I'm calling it right now: this game is going to be a broken piece of shit at launch. I'm noticing the exact same pattern with Avowed as I did with Redfall, and look how well Redfall turned out
No need to convince people it has been proven to work just fine for games for decades...now if some people prefer more then they prefer more.. but not every game is going to give more
@@sneakycacti all depends on how to make it.. if their set goals are 30 then itll be 30 If their set goals are 60 or more then it will be.. it's all up to how they want to do it nothing happens by accident it's all planned
@@adrazz_gaming the same thing they do about zelda they just ignore it and play and enjoy the games anyway.. but when it's an xbox game its automatically trash
3:20 nah bruh even if the game is turn based 60fps should be the bare minimum. It's 2024. The avowed devs talking about visual effects being the reason behind the dogshit frame rate, and I'm like "so make a performance mode then! It's not hard!" Aaron Greenburg - "60fps will be the standard, but we can actually go up to 120fps for the Series" Consoles are a joke.
Yep, 60FPS should be the bare minimum. The only place I can see 30 FPS being useful is on handhelds for battery life purposes. Even then I'd rather have 60 and get a little less battery. But that's about the only real reason I can see to still go with 30FPS in 2024.
Ignoring the frame rate (which shouldn’t be at 30. The current Xbox and PS5 should be powerful enough to consistently run at 60) I have little to no faith in Avowed because Outer Worlds kind of sucked (it’s funny just how much hype surrounded that game and how it was forgotten near instantly. People were rightfully pissed at Bethesda for Fallout 76 and Obsidian had a good track record so we were under the delusion they could deliver, despite the people who made New Vegas what it was were mostly gone. The product we got was mediocre at best and forgettable with VERY brief moments of brilliance).
30 fps would be a major L. Microsoft devs obviously will never learn. First Starfield, then Redfall now this. I remember Todd Howard giving a soliloquy about why 30 fps was better for Starfield (I believe he said it wasn't possible either), then they dropped a 60 fps patch that transformed the entire game. They pushed this game back not because of a crowded window, but to further optimize it I see.
Now come on, did you play Starfield at 30fps. If you did, why would they change your mind now if it ran at 30fps. Let them put the game together and then optimise for 60
Nothing to learn know that some people will cry over it. It is what it is.. they ll continue to make games how they want as they are the devs and it's their choice how they want to make their own game...
Remember BG3 a turned based game made sure its 60 fps before launching. There is no excuse to be 60 fps if you want more than 40$ for your game Like its fine release your 30 fps game but stop demanding full price for a 3rd rate product.
60fps is not only better because it feels smoother but imo it looks a lot better. So its tied to graphics as well. It adds so much to the Aesthetic of the game. Arts style and fps are the most important to how good a game looks
Holy shit, any first person game is totally unplayable in 30 fps, 60fps is the absolutely non negotioable minimum framerate. You don't need 4k, you don't need ray tracing, but you absolutely need 60fps... If they fail that, please close the damn studio and fire all the staff, I wouldn't want to see any of them work on another product for xbox ever again. This was such an dogshit take by the developer I can't believe it.
@@De1usionsofGrandeur 60 is not the standard for xbox's games; 30 is, which is funny when they're the company who advertised the xbox series as "the world's most powerful console".
@@dinar8749 and its advertised as the strongest console because it factually is... it's not like se haven't known what's inside these things for years... like if I have a high end PC but a game comes out that doesn't cause it's full capability can I not claim it's still a high end pc...
They know that pretty graphics sells video games. And we know this is prioritised over higher frame rates. But they're telling us that we don't want 60 FPS over 30 FPS. How about you stop doing that and sacrifice a little bit of visual quality to hit a solid frame rate? Just a suggestion 🔥
If it doesn't drop at all 30 is a solid framerate... and has been proven to work perfectly fine in gaming.. even games like zelda still get perfect 10 review scores despite being 30 fps.... all that really matters is if the game itself is good
There's no point in 30fps. We're in 2024, not 1994. The bare minimum should be 60fps, what with the monitors and GPUs today, hell, even TVs run at 120+fps and they should actually be working to deliver 1440p to be honest. And yeah, I'm not buying Avowed after this news. Congrats devs, it's a new way of killing your game, the other being, DEI/SBi and all that nonsense.
sometimes it takes time for me to adapt to 60 fps after playing for a while on my PC, to the point 60 fps look choppy and blurry, 30 is a slideshow tbh. I'm glad I won't have to suffer that low frame. Obsidian is probably in my top 3 devs, but they are dropping the ball hard here. Although Pillars of eternity are two of my favorite games ever, they run badly even on high end hardware due to optimization, and tbh It didn't take away the enjoyment as those games are so good. Now, obsidian being XBOX first party I expected the extra budget would work wonders on the optimization department. Still is my most expected game, I hope I can at least reach 120 fps with a trick here and there, so I don't worry myself, but I wanted console players to get a premium experience with this one, so sad...
