@spacelion4763 That's a real commitment, lol. I respect it . Sometimes my laziness wins, and I'll buy something on a sale, etc, digitally. Definitely will be doing it more so now
@@mackcity74gdn89and you need to subscribe to plus or xbox online to play multiplayer, I miss ps3 no plus subscription just a physical disc game and internet connection and you are set
I own 3000 discs dvd's/music cds'/blu rays/games. I have music cd's that I purchased in 1992 that still work. I have an entire room in my house devoted to physical media. I rarely buy anything digital. I don't even sub to netflix.
Love your mentality. Smart man. It amazes me how these lames youtubers come up with all kinds of excuses on why they think digital games are better. Those same guys cry and complain when the sony and MS servers shut down lol. This guy says there's a lot of games that's not on disc. Most games are.
Yeah i think subscriptions suck there is a lot of movies and TV shows becoming lost media due to them being removed like how max took away their originals that you can't stream legally anywhere
I'm not advocating for it, but I understand it more. Piracy often has very little to do with the money and more about the barrier to entry. People who were going to pirate your game will do it regardless. But when you make the only way to get the game in a region by pirating it due to region locked or Nintendo having no respect for preserving their older titles, then like I said before I do understand why people do it.
@@ApolloT-vp5dna lot is and if more ppl buy games there they have more space to bring new games in. There is a wishlist and they try to bring games from that to gog
Just people not trying to admit their mistake. I did made that mistake but wont continue making it. Will never buy from steam again. Only GOG if they give me an offline installer.
@histhoryk2648 I think that's just because steam is such a user-friendly platform as far as ease of use and the amount of titles vs GOG. But I'll be looking to GOG now when I can
It's hilarious seeing people NOW realize that you technically don't fully own digital games. This has been the case since the Xbox 360 and ps3 days. The only difference is now they've dumbed down the terminology in the terms of service nobody ever read. 😂
Yeah, we stopped buying consoles at XB1 because it was clear we weren't going to be able to buy discs for much longer, and most of the ones we got required day-1 patches or an online connection even for single-player games. I'm very much over new games. My wife and I gave in and tried our very first fully digital game in Diablo 4 last year and loved it at launch as a couch-coop couple, but now they've patched it to the point we hate it for casual play. They changed all the gearing systems and now you can't do much until after level 50, making it terrible for casual seasonal players who barely make it to level 50 in a season (due to time constraints in real life) if they do make it at all. We don't have any live services, so we can't talk to or group with these randos on the map. We just wanted a fun game for offline co-op play. That's not what this was, and we will not be playing it again. We deleted it and walked away this past spring. We feel we got our money's worth with the base game and those first three seasons, so no harm, no foul, but we aren't giving them any more money. D3 is still king in our household. Starfield definitely needed some of the quality of life fixes that came in the January and then June patches, like desperately, but the new vehicle thing, I hate it. I never wanted it, and I won't use it. But there it is, gigabytes taking up extremely limited space on my hard drive. I should be able to opt in/out of every patch that is offered if it's a single-player game. How I play has zero impact on how anyone else plays. I should not be required to access the internet to play a solo game. I should be able to drag the console out to an off-grid cabin in the woods and play my game direct from disc on day 1. Anything less than that is unacceptable and I will not be purchasing any future games or current games that do not let me do that. They're selling unfinished games and we need to teach them that's not okay.
Maybe I'm just lucky, but as a switch player, I've yet to buy and play a game that is fully single player, and locked to online. I keep seeing people say it's happening with every single game, but on switch it ain't happening.
@@camharkness it definitely is for releases that Switch doesn't get. Last I checked they weren't getting things like Starfield, God of War, or Star Wars Outlaws. A quick Google search shows that Assassin's Creed Valhalla is available on Switch and *DOES* require being online to play. So yes, it is happening, just not on kids games and platformers. Yet.
The thing is that physical copies are not so much different from digital nowadays... most if not all of them are either incomplete installers or just have the key code to download it.
@Genojo they can actually fix game breaking bugs these days. Idk what the big deal is. All we need are external hard drives or ssd drives. 🤷♂️ It's literally what NASA does. 😅
@@glimmergrun4164 from wikipedia: In 2016, Auken published an essay originally titled "Welcome to 2030. I own nothing, have no privacy, and life has never been better", later retitled "Here's how life could change in my city by the year 2030", on the WEF's official web site.
@@glimmergrun4164 I commented with more info, but my comment isn't showing up. It was titled "Welcome to 2030. I own nothing, have no privacy, and life has never been better".
Case is 20 years old. But people weren't listening about it back then. "But it's more convenient!" Yeah. Especially if the corpo goes bankrupt and shud down its servers, or your HDD goes dead. Digital = non-existent.
Exactly my point when I said why I didn't want to try Steam, I only have it for small independent developers who don't edit discs, but anyways I mostly have free games, or free because 100% price reduction on sales, so if Steam goes crash, I wouldn't lose that much of value.
@@codered1132 Absolutely true. That's the biggest argument you could have despite their bad pratices and the real contenders who are, to this day, Epic, Humble Bundle and GOG. But you never know for sure. I tend to lean more towards buying on GOG for this matter since there is no DRM. Well for what I buy it's just enough but I can understand why heavy buyers wouldn't care that much.
Biggest mistakes I made was to sell all my PS4 discs games to replace them by digital purchases as it was much easier to manage during my travels. Lesson learned. Digital games are licences to play. It's renting and not owning. Now I stay with physical.
🙂 i have a ps2 down in Nicaragua, as for games the stores down there have them on laptops, you tell them what games you want and they will give it you on a usb jump drive
@@Ragepatty could always be a filthy pirate 🏴☠️ if they take your games nothing’s stopping you from getting them back through the back door lol, always made me feel better
@Seveinis its only "serious" now because people who can't read are finding out through youtubers what people who read the terms of service have known for almost 20 years. 😂
@Greazvstheworld I was naive af to a lot of the bigger situation and am only these last couple weeks coming to terms with my stupidity. Luckily, it's not too late to start backing everything up and make smarter choices moving forward
I remember way back in 2006 or thereabouts I created my Steam account because you had to register to play Half Life 2. Literally as I did it I had this gut feeling it would not end up in a good place. I remember a lot of people complaining on forums about it.
@goodlookinouthomie1757 I was late to the party with steam and never had an account until like 2010 or maybe even a little later! I was buying physical for the longest time. I think i purchased and lost and repurchased Starcraft 2 box set like 3 times, lol
As a millennial, I witnessed physical and digital games. It breaks my heart to see modern physical games. Requiring internet or a stupid online account for EA or something. I am already starting to buy PS3 and early consoles to avoid this abuse. If it’s physical then I should be able to sell/trade or own the game for that specific disk/cartridge.
🙂 nah, i dont care for console versions, they dont have accessibilty options to bypass sections that are very difficult, to me its not worth it if your going to tell me either Git Gud or just dont bother playing then. I dont think thats cool or fair.
6:45 it’s funny you bring up Cars and subscriptions for features installed in the car. They are doing that now; watch a Louis Rossman video on it. Also, physical can also be removed, look at the crew. DRM free is what we need and we need to support stop killing games and movements like that. Also, GOG exists and I’m starting to buy things there
I remember buying a game on Steam back in 2016, and I played it for a couple hours, uninstalled it, and moved it to something else. I came back to wanting to play it in 2022, and when I went to the game, the page simply said the gamr was no longer available and was removed from the store. Couldn't find it anywhere. It was then I came to the realization that the 260+ games I bought could all end up falling under the same problem. So I bought consoles, and decided to collect physical games, brand new, still factory sealed so I can maximize the life out of my physical media, especially for when I kids get older, so they have them going through their childhood without fear of it randomly disappearing some day. (I also own physical books and movies. I don't have anything digitally after this happening because it was just a slap in the face at the time.)
🙂 i try to backup all my digital games to my local 3.5 Hard Drives, and yes for the same reason the backups are for my Son and really the rest of the family if they like video games. I have consoles and some physical discs but i dont care for games on consoles because there is no accessibilty options, no trainers, no God Mode, no Mods, most games are ridiculous and were never meant to be played by casualers. Thats why I pretty much skipped video games most of my lifetime cause its bogus, i dont see any fun dieing over and over again and theres no way to bypass difficult sections? But thanks to PC alot of the games are no accessible to me when before it was not.
This is why I'm moving to gog. Fun fact, you have the right to make and own a back up copy of anything digital. As long as you don't override any security.
I love GOG to death and have supported them for years, but it's so unfortunate that they don't even have a third of the selection that Steam has. This is my biggest issue with GOG. If publishers chose GOG the way the choose Steam, I'd buy 100% of my games from GOG. Unfortunately DRM free games is not something that interests most publishers. It downright scares them away due to piracy and lack of control.
People like me never switched to digital only because i knew exactly what was in the licence agreement. I used to warn people, and they'd mock and ridicule. Now that people are realising the issues with digital, it's already too late on PC. People should have listened and bought physical.
Just wait until companies start cancelling licenses after a while, which they are within their rights to do. E.g. you "buy" a game, and 4 years later they remove it from your library and force you to buy it again at full price. Then people will start crying about it even though it's too late.
Bought physical on PC, where??? Best solution is to 🏴☠️ games and to keep them with mods and patches in HDDs and SSDs. Don't know any madman that keeps 60Gb+ games on discs. I don't see the appeal of the physical argument. Games are data. Storage solutions are already physical anyways.
Buying is a legal team meaning you own it. if a company takes it away regardless of how long you have owned it, if it's taken away from the buyer it's classified as theft so the company has no choice, but to give you your money back. just keep in mind to always keep your receipts as proof.
I am an older gamer and have been screaming this since Steam and downloadable games came onto the scene -- if you don't own physical media, you own nothing. But the reply I heard so often was "... but downloading games is so convenient." Well, convenience is the con. Is online banking convenient? Yes. Is it safer than going to the bank? No. The internet has made many things convenient, but in the end it's an illusion of safety and ownership. And that doesn't mean that buying physical is always foolproof. Why? Because the PS5 makes you connect via internet the first time you boot a game from a physical disc! No, gamers need to demand ownership and refuse anything but 100% ownership of their media. Maybe that means going back to earlier consoles and using GOG (on PC) over Steam? But it's time we demand all that money on digital games wasn't simply stolen... or... make certain we don't waste more money on things we don't own.
sure but console disc or cartridges are useless to me, who wants to be playing Super Mario Bros without an Accessibility Mode? i dont, i never really cared for it because they dont include Accessibilty Options for Casualers? there is no God Mode, No Trainers, No Cheats, No Mods. Either you Git Gud or your basically SOL. So thats why I never really bothered. I might be in the minority I guess cause I never heard anyone complain about it beside myself. So yeah to me the console stuff is useless. As far as pc you have drm free versions and u can set Sail as well, so you gotta do both, then all you have to do is invest in Server Hard Drives and download everything locally and keep it updated and backed up regularly just like any company out there does. To me thats worth it that way. But i might be in the minority. Do whatever works for you i guess.
Glad to hear someone telling the truth about this... And the people who defend this from companies are a major part of the problem... This is why I stick with retro gaming...
The size of modern games is another problem that I wish more people would do videos on. Some games now are almost as big as the entire SSD space that the Xbox Series S ships with. How has this happened? Sony and Microsoft need to start implementing size limits for video games on consoles, because the size of games has gotten completely out of hand.
@cobalt-snake6125 The fact i have to uninstall a game that I paid for that may not be there when I want to reinstall it is the crazy part. Even if you wanted to show your kids years from now in the future and you go to download something you bought and that server is closed, and now your game is deleted and gone. I can fit half a dozen games on my PS5 if I'm lucky
When google closed Google music they went into my phone and deleted about 2000 songs that I had paid for. I only buy games on sale now, under £20 and mainly play my backlog a d try to keep my money in the bank. Digital is theft .
