed each round so would still hard to win a 1v1 via this mark unless you could survive some hits while you wait for me to spend my life, i have atleast 5 shots till i use my lifepool with rathpith.

  • @ChubbyPOE
    @ChubbyPOE Рік тому +3

    Can you kill a copy of your char or neither can kill the other?

    • @CaptainLance9
      @CaptainLance9  Рік тому +2

      correct I could not kill my own character if cloned it outside of some cheese bricking regen

  • @Gid-J
    @Gid-J Рік тому

    needs non specific penetration. So Crystalized Omni? Does that work?

  • @leonsmuk4461
    @leonsmuk4461 Рік тому

    how does this hold up against the inverted elemental res mastery?

    • @CaptainLance9
      @CaptainLance9  Рік тому

      the res mastery only works on monsters similar to inquisitor resistance ignore so would not work in pvp unfortunately.

  • @rodionromanovichraskolniko7960

    Is their any other boots craft than freeze immunity? Looks like you already have that covered in your watcher's eye.

    • @CaptainLance9
      @CaptainLance9  Рік тому

      idk what that comment was from fake account, dont respond to it, its a scam. But as for boot craft thats a great point, I forgot I had freeze immunity on watchers eye so swapping for more life or another craft is definitely the play.

  • @lala97849
    @lala97849 11 місяців тому

    how does this hold up against something like jix aurastacker? which nuked ggnoobs.

  • @taiwanisacountry
    @taiwanisacountry Рік тому

    All PVP builds in my opinion should have 100% reduce life regen rate for the enemy. It is crazy how many builds in grandmaster who uses RF for damage, or just outright RF build.

  • @Raskoril
    @Raskoril Рік тому +1

    My build generally stomps everyone in the Arena and I can usually just walk through HoGM. Would be fun to try against this build.

    • @CaptainLance9
      @CaptainLance9  Рік тому +1

      if you see me online message me and ill pvp you

  • @sirannonable
    @sirannonable Рік тому +1

    Erm marked enemies cannot regenerate?

    • @ArawnOfAnnwn
      @ArawnOfAnnwn Рік тому

      Only works on life regen, not ES regen.

  • @sinisasub85
    @sinisasub85 Рік тому +2

    Any chance of making a proper build guide, including a more budget friendly version? I'd love to try something like this, perhaps even the next league!

    • @CaptainLance9
      @CaptainLance9  Рік тому +2

      I would not recommend this as a build if you intend to do pve content personally but if you wanted to take out the majority of cost of the build and make it a lot more affordable I would suggest dropping suppress all together, dropping tempered by war OR melding so you can afford res without mageblood, and dropping 1 passive voices with the grand spectrums. That should still be a fairly strong functional character but with most the cost taken out. And last use the 6L i had basically empty in the char instead of making a multilink wand. but again I do NOT recommend this build for pve content without more additional tweaks.

    • @sinisasub85
      @sinisasub85 Рік тому

      @@CaptainLance9 This is very useful info, ty! 👍

  • @fluffrier
    @fluffrier Рік тому

    On track to triple HoGM brick rate next league I see.

  • @Correct_Opinion
    @Correct_Opinion Рік тому

    Can it survive occultist - 100% life regen rate?

    • @Correct_Opinion
      @Correct_Opinion Рік тому

      Nvm I should have watched the whole video before commenting

  • @btarczy5067
    @btarczy5067 Рік тому

    First he breaks the game and now he breaks us! Someone, anyone, stop this menace!

  • @jsing5022
    @jsing5022 Рік тому

    Can it tank cold reap?

    • @CaptainLance9
      @CaptainLance9  Рік тому

      I don't know, I would think so but maybe not if you have a cold reap build you want to try in 1v1 you can message me in game to try it

  • @boyinpyjamas
    @boyinpyjamas 10 місяців тому

    so all omni builds ignore all that resist shifting xD cool idea tho :D

  • @baraklight
    @baraklight Рік тому

    if all pen works doesnt that mean that every omni build will win?

  • @catedoge3206
    @catedoge3206 Рік тому +1

    dissolution of the flesh?

    • @CaptainLance9
      @CaptainLance9  Рік тому +1

      dissolution is quite bad in pvp scenarios as its hard to ever disengage to recover life but it might be solid enough to work decently just never tank would be guess.

  • @MrMarkusz
    @MrMarkusz Рік тому +2

    PvP LOGIN
    Very good results for a beginner in PvP, it is hard to build tanky for 1v1s where flasks dont recharge, and also not using any swaps, not even the BCR gem
    Even tho PvP in this game is very abandoned the balance is suprisingly good, there are many different skills and almost all archetypes viable, tanks, glasscannons and rounded characaters are all good in certain areas, there is no single build type that dominates everything, every build has some counter

  • @stephenvp
    @stephenvp 9 місяців тому

    Do people play pvp in this game?

  • @user-lo1gt6dh6h
    @user-lo1gt6dh6h 9 місяців тому

    Vaal Reap and Vall burning arrow rekt this build (

  • @zoozooen
    @zoozooen Рік тому

    Very interesting. I only have played around 100 maps so far but my simple scion wardloop is unbeaten atm.