@@glowinTHX One of the most beautiful things is getting mods for Quake, Hexen and Brutal DOOM 64 and running them on 120+ fps. Not to mention all of the remasters that Deep Dive is putting out on Steam like Blood, Powerslave and also run them on high fps. It's a fluid glory. It baffles me seeing new first person games (I'm looking at you Bethesda) coming out and your character having no body or a casting shadow when mods can make your character on DOOM 2 or Quake cast shadows and have real time lighting, not to mention making a game locked at 30fps... Its sad.
@@COLT_Chris it baffles me how they can't manage to give you unlocked frame rate mlde, capped 30 fps, dynamic resolution and other modes. People have different screens but they don't seem to care about the backlash, it gives the impression they're just lazy. I will check those shooters with mods btw, cool suggestions. thanks.
Seriously, we don't want to play games at 30 fps anymore. Include a performance mode. I started Wukong last night and didn't even think -- I immediately selected performance mode.
60fps is important, even in turn based games as it makes navigating menus feel significantly better, to say you don't need it in a first person game is actually moronic
Remember when one of the big selling points of this console generation was supposed to be games running at 120 fps? Or at least 60 fps in performance mode? I predicted this would happen. All the backwards compatible games would be 60 fps and it'd be great. Then the new gen games would start coming out and it'd be back to 30 fps. Sadly, I don't see this ever changing because you can advertise a game with pretty screenshots, but you can't really do the same with high frame rates.
its very likely true that the console CAN handle 120 fps. its just that the games graphics are considered higher priority than performance and gameplay. so you end up with a lower frame rate as a result. unless there is proof that the console having games run at 120 fps is just an outright lie and could never be done.
I mean.... Come on, guys! it's a shitty first-person shooter with bland colorless graphics that also requires no skill or coordination in any form! What purpose would 60 fps even serve to this kind of generic slop?
For reference, Sekiro: Shadows die twice Is capped at (cant go higher than) 60fps on both console and pc I believe, And SOME people would consider 60fps to be somewhere between too low - Average, Which to me is pretty average in all honesty, I mean sekiro runs perfectly fine, Nice and smooth, These people want half of the average 💀 Edit: also sekiro is completely single player unless your on pc then there are some mods that can make it have multiplayer.
So right away, we already know nobody's gonna be buying Avowed. I understand why a toaster like the Switch has to run some things at 30, but this is a fucking Xbox. The Xbox is literally a semi-PC, it's fully capable of running 60. Graphics will never matter as much as performance.
By offering a great looking new game... dont really understand this one.. if 30 fps killed game sales I wonder why multiple game of the years that were 30 fps didnt seem to have any issue at all
@@De1usionsofGrandeur by not understanding their fans and thinking they know better what those possible future players want. Also tell me which games cause i can only think of Baldurs Gate 3 (which has a problem with FPS especially in 3rd act but it's a very big game) and Alan Wake 2 which has 60fps mode (which is impressive tbh)
@@heronik79 for now they think gamers want a great new game in that universe and that's exactly what they plan on giving them.. and a lot of myself myself included cant wait to play it.. its definitely what I been looking for
@@De1usionsofGrandeur they can do a great new game that also works in decent fps that we were promised to have as a standard years ago but it's not. The game won't suffer from 60fps, actually the opposite
indie dev here and long time gamer. devs that say focus on ghraps are caping. you straight up can bearly push them all your really doing is trading fps for resolution . and say they do push the ghrapics well know they gota lower the res as well. so the ghrapics will look wack. Also no ,performance is the first thing you should focus on next to bugs.
@dinar8749 yeah I know but if I have to choose between them on a game like spiderman 2 I would rather have graphics and if it was a game where I need fast reaction I would rather have fps
@@De1usionsofGrandeur I dunno about you, but I'm really not a fan of 30FPS during gameplay, it's even worse when they've set that kind of FPS as their focus.