@RangerZero47 nintendo always start a new store every machine., switch store might last near the end of the switch 2 as it is popular, but it WILL go away.
You have made the perfect everyday gamers genuine argument. Brilliant honest video. I am right with you on this subject because I noticed this issue After I purchased my last game very recently. The companies don't tell you until you've purchased the game. There is only 1 action from every gamer. Do not buy anymore digital games, movies or music. Only purchase the hard copies.
Boycott the companies that shove these policies. It would also make a difference if there is no physical case in stored with download codes that's up to retailers who support physical media.
The real danger of going digital only is that it will eliminate the 2nd hand game market and will give them a monopoly on their digital store fronts. Imagine if the Switch 2 was digital only, that would mean that Nintendo now has a monopoly on their digital store shop and since you are forced to buy from there online store with no option to buy used, Nintendo can charge whatever they want..
@@russellmania5349 Look at the overpriced games on the PSN...you have to wait a looong time before getting sales...that are still more pricey that 2nd hand games. Plus what will happen once they cut the internet?
@@Ragepatty It does not matter much with Nintendo, and their "evergreen" ideology on their games. Most ppl know that their Nintendo games keep their value. So at most you can expect a 10$ discount, over a new copy. At that point I would just buy a new game. Tho their 3rd party releases are not better. You can still find very old games like Doom 2016, costing 50$-60$. For the Switch ofc. Same with other similar games. So digital or physical, you are still paying for the "privilege" of playing on their underpowered device. For other consoles it's very true. The less physical release you have on consoles like PS5/XBOX, the more they can charge you on their digital stores. PS4 had amazing deals on PSN store when I was still playing on it. A new release could be out, and in 5-6 months you could already see a 30% discount on it, and up to 40%-50% on the used market. It all changed with the release of PS5. Now even a year after release, a 1st party game can still only be as low as 20%-30% off. And that's on huge sales, not some random deal of the week. So yea, since the consoles now costs way more than what they used to. Not even going down in price after 3-4 years(they are actually more expensive, lol). Same with the games, and the discounts on them. I have just moved on to PC gaming fully. You can't beat the deals on Steam, or the lower prices on new games on CD-Key sites. The official ones ofc. Not to mention PC can do more than just game. So if you have the option, it's better to just save some more, and buy a mid-range PC. Even more so now, when they want you to pay 800$(EU) for a PRO version. That comes without a disc drive, and has a SSD that combined with the motherboard of the console. So you can't ever remove it, and get a new one. So in essence, you are just buying a ticking time bomb. Where you can never replace the clock.
@asahira7834 Some of these comments are more well done than my entire video. What a cool community, lol. You make good points. I agree Steam is too good to pass up, but I will have to start backing up any of my games I'm able to do so with. For me, my expensive pc is in my office, so the convenience of playing on my ps5 in my living room sometimes makes me get games on there I would of preferred or been better off buying on steam.. Nintendo has the most consistent well made first party releases of any of the big 3, imo as far as releasing completed, working games on release day. They know this too, which is another reason their content is the same price on year 5 as it was on release.
I never stopped buying physical versions of everything I collect (video games, music, movies, books) because YEARS ago, South Park used to be completely free to watch online but then they kept moving it to different paid websites. That made me so mad (I was a kid then, lol) that I saved up and bought the DVDs. From then, I applied that to everything. The only time I buy digital is when there is a STEEP discount on a mid game. Or a second copy digitally.
That's why I heavily got into buying physical stuff again the past 6 months... I have about 300 games (PS1 - PS4, PC, Gameboy & SNES), 200+ music CDs and maybe the same amount of movies. I also love to have great cover art and a booklet to read the lyrics of music CDs and manuals for games. Not only what's on the disc is art - the whole package is and the "wrapping" sometimes adds the little extra, at least for me!
I’ve seen people go through so many hoops just to buy a mid or bad product, not owning it or owing it for a limited time is a new low. This mentality of “owning and being happy” does not make sense to me
I saw this coming long ago. That's the reason why I insist on buying a physical copy of a game. Not just games though. Books, movies, and music. The only way to push back is to not spend your money on what you don't feel is warranted. We have to stop pandering to these companies as if we don't have a choice.
When I was a boy, I used to ask for video games for Christmas and birthday. Still, at age 44, I ask for video games on holiday wish lists. I guess some things never change.
I've barely started collecting a small amount of games, 20, and I always loved physical media. All that extra stuff with game maps or manuals, aww I love that stuff man.
"Don't drop money on digital Don't be a sucker ." people who will Pre Order GTA VI: "You hear sum?" people who will pre Order The ELder Scrolls 6: "Nah." people who will pre Order RDR 3: "nope." people who will pre Order [insert any other overhyped AAA Game]: "Physical is so old school. Digital is the Future of Game Preservation." People who are mostly on Steam, Origin, Uplay, Battlenet, etc...:"We literally have no other option than Digital because our former Gen was too brainwashed and stupid, bought Half - Life 2 despite kickstarting the end of the Golden Age of PC Gaming, Onwership, Freedom, used Games Market, Physical Media and LAN Mode, due to "our Lord and Savior" Gaben implemented Online Activation, then a digital Storefront, then Always on DRM (STEAM) and then Gambling (TF2 hats/ CS Skins). Yep, we are to blame."
True story: The day I got my steam account hacked/ the day I got scammed I almost lost everything including my games. I've wasted over 4,500 bucks but I managed to get that money back, However I've realized steam is also not trustworthy as well when it comes to digital games. I'm not saying Steam is awful Don't get me wrong, They are always Superior when it comes to PC gaming. However nowadays, I'm pretty sure you've heard of the "I accidentally reported you scam" situation. Sadly not everyone knows about it and almost a bunch of people get their accounts lost or hacked into. Once your Steam account gets hacked all of your games will be gone as well, That event made me appreciate physical games a whole lot more.
And people wonder why I don't jump through hoops to get new games on new consoles. I tell my friends that the last thing I want to do when I get home from work is wait for a massive update to be downloaded before I can play my game. And this adds to more reason why I stick with my older consoles. One smart thing that I did in hindsight was to buy PS2 games back when they were dirt cheap. Not for resale value, but because the PS2 had a HUGE library, and I wouldn't have the desire to get another console. In hindsight, with all the politics of digital media and "ownership", it turned out to be the smartest move, especially with people hyping up old PS2 classics now.
Only multiplayer games are unplayable without update. If it’s single player, You can get home from work and freely play that game while update is downloading and after you finish playing, start instaling update. Easy. But man… I miss PS1 and PS2 era of gaming. No instaling games, no hard drives and ssds. If you have 1000 games at home, you have 1000 games playable asap 24/7
It's impossible to stop now. The only way that It could be stopped is if the vast and overwhelming majority of people that buy video games simply refused to buy any digital media collectively and stuck by it. With the clearly stated goal of guaranteed ownership and that physical copies of games function regardless of your online status and are more than just an access key, which today is all they really are. It will never happen. Most people are already too used to the convenience of digital media. This should have been a larger topic of discussion years ago when everyone noticed that even though physical distribution was going down, the cost of games continued to rise or remain the same. Plus, they were not even kind enough to do what the blu rays were doing before and giving you a digital download code when you bought your physical copy of a movie. This is something that we have all contributed to. I do occasionally buy physical games still, but my nearest legitimate game store is 50 miles away and oftentimes, when I do go there, they do not have what I am looking for anyway. So even if you are hell bent on buying your games physically, you usually will have to order them online anyway which leaves you waiting. And after you are done waiting, you have to wait even longer for installation and updates. Depending on where you live and how your internet is, this can be a significant amount of time. I don't know what the realistic solution is, all I do know is that anything less than a massive boycott in which everyone participates, that is so destructive to the industry that it simply cannot be ignored, feels like it would be worthless. And it's not just entertainment media that wishes to remove the idea of ownership from the greater public consciousness, but the government and the globalist psychopaths that control it do as well. When these demons say "you will own nothing and be happy" they mean it. Well, not the being happy part. They could not care less about that.
I’ve been aware of this for a decade, as a child because I played ios games so unknown that I’ve lost things I paid money for and I can’t even pirate them because they’re lost media that no one cares about
@Ragepatty Yes, I collected PS2, PS3, PS4 physical but fell off near the end of the PS4 into the PS5 with digital. I will revert back to my old ways 😉👍 Much Love and Great Video Bro! 😎👊💥👊😎
It's not only that; Even if you have a physical copy of a game, it may not install on a pc simply because the OS is a newer version and doesn't 'like' the files on the disc
Im going retro. Been buying ps1-3 games and enjoying them. Same with bluray and dvd at thrift stores. Decades of entertainment i never experienced so its new to me.
It is amazing to hear you make such a positive spin on the situation! Honestly, most of my greatest gaming experiences have all come from games made more than a decade ago!
@@Ragepatty Retro is cool, because you also get manuals. First the axed the manuals, then they axed the discs, now they the axe any kind of ownership.
I am 46 currently. i was born at the beginning of the arcade age. now i am at the death of the video game because of game companies ruining everything with DEI and wokeness, and now, just telling us "you will own nothing and like it"
6:23 Yeah i get the feeling that Ferrari might jump on that idea. I mean those guys can literally sue you for customizing the car you bought from them.
Yeah, I was just about to comment about this. That's *technically* how Tesla works as well. They can turn features on and off remotely, so they'd be able to just shut off your car as well.
well put, I'd also add that in most cases with new AAA titles, they get released unfinished so we basically rent an unfinished product at full price. what a time to be alive.
I do the exact same. I use a 2280 4tb nvme in an external enclosure. It's strictly dedicated for that alone. I know the peace of mind. Well worth the $250.
I want to do this also. I really want to preserve what little I have left on physical disc or cartridge. A tutorial from you would be great on how to get started
@iReturnV1deotapes point us in the right direction so that anybody else reading this can know where to start. I guess figuring out which games are drm free and then creating digital backups would be step 1.
I learned this lesson years ago, but with netflix. I always knew that I didn't own anything that's available for streaming on the platform, but what really pissed me off was finding out that a favorite movie, that was once on rhe platform, was no longer available. That really upset me, and put my on the path of physical media. You can't remove a movie/show, if I own the physical. Had numerous friends laugh at me for purchasing movies/games off of ebay 3-4 years ago. Now everybody is starting to realize what's really going on.
They can even dictate how you use those games. I'm not sure if this is still a thing (I think it is) but remember when Capcom implemented technology into RE2 remake and their other games so that they can detect if the software was modified? They did this in an attempt to stop people from applying nudity mods, fearing that those mods would be seen as negative exposure to their IP's. You bought it at full price, yet they're telling you how you can or can't use it. The biggest hypocrisy to this is Capcom constantly sexualizes so many of their Street Fighter characters, which would naturally make you want to see them naked, but then when you try to, they block you. Makes a lot of sense.
@@brianwt1 I can understand it in a MP game like Street Fighter (even though I used that game for my example) but there's zero reason why I shouldn't be able to mod Claire Redfield or those vampire girls in RE8 fully nude if I wanted to do so. Controlling single player games is a huge over reach by Capcom, but that goes to show that any of these companies can do whatever they want in those EULA agreements.
I'm really considering going back to buying physical copies of games. I used to buy physical games all the time until the pandemic happened and we all went into quarantine and then I switched over to digital. But at the time I wasn't fully aware that you didn't actually own the digital games you were buying and that the PlayStation Store can pretty much take it away whenever they wanted to, but I did find it more convenient, especially when the PlayStation Store would tell you when games were on sale.
It's ironic and sad in a way how piracy is becoming the sole way to actually "own" something, because, well, at least you can't lose access to something on your hardware that doesn't require verification unless said hardware breaks.