  • @taintedstrike7513
    @taintedstrike7513 Рік тому

    PoE seems to act quite similar on the human body as coke sometimes, hu?🥴

  • @kizzagaming6523
    @kizzagaming6523 Рік тому +1

    How you going to do this video Lance and then not have an entire 10 minute section dedicated to destroying people in pvp :D

    • @CaptainLance9
      @CaptainLance9  Рік тому

      too much time to try and track down clips of just 1 tapping people with flameblast, the most interesting clips I thought were some of the tank test clips but didn't want to get burnt out trying to edit it together.

    • @kizzagaming6523
      @kizzagaming6523 Рік тому

      @@CaptainLance9 Classic tank addict Lance. No worries lol, still watched it :)

  • @Sloth-ZA
    @Sloth-ZA Рік тому

    poe ranked pvp matchmaking LOGIN

  • @Checkem
    @Checkem Рік тому +1

    Fight GGNoobs

    • @CaptainLance9
      @CaptainLance9  Рік тому +2

      just a stalemate I can't kill him and he can't kill me. However if he swaps for some reduced regen rate spec and grabs a phys dot skill he could kill me if I stand still and do not try to evade eventually i believe.

  • @epyjacek
    @epyjacek Рік тому

    Bruh

  • @OnlyfansCustomerSupport
    @OnlyfansCustomerSupport 11 місяців тому

    Most noobs in lvl 28 ranked PvP also die to your tempest shield ^^

  • @beausweatman9623
    @beausweatman9623 6 місяців тому

    Starting to get into POE regardless of hearing it’s “zero” PVP at this point. But after seeing this it seems a small community still exists?
    (multiplayer games that don’t have functional multiplayer systems 😂 aren’t worth their salt imo but im making an exception for POE cuz it looks like it’ll scratch that SWEAT LORD ITCH)

  • @an-94abakan88
    @an-94abakan88 11 місяців тому

    Regeneration in PvP...... Kekw...

  • @bhwung
    @bhwung Рік тому +1

    Please don't submit to hotg😢

    • @CaptainLance9
      @CaptainLance9  Рік тому +2

      it wouldn't work in hotg currently as from what I am told because flasks are disabled for submissions so a mageblood char just wont function there.... yet ;)

  • @joshuahensley9395
    @joshuahensley9395 Рік тому +6

    meanwhile im like you could take hall of GM out of the game completely and i'd be happy

    • @gabrielsmith3993
      @gabrielsmith3993 Рік тому +3

      Why? You never are forced to run it. Why take something out of the game that offers others fun at no cost to yours?

    • @jsing5022
      @jsing5022 Рік тому

      @@gabrielsmith3993wouldn’t say no cost; it is known for its mirror card drop chance that isn’t in regular maps I’m pretty sure

    • @gabrielsmith3993
      @gabrielsmith3993 Рік тому +2

      @@jsing5022 farming hogm has not been profitable for years so there is no opportunity lost there. The immortal drops more often from stacked decks and also can drop from putrid cloister boss.

    • @jsing5022
      @jsing5022 Рік тому

      @@gabrielsmith3993 I mean I haven’t seen any recent data to prove that it’s still unprofitable, do you have a link?

    • @arschmitohren90
      @arschmitohren90 Рік тому +4

      ​@@jsing5022 Theres tons of people who can't beat ubers - who also have some loot locked behind them. So lets remove ubers and aspirational content from the game :)
      I dont get your logic here. Loot doesn't always have to be accessible to everyone.

  • @FREMENc
    @FREMENc Рік тому +1

    huh? single mastery ruined whole build "marked enemy cannot regenerate life"

    • @CaptainLance9
      @CaptainLance9  Рік тому +1

      thats a good idea, I wonder how it works with pious path if it would disable ES regen as well or only mitigates the life portion. If it disables both then RF will degen me down till I can't be 1 shot but if it only disables life portion you will still be up a creek in defeating this character.

    • @FREMENc
      @FREMENc Рік тому

      @@CaptainLance9 It would be nice if you could test it and post the result, coz we all know in this game sometimes things don't work as they should, but in my opinion according to the wording it should work.

    • @FREMENc
      @FREMENc Рік тому

      @@CaptainLance9 1 more thing, is anyone trying frost bomb on you, coz even at 75%, reduce regeneration rate, all RF in hall of grandmasters melt in a seconds CATW

    • @CaptainLance9
      @CaptainLance9  Рік тому +1

      @@FREMENc most grandmasters were added before %regen rate stat was added to the game, as of right now you will need closer to 170% reduced regen rate to brick regen entirely on this char(pantheon+mastery+frostbomb sort of setup). also tested against mark mastery it bricks life regen but not ES regen so I would still sustain my own RF and you would need to overcome the recoup built into character while not dying. mark mastery is great start though.

    • @FREMENc
      @FREMENc Рік тому

      @@CaptainLance9 thx for info

  • @zacklubeck4274
    @zacklubeck4274 9 місяців тому

    Poe is the only game I see people playing in there garage…