@@TheBerserkerXeno for I dont really care I let them make the game and it's either a good game or its not... I don't care what frames they run 30 or more.. although vr games need to be a minimum of 90 to not make you sick
@@De1usionsofGrandeur Ok? You claim to not care, yet were you expecting others to have your pov? I want FPS fitting for current gen, not Nintendo Switch fps focus.
@@TheBerserkerXeno I am not forcing anyone to have my view I just tell them that they are wrong when they say that 30 fps isnt playable that is factually wrong... but they can prefer to play however they want.. I just find it funny when I see people claim a games going to flop just cause it's not made their way
They probably skyrim'd it and fucked everything by tying events to the framerate instead of a proper tick system, and likely had it capped at 30 during development
So for an action shooter Rpg (starfield), 60fps isn't needed Now, for a fantasy rpg, you don't need 60fps as well When tf does xbox think 'you need' 60fps? 😂 The fanboys that gobble this shit up are completely scuffed
My disappointment is immeasurable & my day is ruined. Akshually , this Xbox Series consoles being de facto beta testers for inevitable ports. Its kinda expected that msft studios’ games have a crappy launch on Series. Nice video btw 👍
Clearly they didn't learn from Bethesdas 30fps folly with starfield. Everyone would rather trade visuals for fps. Pretty visuals usually mean lacking content. A highly polished turd. This is bad news. 😢
consoles must be able to hold either 120, 60 or 30 fps, because most TVs in the households still don't have VRR. a stable 30 fps IS better than a than constantly switching between 60 and 30 fps. However it's still disappointing. 60 fps should be standard, but I think people should understand, what the dev means and why he formulates things the way he did.
You know what's scary? That the optimization in their games is so bad that I get better performance with Black Myth: Wukong running with Cinematic settings (maxed out) and Ray Tracing on Ultra than in some of the city places in Pillars Of Eternity. Not saying PoE is harder to run than that game. It's just that in my case, because I have a good GPU, and the game has really poor CPU usage optimization (not that uses a lot. More like it doesn't use what you have correctly), the GPU I have is irrelevant because it's limited by the poor optimization of the game, so, sure, it's easier to run, but if you have a good PC it will run worst than many other titles, and because of this, I'm worried Avowed will have the same issues as Starfield.
I'll never care about this stuff Bloodborne is a 30fps masterpiece I'll give them the benefit of the doubt considering avowed has been in production way before Microsoft acquired them in which they wasn't that big nor funded. I agree with the graphics though never cared for prettiness
I rather take a game that maxes out the PS4 in terms of graphics then uses the extra performance of the PS5 to get min 60fps and as high resolution as possible. Unreal5 dosent even look that much better than Unreal3 and the newer consoles cant even handel Unreal5 . Just look at Arkham Knight on PS4. That uses Unreal Engine 3 and still holds up today.
you got promesd 60 fps and then we got 30 fps though i think there should be a way to switch to a more performance methood option to make it 60 fps i mean it can look nice for the screen shots but we need that performance option for 60 fps
PC. Nuff said, save your money and build your own PC a trained gibbon can assemble a custom PC those claiming it’s too expensive are talking out of their ass 😂
Now my theory, and I can't prove it but it's my hypothesis, is that he has something to gain by making it 30, maybe it'll make him more money, maybe he thinks it will, or maybe it'll just save him a lot of work and he's being lazy Either way he's pretending to be dumber than he is and making up excuses so that he'll be able to launch the game at 30
Look, not to sound like a fanboy, but I honestly don't care about fps, I mean, I still played pmttyd despite the 30fps, besides the gameplay is good, it looks amazing, and the soundtrack is amazing!
This is why I hate the bumping debate of games' frame rates! I've been gaming since the mid to late 90's, so I believed that the gameplay matters more than the frame rate!
Not really... They said the main development pipeline focused on the 30fps mode on Xbox Series in order to get the maximum quality possible, and they even said the last part of the development process is to optimize things and focus on performances specifications. They even have three more months to optimize the game since it was delayed to february 2025. So no, they did not confirm the game will only run at 30fps at release. Stop spreading misinformation
This is a case of the series s. Xbox is at fault not the devs. Secondly. A single player doesnt need 60fps. I wont play until they give me a 60 fps mode. Im on pc tho so 😂
It would be great if it was 60 FPS ... And that's why it's probably best to get it on PC. But that's just what console gaming is sometimes. But hey you got people praising games like doom eternal on Switch that look like a washed out mess running at like 400 p 30 FPS ... I get that it's a portable console, but it's still a console that people play on their TV. 30 FPS isn't the end of the world for a console.