Thing is, nowadays, physical media isn't what it was either. It used to be you bought a disc and your whole game was in it. Then it became buying a disc and the whole game is in it but part of it is locked away because they want you to pay for that content separately. Then it became buying a disc and the game is barely even in it, you still have to download 40gb before you get to play, so they just sold you a download link in a disc.
There are actually more modern physical games that are complete on disc than most people realize, it's just that they are often overshadowed by the often-broken AAA landscape which is the most deeply affected by incomplete or simply broken disc-based games. Pretty much all Microsoft 1st party disc releases, a small number of Sony exclusives, some Switch compilations and many AAA 3rd party releases from Ubisoft, EA, Bethesda and Activision have been incomplete this generation. On the Microsoft side, Flight Simulator cannot be played or installed offline due to it needing live cloud streaming for its in-game assets, Halo Infinite only has the multiplayer component on the disc with the campaign needing to be downloaded from the web (which is a sin to us old-school Halo fans) and Forza Horizon 5 plus Starfield only has half the data on disc making the whole game unplayable until you download the rest of it. To a lesser extent, Dead Rising 3 from last gen consoles cannot be played on a Series X without a download but will play just fine by itself on any Xbox One. As far as I know, the only Sony exclusive physicals that cannot be played or downloaded offline is Gran Turismo 7 and Concord (for anyone that actually DOES still own a copy of that abomination). However, both of these are online only titles so it should be obvious or even a moot point to single those games out. The PS4 and even the PS5 have been generally physical friendly in the exclusives department, but it is still possible for that to change sooner than later so always keep your eyes peeled. This doesn't include possible patches, but usually patches aren't always needed as much as people think. There are exceptions of course like the recently released Slave Zero X or Calisto Protocol which both have buggy and messy disc builds to the point of being nearly unplayable, but that doesn't always happen. The Switch is plagued with physical titles that require downloads from 3rd party releases although its mostly via compilations, titles that are too big to fit on a Switch cartridge or because publishers are too cheap to use big enough carts and just resort to using a smaller card that cheaper to produce and forcing a partial download. Megaman Ultimate Collection, Resident Evil Triple Pack AND the Origins Collection, Spyro Reignited, Starlink Battle for Atlas, Grand theft Auto Trilogy, Wolfenstein II, Batman Arkham Trilogy and Bioshock the Collection are just a few examples of incomplete titles the Switch has gotten. Don't get me started on code-in-a-box titles either, those are a dime a dozen on the Switch. Luckily a good number of these have better physical on PlayStation or Xbox so it's not totally hopeless here unless you just HAVE to play these games on a train or sitting on the toilet. The AAA 3rd party scene for ALL modern consoles as far as EA, Ubisoft, Activision and Bethesda have had problems with physical media for YEARS, going as far back as last generation which I believe is the source of the finger pointing most people do when they talk about "useless" physical releases. Call of Duty has not had a single complete or fully functional physical since CoD WWII released, pretty much all physical sports titles like Madden, Fifa and NBA 2K have discs that are only useful as drink coasters and even great single player titles like Hogwarts Legacy, Avatar Frontiers of Pandora, Star Wars Jedi Survivor, Mortal Kombat 11 + 1 and Hitman III are all completely unplayable from the disc alone. Many of these franchises are beloved so it does raise a lot of red flags. Single player games in particular have no excuse to be this way. ITs just pure laziness and unwillingness to optimize these games and wanting to push them out the door as quickly as possible. Even with all the games I listed above, it's still a relatively small number compared to everything else that has come out and is certainly not a definitive list. I have over 500 physical PS4 titles, roughly 120ish Switch carts and close to 200 Xbox One/Series X discs with all those numbers growing over time and not a single title amongst those is unable to be played offline or requires a download to become playable. To further that point, there are still many titles out there that I don't have or don't want that are perfectly playable on their own. You just have to do a bit of research and/or apply some common sense before buying them. Doesitplay is a great website resource to do this although it may not always have the title or tested console you want to look at since it is always adding new titles to it tested list. I look at this way: if its playable from an Xbox disc which only maxes at 50GB per disc, then it SHOULD be fine on the PS4 or PS5 which pushes 50GB and 100GB respectively. If it's NOT playable on a PS4 or PS5 disc, then there's a high probability that the Xbox version might also be unplayable. Some like Cyberpunk 2077 Ultimate Edition and Metro Exodus Complete Edition defy this rule of thumb though which, unlike the PS5 versions, has all data including the DLC packed onto any discs inside whereas the PS5 version has the DLC as a download code.
Capcom did that with the MegaMan 1 through 3 collection on switch where MegaMan 1 was on the cartridge, but you had to download 2 and 3 off of the E shop you cannot tell me they couldn’t fit all 3 games on one cartridge
If they decide to "take back" my modern gaming libraries, then I'm going completely retro. End of story. If one has to get digital, then get it half-off or better. Rental games deserve rental prices, after all...
Well isnt this the same thing that happened with music? and Cars are actually becoming like this to mercedes forces you to pay for heated seats in a subscription
128GB SD cards are 15 bucks. Companies are more than aware they can put their games on small and stable physical medium at volume for way less. It's all by design, destroying their own industry. They will have to learn the hard way...
Everyone needs to continue supporting physical media. I realized this back in the ps3 days. I bought a bunch of movies. Well after some years Sony didn’t renew the license to quite a few of my movies and I simply can’t play them. Movies I paid for. I’m buying as much physical as I can while I can. The future will be worse than digital purchase. Games will become a streaming service like Netflix.
The high seas of piracy have kept me flush with games, movies, music, why rent this stuff when you CAN actually own it. Nobody can stop me from playing any games I've pirated because I don't need to be online
Last time I bought a game was saints row 2022 and it was cheap price and then I said nah hell nah no more buying games, if they are pushing out stuff like this and the stuff out now it ain't worth the money or time.
Yessir after saints row I stop completely buying games for good, if it's slop like this being released now it ain't worth it. (Also YT stop removing my comments from your BS)
I've known about this for a long time now, but seeing u come to terms with it in real time was tough to watch, but I did. I tried to warn people about this very thing years ago in a video. I remember Sony locking me out of a digital copy of parasite eve on my PS3. People called me crazy... after that day, I've been full physical ever since and never looked back.
I'm really glad it's becoming mainstream knowledge. I'm pretty in tune with most things video game related, and I let this go right over my head for too long.
Just a small comment on the car analogy. You don’t really own your car either…..try not paying taxes on it. That could be said for your home as well. If you don’t pay your taxes, they take away everything you “own”.
Very true. You should only have to pay taxes on something once to own it. Being able to apply taxes to something indefinitely, then take it away once you cease payment is complete bullsh*t. But that's capitalism for you.
@@TheSixthSLoT The government charging you a fee every year is not capitalism thats just life. Even communist and socialists states have money and in those systems the government nickle and dimes for everything. The US use to not have hardly any taxes other than tariffs. Yet then we were the founding stock Americans rather than our current fake globo mongroid form. Either a big corp runs your life or a big government. People just say muh capitalism like it means anything.
They won't take your car just your license. Funny thing in the constitution its pretty clear only commercial vehicles require license for transporting yourself.
As long as there's no DRM on it and it's not live service, you can make your own physical media. That being said, people must always know what they're paying for. This video just proves how little of people truly acknowledge this and pay full price for digital anyway regardless of the amount of power of ownership. The only real thing I can say for the people with a huge steam library is that Valve promised us that offline downloads for the games we bought will be available once Steam shuts down, let's hope they still keep their word regardless of this license law
@mrconroy4672 it's easy to talk about how poorly they treat their fans, but it's also easy to talk about how them staying in their own lane, etc. has always been a huge benefit to us. I think first-party nintendo releases are the most trustworthy in the industry. They don't really make bad first-party games.
Ubisofts famous comment, that we shou.d get comfortable not owning our games, isthe main reason i am waiting for physical copies of alan wake 2 and black myth
The download patches will render those game discs useless anyway. Even when you buy physical games, they're still digitally dependent. It's pretty rare for any AAA game to come out on disc and not be dependent on a day one patch.
I'm about to hit 30 and I've often been reminiscing about the old days. I grew up with the n64, Gamecube, ps2, and then ps3 and every console we had we owned the best games on their respective platforms physically. I just miss those times and how great gaming was back then. Now it's not only not the same but the fact that the games you buy you don't own is so scary to me. What's even worse is that for disc based games, the proper updated game isn't even on the disc itself. 😕
There are actually more modern physical games that are complete on disc than most people realize, it's just that they are often overshadowed by the often-broken AAA landscape which is the most deeply affected by incomplete or simply broken disc-based games. Pretty much all Microsoft 1st party disc releases, a small number of Sony exclusives, some Switch compilations and many AAA 3rd party releases from Ubisoft, EA, Bethesda and Activision have been incomplete this generation. On the Microsoft side, Flight Simulator cannot be played or installed offline due to it needing live cloud streaming for its in-game assets, Halo Infinite only has the multiplayer component on the disc with the campaign needing to be downloaded from the web (which is a sin to us old-school Halo fans) and Forza Horizon 5 plus Starfield only has half the data on disc making the whole game unplayable until you download the rest of it. To a lesser extent, Dead Rising 3 from last gen consoles cannot be played on a Series X without a download but will play just fine by itself on any Xbox One. As far as I know, the only Sony exclusive physicals that cannot be played or downloaded offline is Gran Turismo 7 and Concord (for anyone that actually DOES still own a copy of that abomination). However, both of these are online only titles so it should be obvious or even a moot point to single those games out. The PS4 and even the PS5 have been generally physical friendly in the exclusives department, but it is still possible for that to change sooner than later so always keep your eyes peeled. This doesn't include possible patches, but usually patches aren't always needed as much as people think. There are exceptions of course like the recently released Slave Zero X or Calisto Protocol which both have buggy and messy disc builds to the point of being nearly unplayable, but that doesn't always happen. The Switch is plagued with physical titles that require downloads from 3rd party releases although its mostly via compilations, titles that are too big to fit on a Switch cartridge or because publishers are too cheap to use big enough carts and just resort to using a smaller card that cheaper to produce and forcing a partial download. Megaman Ultimate Collection, Resident Evil Triple Pack AND the Origins Collection, Spyro Reignited, Starlink Battle for Atlas, Grand theft Auto Trilogy, Wolfenstein II, Batman Arkham Trilogy and Bioshock the Collection are just a few examples of incomplete titles the Switch has gotten. Don't get me started on code-in-a-box titles either, those are a dime a dozen on the Switch. Luckily a good number of these have better physical on PlayStation or Xbox so it's not totally hopeless here unless you just HAVE to play these games on a train or sitting on the toilet. The AAA 3rd party scene for ALL modern consoles as far as EA, Ubisoft, Activision and Bethesda have had problems with physical media for YEARS, going as far back as last generation which I believe is the source of the finger pointing most people do when they talk about "useless" physical releases. Call of Duty has not had a single complete or fully functional physical since CoD WWII released, pretty much all physical sports titles like Madden, Fifa and NBA 2K have discs that are only useful as drink coasters and even great single player titles like Hogwarts Legacy, Avatar Frontiers of Pandora, Star Wars Jedi Survivor, Mortal Kombat 11 + 1 and Hitman III are all completely unplayable from the disc alone. Many of these franchises are beloved so it does raise a lot of red flags. Single player games in particular have no excuse to be this way. ITs just pure laziness and unwillingness to optimize these games and wanting to push them out the door as quickly as possible. Even with all the games I listed above, it's still a relatively small number compared to everything else that has come out and is certainly not a definitive list. I have over 500 physical PS4 titles, roughly 120ish Switch carts and close to 200 Xbox One/Series X discs with all those numbers growing over time and not a single title amongst those is unable to be played offline or requires a download to become playable. To further that point, there are still many titles out there that I don't have or don't want that are perfectly playable on their own. You just have to do a bit of research and/or apply some common sense before buying them. Doesitplay is a great website resource to do this although it may not always have the title or tested console you want to look at since it is always adding new titles to it tested list. I look at this way: if its playable from an Xbox disc which only maxes at 50GB per disc, then it SHOULD be fine on the PS4 or PS5 which pushes 50GB and 100GB respectively. If it's NOT playable on a PS4 or PS5 disc, then there's a high probability that the Xbox version might also be unplayable. Some like Cyberpunk 2077 Ultimate Edition and Metro Exodus Complete Edition defy this rule of thumb though which, unlike the PS5 versions, has all data including the DLC packed onto any discs inside whereas the PS5 version has the DLC as a download code.
Man, this was really well written and concise. Enjoyable to read and easy to follow. I like your talking points, You should be making videos too, I think. Well said pal 👊
@@Ragepatty Thanks, and sorry for the long post. I'm huge into physical collecting so I always want to try and spread the word of how most modern physicals are still fine on their own but also try to warn others of physicals that are gimped. I've actually thought of posting vids for some time, I just don't have any recording equipment and I'd want to make sure I'm doing it the right way and high quality. Sort of my inner perfectionist fighting me lol. Still, with gaming turning into something... less than desirable these days to put it lightly, I'm strongly considering doing videos to point out great games and do talking points like this. Your reply may end up being a good push to do that. Thanks. :)
I’m fed up with the subscription/own nothing model. If I can’t physically own a copy of the media or I need to have an internet connection to run the disk, then aye aye matey, I’m off to sail the 7 seas and the software will be loaded with crack
These game companies are not being transparent with us. There are litteral nonstop layoffs from AAA companies the last year. A lot of people are colelcting and still playing games. But theyre going to ps3/ 360 and earlier because i think people are getting fed up with it. I think they are insulting their customers by this point
the day physical copies are over it , I might be done with games. Digital games at full price is absurd and criminal, now if its on sale for less then 20$CDN no problem but never will I pay 100$ for a digital game. Going forward emulation will be the way
It's not just about owning a physical copy. It's about its ability to run with no internet connection, being safe from "updates", and having a system to run it on. Then the autonomous copy could be stored on any convenient media to be safe.
because of that reason I am leading to pirating the games instead of buying them, also I love how people say that "this is a reason why physical copies are better" when you can't even buy physical copy of the game they take down
Since I have the Series X I only use the gamepass and I also bought some games but never physical games. I realized how much playing is losing its charm. I download a game and if I don’t like it after 5 minutes, I download another one, all without even getting up from my couch... The saddest thing is that when I go to big supermarkets, the Xbox shelf is very small and sometimes even completely empty (just a few controllers...). When you see the turn of the video game world, I thought it was not too late, this week I started building a library of video games again, it does not matter if it is a game that dates back 5 years or more, as long as I have a good time. And when I have no more games to play, I go to my local video game store to buy some games. It’s only been a short week since I changed my way of «consuming» video games but it feels good and it makes me think a lot about how I played 10 or 15 years ago. So yes, it’s not as fast as digital games and it’s not always next-gen games but I recommend it to all, it’s worth it 😉
And then there're the disks that only have a popup window installed on them, that connect you to an online server to download the game. Or it's a piece of carton with a link on it.
The decline of video games as a resilient, artistic medium feels like a multi-layered "death," driven by several factors: 1. Death of the Art Form: Many modern games prioritize profit over creative integrity, sidelining the artistic vision that once defined the industry. This shift has led to more formulaic, risk-averse titles that lack the depth and originality of earlier eras. 2. Death of Physical Media: Physical copies of games are rarely complete today. Even when you buy a disc or cartridge, crucial parts of the game (like patches or entire segments) often require online downloads, making physical media feel like a placeholder rather than a fully owned product. 3. Loss of Digital Ownership: Many digital storefronts impose restrictive DRM (Digital Rights Management) systems, which severely limit what you can do with your purchases. You might lose access to a game if the platform decides to remove it, effectively erasing your ownership. 4. End of Standalone Gaming Systems: The gaming industry is shifting towards cloud-based streaming services, where gamers access titles through streaming rather than traditional consoles or PC downloads. In this future, you’re not buying hardware or software but a temporary subscription, leaving control firmly in the hands of service providers. 5. Disappearance of Old Games and Media Decay: Physical media degrades over time, and older games are at risk of vanishing. Without preservation, titles from previous decades may be lost permanently due to deteriorating discs and tapes. 6. Anti-Cheat Software and Server Shutdowns: Online DRM checks and anti-cheat software add further hurdles, while server shutdowns often mean that many games eventually become unplayable, especially those reliant on online elements. --- Potential Solutions One potential way to preserve games is by creating multiple backup formats, such as storing games on multi-layer Blu-rays or dedicated SSDs. Circumventing DRM checks, though technically challenging and legally questionable, is another consideration for personal backups. Although some applications can bypass online checks for platforms like Steam, their quality varies, and most still don’t offer seamless offline experiences. For now, physical media and digital distribution sites like Good Old Games (GOG) offer the best hopes for reliable access. But true change may require global collective action. Until then, finding workarounds like private servers, community-supported mods, or even backups through hacks or cracks might be necessary to keep these games alive. In the end, the best way forward might be a mix of advocacy for better consumer rights, community preservation efforts, and technological solutions. Without some degree of protest and collective effort, gaming’s future might be more controlled and constrained, rather than free and accessible. When it comes to accessing both physical and digital media, piracy-though legally and ethically complex-often provides a smoother, more complete user experience. Pirated versions frequently bypass DRM, granting users more freedom and offline access, and often come without the intrusive anti-cheat and licensing checks that can disrupt gameplay. Remarkably, this applies not just to digital media but even to physical goods; pirated versions or unauthorized modifications can improve performance, access, or functionality, allowing users to enjoy a "full" product experience, one that is sometimes superior to what paying customers receive. This paradox reflects a key frustration in media ownership today: even legitimate purchases often come with limitations that do not affect pirated versions. For instance, while physical game copies are increasingly missing content that must be downloaded, pirated editions are often complete, delivering a cohesive and reliable experience without dependency on online access.
@marcus_cole_2 This is on par with my best writing and would take me a decent amount of time. If you did this yourself without outside help from robots, then I applaud you. This is very well done. It's why I started going off script on all my videos. Everything that's written nowadays sounds really good. It is always questioned if it's authentic. Which is annoying because I really enjoy the art of script writing even though I don't use them a lot. Great comment, pal.
I like having physical copies of my video games. Do you still collect physical media?
Yes, but I'm starting to build a decent retro collection.
I collect everything physical. I don't own any digital music or books or movies. I buy every game, CD or vinyl, movie and book all in physical form
@@ffviifakeremake9997 I've been slowly still adding to mine! Pricey tho
@spacelion4763 That's a real commitment, lol. I respect it . Sometimes my laziness wins, and I'll buy something on a sale, etc, digitally. Definitely will be doing it more so now
Yes. Always have, always will do (as long as physical copies are provided)
Screw digital. Physical media forever. I'll be fighting for the right to own
Agreed
Physical is any better. U still need online connection to play
Only this Gen and last. Everything PS3 and earlier is normally on the disc as long as it's not an online server based game@@mackcity74gdn89
@@mackcity74gdn89and you need to subscribe to plus or xbox online to play multiplayer, I miss ps3 no plus subscription just a physical disc game and internet connection and you are set
@@mackcity74gdn89 That's the sad part. And I hate when people defend it.
I own 3000 discs dvd's/music cds'/blu rays/games. I have music cd's that I purchased in 1992 that still work. I have an entire room in my house devoted to physical media. I rarely buy anything digital. I don't even sub to netflix.
I like your energy pal! Lol nice
So what's your family supposed to do with all that shit after you die?
Love your mentality. Smart man. It amazes me how these lames youtubers come up with all kinds of excuses on why they think digital games are better. Those same guys cry and complain when the sony and MS servers shut down lol. This guy says there's a lot of games that's not on disc. Most games are.
Same! 👍🏾
Yeah i think subscriptions suck there is a lot of movies and TV shows becoming lost media due to them being removed like how max took away their originals that you can't stream legally anywhere
If buying isn't owning, then piracy isn't stealing.
I'm not advocating for it, but I understand it more. Piracy often has very little to do with the money and more about the barrier to entry. People who were going to pirate your game will do it regardless. But when you make the only way to get the game in a region by pirating it due to region locked or Nintendo having no respect for preserving their older titles, then like I said before I do understand why people do it.
I'm not a PC person while you never really owned your Online PC games
Fair point to make, but if a game is widely available to purchase especially current gen then people shouldn’t pirate it.
@@mrconroy4672 100% Agree
@mrconroy4672 I don't advocate for it or even do it but I understand why it happens.
When everyone says that game ownership is dead on PC but everyone ignores the GOG existence
Not everything is on GOG though
@@ApolloT-vp5dna lot is and if more ppl buy games there they have more space to bring new games in. There is a wishlist and they try to bring games from that to gog
Just people not trying to admit their mistake. I did made that mistake but wont continue making it. Will never buy from steam again. Only GOG if they give me an offline installer.
@histhoryk2648 I think that's just because steam is such a user-friendly platform as far as ease of use and the amount of titles vs GOG. But I'll be looking to GOG now when I can
There’s more drm free options
It's hilarious seeing people NOW realize that you technically don't fully own digital games. This has been the case since the Xbox 360 and ps3 days. The only difference is now they've dumbed down the terminology in the terms of service nobody ever read. 😂
Yeah, we stopped buying consoles at XB1 because it was clear we weren't going to be able to buy discs for much longer, and most of the ones we got required day-1 patches or an online connection even for single-player games. I'm very much over new games. My wife and I gave in and tried our very first fully digital game in Diablo 4 last year and loved it at launch as a couch-coop couple, but now they've patched it to the point we hate it for casual play. They changed all the gearing systems and now you can't do much until after level 50, making it terrible for casual seasonal players who barely make it to level 50 in a season (due to time constraints in real life) if they do make it at all. We don't have any live services, so we can't talk to or group with these randos on the map. We just wanted a fun game for offline co-op play. That's not what this was, and we will not be playing it again. We deleted it and walked away this past spring. We feel we got our money's worth with the base game and those first three seasons, so no harm, no foul, but we aren't giving them any more money. D3 is still king in our household.
Starfield definitely needed some of the quality of life fixes that came in the January and then June patches, like desperately, but the new vehicle thing, I hate it. I never wanted it, and I won't use it. But there it is, gigabytes taking up extremely limited space on my hard drive. I should be able to opt in/out of every patch that is offered if it's a single-player game. How I play has zero impact on how anyone else plays. I should not be required to access the internet to play a solo game. I should be able to drag the console out to an off-grid cabin in the woods and play my game direct from disc on day 1. Anything less than that is unacceptable and I will not be purchasing any future games or current games that do not let me do that. They're selling unfinished games and we need to teach them that's not okay.
Maybe I'm just lucky, but as a switch player, I've yet to buy and play a game that is fully single player, and locked to online. I keep seeing people say it's happening with every single game, but on switch it ain't happening.
@@camharkness it definitely is for releases that Switch doesn't get. Last I checked they weren't getting things like Starfield, God of War, or Star Wars Outlaws. A quick Google search shows that Assassin's Creed Valhalla is available on Switch and *DOES* require being online to play. So yes, it is happening, just not on kids games and platformers. Yet.
Preach 🙌
Not everyone pays attention to gaming like us. People rightfully assumed they owned the games
I still buy physical copies of games when it's a franchise I care about.