@@sneakycacti a standard isn't a guarantee... A standard is something you hope to achieve. I agree that consoles should be hitting 60, but there was no guarantee.
I'm calling it right now: this game is going to be a broken piece of shit at launch. I'm noticing the exact same pattern with Avowed as I did with Redfall, and look how well Redfall turned out
redfall is deadfall
Damn it's pretty sad that many people especially developpers still trying to convince us that 30 frames is good nowdays
No need to convince people it has been proven to work just fine for games for decades...now if some people prefer more then they prefer more.. but not every game is going to give more
That right there is the problem! decades yet no improvement in performance @de1usionsofgrandeur
@@sneakycacti all depends on how to make it.. if their set goals are 30 then itll be 30 If their set goals are 60 or more then it will be.. it's all up to how they want to do it nothing happens by accident it's all planned
@@De1usionsofGrandeur It's already been proven for a long time that stupid gullible people with low standards exist.
Huge L for the devs. Imagine being forced to settle for 30fps because the devs are too lazy to optimize their games.
Tell that to the execs who made the decision
@@racerwilson152 It's not always the execs my guy. Bad developers exist.
Black myth wukong is a 30fps game. What do ponies say about that??
@@adrazz_gaming the same thing they do about zelda they just ignore it and play and enjoy the games anyway.. but when it's an xbox game its automatically trash
@@De1usionsofGrandeur You're not ignoring the criticism and playing though, you're here getting salty about the video.
Xbox just keeps on delivering by not actually delivering lmao.
"strongest console"
"4K60FPS"
"more exclusives"
Uncle Phil really keeping his promises.
It is the strongest console that is proven fact... that does not however mean everyone is going to fully use the power of that hardware..
3:20 nah bruh even if the game is turn based 60fps should be the bare minimum. It's 2024. The avowed devs talking about visual effects being the reason behind the dogshit frame rate, and I'm like "so make a performance mode then! It's not hard!"
Aaron Greenburg - "60fps will be the standard, but we can actually go up to 120fps for the Series"
Consoles are a joke.
It’s the devs dude not the Consoles !
Yep, 60FPS should be the bare minimum. The only place I can see 30 FPS being useful is on handhelds for battery life purposes. Even then I'd rather have 60 and get a little less battery. But that's about the only real reason I can see to still go with 30FPS in 2024.
@@HaloinfiniteEternal I know. But only console gaming lets this kind of shit fly.
@@XxViciousxX Exactly. There is no good reason for 30fps in 2024.
Ignoring the frame rate (which shouldn’t be at 30. The current Xbox and PS5 should be powerful enough to consistently run at 60) I have little to no faith in Avowed because Outer Worlds kind of sucked (it’s funny just how much hype surrounded that game and how it was forgotten near instantly. People were rightfully pissed at Bethesda for Fallout 76 and Obsidian had a good track record so we were under the delusion they could deliver, despite the people who made New Vegas what it was were mostly gone. The product we got was mediocre at best and forgettable with VERY brief moments of brilliance).
I enjoyed the outer worlds a lot, but if these are the same devs then this is just embarrassing.
60 fps has literally made me less shit at games overall, leave 30 fps in the pastttttt
I laughed when I heard that as well. My eyes bleed when I play something at 30fps. There is a reason I play mostly pc these days.
30 fps would be a major L. Microsoft devs obviously will never learn. First Starfield, then Redfall now this. I remember Todd Howard giving a soliloquy about why 30 fps was better for Starfield (I believe he said it wasn't possible either), then they dropped a 60 fps patch that transformed the entire game. They pushed this game back not because of a crowded window, but to further optimize it I see.
Xbox needs to implement some quality standards.
Now come on, did you play Starfield at 30fps. If you did, why would they change your mind now if it ran at 30fps. Let them put the game together and then optimise for 60
Nothing to learn know that some people will cry over it. It is what it is.. they ll continue to make games how they want as they are the devs and it's their choice how they want to make their own game...
@@maerunderemite games looking really good.. so. They shouldn't have a game as bad as redfall ever again
@@Calm_Chaos dont think it's an optimize issue at all they flat out said their goal target was 30 fps..
Remember BG3 a turned based game made sure its 60 fps before launching.
There is no excuse to be 60 fps if you want more than 40$ for your game
Like its fine release your 30 fps game but stop demanding full price for a 3rd rate product.
60fps is not only better because it feels smoother but imo it looks a lot better. So its tied to graphics as well. It adds so much to the Aesthetic of the game.
Arts style and fps are the most important to how good a game looks
Holy shit, any first person game is totally unplayable in 30 fps, 60fps is the absolutely non negotioable minimum framerate.
You don't need 4k, you don't need ray tracing, but you absolutely need 60fps...
If they fail that, please close the damn studio and fire all the staff, I wouldn't want to see any of them work on another product for xbox ever again.
This was such an dogshit take by the developer I can't believe it.
That’s MrMattyplays?!?? Sitting on the couch?
It's running smoothly at a rough frame rate. Perfect Sense.
Wasn't it last gen that Microsoft said they were targeting 120FPS for XBox?
"60fps will be the standard" lol
@@dinar8749 60 is the standard but it doesn't mean every game will be that..standard just means what the current norm is for most games
@@De1usionsofGrandeur 60 is not the standard for xbox's games; 30 is, which is funny when they're the company who advertised the xbox series as "the world's most powerful console".
@@dinar8749 I garentree that most games on xbox are 60 or more which would make 60 the standard
@@dinar8749 and its advertised as the strongest console because it factually is... it's not like se haven't known what's inside these things for years... like if I have a high end PC but a game comes out that doesn't cause it's full capability can I not claim it's still a high end pc...
“Performance is last thing we worry about” Yeah, ok, definitely not buying the game now
They know that pretty graphics sells video games. And we know this is prioritised over higher frame rates. But they're telling us that we don't want 60 FPS over 30 FPS. How about you stop doing that and sacrifice a little bit of visual quality to hit a solid frame rate? Just a suggestion 🔥
If it doesn't drop at all 30 is a solid framerate... and has been proven to work perfectly fine in gaming.. even games like zelda still get perfect 10 review scores despite being 30 fps.... all that really matters is if the game itself is good
I'm glad that you did post I'm up for work LOL
"you don't need 60 frames per second" ok, they don't need my money.
There's no point in 30fps. We're in 2024, not 1994.
The bare minimum should be 60fps, what with the monitors and GPUs today, hell, even TVs run at 120+fps and they should actually be working to deliver 1440p to be honest.
And yeah, I'm not buying Avowed after this news. Congrats devs, it's a new way of killing your game, the other being, DEI/SBi and all that nonsense.
sometimes it takes time for me to adapt to 60 fps after playing for a while on my PC, to the point 60 fps look choppy and blurry, 30 is a slideshow tbh. I'm glad I won't have to suffer that low frame. Obsidian is probably in my top 3 devs, but they are dropping the ball hard here. Although Pillars of eternity are two of my favorite games ever, they run badly even on high end hardware due to optimization, and tbh It didn't take away the enjoyment as those games are so good. Now, obsidian being XBOX first party I expected the extra budget would work wonders on the optimization department. Still is my most expected game, I hope I can at least reach 120 fps with a trick here and there, so I don't worry myself, but I wanted console players to get a premium experience with this one, so sad...
@@glowinTHX One of the most beautiful things is getting mods for Quake, Hexen and Brutal DOOM 64 and running them on 120+ fps.
Not to mention all of the remasters that Deep Dive is putting out on Steam like Blood, Powerslave and also run them on high fps.
It's a fluid glory.
It baffles me seeing new first person games (I'm looking at you Bethesda) coming out and your character having no body or a casting shadow when mods can make your character on DOOM 2 or Quake cast shadows and have real time lighting, not to mention making a game locked at 30fps...
Its sad.
@@COLT_Chris it baffles me how they can't manage to give you unlocked frame rate mlde, capped 30 fps, dynamic resolution and other modes. People have different screens but they don't seem to care about the backlash, it gives the impression they're just lazy. I will check those shooters with mods btw, cool suggestions. thanks.
Seriously, we don't want to play games at 30 fps anymore. Include a performance mode. I started Wukong last night and didn't even think -- I immediately selected performance mode.
This is why i play most of my games on pc. I can't stand 30fps after playing at 60+
Same brother. I got a gaming pc this year because consoles are worthless. They're always going to be -30fps slide shows.