Same.
Or when you can, When I have checked the popular games are in big boxes that are mostly empty but do contain a code to redeem online.
The thing is that physical copies are not so much different from digital nowadays... most if not all of them are either incomplete installers or just have the key code to download it.
@Genojo they can actually fix game breaking bugs these days. Idk what the big deal is. All we need are external hard drives or ssd drives. 🤷♂️
It's literally what NASA does. 😅
Nobody likes the new stuff that comes out anyways
@@Genojo
“You will own nothing and be happy” wasn’t a threat it was a promise
Everyone should read the article where that quote is from, its eye opening.
@@carlthulhu9970where does it come from? I know the quote but not the article. Thx
@@glimmergrun4164 from wikipedia:
In 2016, Auken published an essay originally titled "Welcome to 2030. I own nothing, have no privacy, and life has never been better", later retitled "Here's how life could change in my city by the year 2030", on the WEF's official web site.
thyt's why they want to ban all cars.
in the future you rant everything, no buying, no owning.
@@glimmergrun4164 I commented with more info, but my comment isn't showing up. It was titled "Welcome to 2030. I own nothing, have no privacy, and life has never been better".
Case is 20 years old. But people weren't listening about it back then. "But it's more convenient!" Yeah. Especially if the corpo goes bankrupt and shud down its servers, or your HDD goes dead. Digital = non-existent.
Exactly my point when I said why I didn't want to try Steam, I only have it for small independent developers who don't edit discs, but anyways I mostly have free games, or free because 100% price reduction on sales, so if Steam goes crash, I wouldn't lose that much of value.
Convenience is a freedom killer
@@LordofSorrow7the thing is, steam is huge so how would ever that happen, even fifty years from now? Hell, ten years?
@@codered1132 Absolutely true. That's the biggest argument you could have despite their bad pratices and the real contenders who are, to this day, Epic, Humble Bundle and GOG. But you never know for sure. I tend to lean more towards buying on GOG for this matter since there is no DRM. Well for what I buy it's just enough but I can understand why heavy buyers wouldn't care that much.
@@EmoDKTsuchiya in implementation, it is.
A grim future created by people who wanted immediate gratification.
The companies are to blame this Illuminati new world order creedo has to go!
Biggest mistakes I made was to sell all my PS4 discs games to replace them by digital purchases as it was much easier to manage during my travels. Lesson learned. Digital games are licences to play. It's renting and not owning. Now I stay with physical.
biggest mistake is owning a PS4/PS5 in general, play PS2 and PS3 to know quality consoles and games.
@@YOUR140RAVES agree. the besy era for video games to me was definitely the ps3 / xbox360 era. Plus retro gaming is such an opportunity on PC.
don't 0wn physical neather
@@YOUR140RAVES well i mean i olay old 360/OG games on my Xbox One
🙂 i have a ps2 down in Nicaragua, as for games the stores down there have them on laptops, you tell them what games you want and they will give it you on a usb jump drive
I’m 90% physical copies 10% digital only games. I hate digital because I always knew I never owned it
I was naive af lol
@@Ragepatty could always be a filthy pirate 🏴☠️ if they take your games nothing’s stopping you from getting them back through the back door lol, always made me feel better
Hope this video blows up, much deserved & a serious topic I feel a lot of people don’t bother to think about
If you're playing modern games that way, make sure the game discs store enough of the game to be playable without Internet
@Seveinis its only "serious" now because people who can't read are finding out through youtubers what people who read the terms of service have known for almost 20 years. 😂
People who are just now realizing this after all these years are primarily the source of their own problems regarding the subject.
Such heated debates back then. Now they see. Not above saying I told you so.
There's always a new sucker
@Greazvstheworld I was naive af to a lot of the bigger situation and am only these last couple weeks coming to terms with my stupidity. Luckily, it's not too late to start backing everything up and make smarter choices moving forward
I remember way back in 2006 or thereabouts I created my Steam account because you had to register to play Half Life 2. Literally as I did it I had this gut feeling it would not end up in a good place. I remember a lot of people complaining on forums about it.
@goodlookinouthomie1757 I was late to the party with steam and never had an account until like 2010 or maybe even a little later! I was buying physical for the longest time. I think i purchased and lost and repurchased Starcraft 2 box set like 3 times, lol
The high seas are about to get a lot more traffic.
Yarrr matey
Shiver me timbers
"We will ALWAYS own our PC games" -Captain Jack Sparrow ;)
Lol clever
facts
F.E.A.R Gold Edition still safe right?
"Do what you want cause a pirate is free" - Robbie Rotten
@@douglasbullet6456 YOU ARE A PIRATE!!!!!!!!!!!!
As a millennial, I witnessed physical and digital games.
It breaks my heart to see modern physical games. Requiring internet or a stupid online account for EA or something.
I am already starting to buy PS3 and early consoles to avoid this abuse.
If it’s physical then I should be able to sell/trade or own the game for that specific disk/cartridge.
🙂 nah, i dont care for console versions, they dont have accessibilty options to bypass sections that are very difficult, to me its not worth it if your going to tell me either Git Gud or just dont bother playing then. I dont think thats cool or fair.
no phsyical? i don't buy, skip a game or pirate them period!
Same UNLESS its a gane thats on sale and i dont care to physically own. 98% of my collection will remain physical.
do me a favor. when i start making video games.. pirate from me.. yes i am promoting. pirate my stuff. you will own them
@@somechupacabrawithinternet8866can't wait to see you cry and moan in the future about not having money.
Based
6:45 it’s funny you bring up Cars and subscriptions for features installed in the car. They are doing that now; watch a Louis Rossman video on it. Also, physical can also be removed, look at the crew. DRM free is what we need and we need to support stop killing games and movements like that. Also, GOG exists and I’m starting to buy things there
New world order
I remember buying a game on Steam back in 2016, and I played it for a couple hours, uninstalled it, and moved it to something else. I came back to wanting to play it in 2022, and when I went to the game, the page simply said the gamr was no longer available and was removed from the store. Couldn't find it anywhere. It was then I came to the realization that the 260+ games I bought could all end up falling under the same problem. So I bought consoles, and decided to collect physical games, brand new, still factory sealed so I can maximize the life out of my physical media, especially for when I kids get older, so they have them going through their childhood without fear of it randomly disappearing some day. (I also own physical books and movies. I don't have anything digitally after this happening because it was just a slap in the face at the time.)
🙂 i try to backup all my digital games to my local 3.5 Hard Drives, and yes for the same reason the backups are for my Son and really the rest of the family if they like video games. I have consoles and some physical discs but i dont care for games on consoles because there is no accessibilty options, no trainers, no God Mode, no Mods, most games are ridiculous and were never meant to be played by casualers. Thats why I pretty much skipped video games most of my lifetime cause its bogus, i dont see any fun dieing over and over again and theres no way to bypass difficult sections? But thanks to PC alot of the games are no accessible to me when before it was not.
Nintendo can be very stubborn, but that ensures that Nintendo will always continue to sell physical games
I hearted and liked this comment lol
This is why I'm moving to gog.
Fun fact,
you have the right to make and own a back up copy of anything digital. As long as you don't override any security.
@aradecomate8261 This is what I thought about my steam games! Will have to look into this process, perhaps get a storage drive just for old games.
I love GOG to death and have supported them for years, but it's so unfortunate that they don't even have a third of the selection that Steam has. This is my biggest issue with GOG. If publishers chose GOG the way the choose Steam, I'd buy 100% of my games from GOG. Unfortunately DRM free games is not something that interests most publishers. It downright scares them away due to piracy and lack of control.
@@TheSixthSLoT hit the nail on the head here
@@Ragepatty Yeah. Wish I was wrong though.
Nah, the security today actively prevents you from making legal backups. I'm not having companies dictate what I bought 20 years after I bought them.
People like me never switched to digital only because i knew exactly what was in the licence agreement.
I used to warn people, and they'd mock and ridicule. Now that people are realising the issues with digital, it's already too late on PC.
People should have listened and bought physical.
Yep, everyone right now could save physical for consoles but they won’t
Lmao I never had to read a damn license agreement to know that If I can't hold it I DON'T OWN IT!!!!.. Simple
Just wait until companies start cancelling licenses after a while, which they are within their rights to do. E.g. you "buy" a game, and 4 years later they remove it from your library and force you to buy it again at full price.
Then people will start crying about it even though it's too late.
@@Adam_U That's already happened in some cases.
Bought physical on PC, where???
Best solution is to 🏴☠️ games and to keep them with mods and patches in HDDs and SSDs.
Don't know any madman that keeps 60Gb+ games on discs.
I don't see the appeal of the physical argument. Games are data. Storage solutions are already physical anyways.
Especifically like once Ubisoft wanted, hope more people see this video and turn for this practices that company wants to push on us.
Great video.
@@hierominazuki1260 appreciate the kind words 💙
Ubisoft can shove it. Don't give them a penny.
Buying is a legal team meaning you own it. if a company takes it away regardless of how long you have owned it, if it's taken away from the buyer it's classified as theft so the company has no choice, but to give you your money back. just keep in mind to always keep your receipts as proof.
I am an older gamer and have been screaming this since Steam and downloadable games came onto the scene -- if you don't own physical media, you own nothing. But the reply I heard so often was "... but downloading games is so convenient." Well, convenience is the con. Is online banking convenient? Yes. Is it safer than going to the bank? No. The internet has made many things convenient, but in the end it's an illusion of safety and ownership. And that doesn't mean that buying physical is always foolproof. Why? Because the PS5 makes you connect via internet the first time you boot a game from a physical disc! No, gamers need to demand ownership and refuse anything but 100% ownership of their media. Maybe that means going back to earlier consoles and using GOG (on PC) over Steam? But it's time we demand all that money on digital games wasn't simply stolen... or... make certain we don't waste more money on things we don't own.
Well said
sure but console disc or cartridges are useless to me, who wants to be playing Super Mario Bros without an Accessibility Mode? i dont, i never really cared for it because they dont include Accessibilty Options for Casualers? there is no God Mode, No Trainers, No Cheats, No Mods. Either you Git Gud or your basically SOL. So thats why I never really bothered. I might be in the minority I guess cause I never heard anyone complain about it beside myself. So yeah to me the console stuff is useless. As far as pc you have drm free versions and u can set Sail as well, so you gotta do both, then all you have to do is invest in Server Hard Drives and download everything locally and keep it updated and backed up regularly just like any company out there does. To me thats worth it that way. But i might be in the minority. Do whatever works for you i guess.
I prefer physical copies then digital ones.
No ownership, no buy! Time to set the sails again!
100% on board with this. When the games fail they will have to rework their strategy. Either we own It or you won't sell it
So because you dont like how they sell a game you will steal it?
Wow, thats so deu ce...
@@dusermiginte4647 Cry about it
@@BeKaws420 Im not a poor kid and a thief dude... Im not the one crying about it..
You will understand when you grow up..
@dusermiginte4647 When your grown up you'll realize why people pirate. Has nothing to do with money, spoiled rich kid.
Glad to hear someone telling the truth about this... And the people who defend this from companies are a major part of the problem... This is why I stick with retro gaming...
The size of modern games is another problem that I wish more people would do videos on. Some games now are almost as big as the entire SSD space that the Xbox Series S ships with. How has this happened? Sony and Microsoft need to start implementing size limits for video games on consoles, because the size of games has gotten completely out of hand.
@cobalt-snake6125 The fact i have to uninstall a game that I paid for that may not be there when I want to reinstall it is the crazy part. Even if you wanted to show your kids years from now in the future and you go to download something you bought and that server is closed, and now your game is deleted and gone. I can fit half a dozen games on my PS5 if I'm lucky
Totally agree with you. People need to fight back and openly speak about this!