Aww you poor baby
Yep PC is a win you don't have to choose between good graphics and decent FPS you can have both.
@@mihaimercenarul7467 Babies accept whatever you give them, just like console fanboys.
@@dinar8749 awww you are so cute when you try to sound smart awwww
60fps is important, even in turn based games as it makes navigating menus feel significantly better, to say you don't need it in a first person game is actually moronic
Remember when one of the big selling points of this console generation was supposed to be games running at 120 fps? Or at least 60 fps in performance mode?
I predicted this would happen. All the backwards compatible games would be 60 fps and it'd be great. Then the new gen games would start coming out and it'd be back to 30 fps. Sadly, I don't see this ever changing because you can advertise a game with pretty screenshots, but you can't really do the same with high frame rates.
its very likely true that the console CAN handle 120 fps. its just that the games graphics are considered higher priority than performance and gameplay.
so you end up with a lower frame rate as a result.
unless there is proof that the console having games run at 120 fps is just an outright lie and could never be done.
I mean.... Come on, guys! it's a shitty first-person shooter with bland colorless graphics that also requires no skill or coordination in any form! What purpose would 60 fps even serve to this kind of generic slop?
I refuse to by a game at 70 dollars if it is not 60fps plain and simple, you want to charge me more I expect more.
For reference, Sekiro: Shadows die twice Is capped at (cant go higher than) 60fps on both console and pc I believe, And SOME people would consider 60fps to be somewhere between too low - Average, Which to me is pretty average in all honesty, I mean sekiro runs perfectly fine, Nice and smooth, These people want half of the average 💀
Edit: also sekiro is completely single player unless your on pc then there are some mods that can make it have multiplayer.
Im 100٪ sure there's a way to unlock sekiro's framerate on pc, with a mod i believe
@@Urine666Deity ah I was told it was perm capped at 60 and couldn't go any higher at all no matter what.
Third-person 30fps is tolerable. But a 30fps for FPS game. That's literally unplayable.
So right away, we already know nobody's gonna be buying Avowed.
I understand why a toaster like the Switch has to run some things at 30, but this is a fucking Xbox.
The Xbox is literally a semi-PC, it's fully capable of running 60.
Graphics will never matter as much as performance.
Worlds “most powerful console”😂😂😂
Phil milking his 🐄😂😂
Everything I learned about avowed since the first trailer has worried me
How to destroy your reputation and game sales 101
By offering a great looking new game... dont really understand this one.. if 30 fps killed game sales I wonder why multiple game of the years that were 30 fps didnt seem to have any issue at all
@@De1usionsofGrandeur by not understanding their fans and thinking they know better what those possible future players want.
Also tell me which games cause i can only think of Baldurs Gate 3 (which has a problem with FPS especially in 3rd act but it's a very big game) and Alan Wake 2 which has 60fps mode (which is impressive tbh)
@@heronik79 for now they think gamers want a great new game in that universe and that's exactly what they plan on giving them.. and a lot of myself myself included cant wait to play it.. its definitely what I been looking for
@@De1usionsofGrandeur they can do a great new game that also works in decent fps that we were promised to have as a standard years ago but it's not. The game won't suffer from 60fps, actually the opposite
@@heronik79 it is the standard still doesn't mean every game will be that.. standard just means what generally most things are...
Bruh, i prefer to have minecraft like graphics with atleast 60fps.
Damn I was actually so interested in this Avowed. More proof that modern gaming is so shit.
I havent slept yet either am i cooked
Typical of a Xbox game running at 30fps.
Starfield, redfall, now avowed.
@@dinar8749 dont forget about hellblade 2
Stalker 2 60 fps
At least halo infinite runs at 120 fps
Hell blade 2 also but why these games?
I knew this game was cooked at trailer 2. I wish they would have made the game that was showcased in trailer 1.
Series x is a 30 fps beast😂😂😂😂. Fuck this trash game. You dont need 60 fps means you dont need my money.
indie dev here and long time gamer. devs that say focus on ghraps are caping. you straight up can bearly push them all your really doing is trading fps for resolution . and say they do push the ghrapics well know they gota lower the res as well. so the ghrapics will look wack. Also no ,performance is the first thing you should focus on next to bugs.
I feel the comment section 100%. But make no mistake Gta VI will be running at 40 fps tops...
The only game i prefer visuals over frames are story games where you dont need precise movement like spiderman 2 otherwise i would alway choose frames
We meet again sergeant
Me too.
Makes sense to have amazing graphics when you're going to be staring at them for most of the game.
You should never have to settle for 30fps for a 2024 game.
@dinar8749 yeah I know but if I have to choose between them on a game like spiderman 2 I would rather have graphics and if it was a game where I need fast reaction I would rather have fps
@@kellylayton9300 so we do
So, this is obsidian nowadays? they've really let themselves go.
How so game looks pretty good to me but I wont ultimately know till I play it. I dont think the game will be bad
@@De1usionsofGrandeur I dunno about you, but I'm really not a fan of 30FPS during gameplay, it's even worse when they've set that kind of FPS as their focus.
@@TheBerserkerXeno for I dont really care I let them make the game and it's either a good game or its not... I don't care what frames they run 30 or more.. although vr games need to be a minimum of 90 to not make you sick
@@De1usionsofGrandeur Ok? You claim to not care, yet were you expecting others to have your pov? I want FPS fitting for current gen, not Nintendo Switch fps focus.
@@TheBerserkerXeno I am not forcing anyone to have my view I just tell them that they are wrong when they say that 30 fps isnt playable that is factually wrong... but they can prefer to play however they want.. I just find it funny when I see people claim a games going to flop just cause it's not made their way
When did they take out 3rd person? They showed a demo at Xbox game show with 3rd person
These people still think games should run like they were in the early 2000,s.
this game will be so cinematic
Locking the game at 30 fps didn't work for redfall. What makes them think it will work for avowed?
They probably skyrim'd it and fucked everything by tying events to the framerate instead of a proper tick system, and likely had it capped at 30 during development
It’s the worst thing ever that devs keep trying to deny that 60 FPS is the standard.
Yeah primary reason I don’t do consoles. I’ll always be able to toggle enough settings to get close to my target framerate
So for an action shooter Rpg (starfield), 60fps isn't needed
Now, for a fantasy rpg, you don't need 60fps as well
When tf does xbox think 'you need' 60fps? 😂
The fanboys that gobble this shit up are completely scuffed
That's just... wow, dude. Wow.
I didnt even know this game existed until this video
My disappointment is immeasurable & my day is ruined. Akshually , this Xbox Series consoles being de facto beta testers for inevitable ports. Its kinda expected that msft studios’ games have a crappy launch on Series. Nice video btw 👍
So it's 30fps in 1080p? Which year is it now?
Man has obsidian fallen from grace after this one. Not even gonna bother to check this out with game pass if they're too lazy to optimize
The only system that is allowed to have 30 frames is the switch
There’s literally only one game that gets away with being in 30 frames and that’s BloodBorne, and even then I’d kill for a 60 fps remaster 😢
Clearly they didn't learn from Bethesdas 30fps folly with starfield.
Everyone would rather trade visuals for fps.
Pretty visuals usually mean lacking content.
A highly polished turd.
This is bad news. 😢
consoles must be able to hold either 120, 60 or 30 fps, because most TVs in the households still don't have VRR. a stable 30 fps IS better than a than constantly switching between 60 and 30 fps. However it's still disappointing. 60 fps should be standard, but I think people should understand, what the dev means and why he formulates things the way he did.
30 fps doesnt compliment modern hyper-realistic games well
You know what's scary? That the optimization in their games is so bad that I get better performance with Black Myth: Wukong running with Cinematic settings (maxed out) and Ray Tracing on Ultra than in some of the city places in Pillars Of Eternity.
Not saying PoE is harder to run than that game. It's just that in my case, because I have a good GPU, and the game has really poor CPU usage optimization (not that uses a lot. More like it doesn't use what you have correctly), the GPU I have is irrelevant because it's limited by the poor optimization of the game, so, sure, it's easier to run, but if you have a good PC it will run worst than many other titles, and because of this, I'm worried Avowed will have the same issues as Starfield.
I'll never care about this stuff Bloodborne is a 30fps masterpiece
I'll give them the benefit of the doubt considering avowed has been in production way before Microsoft acquired them in which they wasn't that big nor funded.
I agree with the graphics though never cared for prettiness
Exactly the same thoughts I had. These kids are spoiled.
Well, that sucks, was REALLY looking foward to it. Unless 30fps is xbox only, not PC. If the video said that, my bad I missed it. Regardless, wtf.
I will play it but i DON'T understand Why Always 30 fps and not 60
I honestly am fine with 30 fps, yes it could be better but there isn't much of a point to care.