When google closed Google music they went into my phone and deleted about 2000 songs that I had paid for. I only buy games on sale now, under £20 and mainly play my backlog a d try to keep my money in the bank. Digital is theft .
@RangerZero47 nintendo always start a new store every machine., switch store might last near the end of the switch 2 as it is popular, but it WILL go away.
You have made the perfect everyday gamers genuine argument. Brilliant honest video.
I am right with you on this subject because I noticed this issue After I purchased my last game very recently. The companies don't tell you until you've purchased the game.
There is only 1 action from every gamer. Do not buy anymore digital games, movies or music. Only purchase the hard copies.
Thanks very much for the kind words, pal. I appreciate it
Boycott the companies that shove these policies. It would also make a difference if there is no physical case in stored with download codes that's up to retailers who support physical media.
The real danger of going digital only is that it will eliminate the 2nd hand game market and will give them a monopoly on their digital store fronts. Imagine if the Switch 2 was digital only, that would mean that Nintendo now has a monopoly on their digital store shop and since you are forced to buy from there online store with no option to buy used, Nintendo can charge whatever they want..
@russellmania5349 That's why nintendo never does sales on their first-party games ! Good points
@@russellmania5349 Look at the overpriced games on the PSN...you have to wait a looong time before getting sales...that are still more pricey that 2nd hand games. Plus what will happen once they cut the internet?
@@Ragepatty It does not matter much with Nintendo, and their "evergreen" ideology on their games. Most ppl know that their Nintendo games keep their value. So at most you can expect a 10$ discount, over a new copy. At that point I would just buy a new game. Tho their 3rd party releases are not better. You can still find very old games like Doom 2016, costing 50$-60$. For the Switch ofc. Same with other similar games. So digital or physical, you are still paying for the "privilege" of playing on their underpowered device.
For other consoles it's very true. The less physical release you have on consoles like PS5/XBOX, the more they can charge you on their digital stores. PS4 had amazing deals on PSN store when I was still playing on it. A new release could be out, and in 5-6 months you could already see a 30% discount on it, and up to 40%-50% on the used market. It all changed with the release of PS5. Now even a year after release, a 1st party game can still only be as low as 20%-30% off. And that's on huge sales, not some random deal of the week.
So yea, since the consoles now costs way more than what they used to. Not even going down in price after 3-4 years(they are actually more expensive, lol). Same with the games, and the discounts on them. I have just moved on to PC gaming fully. You can't beat the deals on Steam, or the lower prices on new games on CD-Key sites. The official ones ofc.
Not to mention PC can do more than just game. So if you have the option, it's better to just save some more, and buy a mid-range PC. Even more so now, when they want you to pay 800$(EU) for a PRO version. That comes without a disc drive, and has a SSD that combined with the motherboard of the console. So you can't ever remove it, and get a new one.
So in essence, you are just buying a ticking time bomb. Where you can never replace the clock.
@asahira7834 Some of these comments are more well done than my entire video. What a cool community, lol.
You make good points. I agree Steam is too good to pass up, but I will have to start backing up any of my games I'm able to do so with.
For me, my expensive pc is in my office, so the convenience of playing on my ps5 in my living room sometimes makes me get games on there I would of preferred or been better off buying on steam..
Nintendo has the most consistent well made first party releases of any of the big 3, imo as far as releasing completed, working games on release day. They know this too, which is another reason their content is the same price on year 5 as it was on release.
I never stopped buying physical versions of everything I collect (video games, music, movies, books) because YEARS ago, South Park used to be completely free to watch online but then they kept moving it to different paid websites.
That made me so mad (I was a kid then, lol) that I saved up and bought the DVDs.
From then, I applied that to everything. The only time I buy digital is when there is a STEEP discount on a mid game. Or a second copy digitally.
That's why I heavily got into buying physical stuff again the past 6 months... I have about 300 games (PS1 - PS4, PC, Gameboy & SNES), 200+ music CDs and maybe the same amount of movies. I also love to have great cover art and a booklet to read the lyrics of music CDs and manuals for games. Not only what's on the disc is art - the whole package is and the "wrapping" sometimes adds the little extra, at least for me!
I’ve seen people go through so many hoops just to buy a mid or bad product, not owning it or owing it for a limited time is a new low. This mentality of “owning and being happy” does not make sense to me
I saw this coming long ago. That's the reason why I insist on buying a physical copy of a game. Not just games though. Books, movies, and music. The only way to push back is to not spend your money on what you don't feel is warranted. We have to stop pandering to these companies as if we don't have a choice.
When I was a boy, I used to ask for video games for Christmas and birthday. Still, at age 44, I ask for video games on holiday wish lists. I guess some things never change.
44 is young. Wait til you get 68! There was a time before video games.
I've barely started collecting a small amount of games, 20, and I always loved physical media. All that extra stuff with game maps or manuals, aww I love that stuff man.
Don't drop money on digital Don't be a sucker .
I play on Pc. 90% of the games don’t even have a physical release.
@@casualcadaver I would totally go back to buying physical if they stopped forcing games to be online, microtranactions, key codes, & drm.
@@DeadPhoenix86DP How do you buy Elden Ring on GOG though , thats the real question.
"Don't drop money on digital Don't be a sucker ."
people who will Pre Order GTA VI: "You hear sum?"
people who will pre Order The ELder Scrolls 6: "Nah."
people who will pre Order RDR 3: "nope."
people who will pre Order [insert any other overhyped AAA Game]: "Physical is so old school. Digital is the Future of Game Preservation."
People who are mostly on Steam, Origin, Uplay, Battlenet, etc...:"We literally have no other option than Digital because our former Gen was too brainwashed and stupid, bought Half - Life 2 despite kickstarting the end of the Golden Age of PC Gaming, Onwership, Freedom, used Games Market, Physical Media and LAN Mode, due to "our Lord and Savior" Gaben implemented Online Activation, then a digital Storefront, then Always on DRM (STEAM) and then Gambling (TF2 hats/ CS Skins). Yep, we are to blame."
Saw this coming a mile away years ago.
True story: The day I got my steam account hacked/ the day I got scammed I almost lost everything including my games.
I've wasted over 4,500 bucks but I managed to get that money back, However I've realized steam is also not trustworthy as well when it comes to digital games.
I'm not saying Steam is awful Don't get me wrong, They are always Superior when it comes to PC gaming.
However nowadays, I'm pretty sure you've heard of the "I accidentally reported you scam" situation. Sadly not everyone knows about it and almost a bunch of people get their accounts lost or hacked into.
Once your Steam account gets hacked all of your games will be gone as well, That event made me appreciate physical games a whole lot more.
@M64bros they tried that scam on me. It didn't work, but it's a great point bringing that up
And people wonder why I don't jump through hoops to get new games on new consoles. I tell my friends that the last thing I want to do when I get home from work is wait for a massive update to be downloaded before I can play my game. And this adds to more reason why I stick with my older consoles. One smart thing that I did in hindsight was to buy PS2 games back when they were dirt cheap. Not for resale value, but because the PS2 had a HUGE library, and I wouldn't have the desire to get another console. In hindsight, with all the politics of digital media and "ownership", it turned out to be the smartest move, especially with people hyping up old PS2 classics now.
Only multiplayer games are unplayable without update. If it’s single player, You can get home from work and freely play that game while update is downloading and after you finish playing, start instaling update. Easy.
But man… I miss PS1 and PS2 era of gaming. No instaling games, no hard drives and ssds. If you have 1000 games at home, you have 1000 games playable asap 24/7
It's impossible to stop now. The only way that It could be stopped is if the vast and overwhelming majority of people that buy video games simply refused to buy any digital media collectively and stuck by it. With the clearly stated goal of guaranteed ownership and that physical copies of games function regardless of your online status and are more than just an access key, which today is all they really are. It will never happen. Most people are already too used to the convenience of digital media. This should have been a larger topic of discussion years ago when everyone noticed that even though physical distribution was going down, the cost of games continued to rise or remain the same. Plus, they were not even kind enough to do what the blu rays were doing before and giving you a digital download code when you bought your physical copy of a movie. This is something that we have all contributed to. I do occasionally buy physical games still, but my nearest legitimate game store is 50 miles away and oftentimes, when I do go there, they do not have what I am looking for anyway. So even if you are hell bent on buying your games physically, you usually will have to order them online anyway which leaves you waiting. And after you are done waiting, you have to wait even longer for installation and updates. Depending on where you live and how your internet is, this can be a significant amount of time. I don't know what the realistic solution is, all I do know is that anything less than a massive boycott in which everyone participates, that is so destructive to the industry that it simply cannot be ignored, feels like it would be worthless. And it's not just entertainment media that wishes to remove the idea of ownership from the greater public consciousness, but the government and the globalist psychopaths that control it do as well. When these demons say "you will own nothing and be happy" they mean it. Well, not the being happy part. They could not care less about that.
I’ve been aware of this for a decade, as a child because I played ios games so unknown that I’ve lost things I paid money for and I can’t even pirate them because they’re lost media that no one cares about
_Yeah, they got me. I got scammed. Bought so many digitally and now I wish I had stuck with physical media._ Paid for convenience, Lost ownership
A lot of us did. We can redeem ourselves by making sure we aim to purchase drm free games and keep them installed on a backup for yourself
@Ragepatty Yes, I collected PS2, PS3, PS4 physical but fell off near the end of the PS4 into the PS5 with digital. I will revert back to my old ways 😉👍 Much Love and Great Video Bro!
😎👊💥👊😎
It's not only that; Even if you have a physical copy of a game, it may not install on a pc simply because the OS is a newer version and doesn't 'like' the files on the disc
GREAT! We're officially living in the beginning of an 80s dystopian sci-fi flick.
Lol, it sure does feel like that 😅
Im going retro. Been buying ps1-3 games and enjoying them. Same with bluray and dvd at thrift stores. Decades of entertainment i never experienced so its new to me.
It is amazing to hear you make such a positive spin on the situation! Honestly, most of my greatest gaming experiences have all come from games made more than a decade ago!
@@Ragepatty
Retro is cool, because you also get manuals.
First the axed the manuals, then they axed the discs, now they the axe any kind of ownership.
I am 46 currently. i was born at the beginning of the arcade age. now i am at the death of the video game because of game companies ruining everything with DEI and wokeness, and now, just telling us "you will own nothing and like it"
6:23 Yeah i get the feeling that Ferrari might jump on that idea. I mean those guys can literally sue you for customizing the car you bought from them.
At first, I thought this was a joke until I realized it wasn't. World gone mad.
Yeah, I was just about to comment about this. That's *technically* how Tesla works as well. They can turn features on and off remotely, so they'd be able to just shut off your car as well.
Problem is even if you had discs you didnt really own it but there were no way for someone to go and take it back if they wanted.
This is wrong. The majority of console games are completely on the disc and fully playable.
@@ApolloT-vp5dn Until your console get's bricked.
@@kubabooba548 And how does it get bricked exactly?
@@ApolloT-vp5dn He just talking bullshit dont pay attention
well put, I'd also add that in most cases with new AAA titles, they get released unfinished so we basically rent an unfinished product at full price. what a time to be alive.
@@dantheanimator unfair af
I keep a "backup" of all my games in repack format and load it onto a RAID setup.
I need to look into this and do this
@@Ragepatty Its expensive. Especially if you get higher capacity hard drives like me, but the peace of mind is worth it.
I do the exact same. I use a 2280 4tb nvme in an external enclosure. It's strictly dedicated for that alone. I know the peace of mind. Well worth the $250.
I want to do this also. I really want to preserve what little I have left on physical disc or cartridge. A tutorial from you would be great on how to get started
@iReturnV1deotapes point us in the right direction so that anybody else reading this can know where to start. I guess figuring out which games are drm free and then creating digital backups would be step 1.