60fps should be the standard on Series X and S. Pure laziness tbh
I rather take a game that maxes out the PS4 in terms of graphics then uses the extra performance of the PS5 to get min 60fps and as high resolution as possible. Unreal5 dosent even look that much better than Unreal3 and the newer consoles cant even handel Unreal5 . Just look at Arkham Knight on PS4. That uses Unreal Engine 3 and still holds up today.
In what situation are you gonna be driving 300MPH?
I mean I don't disagree with you, but it just seems like an odd comparison.
Don't need 60fps, 30fps is good, getting 60 from your company console is a gift from them, or maybe they're 1/2 @ssing it.
that is not at all how you pronounce foliage. (the OP spelled it wrong too fwiw)
Imagine buying a 500 dollar console just to be told you don't need 60 frames lmao
you got promesd 60 fps and then we got 30 fps though i think there should be a way to switch to a more performance methood option to make it 60 fps i mean it can look nice for the screen shots but we need that performance option for 60 fps
PC. Nuff said, save your money and build your own PC a trained gibbon can assemble a custom PC those claiming it’s too expensive are talking out of their ass 😂
hmmm... how long until a 60 fps Patch will be dropped? 😉
Wth are all of Microsoft single player games still pushing 30fps targets?
Now my theory, and I can't prove it but it's my hypothesis, is that he has something to gain by making it 30, maybe it'll make him more money, maybe he thinks it will, or maybe it'll just save him a lot of work and he's being lazy
Either way he's pretending to be dumber than he is and making up excuses so that he'll be able to launch the game at 30
Seriously? 30fps? We aren't living in 2007 anymore. What is this?
Look, not to sound like a fanboy, but I honestly don't care about fps, I mean, I still played pmttyd despite the 30fps, besides the gameplay is good, it looks amazing, and the soundtrack is amazing!
Black myth wukong is a 30fps game. What do ponies say about that??
they claim its 60 despite the fact that its 30fps frame gen
This is why I hate the bumping debate of games' frame rates! I've been gaming since the mid to late 90's, so I believed that the gameplay matters more than the frame rate!
and having 60fps over 30 does improve the gameplay massively but no devs say that to improve vfx
"XD's...I didn't know people still did that". Coming from the guy who can't read the most basic of memes properly xD
avowed without adding TSR that game will be broken launch
Don't worry, it coming in gamepass, all is good...all is good right?
30fps in 2024 is CRAZZYYY
Not really... They said the main development pipeline focused on the 30fps mode on Xbox Series in order to get the maximum quality possible, and they even said the last part of the development process is to optimize things and focus on performances specifications. They even have three more months to optimize the game since it was delayed to february 2025.
So no, they did not confirm the game will only run at 30fps at release.
Stop spreading misinformation
you can't tell the difference above 30
@@lordcarve I’m a superhuman, I can tell the difference between 100 and 120
Oh dang another game to not play. Oh alright.
⚫_⚫ yippee
This is a case of the series s. Xbox is at fault not the devs. Secondly. A single player doesnt need 60fps. I wont play until they give me a 60 fps mode. Im on pc tho so 😂
Um….Avowed is not a graphically intensive game.
This just became a game I won't even bother to play. Quit being cheap and lazy
I've never needed it. In fact on console it's normal.
First person games are better at 60FPS. Regardless if it's singleplayer or multiplayer. End of story.
Using Todd's excuse. Lol
Also the graphics in avowed are average at best
This game sounds doa
It's because of the fkn series S man.
"Made with unreal 5" or should you say Wokebite 5 Engine?
That’s crazy 🤣😅😂
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It would be great if it was 60 FPS ... And that's why it's probably best to get it on PC. But that's just what console gaming is sometimes. But hey you got people praising games like doom eternal on Switch that look like a washed out mess running at like 400 p 30 FPS ... I get that it's a portable console, but it's still a console that people play on their TV. 30 FPS isn't the end of the world for a console.
we had games at 60fps on the xbox 360 that looked great. also if you promise something people pay for, you must deliver
Nobody ever promised you 60 fps...
@aarongreenberg on twitter
60fps will be the standard output, but the architecture allows us to support up to 120fps.
8:50AM may 7, 2020
@@sneakycacti a standard isn't a guarantee... A standard is something you hope to achieve. I agree that consoles should be hitting 60, but there was no guarantee.