I learned this lesson years ago, but with netflix. I always knew that I didn't own anything that's available for streaming on the platform, but what really pissed me off was finding out that a favorite movie, that was once on rhe platform, was no longer available. That really upset me, and put my on the path of physical media. You can't remove a movie/show, if I own the physical. Had numerous friends laugh at me for purchasing movies/games off of ebay 3-4 years ago. Now everybody is starting to realize what's really going on.
They can even dictate how you use those games. I'm not sure if this is still a thing (I think it is) but remember when Capcom implemented technology into RE2 remake and their other games so that they can detect if the software was modified? They did this in an attempt to stop people from applying nudity mods, fearing that those mods would be seen as negative exposure to their IP's. You bought it at full price, yet they're telling you how you can or can't use it. The biggest hypocrisy to this is Capcom constantly sexualizes so many of their Street Fighter characters, which would naturally make you want to see them naked, but then when you try to, they block you. Makes a lot of sense.
Yeah capcom hates mods they see it as cheating or some bullshit.
@@brianwt1 I can understand it in a MP game like Street Fighter (even though I used that game for my example) but there's zero reason why I shouldn't be able to mod Claire Redfield or those vampire girls in RE8 fully nude if I wanted to do so. Controlling single player games is a huge over reach by Capcom, but that goes to show that any of these companies can do whatever they want in those EULA agreements.
@@TheSixthSLoT yeah I completely agree with you.
If they take away your digital games, movies, TV, music, ETC you pirate them back
When is the last time you ever bought physical disc PC game?
Sadly, it's been decades at this point. It definitely took too many years for me to realise I couldn't though lol
I'm really considering going back to buying physical copies of games. I used to buy physical games all the time until the pandemic happened and we all went into quarantine and then I switched over to digital. But at the time I wasn't fully aware that you didn't actually own the digital games you were buying and that the PlayStation Store can pretty much take it away whenever they wanted to, but I did find it more convenient, especially when the PlayStation Store would tell you when games were on sale.
We will fight save physical copies
It's ironic and sad in a way how piracy is becoming the sole way to actually "own" something, because, well, at least you can't lose access to something on your hardware that doesn't require verification unless said hardware breaks.
Thing is, nowadays, physical media isn't what it was either. It used to be you bought a disc and your whole game was in it. Then it became buying a disc and the whole game is in it but part of it is locked away because they want you to pay for that content separately. Then it became buying a disc and the game is barely even in it, you still have to download 40gb before you get to play, so they just sold you a download link in a disc.
And y'all made fun of us for still playing on switch
Most discs contain the full game. There’s a website where you can check called does it play
Can you link us t the site?@@AmericanWears
There are actually more modern physical games that are complete on disc than most people realize, it's just that they are often overshadowed by the often-broken AAA landscape which is the most deeply affected by incomplete or simply broken disc-based games. Pretty much all Microsoft 1st party disc releases, a small number of Sony exclusives, some Switch compilations and many AAA 3rd party releases from Ubisoft, EA, Bethesda and Activision have been incomplete this generation.
On the Microsoft side, Flight Simulator cannot be played or installed offline due to it needing live cloud streaming for its in-game assets, Halo Infinite only has the multiplayer component on the disc with the campaign needing to be downloaded from the web (which is a sin to us old-school Halo fans) and Forza Horizon 5 plus Starfield only has half the data on disc making the whole game unplayable until you download the rest of it. To a lesser extent, Dead Rising 3 from last gen consoles cannot be played on a Series X without a download but will play just fine by itself on any Xbox One.
As far as I know, the only Sony exclusive physicals that cannot be played or downloaded offline is Gran Turismo 7 and Concord (for anyone that actually DOES still own a copy of that abomination). However, both of these are online only titles so it should be obvious or even a moot point to single those games out. The PS4 and even the PS5 have been generally physical friendly in the exclusives department, but it is still possible for that to change sooner than later so always keep your eyes peeled. This doesn't include possible patches, but usually patches aren't always needed as much as people think. There are exceptions of course like the recently released Slave Zero X or Calisto Protocol which both have buggy and messy disc builds to the point of being nearly unplayable, but that doesn't always happen.
The Switch is plagued with physical titles that require downloads from 3rd party releases although its mostly via compilations, titles that are too big to fit on a Switch cartridge or because publishers are too cheap to use big enough carts and just resort to using a smaller card that cheaper to produce and forcing a partial download. Megaman Ultimate Collection, Resident Evil Triple Pack AND the Origins Collection, Spyro Reignited, Starlink Battle for Atlas, Grand theft Auto Trilogy, Wolfenstein II, Batman Arkham Trilogy and Bioshock the Collection are just a few examples of incomplete titles the Switch has gotten. Don't get me started on code-in-a-box titles either, those are a dime a dozen on the Switch. Luckily a good number of these have better physical on PlayStation or Xbox so it's not totally hopeless here unless you just HAVE to play these games on a train or sitting on the toilet.
The AAA 3rd party scene for ALL modern consoles as far as EA, Ubisoft, Activision and Bethesda have had problems with physical media for YEARS, going as far back as last generation which I believe is the source of the finger pointing most people do when they talk about "useless" physical releases. Call of Duty has not had a single complete or fully functional physical since CoD WWII released, pretty much all physical sports titles like Madden, Fifa and NBA 2K have discs that are only useful as drink coasters and even great single player titles like Hogwarts Legacy, Avatar Frontiers of Pandora, Star Wars Jedi Survivor, Mortal Kombat 11 + 1 and Hitman III are all completely unplayable from the disc alone. Many of these franchises are beloved so it does raise a lot of red flags. Single player games in particular have no excuse to be this way. ITs just pure laziness and unwillingness to optimize these games and wanting to push them out the door as quickly as possible.
Even with all the games I listed above, it's still a relatively small number compared to everything else that has come out and is certainly not a definitive list. I have over 500 physical PS4 titles, roughly 120ish Switch carts and close to 200 Xbox One/Series X discs with all those numbers growing over time and not a single title amongst those is unable to be played offline or requires a download to become playable. To further that point, there are still many titles out there that I don't have or don't want that are perfectly playable on their own. You just have to do a bit of research and/or apply some common sense before buying them. Doesitplay is a great website resource to do this although it may not always have the title or tested console you want to look at since it is always adding new titles to it tested list. I look at this way: if its playable from an Xbox disc which only maxes at 50GB per disc, then it SHOULD be fine on the PS4 or PS5 which pushes 50GB and 100GB respectively. If it's NOT playable on a PS4 or PS5 disc, then there's a high probability that the Xbox version might also be unplayable. Some like Cyberpunk 2077 Ultimate Edition and Metro Exodus Complete Edition defy this rule of thumb though which, unlike the PS5 versions, has all data including the DLC packed onto any discs inside whereas the PS5 version has the DLC as a download code.
Capcom did that with the MegaMan 1 through 3 collection on switch where MegaMan 1 was on the cartridge, but you had to download 2 and 3 off of the E shop you cannot tell me they couldn’t fit all 3 games on one cartridge
If they decide to "take back" my modern gaming libraries, then I'm going completely retro. End of story.
If one has to get digital, then get it half-off or better. Rental games deserve rental prices, after all...
Well isnt this the same thing that happened with music? and Cars are actually becoming like this to mercedes forces you to pay for heated seats in a subscription
Is this really true? That is wild!!
@@Ragepatty 100% true. BMW forces a sub for the advanced suspension, too.
I'm gonna be King of the Pirates 🏴☠️
out of the 200 steam games I bought... I own 30 of them. That was a Rude awakening for me.
How did you figure out which one of them were DRM free?
@@nicklemieux9816 like the other fellow said. How did u figure out which ones
128GB SD cards are 15 bucks. Companies are more than aware they can put their games on small and stable physical medium at volume for way less. It's all by design, destroying their own industry. They will have to learn the hard way...
Thank you Valve for normalizing all-digital, you will own nothing and love it, gaming.
Are you being sarcastic?
Hey man, you're not allowed to criticize valve. That gets death threats.
Thank you OP, a well made point
@@camharkness Someond had to say it.
Everyone needs to continue supporting physical media. I realized this back in the ps3 days. I bought a bunch of movies. Well after some years Sony didn’t renew the license to quite a few of my movies and I simply can’t play them. Movies I paid for. I’m buying as much physical as I can while I can. The future will be worse than digital purchase. Games will become a streaming service like Netflix.
Only buy Analog if possible. Same goes for Music and Movies. If you can’t buy it anymore, pirate.
The high seas of piracy have kept me flush with games, movies, music, why rent this stuff when you CAN actually own it. Nobody can stop me from playing any games I've pirated because I don't need to be online
By the way, you just earned a new sub. I like your discussion vids that you've posted so far, looking forward to seeing what you have planned next.
Appreciate you 💙
I sail the high seas now , haven't bought a game in years.
Last time I bought a game was saints row 2022 and it was cheap price and then I said nah hell nah no more buying games, if they are pushing out stuff like this and the stuff out now it ain't worth the money or time.
Yessir after saints row I stop completely buying games for good, if it's slop like this being released now it ain't worth it.
(Also YT stop removing my comments from your BS)
I've known about this for a long time now, but seeing u come to terms with it in real time was tough to watch, but I did.
I tried to warn people about this very thing years ago in a video. I remember Sony locking me out of a digital copy of parasite eve on my PS3. People called me crazy...
after that day, I've been full physical ever since and never looked back.
I'm really glad it's becoming mainstream knowledge. I'm pretty in tune with most things video game related, and I let this go right over my head for too long.
I warned everyone and no one listened.
hell ya brother preach, them having to say it a license is defiantly a step in the right direction
Just a small comment on the car analogy. You don’t really own your car either…..try not paying taxes on it. That could be said for your home as well. If you don’t pay your taxes, they take away everything you “own”.
Very true. You should only have to pay taxes on something once to own it. Being able to apply taxes to something indefinitely, then take it away once you cease payment is complete bullsh*t. But that's capitalism for you.
@@TheSixthSLoT The government charging you a fee every year is not capitalism thats just life. Even communist and socialists states have money and in those systems the government nickle and dimes for everything. The US use to not have hardly any taxes other than tariffs. Yet then we were the founding stock Americans rather than our current fake globo mongroid form. Either a big corp runs your life or a big government. People just say muh capitalism like it means anything.
They won't take your car just your license. Funny thing in the constitution its pretty clear only commercial vehicles require license for transporting yourself.
I've been the old man yelling at the sky about this for a decade now. Happy to see other people realizing what's going on.
This video is a perfect example of how capitalism exploits consumers until nothings left.
As long as there's no DRM on it and it's not live service, you can make your own physical media. That being said, people must always know what they're paying for. This video just proves how little of people truly acknowledge this and pay full price for digital anyway regardless of the amount of power of ownership. The only real thing I can say for the people with a huge steam library is that Valve promised us that offline downloads for the games we bought will be available once Steam shuts down, let's hope they still keep their word regardless of this license law
I wasn't aware they said that? I'm going to be backing mine up regardless. I like Gabe but can't trust corpos
@@Ragepatty Backing up games is always a good idea regardless of the situation
The only ones that I can trust for physical media is currently Nintendo and the Nintendo switch at least along with any prior gens.
@mrconroy4672 it's easy to talk about how poorly they treat their fans, but it's also easy to talk about how them staying in their own lane, etc. has always been a huge benefit to us. I think first-party nintendo releases are the most trustworthy in the industry. They don't really make bad first-party games.
@@Ragepatty Fair point to make on that. I do think they can do better overall for next gen.
Switch has DRM.
Time to going full retro and ignore modern gaming
I have a CD of GTA2 from 2000 and it still works perfectly fine without any issues.
Exactly, all games up to what ps3 or ps4 can all be accessed with 0 internet
If people take care of their stuff it'll last longer.
This would not work today, because modern games release in a completely broken state and need 6 months of patches to even launch successfully.
This is what sealed the deal for me to just play my old games.
Ubisofts famous comment, that we shou.d get comfortable not owning our games, isthe main reason i am waiting for physical copies of alan wake 2 and black myth
The download patches will render those game discs useless anyway. Even when you buy physical games, they're still digitally dependent. It's pretty rare for any AAA game to come out on disc and not be dependent on a day one patch.
I'm about to hit 30 and I've often been reminiscing about the old days. I grew up with the n64, Gamecube, ps2, and then ps3 and every console we had we owned the best games on their respective platforms physically.
I just miss those times and how great gaming was back then. Now it's not only not the same but the fact that the games you buy you don't own is so scary to me. What's even worse is that for disc based games, the proper updated game isn't even on the disc itself. 😕
@Zee140.15 Go play retro games and rediscover the magic!
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There are actually more modern physical games that are complete on disc than most people realize, it's just that they are often overshadowed by the often-broken AAA landscape which is the most deeply affected by incomplete or simply broken disc-based games. Pretty much all Microsoft 1st party disc releases, a small number of Sony exclusives, some Switch compilations and many AAA 3rd party releases from Ubisoft, EA, Bethesda and Activision have been incomplete this generation.
On the Microsoft side, Flight Simulator cannot be played or installed offline due to it needing live cloud streaming for its in-game assets, Halo Infinite only has the multiplayer component on the disc with the campaign needing to be downloaded from the web (which is a sin to us old-school Halo fans) and Forza Horizon 5 plus Starfield only has half the data on disc making the whole game unplayable until you download the rest of it. To a lesser extent, Dead Rising 3 from last gen consoles cannot be played on a Series X without a download but will play just fine by itself on any Xbox One.
As far as I know, the only Sony exclusive physicals that cannot be played or downloaded offline is Gran Turismo 7 and Concord (for anyone that actually DOES still own a copy of that abomination). However, both of these are online only titles so it should be obvious or even a moot point to single those games out. The PS4 and even the PS5 have been generally physical friendly in the exclusives department, but it is still possible for that to change sooner than later so always keep your eyes peeled. This doesn't include possible patches, but usually patches aren't always needed as much as people think. There are exceptions of course like the recently released Slave Zero X or Calisto Protocol which both have buggy and messy disc builds to the point of being nearly unplayable, but that doesn't always happen.
The Switch is plagued with physical titles that require downloads from 3rd party releases although its mostly via compilations, titles that are too big to fit on a Switch cartridge or because publishers are too cheap to use big enough carts and just resort to using a smaller card that cheaper to produce and forcing a partial download. Megaman Ultimate Collection, Resident Evil Triple Pack AND the Origins Collection, Spyro Reignited, Starlink Battle for Atlas, Grand theft Auto Trilogy, Wolfenstein II, Batman Arkham Trilogy and Bioshock the Collection are just a few examples of incomplete titles the Switch has gotten. Don't get me started on code-in-a-box titles either, those are a dime a dozen on the Switch. Luckily a good number of these have better physical on PlayStation or Xbox so it's not totally hopeless here unless you just HAVE to play these games on a train or sitting on the toilet.
The AAA 3rd party scene for ALL modern consoles as far as EA, Ubisoft, Activision and Bethesda have had problems with physical media for YEARS, going as far back as last generation which I believe is the source of the finger pointing most people do when they talk about "useless" physical releases. Call of Duty has not had a single complete or fully functional physical since CoD WWII released, pretty much all physical sports titles like Madden, Fifa and NBA 2K have discs that are only useful as drink coasters and even great single player titles like Hogwarts Legacy, Avatar Frontiers of Pandora, Star Wars Jedi Survivor, Mortal Kombat 11 + 1 and Hitman III are all completely unplayable from the disc alone. Many of these franchises are beloved so it does raise a lot of red flags. Single player games in particular have no excuse to be this way. ITs just pure laziness and unwillingness to optimize these games and wanting to push them out the door as quickly as possible.
Even with all the games I listed above, it's still a relatively small number compared to everything else that has come out and is certainly not a definitive list. I have over 500 physical PS4 titles, roughly 120ish Switch carts and close to 200 Xbox One/Series X discs with all those numbers growing over time and not a single title amongst those is unable to be played offline or requires a download to become playable. To further that point, there are still many titles out there that I don't have or don't want that are perfectly playable on their own. You just have to do a bit of research and/or apply some common sense before buying them. Doesitplay is a great website resource to do this although it may not always have the title or tested console you want to look at since it is always adding new titles to it tested list. I look at this way: if its playable from an Xbox disc which only maxes at 50GB per disc, then it SHOULD be fine on the PS4 or PS5 which pushes 50GB and 100GB respectively. If it's NOT playable on a PS4 or PS5 disc, then there's a high probability that the Xbox version might also be unplayable. Some like Cyberpunk 2077 Ultimate Edition and Metro Exodus Complete Edition defy this rule of thumb though which, unlike the PS5 versions, has all data including the DLC packed onto any discs inside whereas the PS5 version has the DLC as a download code.
Man, this was really well written and concise. Enjoyable to read and easy to follow. I like your talking points, You should be making videos too, I think. Well said pal 👊
@@Ragepatty Thanks, and sorry for the long post. I'm huge into physical collecting so I always want to try and spread the word of how most modern physicals are still fine on their own but also try to warn others of physicals that are gimped. I've actually thought of posting vids for some time, I just don't have any recording equipment and I'd want to make sure I'm doing it the right way and high quality. Sort of my inner perfectionist fighting me lol. Still, with gaming turning into something... less than desirable these days to put it lightly, I'm strongly considering doing videos to point out great games and do talking points like this. Your reply may end up being a good push to do that. Thanks. :)
Try GOG
Polaks for the win lol
Remember when the digital copy used to be cheaper too? Only $49.99 instead of $59.99. Now whether physical or digital, they cost the same.
There is no need for digital to cost as much or in some cases even more than physical. It's wild.
I’m fed up with the subscription/own nothing model. If I can’t physically own a copy of the media or I need to have an internet connection to run the disk, then aye aye matey, I’m off to sail the 7 seas and the software will be loaded with crack
When it comes to indie games I have no choice but to buy them digitally, but for Triple or Double A games I go for physical copy.
There's plenty of indie developers who would like to have physical releases for games but some of them simply don't have the funds to do so.
These game companies are not being transparent with us. There are litteral nonstop layoffs from AAA companies the last year. A lot of people are colelcting and still playing games. But theyre going to ps3/ 360 and earlier because i think people are getting fed up with it. I think they are insulting their customers by this point
the day physical copies are over it , I might be done with games. Digital games at full price is absurd and criminal, now if its on sale for less then 20$CDN no problem but never will I pay 100$ for a digital game. Going forward emulation will be the way
It's not just about owning a physical copy. It's about its ability to run with no internet connection, being safe from "updates", and having a system to run it on. Then the autonomous copy could be stored on any convenient media to be safe.
because of that reason I am leading to pirating the games instead of buying them, also I love how people say that "this is a reason why physical copies are better" when you can't even buy physical copy of the game they take down
This is exactly why I still own my physical disks. as long as you take care of it it last far longer than what’s been intended
Since I have the Series X I only use the gamepass and I also bought some games but never physical games. I realized how much playing is losing its charm. I download a game and if I don’t like it after 5 minutes, I download another one, all without even getting up from my couch... The saddest thing is that when I go to big supermarkets, the Xbox shelf is very small and sometimes even completely empty (just a few controllers...).
When you see the turn of the video game world, I thought it was not too late, this week I started building a library of video games again, it does not matter if it is a game that dates back 5 years or more, as long as I have a good time. And when I have no more games to play, I go to my local video game store to buy some games. It’s only been a short week since I changed my way of «consuming» video games but it feels good and it makes me think a lot about how I played 10 or 15 years ago. So yes, it’s not as fast as digital games and it’s not always next-gen games but I recommend it to all, it’s worth it 😉
@akselleska15 excellent comment. Good logic. Great attitude. I like this alot 🫡💙
And then there're the disks that only have a popup window installed on them, that connect you to an online server to download the game. Or it's a piece of carton with a link on it.
The decline of video games as a resilient, artistic medium feels like a multi-layered "death," driven by several factors:
1. Death of the Art Form: Many modern games prioritize profit over creative integrity, sidelining the artistic vision that once defined the industry. This shift has led to more formulaic, risk-averse titles that lack the depth and originality of earlier eras.
2. Death of Physical Media: Physical copies of games are rarely complete today. Even when you buy a disc or cartridge, crucial parts of the game (like patches or entire segments) often require online downloads, making physical media feel like a placeholder rather than a fully owned product.
3. Loss of Digital Ownership: Many digital storefronts impose restrictive DRM (Digital Rights Management) systems, which severely limit what you can do with your purchases. You might lose access to a game if the platform decides to remove it, effectively erasing your ownership.
4. End of Standalone Gaming Systems: The gaming industry is shifting towards cloud-based streaming services, where gamers access titles through streaming rather than traditional consoles or PC downloads. In this future, you’re not buying hardware or software but a temporary subscription, leaving control firmly in the hands of service providers.
5. Disappearance of Old Games and Media Decay: Physical media degrades over time, and older games are at risk of vanishing. Without preservation, titles from previous decades may be lost permanently due to deteriorating discs and tapes.
6. Anti-Cheat Software and Server Shutdowns: Online DRM checks and anti-cheat software add further hurdles, while server shutdowns often mean that many games eventually become unplayable, especially those reliant on online elements.
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Potential Solutions
One potential way to preserve games is by creating multiple backup formats, such as storing games on multi-layer Blu-rays or dedicated SSDs. Circumventing DRM checks, though technically challenging and legally questionable, is another consideration for personal backups. Although some applications can bypass online checks for platforms like Steam, their quality varies, and most still don’t offer seamless offline experiences.
For now, physical media and digital distribution sites like Good Old Games (GOG) offer the best hopes for reliable access. But true change may require global collective action. Until then, finding workarounds like private servers, community-supported mods, or even backups through hacks or cracks might be necessary to keep these games alive.
In the end, the best way forward might be a mix of advocacy for better consumer rights, community preservation efforts, and technological solutions. Without some degree of protest and collective effort, gaming’s future might be more controlled and constrained, rather than free and accessible.
When it comes to accessing both physical and digital media, piracy-though legally and ethically complex-often provides a smoother, more complete user experience. Pirated versions frequently bypass DRM, granting users more freedom and offline access, and often come without the intrusive anti-cheat and licensing checks that can disrupt gameplay. Remarkably, this applies not just to digital media but even to physical goods; pirated versions or unauthorized modifications can improve performance, access, or functionality, allowing users to enjoy a "full" product experience, one that is sometimes superior to what paying customers receive.
This paradox reflects a key frustration in media ownership today: even legitimate purchases often come with limitations that do not affect pirated versions. For instance, while physical game copies are increasingly missing content that must be downloaded, pirated editions are often complete, delivering a cohesive and reliable experience without dependency on online access.
@marcus_cole_2 This is on par with my best writing and would take me a decent amount of time. If you did this yourself without outside help from robots, then I applaud you. This is very well done. It's why I started going off script on all my videos. Everything that's written nowadays sounds really good. It is always questioned if it's authentic. Which is annoying because I really enjoy the art of script writing even though I don't use them a lot.
Great comment, pal.
@@Ragepatty As a dyslexic thank you very much yes my Words and thought I still have the original draft
@marcus_cole_2 do you do other writing? You should be making youtube videos, pal. This is really well said!!
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Their wet dream is that all games switch to cloud so you don't even have the file on your local machine. They want total control of it.